/v/ - Video Games

>>14763750

Jesus christ. I mean i can still see why though, I’m sure some exec still sees all the numbers with lootboxes as good and worth the risk of alienating a base, breaking eventual laws, and just being jewey in general

>>14763841

They're doing it because they know they'll be exempt from any enforcement. Hell, they're probably in on this shit to get rid on any competition.

>>14763863

>blaming companies for making money

>not blaming those stupid enough to pay for this shit

If people could be responsible for their own actions there would be no need to regulate. but all games with gambling and loot boxes are gambling should be 18+

>>14763877

Everyone on Earth could stop buying EA games and they'd still use their microransactions to launder money they embezzle back into themselves.

>>14763750

Honestly there's nothing wrong with cosmetic only lootboxes if the game is fairly priced or even free. Obviously that's not the case with EA but the business model isn't inherently cancerous. The way TF2 does it is amazing because as usual Valve used to know how to keep both their profit and the community in balance. Actually even CS:GO doesn't have any gameplay changing skins.

>>14763907

I should add that I don't mean anyone should pay for them, leave that to the retards. It's basically a way of taxing brainlets to fund the free/cheap playtime of smarter players. Again though this only applies if they don't change gameplay and they're only buying some pixels.

>>14763920

>paying $60 for the game already

I specifically said only if the game is free or cheap to account for it.

>>14763924

>calls me reddit

>uses a months old video instead of coming up with his own argument

>>14763907

>>14763917

t. EA

>>14763886

Um they didn't create a new law just made existing laws apply to video games. So the punishment for the crime is like 10+ years in jail.

>>14763927

I literally said in my post this doesn't apply to EA because they will still jew you for full price and will sell gameplay unlocks. Read the words faggot.

>>14763893

While valve certainly started it if no one had paid it would have been dead within a year, but people did pay.

I have done everything I possibly could (never paid for anything in game, never brought gold, never paid a power leveler ect.) but others have done this and if you are one of them then the blame lies with you.

>>14763915

>legal morality

This pisses me off, they act like the government has a monopoly on morality despite knowing they are corrupt as fuck in most cases.

>>14763930

>So the punishment for the crime is like 10+ years in jail.

>EA's execs are not belgian nor in belgium

Well there it is, the punishment is literally nothing.

>>14763907

>cosmetic only lootboxes

so… they don't work, just look pretty? fine by me.

>>14763958

> just look pretty?

No, they don't do that either.

>>14763958

Even then I'm against them, vidya is the only entertainment media that pulls this shit. Can you imagine watching a movie and at the end they say "there are after credit jokes, pay $5 to see them" or going to a concert and the band says "we'll do an encore for people willing to pay extra now"? This is what in game transactions are and the only other entertainment like this is strippers that'll whore for some extra cash.

>>14763979

>Can you imagine watching a movie and at the end they say "there are after credit jokes, pay $5 to see them"

What about the extended versions of films?

>Now we get government regulations on vidya AND loot boxes

T-thanks

>>14763979

>or going to a concert and the band says "we'll do an encore for people willing to pay extra now

Bands regularly release limited run special editions of their albums or singles with hidden bonus tracks also. Paid for skins are more like paying for a 'better' seat at the movie or in the concert anyway you get the same exact experience but with meaningless addons that make you feel special.

>>14763987

Not all kinds of government regulations are bad, it's just that almost all of them are bad but not because the concept itself is bad.

Illegalizing lootboxes can only ever be a good thing, whereas south korea's system in which you need south korea's version of a state ID to register in an online game is fucked up.

>>14763986

>>14763992

In those cases you can wait a while after release and get all the content, what game with micro-transactions has this option? DLC / expansions are not micro-transactions

>>14763997

As above for albums, as for concerts I would say that is more analogous to hardware than software.

Want to see better? Sit closer / get a better monitor.

Want to hear bettter? Get decent headphones / soundcard.

>>14764016

>In those cases you can wait a while after release and get all the content

Not legally unless you pay. A lot of the time bonus tracks that only got one obscure release are actually next to impossible to find without pirating them.

>>14764030

Fair point, I guess the music industry was the first outside of whores to do this.

>>14763937

>like the government has a monopoly on morality

Because it does, dear. Government can commit all sorts of things that otherwise are considered as crime: murder, theft, rape and this would legal and just. Mere people can't do that. This is government privilege to decide what is legal and moral.

>>14764008

Give those fuckers an inch and they'll take a mile, and once you give a government power, you never get it back

>>14763750

EA is trying to outdo Israel in sheer concentrated Judaism. They've basically reached cartoon levels of evil.

>>14764049

No it's not. It's taken by force and needs to be taken back force. It's their currency after all.

>>14764057

The same is true to private enterprise, regulation is needed because without it you have China where people sell toxic fake eggs because they are more profitable than real eggs.

No extreme is right and you need to find a middle ground.

