25eac1 No.14887691
So now that the dust has settled over the G/S '97 Spaceworld leaks, is any one else a little disappointed, ultimately? It was fun seeing unused Pokemon designs, yet…
While I think each of the actual designs for Cleffa, Noctowl, Heracross, Delibird, Murkrow, Elekid, Remoraid and Octillery are decent or even good(In Heracross and Octillery's cases) now that I know these exist I'm disappointed they weren't used.
They're much better and similar enough that they could have swapped the design and the Pokemon would be essentially the same.
If you could replace 5 Pokemon, including their evolutions/baby forms with the leaked beta versions, which would you pick? Personally Murkrow looks like a fucking god with the witch hat, Cleffa actually looks like an alien from the moon, Elekid looks cute and interesting, Noctowl looks more menacing and streamlined, and Heracross looks downright menacing with its mask, so those are what I would replace.
a3bec7 No.14887694
More like, where's the porn?
33e1e1 No.14887697
I was almost going to curse you out because I thought you were bashing the better beta designs, that misunderstanding out of the way, I completely agree with you.
A lot of the Pokemon make more sense now (Octillery/Remoraid) for example, but that pun and purpose is lost with the finalized designs.
c703da No.14887707
>>14887691
>now that I know these exist I'm disappointed they weren't used.
The noctowl one would've been a great second stage with Noktowl as the third. Cleffa and Elekid look like shit. Murkrow's could've been an alternate form, a baby pre-evo or a gender difference. Delibird actually looking like Santa Claus is an improvement. Remoraid and Octillery look more like weapons which is good. And it looks like Heracross was supposed to be an evolved form of Pinsir? Other than that I would've loved to have seen the other unused babies and especially the unused Farfetch'd evo. So many good baby mon and evos for Gen 1 mon wasted. I also like how Leafeon had roots for feet. Among other things.
25eac1 No.14887712
>>14887691
Here's the actual sprite sheet, by the way.
A lot of Pokemon look absolutely fucked too, some sprites are even worse than R/G
724ea0 No.14887730
>>14887691
>now that the dust has settled
Go back to 4chan you fucking mong.
730dde No.14887731
>heracross
That's clearly Pinsir's equivalent of Scizor. Anyways I personally thought those additions to the Tangela line were really cool, way better than Tangrowth. Really upset that we'll never see all those babies, too. And of course obligatory mention of Borygon2.
33e1e1 No.14887734
>>14887712
>Be Strong For Mother
25eac1 No.14887736
>>14887730
I haven't been on cuckchan in years, shitheel. Owned.
3e617b No.14887740
>>14887712
>Hoppip line looks like they were taking some inspiration from either Kirby or Mana.
>>14887707
Make Witchkrow a female evolution to Murkrow, while retaining Honchkrow as the male evolution.
>>14887731
>Borygon2.
You mean Porygondola2, as was determined last thread.
724ea0 No.14887744
>>14887736
Oh, you're just an underaged dipstick playing where he doesn't belong. Gotcha.
25eac1 No.14887747
>>14887731
I know it's supposed to be Pinsir's evo, but that Pokemon obviously eventually became Heracross.
Jaranra is awesome, at the very least it could have been a female variant of Tangrowth (which I actually like as far as Sinnoh evolutions of Gen 1 Pokemon go)
33e1e1 No.14887750
>>14887744
You sound mad out of something you yourself came to a conclusion. How do you do it?
33e1e1 No.14887752
>>14887740
The fucking littleo/castform looking thing was a Porygon2 beta!? What the fuck.
ece95b No.14887760
>>14887750
Seeing enough retarded warosu template threads with the exact same starting line?
c703da No.14887766
>>14887740
>Make Witchkrow a female evolution to Murkrow, while retaining Honchkrow as the male evolution.
Nice, but maybe she should've had a ruff of feathers that look like a cape on its back.
>>14887731
Tangrowth could've been the second stage and this cutie could've been the final form.
>>14887712
The bellsprout one is hideous, but thinking about it now, Bellsprout and Oddish were version counterparts. There should've been a counterpart to Belossom.
33e1e1 No.14887767
>>14887760
Tell mark to filter it to another phrase. Hit him up on discuck. He blocked me unfortunately, so we can't keep touch. There should be some very obvious things he should do that don't require and entite fucking meta thread to figure out.
25eac1 No.14887776
>>14887752
They probably changed it for legal reasons. Pon de Lion is the mascot for some fucking donut chain and it basically looks like beta Porgyon 2
3e617b No.14887779
>>14887752
>Same body parts/proportions (head, tail, torso and feet/legs, but no arms or hands).
>Same evolution of design as the actual porygon2 wound up with (blocky 3D becoming smooth and round).
I suppose the main issue was that the change from the dipping bird look may have been deemed a bit much. Then again, not like there haven't been canon odd evolutions (like Clamperl evolving into Huntail and Gorebyss).
a3bec7 No.14887791
>>14887712
Wait Delibird is a Santa?
3e617b No.14887792
>>14887712
>maybeIcanbeyourbellsprout.png
33e1e1 No.14887794
>>14887776
Holy shit. That IS a literal ripoff, never thought I'd see the monster designers stoop so low, even if beta. Still, it's cute and I want it.
8693c7 No.14887801
>>14887794
Since this was just beta shit nobody was meant to see, maybe it was just a joke placeholder, put in because they liked the donut chain.
Why would a polygonal duck evolve into a lion thing anyways?
25eac1 No.14887804
>>14887791
>It carries food rolled up in its tail. It has the habit of sharing food with people lost in mountains.
>Ice/Flying
>Red/white color scheme
>tail is Santa's bag of toys
no duh
b35499 No.14887808
>>14887804
I never even realized that lump was supposed to be a tail. I always thought it was carrying an actual sack.
ece95b No.14887826
>>14887808
>I always thought it was carrying an actual sack.
It's not?
3e617b No.14887838
>>14887808
Pretty sure it is a sack. Not like some Pokemon don't carry things in their visual appearances (though they may not have them equipped as far as game mechanics go).
