1fd6d4 No.14793158
Hey /v/ I'm a dad, and my son is approaching an age where I'll be able to start introducing him to games. I figure I have a 4 year window after he turns 3 to not screw this up and I've been giving a ton of thought to how I want to approach this. I want to avoid introducing him to new games for as long as I can so I do not immediately shut off all interest in anything older until his much later years. I don't want him anywhere near these modern / mobile games for as long as I can manage. I don't have conventional TV service even to avoid advertising. Figured I'd open up for suggestions from you guys though. Discuss.
30056b No.14793174
>>14793158
Depends on what games you grew up on.
0964bb No.14793178
>>14793158
Rapelay.
Now that I've helped you you must post pictures of your son in a girly outfit.
Or you could buy a rasperri, a PSP or something like that and make him play the entire library of gb, gbc, gba and even nes
346ba2 No.14793185
>>14793158
If you try to point him towards games you'll fail.
He'll either have a natural interest or he won't, so leave games lying around and if he wants to he'll pick them up. The only way to get into a hobby is self education, you can't force it. If he likes games he'll naturally develop better tastes the older he gets.
tl;dr Do nothing because you'll have no effect either way
fdbd58 No.14793186
Glad to see you prioritize this site to your own child's upbringing.
1fd6d4 No.14793188
>>14793174
I had a strong foundation of playing games with my father at a young age, mostly PC after 94 and the nintendo side into playstation/PC later.
480314 No.14793193
Tetris
Megaman
Puyo
Mayrios 1-World
Dragon Quest games
Ikaruga
Shantae
2D Castlevania
2D Metroids
And you're gonna want to play games with your son too so I recommend
Street Fighter 2
Mario Karts
Sanic Racing
Smash Bros
Also I recommend giving him other hobbies like model kit building so that little fucker has something to do to develop his dexterity outside of reaction time.
1fd6d4 No.14793194
>>14793178
I was kinda thinking to push through the history of the best of the best probably starting on Super Mario Bros
1fd6d4 No.14793203
>>14793193
Oh I have plans to push a bit towards martial arts and boy scouts so he doesn't end up a turbo autist but we'll see how it plays out I'll insist on him having atleast 1 creative, 1 physical, and 1 academic hobby.
fdbd58 No.14793204
>>14793203
>boy scouts
Anon…
1fd6d4 No.14793205
>>14793203
Well now that boy scouts is garbage probably one of the alternates like trail life, or I'll just go camping / hunting with him myself.
0964bb No.14793208
>>14793194
Don't forget to give him games from other platforms too. We don't want him to turn into a nintendrone.
1fd6d4 No.14793209
>>14793208
Been working on a custom hyperspin setup that I will add games too over time.
346ba2 No.14793214
>>14793203
Pffffft
Your kid isn't a fucking barbie doll you can customise. If he's destined to be a basement dwelling autismo there's fuck all you can do to stop that. Stop trying to use your kid like you get to decide every facet of his being.
The best thing you can do as a parent is provide a stable home, a moderate income and to support and encourage your childs hobbies and interests. Not the shit YOU want him to be into, but the shit the kid wants to do.
63dfea No.14793220
just let your kid skip the bullshit and send him to /v/ right away
1fd6d4 No.14793222
>>14793214
The hell I can't, when I was a kid all I wanted to do was sit around and play games but I had good parents that made sure I was involved with physical creative and academic hobbies (which they let me choose) and I am very grateful for that.
0964bb No.14793229
>>14793214
This. Being so hopeful will only make you suffer more in the future. The only thing you can do is to show him that the world goes beyond the normalfag standards and hope he doesn't end up a normi himself.
0f72d3 No.14793230
far cry 5 with all the dlc
346ba2 No.14793233
>>14793222
Yeah and look how that turned out, you ended up here anyway. Don't lie that you don't spend multiple hours a day here like the rest of us do. By all means provide the OPTION for your kid to do stuff, but if your kid likes staying in his room all day playing video games don't be a fucking dick and force him to take karate classes.
0964bb No.14793234
>>14793222
And now look at you, asking for parenting tips in a chan.
1fd6d4 No.14793238
>>14793233
Yeah I don't spend much time on /v/, and I have a successful job and a good family.
63dfea No.14793242
>>14793234
we arent all incel like you
346ba2 No.14793248
>>14793238
Sure thing champ, see you in 20 years when your son hates your guts and is some stoner musician travelling around the world by prostituting himself
1fd6d4 No.14793253
>>14793248
Was that your fate? Seems pretty specific.
923a70 No.14793256
>>14793238
just let your kid do what he wants, discipline him when he needs to.
also watch out for spending all of your money on a stupid phase, let him develop a deep passion for something first– dont go the nuclear option by dropping shit tons of money for something he'll get bored with in a week or so.
also: toys.
