/v/ - Video Games

>>14756879

It depends on what are you looking for

Every game has its own merits and problems

Playing the GB/GBC/GBA games is worth only for the nostalgia value or for the fact they are easier to emulate

>>14756899

>Emerald is only good for nostalgia

Nice bait, you got me.

>>14756899

I sort of enjoyed X & Y with the system of the wonder trading. I ended up getting like 600 in my dex…. is moon an improvement? Is it a waste of time to try and catch em all? or is moon a fun playthrough? do a lot of people play it still?

>>14756920

Oh and I really enjoyed omega alpha ruby or whatever

Technically hg/ss is the last mainline game where the devs gave a shit, so unless there's something exclusive to later games you really like stick with that.

>>14756920

>>14756921

X/Y and OR/AS were both fucking terrible, but if you somehow liked those then you'd probably like US/UM even more since they're a step up.

Apparently post-exodus 4chan made a Pokemon total conversion. It appropriates tons and tons of 8chan jokes, of course.

Genwun only for nostalgia, or to check out how the series started. FRLG improved everything about it and is very much playable. G / S / C - good games but again, HG / SS improved almost everything. Emerald is great. D / P is average, though it adds the long-needed physical / special split, but the actual game isn't very good. B / W is ok I guess…I didn't play anything after. Series peak is Emerald and HG / SS.

>>14756955

>D / P is average, though it adds the long-needed physical / special split, but the actual game isn't very good.

Guess how I know you're retarded?

>>14756920

I didn't like Pokemon Y, my enthusiasm petered out for it midway through, but I enjoyed Moon a lot more. You already have the game; if you like Pokemon, just play it.

My personal favorites are Gold/Silver and Black/White.

>>14756879

Gen 4

The peak of the franchise was HGSS to B2W2, although it had flashes of brilliance before in games like Emerald.

>>14756960

No, DPPt is pretty much the worst in the franchise until XY came out. The only reason people liked the early Gen 4 games is because it was the first time you could play with your internet friends because you don't have any friends in real life. I don't have that problem because I don't have any friends at all, so I can see it for the awful shit it actually is.

>>14756932

>>14756964

I think I just enjoyed the dex presentation and getting free pokemon in wonder trades….ill give moon a go.

my heartgold that i bought it a fake. otherwise i could buy silver, gold or crystal on the virutal console

>>14756960

Diamond and Pearl had some noticeably bad technical issues like sluggishness that Platinum helped rectify, to the point where even moreso than normal, it could be argued that the third entry is the way to best experience that region. Though of course, there's debate over whether Sinnoh as a whole was shit compared to other regions.

heartgold/soullsilver

>>14757119

A part of me wishes they'd at least have done something with the leveling curve for Johto. I mean, it's nice that it leaves the region a bit unlinear after Ecruteak as to where you go west or east first, and thus the level spread accommodates that so one path doesn't necessarily feel easier or harder, but it makes leveling up something new pre-Elite Four feel like a slog between wild Pokemon levels being pretty low compared to trainers (even the higher level stuff in Victory Road don't give out that much exp if memory serves), and only some trainers being fightable in rematches through the Pokegear (no VS Seeker). Which isn't to say HGSS aren't still really good as both remakes and games, just that I wonder if there's a better way it could have been handled.

>>14757123

>Gamefreak pretty much stopped doing compiled releases after Platinum so there is no Crystal remake, just Heart Gold and Soul Silver.

There was no Yellow remake prior either; I think it's been an intentional choice when it's come to the remakes since they started them.

>>14757119

Second gen is outdated as fuck now that HG/SS is released. Platinum, HG/SS and BW2 are the holy trinity of Pokemon games.

>>14757198

You do have a point about gb/gbc aesthetic, the different sprite sizes, in particular one tree per tile instead of one tree over multiple tiles, made the maps appear to have a much larger scale than the modern version.

Again, purely aesthetic, but it is something that the newer iterations don't have. You might also add that the style of the sprites are pretty different.

>>14756879

>Is pokemon only good for old nostalgia

Pokemon is a good game but there's like 50 versions of the same game by now, you can only enjoy it so much after having beaten one or two of them.

Pearl is my favourite

I'm probably the only one

Obviously the roguelikes are the best.

