57e43c No.14898003
After playing the Mario Tennis Aces demo, it's clear the paid online isn't gonna be worth it. It doesn't work right at all with massive input lag, dropped connections despite the router being right next to my Switch, and the problems that result from peer to peer connections.
At this point, the only reason they're even doing this service is greed. The service doesn't work at all and has been delayed three times. Key features like voice chat and parties are not built into the console firmware, but are in a phone app that doesn't even work. The NES library is not good enough to warrant a subscription, and there's no word if other classic libraries like SNES or N64 will be in it.
But I think what makes the service even more pointless, is the fact only a handful of games require the subscription. Splatoon, ARMS, Smash 5, and Mario Tennis Aces. That's it. Pokemon doesn't need one, and all the other third parties don't need one. Then what's the point? There's no point in paying $20 a year just to play one game's multiplayer, when people will just go play something else instead.
Of course, knowing Nintendo, they're never gonna listen.
4ffcca No.14898143
>>14898003
>other third parties won't need a subscription
Do we have concrete proof of this?
4f1fa7 No.14898203
>paying for online
>Ever
Is there ever any excuse?
57e43c No.14898266
>>14898143
In the QnA https://www.nintendo.com/switch/online-service/faq/
>"Nintendo Switch games such as Splatoon™ 2, ARMS™, Mario Kart™ 8 Deluxe, Mario Tennis™ Aces, and Sushi Striker™: The Way of Sushido, will require a Nintendo Switch Online membership, but other games will vary."
When very few games require a sub, is it even worth it when those online games either A. Suck, or B. Don't work? Even the new normalfag Pokemon will require an online sub, even though it takes out a lot of online features like the GTS, Wonder Trade, and ranked mode.
bdf627 No.14898282
While I get the sentiment isn't it a bit disingenuous to compare performance during a network stress test where it's deliberately designed to flood the network with as much traffic as possible to normal operating function?
9e302e No.14898318
>>14898282
I'd say that it's the opposite. Most likely, launch week will be more stressful on the network than some shit demo with five characters.
>>14898266
Paid online was never worth it, on any system.
f46e02 No.14898330
>>14898282
i would agree but they know their sales statistics and should be able to gauge how many people will buy the product and already have that system in place. Instead what most companies do is allocate the least amount of space on their servers and gradually grow it over time because they think it is cheaper.
t. ex-IT guy for large software companies
a3f0fe No.14898476
It's /domg/ all over again
90e8aa No.14898478
>>14898464
Is Mark, dare I say, /ourguy/?
b56e76 No.14898484
>>14898266
Yeah, I agree with you. Unless they do something unique like allow friends to play in local modes then they should 100% drop paid online. It's just not worth it in the grand scheme of things, and people will likely pay for the service for VC and Cloud Saves alone.
4ffcca No.14898486
>>14898266
That's hardly what I'd consider concrete proof. I'm just not convinced Nintendo is so oblivious as to not mandate all online games on their platform require a subscription.
b56e76 No.14898489
>>14898476
>>14898478
Just stop fucking posting about it or make a new thread, holy shit.
b56e76 No.14898536
>>14898330
Well you would expect it from a large company but this is Nintendo we're talking about. The same company that managed to get a digital exclusive game leaked because they were too lazy to implement a time lock. That's just pure incompetence.
92c7f4 No.14898563
>free online
>optional subscription fee to play everything on the virtual console
They'd make bucketloads. People would call it the Netflix of video games.
b56e76 No.14898577
>>14898563
Honestly they should just make online multiplayer free. Keep it simple.
2dccc5 No.14898579
>>14898563
>steaming games
Will never happen
b56e76 No.14898588
>>14898579
Could work under 5G, cloud tech is greatly improving.
92c7f4 No.14898601
>>14898579
Just have a free download.
2dccc5 No.14898625
>>14898588
Even then fighting games would never happen. It's just another form of DRM in the end anyway.
b56e76 No.14898649
>>14898625
I was testing FighterZ with it, and it actually ran pretty smooth. Obviously it shouldn't be the main distribution platform, but rather an optional service.
a79491 No.14898660
Is this a new thread or did baitslut get banned?
Paid online is conflicting. On one hand if the money is used right to invest in security and hopefully deticated servers instead of peer2peer then I can see it work out. On the other hand paid online just sucks to exist in the first place. If the Switch Online App was actually useful as a general communications system with provate messaging, general text and voice lobbies instead of only a voice chat lobby only when you're only connected to the right game with pnly the right group, then the app could have been a useful alternative with Nintendo game exclusive features.
Instead, you have to integrate your app with disagreement, Facebook, and Twitter to even invite friends on the app. Which what is the point of the app if you're still going to have to share your FCs via private messages in a third party service anyway? You may as well use a third party service and ignore everyone that sends you friend requests through Switch games.
It's like Nintendo discourages you from making friends through the Nintendo Switch. So you may as well get your usual circle jerk from normalfag social media and stick with them.
4b577d No.14898672
How can Nintendo consistently fuck up their online service? It shouldn't be difficult to make, especially since they have two competitors to look at, yet they keep trying to go at it in extremely convoluted ways.
2dccc5 No.14898677
>>14898649
When kikes figure out that you can't pirate streamed games and figure out a way to make it manageable for normal fags to put up with the input delay they won't make it an optional service.