28aa82 No.14887843
Ok but what the fuck is this shit
202eb3 No.14887908
>>14887843
>Hey, let's make a new electric rodent every generation
>How about we wait a couple gens first
>Okay
e680a4 No.14887967
>>14887843
Might be an early version of Elekid. I like it tbh.
1cfee5 No.14888010
>>14887967
Nah there is a clear beta Elekid in there, near the Mime Jr. and Smoochum beta.
3e617b No.14888056
fc9cfe No.14888058
>>14887843
it's an electric tiger
e680a4 No.14888065
>>14888010
Right. I missed that. Still, I like it.
e680a4 No.14888079
>>14887712
Interesting, how some sprites have changed a little bit, some have been completely thrown out and some haven't changed at all.
4fe4c7 No.14888084
>>14887694
Too busy working on Eve from Let's Go!
f0ff85 No.14888161
Really, my biggest reaction to seeing some of the Pokemon that were cut and haven't been reused is that I hate Stantler more. It's not creative (It's a fucking deer!), interesting (It's a fucking deer!), useful (early game stats, not obtainable till latter. no unique abilities), yet it was added after this beta despite clearly better options. The twin ghost thing, the anchor shark (which is a perfect pun in Nipponese and there "anchorage" is a pretty cool pun.) or the zombie panda would all have been much better.
Given where you first find Stantler, right before a ghost gym that needed more ghosts, the zombie panda would have fit in perfectly.
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730dde No.14888184
>>14888161
I was actually thinking the exact same thing not long ago. Fuck Stantler.
cb7779 No.14888193
79c541 No.14888231
>>14887843
I like this more than any of the later electric rodents. It's adorable.
Pudgy electric tiger.
202eb3 No.14888305
>>14888161
The worst part is that it's so ugly. It's face looks swollen and saggy, and what's with it's mouth, is that a beak? Antler design isn't even cool. And why is the tail "clipping" into it's body? That IS its tail right?
And two gens later we get ANOTHER deer.
fc9cfe No.14888310
>>14888305
>and what's with it's mouth, is that a beak?
that's its nose
>And two gens later we get ANOTHER deer.
*three gens
84688c No.14888324
I'm just sad that this majestic beast will never see the light of day.
79c541 No.14888668
>>14888324
If you made me choose this between Typhlosion I admit it's a hard choice, mostly because they like to depict Typhlosion without fire on its back when its not attacking.
a79354 No.14888675
>I have nothing but a mouth and I must scream
53da25 No.14888688
>>14888305
Stantler is one of the ugliest fucking pokemon I've ever seen and just seeing him pisses me off. Turned me off from deer-type pokemon forever. Fuck whoever designed that piece of shit.
399014 No.14888710
Beta Cleffa = Cleffa
Beta Noctowl < Noctowl
Beta Heracross <<< Heracross
Beta Delibird >> Delibird
Beta Murkrow >> Murkrow
Beta Elekid << Elekid
Beta Remoraid > Remoraid
Beta Octillery >>>> Octillery
Together I'm taking the beta designs. I can deal with the shitty Heracross and Elekid if you give me the fucking TANKILLERY.
1c9d23 No.14888756
fc9cfe No.14888761
>>14888756
you should have died in a fire with the beta dogs tbh
1c9d23 No.14888768
>>14888761
Sounds hot. Wanna join?
28224a No.14888797
Here you go. I made a new version of the chart
ad4794 No.14888802
>>14888675
what if we're wrong and it's not a mouth, but like a piece of fucking metal just stuck in a ditto.
28224a No.14888821
>>14887712
>Scizor was going to be green
Interesting.
cb7779 No.14888836
>>14888710
what about leafeon tho owo
508883 No.14888840
>>14888821
Shiny scizor still is.
It looks fucking awful.
0abdce No.14888842
>>14888193
>Furries invade another thread
7th Tier retards need to be banned, but mark is a furry himself so it's never going to happen
28224a No.14888849
>>14888231
>>14888058
>>14888056
>>14887967
>>14887908
>>14887843
It's a walking pun.
>raiga (ライガー), meaning "thunder fang."
>raiga often gets mistranslated into Tiger
>that is why pic related is called a "tiger" even though it's a fucking wolf that shoots lightning
1c9d23 No.14888854
>>14888842
Wanting to fuck an intelligent fantasy animal is nowhere near as degenerate as wanting to fuck an underage child.
c703da No.14888874
>>14887712
That beta Schissor looks better than the final design. Its head even looks more like Scyther's. Hell I like the majority of them except beta Bayleef which is absolute garbage and the ones who got better designs in the final version. But that Farfetch'd veggie goose evo torments me. Low long I wanted Farfetch'd to have an evo.
c703da No.14888880
>>14888874
>Schissor
Scizor. Fuck.
17a664 No.14888949
>Bulbagarden Forums is now Rainbow Rocket forums
>now looks more like an LGBTBBQ forum with all those gaudy rainbows, rainbowflags and "loving" messages everywhere
Sweet fuck, Bulbagarden really went full faggot in recent times. Not gonna help to improve the fandom's already fucked up reputation.
1c9d23 No.14888986
>>14888949
Why the fuck were you going there in the first place?
17a664 No.14889011
>>14888986
I was trying to find the source of the picture in >>14888797 to see if the names were legit. It led me to bubafagden
c703da No.14889029
>>14889008
No. That would be this >>14739176
f5a480 No.14889081
>>14888949
>>14889011
Here you go.
https:// tcrf.net/Proto:Pok%C3%A9mon_Gold_and_Silver/Pok%C3%A9mon
fc9cfe No.14889114
>>14889086
Dabbing is a forced meme
1c9d23 No.14889119
>>14889114
I believe that anyone who dabs, even ironically, should be publicly executed. Average IQ will skyrocket.
7cdead No.14889269
Now we wait for the Gen 3 Beta.
74b4d8 No.14889287
>>14889269
Maybe Gen 3's beta pokemon will actually look good.