>>14757723

Explorers of sky, was best of these.

Crystal.

>>14756908

>pokemon go

>shilling for literal surveillance software with a pokemon skin

You're dumb as fuck.

Don't play adventures red.

>>14756936

Okay, hold up, what the fuck is that thing in the upper left corner?

Give the following a try Storm Silver and Blaze Black 2. They're rom hacks of the best pokemon games that make the game more challenging and make every pokemon available for capture.

>>14757907

shit tier troll

Sun and Moon weren't even completed when Gamefreak shat them out. A year later they tossed out the actual version of Sun and Moon we should have gotten, but the thing is, they're still terrible games. I think you can tell at this point Gamefreak are starting, or have started to feel Pokemon fatigue. They get to make a new game once every so often, but they're still forced to make Pokemon on a yearly or bi-yearly basis. That's why the games lack any soul now. It's exemplified well enough in the Gen 3 remakes with how bad everything looks and feels. No one there cares about Pokemon anymore. I have no hope for Pokemon Switch.

>>14758834

Now it's so ridiculous with the mega evolutions and now they have mega 2.0 evolutions that have a different name. Its ridiculous

>>14758022

>>14758186

Stay mad fullderp turboautists

The Best in the franchise:

Crystal

Emerald

FR/LG

Platinum

HG/SS

B2/W2

Has their own merits but are generally out-shined by other games

R/B

Yellow

G/S

B/W

Flawed but playable;

R/S

D/P

OR/AS

Has no redeeming qualities that can't be provided by outside means;

X/Y

S/M

US/UM

The mainline games aren't worth playing post gen 5 unless you heavily rely on romhacks.

Will the new game on the Switch be a new mainline game or a spin-off like Coliseum? Sun and Moon showed me that GF want the mainline games to be filled with handholding and tutorials up the ass from here on out.

Red and Blue. And that's not because they're necessarily good games. It's just that the series took everything bad about the previous game and amplified it with each generation.

Pokemon Black/White is still fucking great. When I first played it, it legit felt like a new experience. All the pokemon you saw were brand new gen 5 pokemon. Pokemon from previous gens weren't available until postgame/endgame, so it kinda felt like the original Red/Blue GameBoy games in that you kept seeing nothing but new pokemon all the time. Nothing rehashed. It also has the most morally gray villain team overall (their main goal isn't exactly sinister. they just wanna liberate all pokemon from their forced slavery) and N is a misunderstood but great antagonist as well. Bianca and Cheren are much more well-written than the friends in Pokemon X/Y and other games are. And the "unwavoring emotion" song is a great (if slightly depressing) song.

Pokemon games were getting stale for me before Black/White came out (gens 2, 3, and 4 felt like rethreads on gen 1), but then these gen 5 games had enough new things to keep it fresh and interesting again, it reinvigorated my love for the series all over again.

Smugleaf Snivy is also my favorite starter ever.

>>14758936

I think its old fans autism and variety in fapbait.

>>14758925

I hope it will be spin-off, but it probably will be mainline.

The best Pokemon game is Colosseum, but my favorite are G/S/C (Crystal is objectively better, but I'm partial to Silver for nostalgic reasons). G/S/C is well-developed graphically without losing the spirit of Gen I (R/S/E and onward horribly homogenized the art style, stripping it of all character). It features a lot of really vital quality of life improvements over Gen I, has a lot more character to its primary region (having a much more blatantly Japanese theme), and stays simplified enough to leave a lot to the imagination. The new Pokemon are blended in seamlessly with the prior Pokemon instead of replacing them. The rival is more compelling than any other than perhaps Blue. The only really weak point I think is that Gold is too blatant of a rehash of Red, but that almost contributes to the feeling you get when you face Red on Mt. Silver.

>>14756899

its impressive how shit one post can be

>>14757723

>>14757742

these, easily and by far. No other pokemon game can even come close to competing with the PMD series, specifically explorers. it's easily a masterpiece and puts every mainline game to shame

>>14758887

>have mega 2.0 evolutions that have a different name.

explain

>>14759089

I think he meant Ultra Beasts.

Power curve in newest gen got fucking retarded between pokemon species went completely insane, even including Mega Rayquaza from gen 6.

Platinum, HGSS, and BW2 are objectively the best.