8132f8 No.14898681
There's no excuse for this paid online shit.
260709 No.14898686
>>14898672
Nintendo is run by greedy old Nippon business men that are out of touch, but know fans will still eat whatever they shit out.
e7138f No.14898688
>>14898635
It costs way too much in my country to worry/think about buying it.
92c7f4 No.14898689
>>14898686
Unless it's the Wii U.
32c648 No.14898702
>paying for a game
>then have to pay for a online fee to play said game you paid for
260709 No.14898707
>>14898689
That was such a colossal fuck up
>name the system after the wii
>don't market it correctly
>people think it's a add-on and ignore it
9e302e No.14898734
>>14898702
Reminder:
NEVER PAY FOR A GAME WITH AN ONLINE COMPONENT
That money will simply go to waste whenever the service goes down
Stop supporting these shitty practices, and kill yourselves. Thank you.
b56e76 No.14898771
>>14898702
Not to mention you need a fucking phone app for basic voice chat, you can't even connect a wireless headset. It's very unintuitive for no reason.
bfb88a No.14898774
>>14898660
>Which what is the point of the app if you're still going to have to share your FCs via private messages in a third party service anyway?
I think the point is that Nintendo has no fucking idea what it is doing.
60d9e6 No.14898781
The service works well, but only in Japan.
b56e76 No.14898786
>>14898781
The game itself is probably fine, ARMs and Splatoon also had shit netcode during the demos
add937 No.14898792
>>14898660
Just check the board log, Mark's sperging out again.
Paid online is bad if you have to pay for games that use it, if either online multiplayer or the game is free, then it's ok to charge for the other, since you pay once either way, but paid online is jewing you out of your money twice.
Social application looks like rubbish, though. What the fuck does it do if it needs other services to actually do anything?
>>14898734
It depends, if devs say nothing about support then you're gambling (and can only blame yourself for your stupidity) and if they do say "online until X date", then you're buying support for that long. If you actually buy it too late then it's your fault for trusting companies to do more than the base line.
>>14898771
wew lad
bfb88a No.14898821
>>14898792
>if either online multiplayer or the game is free, then it's ok to charge for the other
Paying for online multiplayer is never okay since you already pay for internet access.
b56e76 No.14898838
>>14898821
It's just dumb as well, like I get paying for extras. But forcing people to do it for more gameplay is just unethical.
a79491 No.14898879
>>14898792
It I was in charge of the Switch Online App for mobile then I would make it a universal communications platform between all games, online and offline. However as is other services are free and do all of these things better; minus Splatoon2's online gear store which is the only reason to own the app.
Even single player offline games if the app lets you talk to friends via PMs or a text-only group chat then that would make the Switch Online App 200% better than what it currently is now. But Nintendo I guess needs to make moderating the service easy. So what's a better way than making it worthless?
Either allow users to self-moderate their own chat lobbies and trust them to report CoC violators in both text and voice or remove voice chat from the app completely so users can use a third party service, LIKE THEY FUCKING HAVE TO, to find friends in the first place.
54e17d No.14898920
>>14898786
>ARMs and Splatoon also had shit netcode during the demos
Splatoon 2 has shit netcode now. Playing league or splatfest is a nightmare in that game due to constant drops and lag issues. The meta of the game is affected by this.
65387d No.14898924
>>14898850
>Not even dubs
Why would you screencap this?
60984d No.14898928
>>14898660
>Instead, you have to integrate your app with disagreement, Facebook, and Twitter to even invite friends on the app
Thankfully, that's not true; when you generate an invitation, your device just auto-prompts for a 'text input' app to paste a unique URL into.
As shitty as the app is, at least it doesn't 'link up' with even shittier third-party services (yet).
751e0d No.14898989
>>14898203
No. You already pay for the internet and if the game is p2p the company that made the game is doing jackshit except supporting matchmaking or a server list which takes very little bandwidth.
Only place where is makes any sense whatsoever is for an MMO with thousands of players playing on a dedicated server all at the same time.
a79491 No.14899056
>>14898928
Which still sucks because what's the point if you don't get notified through the app itself? Thanks for the correction. I don't have friends with the app to test this on. I'm not giving away social media here.
423361 No.14899062
>>14899056
It's a terrible work around to an easy solution.
a79491 No.14899141
>>14899062
Whoever designed the app is lazy. Otherwise it would be an easy solution to have the app send notifications to your friend's Switch, if not a notification on their phone if they're registered. Someone needs to take apart the app and figure out how exactly it's coded. Because if it's built the way I think it is then there's no saving the app without having to rebuild it from the ground up.
And yes bossman, the NSOA is apart of Paid Online discussion because you can't use the app without a paid subscription account.
@ca4606
Stay buttmad shill. I'm eating this delicious (you) right now. Mmm…
423361 No.14899163
>>14899141
Yeah, it really is a terrible solution. You can't even listen to game audio while on voice chat. It's so stupid.