5b7b09 No.14889294
>>14889287
They're all probably various varieties of trumpets.
fc9cfe No.14889302
>>14889287
please do not badmouth the cicadas, thanks in advance :^)
7cdead No.14889314
>>14889287
Beta Flygon might look more like the insect it's based off of.
fc9cfe No.14889483
>>14889314
>based off of.
*based off
7cdead No.14889500
>>14889483
English is not my first language.
ec60fb No.14889545
>>14889500
No anon is a retard "based off of" and "based off" are both grammatically correct with the former removing more ambiguity. One is more high effort than the other but not unusual at all.
202eb3 No.14889561
>>14889114
>Dabbing is a forced meme
So? So are soyboys.
2e0939 No.14889569
Some beta Pokemon wound up being reworked for others (Blaziken originally looked like Latias). So stuff you like here might get used.
Except for the designs becoming even more mascot/merchandise focused (giant heads and bodies that couldn't fit organs in them)
ec60fb No.14889590
>>14889569
>pokemon bodies not being able to fit organs
Perish the thought, how will my pokemon be able to shoot water hard enough to cut steel without any organs! Or how would my Marcago survive when he's the tempature of the surface of the sun!
0ed60b No.14889591
>>14887731
>that cute little heart
Grass/Fairy friendship evolution?
1c9d23 No.14889600
>>14889591
Considering fairy wouldn't exist until 4 gens later, no.
d85828 No.14889603
>>14889561
>Dabbing is a stupid forced meme created by a celebrity that only got popular because a celebrity made it
>Soyboys is a meme that had grass roots on the internet and came from a natural place of someone pointing out that easily cucked men make a specific expression a lot in selfies
Soyboys had a natural origin. It's not forced. Dabbing was something made up by a viral marketing exec, it's forced.
>>14889590
Let's not forget the Unown who are anatomically impossible yet make their debut in Gold/Silver.
fc9cfe No.14889604
>>14889591
would you befriend a Tangela
fc9cfe No.14889609
>>14889603
>Let's not forget the Unown who are anatomically impossible
They probably operate on a whole different level of physics
202eb3 No.14889622
>>14889603
>Soyboys had a natural origin.
Yeah, on 4chan you nigger.
ec60fb No.14889629
>>14889622
>because a meme came from a different website it's forced
202eb3 No.14889637
>>14889629
Fuck I meant soyjacks, not soyboys.
And yes it's forced, it was spammed like fuck when it was first introduced, you're a newfag if you don't remember that.
bf7a42 No.14889653
>>14889637
Largely due to Mark making them ban on sight everywhere for a good while, prompted shitposters to take the piss out of him.
74b4d8 No.14889654
>>14889603
>images spammed to hell
>not forced
Unless you're talking about soyboys before it was coopted by console war bullshit, you're wrong.
ec60fb No.14889663
>>14889637
Oh okay, so if you're talking about soywojacks yes they were forced here specifically as in this board but it isn't in and of itself a forced meme. You'll tend to notice that if a meme catches on there tends to be shit tons of because, you now, people like the meme. I will say it is a shitty meme but not forced. Now, if you want epidomy of forced memes.
0cb2b1 No.14889684
>>14889604
I would dick that so hard
a3bec7 No.14889722
>>14889663
I'm guessing you haven't even seen that episode in question? Of course not.
Rick is a genius. Everything that happens is because of his massive intellect and knowledge of infinite parallel universes. He knew they'd interrupt his pickle transformation and used it as a ruse to avoid therapy. While in this form he was able to build a body and infiltrate a holding facility, so he could befriend a mercenary to save him much much later.
The therapy session and pickle were inconsequential, they were only a means to an ends.
fc9cfe No.14889731
>>14889684
even with her dark skin?
3df461 No.14889735
>>14887843
Oh I get it, it's like a counterpart to Pikachu. Pikachu is the mouse, this thing is the cat.
66a8fd No.14889777
>>14889731
especially because of that
fc9cfe No.14889786
>>14889777
don't let uncle /pol/ hear that!
494ef3 No.14889800
>>14887843
A good boy.
A handsome boy.
33e1e1 No.14889848
>>14887843
Beta Spheal/Littleo/Shynx probably.
fc9cfe No.14889862
so, do we have types for these unused monsters?
25eac1 No.14889881
>>14889862
For the most part. Baby Vulpix is listed as being Water type so some of them are placeholders but we now know Umbreon was originally going to be Poison type.
Which makes these Pokedex entries make more sense now
0abdce No.14889890
>>14889881
From the way things are the typing was most likely placeholders, like how most of them have nidoran male's cry
25eac1 No.14889900
>>14889890
The game data also says that you get Umbreon from using something called a "Poison Stone" on Eevee
53da25 No.14889924
>>14887843
Cute as fuck is what it is.
84688c No.14889930
>>14887843
I like it. Its cute, its tough its better than all the other replacement pikachus combined.
0abdce No.14889995
>>14889900
data also points to something called a heart stone. Seems happiness and day cycles aren't even a thing at this point
04bdf5 No.14890258
>>14888161
They've been wanting to make a deer/moose/antlered creature since Gen 1. I'd call you a faggot but this wasn't common knowledge until a couple weeks ago. For the record, this is a composite of a couple of shots from the Satoshi Tajiri manga.
>>14888305
>>14888688
I just want you to know that it's a pun based off deer scare (basically like a scarecrow, something that spooks animals). It might not make it better but I hope it makes sense.
8612ca No.14890270
>>14887691
>So now that the dust has settled
>dust
>settling
>on /v/
b357e6 No.14890282
None of those beta pokemon are worth using, they look way too weird. Cleffa and Noctowl actually look like animals instead of video game monsters, beta Heracross was just a shitty Pinsir without a face, Delibird and Murkrow wear ACTUAL HATS Honchkrow is the only one that can pull it off, I don't know what the fuck is up with that Elekid, Remoraid is just a fucking gun, and there's no reason for Octillery to have armor. Of all of these, the only one that would benefit from the change would be Octillery, even if it doesn't make sense.
89d1e1 No.14890287
>>14890258
>a real elephant mon thats not some tiny little wheel turd
Fuck why couldnt we have this?