>>14757023

DP were bad, but Platinum is fantastic.

>>14756932

>>14756964

>>14757029

>>14758910

I haven't played ORAS or gen 7 att all, but XY is fine. It's not perfect, but iit's not bad: It does a lot of things right: there's a fuck ton of quality of life improvements, a lot of neat features and touches, there's a lot of pokemon variety, and while team flare is siilly, Lysandre himself is one of the more engaging and interesting villains in the series.

People are just assmad at it because it didn't have a battle frontier and how easy it is: Both of those are valid complaints, but don't outwiegh everything else.

>>14758910

Crystal shouldn't be in best tier, It's entirely outshined by HGSS unless you are particularly nostalgic for the original sprites/music, it should be in outshined tier, aloong with R/S: Both ORAS, from what I understand, and Emerald are objective improvements over it.

>>14759129

Didn't ORAS have botched level curves for trainers?

>>14759129

>>14759158

ORAS had a lot of problems. It was definitely a worse game than R/S, I enjoyed it with one of the bigger 'difficulty' hacks since it also added a lot of fun things to the hack that weren't really possible in the earlier games, but even then I think I had more fun with vanilla R/S than with difficulty hack OR/AS.

The only really meaningful point is 'extra features' which are really just different features since they cut out a lot of other stuff in addition to making the game absoultely trivial. X/Y also had a big issue of being afraid to put the player far away from safety for too long. Consider the dungeons like the tunnel from cerulean city to viridian city, or the long ass route from mauville city to fallarbor town. X/Y doesn't have anything even approaching this and never takes you out of safety for more than a couple of minutes, usually along simple routes with almost no puzzles and just a single HM check. It's almost like comparing a guided tour to going out on an adventure.

Of course, I'm not making an in-depth analysis here, so I'm probably making mistakes and bad assumptions.

>>14759228

It makes sense.

However, I still need to try it to know more about it myself.

I hope it will work in Citra.

>>14759205

>I do know from looking into it that enemy trainers have about the same amount of pokemon at the same sorts of levels at least.

I see.

>>14756932

OR/AS has probably the best feature I've seen in any game: It actually tells you when you've caught every pokemon available in a given area. No more having to play with the fucking Wiki open.

Alola is the best region prove me wrong

>>14759443

I hope you didn't meant one in Gen 2.

That was almost insulting.

>>14759463

>Newest region

>Best

No.

>>14759443

>>14759508

Oh sorry, cerulean to lavender town, where flash was needed to progress through easily, 'Rock Cave' I think it was. Was there even a tunnel from cerulean to Viridian? I only remember mt. moon to Pewter city and the bicycle path south to Vermillion.

Thinking a bit further on it and actually review the map it wasn't that much, but still a lot more than anything I remember from x/y or su/mo.

Again could be due to bias, but I really can't think of any large caves or long routes in gen 6 or 7, maybe the coast route that had you ride on a rhydon at one point in x/y?

>>14759508

Why? I don't understand why do you hate it

>>14759602

I can't hate or like something that I didn't play.

>>14756879

> Is pokemon only good for old nostalgia playing and runs? gen I and II?

Yes only Gens 1 and 2 were good. Romhacks may be fun to as long as they are in the old style and avoid putting too many shitmons. Gen 3 is maybe good but only since it visually looks close to the original two gens. Only good thing about later games is the minor game tweaks over the years that are all years late and should have been implemented long ago even since the second gen games.

>>14759988

ORAS was good, it's SM they fucked up.

>>14760106

ORAS is a horrible, slow mess. How the fuck they can keep making the games even slower is just baffling to me. Even if you turn off animations it's just fucking molasses. And then there's that one stupid bitch they added that goes around ruining everything and the game acts like she's in the right. You're full of shit, ORAS is trash.

>>14759988

>Gen 5

<Good

<Story good on Pokemon mainline standards

<12+ Legends

>Gen 6

<Mega Evolutions

<Rivals being complete faggots

>Gen 7

<Z-moves

<Ultra Beasts

<Handholding to the point it should be called dickholding instead.

There were other things, but I don't exactly know what.