>>14763907

The only time Cosmetic MTX are acceptable is in the case of licensed material for cross-over purposes. And I say it's ok for two reasons:

1. The act of licensing a property from another company actually represents a significant investment that wouldn't otherwise be possible in the base game. It's not something you're really able to get away from. Purchasers would not be paying for the cosmetics so much, as they would for the licenses to use that content and the jew lawyers who negotiate it's use.

2. The artistic discontinuity between base-game content and licensed content is typically so vast that it makes the retards who bought licensed content easy to pick out of a crowd and bully.

>>14764049

Yeah, reported.

>>14764036

Well they're just whores with suits on.

>>14764089

>oy vey you're reddit because i say things only reddit says

Yeah, reported. No one cares about your commie shit here.

>>14764093

no,he's telling you to fuck off back to >>>/reddit/ where you belong

>>14764108

>channer

>>14764116

Welcome to current decade anon, browsers don't need the extension to tell them if an image is animated and will animate any gif no matter the extension so long as it's an image extension.

>>14764116

>what is apng

>>14764070

it's kinda surreal how I considered this guy just an old crazy fart once.

>>14764131

He's just old enough that killing his career isn't a major issue so he can say what he thinks rather than what his employer tells him to think.

>>14764070

Americans have access to weapons, so what? It doesn't stop state from robbing them in thousands way with income tax, federal reserve, confiscation of gold, mandatory alimony etc. It doesn't stops police shooting citizens with impunity at the car stops, it doesn't stops police from throwing white boys into prisons if their girlfriends regret about their sex, where white boys are gonna be raped by guards and inmates. It doesn't stops abortions. All above is 100% unconstitutional. Government is alpha and omega.

>>14764145

I still wonder what compelled EA to actually allow developers to experiment and make Mirror's Edge and Dead Space 1. The board of directors must have been snorting quite a lot of coke at that moment.

>>14764138

As far as I know, he was never any other way, or at least since the 90s.

>>14764139

The difference is that if Americans got angry about their government, it wouldn't be them who would make compromises. The problem, though, is that it's hard to stir up people conditioned for years to be docile.

>>14764139

>It doesn't stop state from robbing them in thousands way with income tax, federal reserve, confiscation of gold

Excuse me, what?

>mandatory alimony

Ditto on this (Unless you were married).

>It doesn't stops police shooting citizens with impunity at the car stops

That doesn't happen

>it doesn't stops police from throwing white boys into prisons if their girlfriends regret about their sex

That doesn't happen either.

>where white boys are gonna be raped by guards and inmates

Majority of the abusers in prisons are women.

>It doesn't stops abortions.

>>14764156

Yeah there was a brief time when people were trying to make out EA to be the lesser evil compared to Activision/Valve or indie retards.

>>14764148

Big studios can spend a couple of million without thinking twice so if a brown nose wants their passion project they might just get a couple of million to make it happen. This is what leads to the really fucking shit unconventional games but sometimes, just sometimes that brown nose actually likes vidya and has a good idea.

>>14764162

Of course when I say "people", you could very well replace it with "astroturfers". EA has legit done undercover marketing on image boards before.

>>14763924

<soyboys chimp out

Glad they don't have funs.

>>14764162

Really? Here or on halfchan? If it was here I suspect it was literal shills as I'm rarely on when the US is awake and never saw it.

>>14764181

This was back on halfchan, a bit before GG.

>>14764168

I was in that fucking Mass Effect 3 thread, the one where the EA marketer spilled the beans, before he actually went and did it. I still lament that I wasn't able to ask him anything.

>>14764189

It would have been shills for sure, back then we have dice asking /v/ for game ideas.

>>14763926

Fuck off back to plebbit with your cancer.

>>14764238

It's all a Ponzi scheme.

>>14763877

>blaming companies for making money

Yes, because companies are led by people, and those people are the ones who decide how they make that money. Just because they can use exploitative practices and get away with it, doesn't mean they're excused when they do.

>>14764196

Reminder that your cat mascot is the self-insert of the pig tranny BO from that one famous webm.

>>14764238

We all know they are going to get sued over loot boxes this year so buy cheap during the panic sell if you hate vidya enough to do that.

Personally I hold a little BAE Systems and feel better about that than the thought of buying EA.

>>14763877

>Retards supporting evil companies

This is why we need to start killing people.

>>14764283

Include me in the screencap when you point and shout as us h8channers for being evil nazees.

>>14764280

We all know they are already posting out the brides, that is the way of the west these days.

>>14764283

Use ID if you want to know my opinions.

>>14764283

>people buying into things from companies that i dont like must be killed.

That's some next level autism.

>>14763877

People are responsible for their own actions and parents are responsible for the actions of their children. The second this stops being the case you are now a slave to whatever higher power you gave your responsibility to. If you give money knowingly to game with garbage you hate in it is your own damn fault. Try to be better and don't do it again next time, or ask for help if you cannot trust yourself. Do not whine to others and demand shit be taken away or regulated.