89d1e1 No.14890296
>>14890282
>implying any of that is a problem considering how many pokemon look like theyre wearing clothes or the fact that the current meta is full of weirdos
25eac1 No.14890299
>>14890287
>not liking Donphan
>>14890282
Shit taste friend, Murkrow still wears a hat anyways with brim and all. Cleffa doesn't look like any animal I know, and the actual design for Noctowl looks more like a regular owl since it has two legs instead of Beta Noctowl's one leg.
d42996 No.14890302
>>14887843
maybe inspiration for shinx line and glameow line
fits with the narrative of Gen 4 using a ton of designs that were canned in earlier gens
ec60fb No.14890304
>>14890282
>beta Noctowl looks like more of an Owl than the real one
wut
1c9d23 No.14890306
f0ff85 No.14890308
>>14890258
You mean 56? Looks far less like a normal cartoon animal than Stantler does. Plus look at 68. The anchor shark has been there too.
b357e6 No.14890317
>>14890299
It could be argued that it's just some weird, fucked up feathers shaped like a hat. I cannot see how feathers would turn into a fucking wizard hat. The problem with beta Cleffa is that it plays up the star design way too hard to the point where it's just a little pink star, which wouldn't make sense for it to lose those attributes as it grew. Cleffa is much more subtle about it than its beta version and the same goes for Murkrow.
>>14890304
I said Cleffa and Noctowl, not their beta versions.
25eac1 No.14890324
>>14890317
Neither beta cleffa or actual cleffa look like real life animals
04bdf5 No.14890331
>>14890308
It's more of a harpoon in Gen 1. You could probably make a fangame with nothing but cut Pokemon at this point.
b357e6 No.14890334
>>14890324
You're missing the point, actual Cleffa looks more like an animal than beta Cleffa because the beta version plays up the star angle way too fucking hard. Please read before responding.
25eac1 No.14890346
>>14890334
>the beta version plays up the star angle way too fucking hard.
I like it for that reason, it makes it look more like a space alien (which it is)
As it evolves into Clefairy and Celfable it starts to "blend in" more with life on the planet. I think that's cool.
d85828 No.14890361
>>14890304
Beat Noctowl fits more in-line with real owls. Most of them don't have that clear separation of neck and body that the official Noctowl has.
ec60fb No.14890364
>>14890334
>things looking more like generic animals is a good thing
I'm also going to tell you a secret, if multiple people are reading your post wrong, you probably fucked up your sentence making it make no sense, so it's actually your fault
2e0939 No.14890402
>>14887843
>>14889800
>>14889816
> Raigah: Electric
> 0'08" - 1'00" (0.2 m - 0.3 m)
> Static/Run Away
> It's cuteness and playful nature would make it an ideal pet, however it cannot control its electricity when excited. Sparks fly as it runs, rolls, and plays.
> Due to it often tripping over its underdeveloped feet, Raigah tumble and roll around effortlessly while running. It has control over where it goes, except stopping quickly.
> Raigao: Elec/Fairy
> 6'03" - 6'11" (1.9 m - 2.1 m)
> Static/Huge Power
> It's near-oblivious to aggression and thinks even the most ferocious foe wants to play with it. Its immense strength means even a play-bite can go through solid steel.
> Ancient warriors wore special armor while riding it, to electrocute anyone who struck them. Art and texts describe how Raigao could barrel through fortress walls with no effort.
If people like it, I could see it being made official and reworked into a Tasmanian devil (stripped, big fangs etc). They're some rodent-esque thing like a capybara right?
Personally I hope not. Like the Sun/Moon starters fake leaks compared to the official ones, the fans can outdo the official devs. And as I mentioned earlier, it'd be redesigned with all the shit we now hate, and lose the charm of the original.
fc9cfe No.14890412
>>14890282
we posting owls now?
7cdead No.14890422
>>14890412
Owls are cute. Though Barn Owls look like ayyys.
25eac1 No.14890432
>>14890422
Barn Owls are the cutest
fc9cfe No.14890443
>>14890422
Don't upset the barn owls, they'll REEEEEE at you
74b4d8 No.14890462
>>14890299
I still hate that they retcon'd Murkrow from being a witch crow to mafia cronies.
ec60fb No.14890464
>>14890422
>>14890432
Whenever barn owls are mentioned I always remember Owl Hitler wanting to exterminate all other types of owls in these shitty okay books.
3df461 No.14890478
>>14890422
>>14890442
>Owls are actually genetically altered ayys placed on earth to assess the planet's suitablilty for colonization
>>14890443
>These distress signals are used to contact the homeworld for suport, all abductees are actually just people who fucked with owls
Reality has the deepest lore.
7cdead No.14890479
>>14890462
A Spanish mafia crow at that.
7cdead No.14890484
>>14890478
>Pokemon makes another ayyy pokemon
>It's based off barn owls
2e0939 No.14890486
>>14890442
Are there any owls near Roswell?
746672 No.14890526
>>14890486
I don't know if there are any owls near Roswell but the general explanation for the Kelly-Hopkinsville Encounter, a popular "alien encounter", was some drunks freaking out over some Great Horned Owls.
Additionally, the eyewitness description of the Hopkinsville Goblin is the basis for the Pokemon, Sableye.
746672 No.14890529
68df23 No.14890543
>Remoraid is a literal gun, turns into artillery
>Heracross looks like a Pinsir evolution
These still seem legit
7263bd No.14890573
>>14889314
>wasn't a bug/dragon
I'll never understand why
7cdead No.14890577
>>14890573
It could have been bug/ground then bug/dragon. I don't get why they didn't go that route as Flygon is just a huge fucking insect.
fc9cfe No.14890580
>>14890573
because then it wouldn't be immune to sandstorms
7cdead No.14890586
>>14890580
You got a point there. Flygon, the bug that isn't a bug type. Go figure.
fc9cfe No.14890589
>>14890577
maybe there'll be a regional bug/dragon variant, with the bug trapinch waiting inside rock crevasses innawoods instead of sand pits
7cdead No.14890593
>>14890589
Be cool to see new regional variants. Would suck if it was a one time thing with Alola.