0964bb No.14793257
>>14793242
Fuck off fag. You don't know my power lever.
54ef15 No.14793258
Take your kid to a shooting range, you fucking faggot.
1fd6d4 No.14793264
>>14793256
Yeah, thats good advice. He likes building toys so I go with that most of the time, also I have been a martial artist for about 20 years now so there is interest there too even if its him being a goofball. I've just avoided the introduction to games until I was sure I could do it right. My dad did a great job of this by taking me to the game shop, the comic shop, then burgers and shakes almost every friday when I was a kid, and it was some of my most precious memories.
1fd6d4 No.14793266
>>14793258
Already have a .22 for when hes about 6 or 7
1b8347 No.14793267
>>14793233
>ended up here anyway
In this scenario he has a child and presumably a wife, if my kid can manage that he isn't anywhere near a complete failure.
1fd6d4 No.14793272
>>14793267
Ha ha, yeah I have a QT redhead wife.
923a70 No.14793276
>>14793258
that's pretty cool too.
speaking from experience, when your kid is old enough, like 6 or something, let him cut/skin apples with a dull (but sharp enough) knife. my nephew wanted his apples skinned so i told the little fucker to do it himself with a dinky bread knife. at the first slice he cut himself but it was negligible the next cut he starts peeling like a champ.
but honestly, take him outside for walks and shit, spend time with him and he will be better off than most kids. just dont be overbearing
>>14793272
post pics
54ef15 No.14793277
>>14793266
You better beat discipline and obedience into his ass if you don't want him accidentaly splattering his brains into your living room.
If he seems to become an edgelord in his teens take it away.
1fd6d4 No.14793279
Now that all the faggotry is out of the way I really was mainly just looking for game recommendations to make available.
1fd6d4 No.14793284
>>14793277
It won't be an issue.
1fd6d4 No.14793287
fdbd58 No.14793288
>>14793279
Start off with some Manhunt and Hatred to get him started.
1b8347 No.14793289
>>14793276
>intentionally giving someone a dull knife
Your fucling retarded. The sharper a knife the safer it is for peeling. The more dull it is the more force you use the more likely you jab it into yourself.
0eac77 No.14793292
Play whatever you both enjoy.
Its not that hard dude, don't give him a PC or mobile device and only let him use old consoles
1fd6d4 No.14793300
>>14793288
I was thinking maybe Agony would be a great jumping off point instead
923a70 No.14793303
1b8347 No.14793305
>>14793279
You're not going to find an end all be all list. It will eally depend on what he gravitates towards genre wise, just play the generic classics or consult the /v/ recommended game wiki
10cda4 No.14793314
Video games are minimal effort for maximum pleasure, enjoy having your child not wanting to do anything else.
And If you put limitations to his videogame time, he'll just resent you for most of his childhood.
Make him learn an instrument, and when he gets older, coding.
Give your kid tools to survive instead of time killers.
d3901b No.14793319
>>14793214
> If he's destined to be a
>destined
pleb
346ba2 No.14793331
>>14793319
It's a figure of speech.
As much as people love to go on and on about how "your future is what you make of it" it simply isn't true. Personality is predetermined, nothing can change or influence this. If your kid grows up to be an introverted recluse with autistic hobbies nothing you could've done would've changed that.
1fd6d4 No.14793340
>>14793331
Its likely a bit of nature and nurture really, but I'd like to do my best to avoid that if I can
79b656 No.14793341
>>14793158
Introduce him to Tesseract as an engine to build shit. It's basically CAD mixed with an FPS. I was pretty lonely as a child and still am today, but hot damn if it wasn't for video game level design I would probably be a lot dumber. It's, in my experience, the most organic hybrid of creative endurance and technical practice that can be had playing a video game.
d3901b No.14793344
1fd6d4 No.14793358
>>14793341
Hmm, I will look into it. We live in a rural area in the middle of nowhere so I know its going to be kinda tough for him to find friends without a bit of help, he's already pretty in to building toys and I'm an engineer by trade myself. Working on a 2nd kid atm which should help a bit, eventually I'd like about 4.
79b656 No.14793384
>>14793358
It's not useful for testing fluids like how water flows. It's not useful for electrical engineering like Minecraft's Redstone system is. It IS useful for architecture, layout drafting, and sculpting.
10cda4 No.14793390
Post your wedding band with timestamp, or you're a larping faggot.
1fd6d4 No.14793400
>>14793390
>Posting any personal pictures of anything here.
Not a chance.
1fd6d4 No.14793404
>>14793384
Okay, sounds neat. I do wonder if minecraft will have influenced a massive amount of young people down the path of engineering, should be interesting to see made manifest in a decade or so.
