818f91 No.14866564
Weigh anchor and heave to. There's no paying for this game now.
It releases sometime tomorrow. I don't know whether it has any DRM beyond Steam itself, but hopefully it get cracked quickly enough that even the most impatient fags have no excuse to give the devs money.
Details here: https://steamcommunity.com/games/487720/announcements/detail/1649886530632413268
To summarize what's gone on:
>Game advertises itself as being set in an ultra-brutal, no-holds-barred, sex-and-gore Hell
>Devs run a Kickstarter to get funding for the game, and list themselves as their own publisher on PC, but sign on with a different publisher for consoles
>Some content must be censored for the console releases since an AO rating won't fly with MS and Sony
>Devs promise (including on the Kikestarter page where they were collecting money) that the PC version will get a patch to restore all of the censored content
>Ten days before release, the release date gets pushed back by a month because they "are facing last steps [...] to support every player- no matter which platform"
>A couple days before release, rumors begin to fly that the patch is cancelled, with the only source being a sketchy D|scord conversation.
>Today, the day before release, the devs finally make an official statement that the patch is cancelled, and every player, no matter which platform, gets the same game
>They claim that if they did release it, even through unofficial channels, the game would be "banned" and they would be sued and would be forced to close down (but refuse to say on what grounds or by whom, or why they apparently only read their contract so close to release)
>They claim that only a few seconds of content is censored, expecting customers to still trust them after so blatantly lying, and try to say that there's no issue with censorship if it's only a little censored
>This claim contradicts their official Facebook, which said female genitals (but not male for some reason...) had also been censored, along with the sex scenes the Steam post claims are still intact
>They also refuse to explain what was in those those few seconds that needed to be removed compared to everything else they claim made it in the game, until they upload videos after release (which they're apparently allowed to do just fine, despite how utterly impossible they say a patch would be)
Previous thread >>14860750
32b8f9 No.14866624
Maybe someone could try to figure out what is the legal grounds of "we publish your game but if you do this we have the power to shut your entire studio down" assuming is not just by draining all their money with lawsuits.
f64236 No.14866653
>>14866624
They're self-publishing on the PC version, so whatever heat a publisher would have to face in this situation is going straight to Madmind.
>legal grounds
That's what I was saying in the last thread, the situation doesn't make sense unless there's some content depicted in those endings that's straight up illegal to show, and even then it doesn't make sense why they'd be allowed to show it in a video.
818f91 No.14866670
>>14866653
The only thing I can imagine is that there was some clause in the contracts with the console publisher to ensure the game was the same across platforms.
e4fcfb No.14866704
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14866564
>female genitals (but not male for some reason…) had also been censored
Queers, anon. It's because Cultural Marxists have a cross-section with queers who have cross-over with pederasts who have a huge cross-over with liberal politicians and activists which crosses back to Cultural Marxism.
As for the game, didn't this thing have an ultra edge moment where some hobo in "Hell" smashes a screaming baby with a rock? It's pure Marxist Jewery. Why did you ever care?
72efac No.14866710
>>14866564
>sued
By who? The Euros are more worried about muh violence and Burgers don't tend to give a shit as long as they don't Hit AO or release shit on a patch so steam doesn't get flak.
f27ea5 No.14866712
>>14866564
>we'll show it on video, we promise
At this point I wouldn't be surprised if they were lying about that, trying to pacify some outcry not working.
f64236 No.14866729
>>14866670
Or maybe there was a promise for platform parity in their Kickstarter goals, but there's no way you can get sued for failing to meet those.
e4fcfb No.14866752
>>14866623
Wow this is Dante's Inferno levels of embarrassing nonsense. I thought this was a horror game. Why is there a kaiju fight and slut goddess?
e4fcfb No.14866761
Wait, why did you delete your post?
e4fcfb No.14866772
They even have Bible quotes
bd96fe No.14866795
9f2e33 No.14866811
Any AAA company would be allowed to do the exact same stuff with the only stipulation being a manufactured controversy. Remember that censorship was always about exerting control over a perceived outside group, never promoting ideological consistency.
6d8dd6 No.14866812
>>14866772
why wouldn't it have bible quotes anon? isn't the game set in hell?
ddf081 No.14866854
>>14866772
>game set in hell has bible quotes
woah this is a big shocking revelation, no one would of expected that, im speechless
9f2e33 No.14866856
>>14866812
Did Doom ever quote the Bible? Honest question.
ddf081 No.14866864
>>14866856
Yes? Doom is fucking chockful of them
f64236 No.14866867
>>14866856
"Rip and tear" is a quote from Leviticus 18:22, yeah
eda8b8 No.14866870
>>14866806
>he doesn't have the webm
>he can't convert it himself
>he can't use hooknose instead of jewtube
I wonder who's behind this newfaggotry
3f2142 No.14866910
Archive of before thread:
https://archive.fo/kgT5G
330425 No.14866957
>>14866564
Now you will never take responsibility.
eda8b8 No.14866969
>>14866957
The kneecap makes the thigh look like a penis.
f507be No.14866981
ok so I've been mulling it over and I think I know what happened
>devs truly did intend to release a day 1 uncensored patch
>however they were going to do this by simply putting everything into the game then the patch would just unlock it
>steam started policing those tactics and forcing all game files on the store to actually be clean
>this was the reason for all the removal threats of VNs
>devs scramble realize oh shit we have to take everything out
>delay the game for a month so they can do this
>upon doing all this work they realize the patch will now have to be massive and include tons of actual programming changes
>they would have to host this patch it would be very expensive
>so they come up with this story about "getting taken out of business for releasing the patch"
>change the story to be that oh well the game really isn't that censored anymore
>grab some random scenes from what was cut to release to show that it was no big deal
4edbc8 No.14866982
Lest we forget all the shills that were defending this game in every thread insisting it wasn't censored. I dedicate this thread to
>>14862243
>>14862221
cucks who insisted the game wasn't censored when it absolutely is. Shills who wish to sell you on the game regardless of the censorship who will lie and cheat their ways to their precious games success.
dc4810 No.14867022
Waiting for an apology >>14862017
72efac No.14867033
>>14866982
Not to defend shills of any kind, but even anons have hope for things to go right once in a while. The only issue, it seems, is being wrong.
5e48f8 No.14867034
>>14866969
Not really. You probably just have dicks on the mind.
4edbc8 No.14867040
>>14867033
Those were posts made after the previous thread here: https://archive.fo/kgT5G
When all evidence is against you, only a fanatic or a shill stands their ground.
818f91 No.14867072
>>14867040
As you can see from that same thread, the evidence wasn't robust until the Steam announcement. At the time those posts were made there was some evidence suggesting the D|scord posts might have been fake. They weren't, but it wasn't unreasonable to suspect they were.
4edbc8 No.14867081
>>14867072
>but it wasn't unreasonable to suspect they were.
It wasn't unreasonable especially with Steam going extremely censorhappy so much that we had numerous stickies on this very board.
Are you trolling?
72efac No.14867082
>>14867040
Fair enough. I wouldn't have minded if it was a fanatic God knows I can't trash talk most of them because even I had hopes for other vidya a warhammer 40k shooter should not have been fucking hard but they were probably shills at the end of the day. It's bullshit they lied, but I would probably pirate the game at some point if I find time. Maybe they'll not be lazy and actually get a patch. This was a game I only noticed at the last second, but I know it sucks for anyone who had actually put money into it hoping for the game given as they said.
f507be No.14867122
>>14867081
But that ended with Steam not censoring anything at least not yet.
>>14867082
I'm fairly certain when they made the announcement the devs had every intention of putting out the patch. Now the question is whether or not was cancelled because someone forced their hand or because it got too hard and they just cannot be bothered anymore.
f507be No.14867151
Is there any examples of developers lying about anything besides the patch?
72efac No.14867180
>>14867122
I'd put money on too lazy myself, but some companies actually put forth the effort to fix Fuck ups and actually be up front with it **too bad the companies that have done that I can think of can be counted on one hand
4edbc8 No.14867184
>>14867122
>But that ended
wrong.
e6b3ed No.14867200
From what i've read the majority of the content is still in there
(the sex,the gore,the sex WITH gore) the only things slightly altered were a couple of the endings,and i'm guessing those including fucking a newborn baby or some shit.
99% of the content is still there,so i still bought it.
Unless of course i play the game and find none of that,in which case you're damn right i'll be pissed.
93d3f3 No.14867213
>>14867200
There was a Doujin where some guy fucks a succubus, the succubus gives birth to a loli, and he fucks the loli.
Imagine if that was one of the endings.
818f91 No.14867222
>>14867200
>believing the official announcement
You're a fucking idiot.
a8c96f No.14867224
>>14867200
You could have jusy typed "I'm an useful idiot and a cocksucker" and saved us all some time.
e6b3ed No.14867239
>>14867222
Like i said,if i play the game and the actual content like that isn't there,i'll be pissed and demand a refund.
>>14867213
Do you have a link to that?
f27ea5 No.14867240
>>14867200
>lets just believe them after they've already lied about a patch
LOL
6e9f63 No.14867243
>>14867200
Please fucking kill yourself anonshill. You don't even have the intelligence to pirate first to test the "game" out first.
2403dd No.14867265
Raise awareness to normalfags and mobilize masses of people to sue the company and to never buy anything from them or anyone related to them ever again.