>>14760120

>idiot doesn't know how to move fast

It's incredibly easy to see that you're the one full of shit since I can tell you haven't actually played it.

skip moon and play ultra moon

unless you think you'll want to replay moon/unless you're a buyfag, pretty much everything is the same or better in USUM

overall the DS games are the best gamefreak made, skipping DP and starting with Platinum and just playing the main releases in release order is the best way to play them

with the 3DS Gamefreak got kind of lazy, but they're still worth checking out especially USUM

also GBA and earlier probably aren't worth checking out besides maybe the originals/FRLG just because everything from that era has a newer, better remake

inb4 but muh frontier

>>14758910

>ORAS

>Playable

>USUM

>Not alright

The only bad thing about USUM is the fucking nonstop cutscenes, but ORAS might be even worse on that front if you consider how few the original RSE had in comparison. ORAS's only saving grace is the great secret bases.

>>14759988

Gen VII is a never-ending tutorial. You are never, not once, allowed to go out on your own for more than 5 minutes in a 20 hour game.

>>14760120

ORAS and SM were both Ohmori. They are both Ohmori flavored fuck-ups.

USUM was a salvage attempt by a freshman battle director (Iwao), protege to the OG battle director and director of Emerald and HGSS (Morimoto)

Morimoto has been with Pokemon since the start and he was responsible for directing improvement of the battle system, the only thing that consistently got better over the years. Iwao was battle director for SM and the SM battle system had some noteworthy improvements over previous iterations.

If Masuda and Ohmori both died in a car accident I would have hope that Pokemon could become good again.

>>14760122

all of these except the rivals is just complaining about GF adding content

and regarding rivals ORAS is faithful to the originals until wally uncucks himself

special fairy moves for dedenne never ever

>>14760239

Iwao is my kind of guy, he added a lot of extra side content during the main game to help flesh out the world. Like, there's two side quests where you get nothing out of them but seeing Pokemon doing what they say they do in their Pokedex entries. Granted, one is literally just a sparkle in the water, but I blame the fact that Game Freak has no idea what they're doing. I appreciate the attempt. That alongside a crappy Battle Factory is enough for me to be optimistic, unlike with Ohmori's attempt in ORAS.

>>14760329

Why exactly are the remakes of Ruby and Sapphire bad?

>>14760355

Barely anything they added was good, they balanced the game to be even easier than before, and kind of missed the point of the original games. People complain about the lack of Battle Frontier but that wasn't part of RS to begin with, but it does show that they aren't even interested in trying.

>>14760370

>they balanced the game to be easier

through an item you can turn off, that's no fatal flaw by any means

>>14760419

I thought they generally reduced levels and Pokemon count as well? Granted that could be justified as removing tedium, but I'm not sure I agree.

>>14760329

>everything new is shit, the chart

>>14760075

See this is the retarded shit I don't understand: You say "only gen 1 and 2 are good" but then concede that the subsequent games did make improvements. So what the fuck makes subsequent gens bad, then?

>>14760452

>I thought they generally reduced levels and Pokemon count as well?

As far as I know, nope.

Only the spin-offs are good.

New Pokemon ranger never fucking ever.

>>14760419

Anon, they just give you Latios halfway through the game. The difficulty – which was never hard in the first place – is completely gone.

>>14760122

Gen 7 is insulting to play, even if someone is just a kid. Pokemon isn't so complex that it requires so many tutorials.

>>14760596

Checking into it, the early routes are easier, while the later routes are a level or two higher, probably to compensate for Exp All if I had to guess.

>>14760419

>j-j-just turn EXP Share off! That magically makes everything harder!

Turning EXP share off does nothing and you know it. The game is piss easy with and without the thing.

>>14760690

I didn't say turn EXP Share off, I said the game designers tried to fix the problems it caused by bumping up trainer Pokemon a few levels. It's such a minor change that it wouldn't help or hurt either way, not sure why they bothered. Put simply they're retarded.

>>14760734

>>14760690

>>14760452

>>14760419

>>14760370

>>14760355

So how exactly is it easier since as >>14760659 notes overall it evens out?

>>14760355

Too much water

>>14760173

>inb4 but muh frontier

The lack of content is a legitimate mark against it, I'm not sure what you're implying here.

