/v/ - Video Games

>>14818895

>So apparently it's actually free to play now or something and I'm wondering: is it worth playing?

Yes, most of /v/ hates the multiplayer part of the game because they either haven't played it and just parrot what other faggots have said or because they tried it and got stuck at bronze. Same as with every game where ranks show how crap the average anon really is. It'll still be hard for a bad player to transition into ranked multiplayer from the free version though.

>Does it come with the single player content as well or do I have to buy it?

It comes with the main campaign and you have to buy the rest. Honestly it's not that good and the lore rape in singleplayer is an actually legitimate reason to dislike the game so it doesn't matter either way.

>>14818895

WoL campaign was alright IIRC

No idea if it does, but i recommend the singleplayer game.

The storywriting is overall shit, a step down from the original in pretty much every way but despite that Wings of Liberty's campaign is incredibly fun. I've replayed it 6 times in the last 6 years, which is rare for me to do for singleplayer games.

The original Starcraft was a space opera, this one's storywriting is more like Independence Day, fun, cheesy but objectively shit by a lot of metrics. I honestly didn't expect much out of Blizzard.

Anyways, do not play anything after WoL for anything besides the multiplayer (and specifically arcade and custom games, if you can even find people to play those with).

>>14818915

From a gameplay perspective I don't think there's anything wrong with it.

>>14818895

>is it worth playing?

The story is complete garbage, but the basic gameplay is relatively nice and varied, even if you will spent most missions killing everything with your Marine+Medic blob.

>Does it come with the single player content as well or do I have to buy it?

Wings of Liberty (Terran Campaign) is free. If you owned Wings of Liberty beforehand, Heart of the Swarm (Zerg Campaign) will be free in turn. Legacy of the Void (Protoss Campaign) has to be bought at any rate, although it does not really appear to be worth the money.

It's fine but it is better in nearly every way with the expansions. More singleplayer shit. I enjoy the multiplayer but it is really only about the singleplayer according to /v/.

>>14818939

Don't listen to this retard, the expansions are hot garbage in terms of singleplayer, I'd only recommend getting them if you're absolutely desperate for closure and disappointment. They were also incredibly boring and unfun. WoL was the only one with good singleplayer.

Multiplayer is okay in terms of custom games/maps, there's even some good singleplayer ones that exist I will never call them 'arcade games'', but the actual campaigns for the 2 expansions are hot garbage.

>>14818946

>Don't listen to this retard, the expansions are hot garbage in terms of singleplayer, I'd only recommend getting them if you're absolutely desperate for closure and disappointmen

Do I still need them for multiplayer?

>>14818956

I am fairly certain that multiplayer gives you access to all expansion units and stuff. Otherwise Blizzard would have to maintain three different versions of the game, and god knows that playerbase has shrunk enough that they barely have enough for one.

>>14818956

I've been able to play custom maps with friends who used the free edition to play with me, but I don't know how exactly things work, if they make it so you can only play WoL maps which would have an erratic userbase, or not.

You should be able to, I recommend going into the multiplayer games with a friend if you have any though its more fun and is better

There's also a co-op mode that's alright for a bit in LotV (last expansion), so if you have a friend who has it you can play co-op with them

WoL campaign is fun, if a bit shit on the story side, Heart is average, and Legacy I haven't even looked at, but I've heard it supreme shit. Also, the multiplayer is the pinnacle of gookclick RTS, so if you're a mongoloid with 950APM and flawless micro, you might stand a chance of beating someone.

MA GOOSE IS GETTIN COOKED

>>14818989

>micro

nigger macro was a much bigger focus in SC2 than anything, or did you ignore how many people were whining about the "1-A" deathballs? How all terrans had to do was stim, maybe kite at most and siege and unsiege their tanks and that was the extent of their micro? How Protoss was basically just spam forcefields to split your opponent's army in half and hope your colossi or units can rape from there

SC1 was much more difficult to micro because of all the constraints present, and either way macro was more important in every way in both games over micro. It didn't matter how well you could micro your stalkers for example if you only have 5 of them to your opponent's 12. Micro only matters significantly if you're employing an unusual strategy involving shit like a high amount of spellcaster units or your macro skills are roughly on the same level with your opponent

>>14819008

Huh, I genuinely hadn't played the game or paid attention to it in a really long time. Not above admitting that I'm wrong though.