Fail to do any of it, and yo lose.
e6b3ed No.14867272
>>14867243
Cry about it bitch nigger.
>>14867240
I'll use my eyes to determine
3d5fc7 No.14867283
Why even pretend that there's some kind of just cause or moral righteousness behind this outrage? Anyone who's really pissed about this should just admit they're only mad because there's no demon sex like the underage cumbrains they are.
f507be No.14867291
>>14867184
like I said "at least not yet" I know they are still being reviewed but so far nothing has been taken down except for that game that was taken down weeks beforehand.
>>14867240
Yeah their announcement about the patch on kickstarter said all the same things the announcement today did. That the regularly released version will have everything that has been shown in the trailers. Even then they talk about a bunch of videos that will be released to show the differences to everyone. Now it's just one video.
4c94e0 No.14867295
Are there any actual gameplay videos out there? I know nothing about this game but edgy gore and titties.
bb4a24 No.14867299
That's what you get for supporting kickstarter shit, developers only use kickstarter numbers as their selling point when begging to publishers so they can get the real money while the retards thinks they "supported funding an independent game".
feba20 No.14867309
So archive everything up til now and hold them accountable for their promises. There's no way they didn't know what they got themselves into and there's no way publishers didn't know what kind of game they were making beforehand.
>get funding from kickstarter
>sign up with a publisher anyways
This proves, once again, that you should never support a kickstarter game.
f27ea5 No.14867311
>>14867291
I'd bet they don't even release the comparison video. They're trying to PR themselves out of their shit right now.
4c94e0 No.14867312
>>14867283
It's the dimwitted abortions like you that ruin society.
1. Make promise for money
2. Get money
3. Break promise at absolute last minute
>>HURRR DURRR STOOPID VIRGINS Y SO MAD
e4fcfb No.14867314
>>14866854
>>14866812
>set in "Hell"
Hell is literally just a realm of burning fire. Might as well say this is set in Dante's fan fiction. It's not "Hell" just because you slap the name on it.
The game is set in a Grindhouse or Troma meat world.
And yeah, out of context Bible verses in a game with >>14866860 is laughable. You have to deal with that.
>>14866856
>Did Doom ever quote the Bible?
Not that I recall. Been ages, though. Even still it would be ridiculous but at least Doom is very different from a game that was sold as an unnerving horror puzzler and turns out to be whatever this is culminating in a kaiju demon fight.
6e9f63 No.14867319
>>14867283
<What are principles?
<What's wrong with a bait and switch?
<What's wrong with informing people only 1 fucking day before releasing the game?
<you only care about the sex!
I wonder who can be behind this post?
>>14867272
Nah I'll just sit here and remain smug that I'll never be a corporate slut and white knight for censorship.
e6b3ed No.14867322
Let's say the game still is everything they promised it would be,would you still be upset because they lied about the patch?
f64236 No.14867325
>>14867222
>disbelieving the official announcement
There's really no reason to, other than inflexible cynicism. "If they lied about the patch what else did they lie about" is Steam community forums-tier hysteria.
>>14867213
The promise of "children's heads exploding" as content that's still in the game is probably an indication that the cut footage in the endings were something like that, can't imagine what else would be that big of a deal.
06fca0 No.14867329
Well fuck me, I was looking forward to this game. Well looks like I’ll have to look forward to the company burning instead. Anon’s plain and simple what they’ve done is illegal under United States and United Kingdom Laws. I’m reasonably sure elsewhere, but I only remember the two because this is the same stunt Crunchyroll pulled recently.
If you want to help fuck these crooks over here is what you can do.
1) Report the game on steam for Fraud: https://store.steampowered.com/app/487720/Agony/
2) Report the developer and publisher to your government regulatory agency. These idiots think just because they’re not regulated by investor laws they are in the Wild West legally. Wrong, this means they’re regulated by consumer protection laws. Even if these twats didn’t Kickstart the moment they promised that patch was the moment they had to legally deliver upon it.
FTC: https://www.ftccomplaintassistant.gov/#crnt&panel1-1
Canada: http://www.adstandards.com/en/ConsumerComplaints/howToSubmitAComplaint.aspx
UK: https://www.asa.org.uk/make-a-complaint.html
3) Spread the word so everyone knows to do it.
e4fcfb No.14867339
>>14867319
Would this not fall under "false marketing"? I'm no legal counsel on the subject but I think a lot of publishers have been getting away with very clear criminal activity (No Man's Sky was another example).
06fca0 No.14867342
>>14866981
Really sucks for them they legally have to deliver it or they're guilty of fraud.
dc4810 No.14867369
>>14867329
Aren't the devs polish? Would this even affect them?
a8c96f No.14867372
>>14867325
>They lied to us before
<Surely, they won't lie to us again
It's called having judgement of character, fucking dumbass.
I can't even begin to fathom how you could get through adult life with that kind of slack attitude.
3d5fc7 No.14867379
>>14867312
>>14867312
>HURRR DURRR STOOPID VIRGINS Y SO MAD
This but unironically.
f64236 No.14867389
>>14867372
If you're going to post it a third time it should be "judgment"
8a96b8 No.14867392
I wish Elite Dangerous had the same backlash when they cut out offline mode in the last month before release.
e6b3ed No.14867401
I'll wait until it's actually released to tell,and i got the game on a decent discount so,that'll certainly influence it.
06fca0 No.14867405
>>14867369
Sell your game in a market and you are subject to their laws and regulations.
86f22a No.14867409
>>14867372
Like the saying goes, Life is hard, it's even harder if you're stupid. It's probably why the normalfags who bought this game have such a rough life. Fool born every minute.
ba1141 No.14867413
>>14866564
Which of you are still falling for these crowd-funding scams?
f507be No.14867416
Yeah the trailers they are touting as being brutal with nothing censored have god damn barbie succubi groins. All the vaginas have been cut out and you are never allowed to look at groins during sex. At least going by all the trailers.
f64236 No.14867426
>>14867416
I think it's in the last thread, but they posted on Facebook that "some lady parts had to be covered", which is strange since just last night on disagreement the studio head >>14867222 was saying there's still pussy in the game
cf9f71 No.14867427
Call me when the "uncensored" version leaks.
f507be No.14867433
>>14867416
Also it looks like a black and white filter pops on whenever something gory happens like in the censored version of manhunt 2.
86f22a No.14867438
>>14867416
>Dicks in full view
>Pussies censored
>Conan has pussys and dicks shown
>"but but we can't"
They're so full of shit hahahahaha. Gonna enjoy watching this trainwreck hit the wall over the next few weeks.
86f22a No.14867463
Just realized
>Agony devs censor game on memorial day of all days
>A day symbolizing those who fought for freedom in america.
The absolute gall.
f64236 No.14867484
>>14867463
I don't think they observe Memorial Day in Poland
279682 No.14867494
>>14866564
>I don't know whether it has any DRM beyond Steam itself
huh
86f22a No.14867502
>>14867484
But their majority playerbase do, if they are poles who are developing this.
86f22a No.14867508
>>14867494
Holy shit, it has Denuvo?
f507be No.14867515
>>14867494
That's fake it isn't listed there for me. Although that doesn't matter since Steam doesn't make you disclose it on the page anymore. People have to troll through EULAs now to make sure.
f64236 No.14867517
>>14867510
God damn it man let the gullible ones fall for it before letting on
4edbc8 No.14867519
>>14867494
IT GETS BETTER AHAHHAHAH
shills fuck off and die. This game was pushed hard here for months along with that other gross horror point and click shooter.
2baf2c No.14867523
Hatred was made by Polish devs and they didn't give a single fuck about AO. Never been sued or gave a shit.
This is a poor excuse, they probably got a contract with the console publisher that requires all of this but they won't openly admit it.
e6b3ed No.14867527
>>14867517
Maybe you're right.
e46d87 No.14867535
>>14866856
Now I want a DOOM game with the marine quoting the Bible
f64236 No.14867537
>>14867519
>that other gross horror point and click shooter.
Inner Chains? People hated it apparently
e6b3ed No.14867543
>>14867535
I want a doom mod where i can use holy weapons like the bible,ala castlevania,that'd be great.
e46d87 No.14867553
>>14867543
It's hilarious that people thought that DOOM was satanic even though you basically murder every demon in hell
e6b3ed No.14867583
>>14867553
It's only satanic if you've got hdoom installed
Because then you have shit taste for wanting to fuck anime girl demons
df1417 No.14867763
I've heard a few people say the "legal issues" might be with regards to differing versions between consoles, as in the publisher for the console versions demands complete parity across all versions.
But if that's the case, then there's no way the developer would even pretend to consider a modding scene or mod utility, right? Because there's absolutely no way that would be considered parity. There's certainly no way they'd lie about considering a PC modding utility, knowing there was no way to legally provide one under this assumption of required parity, so soon after disclosing that they lied about the patch…right?
e6b3ed No.14867771
>>14867763
There's going to be mods one way or another,it's an unreal engine game,people will find a way to bust it down and remold it.
818f91 No.14867797
>>14867763
Yeah, about that…
f507be No.14867804
People are playing the Xbox version now and are saying the game is censored more so then it was in the PC demo. It is starting to look like these guys are giant liars who just keep hoping everyone will leave them alone.