79b656 No.14793406
>>14793358
Also, if your son decides he wants to make a video game, Tesseract is the perfect place to start. The game is already built on a rock solid foundation giving us ways to learn how to code by interpreting what's already in front of us. It's not as intuitive as something like Unity, but it's easily handled by most computers and only amasses to about 500MB for the whole game.
1fd6d4 No.14793407
>>14793393
Its one of my favorites but not exactly meant for a kid anon.
3d122f No.14793409
>>14793314
I hate to say it but this anon's right, don't ignore shit like this.
ae2294 No.14793411
>>14793158
Doesn't really matter what video games you play, kids will even have fun playing with rocks when out of options, I know I did. What matters most is that you play them together. Even something as simple as sitting in the living room together with you making a passing comment about what's happening on screen or giving occasional encouragement and advice will be more than enough. The key to getting your kid to not grow up to be a piece of shit is spending time together. Fishing, studying, hunting, even watching TV can be a good bonding experience under correct supervision.
But for the sake of an argument start with reaction and coordination based stuff when he is young like platformers and beat'emups to ease him in, gradually getting into more complex ones like megaman and catslevania and then introduce stuff that requires pattern recognition and memorization like schmups like touhou. Then you can expand into the first person shooter genre with Doom to develop spacial 3d awareness, using key landscape marks to navigate various places and map reading.
Then when he gets older, you can introduce him to JRPG's like pokemon, final fantasy and dragon quest to help teach him how to read and possible learn a foreign language but really, books are better for that kind of stuff. Then if he likes the genre, you can go deeper with WRPG's like fallout and baldur's gate.
After that, it should be up to him really, with only major genre not covered being competitive fighting and racing games which can be played at any time as long as you play together and real time strategy which in theory would help with teaching planning and resource management but I am not sure about that one.
1fd6d4 No.14793416
>>14793406
If he starts taking an interest in that kind of thing its a good option, though I don't want to pigeon-hole him into a specific technical path either. eventually when hes old enough to start learning real adult life skills I will start to layout the options of what paths are profitable/how to go about them and what paths lead to being jobless in stupid amounts of debt by comparison.
1fd6d4 No.14793420
>>14793411
Of course anon, I love spending time with my family. I even work from home most of the time.
79b656 No.14793426
>>14793416
Makes sense to me, personally I'm a professional pilot for work, and I design video game levels as a creative outlet. Ain't nothing like the rush of having one of your levels played in a local tournament!
1fd6d4 No.14793433
fde85c No.14793443
I'm going to stop you right there, OP
You should give him 1 sport, 1 creative art, and 1 leisure hobby
No videogames before homework
Now with discipline and balanced free time settled, you can focus on his leisure hobby, video games. mind you, if he doesn't like games, you can't force him to play them.
1.- Super Mario World
2.- Megaman games
3.- Disney's magical quest, starring mickey mouse (since he's 3 years old)
super metroid and castlevania might be spooky for a 3 year old, wait until he is 7 to fully enjoy those. Same with turn based rpgs. But when he hits 7:
Super Mario RPG
Dragon Quest 8
Paper Mario
Also give him some healthy puzzle games. Kirby's Avalanche among other puyo puyo games are probably best bet.
Whatever you do don't give him a mobile device or current year trash unless it's a hidden gem like Hollow Knight, Cuphead, Shantae, Shovel Knight or a kid-friendly good game of recent years. Just give him a PC and emulate SNES, N64, Gamecube with him and ideally go by generation.
842c80 No.14793446
Introduce him to a ragnarok online private server and let him enjoy the grind.
1fd6d4 No.14793452
>>14793443
Did you read the thread at all?
fde85c No.14793478
>>14793452
I provided everything you need to know. If I repeated myself, it only highlights its importance.
Fundamentally, simply don't give him current year trash and just give him old consoles or emulate old games.
Just be mindful that he's 3, and don't give him fucking doom at age 4. Wait till he's 10.
9ae315 No.14793485
>>14793411
>learn a foreign language but really, books are better for that kind of stuff
INCORRECT
fdbd58 No.14793497
>>14793478
>and don't give him fucking doom at age 4
Listen to this pleb right here.
1fd6d4 No.14793498
>>14793485
My wife is multi-lingual, she's insisting on teaching other languages but I'm going to let that be her realm. We want to home school because the US school system is shit.
36d69e No.14793500
>being a father
fucking degenerate kill yourself
8a59a0 No.14793536
>>14793498
I know 3 lenguages and it only fucks with you.
842c80 No.14793540
>>14793498
What languages?
1fd6d4 No.14793548
English, Chinese, and Spanish fluently. I only know English.
923a70 No.14793568
>>14793485
books are a shit, just speak in a language and they'll pick it up slowly.