7263bd No.14890595
>>14890589
then it'd just be a rock/dragon
We all know that Game Freak is the company of missed opportunities and bad decisions
7cdead No.14890607
>>14890595
>We all know that Game Freak is the company of missed opportunities and bad decisions
Sadly true. They are more likley to give Yanmega a dragon variant than Flygon an bug one.
fc9cfe No.14890974
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f879bd No.14891354
>>14888797
Dat gud shit:
The entire Fire Starter Line
Rayleep
Numpuff
Anchorage
Bomseaker
Borygon2
Preddy gud:
Grotess
Tuhedd
Rinring
BazingaOctillery
Madame
Likk
Preddy Shid tbh:
The rest
d44542 No.14891390
>>14887776
Oh fug ids a ribboff :DDDDD
8e6065 No.14891397
>>14888797
I love pretty much all the beta ones - most, if not all, are better than the final design too.
Gonna be a blast to play this when the English translation is ready.
3df461 No.14891474
>>14891354
>gud
>shid
>tbh
When did we stop reminding people that ironic shitposting is still shitposting? This niggerspeak is fucking everywhere now.
Unless you weren't being ironic in which case please fuck off forever.
e0cb01 No.14891477
>>14890974
>black character
>black background
>anthro
e0596c No.14897201
>>14887776
pon de lion didn't exist until 2003.
b7baa0 No.14897237
>>14890607
>>14890589
>>14890586
>>14890577
Shit like this is why we need triple types. Venomoth should be Bug/Poison/Flying. Flygon should be Bug/Ground/Dragon. Rotom forms should keep Ghost. And then Dhelmise could be Ghost/Water/Grass and keep Steelworker.
fc9cfe No.14897291
>>14897237
>triple types
no, thank you
ed684f No.14897368
>>14887691
These 3, Jiangshi panda and the retarded electric tiger ball.
b9aa52 No.14897383
>>14897291
There's going to be held items that induce triple-typing in generation 8 or 9. I'm almost certain of it.
ed684f No.14897393
>>14897383
I was pretty sure it was gonna be an ability.
b9aa52 No.14897444
>>14897393
Maybe, but that's way too exclusive. Look at Megas and Z-Moves.
Megas are like a 4th evolution in some cases, but it was disliked because it was exclusive to a very small handful of pokemon. Z-Moves are like a 5th move, either an extra boost or a nuke button that everyone can use.
Plenty of items are already like 2nd abilities, now we need a 3rd-type item. We have multiple moves that can alter the target's type already, so the games can handle triple or even quadruple typing as it is.
ed684f No.14897463
>>14897444
> Look at Megas and Z-Moves.
576be6 No.14898178
>>14898122
They should use it.
12d4e8 No.14898316
>>14887712
wait a minute that polytoad
0b8e29 No.14898482
Girafarig and Tangela got robbed.
0abdce No.14898705
14a1e4 No.14898764
All of those except Cleffa are objectively worse.
14a1e4 No.14898787
>>14898718
>the legendary dogs
Oh fuck those are terrible.
c11460 No.14898789
In case shit gets taken down, here's an image archive of the roms. If you open this png with 7zip, you should be able to extract all the roms and a short readme from it.
a3bec7 No.14899808
>>14898760
That's not porn, why did you spoiler it? Reported.
b7a11b No.14899913
>>14897383
Torterra mega evolution that changes him from an earth/grass continent tortoise to an earth/grass/water world tortoise is what I'm hoping for
a3bec7 No.14899945
>>14898789
Holy shit, every time I try to save this image in Chrome, it strips the extra data and the finished download is only 14 kb, instead of 1.52 mb
eb4746 No.14900138
>>14899945
>using google botnet
only have yourself to blame tbh
a3bec7 No.14900172
>>14900138
>/v/ - Everything I don't like is a botnet!
>>>/g/
7b2643 No.14900199
Dumb nigger here, I got the roms, but I'm having trouble getting them to run. What's the best Gameboy emulator to play this demo? Mgba?
eb4746 No.14900207
>>14900172
>getting assblasted because someone called you out for using a literal fucking botnet
Reddit is more your pace, lad.
a3bec7 No.14900224
>>14900207
>Anon talks shit
>Shut him down, who does he think he or she is disrespecing me
>Hurr Durr Reddit assblasted
No, *you* leave
70d710 No.14900251
>>14900224
>he or she
You really don't belong here do you?
eb4746 No.14900256
>>14900224
wew laddie we got a live one here
ec60fb No.14900263
>>14899945
>>14900172
>>14900224
>he or she
>uses chrome
>tries to justify using chrome
33e1e1 No.14900270
>>14900224
Stop your bait before you get banned.
447aea No.14900276
>>14900224
Are you a trannie? You fucking type like one.
e186ed No.14900277
>>14900224
>he or she
no, anon, you are the cancer
bd1aa5 No.14900291
>>14899945
>>14900224
Google is 'protecting' you by automatically scanning it, seeing that there's a zip file embedded, and blocking the download.
Hope you enjoy your crippled internet.
ec60fb No.14900294
>reddit fag using "him or her" probably posted this unironically >>14889722
>didn't know Delibird was a nod to Santa Claus >>14887791
Sounds like a braindead third worlder too
730dde No.14900299
>>14900224
You're a retard
04bdf5 No.14900304
>>14900224
I want to be part of the lynch mob too, even though the reason I don't use Chrome is because it runs a billion tiny processes that I don't understand instead of a big bloated one like Firefox. At least I know when memory is leaking now.
447aea No.14900307
>>14900172
>Uses Chrome.
>Defends Chrome.
7b2643 No.14900318
Alright, I think I found a workaround; for whatever reason I haven't got the TCRF downloads work, but I downloaded from another forum that seems to work.
>>14900224
>botnet cuck
>he or she
kys unironically
e0f35f No.14900470
fucking hell I hate it when there's a derail
33e1e1 No.14900542
>>14900470
This image defeats the point of the original comedic intentions of the kirby edit. It should say "Pokemon Ultra FUCKING PISSED" or something along those lines.