>>14764300

Why are you repeating my own argument to me?

There's nothing but shitty loot box games and terrible capeshit movies.

These are masses of human waste who don't have a single spark of independent thought in their heads. You can tell them the truth repeatedly but they never listen. There's nothing you can do to help these people. They're responsible for the niggerfication of society. They have to go.

>>14763947

>>14763927

I might have made a shit argument but why was my post deleted

Anyhow if dumb people like to waste away their money how are we going to solve it?

>>14763877

People are as good as the standards they're measured up to. If you say that people are individualists and are special and don't need no pressure will eventually become hapless retards who "need" government to take care of them for them.

>>14764312

>They have to go.

They're not the disease anon, they're a symptom of a sick and decaying society. Their lives have been stripped of meaning and purpose so they take what they can get, and often find it in video games.

>>14764268

So you are a rogue agent?

>>14764350

There's no denying that the posting quality on /pol/ has declined with its growing popularity. Just look at 4/pol/ if you wanna see where that road goes.

>>14764255

There isn't a single legitimate /pol/ack that still uses nu/pol/ after the cuckchan takeover last month. You'd unironically have more productive discussions about ethno nationalism on /leftypol/ with how fucked /pol/ has become.

>>14764376

I thought that's what /polk/ and now /zenpol/ were for.

>>14763920

>that pic

that would only be a threat in monun once they remove the original monhun devs, who know and use their consistent returns to bully crapcom into not touching monhun.

kinda wish they could copy a lock-on that doesn't give me high blood-pressure every time i switch to looking at a monster on another tile instead of the one im actively fighting and currently looking at.

but they've made statements directly attacking i-buy-power in-game stores and their impact on player community.

>>14763907

it is ironic how blizzard has the least cancerous versions of this shit, considering what they're doing to overwatch socially enacting 1984-style surveillance.

>>14764382

/pol/ was really just a good source of daily news and happenings with some decent bants. But over the last few months it got a poop-socking NEET moderator driving the board into the ground. Couple that with the fact cuckchan has been constantly going down and you've got the perfect recipe for a cuckchan takeover. It's absolutely irredeemable.

/polk/ and /zenpol/ are too slow to keep up with the news cycle, and /zenpol/ is some faggot shit anyways with their low-energy rules.

>>14763907

Kill yourself

>>14764082

>>14764093

>>14764115

>>14764144

>>14764196

>>14764294

>>14764439

Jesus dude stop shitposting so hard

>>14764439

No cunt likes EA.

>>14764439

Why does he have 93 golden stars and what do they mean?

>>14764457

>Why does he have 93 golden stars and what do they mean?

one for every relative lost in the shoah.

>>14764457

Faggot fanboys can't resist the urge to waste money for their corporate overlords even outside of games

>>14764279

I've heard that if you get into investments, you have to completely detach yourself emotionally from the company. I hate EA and love vidya, so to invest in them is cancerous, but in terms of the bottom line, their numbers look solid.

Remember the Vegas shooting? An anon said that OSI Systems, a company that does metal detectors etc., was lobbying to have more of its product in wake of the event (eg they had a financial incentive for the shooting to happen). They went on further to say that in a "few years", their stocks would spike because they'd be bought out by another security company. But they're a really scummy company, apparently. I was thinking of grabbing a few of them

>>14763992

this picture pisses me off SO FUCKIGN MUCH. i have that fucking box set somebody got for me and i thought "oh cool, blu ray. thosre like 20-40gb, surely they can fit the entire movie on one."

nope. each movie is 3 disks. 9 total + bonus features.

fucking retarded bullshit.

>>14764475

Sad.

As long as EA has FIFA and Battlefield they can do whatever they want they dont care

>>14764480

The business world is disgusting.

>>14764493

There is no such thing as "finished on time", if you're meeting a deadline, you're not living up to the original vision

Games are never finished, only abandoned

>>14764475

>you can pay to get a premium experience on thoughtpolice.com

Every day of my life I find a new form of unbearable despair.

>>14764449

Jesus

>>14764376

>last month

>>14764401

>last few months

More like the last two years. Remember before the election when there was actual discussion and not just shills calling shills shills?

>>14764457

Good goyim actually buy those gold stars so they can give them to posts they like.

EDIT: Thanks for the gold!

>>14764028

All games with randomized rewards are a form of gambling, you just pay with time instead of money. Many consider paying directly better than going time->job->game but i would say the loss is actually greater.

The time investment in real jobs can be longterm used to improve your earnings and is transferable to other things if needed. The time investment in a game offers no improvement to your real situation. So the longterm the cost for putting your time in a game directly is much higher due to loss of progression in real live.