3985f6 No.14899197
>have to pay to play online
>20bux yearly
>pay 20bux to use your own internet
>pay 20bux for "free" shit you rent
>pay 20bux for p2p networking
>pay to play all your games online
<pay $15 per month for just one game
<crickets
36f81c No.14899223
>>14899166
Kill yourself you fucking shill
c70850 No.14899268
>>14899197
People are pissed because Nintendo's online games usually have shit netcode and are some of the worst games to play online. I put up with their bullshit because it's free. If I have to pay, I start to wonder if it's worth it.
423361 No.14899303
>>14899268
It's not worth it, not for online play alone anyway.
57e43c No.14899305
>>14899197
Anon, we know WoW is shit. Only the ActBlizz cucks defend it now, and even then there's not many outside of the WoW losers who still defend the WoW subs.
The thread though is talking about how shit the Nintendo online service is, and the fact they expect people to pay for it when it doesn't work, and requires so many fucking hoops just for basic features like REPORTING CHEATERS!
ca4606 No.14899314
>>14899223
not a shill you're just mad you can't afford internet. I don't blame you, it must be hard being a loser. maybe if you put a bit more effort in your life you could be a little less angry?
36f81c No.14899334
>>14899314
2/10
Being a corporate cocksucker is pathetic
ca4606 No.14899408
>>14899334
so you don't want to take responsability for your own life? Fair enough sweetheart, but understand we'll always be laughing at you =)
36f81c No.14899419
>>14899408
You make no sense whatsoever, kill yourself shitskin.
3985f6 No.14899426
>>14899305
>>14899268
I'm just putting up some food for thought. I think online play is shit, free or not, just something to think about is all.
ca4606 No.14899446
>>14899419
you don't have to be rude. Being rude never got anyone anywhere in society. I guess that's just the perils of toxic masculinity. Look, I hate to tell you but you have bigger problems than someone charging money to make their own service better so you can't leach off them anymore… Everyone will be doing this soon sweetie, even steam. You can't escape it, just accept change. All you have to do is get a job honey.
a79491 No.14899449
>>14899163
I tried the Hori splitter with Splatoon2 via Mumble. Splitter is the shitter. The quality of the splitter itself is pretty good. The fact you have to use a splitter to listen to Switch audio AND voice chat is full retard. Plus in dock mode you either need an extension cable for splitter OR forget about using docked mode completely.
And I found out quickly I have cats who knocked over my Switch while it was docked. Screen protector did it's job but had to buy another one. And one of my joycon's control sticks broke off that wasn't covered under warranty. So I had to send that off for repairs which it'd be cheaper to get a new joycon new.
Yes, I know. All mistakes on my end I could've avoided by not buying a Switch according to shills. Or not having cats. Or never playing docked, etc. The fact is there is no reason for voice chat not to be built into the Switch itself. If a phone app has to exist then it should be a companion app used when you can't use the Switch online but you can use your phone to check on things. Why is there no messaging system in the Friend's list at least?
These are legitimate services that I ask for bare minimum if I'm required to pay for online services.
260709 No.14899466
>>14899197
>content droughts constantly
>content that does come out is shit
>being dumbed down for consoles
Blizzard fans are retarded
423361 No.14899468
>>14899314
It's still unethical as fuck
38347d No.14899494
>>14898266
>Even the new normalfag Pokemon will require an online sub, even though it takes out a lot of online features like the GTS, Wonder Trade, and ranked mode.
It was confirmed that Let's Go is actually not using the paid online service, actually. Don't know how it will effect the actual Gen 8 games in 2019. This is good for me since the only game I want to play with online integration is Splatoon 2 and theoretically Pokemon, and I can just not play Splatoon 2 I guess. Although now I'm curios about certain things. Like, would Luigi's Balloon World of all things require it? And how do you get the subscription, through a CDN? I know the 3DS and Wii U had some problems there, and the Switch sort of fixes it, but dumber shit has happened.
ca4606 No.14899673
>>14899468
unethical how? a company charges so they can continue providing infrastructure? Last time I checked everything costs money and you should be grateful it's been provided for free so far you wretch
bdf627 No.14899716
>>14898579
>Streaming games
>Digital Software rentals have been a thing since the PS3
Shoo Shoo faggot kun
38347d No.14899726
>>14899673
While you're technically correct, Nintendo is especially terrible with online infrastructure. While they use cheap peer 2 peer like pretty much every other console, people complain about how shit it is far more than anyone else, despite the fact that it has been free up to this point. If Nintendo's online service suddenly becomes really good a couple years after this, I'll agree that the investment is worth it. However, I believe Nintendo is incompetent and won't do anything good with it, this is not their strong suit.
e41ebf No.14899741
Could we use our h8chan powers to get Nintendo's online boycotted when they start charging for it? Surely even places like reddit must have noticed how poorly Mario Tennis has been running?
2dccc5 No.14899745
>>14899716
>Digital Software rentals have been a thing since the PS3
I mean never feasibly faggot.
bdf627 No.14899775
>>14899745
My implication is that you are a faggot for the suggestion.
38347d No.14899784
>>14899741
Here's a spooky truth for you. Boycotts don't work anymore because of the way the internet is stratified. We're all in our little ponds, and very few of our truths leak out into the main stream. You might be able to get reddit in on it, that's a few thousand people alright. How many units has the Switch sold? The truth of the matter is that Switch online will pass or fail based on what games require it and how retarded the average user is. Splatoon 2 and MK8 are pretty much the only worthwhile things at the moment, and with Let's Go confirmed to use online but not the service all that's left is Smash this year. It all comes down to Smash, and I've given up on that franchise because I never really liked it in the first place and just played them out of habit. Melee-fags might pay for it, but they're a minority and would only pay for it if Smash is more like Melee. Normalfags might pay for it for Smash, but reminder that paid online comes out in September and Smash will likely hit in November. I'm seeing a bad first few months for them, then it varies depending on Smash.
