5cb232 No.14855796
I hope you guys weren't planning on buying Suda51's games for the next few years. NISA have been sweet talking his pants off for awhile now. So much so that they got the new version of The SIlver Case, but it looks like they're going to be announcing more of Suda's games for ports. With a very special surprise at the very end most likely being Travis Strikes Back.
Suda and Grasshopper are having an event at some convention and NISA have decided to shill it. I hope you're all ready for NISA to continue to live and destroy games thanks to that hack Suda!
c492a5 No.14855814
oh well at least this time they got their hands on hot garbage
f40f64 No.14855818
Don't know why Suda would want NMH 3 to bomb, but fuck that faggot for going to NISA.
0e503b No.14855835
>>14855818
I think he subconsciously wants everything he makes to do terribly so he can still hold claim to his hipster cred.
1b00b0 No.14855843
>>14855835
Nobody bought NMH1 in Japan because they censored it to death.
f40f64 No.14855850
>>14855843
Its ironic that Ubisoft published the game out west and it was somehow less censored.
5d2027 No.14855851
Should have seen the warning signs when NIS published The 25th Ward in japan, that sealed the fate for anything in the future he touches.
Oh well, at least all his best games are held up in licensing hell so NISA can't retroactively destroy his older games
>>14855818
The worst is that the only escape this would be waiting for switch piracy and an uncensored patch since NMH's gets heavily censored in japan so importing isn't an option
5d2027 No.14856152
>>14855851
I take back my "can't retroactively destroy his older games " statement.
The one fucking time capcom could have been greedy fucks and kept an IP locked away they didn't
5cb232 No.14856213
Guess I'll just stick to emulating.
5d2027 No.14856229
>>14856213
You're better off doing that anyways since NISA's PC ports have all been busted and the only new thing in this port is dual audio.
162089 No.14856241
Can I get a quick rundown on NISAs track record?
cf4690 No.14856254
>>14855796
I thought Capcom owned this IP?
e65515 No.14856275
Get normalfags to boycott all of it.
While at it, never spend money on anything with NISA's involvement.
Always wait for piracy to find a way.
5d2027 No.14856284
>>14856241
These cover all the older stuff. It's missing all the botched PC ports, the whole Ys VIII train wreck, accidentally release leaking an entire release of a game early in a demo then delaying the same game for months and a bunch of other shit
5cb232 No.14856290
>>14856254
They gave the publishing rights to NISA apparently.
>>14856241
A shit company with a hateboner against the games they handle. They included a bug in witch and the hundred night that would brick PS3's. Their Disgaea ports would also not be completable due to bugs. They fucked Ys VIII all to hell numerous times. I don't have the massive amounts of images detailing their fuckups, so those are just a few.
b40e52 No.14856291
7b9630 No.14856294
How do people still keep giving them money to ruin their games?
162089 No.14856304
>>14856290
>>14856284
thanks for the rundown
5d2027 No.14856310
>>14856294
It's the french and their anime licensing that's mostly keeping them alive. Until the french grow standards the rest of the world has to suffer with this cancer
db578c No.14856325
Guess Suda is forever on my shitlist. Even if he leaves NISA I will never buy a game from him again.
7b9630 No.14856333
>>14856310
What does french anime have to do with NISA?
8cdd5d No.14856335
>go to store
>see a videogame
>qt girls on it
>mfw NISA every single fucking time
is NISA losing IP's or getting more of them?!
7b9630 No.14856342
>>14856335
Yeah it's the same with funimation and anime blu-rays I had to stop buying them.
5d2027 No.14856359
>>14856333
The french are the source of the majority of NISA's game sales, even more than their sales from North America. They get also get mass amount of money through anime licensing/merchandising
4d6e9f No.14856406
So NISA are publishing, but not actually porting the game. Engine Software is working with Grasshopper for the port.
The leaves the question of who the fuck Engine Software is? They've worked on a whole lot of nothing games. So who knows how the port is actually going to end up.
5d2027 No.14856424
>>14856335
More and more companies are opening up their own localization branches so NISA mad scrambles to grab as many IPs as they can as they lose them.