8a59a0 No.14793582
>>14793548
Chinese is a memelenguage. Spanish should be a must tho.
1fd6d4 No.14793592
>>14793582
she used to need it for work.
a0d7ec No.14793593
>>14793158
You came to the wrong place for this kind of advice. /v/ doesn't like or even play video games.
1fd6d4 No.14793599
f17d28 No.14793655
>>14793158
Anon, this experiment has already been conducted. It just turns the kids into indiefags.
https://medium.com/message/playing-with-my-son-e5226ff0a7c3
3d122f No.14793679
>>14793592
>Working with the Chinese
I don't wish that upon anyone
someone post that cap, you know the one
1fd6d4 No.14793706
>>14793679
I've seen it, /pol/, /k/,and /cow/ are my usual boards I've only recently really started posting on /v/
1fd6d4 No.14793716
>>14793655
Read a few pages of that guys twitter. Having a spineless limp dick father turns your kid into an indiefag.
10cda4 No.14793722
>>14793706
Run away while you still have your humanity.
1fd6d4 No.14793739
>>14793722
Yeah you guys seem to have kind of a mixed bag of strange tastes, but I was still curious what kind of input I'd get.
377a76 No.14793762
fdbd58 No.14793766
>>14793739
It's still early, so you'll probably get more input later today.
As most anons said, as long as you're with your kid he'll enjoy next to anything. And once he's a little older he can start his own journey into por- I mean bideo gaems.
Just give him the tools he needs for that and no manuals. Tinkering is half the fun.
b3f570 No.14793772
>>14793548
Tell her that japanese is superior :^)
45f150 No.14793793
>>14793679
ask and you'll recieve
98024f No.14793798
>>14793158
well, it kinda depends what he likes to do.
In my house, my brothers and I play different kinds of games:
I prefer things like TF2, Darkest Dungeon, RPGs and other shooters
The younger brother can't has Polygonal aim and problem solving, but he adores anything complicated and hard, like Bloodborne or Dark Souls
The youngest only likes fighting games and platformers
But if you need a really specific game, I'd recommend Pokemon. That's at least how I started playing.
0b85b3 No.14793803
>>14793158
>not lovingly crafting new games or maps for your son to play through and stimulate his imagination by self-inserting himself into your fictional narrative of his eternal war to keep the orcs of Aztek at bay and keep the subversive rat-men of Ish-rool from poisoning the mind of the King
What are you doing?
98024f No.14793806
>>14793478
>he didn't play doom when he was 4
98024f No.14793815
>>14793803
This is /v/, not /tg/
but you do have a point. OP, have you considered tabletop with the family?
1fd6d4 No.14793821
>>14793803
Thats what tabletop is for.
1fd6d4 No.14793823
>>14793815
I have DM'd in the past but it would be a matter of rounding up enough people to play with.
1fd6d4 No.14793828
>>14793806
I didnt even play doom till I was like 7 I didnt have a pc till like 95.
7df434 No.14793851
Galaga
R-Type
Gradius II
Super Metroid
ac705f No.14794070
start him with the classics. focus on multiplayer to get him into quake and the like. if you get him playing games with nice challenge where you may not beat it, and the kid is trying at something repeatedly and his body is tensing up over difficult jumps… you've done right.
c73e52 No.14794095
>>14794070
>focus on multiplayer
Shit tier advice.
ac705f No.14794175
>>14794095
>playing vidya with your kid is shit tier advice.
so what do you plan? give the kid a stack of games like homework?
0ae6ac No.14794185
Sonic
Five Nights at Freddys
Undertale
Minecraft
Overwatch
c73e52 No.14794206
>>14794175
So you suggest to put the child against bots (because the father will not always play with him) but call my shit homework. What about a healthy and varied diet of singleplayer RPG, multiplayer like COD or Mario Party and the occasional offshoot like Wario Ware or Ape Escape?
ac705f No.14794231
>>14794206
how the fuck are those like quake multiplayer you illiterate nigger?
are you suggesting COD and mario party for his first experience with multiplayer after first getting him into video using singleplayer RPGs?
how retarded are you?
kids cant get into RPGs, but they excel at atari/platformer type games, so throw him into a game he cant understand, then bring him straight to casual mutliplayer trash? do you want the kid to hate video games?
576bf4 No.14794246
Just a general word of advice, but I think the two most important things to expose your kid to is variety, and challenge. Everybody has different tastes in terms of the themes and genres they enjoy, so it's good to provide a lot of different options. Some racing games, some platforming, some RPG, Sim/Tycoon, strategy, puzzle, sandbox, fighting, and shooters when they're a little older. Secondly, I think it's very crucial that at least a solid portion of the games they are exposed to should be challenging. Give them games that reward skill and perseverance, help them a little if they ask but don't handhold them, and definitely never give them cheat codes for a game they haven't beaten. My little brother uses cheats and mods to help him beat games all the time, and as a result he has no patience for gitting gud. Now, I'll share some of the games I enjoyed as a child or think a kid would do well to play.