>>14763682

If you read the ID's you'd know like half of them are me, attempting to figure out exactly what the main difference is. What makes the game easier are more options. Megas, EXP all, reusable TMs, new moves, and new Pokemon in the late game are new options, but you've always had the option to use switch instead of set, use strong Pokemon and moves, or use legionaries if you feel like it. Basically Pokemon games are becoming easier because there's just so much shit they can barely balance a new game around it, let alone a remake. Why do you think they were so fucking strict in the FRLG remakes? Aside from the fact that Masuda directed them and he never wants you to have fun. Maybe that's why I kind of like Black and White so much, they're balanced around the 150-some Pokemon in that game and the fact that you can use TMs forever.

>>14760355

It has gen six cancer and all the symptoms that brings.

>>14760596

So, X and Y are your first games I see.

>>14764406

>T-THERE'S NO WAY ANYBODY DISAGREES WITH ME, H-HE MUST BE A NEWFAG

I've been playing the games since R/B, m8. I still have my oldass plastic tub full of the small plastic figures and the golden token card things from burger king as their kids meal tie in for the first movie and everything.

Platinum > Emerald XY > R/S > C >> GS = FRLG > RBY, IMO. I never played HGSS or Gen 5 but know enough about them to place them as being up there with Platinum and Emerald, especially since GSC are only held back from being way higher on my list due to their age.

I think half the reason people shit on XY is that people are undervaluing the importance of incremental improvements, and aren't counting liimitations and flaws brought on by older gen's age against them: That's a problem the video game industry has in general, people felliate old games with super blatent visual, audio, design, and gameplay issues due to limitatons at the time just because they were "Revolutionary for their time" even though that time was decades ago and their modern counterparts fiix or improve on all those issues.

>>14760355

see >>14757123

>>14759205

Does Sage have a western aesthetic going on? I really like the character designs.

>>14764778

> Necrozma a fixed kyurem

too bad the monster design is ass, i like Necrozma conceptually.

>>14764885

>US/UM would've been much better if they had pulled a BW2 and made it a new story that takes place a couple years later in the same setting.

I completely agree, I actually thought that would be the case when I first heard of USUM.

>>14764812

Yeah, I just like the mechanics behind how Necrozma works, there are 4 problems with Kyurem that Necrozma didn't fall into the same trap with.

>only 1 fused kyurem per save file, you have to unfuse white if you want to use black

>black kyurem is clearly inferior to white kyurem

>the true form will probably be forever inaccessible

>its signature moves aren't very good

>>14765359

>>14764885

Am I the only one who disliikes the idea of the enhanced version of a given set of games having a different story? Call it selfish or jewish if you want, but I like the simplicity of knowing there's a single third version I can buy that's thte definitive version of the game with no differences from the original pair that's not an objective improvement.

Like, I didn't play Gen 5 or Gen 7, but if I did, i'd be forced to buy both one of BW and SM, and one of BW2 and USM

>>14765922

Like Emerald and Platinum?

Wherever I am I must also shill

https://github.com/TheFakeMateo/RedPlusPlus

>>14765972

do I know this isn't a worm?

>>14765991

idk, you can Google prepatched roms and shit. Or inspect the code.

>>14765993

Oy vey.

>>14765993

>>14766001

I left the project before that happened: I was, however, still in our off topic chats where we talk about vidya and anime and shit, which iis where the majority of it went down, so I can give you my insight there: tl;dr the OneAngryGamer article is just as bad as a kotaku/polygon hitpiece:

To begin with, the shitstorm in question wasn't a project wide fisaco, it was really between 3, maybe 4 specific people: The person who got kicked (Chao), Carson, and Smokey. There's no political consensus between the entire team/group, but Chao did happen to be the most right leaning person, and Smokey and Carson are among the more left leaning people. Essentially, Chao said a few dumb things during some of our disscusions about politics (I don't remember the specifics of what he said, but I can at least tell you that I, despite being very much anti SJWism and such, still thought he was being stupid), and Carson and Smokey were shitting on him over it: That itself wouldn't be a problem: All of us are anons from way back when the project started on halfchan, so us calling each other retards and fags (which, again, should tell you the "sage is filled with SJW's" thing is BS) is normal. What went over the line, IMO, is that Carson and Smokeey would continue to shit on him and give him crap even after the specific discussions ended.

