/v/ - Video Games

>>14896970

>>>/mobage/

>>14897810

>op shit on it calling it mobashit

>anon point to mobage

are you retarded?

>>14896970

theres nothing to talk about really. former is a shitty moba game with special "generals" which have different power, you play on a map with 3 side of tunnel and fight with tic-tac-toc strategy level…..it pure shit

>britonnia

>denuevo

doesnt even need to be talked about

Fuck off totalshill

>>14896970

Why would you want to play modern total war anyway?

>>14896970

>Arena

mckill yourself

Medieval2fags can join you as well

M1 and Shogun 1 were the best by far

Nah I do not play MMO.

still no one crack TOB.

>>14904573

Fucking nostalgiafag.

>>14896970

I ain't buying none of your game anymore CA fag, there's no way you're going to convince me to buy another one of your games which you pay for 20% of it while the rest are DLC's.

Good job trying though, try cuckchan, I'm sure those faggots will answer to your baits unironically, they always do.

>>14905929

I just bought WaWa1 for $8, I am mad that they do not do a GOTY with all DLC.

This is just incompetent.

>>14906078

Can't make a GOTY version when your game is shit and you release a new game every 4 months. Also kill yourself, just torrent that shit retard.

You're not allowed to talk about TW on /v/ - It triggers the Rome fags too much.

>>14907758

But WaWa1 have uncrackable DLC that I like.

TW arena confirmed Chad's game of choice

>>14907675

Thrones of Britannia was such a shitshow of bugs and broken mechanics even the normalfags took notice. It's sitting at Mixed with a score of 59% on Steam. Can't imagine how much worse the chink pandering one will be.

4chan is still down i see.

>>14911365

ToB got review bombed though, I heard it is a good game.

>>14911733

Yeah, because that happens out of the blue. Also, welcome back CA shill.

>>14911888

Of course CA is guilty of a lot of shit, but ToB has been DLC-free so far.

inb4 it should be a DLC

>>14911888

>Yeah, because that happens out of the blue. Also, welcome back CA shill.

Faggots are sage bombing this thread because they are butthurt, why wouldn't the cockmonglers on Steam?

>>14912372

Switching IPs isn't fooling anyone.

>why wouldn't the cockmonglers on Steam?

Because the game is genuinely shit.

>>14912372

Yes calling someone a retard on the internet is the same as unironically paying 40 bucks just to say it's bad

So CA have answered the question about which version of the time period we'll be getting in Three Kingdoms. Both. By default, the game will be the romanticized version, but apparently there will be a "classic" mode that'll be more realistic.

>>14913356

What does that even mean? A choice between Wuxia stuff and regular Chink warfare?

>>14913466

I think the only difference might be the Romance mode will have the "Legendary Lords and Heroes" stuff you see in Total WaWa and the classic mode won't.

>>14913356

Who gives a fuck? It will be shit just like everything they've released lately. Might as well go back and replay Medieval 2 for the n-th time.

>>14913356

Am I the only one thinking this is dangerously close to the uncanny valley?

>>14914368

And Attila was already a steaming pile of unoptimized shit. I wish CA spent as much money and effort on programmers as they do on their art department, and maybe hired someone who knows what makes games fun.

>>14914388

They are just Chinese.

>>14913356

FINALLY a Total War game with Koreans in it!

>>14914360

>Isn't that because China has no real records of the real history of their country?

After everything was destroyed by barbarian hordes and/or communists, yes.

>>14914418

Attila is a great game, shut your mouth.

>>14896970

> Token black dude (not really but close enough to virtue signal) and token woman on the cover

Not touching it anyways

>>14914360

>>14914553

This, and its because China as a single country just doesn't exist. Its always just been a conglomerate of tribes paying tribute to one big dog or another. Modern China tries to erase that and pass themselves off as a modern nation but who the fuck do they think they're fooling.

>>14915016

It is greatly mediocre.

>>14915050

>>14915065

Nope, it is one genuine great modern TW along with WaWa.

>>14915052

That is Hannibal who is tanned, not black, abd Boudicca.

>>14915083

If you don't mind me asking, what was your first TW title?

