ae7684 No.14836189
Grand Strategy Games
Archive
https://pastebin.com/UpzXwLvE
>Where do mods go and other info?
https://pastebin.com/dTCRqZuN
>Anon's Edits (EU4, CK2 and V2)
https://pastebin.com/VZumvXiR
This Day in History, May 23th
>1430 Burgundians capture Joan of Arc and sell her to the English.
>1618 The Thirty Years War begins.
>1701 Captain William Kidd, the Scottish pirate, is hanged on the banks of the Thames.
>1785 Benjamin Franklin announces his invention of bifocals.
>1915 Italy declares war on Austria-Hungary.
>1945 Heinrich Himmler, the head of the Nazi Gestapo, commits suicide after being captured by Allied forces.
>1949 The Federal Republic of West Germany is proclaimed.
>1960 Israel announces the capture of Nazi Adolf Eichmann in Argentina.
26880d No.14836240
Paradox will fuck up that new Rome game with mobile gaym tier point collecting.
faa98a No.14836264
>>14836240
That's a given.
93b221 No.14836282
>>14836240
From the screenshot i saw, not sure if it was legit or not, it looks like its just a reskinned eu4 anyway.
I really wish they would update their engine, but meh, i've got some ideas for my own grand strategy that ill start when i have the time.
26880d No.14836354
>>14836282
>i've got some ideas for my own grand strategy that ill start when i have the time.
Please make a globe map or a non shitty map projection.
faa98a No.14836363
>>14836282
>i've got some ideas for my own grand strategy that ill start when i have the time.
So you won't. Even if you do, you will give up fast.
>meh
>i
>ill
3e3c94 No.14836390
>>14836282
>it looks like its just a reskinned eu4 anyway.
more like reskinned EU:Rome
I wouldn't be surprised if version 1.0 was just EU:Rome with updated graphics
954695 No.14836419
>>14836282
It's literally just EU: Rome with the Reign of the Ancients mod mentioned in the OP image.
4ff84f No.14836627
>>14836282
>reskinned eu4
as >>14836390 says, it looks very much like EU: Rome, but with mana tacked on and without colonisation.
Seeing as how it has HoI4-like microprovinces, I wonder how war will be done. Will it just be "soldier steps on province, means it's yours now", or will there be negotiations like in the other titles? If so, will that result in border gore never before seen by man? Or maybe there will be some bigger provinces containing smaller provinces? I guess I just don't understand the logic of using a wargame province system in an ancient setting. In ww2 where you have fronts and shit, it makes perfect sense, but why have it in ancient Rome, where no such things existed and you didn't fight for every square inch for territory?
b9f5fe No.14836697
Am I playing on easy if I abuse Satan every game?
954695 No.14836709
>>14836627
>Seeing as how it has HoI4-like microprovinces, I wonder how war will be done. Will it just be "soldier steps on province, means it's yours now", or will there be negotiations like in the other titles?
I assume it'll be something like the war system in Stellaris actually. Where you can settle for status quo and borders move a little more fluidly than in EU4.
954695 No.14836714
>>14836697
I'd say you are if you play with any supernatural events.
eaa765 No.14836750
We can safely assume that the game will have mana out the ass, bugs and balancing issues out the ass, women in historically dubious positions out the ass and of course DLC out the ass.
4ff84f No.14836759
>>14836709
that system is fucking garbage though. You either utterly crush the enemy and grab his 5 planets, or you crush him only a little and grab his 5 planets, but several years sooner. You also can't offer to settle for lower gains in exchange for peace – crushing the enemy enough to accept status quo takes forever, even if he is losing terribly.
EU4's system is actually fairly good (definitel the most complex) and I don't understand why they don't use it in their other games.
ea6792 No.14836786
>>14836282
>reskinned eu4
Precisely. The point system shown in pic is that of EU4, using only different icons.
4ff84f No.14836811
>>14836786
I don't think that's prestige, as prestige gets capped at 100. Maybe we'll get 4 manas instead of 3 now?
ea6792 No.14836825
>>14836811
Possibly. Either way, they didn't go through the trouble of making the game distinct enough from EU4 to overhaul the point system for it correspond to the peculiarities of the time period more accurately, as they did with Crusader Kings and Victoria.
954695 No.14836826
>>14836759
>that system is fucking garbage though
It's more an issue with Stellaris' doomstack-centric warfare and the new war exhaustion mechanics than anything. If used properly it could work in a classical setting and we should see more natural borders form along terrain that armies traditionally had trouble dealing with. I fully anticipate Paradox fucking it up regardless, but I don't find anything wrong with the system in theory.
4ff84f No.14836831
>>14836363
I recall there being some anon working on a game set around the fall of Rome. I wonder if he's still working at it or if he gave up
8611a3 No.14836837
>>14836240
>>14836282
>>14836786
wasnt out there a Knights of Honor like game about the roman period that came out like in 2015? that game wasnt shilled enough
faa98a No.14836846
>>14836831
There are different people saying that several times a year just here on fullchan. Nothing every comes out of it, because at the end of the day an actually proper game like that does require a lot of effort to make even before getting to the programming itself, which is not easy too.
2d900c No.14836936
What's a good army composition for cwe?
b35cc2 No.14837071
>new rome will not have two consuls/kings
3e3c94 No.14837541
>>14836786
>reskinned eu4
No. That's like saying EU:Rome is reskinned EU3 which isn't true because both games plays differently.
Trade routes, POPs and characters are from EU:Rome. There's also more unit types than in EU4. Only the fort system and mana seems to be taken from EU4.
96af60 No.14837553
>>14836786
The big issue with EU4 is mana for technology. If they unlink technology from mana and have mana used specifically for internal management of the empire it wouldn't be too awful.
a3c1ee No.14837581
Does anyone else dress up while playing /gsg/ I usually wear my chainmail
4ff84f No.14837594
>>14837581
is the chainmail a bikini?
26880d No.14837796
>>14837581
I usually wear my sallet
and gambeson
faa98a No.14837803
>>14837581
Summer is close so I will be playing in boxers soon. Though I have already done that a few times this year.
c6d4cc No.14837942
>>14837581
i have a feldmütze but i dont wear in this heat
f27be2 No.14838151
>>14837581
I only play /gsg/ while naked, especially in summer. It can get pretty hot here.it's more immersive that way.
faa98a No.14838443
>>14838151
Why naked, though? I don't like the idea of my ass sitting on my bed. No matter how clean I am keeping it, the idea makes me uncomfortable.
e88c71 No.14838564
>>14836786
>>14837071
At this point I'm happy that Swedistan imported their shitskins so that Paradox studios have the possibility of getting enriched by the religion peace.
These marxist pricks are dumbing everything down and turning every game into touch screen compatible games for soccer moms.
4c8ea4 No.14838709
>>14838443
>not roleplaying as medieval howard hughes fucking with nations with your sack hanging about
It's like you hate fun anon.
e88c71 No.14838880
>>14838443
>not giving yourself an easy access for scratching your balls during intense battles and in case of removing kebab masturbation
I play every game in ironman mode.
faa98a No.14838941
>>14838709
>>14838880
Having my boxers on and having my dick out don't interfere with one another.
afd1fc No.14840138
>>14836846
There's the "When the World Stopped Making Sense" mod for CK2 at least.