Like as soon as they lost access to Danganronpa and Spike Chunsoft's IPs they went straight to SNK as a replacement
Lost the rights to GUST's games, went straight to Kadokawa Games
Nep games got stolen from them then they started trying to butter up Falcom
and so on
ad3ed8 No.14856501
So are they promoting the belief that 'women are all the same,' and that they tend to be traitors or abusive whores? Sounds like they're promoting sexism.
Nothing good will come of this port and the SJW crowd is going to force them to re-localize it I swear to Christ
4b8f68 No.14856698
NMH is the only good Suda's franchise.
The rest is trash.
f1a98c No.14856959
>>14855796
I'm very glad that I never liked Suda51's games, but I'm sad to hear that they are going to continue to exist because of him.
5c0235 No.14857032
>>14855818
NMH should have died in NMH1. The fucking ending was perfect.
5cb232 No.14857088
>>14856406
The same story with the Ys 8 port. Throw it off to some no name company and hope for the best. What a bunch of fucking faggots. I'm starting to see people actually defend NISA for their work on Ys 8 by saying it was Falcom's fault for supplying a supposedly "bad dev version" of the game.
a5b117 No.14857096
I pray the cracked version is good.
7cc523 No.14857130
>>14856501
They have got me by the balls here. killer7 is one of my GOATs and I swear to Jesus Christ I will go full Ren if they touch a single thing.
>>14856406
The Silent Hill HD Collection method then? Why is this shit allowed to happen?
649160 No.14857167
>>14856152
>Killer 7 PC release
I'd be lying if I said I weren't interested.
5cb232 No.14857620
THEY JUST ANNOUNCED IT AND THEY ARE ALREADY FUCKING UP. On the Steam page it says it has dual audio, but NISA came in and said it was a mistake.
HOW CAN ONE COMPANY FUCK UP SO MUCH
https://twitter.com/nisamerica/status/1000580680034566146
086887 No.14857622
I dont care who publishes his games, Suda is uncuckable.
Your little boycott isn't going to stop me from enjoying Sudakino.
323600 No.14857628
>>14856406
>Engine Software
Those were the faggots who fucked up terraria otherworld by being a disorganzied cancerous mess.
5cb232 No.14857636
>>14857622
Drink that little jap's cum, anon. Let him slap you with his dick and call you a slut. That's all you are to him. He proved that with Let It Die. He's nothing but a washed up has-been in it only for the money and he's got you and every other retard at his beck and call.
5d2027 No.14857656
>>14857167
Just emulate it, the graphics aren't gonna get better and M&K controllers are gonna be busted like ever other NISA release.
>>14857620
So there is now zero reasons to play the PC port
>>14857622
>Suda is uncuckable.
>The 25th Ward was so poorly localized by NISA that there were multiple puzzles that made no sense in english and players were forced to do trial an error
>NISA still hasn't fixed it
Sure Suda is "uncuckable" but doesn't stop his games from getting cucked.
9b13ba No.14857667
Frankly I see no reason for this except for making fan made levels. Unless this will add content removed due to crunch time, I think I'll just stuck to my gamecube copy.
>>14857130
>go full ren
So doing nothing and letting everyone down after hyping yourself up?
5acf39 No.14857686
Stop mean to NISA, they're the good guys.
24dc70 No.14857738
>>14856406
Wayde Hixon's Counterpunch is actually pretty good. That's the only good thing in their history.
a9ede4 No.14857776
>>14856698
nah, silver case series, killer 7, and flower, sun, and rain are all good
lolipop, shadows of the damned, and the other garbage is just churning out stuff to keep the company afloat
7cc523 No.14857782
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14857776
I'll agree with Lollipop, but Shadows of the Damned was raped by EA decision-wise. Still a damn good soundtrack though.
a9ede4 No.14857797
>>14857656
I don't think NISA did the localization, it looks like grasshopper/active media did, going by the steam page
a9ede4 No.14857812
>>14857130
>The Silent Hill HD Collection method then? Why is this shit allowed to happen?
…nisa is just publishing
7cc523 No.14857829
>>14857812
So was Konami with Silent Hill HD
a9ede4 No.14857879
>>14857829
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Silent_Hill_HD_Collection
Developer(s) Hijinx Studios
Publisher(s) Konami
So, for Killer 7 PC Grasshopper/Active Media is developing (re-developing?) it, NISA is just publishing
this is very different from konami not developing silent hill HD, so what's your point?