2dccc5 No.14899811
>>14899775
Suggestion of what? That it's fucking garbage?
e41ebf No.14899816
>>14899784
There are probably a lot of kids playing online as well, whose parents would not be willing to start paying a monthly fee all of the sudden. That's just wishful thinking though.
26614e No.14899851
>>14899673
>apologist at maximum power
nigger, online games cost next to nothing to maintain. there are figures on this easily researchable through google as this was almost immediately proven to be the case when EA stated that online costs a great deal to maintain when asked why their digital games are just as expensive as physical games despite having next to zero overhead to distribute
i am a career nintoddler and have been since i got my first NES in 1988 but even i can't defend this garbage. if it wasn't for microsoft charging for xbox live and sony eventually realizing that the goyim will pay for anything it would still be free and frankly it should, especially in nintendo's case because a) the service so fas has proven to suck mega-ass and b) they aren't even offering the bare minimum of services that the other guys are vis a vis reliable voice chat, parties etc. if they offered a decent service for the money it would be no big deal but it doesn't matter how little they charge compared to the other kikes, at this level it should be free
38347d No.14899864
>>14899816
I agree on the kids part, but remember that parents who have kids today are fucking retarded and terrible and let their children do anything. If they have a Switch, they'll pay the monthly fee.
>>14899851
Too be fair I think the app was Nintendo's attempt at a good online service. The problem is they're fucking retarded and the app is terrible. You'd think they'd have invested more money in making a good online infrastructure, but the fact that they delayed paid online for like a year and the fact it's so cheap compared to everyone else tells me this is more standard Nintendo incompetence rather than greediness.
4f6251 No.14899866
>>14898003
Yet they won't get rid of hackers, Wii U confirmed to have better online services.
bdf627 No.14899875
>>14899811
For suggesting it as a possibility. Quality notwithstanding.
2dccc5 No.14899886
>>14899875
Never did. You just jumped the gun. Chill nigger.
05dce3 No.14899959
>>14898003
>At this point, the only reason they're even doing this service is greed.
Like there was ever any doubt of that?
At what point would you have gone "Hmm you know, when nintendo starts charging people for something that used to be free, they probably have good intentions and the consumers best interest in mind."?
>But I think what makes the service even more pointless, is the fact only a handful of games require the subscription.
This really sounds like you want nintendo to lock more game's online feature behind a paywall to "justify" the "service"
.
a79491 No.14900178
>>14899864
If the online app was a companion app to check on features that should have been built into the Switch like I said here >>14899449 when Switch can't go online then the app would have been ideal. Instead we're using mumble and social media to check on friends if they want to play Switch instead of seeing them on the app PLAYING THE FUCKING SWITCH.
The time to ask people if they want to group online would be when everyone is online then. Making appointments in advance to play video games usually doesn't fucking work out half the time. Game appointments are for MMO players since the beginning of the game that played together forever. Not Splatoon. Switch is too drop in drop out for that kind of gamer detication despite the dickhead commercials because of it's portability.
ab20b9 No.14900327
>>14898003
Why did you even buy a Switch in the first place?
Anyway of course it's shit, it only exists because of that race to the bottom shit, if they've got that edge why don't we have that edge, customers are clearly willing to pay it's like half of all PS4 owners have an active subscription, although that was at 60 mil units.
>>14898660
I'd guess from the massive boom of online services and their low point of sustainability that online services are quite cheap to maintain, and considering that Switch online is peer to peer Nintendo really are just following suit and pinching from the pot of free gold.
>>14899673
Many companies provide free hosting for large files and streaming services for free, it is ethical in the sense that technically they are providing a service but it is unethical because this money is not going towards providing a service of substantially higher quality that falls in line with the pricing.
38347d No.14900338
>>14900327
>Why did you even buy a Switch in the first place?
I dunno about him but I'd like free vidya in a reasonable time and I like portable devices. If you're willing to wait and just play everything on PC, the Switch should emulate pretty well by the end of it's lifespan and you'll have an entire backlog of all the good games for it.
>it is unethical because this money is not going towards providing a service of substantially higher quality that falls in line with the pricing.
We're assuming that. For all we know Nintendo could take the money and make their service less shit. Or they could have set it up in such a retarded way that they need the money to operate it. Neither of these are probably true, but if either was I could guess the latter.
ab20b9 No.14900359
>>14900338
>but I'd like free vidya in a reasonable time and I like portable devices
Isn't the Switch crackable regardless of firmware thanks to certain exploits anyway, so you'd be able to play the Switch's limited library in a few years time for less money. I don't think that the Switch will be worth buying anyway, there aren't any publishers that seem to be interested in supporting it with much more than ports, Nintendo included.