I called both of them out on this and told them to knock it off multiple times, but they wouldn't. Making rules to where shitposting and insulting/bitching at people nonstop wasn't allowed were considered, but as you can imagine if you wanted to make a "no bullying rule" in a chat with a bunch of anons, that never really went anywhere.

The article states his ideas for actual development were getting shat on due to all of this: Beyond the fact that only 2 other people were really participating in this, that's BS because, as far as I have been able to find (again, I was out of actual development prior to this happening), nobody ever brought the drama into on topic chats: Recall before how I said in my initial tl;dr of Sage in >>14759205 that one of it's strengths is how autistically it sticks to the tone of the GF games: Nobody in the project ever allowed their personal opinions or politics to seep into development: We outright removed cigars from certain character's designs solely because we felt GF wouldn't include explicit tobacco references, etc. I've found zero evidence that chao's submissions or content was ever given crap for anything other then it's actual quality (which was never super great: He did decent work, but it was often middling or on the iffier side) and I find it hard to believe that that would happen.

Following up on that, when Chao WAS kicked, it was only from the plot chat, and only because he had been relaying incorrect information repeatedly to other areas of the project, causing issues. After that, he blew up, started to insult and bitch at people in development chats (something he conveniently left out of the oneangrygamer article, which only shows screenshots of posts people made at him in response, not the equally bad posts he made to instigate them) accusing them of targeting him over politics: He got kicked as a result of that. Recall before how I said that the fisaco stayed in off topic to begin with, and nobody, as far as I know, brought shit into on topic: If they had, they would have been banned: Chao got kicked from the project as a whole because he DID bring the drama that previously stayed in off topic into development chats, disrupting actual game production: Carson and Smokey (both of whom are shat on for being disruptive way more then chao ever was, we litteerally have a fucking pile of shit emote titled :smokey:) would have been kicked if they did it too.

Do I think what happened to chao is fair? No: he was being treated like shit in off topic, and that fed into this paranoia of his that his ideas in actual project development were being shut down, which led to a mental breakdown where he flipped out in off topic. But ultimately, Chao is the one who brought shit into on topic in a giant fit and spergeed out there, and disrupted development: Nobody else did. He himself got into this mental trap of seeing everybody else out to get him even though I and other people attempted to step in, give him advice, and resolve this whole thing: he always refused it and always insisted that he was doomed to get kicked over his political opinions even though nobody but those 2 people gave a shit: There's no helping somebody who is so deep in their own paranoia and self pity that they refused to be helped.

It sucks and I feel bad for him, but it's not this "SJW's infest sage and kick out dissenting opinions" like the articlee implies: It was a single spat between 3 people that reached a boiling point.

I'm happy to answer further questions.

>>14766134

Why hasn't gamefreak hired you yet?

>>14757189

>platinum

>gen IV anything

>>14766949

It could be a sincere question, you Sage is one of the better looking fangames out there. If after Sage is completed, they got somebody who could actually code (is the guy who is working on Pokemon Essentials any good at that), got the pixel artists and character designers together, and made a new game pitch to TPC, I bet they could make a decent Sonic Mania like side game. Like an inversion of Colosseum or Gale of Darkness, a 2D game now that 3D is standard. Heck, might as well be an Orre game, Arizona is closer to Mesoamerica than not (it's not that close but I'm reaching anyway). No new Pokemon of course, but like the GC games give bonuses like special moves or hidden abilities. Since I'm in happy fantasy land, since I bet Iwao's not doing shit otherwise I'd like him as director, he could expand a lot on the Orre story while not sacrificing gameplay, I think.

>>14766949

You have skilled. There is no joke. Sorry you think so lowly of yourself you can't see yourself in their offices.

>>14767106

I am aware the Essentials guy is working with the Sage team, I just wonder if his skills are transferable to anything other than whatever weird scripting RPG Maker uses. As for Nintendo allowing it, I feel like depending on how the Switch game is and the reception to it, The Pokemon Company could possibly need some goodwill among fans, and they probably have a big say in marketing. You might have a better chance if you were Japanese though, actually. As for spin offs, I've got an idea that would be interesting and weird, but I've talked about it before and it doesn't matter really..

https://play.pokemonshowdown.com/battle-gen7ou-745427855

>>14756879

Maybe snap? There has never been a pokemon game worth playing.