7cc523 No.14857903
>>14857879
Read it again faggot, some no name group named Engine Studios that's only ever done shovelware (much like Hijinx) is re-developing it. Take your NISA apologist bullshit somewhere else mate.
a9ede4 No.14857915
>>14857903
…is NISA Engine studios?
If engine studios fucks it up, what does NISA have to do with it?
0ad4b1 No.14857922
>>14857879
something tells me you're just better off playing the originals.
7cc523 No.14857928
>>14857915
>what does NISA have to do with it?
I very much doubt both Capcom and Grasshopper decided on a no-name Dutch studio to work on this. You can't honestly be this ignorant.
a9ede4 No.14857941
>>14857928
NISA isn't the fucking illuminati, I'm looking at the steam page for Silver Case 1, and Grasshopper worked with them previously for the steam release there as well.
grasshopper is letting NISA publish so they can re-focus assets elsewhere, you know, basic corporate shit
a9ede4 No.14857944
>>14857941
>I'm looking at the steam page for Silver Case 1, and Grasshopper worked with them previously for the steam release there as well.
I mean grasshopper worked with active media previously here, WITHOUT Nisa involved
1733a5 No.14857997
>>14857620
Oh my fucking god. How can one company fuck up this much?
SEGA littered Puyo Puyo Tetris's PC port with Denuvo, and even IT has the japanese audio as an option.
d79e42 No.14858050
>>14857941
>defending NISA
>having any hope for the project after their involvement was announced
What kind of dumbfuck are you?
>>14857997
Also, apparently the footage used in the trailer comes from the Dolphin emulator. You can't make this shit up.
52a845 No.14858064
>>14855796
So Suda will have another excuse why his new game bombs?
3e48f7 No.14858104
>>14857776
the shit you say about no more heroes?
ea75af No.14858215
>>14858050
http://archive.is/zo3uk
I swear, this fucking company. How can you be this incompetent?
38c5f9 No.14858350
>>14857620
NISA may be a shitty company, but Killer 7 ain't got JAP audio, fuckhead.
Still, I'm not looking forward to see it to get butchered.
d79e42 No.14858378
>>14857088
Which company ported Ys 8 at the behest of NISA?
a9ede4 No.14858406
>>14858050
>What kind of dumbfuck are you?
im not defending NISA you autistic moron, but GHM/Active are developing the port just like the other games, NISA is just publishing it
do you understand this distinction? the difference between publishing and directing?
faf668 No.14858426
At least NISA didn't announce Cold Steel 3 yet.
595ed4 No.14858828
>I had hoped they would release an official translation of hand in killer7
>if they do it'll be fucked forever
pic related
Oh god.. just make it fucking stop. Pls dutchbros, don't fuck this up
83017c No.14858995
>wanted to play Suda51 games on PC
>NISA take the publishing
This is some fucking miraculous monkey's paw shit happening in real life.
a5b117 No.14859003
>>14858994
>Using Dolphin as promo material
THEY CAN'T KEEP GETTING AWAY WITH THIS
83017c No.14859011
>>14857941
>NISA isn't the fucking illuminati
Are you sure about that, anon?
f79bc6 No.14859044
>wanted Shadows of the Damned on PC for years now
>this happens
d92eac No.14859147
>emulator footage
>4:3 awkwardly put on backgrounds
>awkward ass editing
wew
b57d02 No.14859174
>>14859044
>>14859147
Am I to gather that Grashopper games are coming to PC, being worked on by NISA and that the presentation used emulator footage?
71b968 No.14859181
>>14858050
>Also, apparently the footage used in the trailer comes from the Dolphin emulator. You can't make this shit up.
Yeah in the latter part of the trailer you can see the framerate counter from some older version, around 0:55, it's colored differently but that could be a filter used in making the trailer.
regardless they're still incompetent for letting a framerate counter slip into the final thing.
d92eac No.14859205
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14859174
So far only Killer 7 is confirmed, but chances are NISA got their hands on more titles.