4ff84f No.14841263
>>14838880
>I play every game in ironman mode.
Tried it, but having the game lag every single month so that it can save made me dismiss that idea pretty quick.
faa98a No.14841344
>start as Bulgaria at 769
>Krum, my Kinsmen, starts conquering the North by himself
Do I even need to play?
4ff84f No.14841392
>look into parajew forum about the rome game
>faggots asking for "army automation" like in HoI4
>some brave cuck dares ask for "no mana pls", gets dogpiled by other drones with semantics about just what is or isn't "mana" and how they love monarch points
>"I am disappointed that there will only be one consul for Rome… But it looks like good DLC material! Let's hope for an Internal Politics DLC!"
>pls focus on India as much as you focus on Rome. I want to play India.
Their forum is a cesspool of utter cancer. If this is where they get their feedback from, no wonder their games are shit. Also bigger map in pic related
c79d25 No.14841416
>>14841392
You can only sign up for their forum if you bought one of their games if I recall correctly, it's no suprise that it's full of retarded normalfags who love mana since no sane person would give money to Parakike.
a8a296 No.14841420
>>14841416
I think its you can only go into the forum of games you own. But don't hold me to that.
4ff84f No.14841428
>>14841416
you can only access the subforums of games you bought. Unreleased games and similar, such like this, are on the public side and anyone can access them. Once this game releases, all the mods and similar will again be locked behind the forum wall, accessible only to good goys.
Luckily, most mods (especially the big ones) also release their shit on Steam, and it's easy to get mods from there even without owning the game.
faa98a No.14841517
I decided to play a little more and accidentally got Constantinople. If it wasn't me Krum would have snatched it probably.
4149ba No.14841525
>>14841392
Paradox's managing of the forums is probably the scummiest shit they do.
Reminder they permanently removed EU3 and HoI3 sections to better push the sequels.
7ed573 No.14841534
Lets not forget about the "Respectfully disagree" thing and kebab being a banable offense.
faa98a No.14841536
>>14841525
>Reminder they permanently removed EU3 and HoI3 sections to better push the sequels.
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?forums/europa-universalis-iii.323/
Doesn't seem so?
3e3c94 No.14841540
>>14841525
>Reminder they permanently removed EU3 and HoI3 sections to better push the sequels.
faa98a No.14841679
Bulgaria on 3 seas they said.
4ff84f No.14841695
>>14841344
>low crown authority pagan
So you decided to play an observer game?
e88c71 No.14841775
>>14841263
It's not the game mode that's iron.
>>14841392
>>14841416
The fact that you can't download mods irks me the most.
And when I was looking for the new MEIOU on plebbit, one of developers said that they aren't allowed posting links to mods on other sites due to being one of the conditions for getting mod tools.
The whole corporate section of parajew deserves to be shot in the back of the head.
>>14841679
Censor that shit anon.
4ff84f No.14841790
>Rome game ends in 14AD
So they decided to sell Christianity as a DLC, it seems.
faa98a No.14841793
>>14841775
The mega is down again, but here you go a link from anon in the last thread www.mediafire.com/file/2ncms8vhs159i4j/M%26T_v2.50.00.7z
e88c71 No.14841803
>>14841790
>implying Christ even existed
>>14841793
I was that anon but thanks anyway. Good to have it in the thread so people don't waste time with vanilla.
4ff84f No.14841813
>>14841775
>And when I was looking for the new MEIOU on plebbit, one of developers said that they aren't allowed posting links to mods on other sites due to being one of the conditions for getting mod tools.
If you want mods and don't want to give your shekels to Johan, just find the mod on Steam (no need to have an account) and copy the URL. Then search for "steam workshop downloader" and the first few results should all be sites where you just paste the URL and it'll download the mod for you.
321fb4 No.14841902
>>14841679
unite all slavs by pen or sword
4ff84f No.14841908
>>14841902
>bulgars
>slavic
6f8858 No.14842036
>>14841993
All that bordergore and it's only been like 36 years since the start of your campaign.
7cbc74 No.14842062
>>14842035
>finally progress in the longest game I've played and can see the finish line in the distance
>new release
God dammit, HIP.
3e3c94 No.14842074
>>14841993
I wonder if Paradox is ever going to fix those gray spots in major rivers. It's seriously distracting.
f82761 No.14842191
>>14841993
Damn, that is a long Saxony up there.
faa98a No.14842277
I shouldn't have started a vanilla game. Sure some mod has the Bulgarian Empire?
Though through further research I learned I can create a custom empire through the Charlemagne DLC if I have 8k prestige.
7cbc74 No.14842305
>>14842277
You should have all of the DLC downloaded anyway and be playing with HIP
6f8858 No.14842398
>>14842277
Even if you are playing the game on Steam, you can still use pirated DLCs. Use HIP as well. Playing vanilla is a dreadful experience.
faa98a No.14842430
>>14842398
I got it for free on Steam for the forum shite, but I have it pirated with all DLCs to begin with. Won't restart my game just to start with a mod, though.
faa98a No.14842613
>fighting Byzantine
>winning
>close to 100%
>suddenly this Khagan nigger becomes the emperor
e09f21 No.14842660
Is it normal to start getting pretty significant slow down around 100 years into a game of HIP?
Also, managed to get my leprous disfigured uncle to the papacy. He later became a saint too.
84e128 No.14842705
>>14841993
Take Moravia and encircle Avaria with your borders for the ultimate border gore
7ed573 No.14842711
>>14842613
You distracted the Greeks while the guy adventured his way to the throne, looks like.
faa98a No.14842731
>>14842705
Avaria barely exists.
faa98a No.14842755
>>14842731
So I started a subjugating war against Moravia, which had become bigger. The war made it split internally. I won and now I have encircled Bohemia and the newly created Hradec instead. And the leftovers of Avaria.
faa98a No.14842836
>>14842833
And with the new color.
c79d25 No.14842847
>>14842836
Have you already reformed the faith? And is Saxony still Norse? I can imagine this is going to end up with a really unusual religious map after 2 centuries or so.
b35cc2 No.14842854
>>14842660
>likes jews
>called 'the mutilator'
Got yourself the patron saint of circumcision it seems.
faa98a No.14842884
>>14842847
Saxony is Germanic, which is considered Norse in vanilla (with DLCs). I am still Tengri and Byz is Tengri. I want to go Orthodoxy, but I can't find an Orthodoxy wife/concubine to take. And there are no Orthodoxy priests to come from anywhere. Only Catholics.
By the way Italy is Lollard
faa98a No.14842916
>>14842884
Oh God. I just realized that Byz is attacking Italy. I weakened the Byzantium Empire so the throne can be stolen and become stronger and fucking form a proper Roman Empire. What a big mistake.
faa98a No.14842920
>>14842916
Okay, maybe I am getting ahead of myself. As they are Tengri surely if they attack the Papacy there will be a holy war against them. Though I am not sure if Austrasia and whatever France there is can win such a war at this point.
c79d25 No.14842965
>>14842884
If possible, go Zoroastrian. It would make for an interesting game.
faa98a No.14842990
RIP Saxony.
Tengri is going to rule the world it seems.
faa98a No.14842994
>>14842990
I guess I had to wait 5 seconds more for Avaria to complete be gone. There is only one country of Bohemia in my empire, just because. Can't do anything about Byz despite him being in war with Italy and having a revolt, because of his event death stack.