>>14770412

>Gen 6+ is "muh 3d models" that's it, all the non retard aid changes you experience in gameplay have been done in the previous gens.

You are either shitposting, have never played tthem, or are retarded. There's a ton of notable quality of life changes and major improvements beyond just the switch to 3d in XY. Actually, I just fucking noticed you said "Gen 6+", so you also mean ORAS and SM/USM, which makesyou even more retardeed.

Off the top of my head, here's the positive changes they make

>Ability to manually respec EV and IV's via super/hyper training

>Rebalancing some pokemon's stats

>Significant overhauls and improvements to online functionality with the PSS, wonder trade, etc

>Amie/Refresh

>In ORAS, the Dexnav

>character customiization

>the removal of HM's

Those are all fairly major, very useful quality of life features, and that's not even gettiing into the minor shit orr stuff i'm just not thinking of at the moment, and that's way more then the amount of major quality of life functionality or major features yu see betwen gen 1 and gen 6

>>14773245

The physical special split is the single most notable mechanic change in the entire series, so yeah, it does?

Don't see how that disproves anything I said though

>>14770433

Pokemon snap is awesome but playing it on computer I think is shit. I tried to emulate it a while ago and it didnt work out that well.

>>14756908

Pixelmon got shut down by the pokemon company because a handful of autists made a better game for free.

>>14774009

Are you sure it wasn't just Nintendo?

They are infamous for doing this.

>>14756879

I really love Blue and Emerald.

>>14770412

>move

The battles are slow as fuck too you fag.

>>14774102

maybe people shouldn't put things on blogs like that. i guess anonymous releases is not for attention whores?

not that this justifies nintendo's/gamefreak's behavior.

>>14773915

You can make sarcastic, dismissive comments about any new feature or mechanic change, anon.

>>14774102

>>14775536

I'm a former dev on sage, though I was already off the project when that incident went down and as such have no stake in defending the sage team, and I already broke down how that article is bullshit, see >>14766134

The idea that Sage can agree on anything enough to shun or kick out people with dissenting opinions is fucking laughable. Even the most mundane, common sense decisions get discussed and debated.

>It was guaranteed to go to shit the moment they split off of 4chan and started their shitty private chat….

Sage's chat predates the move off of halfchan, it existed even when the project was still run on /vp/. It was necessary, since once the project actually morphed from just being people making pokemon concepts into making an actual game, there needed to be a way to track and manage decisions even if it was still all up to anons: There needed to be ways to make surveys and such. Also, in practice, only a tiny minority of anons on /vp/ were actually contributors: Most just came in the thread and talked about shit and voted, almost all of the content contributors were on the chat and did so for the purpose of getting feedback and actually working on the game.

Also, said chat wasn't private: Anybody could and did joiniit, it only became private after development moved offsite.

>but anons voting on decisions was a core part of the project's structure and mission, having it go offsite ruins thatt

I agree with you, I wasn't happy about it, as were a lot of other people, but I can guarantee you with 200% certainty that if it stayed on /vp/, Sage would have been dead years ago. If you want me to clarify on this, let me know.

>>14773234

QoL features doesn't make up for extreme handholding, linearity and the lack of postgame of both gen 6 & 7 titles. Not to mention the Gen 1 pandering of XY, SM and USUM.

>>14776423

>QoL features doesn't make up for extreme handholding, linearity and the lack of postgame of both gen 6 & 7 titles

Of course not, didn't clam they did: Obviously XY isn't anywhere near as good as say Emerald or Platnium, I was just saying that XY wasn't complete dogshit like most people make it out to be as.

It's easy as shit, to be clear, but it's not that much easier then gen 3 or 2, and gen 1, thanks to the pathetic movepools, is even easier then it is; and XY has more content, iincluding postgame then they do, aside from Emerald. I don't actually mind linearty as long as it's executed well and I never feel like i'm being forced into it, and XY did a decent job of avoiding that by pokemon's standards.

XY is far from the best games in the seriiies, but it's far from the worst/least good one, as well.

The last playable gen was 4, and the only good remakes are fire red/leaf green, and heart gold/soul silver

everything after that is garbage

>>14776850

Nah man gen 5 is pretty good

Are there any good hacks out there that let you catch every pokemon through at least gen 5 in the wild without simply using a randomizer?