9ad9f9 No.14867811
>>14866564
>the removed content doesn't affect the game, guys
>it only removes several endings!
5a7a7b No.14867820
>western devs
>WESTERN DEVS
dcc330 No.14867826
All I really care about is if there's explicit penetration in the game or not?
Can I get a straight answer?
844e50 No.14867834
>>14867826
Maybe someday
t. soydev
f64236 No.14867836
>>14867804
Post it. There were claims that the entire Succubus game mode was being removed as well, that should be easy to check
4edbc8 No.14867839
>>14867537
No it was some other single word title grotesque game. Looked pretty bad apart from the unappealing aesthetic.
>>14867797
denuvo seals the deal.
9ad9f9 No.14867840
>>14867820
>Poland
>western
f64236 No.14867859
b5c046 No.14867866
>>14867820
Eastern Europe is kinda on the very edge of what you could call the "Western world", in fact some countries in Eastern Europe consider themselves apart of the Eastern world like Russia.
You should usually avoid calling them Western and just refer to them as Eastern European, because they're quite different from the rest of the Western world.
cdb42b No.14867877
>>14867840
well they like to pretend they're part of the west
28d5c3 No.14867879
>>14866867
>Leviticus 18:22
>the dont be a faggot passage
Nothing about rip and tear there buddy
818f91 No.14867883
>>14867839
But this doesn't have Denuvo.
>>14867826
As far as we know, no. It will have "sex" in that you will see characters making the motions, but based on everything the devs have said, the camera angles will be such that you can't actually see penetration.
f507be No.14867890
>>14867826
No all female characters have barbie anatomy below the waist. Whenever sex happens the camera doesn't allow you to look at the penetration.
9ad9f9 No.14867893
>>14867866
> in fact some countries in Eastern Europe consider themselves apart of the Eastern world
Most of them do, actually.
5a7a7b No.14867894
>>14867840
>>14867866
>oy vei! If it's not burger it's not western!
>buy censored game goy!
9ad9f9 No.14867905
>>14867894
>implying that's what I'm saying
Stupid fucking nigger
5a7a7b No.14867914
>>14867905
Anything that isn't japan is west, and any games produced in the west are fucking shit no exceptions.
Good job on saging and bumping in the same thread though.
b5c046 No.14867922
>>14867894
You're a real dumbass anon, you know that?
>>14867877
So does Hong Kong
>>14867826
The devs are being obscure about it, they're not directly saying one way or the other.
>>14867914
>Anything that isn't japan is west
Oh my fuck, you really are an idiot.
02f88f No.14867929
>>14867894
>Gets proven wrong
>"w-well I can't stop now"
e6b3ed No.14867934
>>14867894
Man you're fucking dumb.
5a7a7b No.14867938
4edbc8 No.14867940
>>14867883
I'm sure we'll see when it's out. Wouldn't even surprise me if it does.
9ad9f9 No.14867944
>>14867914
>Anything that isn't japan is west
>China is Western
>Korea is Western
>Laos is Western
>the Philippines are western
You could have admitted your mistake but instead you double down and make yourself look even MORE retarded.
5a7a7b No.14867952
>>14867944
>China is Western
>Korea is Western
>Laos is Western
>the Philippines are western
Yes they are you fucking monkey
f64236 No.14867955
>>14867879
It was a joke, pal
>>14867890
Is sex entirely first-person, or do you see it happening in the environment as well? They promised gay and lesbian sex as well
02f88f No.14867959
>>14867938
I know the embarrassment stings, but I assure you if you stop posting and forget about it this will only get better for you.
5a7a7b No.14867969
>apes getting this triggerd
What you thought you aren't burgers' slaves lol?
9ad9f9 No.14867980
>come into thread about game being censored
>start going into autism about how everything that isn't Japan is western and all things western are shit
Who let the nigger out?
f507be No.14868017
>>14867955
No there is other characters having sex but similarly to the first person stuff the penetration is always obscured.
ecbd99 No.14868086
so this is basically the run down?
>they say that there is going to be a patch for the censored stuff
>later they say that they cannot release a patch because reasons of they needed to make it an AO rating instead of M?
>they say hur da dur we can get sued and it's only 2 ending out seven which means there are 5 endings
>then they say they had to change some camera angles on the sex
>they also more or less say that the ESRB was the ones that fucked them over while PEGI did not care.
mmh this kinda sounds like the Manhunt 2 debacle. Also yeah, when they say they can get sued for the uncensored content? How does that work?
I dunno what is going on with Agony game, but it kinda makes the game more interesting because we cannot really compare one region to another like some Nintendo games.
But the game just feels like edge the game but it does feel like there is some horror going on.
f64236 No.14868124
>>14868086
It's more or less
>a month ago announce the game will be censored on consoles
>promise an uncensor patch for PC
>yesterday announce that there will be no patch but there will not be as much censored as there was going to be
Comparison video due May 30, although if >>14867804 is true a comparison can be made between the demo and the final version to prove more was censored than they claim
>because reasons of they needed to make it an AO rating instead of M?
Well the reasons are that the console versions wouldn't be stocked by retailers
449ea1 No.14868147
>>14866564
>We're only censoring a few seconds out of two endings guys! It's not so bad, see!
If you buy this, you are supporting censorship. It's not okay not matter how small they say the changes are.
9ad9f9 No.14868172
>>14868147
They're removing two whole endings and claiming not much is changing. That's pissing on consumer and saying it's rain.
3f2142 No.14868180
Wait a fucking minute, has anyone told CensoredGaming about the censorship in Agony!?
201d89 No.14868219
>>14867583
Mega faggot detected.
e6b3ed No.14868229
>>14868219
Bad taste in women detected
201d89 No.14868236
>>14868229
>hurr anime
Definitely a retard.
9ad9f9 No.14868248
>>14868236
But.. that's the style HDoom is going for.
I've even talked to HDoomguy about it on his streams.
201d89 No.14868259
>>14868248
Calling liking nip demons "bad taste in women" is fucking pathetic.
b5c046 No.14868262
>>14868236
The "H" in "HDoom" stands for hentai, it's going for an anime look with the characters.
9ad9f9 No.14868271
>>14868259
I wasn't the person who said that, though I don't necessarily disagree. I have no issue with anime but the designs in HDoom look so bland an uninspired.
e6b3ed No.14868282
>>14868236
That's exactly what it is,there's nothing demonic about the faces in hdoom,it's kawaii uguu tier shit
c52798 No.14868304
>>14867553
>>14867583
I so badly wanna h doom+ brutal, so you basically can heal only when rape some demon girl.
9ad9f9 No.14868313
>>14868304
Cropped porn doesn't really work when you can clearly see tiddy.
3f2142 No.14868319
818f91 No.14868323
>>14868282
As it happens, the previous thread introduced me to a game that by no means suffers from that sort of issue.
e6b3ed No.14868333
>>14868323
Good taste
Now if only 2.0 can arrive sooner.
f86d55 No.14868346
Games industry: We want games to be seen as a cultural medium on the level of movies
Games industry: But we're not willing to let people publish games with gratuitous sex like movies.
3f2142 No.14868352
>>14868319
>DC: Were you at all worried that Agony would be a difficult sell to mainstream audiences?
<TD: To be honest, I don’t really care about the sales of the game. Agony is a project that was born in my head a long time ago and I’m very happy and thankful that with the support of fans, we managed to make it real. This is a crazy and very unusual game, and its sales potential is difficult to estimate.
<The most important thing for me personally is that we’ve managed to complete Agony, despite many obstacles along the way.
>DC: Can you talk about the changes that had to be made to the console version of Agony to avoid an Adults Only rating from the ESRB?
<TD: Sure. First of all, I’m glad that the rating agencies are not closed corporations that just make you cut out a given item by force. I spent a lot of time in contact with them to be sure that we censored only those things that we really had to. Thanks to this, we managed to leave most of the content intact.
<Censorship mainly affected three of the possible game endings (there are seven endings), and a few smaller things that can be seen / unlocked only after the game has been completed once. Most players might not even notice…
9ad9f9 No.14868353
>>14868323
Teraurge isn't really a game, though. It's a VN if anything. There's a thread for it on /xen/ if you want to talk about it more.
>>14868319
>Censorship mainly affected three of the possible game endings (there are seven endings), and a few smaller things that can be seen / unlocked only after the game has been completed once. Most players might not even notice…
This is something I'm fucking suspicious of. If these were minor things most players wouldn't even notice, why would the ratings board care? I think they're downplaying the degree of the censorship.
f64236 No.14868354
>>14868319
I read that earlier today, but he doesn't really mention anything about the censorship, it's just a fluff interview pre-release
818f91 No.14868355
>>14868319
>TD: To be honest, I don’t really care about the sales of the game. Agony is a project that was born in my head a long time ago and I’m very happy and thankful that with the support of fans, we managed to make it real. This is a crazy and very unusual game, and its sales potential is difficult to estimate. The most important thing for me personally is that we’ve managed to complete Agony, despite many obstacles along the way.
lol
>Censorship mainly affected three of the possible game endings (there are seven endings), and a few smaller things that can be seen / unlocked only after the game has been completed once.