NINTENDO:
Anything first-party is going to be a solid choice for children. Plenty of variety among their library, fun but still challenging (pre-Wii era at least), completely lacking in any modern political poz. Paper Mario 64 and TTYD in particular are fantastic RPGs, with a battle system with small damage/health numbers making them good for children just learning basic arithmetic. Early Pokemon is also solid, and stuff on the Gameboy is very easy to emulate. Others have already spoken for a lot of good NES/SNES games so I won't repeat them here.
PC:
Minecraft and Terraria make good "baby's first PC" games (moreso MC than Terraria). Both also make good games to play WITH your kid, which should be a quality you aim for in a lot of the games you make available. After that, try classic RTS series like Starcraft, Warcraft, and C&C. I personally grew up with a lot of tycoon games like Zoo Tycoon, Sid Meier's Railroads, Pirates, and Simcity 3000/4000. The Civilization series is great as well (Civ II, IV, and Alpha Centauri are the best ones). RPGs like KOTOR I&II. Deus Ex, Thief (original) I&II. Portal. Zachtronics games are excellent for actually teaching problem solving skills or straight up programming, so definitely try those.
For introducing them to proper shooters, I recommend TF2. You can use the censored German version which replaces all blood/gore with cartoony robot parts, and disable voice chat/sprays to keep it clean. TF2's comedic style and excellent gameplay makes it a great early FPS experience, though I don't know if the game will still be alive by the time your kid is old enough to play it. Then give them Doom, Quake, etc.
That's all I can think of off the top of my head, but of course there's so much out there to choose from. My best advice is to try and find things you both enjoy playing together, as that's what is going to help you bond and have fun. Try not to overwhelm them with too many choices right from the start either, as I think it's good for each individual game to be valuable to them. Introduce new games gradually, perhaps during special occasions like their birthday, Christmas, and the end of each school year (as a gift for good grades).
cdb875 No.14794257
>>14793203
If you're serious about making him take up martial arts make sure he doesn't do taekwondo, it's full of queers. If it's karate, make sure it's kyokushin. Other good choices are boxing, muay thai, judo, sambo or jiu-jitsu.
c73e52 No.14794261
>>14794231
Where the fuck do you see me saying that those game are like Quake? Fucking nigger. And yea, kids can get into RPG, just look at Pokemon you fucking moron. The point of OP is that his son ends up with good taste in games, thing that will end not happening if you put him to play competitive trash because of how the big fucking e-sports are going to get in the future. By doing what you are saying the kid will end up wanting to play trash like Overwatch and Counter.
ac705f No.14794283
>>14794261
>Where the fuck do you see me saying that those game are like Quake?
so you admit to being an illiterate nigger? maybe start by reading the post you replied to. or is that too much for your nigger monkey brain to handle?
do you need me to link it to you and quote myself?
here.
>>14794070
>. focus on multiplayer to get him into quake and the like.
>>14794070
>focus on multiplayer
Shit tier advice.
see nigger? thats how reading works. now go to the top right of your "screen" and click the X. got that nigger?
7f474e No.14794301
ac705f No.14794306
>>14794261
also, his kid is almost 3. do you think he reads well enough to play pokemon you fucking stupid nigger?
f4f3e0 No.14794322
>>14793655
At least he's got decent (not good, but decent) taste in indieshit. I'm almost jealous because my dad was just an abusive asshole who smashed my computer in a fit of religiously charged rage.
c73e52 No.14794340
>>14794283
Can't you comprehend that I'm saying focusing in the multiplayer is a mistake? The kid needs to do things on their own. I'm not saying that he shouldn't play with his son though but you should know that if you read my post. But you didn't, right?
And you should capitalise your words before calling me a nigger.
>>14794306
Oh, now you are mad. Yea, he's old enough to play Quake but not to play Pokemon, of course. Fucking moron.
ac705f No.14794366
>>14794340
>still cant read
i said start him on the classics, nigger.
you said start him on RPGs, nigger.
i said, to get him into stuff like quake, focus on mutliplayer because single player FPSs are going to be too difficult.
to play quake, the kid just has to know how to use a mouse and left click on the bad guys. while using wasd or arrows to move. pokemon requires that he learns how to read.
try again, nigger. youre wrong on every point you attempted to make.
c73e52 No.14794448
>>14794366
>singleplayer RPG, multiplayer like COD or Mario Party and the occasional offshoot like Wario Ware or Ape Escape
Where do you see me saying that he should star only with RPGs?