5cd2de No.14900566
>>14900542
You're right, but it could be worse
b7baa0 No.14900570
>>14897291
You have no real reason to oppose them.
f4832e No.14900572
>>14900542
*Mimikyu's Z-Pissed Off
33e1e1 No.14900577
>>14900572
Good enough yeah, even if not a videogame title.
923a24 No.14900581
>>14887712
That kitten meowth is pretty cute. They should've used it.
5bc6d2 No.14900583
>>14900570
It makes the mechanics more complicated without actually making it more interesting, and is straight a straight buff for most sets with more/better resistances, bonus immunities, and extra STAB moves. It's the sort of thing you'd only see on complete shitmons.
b7baa0 No.14900593
>>14900583
What's wrong with added complexity? How is it not more interesting? What would be interesting instead? How is adding weaknesses alongside strengths a straight buff?
5cd2de No.14900597
>>14900593
>How is adding weaknesses alongside strengths a straight buff?
Read the post, it was literally just explained to you.
b7baa0 No.14900602
>>14900597
So no, it wasn't. Thanks for confirming.
5cd2de No.14900606
>>14900602
Extra STAB. Bonus immunities, More resistances than weaknesses. Fucking christ you're a retard.
f4832e No.14900608
>>14900606
Triple typings are retarded because while 2 different types can have almost perfect coverage, 3 types are basically guaranteed to, making attackers extremely strong by letting them have 3 high power buttons. It also makes move choosing an even more braindead process as you basically have 3 of your slots reserved by default.
b7baa0 No.14900615
>>14900606
>More resistances than weaknesses.
What's your justification for thinking this? Do you know what types are, you fucking lunatic?
5cd2de No.14900623
>>14900615
>What's your justification for thinking this?
The fact that there are more red and black things than red things here.
NECK YOURSELF
6f9838 No.14900625
i liked the small screamingone, that one had potential for awesome adventures
b7baa0 No.14900633
>>14900623
69 red and black. 51 green. And your point is what? How about you answer the other questions you've dodged? What's wrong with added complexity? How is it not more interesting? What would be interesting instead?
04bdf5 No.14900639
>>14900633
Inverse Room would be a much better idea. As a limited thing, it changes the battles briefly, buffs certain types, and generally changes how the game is played.
5cd2de No.14900650
>>14900633
>questions dodged
We've already established you're a goddamn idiot, so I need to take it one step at a time so you can't weasel your way out. That's exactly what you're doing now. You want me to move onto something else instead of forcing you to admit you're wrong about something. You understand that it'd give an extra STAB, meaning perfect STAB coverage to all triple types. You understand that overall, type resistances and immunities outweigh weaknesses. This is a straight buff for all attackers.
cb7779 No.14900653
>>14900172
Did you just try to link to the 4chan board?
11b940 No.14900669
>>14900172
>>14900653
this,
NOBODY USES /g/ HERE
04bdf5 No.14900672
>>14900653
>>14900653
Really, you guys are slow, and responding to obvious bait. Then again you somehow missed it so either it's been so long you've forgotten or you're retarded.
04bdf5 No.14900690
>>14900676
Why respond to shitposting at all? Doesn't that just drag the quality of the board down?
ddc2fc No.14900778
>>14887712
Even after 20 years it's surprising that those babies haven't been reused.
>>14887843
>>14888849
Could it's ball like shape make it a pun on ball lightning as well?
b7baa0 No.14900787
>>14900650
>lol u dum i say so i win now lol everything u say is wrong
Okay, this isn’t reddit. Either kill yourself or take your narcissistic autism over there.
>lol i force u admit u wrong
I'm still asking questions about why the idea is supposedly bad, and you're not coming up with anything. Additional STAB and effectiveness is balanced by weaknesses. It can be particularly balanced by EXPLICITLY STACKING 4X AND 8X WEAKNESSES and not giving a third typing where it isn't needed. You, however, lack the critical thinking inborn in all white people and apparently cannot plan for the future, so this needed to be EXPLAINED TO YOU for some reason.
>You understand that it'd give an extra STAB, meaning perfect STAB coverage to all triple types.
See above.
>You understand that overall, type resistances and immunities outweigh weaknesses.
See above.
>This is a straight buff for all attackers.
And you were proven wrong.
What's wrong with added complexity? How is it not more interesting? What would be interesting instead?
e0f35f No.14900790
>>14900690
>Doesn't that just drag the quality of the board down?
yes
b7baa0 No.14900792
>>14900676
We’ll never get season 3, will we. It's just too late now.
f4832e No.14900841
>>14900787
>Additional STAB and effectiveness is balanced by weaknesses.
t. has never played pokemon before
5cd2de No.14900877
>>14900787
>go back to reddit
I have made this very simple for you. Perfect STAB coverage and stacking extra resistances/immunities is a buff. If you're going to just screech repeatedly, it's not worth going into everything else.
b7baa0 No.14900887
>>14900841
So no argument, then.
>>14900877
>Perfect STAB coverage
You're inventing this.
>and stacking extra resistances/immunities
And this was addressed.
>If you're going to just screech repeatedly, it's not worth going into everything else.
And you were proven wrong.
What's wrong with added complexity? How is it not more interesting? What would be interesting instead?
ec60fb No.14900892
>>14900787
>Additional STAB and effectiveness is balanced by weaknesses.
There is no defensive equivalent of STAB, there is no STDB to make it so having more types widens defensive options. The mere existence of STAB only existing on the offensive side of the spectrum makes it so that the more types a pokemon has, the more coverage it can hit with, and can hit with very very hard. It would push the entire meta into an even more hyper offensive focus.
f4832e No.14900906
>>14900887
I honestly don't even need one. Just look at all the insanely strong offensive pokemon, and see if they're balanced by their weaknesses at all? Greninja is water/dark, which gives it 5 weaknesses to common types, how does that stop him? Kartana has a 4x weakness to fire, but can still tear through unprepared teams almost single handely after a buff. Landorus-T has been the most used mon for a few gens now and it has a 4x weakness to ice while also being weak to the extremely common water type.