Now don't get me wrong i'm not paying anything into lootboxes but i rather pay for shit directly to skip grinding over paying with time in a game. Worst case i rather invest time to code bots than invest time in grinding in games. The coding skills are likewise transferrable and save time longterm while the grinding offers nothing longterm.

>>14764554

>If the creator considers that the game is finished it is. Even if is a fucking mess.

So if a game is released because a publisher says so and the creator agrees with it and calls it finished despite cut content, then it's "finished"

>>14764560

All the games that you consider complete have in fact cut content.More info here:https://tcrf.net/The_Cutting_Room_Floor.

Keep in mind that I'm talking about administrative levels. I the guy in charge comes to Sega/Konami/EA/whatever and says that the game is already finished in ideal conditions they are going to launch it (after focus testing, certification and all that shit). When the game is out then the ones that say if the game is finished are us of course.

>>14764549

>people that don't want to pay with their time don't buy grindfest games

>less market for grindfest games

>developers release less grindy games

???

The current state incentivizes devs to make a game with grind so they can offer a paid shortcut, when there is no need for the grind to exist in the first place.

This is actually fine. EA has a captive audience of street shitters and chinks and other gaymers, why not exploit the fuck out of them?

They'll literally take any form of abuse and simply open their wallets wider in response.

>>14763886

That Belgian law only applies to the more consumer friendly lootboxes that let you trade/sell the drops you get from boxes (like in Dota or CS).

EA is fine.

>>14764617

Because it may become the standard.

>>14764303

how would you have made it

>>14763855

Canada is probably in on it.

>>14763877

It should be instant esrb/pegi/cero 19 or A rating which means they cannot release anything lootbox related on consoles thus seriously neutering the potential consumer base and preventing console owning normalfags from being paypigs.

>>14763907

There really is. Cosmetics were a reward for autistic players who went and played the game 210% now it punishes those who have autistic tendancies by waving in their face that they cannot even get 90% completion without paying more than the base cost of the game.

>>14764148

They did it to test waters before they ea'd the games to death, it was slight learning from when they ea'd epic mickey 1 and 2.

Wait for openings (maybe a big convention), and kill EA's owners, employees and shareholders.

>>14764333

I think I should stop browsing 8ch and go read a book instead. What I meant is that if you raise people to be stupid, teach them, condition them, take obligations away from them, they'll be stupid, or at least the majority. People are too lazy to become actually decent on their own, you have to make them.

You almost have to admire how evil EA wants to be. Most have abandoned when they saw the trouble on the horizon but EA stays the course. They should have deserved a golden poo award 3-years straight but were lucky because of the voting changes.

>>14764584

Completly agree with that. The problem is the pushback against this is just the mentionen botting and the RTM market wich both are always really small compared to the userbases. The overall market voted for it the same way these people accepted shitty ToS practices among other crap without a glimpse.

And personally i think the broad masses are fucked in the head. We heard rants about asian grinders for a good decade but give them orders like school tasks over quests as "kill 10 rats" repeatedly and they will obediently grind while praising the game despite it being completly identical to the asian grinder gameplay. The other issue is difficulty. Grind wouldn't be grind if there was a challenge to it - all gameplay has repetition after all. The difference is most pvp games offer scaling difficulty through a ladder system. All pve games mostly have a rather static enviroment with difficulty set for the average retard wich makes it a pure mindless bore for anyone above. Singleplayer cames had difficulty setting for this but online-games never did any meaningfull scaling. The highest difficulties for npc's are mostly just a matter of gearing til you can fly through it eyes closed.

TFW your cat knows better than you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVKuSn8OSXI

>>14764401

>>14764539

>le ebin /pol/ oldfag

<go back to cuckchan, goy, it's where the real natzees are ;^)

You first, cuck

>>14763877

>If people could be responsible for their own actions there would be no need to regulate.

Which is why there is need to regulate. There are ways to control companies and tell them to knock it off. You can't tell people to stop being stupid.

>>14765510

Nobody even suggested going back to cuckchan except you, retard.

Shit company continues abusing gambling addictions for free money instead of making interesting games

In further news: Water is wet

>>14765510

Everybody knows us fellow nazis are at reddit. Let's all return to there.

>>14765610

Yeah, but the way they do it is pretty fucking terrifying. They hire psychologists to develop the best ways to exploit people. It's like when banks use tests to identify sociopaths to hire said sociopaths because they don't have any qualms about foreclosing on someone's home.

>>14765649

Don't need a psychologist to tell you gambling is a common human addictive tendency. You could have asked Takes-Your-Money over at the Injun shack about that.

>>14765656

You don't need a psychologist, but you can hire one to help you maximize the fleecing potential of your skinner box. It's beyond fucking scummy.

>>14764069

He looks like a James Bond villain there.

>>14764167

And then subsequently decides having Anita Sarkeesian as a consultant is a good idea for the sequel.

>>14764283

I endorse this, start in mud countries though, it would be good for the environment.