84e128 No.14842996
>>14842994
If you are bored try switching to some other guy from your dynasty and make the empire implode
4ff84f No.14843000
>>14842996
if he's bored, he should try playing some nobody on the other side of the map and then try to build up fast enough to be able to beat his previous empire while it blobs at an exponential rate. Reformed pagans with low crown authority are fucking terrifying – the vassals do joint holy wars on everything in vicinity while the head spams great holy war.
faa98a No.14843154
And so Austrasia choked. Meanwhile I reached the Baltic Sea. Byz went back to Iconoclast. Italy became Catholic.
7ed573 No.14843216
>Khazars in northern Germany
faa98a No.14843237
>>14843154
Actually I lied. Italy is still Lollard. I was looking at something else, I guess.
Byz cucked itself with Iconoclast, revolts and wars, so now I can beat it again. Immediately got Kaliopolis.
Actually getting my heir in throne wouldn't be bad right now, because I can probably subjugate Byz in their current state.
c79d25 No.14843257
>>14843216
So just like in real life?
faa98a No.14843306
And so Bohemia is gone too.
faa98a No.14843323
>>14843306
So now that my wife died I was finally able to fine an Orthodox wife and I can convert, but I am not sure if I want to. Letting my heir subjugate the whole of Byz would help me quit the game, though I am on the verge of some civil wars.
faa98a No.14843349
Well, fuck. I thought Byz was finally weak again, but without me realizing they fucking got most of Italy.
faa98a No.14844487
Well this is probably my last update as I wouldn't expect to continue this game tomorrow, soon or probably even ever. Though it would be nice to eventually get Greece (without Anatolia). In-game they are still only revolting against Byz, though. They haven't won yet. And as I say that I see the Muslims going beyond Iberian. I might have to play to actually fix that. Meanwhile my vassals are blobbing the empire more by themselves.Orthodox conversion is going very slowly.
The reason why I was even playing Bulgaria today is because on the 24th of May Bulgarians celebrate the creation of the Cyrillic alphabet. Other Slavic countries celibate it too, if it is politically acceptable to do so, as it implies the strong connection of the Bulgarians to the creation of the Cyrillic.
f82761 No.14844646
>>14844487
What's going on with that tiny empire in Crimea? Is the little tengri revolt in Sicily against that one?
bd2293 No.14844739
I'm making a mod for hearts of iron 3 that will make it the best game of the series. I'm taking the base game and adding the good things from black ice rather than removing the bad things from black ice since there are more bad things in that mod than good.
Some things I'd like to point out though that people have never noticed from playing black ice: heavy ic is never worth it (not even on provinces with 10IC), and military colleges don't work (they only set unit experience at 3% rather than raise it by 3%)
faa98a No.14844756
>>14844646
>>14844646
That is Khwaliz, two Catholic provinces that have freed themselves from Khazaria somehow. And now idea how you relate it with Sicily. I don't think you are using the correct therms.
Byzantium has 2 revolts against it. One is a Greek one, they are also Iconoclasts. The other is a Tengri revolt in Italy, but not the whole of Italy. So the Byz Empire is holding currently only a very small part of Italy and parts of Anatolia into the Armenia, but the revolts are in progress, not finalized.
>>14844739
Good luck.
d7748f No.14844798
I'm so tired of EU4, what else can i play unti EU:Rome comes out?
I've been playing HOI4 but it's too shallow and i get bored quickly.
CK2 is too autistic for me and i can't get into it. Any recs?
Pic related my playtime on EU4
2d900c No.14844824
>>14844798
The answer will always be vicky2
d7748f No.14844834
>>14844824
the old gen of pdx games is also beyond me lol
I've tried though
2d900c No.14844861
>>14844834
You must embrace the autism.
faa98a No.14844924
>>14844834
>lol
>>14844869
Clearly. Then how do you expect us to propose you a game that doesn't exist? Just fuck off.
bd2293 No.14844971
>>14844756
>Good luck
Won't take me long and I already got a lot of the work done. Right now I'm looking into the decision stuff and will modify it to prevent nonsensical events from happening such as NS USA embargoing all axis members and declaring war on them because it's CURRENT_YEAR. I've already got a good understanding of decisions and have made my own (for myself, not for release) such as a decision that will declare war on all countries at the same time which you can activate at any time for a fun survival game which I like to play on custom game mode with Cuba.
So far I have:
All of the buildings included from black ice such as hospitals, research labs, tank factories and so on
All buildings can be built in parallel in the production tab, even those from base game such as infrastructure
Black Ice combat multipliers
f1ea03 No.14844990
>>14844869
>>14844834
>>14844798
>the modern Paracocks fan can only wrap his head around HoI4 and EU4, cant even understand CK2
No wonder their games have become more mechanically watered down meme blob simulators instead of historical strategy games with every release.
2d900c No.14845020
>>14845008
>that pic
What the fuck man?
I used to play super mario bros when i was like 4 with my mom on my dad's famicom, how braindead must you be to be unable to beat it?
b35cc2 No.14845062
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14844990
>>14845008
>gamers can't handle non-linear gameplay
>games that give players a chose are bad game design
dfa066 No.14845100
>>14845062
Thinking sure is hard. I'm glad game designers remove my choices so I don't have to think about things like my character.
A lot of people would think the problem with many choices is nothing more than a balance issue, but I'm glad modern game designers push through this kind of stupid thinking.
f1ea03 No.14845104
>>14845062
>>14845008
We have to start killing people.
52b039 No.14845106
>>14845008
>Many of them did not read [the instruction manual] and the few that did stopped after the first page which did not cover any of the game mechanics.
>game mechanics
My faith in humanity has not yet dropped so low that I can bring myself to believe people can't figure out what two giant red fucking buttons on a controller do.
d64f5f No.14845136
>>14845062
non-linear/open world games are usually shit and the best games are all games which have a linear design meant to deliver unique challenges which progressively test the player on increasing challenges over time. Open world/non-linear games can't rely on the player to have a grasp of those increasing challenges so they never ramp up in difficulty, or if they do its poorly implemented, and they rarely ever have deep mechanics.
it's harder to make a good linear game than it is a "good" open world game. everyone will eat up your shit if it's open world.
94f4dc No.14845811
What are possible reasons for not being able to change government? I can't even look at the choices, but it won't give me a reason why.
29db92 No.14845826
>>14843257
Kek. Bad guys won ww2… Khazaria Uber Alles it is >>>/p01/
bd2293 No.14845865
>>14845811
what game are you referring to?
94f4dc No.14845886
>>14845865
EU4, with the the VeF overhaul and Glory of Byzantium submod. I'm playing as vinland if that affects anything.
f82761 No.14845888
>>14845438
>>14845811
What's the government type? It might be a government type that can't change government. Wiki says you can only change within government types, so if you made a government of its own type, well, no governments you can change to. Also, I think you need 100 Admin mana to even check what you can change to.
94f4dc No.14845912
>>14845888
You can check even if you don't have enough mana or the right tech level. Vinland has standard feudal monarchy.
nice trips
bd2293 No.14845935
why do these generals only talk about faggot games that require no strategy? Your games look lame as fuck and nobody cares about your faggot family, religion, and how their assholes work.