>For all we know Nintendo could take the money and make their service less shit
I'm not giving them the benefit of the doubt here, this seems extremely unlikely
38347d No.14900386
>>14900359
The problem with that is that the hardware exploit is going to be fixed soon, and the new models will flood the market while the old ones become more expensive. Basically I want to cover my bases now because I know there's a few games I want for it. Without the Vita on the way out, the Switch is really the only thing for smaller Japanese developers too, even though Nintendo is notoriously bad with third parties. It's hard to ignore the Switch's install base either, meaning there should be some games coming in. And like I said, Nintendo is more likely to be completely retarded than actually fix anything.
57e43c No.14900396
>>14900327
>Why did you even buy a Switch in the first place?
Well, I am a Splatoon fan. Plus, unlike the PS4, Switch actually has games.
e98d5b No.14900401
>>14900396
>Plus, unlike the PS4, Switch actually has games.
52be2a No.14900412
>>14900396
All what, 1.5 of them? PS4 has a game too.
38347d No.14900418
>>14900401
Well, he considers Splatoon 2 good, and Xenoblade 2 looks good from what I've seen, and there's Wii U ports I don't know if I'm mad there's not a port of Wonderful 101 so that's better than Bloodborne and Vita ports. There are some really good Vita ports though, the Switch has some catching up to do.
e584e6 No.14900423
>>14900396
>Well, I am a Spitoon fan
opinion disregarded
532a86 No.14900435
Im really enjoying my switch and I dont mind paying a little bit for online honestly. Having a good time with it and looking forward to all the new stuff coming.
952465 No.14900438
>>14898003
The only reason for any service IS greed. Never pay to have fun. Get it for free.
Never waste money on paid online under any circumstance
52be2a No.14900439
>>14900418
censorblade 2 is what I meant by the .5. Splatoon was obviously the 1, soon to be 0 with the whole paid online fiasco.
38347d No.14900448
>>14900439
Just curious, what do you consider a good game? You know I consider Wonderful 101 good, so you know my baseline level of quality.
ab20b9 No.14900463
>>14900386
>The problem with that is that the hardware exploit is going to be fixed soon, and the new models will flood the market while the old ones become more expensive
Oh yeah, I guess I didn't think of it that way, I still think it's a waste.
>the Switch is really the only thing for smaller Japanese developers too
Last I checked it was just some VN maker actually working on putting their games on the platform.
>It's hard to ignore the Switch's install base either
They did a pretty good job of ignoring the 3ds, as well as the Wii, I don't think it will be that hard realistically to ignore them.
>>14900396
>Well, I am a Splatoon fan. Plus, unlike the PS4, Switch actually has games.
That's nice but we both know that's flimsy reasoning, even if you are somewhat Sane and don't buy into Sony's own games the PS4 has support, whenever a developer is looking to make a game the PS4 is automatically considered, they don't even need to say a thing it's implicit, it's the defacto platform for video games, anyone proposing a Switch version of even a title that could run on Switch without being cut down would have to fight an uphill battle to get there.
Following this logic it's just obvious that the PS4 is the platform to buy this gen, and I'm not even saying that I'd endorse it as a platform, it's complete trash, it's a wannabe PC, it's first party is complete shit, but it has the games, and that's the only reason you buy a console.
>>14900438
Not entirely, something like Netflix in spite of it's sever mismanagement is a good way to distribute films to consumers with no interest in ownership, and should cost money, but the Switch's online service is gree.
d30d40 No.14900469
>implement paid online that only puts a paywall on everything you've been enjoying for free so far
>no game in their library is dedicated servers, all P2P
>no proper voice chat or message system
>prohibitively difficult to play with your friends over the internet, sometimes outright impossible
>online store doesn't even have ratings or an interesting display format, still looks like a beta placeholder
>exactly two games in the library are actually worth playing online, one is a remake of a game on a previous gen where paid online won't be implemented
>new Pokemon won't require paid online to battle or trade
>their justification of the cost is the "free" roms of NES games that literally anyone on earth who owns a smartphone can just play on their phone for actual free
I've honestly never seen anything so completely worthless. Fidget spinners are a better use of your money than Nintendo Online.
e94e74 No.14900473
>>14900437
Hello, guy, (You) seem to be lost.
You containment thread is over here, >>14806888
If that fails, here also works >>>/reddit/
ec043b No.14900479
Get out those paperclips, boys
38347d No.14900488
>>14900479
It's a real shame the most reliable way to get a 3.0 device (in other words, one where you don't need paperclips) is the Splatoon 2 bundle. Mario Odyssey has a few but it's unreliable, and after that it's a crapshoot of serial codes. It'll be a pain to find one at this point but it can't hurt to look, and if you don't find it at least it will only be mildly inconvenient.
3bb913 No.14900582
>>14898203
>Is there ever any excuse?
Aside from the usual excuses of "b-b-but dedicated serves though" which i've heard someone use for OG xbox live, but doesn't work here, expect faggots to use the "free NES games" excuse
ab20b9 No.14900610
>>14900582
I'd subscribe if they gave us a fixed nes game every month, and online was free. By fixed I mean a partial remaster that fixes issues caused primarily by hardware limitations as well as adding native online functionality, think Shovel Knight with its improved colour palette, widescreen support and lack of visual bugs, but such a thing will never happen.
ac7bf1 No.14900614
>>14900582
>dedicated servers
splatoon 2 and MK8 are p2p though
ec043b No.14900616
>>14900614
That's because the paid online isn't here yet :^)
952465 No.14900627
>>14900463
Netflix is owned by George Soros and used exactly to spread the notion of "you won nothing and everything must be a service" as well as his marxist propaganda disguised as series.