Also, hooktube embed for the trailer. An FPS counter similar to Dolphin's shows up at around 50 seconds.
b57d02 No.14859213
>>14859205
That is truly pathetic. Why do jap companies keep using them? Are they that much cheaper than other companies?
595ed4 No.14859232
>>14859205
It's at 54 secs when the silhouette of kun lan is about to get shot.
Jesus….
8f2f6f No.14859266
>>14858406
NISA probably got the publishing rights first, then looked around for someone to work on the port. This means they are responsible for the selection of the developers (Whoever is cheap), the budget (Pennies) and the quality control (None). Being the publisher doesn't make them exempt from responsibility for what comes from it, nor should you expect anything better than their usual standard.
725873 No.14860192
>>14859213
>Why do jap companies keep using them?
7b9630 No.14860273
>>14860192
I need some link to show me how the french re so responsible.
d4c7a1 No.14860380
Are these Jap companies NOT paying attention at all?
How have they not seen the way NISA bungled the PC port for Ys VIII?
It WAS fucked up on Japan's steam too, wasn't it?
HOW DOES NISA KEEP GETTING TITLES?
7b9630 No.14860406
>>14860380
It was their were Japanese articles written about it.
d4c7a1 No.14860413
>>14860406
There's even less of an excuse these. Why do they keep giving NISA titles? NISA MUST die.
"Restructuring" when
41bbe9 No.14860429
>>14860413
NIS is in a pretty dire situation too after Disgaea 5 saw them loose a ton of talent. So they're probably circling the drain but intent to destroy as many games as they can before they finally die. On another note i wish i knew what the western sales of Ys 8 were like, i haven't seen anyone talking about the game positively at all so i can only assume they were bad.
784dbd No.14860439
>>14860429
most reviewers probably stopped caring after 8 months of delay for the 'fixed' version that's buggy as all hell
d4c7a1 No.14860444
>>14860429
> NIS is in a pretty dire situation too after Disgaea 5 saw them loose a ton of talent
Oh is that so? Before or after the game was made?
> i haven't seen anyone talking about the game positively at all so i can only assume they were bad.
same here. I don't think there's been anything released in regards to the sales figures.
269e92 No.14860446
>>14860380
>implying most japs play on steam
>implying most business suits at the top even know what the fuck steam is
>implying they even know what a Good or Bad PC port would be.
I imagine most of them are as clueless to what gamers want as most western companies are.
7b9630 No.14860451
>>14860429
If there are no stories about sales that means they were bad. If the game sold well the publisher is very excited to share the numbers with people.
d4c7a1 No.14860457
>>14860446
they don't even keep their ear to the ground in regards to what potential partners have been doing though? They wouldn't even read articles (or rather have their interns read them) and learn what's up?
So what i'm gathering here is that these companies do no research of their own on potential partner companies, nor their competitors?
7b9630 No.14860468
>>14860446
The japanese PC market is growing you can tell because Japanese PC versions are actually being made now. In the past the PC versions of Japanese games would not be sold in Japanese. The market is still tiny but it is growing, probably because of the growing popularity of those F2P MMOs. There are so many animes being made about them as well.
2bbbba No.14860477
>nobody has posted the russian roulette yet
I'd like to but I lost it
ad3ed8 No.14860512
>>14860477
I want Smith-posting to be a thing like Bane-posting is, but I don't think that will ever happen
b3155e No.14860516
>>14860380
>jap companies
>caring about waito piggu PC ports
>caring about PC at all in the first place
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAHAHAHHAHHHHHHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHA
784dbd No.14860519
>>14860446
even at the top they likely know what steam is, they're probably being misled about the reception on all levels. westerners must not like falcom games anymore.
d4c7a1 No.14860550
>>14860516
You're missing the point. It's not about the platform, it's about just how poorly NISA handled the job.
41bbe9 No.14860559
>>14860444
>Oh is that so? Before or after the game was made?
After. Basically they restructured a ton of people that worked on it into a new branch and then cut their salaries down to starting levels because they were new employees now:^). So a bunch of em quit and went to Idea Factory/Compile Heart.
>>14860451
>If there are no stories about sales that means they were bad. If the game sold well the publisher is very excited to share the numbers with people.