I thought it was only two endings? Hmm…
06fca0 No.14868360
I'm emailing the ESRB to get their position on this. It's going to be hilarious if they respond calling them a liar.
4c5f3b No.14868375
>fund a kikestarter
If the repeated and sustained faggotry with kikestarter projects wasn't a big enough red flag, you deserve to lose your money. You deserve the developers cucking out and spending your money on something you don't want.
e6b3ed No.14868376
>>14868353
Considering meandraco worked for 3 years on just the engine,i'd say it's a game,especially with the combat and inventory system
9ad9f9 No.14868384
>>14868376
>3 years on just the engine
How the fuck do you work for three years on that?
Again, go to the thread on /xen/. I like eroge and all but /xen/ could use more users and this thread is about Agony.
ecbd99 No.14868386
>>14868124
>Well the reasons are that the console versions wouldn't be stocked by retailers
I know but why do it on PC too? Heck, if they where serious on the non-censorship stuff they could've just taken the pegi stance and have that be the uncensored version and let the NA market have the censored version.
But then again it's just from my understanding that the pegi where more relaxed while esrb where more strict.
But the whole patch thing could've been that they would've sold the game on false pretenses that it was an M rated game but in reality it was AO rated with the patch.
I dunno, the game sounds interesting but how much they are lying about or taking away content is more fascinating then the game itself at this point.
f63971 No.14868405
>>14867314
>Dante's fan fiction
Begone Prottiecuck!
e6b3ed No.14868413
>>14868384
Nigger quit calling it eroge.
9972b5 No.14868421
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14867200
>fucking a newborn baby or some shit.
Fucking serbs
9ad9f9 No.14868424
>>14868413
That's what it is though, an erotic game.
>>14868421
They're interesting people.
449ea1 No.14868425
>>14868319
>TD: To be honest, I don’t really care about the sales of the game.
Then why would he cut content?
f64236 No.14868430
>>14868355
>a few smaller things that can be seen / unlocked only after the game has been completed once
This is the one that concerns me more. "20 seconds worth of footage from two of the endings" is a concrete claim that can be tested, who knows what the fuck "a few smaller things" means.
>>14868386
>I know but why do it on PC too?
Beats me, >>14867763 is committed to the console parity idea and I can't really think of a better explanation, other than the content being illegal in multiple countries.
ac94f3 No.14868466
>>14866564
>none of the scenes you have seen in the trailers and other promotional materials have been censored at all
damn they are learning!
f507be No.14868493
>>14868466
Yeah that's because all the trailers have been of the censored console version and also they had to be censored to be on youtube. Now that the patch is cancelled oh those videos weren't censored it was as intended.
dcc330 No.14868544
I don't even care about being against censorship or any morals or principals.
I just wanted to jack off to Demon porn.
9ad9f9 No.14868555
ac94f3 No.14868562
>>14867329
>Even if these twats didn’t Kickstart the moment they promised that patch was the moment they had to legally deliver upon it.
f507be No.14868590
>>14868544
How dare you think their game that was advertised exclusively with naked demon ladies having sex would be like porn you degenerate?
a6a20d No.14868619
This game looks like complete shit. It's hard for me to imagine what kind of mental illness one must have to want to have anything to do with this filth.
32b8f9 No.14868636
>>14868323
which one?
>Giger stuff not completely related.
101950 No.14868637
>>14866564
>wanting to play a shit stealth game were maybe you get some snatch at the end
>not playing a game were YOU TAKE ALL OF HELLS WOMEN FOR YOUR SELF
cucks, the lot of you
9ad9f9 No.14868646
>>14868637
The appeal to HDoom and Agony were both very different.
378656 No.14868656
>>14868646
I get it man, you just want to fuck a HR Gieger tranny. Meanwhile I get QT demons.
e6b3ed No.14868664
>>14868656
And i see you want to fuck a anime girl wearing body makeup and a costume
f507be No.14868665
So did the Outlast 2 devs lie about their censorship as well then had it leaked out later?
378656 No.14868668
>>14868664
My dick ain't fucking broken nigger.
a419d3 No.14868673
>>14866564
>which said female genitals (but not male for some reason…)
Why is this making me hard? Do I have CFNM fetish or just gay?
6c01ac No.14868674
>>14866856
Most of the episode 4 map names are Bible quotes.
e6b3ed No.14868676
>>14868668
What?
I'm saying that those aren't real demons,they're just uguu girls that LOOK like demons
9ad9f9 No.14868677
>>14868656
>>14868668
Isn't there a Doom thread you could post this in?
a8c96f No.14868681
>>14868673
Just gay.
Sorry.
c1d52d No.14868686
>>14868637
There's some pretty retarded designs in hdoom, and the cyberdemon in the mod just looks off
Someone post that other doom porn mod, I liked the way those girls look way better.
dcc330 No.14868708
>>14868636
HR Giger was fucked in the head
9ad9f9 No.14868717
>>14866856
Yes, lots.
Episode 4, Thy Flesh Consumed is from Proverbs 5:11
And thou mourn at the last, when thy flesh and thy body are consumed
E1M4: Hell Beneath - Proverbs 15:24
The way of life is above to the wise, that he may depart from Hell beneath.
E4M2: Perfect Hatred - Psalm 139:22
I hate them with perfect hatred: I count them mine enemies.
E4M3: Sever The Wicked - Matthew 13:49
So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just
E4M4: Unruly Evil - James 3:8
But the tongue can no man tame; it is an unruly evil, full of deadly poison.
E4M5: They Will Repent - Luke 16:30
And he said, Nay, father Abraham: but if one went unto them from the dead, they will repent.
E4M6: Against Thee Wickedly - Psalm 139:20
For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy name in vain.
E4M7: And Hell Followed - Revelation 6:8
And I looked, and behold a pale horse: and his name that sat on him was Death, and Hell followed with him. And power was given unto them over the fourth part of the earth, to kill with sword, and with hunger, and with death, and with the beasts of the earth.
E4M8: Unto The Cruel - Proverbs 5:9
Lest thou give thine honour unto others, and thy years unto the cruel
3069ab No.14868727
5 bucks its literally just a notepad edit from true to false for the options and or pirates end up getting the full game etc
f507be No.14868737
>>14868727
I think the best outcome would be they accidentally put out the uncensored version of the game. Get ass destroyed by publisher and go out business. Publisher censors the official game while pirates play the uncensored version that eventually gets modded into a full eroge game.
e3f6ef No.14868739
>>14867771
No, UE4 is very hostile to modding.
e6b3ed No.14868755
>>14868739
What makes you say that?
32b8f9 No.14868763
>>14868708
He said he got inspiration for all those things from his nightmares, if you want to get very metaphysical you could say his nightmares enabled him to see a glimpse of something somewhere else in the universe or some eldritch thing.
e3f6ef No.14868764
>>14868673
girls without girlbits owo
93d3f3 No.14868779
>>14867239
https://exhentai.org/g/878247/15fe7a826c/
This was a pain in the ass to track down so you better fucking enjoy it
dcc330 No.14868785
>>14868763
The idea that shit like that actually exists somewhere it to terrifying to consider.
Honestly all things considered Earth isn't that bad.
37372e No.14868786
>>14867553
A bit of a late reply and sage for off-topic, but there's another reason Christians don't like it. Satan is supposed to be an adversary of God, and killing him sort of defeats the purpose of sending those deserving to hell, especially if ruler of Hell doesn't exist anymore and it can't really function in its purpose.
e6b3ed No.14868787
>>14868785
there's a good louis ck bit on that
c52798 No.14868793
>>14868313
>tiddy
But if this just two watermelon in plastic bag???
dcc330 No.14868797
>>14868787
But Loius CK is a cuck and a faggot.
e6b3ed No.14868809
>>14868779
That was hot as fuck,the down talking from the demons pissed me off though
>>14868797
yeah but he had a good bit
32b8f9 No.14868819
>>14868785
Terrifying and fascinating for me at the same time, the sculptures may be only a way to give sense to those shapes, but we don't really know what kind of real perspective one could use if we saw them for real.
b0ff70 No.14868828
>>14866564
Disappointed the devs went this way, fucking over their PC kickstarter backers for the console release because god forbid you make a game thats hyped not released on consoles.
>>14868737
I'm sure the publishers or whoever is holding them by the balls went "You'd better not do this or we'll know it was you!"
32b8f9 No.14868840
>>14868828
I can only think of one reason as to why the content can be shown on YT but not made accessible to the players, even if the content is the endings there may be some kind of interactivity in there, so the only way we can experience it will be from a "safe" point of view.
dbc7c7 No.14868841
>>14866564
Like the Help Me guy, the Agony company should do whatever they can to stay in business, but I'm wondering who will sue them?
c52798 No.14868842
>>14868637
Welp if you put in this way…
Heavy moded Oblivion look much better for raping demongirls.
Or let them rape you, depend of lovers settings.
e6b3ed No.14868843
>>14868842
>heavily modded oblivion lets you have demon girls rape you
as a man?
c52798 No.14868877
>>14868843
Doesn't matter. Once i saw how deer rape hunter near bruma.
9656c2 No.14868883
>>14868797
but he's not right-wing
e6b3ed No.14868887
>>14868877
It does matter,if male dick does not enter female demon oriface it will not do
CALL THE SCHOOLMASTER
0956ff No.14868890
>>14868842
>>14868877
Really wish people made mod packs for this shit.