>>14819008

Blizzard doesn't know how to into balance, that was established a while ago.

>there`s a reason this game stopped being a hit in gookland in favor of overjew

Eh?

I thought they bought into the assfaggots meme, I remember nothing about overcuck being big there in terms of esports, but I remember gook mentioning some fucking d.va cults or some bullshit so who fucking knows. I just remember LoL growing really rapidly around 2012 and onwards over there, along with HotS making the game experience a sharp drop after its brief spike because of how badly they fucked everything up.

All RTS that aren't Age of Mythology/Empires II have terrible multiplayer; Starcraft and Warcraft especially so, as the only playstyle they reward is early aggression.

>>14818909

>Yes, most of /v/ hates the multiplayer part of the game because they either haven't played it and just parrot what other faggots have said or because they tried it and got stuck at bronze. Same as with every game where ranks show how crap the average anon really is. It'll still be hard for a bad player to transition into ranked multiplayer from the free version though.

Funny how this quote can be used to shill any multiplayer game with ranked ever made. It's almost copypasta material.

>>14818895

>Starcraft 2

우선 스타 크래프트가 나온 이후로 스타 크래프트를 해왔습니다. 나는 그것의 석방 (8 월 / 9 월)과 14 곧 (10 월) 동안 13 살이었습니다. 저는 열렬한 RTS 게이머였습니다. 첫 번째 게임은 원래의 등이었습니다. 저는 밴쿠버의 로컬에서 다이아몬드 리그 세에 게임을했습니다. 세 때 마스터 리그에 올랐다. 나는 18 살이며, 어떤 의미에서 스타 크래프트를 "그만 뒀다".

나는 많은 사람들이 "SC2를 그만 두는 사람들은 어쨌든 좋아하지 않는다"고 말합니다. 그들은 여러 가지면에서 너무 잘못되었습니다 - 저는 스타 크래프트 응용 프로그램을 보면서 버스 타기를 보냈습니다. 매 단위마다 얼마나 많은 데미지를 입을 지, 각 유닛의 건강이 얼마나되는지, 머리에 전투 시뮬레이션을했는지 기억하십시오. 나는 수업을 듣고 논스톱을 생각할 때마다 철탑을 그었다. 나는 스타 크래프트의 꿈을 꿈꾸며 매일 만을 배웠다. LoL이 올라 갔을 때도 를하고 적극적으로 홍보했습니다. 나는 수업 도중 (CADD에서) 놀았고 점심 시간에 연주했다. 나는 SC2가 할 수있는 것을 보여주기 위해 학교에서 나의 멍청한 친구들을 상대로 전시회를 열어 다른 사람들이 게임에 능숙해질 수 있도록 관심을 가졌습니다. 나는 SC2를 종교적으로보고 에 대해 흥분을 느꼈고, 수업 도중을보고 싶어했고, 성격에서 플레이 스타일에 이르기까지 의 모든 플레이어를 설명 할 수있었습니다. 나는 그 당시 스타 크래프트 II를 사랑했고, 지금도 그렇게하고있다.

그러나 나는 그만 뒀다. 그 이유는 간단합니다. 블리자드는 게임에 대해, 커뮤니티에 대해, 플레이어에 대해 걱정하는 것을 중단했습니다. 저는 의 시작이 훌륭하다고 생각합니다. 우리는 박서라는 이름의 을 훌륭한 해양 통제로 유산으로 남겨 두었습니다. 우리 는의 해외 희망을 가졌습니다. 스타 크래프트의 황금기였습니다. 아마도 가장 좋은 시간은 의 결승전과 고원의 핵무기 였을 것입니다. 나는 과장된 것을 기억하고 은 r의 연설을 기억합니다.

>>14819079

스나이퍼가 (재교육 : IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA)에 대한 대량 살상 무기와 대량 곰팡이를 일으킨 후에 스나이퍼가 에서 우승했을 때, 어떻게 든 불가능한 경기에서 돌아 오는 것을 기억하십니까? 여러 토너먼트에서 상위 4 위가 모두 저그 였을 때를 기억하십니까? 블리자드가 그걸로 패치했을 때를 기억하십시오 … 3 개월 후, 가장 큰 중 하나가 나오기 2 일 전에 고스트가 도저히 피해를 입혔습니까? 밸런스 패치의 불일치로 인해 스타 크래프트의 역사상 가장 긴 시간 중 하나 인 레이스가 지배적 인 시간이되었습니다. 당시 저그였습니다. 그러나 과거에 살 필요가 없습니다. 과거는 분명히 커뮤니티의 부끄러운 후에 블리자드는 선수들의 말을 듣는 것이 좋습니다.