416a0e No.14845980
Daily reminder that HOI4 kaiserreich is definitely not run by syndie scum. They are fair and balanced with their approach to kaiserreich and their new updates will continue to show this.
96af60 No.14846054
>>14845008
This is a parody site you retards.
>>14845062
Every video I've seen from this shitty channel has been insufferably annoying and stupid.
f82761 No.14846105
>>14845980
>Dinky two focuses for fascism
>Nein to commies
I can't give two shits about HOI4 and even I know this is stupid.
b73d2a No.14846121
>>14845980
>Gommies are attracted to fictional history mod
Conceptualize my bewilderment
b35cc2 No.14846132
>>14845980
>>14846121
Know anything about Fuhrerreich? Is it the same commie shit?
b73d2a No.14846193
>>14846132
It's a spinoff of Kaiserreich, so I would assume anything that has to do with that cancerous tumor is gommie shit.
416a0e No.14846230
>>14846132
i found the timeline they set for it https://time.graphics/line/63246
i wouldn't have any hope for it to be good.
ca008e No.14846234
I've been playing Victoria 2 for almost 300 hours now yet I don't have a real understanding of how economics work. I've read cool stories of anons dumping the market with artificial dye and causing the UK to go bankrupt but I don't know if that's true or not. I'm so shit at industry, even playing Germany I should easily be able to surpass UK in industry but don't.
My brainlet understanding is to make as many factories that you can supply with your RGOs, but even then some factories go bankrupt and don't get their daily needs. I've had a surplus of coal, yet some factories requiring coal didn't get coal.
77a3a5 No.14846267
>>14846121
>ideologys
>P A T E R N A L A U T O C O R R E C T
0012d0 No.14846268
I"m a ck2 newbie. I started off as a count in ire land and now control all of it. My game was interesting, a crusade established the catholic nordic kingdom of Jerusalem. The huge caliphates called a jihad on the kingdom of Jerusalem and lost. Jerusalem then conquered mecca and converted it to Catholicism.
bd2293 No.14846277
2d900c No.14846281
>>14846234
Anon,just build liquor factories.
f1ea03 No.14846302
>>14846121
>Paternal Autocorrect
af8784 No.14846308
>>14846234
Yeah I have nearly 900 hours and I have no idea how the economics work either. I have done things like having a near monopoly on rubber therefore I'm the only nation with tanks.
b73d2a No.14846357
>>14846121
>Paternal Autocorrect
ca008e No.14846364
>>14846281
lel I do but some of them manage to go bankrupt when I have enough resources to supply them I don't get it.
>>14846308
Brilliant strategy, I'm too dumb to think of that. Well I suppose I'll just spam liqour factories.
Another question, how the fuck do I get it running on wine? I have the correct dlls installed through winetricks.
b73d2a No.14846373
>>14846308
>I have done things like having a near monopoly on rubber
What nation are you? Netherlands? UK?
d7748f No.14846380
>>14844990
Hoi4 is a bit watered down but its better than hoi3 that thing was a clusterfuck. They are adding fuel in the next dlc and i hope it'll bring it closer to the depth of hoi3
2d900c No.14846389
>>14846380
>game about WW2
>oil is a dlc
Wew.
bd2293 No.14846390
>>14846380
>hoi3 that thing was a clusterfuck
how so?
d7748f No.14846391
701fa7 No.14846394
>>14844487
>bulgarian empire
>doesn't have macedonia
This is a bad blob. At least you got the TRI MORETA meme
91a89d No.14846400
>>14846054
>This is a parody site you retards.
Still funny and probably closer to the truth than anyone would like. Give a kid today a gameboy and they'll ask you why there's no touch screen.
f1ea03 No.14846404
>>14846380
>its better than hoi3 that thing was a clusterfuck
If you couldn't figure out CK2 or Vic2 then it comes as absolutely no surprise that you'd find HoI3 inscrutable. The one thing HoI4 did better was the production line system, otherwise it was dumbed down retardation in every other aspect.
>They are adding fuel in the next dlc
Two years after release and in a DLC holy fucking wow that's a new low even for Parajew.
4ff84f No.14846405
>>14844739
the thing I hate about HoI3 is the god awful border gore. For example, if you play as Japan, ally Germany, and attack dutch east indies, then once you get enough VPs, it's germany who will get to annex it, since they will hold the capital. Leading to the east indies belonging mainly to Germany with some Japanese blotches. And it's like that with everything.
bd2293 No.14846688
>>14846405
You can open up the console window with ~ and give yourself any province you want. That's what I do to prevent that while fighting a war. I forgot what the commands were, but they're up online.
e2951d No.14846951
>>14846121
The funny thing is, for a brief period of time I thought Kaiserreich is just another German fanwank with them winning the war in the most absurd way, but it's much, much worse. Even in the DH version Syndies are insanely powerful. HoI IV is even worse. They actually patch out viable strategies for going nationalist.
4eed64 No.14846987
>>14846400
It's bullshit. My 2 year old brother can finish the first level of Super Mario.
f5e318 No.14846999
>>14845062
I think a lot of anons here are just being edgy and / or contrarian, the video does have a few good points. As a whole I don't agree with it, especially the bits about simplifying games (and I dislike Extra Credits with a passion), but it is true that just dumping a bunch of stuff on the player up-front at the start is bad design since players have no way of understanding the data. Just taking a big choice and spreading it out to make it more manageable, like through a tutorial, does not take away any complexity of the game and is overall a better approach.
c79d25 No.14847038
>>14845826
Fuck off cuckchan.
cb979d No.14847066
Any one of you guys have a link to the latest Elder Kings update? The mod author made it so you need to have a Parajew account and link it to your steam account. I don't have either.
4ff84f No.14847084
>>14846688
Yeah, but with how many provinces there are in HoI3, that's a goodamn bitch to do. Not to mention this shit should be handled by event and decisions. Lack of flavour in HoI3 is what makes it inferior to DH, where such things are usually handled (for example divving Greece with your allies)
faa98a No.14847089
>>14847066
You damn lazy fuck. Spend 10 seconds on a search engine and you would know you are wrong.
4ff84f No.14847092
>>14846951
>Even in the DH version Syndies are insanely powerful
But all you have to do is hold the border for like half a year, before they run out of manpower and you steamroll them.
cb979d No.14847146
>>14847089
I did. That's the info I'm getting from the ModDB page and the mod author page. I'll just need to dial back my version then.
faa98a No.14847168
>>14847146
There is no newer version than the one on moddb.
3e3c94 No.14847860
>>14847168
Wrong. There's actually version compatible with 2.8 patch but you have to install SVN to get it. The ModDB version is for 2.6 patch.
91a89d No.14848005
>>14846987
Perhaps but /v/ is nothing if not prone to hyperbole.
e88c71 No.14848124
>>14845980
>uh our people will just turn communist if we go down that tree
Remember when making a fascist or communist USA was a big matter of luck in the elections as well as skill in HoI 2?
Now, it's a matter of a single click. We should start doing this >>14845104
>They are fair and balanced with their approach to kaiserreich and their new updates will continue to show this.