>>14915083

WaWa isn't a great modern TW game, its a warhammer game that isn't complete dogshit and that's why its popular. If they released the M2TW source fans would have a better game up in a year.

>>14915091

Medieval 1.

>>14915092

Another total bull, M2TW cannot handle flying unit nor heroes.

>>14915142

Actually, there's a Warhammer mod for Med2 which shows that flying units do work in it.

As for heroes, they got beefed up with hit point increasing items, but that's about it, I think.

And if you started with Med1, you must have truly hated it to consider Attila a good part of the series.

Honestly, I used to be really upset about all of this a long time ago, but nowadays I don't even care and just want to see what new train wreck CA is going to put out.

>>14915088

> not really

Reading comprehension anon

>>14915213

What mod?

>>14914418

Attila had a much better launch than R2 and was an overall improvement. There's not liking a game and then there's blatantly lying about shit.

>>14917193

I call the whole flying unit in Med 2 bullshit but I will like to see they try, after all, they did put the fucking Balrog in the Third Age mod somehow.

>>14918072

Just download the Beginning of the End Times and make a custom battle with Pegasus Knights (or just play a normal campaign).

I think they can also fly over castle walls, but have to follow the street as they do it.

I'd post screenshots, but the mod is not installed on my computer right now.

>>14904573

M2TW is fantastic. Youre a faggot.

>>14917193

BotEt is fucking great minus a few bugs. The flying units operate similar to cavalry and can bug out sometimes but they work about as well as in WAWA

Is there anything like the TW games but with actually functioning AI?

>>14938683

fuck off, all that shit is pre-rendered garbage, its just using in-engine art. CA are notorious for pulling that shit the game won't look anywhere near like that video.

Also doing a split campaign is a recipe for disaster since now they have to split up their QA methods which were already notoriously shit. But what ever you faggots will buy fag this shit anyway despite the fact that the same shit has happened with every total war game since Rome 1. CA lies out their asses.

they released some in-battle footage and it's complete shit, multiple warham style heroes who are capped at leading 2-3 army units, massive, glaring historical innacuracies, still using the shit engine with shit mechanics etc

chinks are complaining in the comments and getting lots of likes, gonna be hilarious if they drop it en masse and CA dies after trying to appeal to the autistic ant person market and not even bothering to wank them off properly

Anyone hype for the new gameplay trailer?

Look like siege combat is back to the menu boy, and the new duel system is long overdue for Total War titles.

>>14947360

>>14960934

Aside from Koei's ROTK series they don't have a lot of competition for strategy games with that setting.

please gib recommendations

>>14960946

Oriental Empires and the rest of Koei's Romance of the Three Kingdoms games.

>>14947360

>Battle of Xia Pi

>spring

U wot.

>>14904573

>M1 and Shogun 1 were the best by far

You're right but people keep clinging to M2 simply because of the soundtrack and ambiance despite the game barely functioning at release and functioning poorly to this very day. They're the equivalent of people who like Dawn of War 2 more than Dawn of War 1.

>>14983550

>Event: Death stalks the land

>Population decimated by AIDS

>>14913356

This looks like it would have potential to be a great game if it weren't for the fact that it's just going to be yet another game on the same engine with the same mechanics.

>>14983955

3K will not have same mechanics, I do not know what same mechanics means for TW anymore.

>play SSHIP as byzantium

>smash the early Rum "army" of not even ten units of horseniggers, militia and OP as fuck bodyguards

>vassalize them in five turns because fuck the massive permanent capital unrest

>next turn a nearly full stack is given to the ai and scripted to autowin a siege of a citadel

Why do modders do this? Just give them the units at the start, the AIs fow hax and the much weaker garrison in Kayseri compared to Nikaea means the AI should quickly conquer it as AI Serbia does Bosnia and southern Serbia and if they aren't aggressive enough to do it, at least conquering might have some challenge beyond the silly amounts of unrest.

>>14979559

Its early footage so I'd expect them to polish it (like with warhammer), but man it really looks worse than Britannia at this point.

Warhammer 3 when?

trawling aimlessly through yidtube shitters and found this, top wew

>CA stepping up their jew game and putting spyware into all of their games, even older titles with new (((steam))) updates

>>14989596

What the fuck?