I don't want to sift through 100k mods for the good and compatible ones and fucking around with BOSS for 4 hours before playing.
f64236 No.14868897
>>14868841
>the Agony company should do whatever they can to stay in business
I'd prefer if they release the game as intended and get shut down, game history would be kinder to them than the alternative
32b8f9 No.14868907
>>14868897
I am surprised no one has come with the "it is their game and they can do whatever they want with it!" argument, despite their game having to be sold to other people.
c52798 No.14868918
>>14868887
If i correct remember, then just unchek futanari\strapon option but leave allov rape untoched, then you got what you want.
e6b3ed No.14868929
>>14868918
Mate i'm not installing oblivion for that shit,you gotta bring it to me.
9ad9f9 No.14868934
>>14868877
>>14868842
That looks like shit, though.
a419d3 No.14868948
>>14868681
Why do devs show male nudity in video games at all then?
f64236 No.14868988
>>14868907
>"it is their game and they can do whatever they want with it!"
Well they apparently can't, otherwise this issue wouldn't be happening in the first place
c52798 No.14869036
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>>14868934
Depend on installed visual mods, latest look pretty awesome. But major issue still clipping, body still not incompatible with clothes, penis poked thru armors, heads and more.
9ad9f9 No.14869046
>>14869036
Sorry man, I gotta disagree. I really don't like how that looks.
31652c No.14869057
>Kike psyop game that promotes literal satanism gets censored
>WOW WTF THANKS DEVS
28abae No.14869077
908b19 No.14869083
>>14869057
>Censoring instead of exposing it and calling it out for what (((it))) is
It's because of people like you that (((they))) can claim victim all the fucking time.
a8c96f No.14869092
>>14868948
Because they're gay and are trying to sell to other gay people, duh.
28abae No.14869099
>>14867914
Idk,man. Nip games are pretty shit. Even if they do make porn games it's all sameface generic anime style.
9972b5 No.14869108
I was watching a gameplay video and is there any actual gameplay or is this just another walking sim? because what I've seen it looks like another walking sim.
32b8f9 No.14869110
So when can we expect the torrent?
f64236 No.14869116
>>14869110
It releases in 11 hours on PC, so assuming there's no aggressive DRM it'll be tomorrow
3069ab No.14869122
>>14869108
its a walking find the way forward sim with its main selling poiint being sex gore and demons basically but now its "censored"
but ya wait for the torrent/uncensored version of the game.
the main game is probably unpatched with off on switch for the stuff. since they won't be a "Official" patch wink wink.
a419d3 No.14869123
>>14869092
But gay men only make up 0.1% of the world, why did rockstar make a gta game with no female genitals and only penis?
f64236 No.14869125
>>14869123
Through dick, unity
3f2142 No.14869129
>>14869125
No, that will angry the God of Sex.
a8c96f No.14869133
>>14869123
Well, they're gay, as we've established, so why would you expect for anything they do to make sense from the logical standpoint of a normal human being? Who knows how they operate.
1f081b No.14869258
The only thing that pisses me off more than censorship and lying devs is the retards defending this shit.
Checking out the steam discussions for 2 minutes was a mistake even though I expected this.
8ce9d7 No.14869264
so is this a fucking shooter or what?
e6b3ed No.14869268
>>14869264
I'll shooter
with my semen
a8c96f No.14869299
>>14869258
>steamcucks being good goys
>muh incels
Why am I not surprised?
9972b5 No.14869324
>>14869258
>couple of seconds of censorship
f27ea5 No.14869338
>>14869258
>pathetic kids
>grow up
>muh incels
Just a fuck ton of lefty/sjw shills, as far as the eye can see.
bb4a24 No.14869346
>>14869324
You have to understand that these people have a couple of their penis censored when they are born.
Being cucked and complicit about it is in their genes and their culture.
a8c96f No.14869361
>>14869324
Sometimes I really wonder if the mind of a normalfag is truly incapable of understanding the concept of a slippery slope.
Even if it were just a couple of seconds, how can they not see that's the way things always start, small? That if they accept just that "tiny" bit of censorship they're basically saying that they're OK with it and allowing themselves to have even more pushed upon them later on little by little?
I mean, who are these people and where do they come from? One of most basic things life should teach you is that it's way, way easier to open a floodgate than it is closing it. How does one make it to adulthood with such lack of forethought?
6c01ac No.14869364
>>14869258
If they released a blender that could come to life at night and take pictures of your dick while you slept, normalfags would defend it.
a419d3 No.14869370
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d2d5ed No.14869374
a8c96f No.14869380
>>14869370
>>14869371
But what if it mangled your dick and then took the picture?
I mean, why make it a blender if not for that purpose?
6c01ac No.14869384
>>14869380
I guess that's how we got this game's artstyle.
f789f0 No.14869414
can someone tell me why things have to be like this
d2d5ed No.14869417
>>14867329
there's no way blame can be shifted on Steam, can it? I guess not, since they could've pulled out any time
>>14867826
Not anymore!
>>14868319
it keeps getting better/worse
>>14868786
I thought that Hell was sort of prison for everybody, Satan included.
32b8f9 No.14869430
>>14869417
Maybe the devs were among the first to sign the new revised anti-nudity policies with NDAs that we suspected would be forced onto the VN devs, who knows.
402b18 No.14869433
1. what type of game was this even? Looks like an edgy walking sim, but if it's a fast paced shooter I may pirate.
2.can you still fug the demoness in all the promos
9972b5 No.14869445
>>14869433
I too thought it was a fast paced hell shooter but its just a walking sim.
f27ea5 No.14869447
>>14869433
>can you still fug the demoness
With conveniently altered camera angles so you can't see anything. Demon pussy is a no no to see :')
9b0c8d No.14869448
>>14866564
>inb4 Scorn gets censored for transphobia because it looks too much like a post-op mangina
a8c96f No.14869461
>>14869448
What board's gathering is this, /co/?
9972b5 No.14869472
>>14869461
Worse, speedrunners.
402b18 No.14869482
>>14869445
>>14869447
>slow paced edgy (probably 2deep)walking sim
>censored fugging monster chicks and we don't even know the extent
>hide and seek gameplay
I'd say why does anyone care but I guess everyone loves a good shitshow.
a8c96f No.14869508
>>14869472
Yeah, I can see that.
>>14869445
When I first heard about the game I thought it was going to be some hardcore First Person Hack n' Slash, but nope, just some shitty exploration with bits of "stealth". Every piece of gameplay I've watched so far looks boring.
>>14869482
I don't really think anyone here ever entertained the idea that it was going to be a good game, they were in it due to the demon tiddies or, more recently, due to the controversy and a chance to shit on some lying devs.
402b18 No.14869514
>>14869508
gotcha, I'd seen the threads from time to time and never really had the interest to look inside them. Just saw the demon tids, admired, then kept on scrolling. Considering we were coming up on it's release I figured I'd just check in and see if the gameplay would worth being mad about the censorship. Luckily it's not.
dbbfcc No.14869527
>>14866670
And they failed to read that clause before signing with the publisher, somehow?
Doesn't make sense either. They've been advertising the patch for PC for a long time now.
10439d No.14869534
>Kickstarter
I'm disgusted but not surprised.
9972b5 No.14869654
>>14869508
There is always Jericho.
I want Clive Barker to make more games.
cc3922 No.14869667
>>14869380
Have a better picture.
402b18 No.14869736
>>14869654
I'll never understand why this game is so fun to me. It feels so budget and thrown together in a lot of ways, the story and characters are meh at best, and the atmosphere… well, that's pretty solid.
It isn't a good game, but I've played through it at least 4 or 5 times now, not to mention it's my go to drinking game.
9972b5 No.14869796
>>14869736
I only played the demo back when it released on 360 but never got around to buying, but the overall design was always a good selling point to me, but Clive has always done some pretty cool shit.
e11af2 No.14869802
>>14866860
These textures are hell.
901e85 No.14869814
>The remove the only thing that makes your game relevant
Well good job guys
17b351 No.14869899
>>14867409
Stupid fuckers.
cd8b6a No.14870036
>>14867314
Considering Outlast 2 got away with a mass-grave full of dead children and only had to tone down a rape scene of the main character to get by ratings, it's hard not to assume they refuse to tell us what the problem is because it would've been something out of Mai-chan's Daily Life. Seriously, what is it they're hiding?
1ef135 No.14870344
>>14867022
>it's real
sorry anon i thought it was fake
bd5cca No.14870401
why the fuck would you make a game based on heavy themes like demons, gore, rape etc… and then censor it like a vagina because "sony won't allow it!"
5b32fa No.14870464
>>14868384
>How the fuck do you work for three years on that?
Partly due to the fact that a precursor game that was being thrown around was that babysitting cream game that was built inside flash and it became a goddamn nightmare, so meandraco set out to avoid that and built an engine that was situated around remembering previously established events that would be set in stone and wouldn't randomly be forgotten or ignored.
e150aa No.14870474
>>14870401
Because they signed up with a console instead of going full pc first, collecting the profits and then wait for sony to ask them for a port.
a8741d No.14870500
>>14867519
The Denuvo image is fake. Holy shit you fucking spergs don't even double check the shit being fed to you.