>>14764283

This.

Killing EA's owners AND their customers as a start.

>>14763750

must resist urge to rub hands

>Fun, Fair

Nothing says fun and fair like someone winning because they bought the better team

>>14763750

>>14763828

>“We’re always thinking about our players wallets."

Fixed.

>“Many of [the regulators] we’ve been working with for a long time, and they have evaluated and established that programs like FIFA Ultimate Team are not gambling.”

Because casino's actually give a damn about people with gambling addictions (and will prevent them from entering if they keep returning) because with casino's money can be gain/loss for both parties. Cue joke, it's only a gambling problem if you're losing.

With gaming no one takes any form of this money throwing gaming addiction seriously (if they were trashy F2P whale hunting games would be banned) and the money transfer is one way, a player can't win money back. Nor do you have to travel to a casino, just walk to your living room and just start emptying your credit card balance.

>>14766452

Not good gameplay content I tell ya hwat

>>14766947

>looks

It's obviously him without a tan/mutt skin.

Now whether or not it was deliberate or the nongame's devs showing their hate for the demon in charge of the company remains an open question.

>>14767012

They probably upped the bitrate as much as they could for MUH QUALITY but then killed it by having shitty quality source material to begin with after destroying it in the editing proccess, most movies do it today because nobody in hollywood knows what they're doing from acting to encoding.

Or the movies are long as fuck, I didn't bother watching that garbage after finding out it was garbage to know.

>>14767012

>thinking anyone gives a fuck about data compression and using resources efficiently

Daily reminder that you will live to see games that take up 1TB each

>>14766950

>>14766947

I think it's more just a very typical look for the highly positioned business types. They all have that same kind of look about them, not counting the suit because that's a given in any business setting.

>>14767024

>Hardware storage gets bigger and cheaper

>Internet connections don't

No company in their right mind would make the average normalfag download something for effectively an entire month or more

Can't blame them, EA would be fucked if they couldn't actually sell lootboxes. Hell, imagine all the shit multiplayer games that would die if there was no more lootboxes to scam idiots.

>>14767042

I wish the Armenian holocaust happened so this piece of shit wasn't around us.

>>14767042

The difference is that one is easy good PR for them that doesn't really affect the end user in ways most people would notice, and the other is a strict hardware limitation that would basically destroy any kind of business incentive, for any audience other than the tiny niche of people with insane connections or devoted fans with the patience of a saint

>>14767030

Isn't already hours long for some consolefags to download updates? I would say normalfags are already getting used to long "updates" that are bigger then whatever is on the disk they bought.

Translation is blatantly ((("we are above the law")))

>>14767067

>implying normalfags wouldn't bend over and take it like the good goyim they are

Sure they might bitch and moan some but you know as well as I do that most people just bow their heads and accept getting fucked up the shitpipe. There are no heroes left in man.

>>14767078

Hours and weeks are pretty hugely different amounts of time when waiting to use something you bought

>>14767101

People are pretty reliable for complaining when shit personally inconveniences them to a large degree

>>14767111

Whining until you get your way only works when leftists do it, and even then only because it serves an (((ulterior motive))).

>>14767139

This thread exists because people whined so much about battlefront 2 that they got microtransactions removed and some measure of government action taken around the world

EA being the biggest cunts in the universe here and thinking they can still get away with doing it in sports games is the exception that proves the rule

>>14763750

>And some people, policymakers, and regulators — including the gaming authorities in Belgium and Netherlands — that those card packs have are gambling.

>And some people, policymakers, and regulators that those card packs have are gambling.

Do they even proofread these turds before they shit them out?

>>14767146

I hope you are right. Every day I hear people complain bitterly about the people/institutions/etc. that abuse them and then go right back to them as if nothing happened.

>>14763877

I don't have any particular position on whether gambling itself should be regulated, but there are many places where it already is, and lootboxes are gambling. Lootboxes are gambling for the chance to win a service, that service being additional features of the game. I ask that the laws be consistently applied to all in regions where gambling is regulated, rather than making exceptions for vidya. Fucking over the profits of exploitative companies making shit vidya is a bonus.

>>14764074

Wait, how does UaB relate to that? Is it just that it's German?

>>14764077

>Announcing a report

>yeah,

An sudoku cuckchan.

>>14764273

When one only faults the dumb goy who fall for explotative practices and not exploiter as well, one is justifying things like false advertising.

>>14767086

Nah, it's more a case of "normalfags love our shit so much they will protest if their government bans it".

>>14764398

Bruh, you seen the mess that is World? i've never seen a monster hunter suffer a death of a playerbase in such a fast time, but what do you expect when you butcher the deep, long lasting content to cater to casualfags.

>>14763877

>don't blame the companies, it's not like they're actively pushing people to buy their horrible games and support the horrible developments that come with every new one of them :^))))

>t. 200 million dollar marketing budget for every single game

>>14767030

>>Internet connections don't

Point at burger and laugh.