Truth. I love Ys games so i'm butthurt as fuck over this shit, and i've been waiting on starting the Cold Steel series just in case NISA gets the third one, but at this point i'm willing to see a few more good games sacrificed if it finally kills NISA.
d4c7a1 No.14860588
>>14860559
> NIS restructured
oh, so those rumors I'd heard about NISA restructuring was actually for the home branch. That's pretty disheartening.
> Basically they restructured a ton of people that worked on it into a new branch and then cut their salaries down to starting levels because they were new employees now:^)
that's just plain jewish of them
> So a bunch of em quit and went to Idea Factory/Compile Heart.
Neat. I don't like the mainline Neptunia games, as the battle system got pretty boring pretty fast for me, but I did like Trillion because it felt kind of like Disgaea, barring a lot of the depth Disgaea has. and I want to take a stab at 4 Godesses since it's an ARPG.
> I love Ys games so i'm butthurt as fuck over this shit
I've only played the first 3 so far, waiting for the Memories of Celceta port, but I'm miffed too, especially after hearing Ys VIII has supposedly turned out to be one of the better Ys titles, story and gameplay wise.
5e32b3 No.14860604
>>14860559
>I've been waiting on starting the Cold Steel series just in case NISA gets the third one
I've played them, and I feel there is enough closure at the end of 2 that I could never play 3 and still feel like I played a mostly complete series.
86c202 No.14860619
>>14856406
the only two ports I recognize on the wikipedia list are Terraria on the Vita, which was a decent port to the Vita, which is to be expected. The other one I recognize is Monopoly on the Switch due to the game apparently being an awful port of the game due to terrible AI, among other issues.
b7dd21 No.14860841
Good thing i already own the fucker on gamecube, cant imagine what the pc would add to a cel shaded game anyhow.
>>14856342
In Sonymation's case its because they virtually own a monopoly on the US anime after every other company either splintered or went under in the mid to late 00s and they bought up the rights. Only competition i can think of at this point is VIZ(which uses canadians to produce their anime), and sentai filmworks.
7b9630 No.14860853
>>14860619
Apparently they are as incompetant as NISA and are responsible for the cancellation of Terraria Otherworld. There's a webm of a guy who came in to "save" the project after they had worked on it for a year. When he showed up he found that they did absolutely nothing and none of them would admit to any wrongdoing.
>>14860841
I didn't know VIZ was Canadian or that they even still existed.
b7dd21 No.14860874
>>14860853
I dont think viz themselves are canadian, they just outsource the dubs there.
b7dd21 No.14860881
Also theyre still hanging on, they have hunter x hunter running on the new toonami nostalgia block, for example.
f9ad40 No.14860920
>>14856241
I want his big think inside my boypussy
300da9 No.14860960
>>14857130
>Going full Ren
So being a disappointment, and not doing anything you said you would. They'll be terrified i'm sure.
0ad4b1 No.14861134
>>14861079
>16:9 cucks btfo yet again
damn it feels good to have a 480p 4:3 monitor for these games
f45dab No.14861257
>>14855796
>yet another old franchise taken apart by greedy socjus leaning faggots
You know, part of me almost wants to make a company to buy out all those old IPs that didn't get much attention from the general public but still have a good cult following behind them, just to sit on them and release the games on a different platform than the usual suspects. Almost.
1733a5 No.14862297
>>14860380
They probably work for cheap. That's my only guess to how NiSA keeps getting localization contracts. Most Jap companies don't wanna pay for an actual localization team since that would cost so much money for a niche game that probably won't even do that well outside of Japan, so paying NiS dirt cheap to do it means higher profit margins (at least in the short term.)
Nintendo, SEGA, and Atlus can do their own localizations for they're such big companies. Grasshopper doesn't have that luxury, especially since SUDA51's recent games haven't been doing very hot.
b7dd21 No.14862326
>>14862297
>Grasshopper doesn't have that luxury, especially since SUDA51's recent games haven't been doing very hot.
Isn't that company owned by Gungho though, pretty sure they have SOME kind of localization team in place considering all the fucking Ragnarok and Puzzles and dragons shit they do.