OT: I've just watched a playthrough of what I imagine is the majority of the game on Jewtube. I am honestly not sure what the fuss is about, the game is hardly obscene or edgy at all. The worst thing in it is that "forbidden fruit" are apples with vaginas on them. You only get to see some succubus tits. Witcher 3 had "worse" nudity and "worse" violence than this edgy walking simulator. If they only censored a few seconds off of two endings as they claim then there really couldn't have been much there to begin with since the game is tame as fuck.
But regardless of that, on the topic of the censorship - While I understand the "GIVE THEM NO INCH!" attitude, I implore people to think this through rationally. This wasn't the dev's decision. If the ESRB or PEGI had slapped an AO / 18+ rating on them the game couldn't have been sold. If you want to rage at someone, rage at the rating boards. The dev claims they'll release the censored content as a video, which given their circumstances is really the best they can do. /v/ asks for "proper" treatment and non-pozzed devs without giving anything in return.
inb4 shill
1ef135 No.14870509
>>>14870479
Whenever vidya censorship happens, there are legion of shills defending it every time it happens. Every fucking threads. We've got even shills defending NISA. Some portion of mankind is really retarded. I've learn this long ago and dealt with it.
And the censorship itself seems to happened due to console contract. And faggots saying console does not holding back PC.
c55474 No.14870521
What I don't understand is why they can't just outright tell what it is they censored. Are they claiming they will get sued as well if they describe what it was exactly just with text?
It's absolutely retarded, every screenshot I've seen so far is the devs saying stuff like "no bro it's just soooo hardcore, we would never be able to publish it".
a8741d No.14870533
>>14870521
From what I've read, it's to do with spoilers, but don't quote me on that. More to the point, anyone who wanted to play this game just because it has tits and gore deserves everything bad that happens to them. The game is objectively shit - aesthetics are headache inducing, there are 2 types of enemies, puzzles are for brain-dead retards, it's buggy and amateurishly coded, the voice acting is atrocious and animations are ok-ish at best.
b98c76 No.14870537
>>14869057
trying too hard to fit in
f857a1 No.14870547
>>14870500
PEGI gives games 18+ ratings all the time - pretty much every ESRB M rated game is a PEGI 18. Individual governments have their own censorship policies but PEGI itself can't effectively block anything from sale the way the ESRB can with "AO". The fake distinction between "M" and "AO" gives the ESRB the ability to block whatever they want and publishers an "it's not real censorship though :^)" excuse to get out of 1st Amendment lawsuits.
a8741d No.14870562
>>14870547
Ah, wasn't really aware of that, not keeping up really all that shit. I know that AO and whatever the fuck Australia uses can block games, just assumed that PEGI had an equivalent for it. Point still stands though, if people want to get pissed, they should get pissed at the right people which in this case aren't the devs. Not that you should buy the game either, if you really need some demon fap material pirate it, because it's a shit game.
e8b9b0 No.14870572
What a gigantic fucking meme this game is. Some retards screwing around with unreal engine and calling it horror. It looks like shit and it looks like it plays like shit, too.
They probably just want to sell the uncensored version as a DLC or "enhanced" edition or director's cut in a few years.
6e9f63 No.14870573
>>14870562
No the devs do deserve the anger. They fucking handled all of this terribly. Who thought it was a good idea to wait until the last minute to reveal this shit ONE fucking day before the game's release and then try to downplay the fucking censorship thinking that wouldn't be a god damn insult to all of the backers.
f857a1 No.14870591
>>14870562
It's fair to be mad at the devs, since even if you accept that they needed an M rated version for consoles they still don't have a valid reason not to release an AO/Unrated version for PC. Not to mention the extremely poor way they've handled the whole announcement.
a8741d No.14870605
>>14870573
>>14870591
That's fair, I'm not defending the devs, the announcement has been handled extremely poorly and it will certainly affect sales, mostly because the game has absolutely no other selling points except for the XTREME violence and sex. I'm saying to not treat this as e.g. Fatal Frame Maiden of Blackwater censorship that was deliberate and unrelated to any "justifiable" reasons like legal or rating issues. Doing so makes it seem that the issue is completely non-nuanced, which it isn't.
a16408 No.14870613
>>14869361
Normalfags think slippery slopes are all fallacies, it's even on the wikipedia page listing fallacies.
b0ff70 No.14870614
>>14870594
Basically means he'll take his chances pissing off the customers. I bet he's expecting sympathy for this. A complete 180 from the original stance and it shows every assurance given was just to keep a hold on backer money, while taking publisher money and he's already bought into it completely if that reasoning given is sincere.
22058a No.14870618
>>14867213
>there's a doujin where
Nigger, there's a million doujins with that.
0bed6b No.14870621
>>14870613
The slippery slope fallacy is a real thing, it's just extremely poorly named, and kind of pointless. The idea is that someone labels something as a slippery slope when it is in fact not a slippery slope. That's the "fallacy." Hardly needed classification if you ask me.
b0ff70 No.14870628
>>14870621
The slippery slope is a fallacy when its used as a fallacy, like when christcucks say that pokemon teaches kids to be satanists by communing with demons. Its not a fallacy to say by letting a little in you'll get more of it, its a basic part of understanding behavior.
a16408 No.14870641
>>14870621
I should have specified that because it's listed on wikipedia as a fallacy they think all instances of it are automatically fallacious.
5af563 No.14870683
I didn't care about Agony since it was "stealth horror game" and my only experience with that genre was "Alien Isolation", but i don't like when game getting censored, especially demon waifu sexual tormentor.
Also, what the fuck, didn't steam or some other company shit introduced some fuckery such as "family sharing" which will hold kids/teenagers from playing violent games? Why the fuck just because game contain sexual and ultra-violent content it needs to be censored, so it can be played for anyone? Why the fuck these hacks say "lol we don't care about sales" when defacto they trying to apply so they get some more sales?
Fuck them. Not even going to download pirated game. This shit makes me drop my idea of making ARPG game with some (minor) erotic content related to demons/dark-creatures.
But whatever, hacks are hacks even in physical form.
17a983 No.14870698
I hope they do a WatchDog where you can still re-enable the content by putting 1s instead of 0s in a .ini somewhere and call it "cut content"
That would be a nice fuck you to the publishers
0d36d8 No.14870702
>>14869122
>its a walking sim with its main selling poiint being sex gore and demons
>i.e. an edgy walking simulator
What an absolutely, positively retarded idea for a game.
a91887 No.14870790
>>14867329
It's also perfectly illegal in the EU (hell it's probably worse because doing it online includes violation of EU financing laws. The whole kickstarter thing isn't 100% legal to begin with in the EU, it's a tolerated gray area, any suspicious activity automatically bumps it to a scamming fraud level).
False advertising is illegal everywhere civilized, maybe even in China.
a91887 No.14870858
>>14868786
Satan doesn't rule hell.
Judeo-protestant rape fantasy =/ Christianity.
32febb No.14870873
Games out, succubus mode is still in, but it looks like you have to beat the game first.
120f27 No.14870877
>>14869258
>grow up
There it is again.
f64236 No.14870893
>>14870873
>but it looks like you have to beat the game first.
There it is >>14868430
If succubus mode had to be unlocked after you beat the game, and "a few smaller things" after you beat the game had to be cut, then succubus mode probably originally showed explicit penetration
818f91 No.14870897
>>14870873
They said some of the content they censored was only visible after you beat the game once, while they were trying to downplay it. Succubus mode must be what they were talking about; even if it's still in as a whole, it's likely been censored to some degree.
32febb No.14870903
>>14870897
I guess we'll find out tomorrow when they put out the video of the uncensored comparison.
ea8ca2 No.14870906
>>14866564
>some scenes that may be unlocked only after the end of the game
They probably cut titty gallery mode
32febb No.14870914
I'll let you all know if I find a vagina and/or penetration.
7e0e1a No.14871117
>>14866670
It's more likely a feature parity clause in the contract with Sony/MS that the console publisher signed with them, and they were unaware of the developer's pre-existing intention to break it for the PC release. You remember how PC ports of AAA games get graphical features dummied out for no apparent reason? It's like that. Since the console publisher is only acting on behalf of the devs and is not involved in the PC release, the devs would be responsible for the breach of contract, so they are the ones that would get sued into oblivion by Sony and/or MS.
054e0d No.14871143
>>14869736
>ywn save that qt austim girl who was able to hack reality.
Shit lads…
32febb No.14871182
Well I found a guy using babies as brick mortar.
7fe4c1 No.14871262
>>14870464
What game are you talking about exactly?
0d7d33 No.14871704
>>14866710
>yuoros
Muh violence
>burgers
Muh sex
I'm sure there was a sex scene which was canceled
9ad9f9 No.14871731
>>14871262
Teraurge.
It's a game where you fug xenos.
6d2ad8 No.14871834
>>14866564
Saves me the money
a16408 No.14871842
>>14871834
How much do torrents cost in your communist spic nation?
6d2ad8 No.14871887
>>14871842
I live in Canada and it is a communist chink country please understand there are no spics here
a16408 No.14871911
>>14871887
Ah, just snow niggers, not a lot better. You have my condolences.
c1a9e2 No.14871993
It's official.
No vaginas but big floppy uncircumcised cocks are fine.
Fuck these devs.