Though when hardware storage's capacity goes up their speeds don't. For the last 10 years HDD's get about 10 times more capacity but only about 2 times more date transfer speed, loading speeds become a problem.

>>14767642

Is it the companies fault that people buy the brand instead of the product?

Gaming is not unique. Clothing is the same shit as are other areas. Bussiness doesn't care whether they have to spend 80% on marketing or development. It just happens to be that 80% on marketing is more effective because the market is apparently ruled by retards.

>>14767879

It's not the companies' fault that people are by and large idiots who go with what they know, no.

It is their fault however for capitalizing on that and putting vast sums of money into psychological research, advertising and manipulative social interactions and displays to exploit that tendency in order to increase their sales and keep people coming back for more like a battered spouse.

>>14767912

He is assuming that humans actually have real freedom of choice. Companies know this not to be true, and thus they are exploiting our weaknesses through psychological tricks that implants ideas about what we want and need. This is obviously more effective on less intelligent people, but it affects everyone to a degree. Some companies even use FMRI to scan the brains of focus groups and fine tune their commercials for the strongest response in the brain, is that not trying to manipulate and deceive?

>>14767912

The companies couldn't solo that, the customers helped them with it willingly. So it's partly their own fault. They were told decades ago already how it all works and they still give their data away helping to analyse and improve the manipulation. And when a company publicly screws them over they don't stop supporting them, they rage a bit and still buy. I have no sympathy for people who make no effort to protect their own ass.

>>14763750

>>14763828

Never change, EA, the embodiment of everything wrong with the video game industry.

>>14765123

You cannot make them, silly Billy. It's by their free will they infantilize themselves through government, and it must be by their free will they free themselves and accept their God given responsibilities.

>>14768456

Spoke like a true deformed kike.

"Don't do anything. It is their choice".

It is our will that matters, always. Never theirs.

>>14764549

the whole point is the payment of money for a randomised item is gambling.

Whilst time may equal money to your jewish brain, only money can actually be used by a company whereas time cannot. EA doesn't give a shit if you have so many hours playing a game, they only care if they get your money.

Whilst I hate the EU and everything they stand for I agree with them on the lootbox standpoint.

>>14764028

Gambling shouldn't be regulated.

>>14767047

>Armenian holocaust didn't happen

Hello, shariablue

>>14770851

Or maybe it's Imkikey posting here.

>>14770863

Same thing nowadays

>>14769098

I didn't say you couldn't do anything. Do you have an agenda to pursue, hidden beneath the non-issue of video game loot boxes? You have just as much of a choice as those who buy them do, and if you want your will to choose be respected you must respect theirs as well.

>>14763907

>Honestly there's nothing wrong with cosmetic only lootboxes

<I mean what's the worst that could happen?

<It's not like suits will cut cosmetic content that would normally be in the base

<A suit would never look over the shoulder of a character designer and say, "That outfit is too good to be the default. Let's make a worse one for the default and lock that behind $5.00 lootbox with a 0.2% chance having the outfit."

>>14763914

>brainlet

Kill youself cuckchan.

>>14767016

>a bunch of permavirgin neckbeards on an imageboard know more about encoding movies from posting endless amounts of webms than Hollywood does from it's years of experience

It sounded absurd until I realize that Hollywood churns out nothing but garbage now a days.

I wonder what movies we will remember the 2010s for.

>>14772012

>I wonder what movies we will remember the 2010s for.

It's gonna be the MCU. Normalfags eat that shit up.

>>14772012

>>14772022

It's gonna be the MCU. Normalfags eat that shit up, and it's highly iconic.

>>14772022

MCU is forgettable garbage. In fact the movies themselves are so forgettable people have trouble telling one MCU movie apart from another. About the only title in the franchise that had some spark and love put into it was the first Iron Man.

>>14772026

>highly iconic

You can stop embarrassing yourself any time.

>>14772029

>You can stop embarrassing yourself any time.

>Marvel characters aren't iconic

Stop deluding yourself.

>>14772036

>Marvel characters aren't iconic

The characters are, the movies aren't. Most people forget what happened in the movie by the time they're out of the cinema. They're bland garbage with the depth of a puddle.

>>14771472

Nice meme faggot, but can you really deny that companies deliberately market their shit to the lowest common denominator?

>>14771472

>t. mobileshit player

>>14771940

>A suit would never look over the shoulder of a character designer and say, "That outfit is too good to be the default. Let's make a worse one for the default and lock that behind $5.00 lootbox with a 0.2% chance having the outfit.

I find it hard that anyone outside of EA would be able to jew that hard. Also "whatif's" aren't an argument.

>>14763877

That's why execs and shareholders need to face jail time for their creation breaking laws. Let those fucks be responsible for their actions instead of hiding behind an entity which should never have been legally considered the same as humans.