04bdf5 No.14900910
>>14900887
>What's wrong with added complexity?
When it removes depth or makes things more complicated than needed.
>How is it not more interesting?
Because just adding a new type doesn't make it more interesting, in fact that makes things more boring because Pokemon would be expected to do more.
>What would be interesting instead?
I said, Inverse Room as a field effect would be much better.
ec60fb No.14900914
>>14900887
>>Perfect STAB coverage
>You're inventing this.
It already existed, Bolt Beam hit everything for neutral damage Gen 1 and 2. Perfect Stab coverage does not mean hits everything super effective, it means it hits everything neutral and effective.
4d4b72 No.14900930
I honestly like gondolygon
04bdf5 No.14900953
>>14900930
If Porygon 2β is ever in a fangame or hack, the Pokedex entry better say it was an early development prototype that was canceled, but leaked on to the internet and finished by hackers.
4d4b72 No.14900968
>>14900953
That or just "Ebin :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"
ca6392 No.14900970
>>14900953
I'm tempted to make rom-hack.
ec60fb No.14900976
>use https://pokemondb.net/tools/type-coverage to check coverage
>ice/electric hits everything but 7 fucking pokemon neutral and super effective
>add fire and you hit everything but fucking Heat Rotom neutral and super effective
This is why an Electric/Ice pokemon doesn't exist, let alone triple types.
d85828 No.14900979
>>14900970
Why not go the extra step and just make your own monster collecting RPG? All the cool kids are doing it
69c1cb No.14900981
>>14900787
>EXPLICITLY STACKING 4X AND 8X WEAKNESSES
Landorus-t has a 4x ice weakness and it's destroying OU. Ferrothorn has a 4x weakness. It turns out that the defensive bonuses these types have vastly outweights a weakness to a single type. Pinsir-mega is 4x weak to rock. Scizor/mega is 4x weak to fire. Tyranitar is 4x weak to fighting. Swampert-mega is 4x weak to grass, pelliper is 4x weak to electric. Magnezone and heat tranny is 4x weak to ground. Kartana 31 base SpD and a 4x weakness to fire. It means nothing.
A bunch of resistances and a single 4x or 8x weakness is a buff
6c82b7 No.14900982
I really hope this doesn't get copyright dicked.
f4832e No.14900983
>>14900976
>his is why an Electric/Ice pokemon doesn't exist
ed8342 No.14900987
>>14900930
>not Porygondola
You had one job.
d85828 No.14900990
>>14900982
It's too late for that. It's already too widespread. The only thing they can do now is accept defeat.
ca6392 No.14900991
>>14900979
Laziness, also quite a few of the betamon look nice.
ec60fb No.14900992
>>14900983
Ah shit, I forgot the Rotom freeze got re-typed after Gen IV
6c82b7 No.14900993
>>14900990
You gotta believe!
d85828 No.14901001
>>14900987
>Not Borygondola
I'm disappointed in you
eb4746 No.14901007
>>14900970
same tbh
if i weren't already working on one right now i might actually make this playable
3e617b No.14901009
>>14900968
>Not it being a description that it likes to walk and observe the strange organic world it now lives in.
>Could also be considered the one Pokemon that never so much as speaks its name due to a glitch in the upgrade evolving it from Porygon to Porygondola(2).
04bdf5 No.14901014
>>14900970
>>14901007
Honestly I kind of want to see the game completed, and as soon as research is done on it I bet somebody will take up the challenge. I know Gen 1 has been disassembled, and I'm pretty sure Gen 2 has been too, so how hard can it be to disassemble a game that's in between the two of them. I mentioned earlier that it would also be cool to see some cut Gen 1 mons, but given that 256 is a pretty hard limit for the GB games, I doubt we can fit them in a hack.
>>14900992
I'm so glad I requested that picture, and whatever anon drew it is a treasure.
ec60fb No.14901033
>>14901014
>given that 256 is a pretty hard limit for the GB games, I doubt we can fit them in a hack.
I forgot who did it or how, but that limit was overcome by some faggot who wanted to mod in Mega evolutions in Crystal. It's no longer a concern although it does make it more difficult to make the romhack.
6c82b7 No.14901038
>>14901033
Nice kakyoin
rero rero
ca6392 No.14901047
Honestly whats weird's me out is that beta Chikorita didn't even make it to this point.
It was promoted with other two beta starters and I swear there were screen shots of it in a space-world demo…
04bdf5 No.14901054
>>14901047
You do realize that's not official art and is just an artist's rendering of what they saw in the demo, right? Like all those really shitty drawings of Gen 2 mons from some magazine, I forget.
ca6392 No.14901069
>>14901054
Thats a weird way to draw Chikorita, how did the ears come about? and why is it a slug…
Sounds about the quality of those magazine images, though i can't even find where those images are from at this point so i can't confirm it.
04bdf5 No.14901073
>>14901033
I wish to know more, I can't seem to find any good info on this achievement.
ca6392 No.14901089
>>14901069
Actually considering the weird design of Kurusu and Honoguma, could these be earlier designs?
ec60fb No.14901094
>>14901073
I know that the 3.0 release of Polished Crystal will have more than that, because that's how I found out.
04bdf5 No.14901095
>>14901089
I dunno, Ted Cruz there looks the same pretty much, and Marril and Girafarig look pretty much the same too, so I really just think they somehow completely messed up on Chicorita for whatever reason. I've also seen a little art of Ledyba that looked messed up.
ca6392 No.14901104
>>14901095
Kurusu has horns and and a belly patch.
Honoguma lacks the patches on it and has pichu ears and has a tail that looks like its ears.
This mystery artwork has details that don't exist on the sprite and misses obvious details, the person who drew was either retarded or this was for a different design.
04bdf5 No.14901122
>>14901104
Try drawing a Pokemon from memory, no references. Let's see how this turns out.
04bdf5 No.14901140
>>14901110
Oh, right, Shanty. I know of that guy, and as a matter of fact I think I saw that thread before. Kinda odd, but good to know, useful resource for anybody wanting to get weird with GB Pokemon hacks, which you definitely should it's a great aesthetic.