>>14819079

The sad thing is it's true.

>>14819093

>>14819097

What types of dogs make the best soup?

>>14819106

Is pug like pork to the gooks?

>>14819111

From experience, dog is very tough meat, but tendering it makes it bareable.

>>14819079

>It's almost copypasta material.

It is copy pasta. Shill copypasta, but copypasta still.

>>14818909

>Yes, most of /v/ hates the multiplayer part of the game because they either haven't played it and just parrot what other faggots have said or because they tried it and got stuck at bronze.

I hate the multiplayer part because Blizzard listens to bronze scrubs for its balance.

>played SC2 during early days

>random every match

>get to masters on US West

>roughly even win rates with all races

>the "lets nerf the shit out of terran because too many people play it" patch hits

>win rate with terran plummets, win rate with zerg and protos against terran goes up

>same patch also fucks up GSL and other tournaments

>realise Blizz has no fucking idea what they are doing

>stop playing game

>>14818895

>>>/cuckchan/

>>14819047

RTS and multiplayer is about as good a mix as painkillers and beer.

>>14819047

>the only playstyle they reward is early aggression

now that's just not true at all. Don't shitpost like that.

>>14819047

>warcraft 3

>not the best multiplayer in any RTS

>>14819093

>>14819097

Jewgle Translate:

First of all, I have been doing StarCraft since StarCraft came out. I was 13 years old during its release (August / September) and 14 soon (October). I was an avid RTS gamer. The first game was the original back. I played games in Diamond League three in Vancouver. I was in the master league when I was three. I am 18 years old and in a sense "quit" StarCraft.

I say that many people "do not like people who quit SC2 anyway". They were so wrong in many ways - I spent a bus ride watching the StarCraft application. Remember how much damage each unit will take, how healthy each unit is, and how you simulate combat on your head. I took a class and penned a steel tower every time I thought of nonstop. I learned every day of my dreams of StarCraft. We also actively promoted LoL when it went up. I played during class (at CADD) and played at lunch time. I had an exhibition at my school against my stupid friends to show what SC2 could do, so I was interested in helping others become proficient in games. I was excited about seeing SC2 religiously, wanted to see it during class, and was able to explain all the players from personality to play style. I loved StarCraft II at that time, and I still do it.

But I quit. The reason is simple. Blizzard has stopped worrying about the game, the community, and the player. I think the beginning of it is wonderful. We have left the name Boxer as a legacy with excellent maritime control. We have the hope of overseas. It was the golden age of StarCraft. Perhaps the best time would have been the nuclear weapons of the final and the highlands. I remember the exaggeration and remember the speech of the r.

Do you remember coming back from an impossible game somehow when the Sniper won (Re-Training: IMBA IMBA IMBA IMBA) and the Sniper after winning massive fungus? Do you remember when all the top four places in various tournaments were Zerg? Remember when Blizzard patched it … Three months later, did Ghost get hurt two days before one of the biggest ones? The mismatch of the balance patches is one of the longest times in the history of StarCraft, the race is dominant. It was a zerg at the time. But you do not have to live in the past. Obviously, after the community's shame, Blizzard is better off listening to the players.

>>14818895

Shill thread.

>>14819157

>RTS and multiplayer is about as good a mix as painkillers and beer.

Wrong.

RTS and multiplayer is a necessity. Single player RTS is like trying to play a game of american football by yourself. It's pathetic.

>>14819005

>nigger macro was a much bigger focus in SC2

This guy gets it. You can micro all you want but it's not going to matter when the other guy steam rolls you with 3/3 terran bio.

>>14818895

The campaign was feigning in intrigue at most. With each campaign you go through you can really feel how boiled down the writing is. It's a god damn travesty.

Co-op is pretty fun if you have a friend to do it with and hero abilities are a neat gimmick as well.

>>14819125

Fair enough, that's an actual legitimate complaint.

It is feminist, so it is shit.

>>14819247

>RTS and multiplayer is a necessity

RTS and multiplayer gave us gookclick. That alone makes it a terrible idea.

>>14819364

What?