1733a5 No.14862341
>>14862326
Most of the Puzzles & Dragons games were not localized. There was that one that was the Super Mario themed one BING BING WAHOO but Nintendo Treehouse handled that, as well as the 3DS port.
In fact, looking through this I think a lot of Gungho's games were translated by other people. Ubisoft handled the publishing of No More Heroes in North America after all.
c84b11 No.14862692
87a896 No.14862694
Could anybody who knows Nip email them and tell them this is a terrible idea?
506acb No.14863424
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14857656
>>14857620
The only difference in audio between the Japanese version and other releases are the voices of the remnant psyches being shitty text-to-speech in the Japanese version and garbled in the other versions.
Regardless, there's already a mod to replace the voices for the GameCube version, which emulates perfectly in Dolphin. No real reason to get this new PC port.
https://www.moddb.com/mods/killer7-engrish-dub
ea75af No.14863493
>>14861257
There's always Night Dive unless they've done something I'm not aware of.
b3155e No.14863604
>>14860550
>You're missing the point
I ain't missing anything.
NISA is incompetent, they can't handle jack shit, that should be obvious even to japs, but hey, guess what? The japs don't fucking care!
14e9f2 No.14863611
>>14860604
CS2 ends with Rean being separated from the friends he fought so hard to reunite and becoming an unwilling pawn to the real villain of the story. How did you think that was a satisfying conclusion?
d751d5 No.14863614
14e9f2 No.14863618
>>14863604
Except this time japs do care because NISA ported Ys8 for PC for the Japanese market as well, so japs got a taste of the buggy trash they've been turning a blind eye to.
b3155e No.14863624
>>14863618
>PC for the Japanese market
>PC
>Japanese market
Laughing Out Loud, as the kids say.
5bcaeb No.14863629
>>14860841
>>14860874
There's a handful of surviving ones. Funi and Viz seem to the be the ones that own the rights to most of what is actually aired on TV, while NISA, Nozomi/The Right Stuf, and Sentai Filmworks either seem to be straight to DVD/BluRay here, or if they do "air" are probably only online.
14e9f2 No.14863668
>>14863624
Japan does have computers, they just don't build gayman PCs because they have 0 interest in western AAA games for "some reason".
Ys can run on toasters so it's not hard to play it on their eroge machines.
d84e46 No.14863708
>>14863668
>they just don't build gayman PCs because they have 0 interest in western AAA games for "some reason".
They never shut the fuck up about games like the Elder Scrolls and I'm pretty sure some of them bought into the Last of Us meme.
0d459a No.14863735
>>14863668
>they have 0 interest in western AAA games
Skyrim and Fallout 4 is massive over there, a lot of the big modders for those games are Japs.
5cb232 No.14863781
>>14863611
because it furthers Rean's despair. Cs2 isn't a conclusion, at least for Rean. Rean's conclusion will be CS4 and it will be worth it to see that man be saved
b84243 No.14863848
>>14863708
>last of us meme
as opposed to morromeme?
60b226 No.14874078
cef749 No.14874103
>>14857032
Unironically agree, i know some people who started the series with NMH2 and never appreciated the first one.
7b9630 No.14874511
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
Did anyone see Suda's twitter how much of this is true was retweeting out anti-NISA stuff?
5cb232 No.14874515
>>14874511
He was most likely just retweeting shit he saw about Killer7 and not actually understanding what it was he was retweeting.
7b9630 No.14874546
>>14874515
Yeah that's what the video said but I would really love to see some of these tweets.
5cb232 No.14875438
>>14874546
This is the only one I know about
4b1ac9 No.14875495
Fuck. Guess I'm not buying Travis Returns.
7b9630 No.14875496
The funniest part is NISA is a sugar-coating of the truth of who is actually porting it. NISA at least releases a game that maybe someday mods can fix Engine Software cannot even release a PC game most of the time.
5cb232 No.14875562
>>14875495
Apparently Marvelous managed to snag that one. So I expect XSEED to bring that over unless NISA made a really good deal and Suda gave Marvelous the Euro release and NISA the NA release.
7b9630 No.14875691
>>14875562
I thought Marvelous owned Grasshopper.
b99507 No.14875711
>I hope you guys weren't planning on buying Suda51's games for the next few years.
Won't be hard considering he's never made even one good game.