>>14989654

Why isn't this blown up everywhere?

And I just bought Total Wawa1, not install it yet though.

>>14989665

The recent Warhammer sale has a very good deal for the main game.

>>14989691

still not worth it, you can't even play mods for the first one since they integrated W1 and W2 workshops, not even hiding that w2 is just an expansion

>>14989712

The turtle formation is accurate and the duel is a necessary mechanics for a 3 Kingdom game (the Romance has a shitload of duels).

>>14989743

Not going to argue about the turtle formation shit because the roman were not the only doing that tactics, the Qin soldiers were doing it at the same time and thus the Han follows it.

The game is based on Romance of 3 Kingdoms, not the Chronicles, so good joke. Most people don't even know about the Chronicles/Records, so whatever m8.

>>14989783

You are posting a picture from the Romance of the 3 Kingdoms TV series.

Also, look closely, they don't use ladder, they use rope to move into wall

>The only reason it's "based on the Romance books" is because they're lazy niggers who want to keep the warhammer hero system while further dumbing down the actual battles.

I assume they do it because Romance of the 3 Kingdoms is well-known worldwide, making a game about the Chronicles is alienating basically 70% of the audience except chinese history nerds.

>You understand their motivation for making this isn't for brain dead console gamers who buy the new Dynasty Warriors every year, but actual chinkies who are infinitely more invested and knowledgeable about the material?

Wut? Their motivation is just to make a 3 Kingdoms Total War, the fact they put into the half ass classic mode is a mistake, shoulda gone full fantasy.

Skip through this, an overview of the ROTK mod.

A fully functioning game, they even do hero stuff with unique powers and so on, but not as retarded superheros. ALL CA needed to do was copy this, just like how copying Rage of Dark Gods or the other M2 Warhammer mods would have made a much better game than what they shat out.

>>14989789

Yes, I enjoy the television series. That means precisely nothing when dealing with Total War.

The source for Romance is the Chronicles, it's "historical fiction" loosely based on real events.

I think you're a shill tbh, nobody can be this stupid. Why go full fantasy when Three Kingdoms (the Ambition game) and Dynasty Warriors exist and when everyone except for their new crop of warhammer retards wants HISTORICAL games.

>>14989814

>A fully functioning game, they even do hero stuff with unique powers and so on, but not as retarded superhero

There's nothing retardly superheroes that have been shown so far.

Various 3 kingdom games exist but there's only one strategy game that is well-known, and it's not popular for the westerners.

Total War 3 kingdoms are the game to tape into that market.

>That means precisely nothing when dealing with Total War.

It means everything basically because Total War is based on Romance, like the TV series.

>when everyone except for their new crop of warhammer retards wants HISTORICAL games.

Like the millions of chinese history nerds out there? You are not convincing anyone dude. Face it, Romance of the 3 Kingdoms is the face of the series, everyone knows the Romance, not the Chronicles, stop being a hipster piece of shit.

>>14989830

I'm especially mad regarding the self-warranted importance of the chinese history fags, especially when it comes to the ROTK, and that these fags just play Dynasty Warriors while running their mouth as if they care about historical accuracy.

for fucks sake you mong I'm talking about the market they are attempting to appeal to, the autistic chinks who care a LOT about both the history and the book because it's basically all the history the CCP lets them read. They get their Romance jollies, TW is a series known for historical warfare, they want to see a historical title, as evidenced by all the chingchongs in CA's comments section screeching about historical inaccuracy and how shit the game looks in general.

Also for your information I moonlight as a sinologist also my dad works at sega :^), among other historical subdivisions so shut the fuck up and watch some chinky television based on the history rather than the romance.

>>14989725

>The turtle formation is accurate

[citation needed]

They are just lazy bastards that port R2 and WH mechanics into time period that would require completely reworked ones. Like this guy said >>14989743

Total War is going down the road of Ass Creed. Countless iteration that are just paintjobs on the same broken engine,

>the Romance has a shitload of duels

Can't wait they do an Illiad TW. Fiction and lotsa duels.

>>14989765

>Not going to argue about the turtle formation shit because the roman were not the only doing that tactics

What are you a woman for dismissing an argument like that? Tactics and equipment adapt to the situation and culture.