>>14818909

You fucker, I played the game and thought that it was the best thing ever. But that was because I didn't know jackshit about a real RTS, until I played Total Annihilation and Supreme Commander. Starcraft is a shit micro-intense game.

The zerg campaign was pretty fun because of its incredibly broken units

Not worth the full price tho. Also the lore rape in that one hurts

>>14818909

Here's my complaints about the multiplayer you generalizing faggot.

>Three games, with different teams, with meta balance that is the size of an Ocean and kept on changing for the last 6 years

>Fucking always online retardation at launch, me and a couple of buddies got fucked over by the lag, even playing at the same location

>Marketed as casual-friendly to sell to everyone, resulting outpour of fucking scrubs that blizztard listened for feedback for the balance and meta

>Forced E-sports faggotry shilling at the goddamn start, Gooks who have no life have an outrageous advantage to adapt at every patch balance that changed the game for the next two years, Starcraft League is now Gookcraft.

>>14818989

Heart goes full retard and there was no way to salvage it with Legacy so it just turns into a Marvel story. And the micro stuff is overblown it only gets you an edge when your strat is countered. Wrecking ball strats are all you'll see until diamond league anyhow.

>>14818909

>t.not a blizzcuck shill

>>14818989

>Heart is average

Was really cool when I went summer swarm 2.0 :^)

>>14827149

The first image is either disingenuous or made by a retard. He was clearly referring to the day she was left on Tarsonis.

>>14827332

Obviously, you bilbo. What else could it be referring to? And how does it invalidate it in any way?

>pic 1: I'll get you you blithering murderer cunt

>pic 2: sometimes I think maybe you would've probably been better if you were slightly dead

>>14827149

You know, it's really interesting how (((they've))) been shitting on classic characters like Raynor and Luke Skywalker. Both turn into gray-haired nihilistic old men that have just given up on everything. Nu-Raynor and Nu-Luke are nothing like their characters in the original material suggest they would be.

SC2 was shit the moment they announced the campaigns would not be in the last order that had not used.

SC1: terran zerg toss

BR: Toss Terran Zerg

What should have been:

SC2: Zerg Toss Terran

Kerrigan starts her shit, toss get their shit together and setup for Raynor leading the Terrans and finishing shit once and for all. But no, we got utter fucking shit instead.

>>14827149

>ever using authenticators

You must hate yourself

Hots has fun missions, the kerragan power creep is extreme by the end of the campaign when you can summon an entire fucking army from her asshole. WoL is fun because Terran micro consists of making sure you press the A button before you right click and you're playing though a schlocky action B movie. The protoss campaign is fucking terrible because the plot takes precedence over the gameplay, characters are less interesting than even the protoss in sc1 and the level of micro is frustrating to anyone who isn't accustom to high apm gameplay

>>14827374

One is a rage-filled statement made to her face in the wake of murder of his friends

the other is a comment to himself about someone he was attracted to and forming a relationship with, wishing she was dead instead of becoming the monster she had been

>slightly dead

you're retarded

>probably better

its clearly meant to express doubt since, at the beginning of WoL its been already 2 years since those events and he's been doing nothing but drinking and being depressed while Mengsk and Kerrigan are off conquering everything and being major forces in the sector, it fits with his state of mind, or was he supposed to feel nothing but rage for 2 years as if he never had any attachment or connection to the person behind the murderous villain he was now dealing with

It is literally a single comment that is optional to view as well, only triggered by selecting the old picture of Sarah, not even a major cutscene or story element.

SC2 had shit writing, but using that as an example of it is just flat-out retarded. Its like using a random line you see in the first chapter of a sequel to a book as a reason to call the whole book shit.

>>14827551

>WoL is fun because Terran micro consists of making sure you press the A button before you right click

>press A then right click

Anon, why are you canceling the attack move command?

>>14827806

Because I haven't played the game in so long I forgot the control scheme

>>14827781

> wishing she was dead instead of becoming the monster she had been

Not really, he's questioning whether it would have been a better thing for her to have died that day which is not the same thing.

Anybody with half a brain or that said what he said even if it was a rage filled reaction would not be questioning that.and would probably say something closer to

>"Sarah.. if only you had just died that day"

>>14828594

>Not really, he's questioning whether it would have been a better thing for her to have died that day which is not the same thing.

if you have the autism to argue about how definitive a statement a throwaway line in the story is, you have the capacity to realize that its pretty mu ch

>Anybody with half a brain or that said what he said even if it was a rage filled reaction would not be questioning that.

what the fuck is this sentence?