WE WILL KIKE YOU TO THE LAST PENNY GOY

WE'LL HOLOCAUST YOUR WALLETS AS REPARATIONS

YOUR LAWS AND LITIGATIONS MEAN NOTHING TO US

IF THEY OUTLAW LOOTBOXES WE'LL SELL YOU LOOTBAGS, LOOTPOUCHES, LOOTBARRELS, LOOTPIÑATAS, etc. etc. ad infinitum, TRYING EVERY LOOPHOLE UNTIL AT LAST PART OF THE LAW GIVES WAY BEFORE OUR FEET

*manic laughing and hand rubbing*

>>14772642

Killed.

Not jailed.

>>14770618

>only money can actually be used by a company whereas time cannot

poor players nolivingtheir time in the game create value for the company by providing content for the paying customers. They are thereby directly working in a virtual space to the companies benefit.

>>14772592

>Nod an arguebend

What if the gov't implements regulations on lootboxes that are overreaching and fuck with vidya? Since that's not an arguement, I guess gov't regulation on vidya must be a good thing regardless of the unintended consequences, right? :^)

>>14775257

Please enlighten me on how government regulation of lootboxs isn't a good thing. There will be less jewwery to go around if shit companies aren't able to make huge profits on RNG pixels after it becomes regulated. Hopefully it'll hit EA hard and prevent them from doing them all together.

>>14776271

>regulation

Just call them protections. The government is protecting us from EA.

>>14776271

Not the same anon. Generally, it is better that government involvement in the affairs of private company is limited. Usually bigger gov influence is usually in line with leftism (welfare, censorship, etc.) while the right is opposite, the power swings towards private sector but with government holding certain vital authorities to make sure they are kept in line proper to avert ultra-capitalism dystopia like selling license for breathing or existing within company grounds or something.

The point here is that it is bad now that kikes and normalfags get involved in vidya industries, throw the government into the game design, in future we might have government "regulating" game design like in worst korea (hence the shovelware garbage MMOs).

But in EA case. I agree that it is proper exercise of government power from the predatory business practice done by EA as it dangerously encroaches the realm of gambling and setting up addiction.

>>14776271

The moment the tards stop paying for lootboxes is the moment they need someone else to pay for the game,who is left? It's you. If you ain't buying lootboxes and advocating against them, you are advocating to pay more yourself longterm.

And thiis increase can happen quite roundabout too. Token systems for example likewise fleece the paying customer by artifical demand. They create more grind and thus give incentitive to pay someone else to do the virtual job. In the end you either pay more time , more money or fall behind. Do you prefer this to someone wasting money on lootboxes for skins?

>>14776387

*someone else

>>14776376

>while the right is opposite

every authoritarian government in history would like to have a word with you. saying the right wing means less governance is like saying communism is a great idea. it never works out like planned for both

>>14776376

>Generally, it is better that government involvement in the affairs of private company is limited.

Neoclassical economics starts from a position of a state not existing and ends with a recommendation for not intervening. It is utterly circular reasoning and refuses to acknowledge the state's role in creating the conditions for markets to exist in the first place. Stop trusting them, they don't deserve it.

>>14776387

>who is left? It's you

Reminder that you never really have to give these companies money. In that mind though, if the lootboxes go away and they finally make a good game for once, then maybe it's fine to give them money for doing it right.

Games have been fine and sold well without lootboxes in the past- there isn't a reason why that should be changed now. Lootboxes are just greed most of the time. Also grind games are shit and would not even think about playing them in the first place.

>>14776376

>in future we might have government "regulating" game design like in worst korea

We have enough autists on /v/ that will prevent that from happening. At least I hope they can do it eventually

>>14776387

Simply solved by not playing those games and not spending any money on games at all and pirating everything until one can't do it anymore and spending the rest of his gaming days playing older games.

Simple and efficient.

>>14776394

It still diminishes the power of those that want to control us, thus making it the best choice.

>>14776376

See "not playing the new games and spend the rest of life playing good, older, games" above.

why does he look like a supervillain from a cartoon?

>>14763937

Go fuck yourself, you pathetic piece of human shit.

Lootboxes help black people in the ghetto make cash money. Stop the hate.

>>14766547

>Because casino's actually give a damn about people with gambling addictions (and will prevent them from entering if they keep returning)

HAHAHAHA VEGAS ANON HERE YOU'RE RETARDED

Addicts can only voluntarily ban themselves from Casinos

>>14770583

It looks ridiculous, but it's not meant for people that engage their brains. It's meant for the brain dead zombies that have developed compulsive gambling habits. And, quite frankly regardless of what you think, the shit works. Otherwise the media, who regularly employs sensationalist tactics, would be broke as fuck and not even a fraction of relevant in controlling and manipulating information.

>helped the company grow year-over-year to $1.25 billion during its last quarter even without releasing a major new game

who the fuck buys lootboxes. for what game. how is this even possible. you pay to play less of the game. you pay for a chance of getting a meaningless skin. how can you be so retarded.