Turtle formation was done to combat barbarians with that had crude weapons and had shields designed to do just that. Why would Chinks need such a formation outside of a rare situation that needed shields raised above and around the soldiers?

>The game is based on Romance of 3 Kingdoms, not the Chronicles, so good joke. Most people don't even know about the Chronicles/Records, so whatever m8.

Then advertise it as fiction.

>>14989783

>implying that CA is willing to implement a completely new mechanics since the debacle of Empire

>>14989596

Diabolic fucking assholes. This is an entirely new level of jew.

>>14989879

The chink market cares even less about history than you do, sinoboo.

The average chink knows ROTK via the fucking TV shows and mangua, and mobile vidya games. You are preaching to a non-existence audience.

>TW is a series known for historical warfare, they want to see a historical title,

Oh please, Rome Total War 1 has an entierely stereotypical Egyptian faction, Total War follows the rules of cool first and foremost, not historical accuracy.

>>14989887

Dude, the tetsudo formation of the romans were used to combat against missiles, the turtle formation employed by Qin and later Han soldiers are used for the same purpose because chinks fight against chinks who use crossbow as well as bows, and the horse archers from nomadic tribes. The act of raising shield together isn't as revolutionary as you think.

>Then advertise it as fiction.

This is something they do from day one, they should say it Romance of the 3 Kingdoms: Total War and save the time instead of half-assing everything.

And yes they should do a Illiad TW, that would be boss.

>>14989887

>>implying that CA is willing to implement a completely new mechanics since the debacle of Empire

Apparently, heroes, flying units, magic ain't new mechanics.

But dudes shooting each other is new.

Face it, victorian and napoleon era combat are fucking boring, it's just dudes with different guns.

I'll expand on the formation thing because history

Fish Scale Formation has been memed recently into "lol some romans actually fought with the chinks/arabs somehow" but it is just a method of protecting against arrows with overlapping shields. It may have been combined with slanted, diagonal positioning of soldiers to more effectively weather charges, or incorporated into checkerboard macro-formations to provide multiple levels of fallback and defence.

There was a great site around a few years ago called Grand Historian which dealt specifically with the arms, armour, siege weapons and tactics of warring states-three kingdoms china, but it seems to have disappeared. It had some really great information on the siege weapons in particular, describing a lot more than the few things I wrote about earlier.

Also another easy ripoff CA could have done was lift 1648, facelift it and put a modicum of effort in for combined-arms units smh.

>>14989887

It's what gets me so annoyed about CA and TW, the formula has amazing potential and they piss it all down the drain for a quick buck, sabotaging themselves in the long run. I had hopes for the Darthmod guy's Ultimate General games but they're definitely not the same thing.

Oriental Empires is probably the best chinaman simulator around in a similar genre, but it's still not right.

>>14989814

quality mod, shame I now have to pirate Medieval 2 in order to play the fucking thing. Fucking Jews over at CA. God fucking damn this shit. But yeah that mod looks amazing.

>>14989926

Oriental Empires is basically the historical accurate chinaman simulator, and guess what, it's fucking boring.

Same goddamn ass chink spearman vs swordsman vs horseman for every factions with different state.

If that's the price of historical accuracy, then CA is right in following rules of cool.

>>14989927

The big problem with that mod is unit variety, it's just different chinks in different armor.

They are trying to be historical accurate and variety suffers. There's a reason Romance puts the focus on heroes, and not the armies themselves.

>>14989948

>diversity.

If you don't want to sound like too much of a cuck may I suggest the word variety instead. kek.

>>14989945

>completely ignoring the unique hero bodyguards and faction/hero specific recruitable units which are also broadly historically accurate, eg the Camp Crushers, Tiger Guard etc.

Anyway we all know CA will do the same thing for this as they have done for every other title… Make low effort reskins of a few unit types. There will be none of this "rule of cool", CA is too lazy for that.

>>14989953

lol lad smh

at least the enrichment will come through in an accurate manner with lots of blood and gore that way

>>14989948

These amazingly cool stuff were made for fantasy duels, dude.