>four options for communism, one even in another tree and all of them completely the same
>the other one in the liberalism tree is cartoonishly against the reds
>LARPagan for that one autistic kid
>we'll just throw that generic racial superiority in there to settle the nazis
>fair and balanced
Good thing that the Darkest Hour version isn't that pozzed. If you're a developer, you should get with the others and drink some laced koolaid.
d7748f No.14848183
New info released on Imperator:Rome
https://youtu.be/83FxSUjDvjc
faa98a No.14848212
>>14848183
I can't manage listening to Johan's cucked voice.
e88c71 No.14848309
>>14848183
First nation that he mentions is Judea 2:03
>civic, oratory, religious and military is a resource
For fucks sake. I'm raging at 3:00 already.
And I see they ripped off the EU 4 Rome mode.
dc0720 No.14848326
>>14848309
>new innovative ideas
>4 mana instead of 3
2d900c No.14848336
>>14848309
We should just keep playing imperium universalis tbh, so far they have put more effort and dedication that what johan & co. will put into the rome game.
96af60 No.14848350
>>14848212
I firmly believe Paradox hires non-swedes like Wiz and DDRJake purely to help raise the average testosterone in their lead roles towards soyboy levels.
Unfortunately Johan both has enough seniority and is autistic enough to stay as a face of the studio since he doesn't understand how awful he is at it and no one can really point it out to him.
d7748f No.14848371
>>14848350
Wiz is not a swede ?
e88c71 No.14848405
This is why we need communism, why do Paradox need to take all my money from me so i can't afford food for my self?
e3a8dd No.14848411
>>14848350
>DDRJake
>help raise the average testosterone
Yeah, nope.
faa98a No.14848439
>>14848411
Notice what he said.
>towards soyboy levels
His joke is that normally they are even bellow that at Paradox.
d6ac75 No.14848462
>>14848405
>giving Paradox money
faa98a No.14848470
>>14848462
It is from the comment section of the video. He forgot to greentext it. It has the Pope as an avatar.
78e618 No.14848473
>>14848350
Johan was behind the earlier Paradox games like Crusader Kings 1 and Europa Universalis 1-2, plus Hearts of Iron 3 was his autistic brain child. He's probably one of the last original Paradox members. When Wiz took over, DLC begun to be more and more common, we got Stellaris and HoI IV. Wiz is a fucking piece of shit.
faa98a No.14848489
>>14848473
I wonder if some woman said something like
>Wouldn't it be nice if you collected some points of some sort?
>Uh, yeah, you collect money.
>No, no. I mean like… you know… good boy points!
And then no one was able to say she is wrong, because it would be illegal in Sweden, and so mana points were born.
d7748f No.14848496
>>14848473
The DLC shit was planned regardless my nigga, watch their podcasts on economics of games. It's their business plan since they cant churn out a yearly release like the big guys so they milk the niche they got because nobody is making these sorts of games anymore
faa98a No.14848516
>>14848496
>watch their podcasts
Why do you expect anyone else to put himself through it?
d7748f No.14848549
>>14848516
i watch all kinds of podcasts when i play their games cause its a lot of waiting and it gets boring
a57b7f No.14848568
Anyone got the Fourmmods patebin? Current one is dead.
I can get all HOI3 ones if needed
af8784 No.14848610
>>14846373
No all you really need is to control all of Central and I think also Western Africa. The South America and other places where rubber is created isn't too much to threatened you, but you can take those colonies if you want a tighter grip on the market.
c79d25 No.14848681
>>14848496
In that case they could at least make a full-fledged game (so no visual expansion packs and all religions/cultures/government types are included) and then maybe make large-scale DLCs that actually add something big enough that it deserves money. Something like adding the Indian subcontinent in CK2 for example.
I mean, I won't be giving them money regardless but I think other people who would normally not buy their shit because they're not interested in hundreds worth of DLCs would be more eager to buy their products if they were fun on their own.
78e618 No.14848689
>>14848489
I wouldn't be surprised in a slightest if Paradox gutted EUIV / HoI IV / Stellaris to appease the female gamer demographic, no matter how small and irrelevant it is to the bigger grand strategy games market. Devs do that kind of shit now. They are fully aware they grabbed their male customers by the balls.
3e3c94 No.14848807
>>14848473
>h-he a good boy
>he dindu nuffin
.t Johan
faa98a No.14848843
>>14848807
>10:1 respectful cucks vs vucks
23e35e No.14848865
>>14848183
>4 mana instead of 3
d7748f No.14848874
>>14848681
yeah i agree, especially since they add dlc's that radically change the game and make it unplayable without
faa98a No.14848890
>>14848689
This made me think. I know a one, a supposedly smart one, that plays Civilization V. Asked her what she likes. She started talking about how much choice there is in the game. Asked her about specific mechanics. She got a little uncomfortable, but after pushing her a little she started saying how different each character is, each religion and stuff like that. And on a surface level, sure, they are different, but she says that this makes the game so interesting. The freedom of their variety. But basically you get stuck into them. You are free to choose one, if you are not playing on random, but if you want to be optimal you get predetermined playstyle. That's not freedom. You lock yourself into. I myself back when I played Civilization V often played without getting that locked into the good sides of my characters. In fact I would try to do things that they are not good at.
This fucking woman thinking made modern video game perk system flash through my eyes. The illusion of making a choice and going down some path. Did women create perk systems? Is it possible? Could have women ruined video games in ways we haven't even realized?
Am I getting paranoid?
c7f90b No.14849523
>>14836936
>1946
Tanks
>1955
Tanks+bombers
>1990
Tanks+modern fighters
>2050
Tanks+modern fighters+future forces
2d900c No.14849539
>>14849523
No infantry or artillery ever?
I thought tanks acted as cavalry in regular vicky.
b260d4 No.14849968
>>14849539
>No infantry or artillery ever?
Tanks are better than infantry; bombers, modern fighters and future forces are better than artillery.
>I thought tanks acted as cavalry in regular vicky.
In regular vicky they act like a combination of guards and engineers.
2d900c No.14849976
>>14849968
No wonder my combined arms army or infantry, artillery, fighters and tanks got steamrolled by the soviets then.
b582c2 No.14849987
The hard way I learned that in CK2 holding more than two duchies is very bad for a king. What about kingdoms as an emperor? There doesn't seem to be limited, but giving then away increases the levies from your vassals by a lot. Anything else?
2d900c No.14850002
>>14849987
Simple, dont create any kingdoms until you can make viceroyalties, then hand them over to friendly vassals.
I would only recommend you hold yourself the kingdom of the area where your capital is (for example, king of greece if youre the byzantine emperor) to make sure youre core area isnt getting snipped by crafty vassals.
b260d4 No.14850063
>>14849976
Forgot to mention that you need more tanks than other units. Tanks are better in the front row and other units in the back row.
dc0720 No.14850069
>>14850063
What's a good meme for making money?
Oil?
2d900c No.14850089
>>14850069
Oil = infinite money
Not only do you have oil and fuel, but you can further upgrade your industry with synthethic fabrics, plastic (this gives you big bucks), optics and all kinds of shit.
b260d4 No.14850123
>>14850069
>>14850089
Plastics, inorganic chemicals, integrated circuits, optics, computers, pharmaceuticals, health and everything made with computers. Best raw materials are oil, other minerals, bauxite and copper.
84e128 No.14850159
>>14848183
Sweet Jesus that was uncomfortable to watch
Is Johan autistic?