>to play quake, the kid just has to know how to use a mouse and left click on the bad guys. while using wasd or arrows to move. pokemon requires that he learns how to read.
Did you even read OP? He says that he thinks he has a 4 year window to teach his kid a good taste in video games. His son will read with 6 or 7.
What a fucking excuse of a human you are. If Op follows your advice he will end as pleb as you and with your same IQ. And capitalise the fucking words, for fucks sake.
be0720 No.14794451
Why introduce him to video games in the first place?
5b4d6d No.14794452
I want normalfags to leave my fucking board right now
ac705f No.14794483
>>14794448
i never said only, i was just pointing out that your recommendations are garbage.
but somehow your nigger monkey brain made you think that if you also offered casual bullshit in addition to a game he wont even be able to play, that makes it an ok suggestion?
fuck off nigger. your argument is shit.
>still cant read
right, so i said start him on the classics. whats the problem with that? to get him into FPSs and the like, start him with stuff like quake mutliplayer. whats the problem with that?
care to try again, nigger? im sure if you keep trying you'll eventually have a single point that isnt objectively shit, right?..
c73e52 No.14794568
>>14794483
>i never said only
Yes, you did by omitting the rest of my suggestions. What you fail to understand is that at that age the child needs to see what the videogame world can offer. And what the fuck means classics? It's the more generic shit you can say. What makes Quake more of a classic than Doom?
To address the casual shit point: It's no secret that the videogame's trends is hugely influenced by FPS and third person shooters right now and will only get bigger so what the fuck do you think will happen if you teach your kid to play a competitive arena shooter?
aa60db No.14794617
>>14794306
I started playing Pokemon Red and enjoyed it when I was 3-4, it's not that hard. I did get stuck some, but not to the point where it would put me off of the game. The later games gave me more difficulty as they came out, so I imagine you can't really do that with the later games. Gen one for age 3-5 is perfectly doable though depending on how quickly he develops. Just don't expect him to beat it that early, he might take some breaks, grind and catch pokemon, or even come back to it later when he's a little older.
ac705f No.14794642
>>14794568
>Yes, you did
quote where i said that, nigger. quote me where i even implied that, nigger.
What makes Quake more of a classic than Doom?
it isnt. i never implied either are classics. though they both are.
>what are classics?
mario, sonic, bonk, astroids, pong, arkanoid, … need me to continue?
by getting him to have quake as a standard for FPSs so he doesnt play casual shit. quake is fast and has a high skill ceiling, going from that to overwatch will seem slow and boring. same goes for shitty cover based shooters like COD.
>>14794617
how old are you?
its doable, but to start a kid into video games, its best to get him into fun games instead of simplistic games about grinding that he will barely understand.
there are just so many better options.
03a79b No.14794656
>>14793158
> I have a 4 year window after he turns 3
Jeez, parents are so careful nowadays. My dad and cousins introduced me to Super Mario World when I was 2!
28e596 No.14794685
>>14793498
Considering you are an American, this might be harder for you to do, but here is how I learned English, or at least learned the fundamentals, as a baby in Eastern Europe. I watched lots and lots of cartoons in English(at that time they weren't dubbed or subbed) and, just by watching those cartoon characters talking, I learned some words, structures and how it "feels", when I started talking I did mix English words with my native language, because I didn't know the difference, now I did study English at school, and my parents did send me to after school to better my English, but I was always among the best, and it's all thanks to those cartoons. Even if your child is 3 it's not too late, when I was 5-6, there was German channel that aired DB, Sailor Moon, and other anime in german, and I did start to figure out one or two words(such as kinder means child), but for some reason I stopped watching that channel.
So suggest this to your wife, to give your child ONLY and ONLY dubbed cartoons or anime in spanish or german or whatever she wants. Absolutely no English cartoons, and only one foreign language.
>inb4 dubbed anime
Unless you want your child to become a weabo, you are better off teaching him Chinese.
c73e52 No.14794692
>>14794642
>quote where
I can't quote you because you don't say my other suggestions.
>mario, sonic, bonk, astroids, pong, arkanoid, … need me to continue?
So we were arguing the same exact thing. Nice.
>by getting him to have quake as a standard for FPSs so he doesnt play casual shit. quake is fast and has a high skill ceiling, going from that to overwatch will seem slow and boring. same goes for shitty cover based shooters like COD.
The difference is that Quake is competitive while COD is not. Even if all the competitive FPS after Quake are shit he will play them if he likes the genre.
464149 No.14794705
>>14793220
>daddy are traps gay?
df5241 No.14794717
2970d8 No.14794723
I just installed some of my fav games into grandma's PC so cousins can play some games.