Like come the fuck on, in Medieval 2, there's an army of zweihander out there, that's not accurate, but it's there because it's cool as shit.

Total War has a weird sense of contradiction where it's the most realistic game regarding battle-wise, but it's not realistic regarding unit depiction.

>>14989958

>Anyway we all know CA will do the same thing for this as they have done for every other title… Make low effort reskins of a few unit types. There will be none of this "rule of cool", CA is too lazy for that.

Funny because CA is already having more variety of unit than OE, by having an archer unit that is also a spearman, or having an axeman unit.

They are trying their best here and I suspect there will be some ridiculous shit like Dong Zhou being a giant with giant retinue.

>>14989964

OE wasn't made by AAAs though. Remember that and it was in Early Access which no doubt would've hurt what they could do because Early Access games are always half baked. For CA to half bake their shit though is inexcusable when they're charging full price + DLCs.

>>14989981

>check my first pic, the Zhanmadao. A big fuck off sword because some random chink who thought he was smart decided pikes weren't good enough for killing horses and made a bunch of people use giant katana knockoffs to chop horse heads off instead.

Dude, you think a unit with big sword/big axe is somehow new to Total War, really? Every TW has one since Med 2.

And I don't see the archer/spearman in OE.

>Not to mention going outside of the Three Kingdoms scope and having a full array of gunpowder units.

For the next game you mean? Because no way 3 Kingdoms are gonna have gunpowder units.

>>14989995

>>14989981

Though there should be some correction here, zhanmadao was not a 3 kingdom weapon, is it?

Assuming we even speak about historical accuracy here, 3 Kingdom is about 220BCE, there is no way the chinks can craft that big ass sword, Guan Yu's signature green dragon halberd is already a technical impossibility.

>>14896970

Is that nigger on the cover meant to be hannibal? Do they realise Carthage was Phoenician? Do they realise that even the current inhabitants of Tunis are whiter than this?

>>14990020

WE WUZ

>>14990020

It's Hannibal, but upon closer inspection, he's not black, just very tanned.

>>14990051

If so, OE really should have more variety than it currently is.

5000bc to 1500ad is a shitload of time to cover.

For comparison, 3 Kingdoms is gonna be about 50-60 years at most.

And really, most crazy Chinaman weapons are actually individual weapons used by the heroes (Lu Bu's spear, Zhang Fei's seprent halberd…), the average troop either has a spear/halberd, a crossbow and/or a sword, that's about it.

Some more examples, some used during the three kingdoms period, some not.

Rattan Shields & armour - used mostly by the southern barbarian tribes which fought as mercenaries and were eventually brought into the Greater China sphere during the period. A single shield could consume over a mile of rattan strips and could be soaked in lacquer, eventually becoming iron-hard. Some sources list a drawback of extreme flammability, so fire arrows would actually have a use against them.

>>14990062

ahhhhhhhh nigger shut up

this entire time I've been providing interesting, varied weapons used in mass combat on the battlefield.

>>14990109

Isn't that just pike phalanx?

>>14947360

>warscape

no thanks

>>14990109

The wolf brush isn't actually used to provide any kills. It's to latch on to some unlucky fucker and drag them towards the pike formation. Later versions even have holes for the wielder to put foliage on so that it obscures the pike itself and makes for a handy roof sweeper.

>>14990273

yeah, a variety of mancatcher weapons exist, especially the nip policeman's gear. It's rare to see them in battle though since a dagger-axe halberd can fulfill the same function.

I think the wolf brush was first used against pirates, here's chinky film clip about it, heavily unrealistic ofc

>>14989959

>Like come the fuck on, in Medieval 2, there's an army of zweihander out there, that's not accurate, but it's there because it's cool as shit.

these are supposed to be late units, from the time when gunpowder was more common. they are pretty much landsknecht and doppelsoldners, which are historically accurate

>>14990363

How about no?

Zweihander are supposed to serve as flankers for the landsknecht/pikemen, they are not a separate unit.

So in reality, it would be more like your 200 strong pikeman unit can outfit itself with some halberdiers or zweihanders on its front or flank.

I think Total War has always been kind of shit. Many of the problems in recent ones have always been there.