2d900c No.14850181
>>14850123
Playing an oil jew on CWE is great, specially if your country starts off as a poor country in a poor region and then you can just be the big boy wit hthe big pokets doing whatever the fuck you want.
f1ea03 No.14850343
>>14848183
Johan's autism is difficult to listen to.
6c8923 No.14850471
>>14848183
Jesus he's a fucking mess
d7748f No.14850682
>>14850471
>>14850343
*Heavy Breathing Sounds*
*Stuttering*
*LONG PAUSES*
f78096 No.14850683
Postan again because the last thread died before I could get a response: I decided to go for a Carlist Spain run (HFM + Anon's Edits), only for the Carlist rebels to just up and vanish before the first month is out. So edit anon might want to look into that, unless it's some cache nonsense on my end.
2d900c No.14850701
>>14850683
>carlists fail in spain even when the god hand wants them to win
How typicial.
6c8923 No.14850749
>>14850683
HFM anon here, I don't think I ever modified the events pertaining Carlist Spain. Did a quick run and got and event to side with Carlos and the rebels disappeared within a few months (since their cause is no longer applicable.)
Are you missing that event?
f78096 No.14850847
>>14850749
When is it supposed to fire, and where would I find the event ID?
6e05a1 No.14851481
>>14849968
>bombers, modern fighters and future forces are better than artillery.
Really? I have best results with tank frontline and artillery backline.
I guess drones are better later on but they take two years to make.
8a8499 No.14851510
>>14850847
It should fire on the first day. It's the decision whether to stay normal Spain or go Carlist. If you go Carlist the rebels disappear.
id = 37711 in SPAFlavor in HFM
f78096 No.14851533
>>14851510
Alright, the event is there, but it didn't fire when I started a Spain Campaign. I'll try a fresh install/nuking the cache, and see where that gets me.
5cf739 No.14851545
>>14836786
This UI is horrendous.
332371 No.14851727
>>14849968
>In regular vicky they act like a combination of guards and engineers.
They are basically the best units because of this but you need thirty fucking tank factories to make more than ten of them and they require cars as an input so you also need a hundred car factories to feed your forty tank factories. Considering that you only ever get tanks around twenty years before the game ends anyway it's usually better to just stick with guards or if you are playing a low pop country the hordes of African slave soldiers that you use to keep Sweden safe.
332371 No.14851787
>>14846234
First make sure you're not killing your people with tariffs. Next look at your pops' needs see what you import tons of then build factories that produce that thing. Once you get a large army start building ammunition and weapon factories as you will need tons of that shit when your army is big. Also if you want a big navy build ship factories as the AI tends to never fucking build any leaving that market open to be taken over as soon as you research steamers. If you want easy mode or are a poor as shit country just build liquor and wine factories with glass factories to support them and clothing factories as you need all of that shit all the time and they always make money as a result and if you have lots of lumber make furniture factories as that will be the next thing down the list of things your people actually need. This part is important, IF YOU DON'T HAVE AN ARMY DON'T BUILD FUCKING WEAPONS FACTORIES. They will go under so fucking fast your head will spin. Also subsidize your factories if you can this will keep them open if the market goes to shit for a month and will stop your explosives factory from closing causing your artillery factory from closing causing you to lose wars because suddenly you can no longer support your ships and artillery pieces in your army.
c79d25 No.14852350
>>14849987
>What about kingdoms as an emperor? There doesn't seem to be limited
They aren't but vassals that hold duchies inside the kingdom will get a "desires the kingdom of …" opinion modifier.
ea6792 No.14852646
>>14841908
This. Bulgars are more Greek/Thracian than Slavic.
23e35e No.14852664
>>14852646
they're a mix of steppeniggers, greeks, and some slavs.
ea6792 No.14852672
>>14845980
You can play as a Fascist through Natsynds, Maximists and Sorelians. Georges Sorel is credited as the ideological father of Fascist thought, after all. It was him that fused Syndicalist ideals with Maurassian nationalism, from which Mussolini, who's been quoted saying that he owes everything to Sorel, was inspired to create the model of Corporatism.
Falangism is otherwise known as national Syndicalism, precisely because of its Sorelian essence. The only form of Fascism that can be described as distinct from Sorelianism would be Hitlerian (not Strasserite) Natsoc.
ea6792 No.14852678
>>14845980
>>14852672
There's also the fact that Sorel literally equated Capitalism with international Jewry, and wrote extensively against them.
c79d25 No.14852734
>>14852664
You forgot gypsies.
23e35e No.14852790
>>14852734
Do bulgarians actually breed with those? As far as I know, most places gypsies inhabitate definitely do not mix with them.
96af60 No.14853426
>>14851727
The best units will always be artillery or planes.
Tanks are very mildly better than infantry but it's not really worth the effort at all.
faa98a No.14853462
>>14852790
Very rarely with some of the more integrated ones, but as a whole no. Even the more integrated ones mostly just end up with other gypsies. Gypsies were a late introduction and back then definitely no one at all mixed with them so it is not like they have impacted the gene pool in any way.
ecf282 No.14853654
Should Victoria 2 start at 1815 right after the Congress of Vienna? Maybe at 1821?
3e3c94 No.14853663
This is Winkel tripel projection centered on Constantinople. How does this look like as a base for CK2 map? This is only mockup. If I decided to use it I would cut off the northern portion of the map.
fc26a1 No.14853738
Why are halfchanners always so spurgy about our pastebin? Why do they even come here?
faa98a No.14855028
>decide to continue my Bulgaria game a little (CK2)
>still can't pass medium crown authority
>look at one of the factions against me
>the leader is tribal so I can just revoke their chief title
>I do it
>they refuse to accept it
>civil war
>the total number of votes decreased by half
>while in civil war
>start sending gifts to the opposite
>still not enough
>one guy has 4 votes
>is a tribal chief
>revoke him
>he fucking accepts peacefully
>now I have enough votes on my side and it passes
>beat the faction leader and end the civil war
Top politics.
c79d25 No.14855214
>>14853738
For the same reason that kikes come to white countries.
a57b7f No.14855408
>>14851787
By any chance can you get the PDM mod? I want to see how it functions I heard it was easy *
faa98a No.14855434
>Byz is suddenly Khazaria 2.0
>Umayyad has blobbed into France
At least the pope called a holly war.
f1ea03 No.14855448
>>14855434
Nothing about that map is okay.
3e3c94 No.14855452
Finally created both topology.bmp and provinces.bmp which will serve as a base for drawing provinces. The topology one is most likely shit though. I didn't bother creating custom cpt file and just used elevation.cpt which generates only landmass topo. Now I just need to get vegetation map. I hope I can create one with GMT because if not I'd have to draw it myself.
6c8923 No.14855471
>>14855452
Anon how do you plan on adding those 6 gorillion provinces?
3e3c94 No.14855485
>>14855471
I'll draw them manually. My intention is to convert CK2+ map and redraw all provinces. Also there won't be any India or major rivers.
23e35e No.14855489
>>14855485
>I'll draw them manually
You have my respect, anon. See you in a year.
f1ea03 No.14855515
>>14855485
>I'll draw them manually.
613227 No.14855516
video about parajew's "new" rome game came out and guess what?