9ad9f9 No.14872117
>>14871993
It's trash, Jim.
f27ea5 No.14872175
>>14872053
Good. I hope those "muh incels" that the shills on Steam were crying over are giving it mass negative reviews and refunding.
818f91 No.14872318
Turns out it wasn't just sex that got censored, some gore did too.
Someone on the Steam Discussions posted a comparison proving that at least one scene even had blood changed from red to purple.
32b8f9 No.14873077
>>14870683
Don't give up on your vision, just don't get publishers or Steam as platform.
615fec No.14873211
>>14866564
>you will not miss out on anything
3 lines earlier
>…deleted material…
What kind of mental acrobatics is this?
I get the feeling that this won't be ending well for them.
32b8f9 No.14873256
I am reading some user reviews, interestingly enough some bad ones elaborate on gameplay aspects and don't even touch the censorship, meanwhile positive ones use the censorship debacle as a way to say is not a big deal and hardly touch any technical stuff on the game, quite interesting, don't you think?
818f91 No.14873334
>>14873256
It looks like there are a lot of reports that the devs used cheap, shitty lighting to hide the fact that most of the game looks bad-ugly rather than grotesque-ugly.
There are also complaints that you can't rebind many of the controls, so anyone not using a QWERTY board can't even move properly.
32b8f9 No.14873351
>>14873334
Well shit, maybe this was all planned so they can blame poor reviews and low sales onto the "haters" crowd that "review bombed because we didn't include 3 seconds of vagina" or something along those lines?
a16408 No.14873361
>>14873351
Probably, the devs have been pretty unscrupulous so far and their previous projects haven't exactly been stellar.
f6de4b No.14873530
>>14866860
90s CGI level of work there.
213206 No.14873575
>>14873361
Yeah I'm pretty sure they are just lying about being forced to censor the game. If it was truly out of their hands they would have apologized about it. However they just act like they're doing you a favor by censoring the game you paid for.
a16408 No.14873582
>>14873575
Guess we can find out if we want to bother, the game was cracked and on trackers within a couple hours.
b0ff70 No.14873641
>>14873582
I'd post a magnet but everything out is unverified.
32b8f9 No.14873675
>>14873641
It is on gazelle games if someone has an account there.
58b481 No.14873755
Yeah people are finding stuff that was uncensored in the demo that are censored in the final game. Blood in certain scenes being changed to purple camera cutting away not only during cutscenes but also during some gore scenes. They never got anything more passed the censors they just didn't want to bother putting out the patch or were advised not to and cucked out. They never fought for shit.
0bed6b No.14873795
>>14873755
>Blood in certain scenes being changed to purple
Who the fucking fuck are they marketing to? Germany? Jesus H. Christ. "Hurr durr, we got a publishing deal guys, lets sacrifice our entire product to make a buck!" Why? Game development pays worse than other jobs that people with the same skills could get, especially programmers. Why the fuck do you even try if you aren't passionate and principled? I just don't get it.
a16408 No.14873808
>>14873795
It was scenes where babies were being killed, so presumably it was to make them appear to not be human.
bf2a49 No.14873830
>>14873795
They probably had to censor the game so it could be approved for Australia and Germany and stuff. They were too lazy to put out multiple versions of the game so everyone gets the lowest common denominator.
818f91 No.14873908
Their Kickstarter is full of comments by backers complaining they haven't gotten keys yet, along with quite a few complaining that their names were missing from the credits.
f27ea5 No.14873935
>>14873908
Maybe give the backers a little push to threaten legal action. I think these devs have greatly shown they deserve to be fucked with.
a16408 No.14873944
>>14873935
I'm betting the devs just used kickstarter to fund their own fap material game, I mean, they've still got the uncensored content, they're just going to get paid AND keep their fetish material.
I was hoping for a reasonably good rendition of a hellish journey but it's not at all appearing to be the case at this point, with or without censorship.
1c5dac No.14874036
>>14871993
Fuck.
These.
Devs.
32b8f9 No.14874039
>>14873944
At this point I assume even Dante's Inferno had a more risky approach to that content.
07413e No.14874086
818f91 No.14874089
>>14871993
>uncircumcised
Well, at least the Jews aren't directly at fault this time.
a16408 No.14874143
>>14874039
Probably.
>>14874089
Wouldn't the uncut ones be the ones in jew-hell?
818f91 No.14874280
>Steam listing less than 1500 people in-game
Did they get the flop they deserved?
f507be No.14874287
>>14874036
Having that in a game you call uncensored is just lie anyway you slice it. Especially when you have those same characters supposedly having sex where are they being penetrated.
f507be No.14874356
The dev is back in the dis|cord not saying anything most of the people online are not playing the game. There are like maybe 8 people playing it even one of the mods is playing Arma 3 instead.
f507be No.14874371
People putting hours into the story to get stuck on geometry and forced to quit. Game reloads back a the start of the game.
f507be No.14874396
>>14874036
Oh look here is the original model complete with vagina, it hasn't been censored though.
dcc330 No.14874403
f27ea5 No.14874418
>>14874280
Unless it has some miraculous pick up, it seems like it. People aren't happy.
>>14874396
"Why do you even know that!" "Are you some kind of kid, digging through older demos!"
t. shill
818f91 No.14874427
>>14874418
>t. shill
That reminds me, anyone have the censorship apologist bingo card? I seem to have misplaced mine.
f507be No.14874428
>>14874418
Guy in the dis|cord is posting comparisons from the demo and stuff. Not even censorship stuff the entire game just looks like a muddy mess now.
b61f05 No.14874555
>>14873808
Oh, so they made them look like arabs.
818f91 No.14874584
>>14874466
Am I missing anything?
I gave it the "they won't localize the sequels" since I figure the talk of the studio being shut down is close enough.
a16408 No.14874663
>>14874555
Do arabs have purple blood? Or does that only happen when they make their first IED and undergo the Mutations?
>>14874584
I don't think so. The developers unabashed desire to have oodles of bizarre sex in the game is pretty much the only thing preventing a straight up fucking blackout from the apologists.
818f91 No.14874761
File: b2f84ea02f326c9⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 431.22 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 487720_screenshots_2018052….jpg)

Okay, so after scrolling through literally hundreds of screenshots, it appears someone found a vagina still left uncensored.
01bde3 No.14874786
>>14874761
Ya'Know that is almost a fucking insult. The one pussy left in game is just a bit of sliced out meat.
f507be No.14874791
>>14874663
I think what happened was the devs had to quickly redo a ton of the art to get passed ratings certification but were told really late. So they delayed the game a month and rushed shit out. So now the finished game looks muddy and significantly worse than what was promised. Then the publisher saw that the uncensored patch would now also be a massive graphical upgrade since it was assets that were being worked on for years. So they told them they cannot put out the patch or breach contracts by giving the publisher such a significantly worse version.
a16408 No.14874792
>>14874761
Awesome, we've still got Satan's used fucking fleshlight.
a16408 No.14874803
>>14874791
Retexturing some crotches wouldn't make the whole game look like garbage and be a broken buggy mess. They're just shitty devs who lied for money, nothing new.
f507be No.14874824
>>14874803
No that wasn't all they had to change a lot of it has been changed. People who played the demo are really upset saying what the fuck did you do to this game? The devs have lied in a bunch of ways and I'm just trying to think of why. If it was intended from the start they never would have announced the patch.
4f4851 No.14874837
>>14874761
>>14874786
Literally a pocket pussy.
>>14874792
Thanks for the laugh.
a16408 No.14874878
>>14874824
They claim the publishers wanted parity between all versions' feature sets so I guess that could just be the Xbone Effect.
bd96fe No.14875087
818f91 No.14875089
>>14874786
It's actually not flesh, judging from some comments I've seen elsewhere.
It's an apple. Which is kind of a neat idea, given the setting, but that's small consolation.
That's probably the only reason it was allowed to stay, come to think of it.
acad30 No.14875107
I honestly feel that the biggest issue here is that they dangled the patch and then were caled on it and had to remove it. I bet if they stayed quiet they could have just slipped it through a month after release as a external patch, admittedly a good sized one but one they could provide on their games website. But I'm just a twat who knows little of these things.
Still hoping Scorn delivers, but the last I heard from those devs they wanted to dumb it down to make it more straightforward and accessible so I gotta pump the breaks on that one.
I'm just waiting for a game where the entire aesthetic is based entirely off of Dutch/Flemish chaotic hell.
f507be No.14875121
>>14875107
>admittedly a good sized one but one they could provide on their games website
You can use torrents to distribute now don't even need server access.
bd96fe No.14875146
>>14874036
>succubus without vagina
449ea1 No.14875216
>>14874036
I'm not even really angry, just disappointed. Oh well, is it worth a pirate?
32b8f9 No.14875222
>>14875216
I'll tell you in 1 hour more or less.
4f4851 No.14875232
>>14875222
Be sure to tell us whether it really looks as shitty/cheap as has been stated in the thread.
32b8f9 No.14875255
>>14875232
I'll run it at low or medium depending on how much my frame rate can stand because I have a toaster, BUT I'll make sure to let you know, can this game be streamed on twitch or other platform? I can try to setup a small stream for tomorrow if needed.
f507be No.14875266
>>14875216
Not right now all the sex has been removed and it's a buggy mess.