>>14990387

that depends on how the player decides to use them. this is correct way but you can also choose to be retarded

now please leave us shill-kun

>>14990438

it would fix the "battles" of shogun onwards that last all of five minutes

chinkko mortensen fighting in 200bc

won't deny the main reason I got into sinology and general foreign military history is that they're able to make decent war films that glorify their past, unlike shitty western nonesense ridden with jew guilt propaganda

>>14987182

>Why do modders do this?

Check whether the modders are turks.

>>14989945

There was a "historically accurate" Chingchong warfare game, it's SH2 and everyone complained about muh unit variety.

>>14989916

>Dude, the tetsudo formation of the romans were used to combat against missiles

Jesus fucking Christ this nigger right there. Came into the series with Rome 2 and learned from those shitty ahistorical combat mechanics.

Testudo was used in the similar way that the phalanx was. Keeping the enemies out of the formation so they don't break it and holding the line while the front butchered the shield thumping enemies. That and ambush situations where you would be overwhelmed if separate.

Which was the most common barbarian tactics of fighting. You'd fucking now if you fought with barbarians against Rome in Rome 1. Overwhelm and try to shove as many of your best troops into the formation.

Missiles (bows) were on a backburner in ancient times, mainly due to shitty bow technology that got updated after ancient times. Cretan archers and Balearic slingers are literal TW memes.

Main missiles in ancient warfare were thrown pilas that were used in the skrimish part of the battle. The rest was infantry combat and butchery with cavalry coming into play with Alexander.

This is why Rome 2 and CA are literal dogshit. They incorporate medieval european weapons and tactics into ancient warfare for the leet kids like yourself that want fast battles. Ancient battles were hour long butcheries of heavy infantry with some Carrhae thrown in.

Main bow empires were the Eastern ones such as Parthians. And Rome sure as fuck didn't design their army around fighting those since their main business was with the barbarians north of them for the majority of their reign.

>The act of raising shield together isn't as revolutionary as you think.

Roman shields that were used in testudo formations were designed to LOCK into each other. And even testudo was abandoned when they adapted round and more maneuverable shields to manage the frontiers.

It isn't only equipment, it's also the situation and the tactics involved.

>And yes they should do a Illiad TW, that would be boss.

You're a fucking retard.

>>14989925

>Apparently, heroes, flying units, magic ain't new mechanics.

Yeah you're right they copied those from HOMM. Something that they dropped initially but rebooted as they lost their main innovation drivers.

>>14989926

They have a monopoly. That's the problem. Anyone challenging it has a steep hill to climb because of brainwashed fanboys. I'll stick with MTW 2 mods since they are better and still get new once in a while while the rest get steadily updated.

>>14990358

Oh that particular time period was hilarious because it was two separate instances when the nips decided to pretend to be gooks and raid the chinks. The first time it was the shogunate itself and the second time I believe it was the satsuma which will later rebel against the shogunate with the funds they acquired raiding the chinks. The funky thing is I can't remember why the wolf brush was introduced because I know for a certainty that the advantage the fake gook nip pirates had over the chinks was that the pirates had an abundance of matchlocks, not shiny bronze mirrors.

>>14990734

I think the only direct competitor for the genre was the King Arthur: the Roleplaying Wargame (there are 3 of them iirc) games, which contain interesting ideas that you can see CA tried to copy in their newer titles (magic abilities, battlefield buff capture zones etc) but which falls very far flat due to an absolutely disgusting control scheme and generally poor usability.

>>14990874

No, the magic thing in WaWa1 stems fron Warhammer magic rules, not King Arthur.

So per leddit and Total War Center, the CA kikes just remove RedShell, did anyone confirm?

>>14990734

>Yeah you're right they copied those from HOMM. Something that they dropped initially but rebooted as they lost their main innovation drivers.

What the holy fuck? HoMM is a turn-based strategy you fucking retard, how the fuck does TW, a real time game, copy a turn-based game? Never mind that WHFB is older than Might & Magic.

>Jesus fucking Christ this nigger right there. Came into the series with Rome 2 and learned from those shitty ahistorical combat mechanics.

Tetsudo were used against missile, end off.