The boy adores Doom and Rayman games and the girl was disgruntled that Senran Kagura:EV works like ass (she played it on my PSTV and loved it) so she just browses internet and sometimes tries out stuff like Lemmings.
ac705f No.14794739
>>14794692
>The difference is that Quake is competitive while COD is not.
why
>>14794692
>i cant quote where you said or implied that because you never said or implied that and i was just being a kike.
ok
>So we were arguing the same exact thing
yes, because NES and atari games are just like mario party and call of duty.
>Quake is competitive
>competitive games are bad. well, that excludes pong and checkers then, right?
nigger, are you stupid? you can do local coop to teach the kid, add bots, coop against them with your son, and the game is still fast, fun, and with a high skill ceiling that will expose him to how fun an FPS can be, so going to cover based shooters is boring.
if he chooses to play trash, you cant fix that, and certainly exposing him to trash as you suggested isnt going to fix that. the best you can do is give him standards. not shit standards like you, but high standards.
>COD is not
bait?
2970d8 No.14794740
>>14794723
I'll also add that boy wants to play Worms Armageddon whenever I'm around but usually he just wants to fuck around so matches quickly stop making any sense
ac705f No.14794763
>>14794656
according to my parents i started playing atari 2600 games when i was ~1 year old, guess a joystick and 1 button was simple enough for a babby to play. and eventually my parents got a used colecovision that i barely remember.
turbografx was the first console i actually remember playing more than a vague vision.
aa60db No.14794764
>>14794642
>how old are you?
24. Looking at the release date… Well, looks like I would've been 4 already, actually. We got Red and Blue when they came out. Still, RPGs aren't that far off for him.
>its doable, but to start a kid into video games, its best to get him into fun games instead of simplistic games about grinding that he will barely understand.
Eh, I understood the gist from the anime and the Pokemon craze at the time. I can see how it wouldn't be quite as fun without the context. I guess you could always download the anime and show it to him, then if he was interested you could let him play the game. If not, wait until he's older and let him try some other RPG if he wants.
0a0d46 No.14794775
Consider why games have been a part of successful human civilization for tens of thousands of years. They're a microcosm that teaches you to compete. You would better yourself through games and become a stronger person, or vicariously be inspired to be stronger. It gives you a taste of victory at an early age and the mindset required to achieve it.
Today, most games are designed to simulate that learning process and just hand you a victory. They're entirely masturbatory and degenerate. They ban "toxic" players who pressure you to improve. You remain weak, and possibly are taught to see competition as a negative and are thus permanently crippled.
When giving games to a child, think carefully which type of game you're giving them. Don't let their mind be poisoned by weakness. They need to git gud.
ffd7bc No.14794785
>>14793185
this, if you have a collection of games or something then see if he can catch you playing something good one day. That way he'll think he's discovering games instead of you introducing them to him.
03a79b No.14794791
>>14794763
Nice. I wish I had an Atari 2600 as a kid. I still want one now. Also, upon reading more of the thread, OP seems like a fucking faggot, so I'm abandoning ship.
>I'm going to get my kid into martial arts and make him badass
>Also I will give him my gun when he's 6
>I have a successful job and a hot wife and I will never be like you basement dwellers and I never even come on here
804988 No.14794798
>>14793158
You basically have your answer here >>14793188 dubs don't lie.
Anyway play the kind of games that you would enjoy playing with him, if you enjoy it he will. It worked with my little brother.
And as far as your stance on modern titles, outside of Nintendo there are only a few titles that are good and that can be played by/with children unless you go indie and they'll come down to your tastes and the tastes he develops.
One thing though, use moderation.
ffd7bc No.14794799
>>14793158
when he's 10 go balls out and play guilty gear or virtua fighter or some shit with him. All kids dream of playing fighting games with their dads.
a035bd No.14794803
>>14794775
This.
Give them games that have arcade-style difficulty, where continue and lives have to be earned, and there are actual consequences for game-overs. The Genesis library is absolutely full of these, and there are also many on the SNES.
ac705f No.14794820
>>14794764
>RPGs aren't that far off for him
why do you think RPGs are a good way to nurture a childs taste in games? and pokemon at that?
>>14794775
kids love competition in games. i've played extremely young kids in street fighter 2 and would slaughter them. after a few matches of losing they start getting super intense. super into the game, super focused, they'll start standing infront of the TV, and usually are determined to win and will play for hours.
you gotta act like youre trying hard, and they wont even be mad. the only time they'll get upset is when you want to stop playing. i had one of my cousins who didnt let me switch to a different character because he wanted to beat me as that character. and didnt want to win just because i switched to someone else.
>>14794785
kids that old dont hate their parents. most are actually super excited just to spend time with you.