Way to out yourself as a shill for services.
All services are done by greed and their providers must never receive any money at all.
ab20b9 No.14900632
>>14900627
>All services are done by greed and their providers must never receive any money at all.
38347d No.14900634
>>14900632
He's not wrong, that's the great thing about capitalism, you can choose not to buy anything. That's what I try to do. Need to work on eating food out of the garbage more often though.
cd0e9b No.14900636
>>14898734
Rule number 1: Never pay for a game with Online component. The money go to waste when service goes down.
Rule number 2: Never pay for a game without Online component. Because you can't pirate multiplayer, but singleplayer doesn't lack content if you pirate.
Basically by combining those two rules we can safely say there's no point in buying video games.
d30d40 No.14900644
>>14900636
>"never buy any video games" - person on a video game enthusiast board
>then complain that modern video games are shit that cater to normalfags when normalfags are the only ones giving devs money
ec043b No.14900647
>>14900627
The same goes for goods as well since everyone who wants money is a certified Kike. I knock over elderly women for their groceries every week or so.
f31633 No.14900649
>>14900644
>I’ll just be willfully disingenuous
>no one will notice
>>>/reddit/
ab20b9 No.14900658
>>14900634
It's the response I actually expected and no it's retarded, Netflix never claims you own the titles on its service, it bills itself as an on demand rental service offering you limited access to these titles at a price far below purchasing them, and it doesn't try and hide this from you tricking subscribers into thinking that they have complete ownership of a product like steam where entire games and parts of games that you purchased can be revoked at any point. Soros doesn't even own Netflix he's not a majority owner or the largest investor.
>all services are done by greed
This statement itself is patently retarded to the point where I'm pretty sure I replited to bait and now regret replying, but ultimately this can be considered for every service, why hire a house maid when you can marry, should we oust the house maid jew next?
>>14900647
That's it I'm converting to your line of thinking.
b586b8 No.14900673
>>14898686
They aren't out of touch, because they know, that people will still pay for every shit.
3bb913 No.14900708
>Literal niggers are in the thread
That's it, i'm out.
24de31 No.14900716
Has anyone tried the NES netplay yet? I'm interested if it's any good.
d0e721 No.14900814
>>14899466
>World of Warcraft
>on consoles
Did I miss something?
4f6251 No.14901115
And Fortnite will probably be ported for the Switch, let's support the inferior gooks with their Final Combat assets.
01e3ec No.14901251
>>14900178
This whole commincation thing is really that hard for nintendo? A phone app for VOIP? Kind of silly since:
>The switch has USB-C
>There is an ISM radio (Bluetooth 4.1)
←- LOOK AT THIS SHIT
ITS A FUCKING SUMMING (MIXING) AMPLIFIER
If there was any competence, Bluetooth SIG has a standard already for audio and voice communication used by thousands of ear pieces. The software stack is there in the free software nintendo is already using. There is no reason to burn batteries of yet another device. Don't get me started on the 3.5mm jack. Every cellphone that has one also supports a microphone. Guess they couldn't fix a $0.0034 >1mm x >1mm ADC on their board
However with pic related coming out, and nintendo's refusal to implement virtual console on the switch, and the mini-console cancer, I guess it to convice the suckers to go buy a SwitchPro that will have this feature standard.
323dda No.14901306
>>14898579
Streaming games is already happening in Japan.
My own country has the infrastructure to do it (4G in underground train station during rush hour) HOWEVER it needs to scale. And obviously it would only work in densely populated areas were there are enough customers near servers.
1b6307 No.14901307
>>14901306
streaming games is gay and so are you
ec7853 No.14901349
>still upset about paying $20 a year for online
Will you fuckers grow up? Go mow some lawns for that pocket change. lol
ec7853 No.14901351
>>14901251
Yeah, I agree that shit is garbage. Doesn't mean you can't just use disagreement.
66ee02 No.14902013
>Paying for the internet
<Then paying for the internet again
>Paying for a game
<Then paying for the game again
952465 No.14902107
>>14900634
Exactly.
Buy essentials only.
As for services, pay only for essentials. If by any means you must pay for something else, make sure to pay only for local services, and never pay to corporations.
>>14900644
Yes. And? Games must be made for us. And those making it are greedy pieces of shit that we must never give money to. They started this whole mess, now we are reacting.
>>14900647
As a matter of fact, yes. Everyone that wants money is either a kike or someone subverted by them. That is why it is wise to buy only essentials and pirate or steal everything else.
>>14900658
They don't hide it. And that does not change the fact that you are paying without owning what you paid for. It is a (((service))) in the same way as (((rental))): a scam.
And yes. Providers of services see a necessity (or create one) and try to profit from providing a solution. This is greed. Always was. And always will be. Want money? You are a greedy bastard. "Must pay the bills?" So do we, and that is why it is better (for us) to get what we can for free, by any means. Do you provide the service because you really like it? Then provide it for free. Otherwise, it is greed.
>>14902013
This.