>even if it was a rage filled reaction would not be questioning that.and would probably say something closer to

>"Sarah.. if only you had just died that day"

That's if the fucking sentence was rewritten, its clearly meant to show Raynor as depressed and doubting in that moment instead of angry like he was 2 years ago in the heat of the moment, and considering he was looking at a picture of her before she turned into the villain she was now, someone he was attracted to, its not an unreasonable reaction to have

>>14828722

>That's if the fucking sentence was rewritten

No fucking shit, the point is merely to illustrate that from SC1 to SC2 Raynor turns into a retard thinking with his dick.

>its not an unreasonable reaction to have

>"hmm maybe it's for the better that person that got turned into a monster, killed billions and betrayed me several time hasn't just died before she could do all that"

How retarded do you have to be for that to make any sense at any point.

>>14828779

You're asking for more one-dimensional writing. He is literally looking at a picture of her before she was betrayed and infested when he says that.

You're trying to illustrate a point with a throwaway line in a context where he's reflecting on memories, and considering he was reflecting to a time where he was thinking with his dick, that's entirely reasonable. Ironically enough with your statement, Kerrigan read his mind on the first mission they meet and he was seeming to have lewd thoughts about her. It was a different, earlier time, and a picture is of a different memory, and practically of a different person by comparison.

>HotS

>Can't even build fucking Nydus worms yourself when the latter are the only real cool means of forced entry in the entire campaign and feature heavily in multiple cinematics.

>>14828837

>a point with a throwaway line

A throaway that tries to present the idea to the player that maybe killing her isn't the only alternative, which in turn sets up the whole retarded plot of SC2.

aka it's the retarded premise of the whole retarded plot in a single line

>>14828891

that point I can sort of understand, at least.

Still a bit too much meaning to ascribe to it in my opinion, but that's fair to say

>>14818909

This

>>14818895

It's decent and worth playing for free. The issue is that the game killed the RTS genre by making it where STRATEGY doesn't fucking matter and all that matters is being a gook that clicks faster.

>>14842145

That's in all RTS's, AOE2 champ TheViper has insane APM.

>>14818909

what's the sc2 lore rape everyone always talks about ?

>>14842145

RTS was always just APM tbh.

>>14842333

Kerrigan is now a space Jesus who dindu nuffin, and the end plot revolved around "muh corruption" because that's the only plot Blizzard can write.

>>14842145

RTS has always been about your ability to multitask, if you want something to do more with strategy try turn-based.

bumping for the retard of the other thread

>>14850112

space Jesus is quite bad, but that happens at the very end, in the epilogue outside of the 3 campaigns. The first 99% of the story was alright with me

>>14818895

It's great.

>>14818895

The short answer: if you play for free, you get the WoL campaign, multiplayer modes (including ranked), custom games, arcade, and co-op. Three co-op commanders can be leveled all the way to max, and the rest can be leveled up to level 5 before needing to be purchased. The only thing you get from purchasing the campaigns is more single player missions, and LotV also unlocks four more co-op commanders.

Is it worth it? I mean, it's free, so that's a pretty low hurdle to cross. But considering the state of RTS at the moment, you don't have many other options with regards to a decent sized playerbase.

It is very good RTS. Technically it is sequel to W3 while mechanically it is sequel to SC1. Meaning it is extremely good game with extremely shit multiplayer.

Micro is way too autistic for casual play. At the same time it wasn't SC1 autistic level to maintain any pro-scene compared to more popular games. You are much better off playing Age of Empires 2, Warcraft 3 or even SC1 for multiplayer of similar kind. All 3 are still alive and you will be able to find matches.

Story is the most cliche thing possible and written by people who have never played SC1.

At the same time:

Custom maps are actually fine. It won't get to W3 levels of fun but it gives you a lot of stuff to do.

Campaigns are actually good. Each mission is special mechanic you have to deal with.

Co-op is quite good extension to single player campaign giving you more missions and a lot of armies to play them.

For free it is very much worth playing. I would say buying extra heroes and more campaigns is only good deal of you really want to get more of the game.

>>14818895

If you have to ask, you don't have the autism required to play Gookcraft in a competitive environment. Campaign is well designed, story is forgettable, and bot stomps with custom maps and mutators are comfy as ever.