>first few minutes all about the new mana
wew
3e3c94 No.14855617
Got basic rivers.bmp. It's still very crude however. Now only trees.bmp and terrain.bmp remain to generate.
23e35e No.14855660
>>14855516
Can't you see that Paradox spearheads innovation? More = better, so each new Paradox game will have more Mana than the last one. Can't wait for Victoria 3, where there will be no pops, only mana counters that you can use to magically create new factories (how well they do will also depend on mana – you send mana in, you get money out. Simple.)
a3c1ee No.14855676
Can anyone tell me if Galactic Civilizations 3 is any good?
613227 No.14855809
>new hearts of reddit IV mod comes out
>its ww2 from the view of kaiserriech.
>canada election
>its a bunch of reddit memes, except maybe "traps are gay"
>tranny disagreement cabal reeeeeeeeees at this plus "chiang social democrat"
The Paradoxians!
6c8923 No.14855904
>>14855485
>I'll draw them manually.
99a882 No.14856466
>>14851481
Just tested. Artillery is better than planes.
f1ea03 No.14856604
>>14856565
>54M treasury
But why
99a882 No.14856685
>>14856604
>>14856565
>But why
Last screenshot, that's why.
2d900c No.14856692
>>14856656
>blobbing into peru
Eww.
The only acceptable expansion for brazil is the guyanas and uruguay.
870ee4 No.14857937
>>14856565
Do it, macaco, destroy the abominacions.
f1f9c4 No.14858614
Jesus fuck that UI is a mess.
0fa674 No.14858627
>>14858614
Referring to what?
f1f9c4 No.14859523
>>14858627
In general? Look at it. It's cluttered as fuck. Everything is a button or a number or both.
b95707 No.14859540
>>14858580
It's from the Italy mod integrated into MEIOU. When you get big enough the unlawful territory modifier is set on all newly conquered territory in Italy.
0fa674 No.14859549
>>14859523
3,5/4 of that can be taken away. I was trying to make a point.
Napels having the unlawful HRE territory while being outside of the HRE.
>>14859540
Well it's logical but a bit confusing with the flavour text.
23e35e No.14859550
>>14859523
he asks whether you mean MEIOU or the new parajew game
a57b7f No.14860224
>>14846405
what >>14846688 said. Also causePDX can't be damned to do smaller proviences for Siberia/Tibet/Xinjiang
e09f21 No.14860264
What are some good alt-history mods for Victoria II? Is Divergences of Darkness any good?
2c59d9 No.14860343
Are the HoI4 dlc even worth the download?
a57b7f No.14860347
>>14860264
Maybe PDM if they haven't fucked it up yet.
>>14860343
Just play HOI3 if you want to satify your armchair general. HOI4 pales in comparision cause they dumbed it down for normfags
0fa674 No.14860373
>>14860343
Just play HoI2:DH for 10$. The thing is cheap, balanced, plays well, has god tier soundtrack and above else adds as little shekels into the parajew's pocket as possible while tipping the hat to the original guys that made it.
1022b8 No.14860405
>>14856565
>Brazil nukes the US into irrelevance
>European Union does not include Germany
>Republic of China is a great power
>So is Democratic Republic of Congo
Best timeline. Why did the US become what's quite clearly meant to be a Pan-North American union despite controlling neither Canada nor Mexico?
613227 No.14860411
>>14856565
how did such devastation come to be?
23e35e No.14860513
lifted this shit over at their forums. We Civilization now.
0fa674 No.14860581
>>14860513
>Hellenic
>faith
>roman citizens of helenic faith
How can one have such a warped interpretation of culture and ancient polytheism.
>We Civilization now.
Case closed. When you have no ideas on your own due to lol women quotas, just rip it off from games that these gamer strategy gurls play.
And Civ is good for the niche they serve to. Gsg won't go well with these heavily abbreviated civ concepts.
23e35e No.14860652
>>14860581
have some more rage fuel
0fa674 No.14860695
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14860652
>let's give money for Stable Empires DLC
Rest of asia is basically fantasy maps at those points of time due to no records.
And it's even boring during the EU timeline. Except Japan.
84e128 No.14860722
>>14855676
its worth a pirate
f78096 No.14860973
Carlist anon here again, I figured it out, and boy am I feeling stupid. Turns out using a map mod borked the Carlist War entirely, and toggling it off was all I needed to fix it.
a5eee2 No.14861535
>archive is down
well shit anyone have a link to get cuckking2 again?
faa98a No.14862641
85ccbe No.14862720
>>14860264
Heirs to Aquitania is pretty good.
c978e0 No.14862821
>>14851787
Good stuff. I only use tariffs in the beginning of the game and set little tax when I'm playing a poor country.
Is there a cheat sheet to chain factories?
d007df No.14862852
Is there a mod to cure the boring endgame of eu4?
Also is there mod for more ancient Rome setting?
Thanks
a5eee2 No.14863586
870ee4 No.14863698
Is there any Hyperwar mod?
87f125 No.14863789
>>14860581
I must admit I don't fully get "it". Care to explain?
a5eee2 No.14864187
>>14863789
because historically romans copy and paste thier god with any culture they would find so to make it similar and avoid stupid wars when inglobating new cultures in their empire thats why romans gods are so similar with greek, egyptsome gods at least norsemainly minor gods and demigods…with some sporadic muse
2d900c No.14864767
>>14862852
>Also is there mod for more ancient Rome setting?
Imperium universalis.
>>14864187
Romans were just clever fucks.
e09f21 No.14864775
>>14862720
Looks interesting. Any idea if this is still being updated. From the github, it looks like the last commit was over 2 years ago.
0fa674 No.14865295
>>14863789
Basically this >>14864187.
They had entire religious bodies that identified foreign Gods with their own and approved them. f.e. Jupiter=Zeus therefore we cool.
If it was a completely foreign one, they just added it to the roster. F.e. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Baths_%28Bath%29#Museum
This is where the sainthood in the Catholic Church originates from.
And this was also one of the biggest if not the most important reason that pushed Jews towards constant revolt and Romans clamping down on them with the b& hammer.
The monotheistic God was completely against the established Temple rules and therefore against one of the pillars of the Roman Empire that maintained the Pax Romana.
Little did they know.
fd2d95 No.14865746
1st dev diary out for Imperator
dc0720 No.14865926
>>14865746
The map looks like hot garbage and the UI looks like a bad clone of Aurora 4x.
f1ea03 No.14866002
>>14865746
Good God it looks even worse than when it wasn't populated
613227 No.14866306
Archive is gone, and where can I get the modern day mod for Victoria 2?
613227 No.14866460
>>14864187
>>14865295
apparently this was a response to similar criticsism that got a thumbs up from Jonan.
"That could be "Hellenic Roman" as opposed to "Christian Roman", "Buddhist Roman", "Zoroastrian Roman" or whatever else. And of course as opposed to "Hellenic Greek" (or whatever divisions of Greek they decide to use), "Hellenic Egyptian", or "Hellenic Briton".