The problem started on "paying for…"
a85d48 No.14902110
h
Y'know if they're charging for online I don't get why they can't pay hatena to get their own SM instead of having to outsource to shitter.
628dd9 No.14902113
M8 the online is going to be paid and it's going to be shit there's nothing you can do about it except leave the internet
5ed5ba No.14902117
>>14902107
Renting things isn't a scam in the slightest and it's odd that anyone would be stupid enough to state that it is.
e94e74 No.14902133
>>14902117
>renting things isnt a scam
What are rental properties?
What are protection payments?
What are union dues?
Here's a hint: all three of those examples are scams. See if you can deduce why.
2d047a No.14902145
>switch has mostly ports
>ps4 has mostly movies
>xbone has no gaems
What the FUCK is wrong with this generation?
8eb9ef No.14902153
>>14902145
Its just pay off from all the years of goyimfication.
eefadd No.14902163
>>14902145
Even though the point of no return was 2007, that doesn't mean that all of the good devs just up and quit that same year. Everything went wrong in 2007, but it took 10 years for literally all old talent in the industry to really give up their jobs and livelihoods and move on to better things. There's nobody left now but CalArts-tier graduates with "Game Design" degrees and radical faminists who turn every single solitary issue into genitals.
198956 No.14902181
>>14898579
>steaming your games
>not boiling them
71baa1 No.14902183
>>14902133
>What are rental properties?
They aren't yours and can be taken back at any moment.
>What are protection payments?
Glorified bribes.
>What are union dues?
Blackmail with bribery?
Did I got these correct?
>>14902145
>What the FUCK is wrong with this generation?
Everyone who was doing good games either died, left for better paid fields in I.T. or was blacklisted by industry.
1b6307 No.14902204
>>14902181
>not knowing that the term refers to publishing games on steam
2dccc5 No.14902287
>>14902204
>he's never played steamed games
What kinda faggot are you?
628dd9 No.14902557
>>14902145
Why do you think it's a scam to charge strangers for temporary possession when it is clearly and openly sold as such? Rental is stupid in most cases, that's for sure, but a scam? no.
57e43c No.14903068
>>14898003
https://nintendoeverything.com/amazon-uk-germany-taking-pre-orders-for-nintendo-switch-online-subscriptions/
>Preordering video games
>Preordering DLC
>Preordering soundtracks
>Preordering plastic toys
>Preordering cardboard
>PREORDERING ONLINE SUBSCRIPTIONS
1b6307 No.14903092
>>14903068
>PREORDERING ONLINE SUBSCRIPTIONS
the absolute state of nintoddlers
8eb9ef No.14903115
>>14903068
>>Preordering plastic toys
This actually makes sense because its a physical thing and can run out of stock.
b82b02 No.14903164
>>14903068
Why not just archive the URL?
>PREORDERING ONLINE SUBSCRIPTIONS
How long before they make this illegal too?
173e3d No.14903184
>>14898003
Those games don't require an online subscription to play offline. And I don't know about you, but when I play games like ARMS and Smash I only do it locally so nothing of value is lost by forgoing the service. And local wireless works on Switch without the service so I'll still be able to trade and battle Pokemon with friends without paying anything.
The only 'killer app' that truly requires the service is Splatoon 2. Because let's face it, you didn't buy Splatoon 2 for the single player. So Nintendo has one single first party game worth playing online for. Then there's a small handful of third party online games, but overall online for the Switch is not worth it and anyone who spends money on it is a retard.
>>14903115
That Nintendo deliberately under produces and rarely does new productions of.
6f5898 No.14903199
>>14903115
stop buying plastic shit you pathetic manchild
57e43c No.14903202
>>14903164
>”Why not just archive the URL?”
Archive is acting up for me. Dunno if anyone else is having problems.
a79491 No.14903284
>>14903068
>>14903164
If it's like amiibo then paid online subscriptions will be in limited supply. So you better pre-order those online subscriptions goy or else they'll be sold out to scalpers.
db75aa No.14903293
>>14903284
I can imagine them selling subscription cards like what Xbox Live use to do but only make limited supply to jack up the prices.
8eb9ef No.14903360
>>14903199
I don't buy anything.
b82b02 No.14903825
>>14903774
You know you can reply to multiple people with one post, right?
42495b No.14903836
>>14902145
>Comparing the Switch to the PS4
It's only been a year holy shit.
b82b02 No.14903865
>>14903836
I doubt the library for the Switch is going to improve much, so you may as well compare them. Nintendo could prove me wrong, but I seriously doubt they will.
a79491 No.14904099
>>14903865
If you live in a shithole third world country with region locked internet and can't into Japanese then sure (which may happen soon if Article 13 goes through in the EU). But anyone not expecting potato ports of third party games on primarily handheld system specs is a fucking fool.
Nintendo Switch's library is turning into a middleware and indie port machine. And yes the majority of these games will be on Steam and Playstation/xBone anyway. And like those stores we will have to rely on anonymous word of mouth to curate what is good and what is shit. And you guys pirate everything, so do what you want cuz a pirate is free.
Again, another missed opportunity of paid online is opening up comments on Nintendo eShop. But I suppose that's a moot point because Nintendo doesn't want you to talk on Nintendo software. They want you to use Orwellian social media bubbles instead.