4f4851 No.14875286
>>14875255
I don't know if it can be by twitch's guidelines (maybe that's one of the things the censorship was about?), I stopped paying attention to that place along time ago.
f507be No.14875297
>>14875255
people are streaming it don't know if there are restrictions
32b8f9 No.14875311
>>14875286
Find me a platform and I will try, as long as it can be set up with OBS.
>>14875297
I guess is still too soon to know, until those get warned or something.
818f91 No.14875554
>No they did not lie… There is full nudity of both sex but I think it's a engine bug that everyone is considering nudity censor…
This is why I read the Steam discussions. You can't make this shit up.
5c2845 No.14875592
>they actually censored the pussies but left all the cocks in
Literal faggotry.
d6738c No.14875596
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Here's the final 10 minutes of the main campaign. I haven't seen any other gameplay of this and I only saw some thumbnails and headlines about it a few days ago and what's been said in these threads. That being said, even I'm disappointed in this "Final boss" and ending. Satan just steps on you and sends you back to hell.
The fight itself only consists of walking, 5 jumps and shooting a stationary target twice all without any sense of danger. For a game featuring "mature" themes like lust, they sure ended on an anti-climax.
I'm not even going to talk about the horrible visuals and voice acting.
What were they honestly thinking?
4f4851 No.14875620
>>14875596
>What were they honestly thinking?
About all the gullible fucks they could dupe into giving them money.
818f91 No.14875698
I guess they get a little credit for making that joke.
f507be No.14875730
>>14875596
What is with all the fucking filters why can I not just look at the fucking game?
4f4851 No.14875736
a6e90b No.14876008
c52798 No.14876069
>>14875146
Guns without barrels
1d669e No.14876252
OK, played it for a few minutes, graphically offensive when it comes to settings, full gamma is bad, default FOV is not good and 120 FOV means you see everything as if your character was doing limbo dance all the time, as I said, I can try setting up a stream tomorrow (well, tomorrow is today already but you know what I mean.)
a84fb2 No.14877830
>>14868786
>Satan is supposed to be an adversary of God, and killing him sort of defeats the purpose of sending those deserving to hell
First off, you don't kill Satan in Doom so this doesn't even apply. And also I remember them being explained as inter-dimensional aliens that took the guise of demons as a terror tactic, but I don't remember if that was a retcon or what.
Second off, torturing people in hell isn't some kind of job for Satan. He does it because he's jealous of humanity. And just being in hell at all is supposed to be torture.
2a1b5c No.14878223
>>14877830
>Second off, torturing people in hell isn't some kind of job for Satan.
It isn't a thing at all. It has no biblical basis.
1d669e No.14879482
>>14877830
>>14878223
I prefer how it is handled by Lucifer Morningstar in the comics and TV Series (RIP the TV Series.)
bd96fe No.14879568
f27ea5 No.14879656
>>14879568
Fucking lol. I might just be winning my bet that they're just not going to release the vid.
42a4c5 No.14879737
>>14879568
I almost can't believe it.
Like, holy shit. This is why you don't kickstart games.
c6b1ae No.14879776
They put up a reddit post for everyone to ask about censorship questions if they think something other than the ending was changed. No answers yet everyone is asking why all the females are censored but the males aren't. I asked the dev on that fan disagreement about the purple blood. He said oh it's because that area is purple so we thought the blood should be purple too. Then offered to change it to red in the next patch. Doubt it will happen anytime soon if at all.
https://www.red dit.com/r/AgonyGame/comments/8nbm2r/official_censorship_qa/
818f91 No.14879815
>>14879776
>We continue receiving inquiries regarding the alleged censorship of some elements in the game
>alleged
The audacity of these niggers.
c6b1ae No.14879844
>>14879815
Yeah modders are trying to open up the models to see what is in there and they are having a really hard time. I'm assuming shit is in there from the original game and they do not want people to see.
c6b1ae No.14879964
Steam reviews are at 51% positive and continue to get worst. Hardly see anymore positive threads on the forums either. It is looking like the shills ran out of steam or just more and more people are piling on.
1d669e No.14879989
>>14879964
The game has more issues than just the censorship.
c6b1ae No.14880012
>>14879989
I know but the shills are still defending it, or they were.
1d669e No.14880123
>>14880012
Most of the positive reviews I saw were feelings and not technical, ironically the bad ones barely touched the censorship subject.
f507be No.14880341
3 hours since the censorship q&a was posted not a single answer from the devs. Dev just posted a screenshot of the VLC player playing the deleted scenes vid and it's almost 5 minutes long. So much for only 20 seconds from 2 of the endings.
f27ea5 No.14880453
>>14880341
>posted a screenshot of the VLC player playing the deleted scenes vid
Are they just trying to antagonize people now? That's just an outright insult.
b61f05 No.14881028
I know that "just watch it on YouTube" is normally a pro-censorship stance, but in this case I cannot see any reason why you'd play this "game" to begin with. Looks like it has some cool visuals, but that's it.
f507be No.14881074
>>14881028
>cool visuals
The devs are trying really hard to put a stop to that. The entire game looks like it was dipped in mud. Then they shove filters over your vision most of the time just makes it hard to look at things.
b61f05 No.14881168
>>14881074
The whole game and alternate endings can be found on YouTube and twitch. Some of the level design look cool, but the facial animations are atrocious.
8e25a3 No.14881226
So is the game itself shit or is it just the censorship removed? I'll pirate if it's still at least enjoyable but the entire point of the game to begin with was to be able to have a boner you could, for once, be ashamed of openly with others. I just want my weird satanic rituals and setting that people have been too nervous to try approaching
f507be No.14881245
>>14881226
The game is just walking sim with some stealth elements. It also runs like hot garbage now and the game has a lot of issues with visuals. Probably from them needing to hastily change a bunch of stuff at the last minute to get by the ratings boards. Wait for them to patch it back up so it runs well and mods restore the shit they removed.
92c27f No.14881339
>>14866564
How do people get away with selling hentai games then?
f507be No.14881357
>>14881339
Because they're allowed to the devs are lying about why they censored shit.
8e25a3 No.14881466
>>14881357
Wait so like VNs and shit on steam you mean? I was under the impression that they weren't even rated, just thrown up.
f507be No.14881523
>>14881466
Yeah you don't have to be rated to be on steam. You can't be porn game though and if you are you have to do it via patch outside of steam. Which is exactly what the devs here promised to do until the day before the game came out.
f507be No.14881542
Actual excuses I've seen apologists made
>it doesn't matter that it is censored this game is such a step forward for what is acceptable in video games
>who wants to see a vagina when they already have boobs
>who cares if the game is really buggy AAA games have tons of bugs too
>why did you expect this game that had sex scenes in every trailer and promised to have an 18+ patch to show the sex
>vaginas don't matter it's just a line their crotch would be smooth even if it was there
>why do you need vaginas in a game when there are already penises
acc499 No.14881552
>>14881542
>why do you need vaginas in a game when there are already penises
f507be No.14881787
some more nuggets of wisdom from the shills
>how come you can review a game with less than an hour of playtime?
>why can you return the game after leaving a negative review
>review bombing is an evil thing and hurts the innocent developers who are everyone's friends
>there are actually people buying the game to review it and voice their anger how is this allowed?
9972b5 No.14881823
>>14881787
>there are actually people buying the game to review it and voice their anger how is this allowed?
Holy shit does he not know that he is actively endorsing censorship?
1d669e No.14881827
>>14881823
He doesn't seem to even grasp the idea of capitalism.
f507be No.14881863
>>14881823
>it isn't censorship because this isn't a porn game it's a horror stealth game.
>The censorship doesn't matter so it isn't even censorship.
This is how these people actually think. One positive thing that can be said about the dev is there hasn't been any articles about them crying about harrassment at least. I also haven't seen the devs themselves complaining outside of the 1st day in the dis|cord. Or have I missed something where they whined about being harrassed?
8e25a3 No.14881899
>>14881523
So essentially putting the game on consoles, therefore forcing it to be rated through the ESRB, forced the kid gloves on instead of letting them release it unrated on any other platform. Nah, I get it, sounds legit. Shame devs don/t do that thing where they happen to accidentally leak the full game somewhere as it was meant to be played for free and if you like it, you know, throw them a few dollars. Though after having watched a playthrough why the fuck would you actually wanna play it? Game looks like shit and the cutscene transitions are sharp enough to give you fucking whiplash.
1d669e No.14881923
>>14881899
Speaking of which, I was considering the possibility of a stream, since the game is M rated across all consoles it doesn't go against twitch rules I think, right now I am only testing the broadcasting software, my machine goes full throttle since the game demands more than I have right now (I am slightly above minimum requirements), so, anyone interested in watching the game? I can do it in the afternoon or sooner.
1d669e No.14882193
Here is some quality screenshots, notice that I am using everything low except texture detail, but didn't see any "model detail" option.
9972b5 No.14882203
>>14882193
>hell is run by succubi
Sounds like heaven to me
1d669e No.14882442
>>14882203
aaand the game crashed, not sure how far I was but I am glad I didn't pay for it.
1d669e No.14882587
BTW, uninstalled, not gonna bother streaming that shit, it gives me motion sickness.
454936 No.14882767
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
The deleted scenes are up