It'd allow for situations where a group is being absorbed into the State without having a weird situation where one day everyone is wandering around in tunic and trousers, carrying spears and figure eight shields, living in wood, stone, and daub longhouses, worshipping Lugh only to wake up the next day in togas, armed with a gladius, sputum, and plum, living in villas and oppidia, and worshipping Mars. Basically it'd let the shift be more gentle, so that the culture shift and the religious shift don't have to be identical, but can be staggered (either way). I'd think this would work well with some of the Roman approaches of just outright absorbing religious cults, or tolerating non-Hellenic gods and worship, provided that the absorbed cult would agree that "our Thor is your Jupiter" or whatever the surface relationship was. Then they could get around to instilling the "proper" rites on a separate level to getting the locals to dress, act, and think like a Roman.
After all, a man's gods are largely his business provided he'll sacrifice to the relevant Roman gods as well."
003ea3 No.14866801
Isn't there a much simpler explanation for why religions aren't quite right for how they would have been in the early Roman Republic? Johan is copypasting the Hellenic faith in CK2 and EU4 for historic characters and events.
In those games, it makes some sense for Hellenism to be a catchall well after the Romans integrate the Greek pantheon after conquering the Greeks, as depicted here >>14866460. Not so much before Rome has even touched the Adriatic Sea, as seen originally here >>14836786. It would be much better to have treated this like CK2 melting pot cultures, where Rome has its own simple religion that changes as you conquer the cities of Magna Graecia and Greece proper until you have something that could be called Hellenic religion.
f0b487 No.14866807
2b5791 No.14867038
>>14865746
Holy fuck that map looks so fucking disgusting. Why did they stop with the Vic2 Solid Colour map and go for this shit design. Huge empires will look fucking grey because it only colours the outside edge and tiny empires are a nightmare to look at. Just look at Northern Spain, fuck that looks bad. Also, will there be colonization in this? If you look at Sardinia, you see that the Unclaimed land is two provinces. Why the fuck is there unclaimed land in Sardinia anyway?
e09f21 No.14867039
4ff84f No.14870283
>>14865746
>making gorillion tiny tribes so that the colonization mechanic is no longer needed
So, can we expect tribal blobs to form and contest the might of Rome? Can't wait for "Turdetania" to annex all of Hispania and fuck Rome's shit up, just like in history. Believable worlds!
faa98a No.14870313
By the way, there are some small updates to CK2 that RazMar hasn't put to the first post. Don't remember what his reasoning was. Here are some links:
- 2.8.1.1 version provided by iamart http://www105.zippyshare.com/v/RsWq10fQ/file.html
- 2.8.2 version provided by Geoduck https://www65.zippyshare.com/v/ooAISY9i/file.html
- 2.8.2.1 version provided by Geoduck https://www111.zippyshare.com/v/VF5HhM3L/file.html
c79d25 No.14870341
>>14870283
I can already imagine Israel or Judah becoming the Ottomans/Abbasids of this game and conquering half of the world.
4ff84f No.14870346
>>14870341
I bet they'll portray Carthago as full of niggers.
613227 No.14870898
My copy of Victoria 2 won't update, please post a link to a pirated copy with the latest update.
e4cfe8 No.14870943
>>14867038
The uninhabited parts of Sardinia are the Gennargentu mountain ranges.
4ff84f No.14870976
>>14867038
it means paradox didn't finish that area yet. Most of hispania was like that too a wekk ago.
e4cfe8 No.14870999
>>14870283
If Paradox is smart (read: smart), they will introduce some kind of conglomeration mechanic for different regions containing many different like the HRE in EU, so as to be able to give an advantage to these small tribes against to the obvious bonuses Rome will get. Such a system could be easily used for Celtiberian tribes, where the level of organisation in these tribes were comparable to city states and would rely on cooperation but keep their independence in tact. There could involve tribe assimilation mechanics for west Germanic tribes closer to the Rhine to rationalise le blobbing, either reformation into more settled and agrarian societies for east Germans or adaptation of Steppe ways, Phi-Hellenic reforms for Thracian tribes. For more independent factions, intra-politics management.
Of course none of this will happen. They've added 10 quadrillion different peoples, tribes, city states, kingdoms and such for flavour and eye candy. None of these beyond those most well known at the time will be accounted for gameplay wise and the game will be as dogshit as Stellaris.
0fa674 No.14871043
>>14865746
Wew now they blatantly copy mods. This IS Imperium Universalis.
2d900c No.14871044
>>14870943
Why are sardinia and corsica such cute islands?
They are aesthetically perfect.
2d900c No.14871049
>>14871043
No anon, this is a SHITTIER version of imperium universalis.
4ff84f No.14871073
>>14870999
Actually, they have such a system in place. Now brace yourself, because the ingenuity of it will make you speechless. Are you ready? It's the coalition mechanic from EU4. No, really.
e4cfe8 No.14871235
>>14871073
I'm not surprised, and not even slightly disappointed either.
79d8ce No.14871312
Today's the day, boys. RIP
faa98a No.14872625
>>14871312
Would you have preferred if it was similar to this?
4ff84f No.14872732
>>14872625
Rename Bulgarian to Serbian and we might have a deal, anon.
4ff84f No.14872754
I've been doing some research on Lebanon, and found out that genetically, Lebanon is mostly Phoenician, even if most inahbitants think themselves Arab. Makes me wish for a mod where you'd make Lebanon go full Phoenician, alphabet and all, and try to restore Carthagian borders.
0fa674 No.14872940
>>14872625
How can you even watch that shit for longer than 5s?
It's modern art.
53fa25 No.14874262
>>14860405
>Why did the US become what's quite clearly meant to be a Pan-North American union despite controlling neither Canada nor Mexico?
Rebels.
>>14860411
I nuked USA and got nuked back.
>>14865746
>Turdulia
>Turdetania
79d8ce No.14874266
>>14872625
Eh, Bulgarians are OK, can't complain.
57794b No.14876508
>>14851787
I played as Israel with no army (United ZOGdom protected me), and half of my industry was peddling ammo to the goyim. Insane profits, and to get even more cash, i used UK to declare war on other nations using humiliate cb to drive up demand.
4ff84f No.14876941
Paracock fans never disappoint
0fa674 No.14877032
>>14876508
kek any screenshots?
I did the same with GB. Start a neverending war, peace out quickly and sell to both sides while giving money to the side that is losing.
0fa674 No.14877039
A question that popped into my mind about vicky 2.
Is there a decision to remove slaves to Liberia instead of fighting the Civil war with USA?
Or removing them after the war?
ea6792 No.14877388
>>14872754
Lebanese Maronites are the only non-Arabs in Lebanon, and they've been a minority since the civil war.
No Maronites consider themselves Arab.
4ff84f No.14877399
>>14877388
Actually, Phoenician genes are present in equal amounts in all of Lebanon's population, regardless of religion. It's true, however, that it's mainly the maronites who keep the phoenicianism alive
ea6792 No.14877400
>>14872754
There is no conceivable way for anyone save for the Maronites (currently 40% of the population) and perhaps the Druze to retain Phoenician roots, given that the Sunnis are almost exclusively Palestinians who arrived after the establishment of Israel as refugees and then proceeded to declare Jihad on the Christian majority, thus turning the most prosperous nation of the middle east into a shithole.
4ff84f No.14877459
>>14877400
>given that the Sunnis are almost exclusively Palestinians who arrived after the establishment of Israel as refugees
That's not true. The are roughly 3 million muslims in Lebanon. Of that amount, only about 400k are Palestinian
c4f3bc No.14880458
Pastebin is down, anyone got the latest HPM?
ae7684 No.14882059