>>14763750

Everyone should expect EA to always take the "more money" approach, they have no soul. What we shouldn't tolerate is the ESRB shuffling their feet on the issue and letting grandstanding politicians use it as a political platform. They should just simply tell everyone that the lootbox business model will be taken into account in classification and that the politicians can go back to nigger wrangling for votes.

>>14777611

>who the fuck buys lootboxes

people with gambling addictions clearly. i don't understand why people are being so hush about this

>>14777240

some people are required to do that by court order because their lives are so fucked up.

>>14776931

Since when did we become saints here sacrificing ourself for others wellbeing? Fuck them all. If they get exploited good. These idiots are the reason for the state of the whole market. The least thing they can do is finance it for all of us.

>>14777793

Who cares about your 10€ when they would have to take 30€ to make it profitable. Why do you think did f2p+cashshop became so popular? If the subcription model was more profitable everyone would still run it. The problem is the majority ain't willing to pay the necessary price. Same reason why dlc's became necessary to fleece people with more money. Development budgets for AAA increased sharply and if games where sold honestly they would have to ask 80€+ from you but you ain't willing to pay that much. That's why they have to continue to sell a base product at 40-59€ and then use dlc crap to get the people with more money fleeced. And don't get into "lower the budget then" graphic whoring and other crap that adds nothing to gameplay is directly demanded by the customers. People are stupid and if they act retarded it's only just that they pay for it.

>>14778058

Did you first

>lurk for a few months

>ask your questions in the designated QTDDTOT thread

If the answer to either of these is no, you're a retard and deserve the ban.

>>14778211

There's a difference between "don't question me just listen to what I say without requiring proof" and "read this book that explains it, there's too much intricacy to explain it in an imageboard post and the wall of text would make you tl;dr anyway", yeah. Well spotted.

>>14764297

Most people who buy EA products are third world niggers anyway so it isn't that weird of a connection to make.

>>14778079

>Development budgets for AAA increased sharply and if games where sold honestly they would have to ask 80€+ from you

I often hear this is bullshit from apologists with no real sources.

>>14778349

Was your grandpa also gassed 6 million times?

>>14778329

Just look at wikipedia. They list development costs. Even if you remove marketing to shill the game which makes over 60% of the total the common AAA still have today 50m+ budgets purely for development costs. What do you think did they pay in win98 times? It wasn't even 1/10 of it. The only reason this works at all is in first place that the customerbase grew alongside the cost.

thing is EA is putting a lot of eggs in just few baskets,

these bets rarely ever payed off

>>14767967

>I have no sympathy for people who make no effort to protect their own ass.

I don't either, but taking my anger out on dumbass who will never learn and also that fuck me over at the same time solves nothing.

>>14778414

This is bullshit and you know it. They outsource cause it's cheaper. If you sit in US or EU your local labour costs 10x more than hiring indians/chinese. What you pay for in is software quality and you know that you lose quality but the lower cost is valued higher. Sometimes that creates a trainwreck but overall it works. If it wouldn't be profitable nobody would do it. Also gamedev is the worst job. Faggots get squeezed on overtime and poor pay regularly because there are too many retards who want to be game designers. Part of the reason also why we have so many retard devs now - anyone with a brain stays away from the game industry.

>>14778414

>writing code on a monitor

Where else would you write it? Your faggot tablet?

>sitting on his ass all day

Lots of places have standing desks now. But how is that even relevant?

>>14778434

i was going to make a really detailed post talking about outsourcing

around mid ps3 360 game development AAA Devs found out it was MUCH cheaper to farm out 95% of the art asset creation to India and have a really small team of like 5 to 10 people "clean up" the assets they get from India in house.

I think the first big game to do it was assassins creed, it may have been AC2.

>>14778414

This.

And it must start by killing current devs.

They probably hang all those golden turd awards up in a glass cabinet, they are so proud of their corruption.

>>14763907

If something "cosmetic" is in the original download or the physical disc that you fucking paid $60 for then no its not fucking all right. Not fucking all right at all. Its just stealth on disc dlc.

>>14778969

So wait a second. Anthony Burch was actually shitting on EA when he wrote Borderlands 2?

>>14779001

No, Burch didn't write any of Jack's lines nor does he have anything to do with the visual designs in the game. In fact he hated Jack because he was written by other people and so much more well received than any of his dribble.

>>14779001

No. It's just a generation of propaganda that's turned the well-dressed, well-groomed white guy into the face of evil. He looks like every generic villain.

>>14779014

>dribble

The word is 'drivel' you dumb nigger.

>>14779014

To my understanding the voice actor thought his lines were shit and just starting making up lines for Jack on the spot.

>>14778725

pointing to this talk to show im not talking out of my ass. AAA games outsource their goddamn concept art now