Maniple were used against barbarians, come the fuck on.

>Cretan archers and Balearic slingers are literal TW memes.

Slingers sure, but archers, no. Archers were used widely in the antiquity world, especially the dreaded horse from the eastern stepple.

>>14990734

>You're a fucking retard.

And can't you tell me WHY they shouldn't make an Illiad Total War?

Because as said, that would be boss.

>>14997298

>especially the dreaded horse archers* from the eastern stepple.

>>14913356

THE TYRANNY OF DONG ZHOU MUST BE UNDONE.

THE HAN DYNASTY WILL RISE ONCE MORE.

Thank God for modders.

>>14997298

> Archers were used widely in the antiquity world, especially the dreaded horse from the eastern stepple.

But Crete isn't the Steppe.

>>15006456

Crete is not the whole of Europe, persian archer was also famous.

>>15006520

But Crete is not Persia you nigger.

There is no historical record of Cretans being good archers. There is no record of Balearic slingers being better than everybody else.

>>14898818

Most of those criticisms aren't even accurate. DLCs are the worst part, but that applies everywhere, to say nothing of the pandering.

>>15006620

The Cretan archer is from Alexander record actually. They were famous mercenaries that complement their force since Greek isn't known for archery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cretan_archers

This is common knowledge though.

Still waiting for that English Civil War/30 Years War Total War game granted they would fuck pike and shot up

>>14914360

Pre-communism Chinese culture is preserved in places like Taiwan, Japan and Korea.

>>15006749

Way to choose one of the most boring settings imaginable. Why not something actually fun like the Spanish Reconquista?

>>15006769

It would be great, with the ew technology rapidly changing tactics, pan european wars, royal families, imperialism, world trade, it is an extremely interesting period, i hoped it was either that or WW1 for the new total war title, instead we got bronze age chinks

>Spanish Reconquista

That would make a great expansion for a Medieval 3 but the industry is too pozzed to portray the setting accurately

>>15006783

The problem with pike and shot is the same problem Shogun and Empire suffer under, everyone's fighting using the same units. Even with Medieval you really have to pull some creative liberties to make factions distinct.

Antiquity works best because pretty much everyone fought differently.

>Medieval 3

I don't want to see NuCA sully the name by releasing a sequel.

>>15006792

>The problem with pike and shot is the same problem Shogun and Empire suffer under, everyone's fighting using the same units

I really don't think so, especially if they expand the map as they should do, i'm talking about late medieval to early imperial, think a game bridging Medieval 2 with Empire in the timeline, there would be significant variation among armies but especially between years or tech levels

>>15006824

>>15006792

Pike and shot would have more variety than fucking Napoleon or sure, which boils down different dudes in different uniforms shooting each other.

Then again people really fucking want a Civil War Total War where it's dude in blues shooting dudes in brown.

>>15006907

>Then again people really fucking want a Civil War Total War where it's dude in blues shooting dudes in brown.

There's Ultimate General, kinda. What I really like is that you get to equip your troops with any kind of rifle you can buy, which helps diversify the roster somewhat.

>>15006938

That's a cool feature that CA would do well to copy, yeah.

>>15006992

>>15006938

If you set it in africa you could have a fuck ton of different units.

The main problem here is that these periods have all be covered in earlier total war games.

The illiad would end up like the romance version of Three Kingdoms if it follows the ancient greek story, with demi and full on gods fighting eachother on the battlefield, super powered heroes and at least one sea monster.

Not exactly a historically accurate game to be had there.

But without it, all you have are the Greek city-states from Rome ! and II.

Americal Civil war would just be Napoleon TW set in the US.

British Civil War would lack scope badly and has a lot of overlap with late Medieval 2. If you made it about the 30 years war, maybe starting a hundred years earlier, with the hussite rebellion and focused it on pike and shot in europe while fighting savages and barbarians around the world as colonies are starting to grow, throw in ottomans, india and china, maybe even japan, and you have a diverse and interesting game with a focus on weapons and tactics that haven't been directly covered so far.

Alternatetly, they could follow the Warhammer model and either make their own fantasy universe or buy the rights to make games set in others.

Elder Scrolls Total War?

LotR Total War?