>>14794791
dont buy one online… find one at a garage sale in a box with 50 games unless you feel like paying a premium, sadly.
cdb875 No.14794850
>>14794820
>kids love competition in games. i've played extremely young kids in street fighter 2 and would slaughter them. after a few matches of losing they start getting super intense. super into the game, super focused, they'll start standing infront of the TV, and usually are determined to win and will play for hours.
There are also ones who'll throw tantrums like a little bitch, but what you described is a great way to separate the wheat from the chaff.
f8b36e No.14794880
>>14793158
>Hey /v/ I'm a dad, and my son is approaching an age where I'll be able to start introducing him to games. I figure I have a 4 year window after he turns 3 to not screw this up and I've been giving a ton of thought to how I want to approach this.
what about enjoyable educational games? like games that "coincidentally" encourage you to figure out how to do useful skills (like math, reading, visual processing, problem solving) better.
more broadly, games can help your child figure out how to solve puzzles of various kinds. including visual puzzles, math puzzles, language puzzles, boss puzzles, etc.
pro-tip: everybody can be better, including children and adults
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Learning_Company
treasure mathstorm gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_56SSA4eJvs
treasure cove gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DfCO5Tsi_Lg
gizmos & gadgets gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wei0C21LBNM
oregon trail 2 gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zLn0YuOXXgo
yukon trail gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXhTHTpD8gg
operation neptune gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0K-4jHucxs
robot odyssey gameplay: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GJeseZEZn6Y
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robot_Odyssey
Robot Odyssey is an adventure game, published by The Learning Company in 1984. Released for the Apple II, TRS-80 Color Computer, and DOS, it has been referred to as the hardest computer game of all time.[1]
0a0d46 No.14794905
>>14794850
>There are also ones who'll throw tantrums like a little bitch
They're kids. You teach them how to handle a defeat and recover from it.
ac705f No.14794953
>>14794850
>There are also ones who'll throw tantrums like a little bitch
maybe on the first. but when you play fighting games, they cant expect to win every single one. theyre also short matches so its not like playing for 10-30 minutes then losing.
im around brats most often and the worst they do is what i described. the "better" kids are just amazed/impressed "woah how did you do that move?"
now thats much different from losing at the end of a 8 minute mario kart race. that shit gets kids mad. but also playing games with points and taking turns.
"i got x points in astroids"
"ok, let me try"
"ok, when you beat that let me know"
>proceeds to play game for hours trying to beat my score
ac705f No.14795052
>>14794740
>Worms Armageddon
0b7e73 No.14795059
>>14793158
I am going to encourage my son to kiss girls and read good litterateur first. Vidia is a minor art, he'll have all the time in the world to lose his time over it later.
14f32c No.14795204
>wanting your child to play videogames
Video games are not worth playing and wont teach you how to survive in the harsh decades to come. Shooting and lifting should be priority number one.
t. man who will never breed
42d3b8 No.14795224
>>14795204
You must believe in the power of rape
71a19b No.14795229
Get him playing the WarioLand games, at least 3 and 4. When he's older, you also want to get him playing games that lets him learn and express his own creativity. One anon mentioned Tesseract and that's a great place to start. It's based off of the Cube 2 Engine, so it runs on toasters. The level editor is really intuitive and simple so that anyone can make a decent map while learning about layout, texture mapping, lighting design and all of that. Sauerbraten Cube 2 is fun and has tons of fan-made maps available in the game and even more on quadropolis. If he's into lighting, he might find it annoying to constantly calclight 1 everytime he places down a new light entity. That's why Tesseract exists. It uses some cool shit like real time GI and radiance hints so you can change shit on the fly without calclighting. Sauerbraten for maps and good old fun. Tesseract for smoother editing.
He should really be learning music and languages though. Those two things are gonna really help develop his brain.
a68c8d No.14795250
>>14793548
Spanish is a good gateway to learn other romance languages. Skip Mandarin because no one likes working with chinks.
1c9eed No.14795561
start him off with chess and physical exercise
1c9eed No.14795569
>>14794775
games exist to make you a good soldier, trained to kill, murder, conquer
9fa983 No.14796732
>>14795250
Spanish is a disgusting language for subhumans. You have to go back Pedro.
b3f570 No.14796813
>>14795760
oh yes, show your children a vn like unteralterbach
everything will be fine :^)
c61596 No.14796819
>>14793214
You're a fucking retard. The sole purpose of a parent is to give their child a proper mold in which to grow, and then help the child grow and stretch the mold in such a way that they are an individual who has critical thinking, but that also has (un)common sense enough to not be a full autismo or retard like yourself.
a60f4b No.14796839
>>14793158
Start him off with:
Putt Putt games
Sam and Max Hit the Road
Chip's Challenge
d3a4c0 No.14797010
>>14796839
>Chip's Challenge
>for a kid
YOU FUCKING MONSTER