6f5898 No.14904112
>>14903360
Well, in that case,
stop defending buying plastic shit you pathetic manchild
423361 No.14904121
>>14904099
Yeah, Nintendo just stopped giving a fuck about extra features when it came to the Switch. The OS is literally copy and paste with some extra animations to make it look fresh. It's so minimalist that my fucking 5 year old son could probably design something similar.
423361 No.14904277
>>14903865
>I doubt the library for the Switch is going to improve much
We have Shin Megami Tensei V, Metroid Prime 4, Bayonetta 3, Zoids, Octopath Traveler, Pokemon, Smash Brothers, Mario Tennis, No More Heroes and they're all probably gonna be released by the end of the year, these are major games. They're also gonna be announcing more shit next week, this summer and the fall. Not to mention the portable aspect which gives it an advantage over something like a PS4 or a PC. It will sell well and it will get more content, the issue I can see the system having is its lack of support of older engines.
0b7539 No.14904443
>>14904277
Here is what the Switch will be:
Nintendo games, obviously
Ports of old games
Indie shit
Underwhelming or even terrible ports of current games
Buy a Switch if you really like Nintendo or if for some ungodly reason HAVE to game on a portable. No 60fps games, no good online infrastructure ever. Prediction end.
62e990 No.14904462
>>14898003
>The only reason they're even doing this service is greed.
You DO realize this is Jewtendo you're talking about here, right? So, what else did you expect?
cc6c3e No.14904711
>>14904443
But there are 60fps games.
11d355 No.14904865
>>14902287
So you call them steamed games despite the fact that they're obviously grilled?
93142a No.14904924
>>14899197
The game is almost 14 years old and has been bleeding players for several years now. People have already criticized it, and it's already lost any shred of relevance it once had.
57e43c No.14904931
>>14904865
Ehh…you know th…one thing I sh…excuse me for one second.
16f4bc No.14905194
>>14904443
>No 60fps games
Splatoon 2 has a dynamic resolution to maintain 60 fps.
ce7836 No.14905212
>>14905194
isn't mario odyssey 60fps too?
57e43c No.14905248
952465 No.14905494
>>14902117
>>14902557
Any product (that is not food) that you pay for and don't own is a scam.
>>14902113
Yes, there is. Not paying, waiting for the emulation (which is already going well, running Mario Odyssey) and never giving money to Nintendo.
>>14902145
The same as everything else: jews and leftists infesting it. Kill both, and everything improves.
>>14903068
Current europeans are cucks, yes.
>>14903199
This.
41af80 No.14905805
>>14904946
Uh huh? What board?
a4cab2 No.14905824
66c215 No.14905843
>>14905825
Really? Well I'm from /sug/ and I've never heard of it.
57e43c No.14905844
>>14905825
Really. Well I'm from /co/ and I've never heard anyone use the phrase "steamed games."
5f4b4b No.14906082
>>14899673
These costs are fuck all and should be taken from the shekels Ninty gets on game sales.
90e8aa No.14906109
>>14905844
Oh no, not in /co/, no… Its /got/ thread expression!
952465 No.14906381
>>14899673
Nobody must be grateful to any corporation. They must be treated as what they are: a group slaves owned by the consumers, to provide what we want and that is it.
c515d2 No.14912177
>>14898688
hey that's an edit of a panel from this lewd pony comic
62b521 No.14913330
>>14904790
Would Nintendo really want to attract 8chan as potential customers? It seems like there'd be more demerits than benefits. I get the feeling it is more likely that we're just surrounded by a bunch of autists with an over-attachment to a brand they feel nostalgia for. It's certainly a possibility that they're actual paid shills though.
af0cb6 No.14913463
If they canceled plans for paid online MP and just made it free I might actually consider getting a current-gen console.
0cf87f No.14913552
>>14913463
Why, so you can lie in state waiting for a video game to come out for them?
af0cb6 No.14913623
>>14913552
Online multiplayer is a big thing for me. If even one game that I like can be played online (without an extra console tax), that's already 1k+ hours dumped into it. Smash and MHGU by themselves would occupy the vast majority of my playtime on a Switch if I got one.
44fa07 No.14925537
53f924 No.14926592
44fa07 No.14930822
>>14913330
Any customer is good and autistic customers are even better since they're stupidly loyal.
3e33a6 No.14930940
>>14904865
Go back to facebook
ba7e6e No.14943287
4f6251 No.14953197
>>14898003
So they confirmed Paladins for the Switch. How the fuck would that work?
>>14943287
Because Nintendo can fix their shit online right?
6e5259 No.14978828
>>14953197
>Because Nintendo can fix their shit online right?
Probably.
2d8d38 No.14981795
Nintendo just hopped on the bandwagon, but considering how it's going, they might phase it out and just make online play free, but any additional online features being paid
af0cb6 No.14982040
>>14981795
>they might phase it out and just make online play free, but any additional online features being paid
Would be 100% okay with this.
894348 No.14996568
>>14901251
This is baffling to me. I think even the Wii U had voice chat.
>>14953197
Paid online applies to first parties while other games will vary. Depends on whether or not the servers are going to be used. Paladins should use their own server unless there's no cross play for whatever reason and the Switch version gets its own servers.