GoT Total War?

Those all have mods and followings proving it can be done and that there's a market.

I'm sure you can think of other settings you could put a Total War game in if you really wanted.

>>15007300

Wouldn't really mind LOTR Total War and Illiad Total War to be honest.

The Illiad is actually chokefull of factions/units/heroes, and would be really cool to cover.

Or in fact do a Age of Mythology Total War.

Really, it's all about creativity and budget.

>>15007319

>The Illiad is actually chokefull of factions/units/heroes, and would be really cool to cover.

You mean the hoplites, the other hoplites, the other other hoplites and then there's the famous hoplites. Also skirmishers with javelins or slings since ancient greeks where shit archers and they didn't have any decent bows any way. And lets not forget the useless cavalry for scouting.

Beyond that, which is all in Rome 1 and 2, you have to go mythological.

On the subject of a Mythology TW though, what about a Ragnarock Total war? All kinds of giants, trolls, Svartalfer (the word means black elves, but really, they're the basis for tolkiens dwarves) elves and all kinds of monsters.

>>15007429

Might as well not be a pleb and play Dom5 then.

>>15007438

True enough I suppose, if only Dom5 would let me control my armies in the fucking field.

>>15007429

It would hoplite vs spearman vs swordsman vs amazon tribesman.

The illad has a shitton of kingdoms and tribes to get creative.

>>15007438

Man, if you combine Dom with Total War, you just got a God tier game right there.

>>15007429

>Hoplites

>Hypaspi

>Companion cavalry

>Prodromi

>Sarissa welding 2handed pikemen

>Light one handed hoplite spearmen

>Cretan archers

>Iranian horse archers

>Peltast

>Gastraphetes

And that's just the greek

>>15007805

As a full faction? Probably never. But if they release a Southern Realms DLC they'll probably get a Amazon RoR. The Southern Realms mod has one.

>>14896970

>Total War Arena

Wake me up when they make a Total War Daggerfall

>>15008233

>Hoplites

Thats the basic infantry for pretty much all the greek citystates. Dates back to around 500 years AFTER the iliad, which is normally dated to be 1260 BC to 1100 BC.

>Hypaspi

If you mean Hypaspists, then its litterally a man with a aspis (hopelite shield), armor, Dory (hoplite spear) and a sword. In other words, thats a hoplite. They are also macedonian and from alexander the greats army, in the 300's BC 800 to 900 years AFTER the iliad. They'd be as appropriate in this time as Viking marauders would be during WWII.

>Companion cavalry

Thats alexander the great, again.

>Sarissa welding 2handed pikemen

Thats alexander the great, again.

>Prodromi

Alexander the great, again.

>Cretan Archers

While records of hunters with bows on crete go back to 2000 bc or so, their use as mercenaries goes back to alexander the great, again.

>Muh Horse Archers

Early iranian horse archers go back to around 900 bc, but didn't become common in the military until 700 bc to 600 bc when they replaced chariots.

>Peltast

They became widespread during the peloponisian war, fought a few decades after that row with the persians.

>Gastraphetes

Same period as the peltasts.

Aside from not being in the right millenia for the Iliad, this doesn't resolve the problem that all your heavy infantry will be variations on the Hoplite, cavalry are largely useless since we are a long way from the massed cavalry charge of medieval Europe, ranged weapons can do little if any damage to heavy infantry of the period (our arrows will blot out the sun, and all that).

Besides, rome and rome 2 fit the alexander the great and the greek wars with persia period, being set 200 years after it.

Hell, Rome 1 had an expansion specifically covering alexanders conquests.

>ID 85617f (41)

This guy is 100% retarded and possibly a shill.

>>15009932

They do have a mercenary system. They're called called Regiments of Renown.

>>15009952

I thought RoR was just supposed to be slighlty better versions of your normal units. I mean like getting ogres in your empire army by spending money not just a slightly better swordsman for free.

>>14926958

>>>/cuckchan/

>>15009972

RoR supports unique units too. Dark Elves get a flying version of Dark Riders with crossbows, for example. CA are just lazy.

>>15010163

Like I said earlier, check out the Southern Realm mod in the workshop. It's pretty well fleshed out.