>>14901130
Tentaqul is finally real, why does meme magic only work with fucking frogs.
ca6392 No.14901150
Why doesn't anyone ever note where they got images?
The only source for the kurusu and such artwork was;
>might be fan art
>>14901122
Pikaflare doesn't look anything like Honoguma.
Kurusu has about two notable details on it and none of them managed to make it on to the image.
04bdf5 No.14901185
>>14901150
Look, the best way we can solve this problem is probably this picture. Those moonrunes probably hold an important secret, or at least an explanation of what these drawings are.
ca6392 No.14901207
>>14901185
I think i found what the images looked like originally, just the image with the name above.
Also here's some more images that seem to be from the same place as the kurusu and co art.
ca6392 No.14901214
>>14901207
Yep i think I found what the original image they came from looks like.
04bdf5 No.14901227
>>14901214
Right. These Pokemon were all seen in the demo right? As a matter of fact it's telling that they see Marill there while beta Hoppip is missing, as Marill was exclusive to the Silver demo while Hoppip is exclusive to Gold and footage of it only surfaced recently. Girafarig is looking pretty jank there too, so it probably really is just bad memory. The only big question is if we see beta Quilfish in the demo anywhere. We do see Ledyba, right?
ca6392 No.14901264
>>14901227
I haven't played through the demo.
I'll play through it for a bit.
First Area: Pidgy, Ratatta, Maril, Hoot-Hoot
Second Area: Caterpie, Metapod, Ladyba, Maril, Hoot-Hoot (Trainer: Venonat)(Trainer 2: Oddish) (Trainer 3: Qwifish)
I'm too lazy to finish but Girafirig is probably there later in the demo.
647240 No.14901302
>>14898718
Imagine how much porn Tangela's beta evo would have if it was real?
>>14897237
How about Pokemon can get all their abilities at once so Flygon can get sand veil and levitate? It wouldn't be that hard to balance and the ability combos would open up new opportunities for pokemon. Shit like Huge Power is probably good enough that pokemon possessing it would get no second ability or a useless one though.
ca6392 No.14901308
>>14901302
>multiple abilities
Maybe… as long as the second ability isn't overly strong i guess, and is always locked in.
Also;
>Levitate Heatproof Brozong
yes
730dde No.14901314
>>14901185
>apparently a minigame appears before the title and the opening movie changes
and
>i believe this is what ledyba looked like. and I'm the most afraid of ladybugs too
So yeah, at the very least we can confirm that the artist of that pic couldn't quite remember what the hell any of the pokemon looked like, not that anyone can blame him
923a24 No.14901676
>>14900291
>try Firefox
>stripped
>try fucking jank ass old IE
>stripped
Alright, what browser should I be using, anon, because everything seems to strip the extra data.
923a24 No.14901698
>>14901676
Nevermind, figured it out myself
74739d No.14901705
>>14887776
How did it take a bite of the donut? it's nowhere near it's mouth.
1477b1 No.14901753
Slowkingless Shellder "Turban" always has these 3 level up moves from the start.
The 1st one is probably Barrier? Reflect? Light Screen? I dunno.
The 2nd one is Body Slam and the 3rd one is Water Gun.
3c08bd No.14901754
>>14900291
It sounds more like he Saved Image As rather than clicking on the download link.
28224a No.14903966
>>14901302
>Imagine how much porn Tangela's beta evo would have if it was real?
A lot, considering it DOES something for folks.
92f2c9 No.14904122
>>14898718
I really want to waste time localizing these names but I'm gonna leave that to someone else.
I will say that norowara would obviously need to be named something like 'Voodoll" tho
e186ed No.14904631
>>14898787
yeah glad they did a redo. crystal wouldn't be the same game with that sheep dog-looking thing.
that electric tiger looks cool though.
c703da No.14904650
>>14898122
>>14898178
Could easily be remade into a baby stage that will only be born from a Porygon egg if its parent is holding the "P-Baby Expansion Pack", but if no one wants to break the 3 stage tradition and/or keep Porygon 2 around, then just make it an alternate evo for Porygon if its traded while holding a shitty "Doughnut DLC".
5589dd No.14904667
>>14904631
>sheepdog
>not realizing its a beautiful, silky, feminine hair
You fucking queers I swear.
04bdf5 No.14904681
>>14904650
I'm still going with
>>14900953
because I enjoy, uh, what literary device would this be?
e186ed No.14904687
>>14904667
none of that is true. it looks dumpy as shit
bf5e27 No.14904720
>>14897444
>Megas and Z-Moves
c703da No.14904747
>>14904687
>not a single strand of hair outside of the top of its head and tail
>no sign of clumps of lumpy fur anywhere like a sheepdog
>thin limbs and body
>has visible upright ears like wolves and dog breeds with similar ears
<ITS A SHEEPDOG
>being a blind nigger
c703da No.14904759
>>14904681
But what would be the held item that triggers the evo?
04bdf5 No.14904773
>>14904759
Obviously "Leaked Demo ROM". Or something of that nature.
071f7a No.14904795
The beta dogs look like they hired fucking deviantart to do the art
bf5e27 No.14904813
>>14890317
>a wizard's hat is going too far!
>but a fedora/witch's hat is perfectly acceptable
>(3)
e186ed No.14904903
>>14904747
>blind
hey, you're the one who insisted it looked good
04bdf5 No.14905290
Looks like somebody actually did disassemble it.
https://github.com/pret/pokegold-spaceworld
Also, somebody made a hack with mostly fixed map collision apparently.
https://mega.nz/#!O9RxUR5B!3Pnd1pk_E1JLlcWUfzvOO-3k41q_gHuXXE2qZeO3W68
Could be alright, I don't think they restored encounters or anything worthwhile though.
2fc46e No.14911436
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14887808
>>14887826
>>14887838
It's a tail. I dunno if it has any nerves in it and it pretty much behaves like limp cloth, so it carries food in it. I could only find a decent clip in taco.