>>14776853

Gen V was a carbon copy of Gen I, which is why it was so successful

>egg / food pokemon

>sludge / garbage pokemon

>fossils

>route 1 rats and birds

>3 stage bug

>fire vs lightning horse

Etc

>>14777046

Basically, but without all the glitches and good battle speed

>>14777046

you forgot

munna = Drowsww

Roggenrola = Geodude

Woobat = Zuubat

timbur = Machop

tympole = Poliwhirl,

dwebble = paras,

>>14777162

Conceptually, I think it's a smart move: there's always been a bunch of pink, cutsey normal types that felt like their own thing serrate from the others; though infuriatingly some of them (Chansey and Audiino) stayed pure normal and didn't become part fairy

US/UM are fun to play but they don't have the charm of the older 2D pokemon.

I'm playing Ruby now and its really nice.

>>14777162

I would prefer Light type more, but it will do.

>>14774102

>I think the same thing happened with Pokemon 3D. The pokemon company shuts down anything pokemon related because fans have shown time and time again a single person can do better in a shorter amount of time.

It was especially visible after Prism.

Honestly, it's kind of amazing that Pokemon Reborn wasn't nuked yet.

>It deadly scares them, they know they're sitting on a genre they invented and monopolize it only because nobody ever tried to do the same.

There were some, but they didn't stuck around for long time with exception for Digimon and Monster Rancher or they are just MMOs.

>>14777162

not enough physical moves

>>14774102

>>14776264

speaking of fangames, are there any good "spinoff" fangames (that is, don't replicate the main games' mechanics, but feature the pokemon)?

>>14777959

>"spinoff" fangames

I think these don't exist or I just never heard about one.

>>14778122

I'm gonna make a small shoot-em-up starring Ribombee, for example. i shouldn't talk too much about it until i have a demo ready, though.

>Red/Blue/Yellow

Good beginning. The rather open map is a plus. The game mechanics were screwed in more ways than one, though.

>Gold/Silver/Crystal

The added map was huge, especially for those who enjoyed RBY. The mechanics got an upgrade, and you can't deny grabbing your first shiny poke was a defining experience

>Ruby/Sapphire/Emerald

Solid entries, despite a second half of the game full of one type in a game where type effectiveness defines the battles.

>Fire Red/Leaf Green

Solid remakes, despite the "no evolving pokes beyond Gen 1 if you haven't got the National Dex" bullshit being idiotic.

>Colosseum/XD

Great games, with nice difficulty. 3DS ports when ?

>Diamond/Pearl

TOO SLOW.

>Platinum

The physical/special split is a boon. The game was interesting too, although it felt like Emerald 2.5

>Heartgold/Soulsilver

Great remakes. The only messed up thing is the levelling curve, but it was worse in the originals.

>Black/White

Never thought I'd say that for a Pokemon game, but they did a nice work on the scenario with N and Ghetsis. Too bad the game was lambasted to hell and beyond for daring to do that.

>Black 2/White 2

The gameplay and Pokemon distribution was nice, the story lost its prime.

>X/Y

Hordes were fun to battle. Half of the Mega Evolutions should have become plain evolutions.

>Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire

Shallow remake trying to fit all game upgrades on it. Some Mega Evolutions were nice though.

>Sun/Moon

Way too easy, even by Pokemon standards. Splitting the Dex by island was a nice touch, but the game wasn't exciting or interesting except for newcomers. Too much catering for Gen 1

>Ultra Sun/Ultra Moon

Good upgrade from Sun/Moon, decent Pokemon game. Ultra Necrozma with 5-10 levels beyond what you faced before would have been a nice treat to battle if the rest of the encounters wouldn't give your team 10-15 levels beyond what you faced before. Rainbow Rocket is pants-on-head retarded.

>>14777959

Pokemon Generations is a dead fan project that tried to remake I forgot which game, except in 3D and with action-based combat. Imagine they tried to make a game around the anime's combat.

>>14777165

>he wants Chansey to become immune to Outrage

Yeah no. Go back to cuckchan's /vp/.

>>14778982

cute armpits

>>14778131

Good luck.

>>14780484

> I think most people are in agreement that Pokemon's spinoffs are as good or better then the mainline games.

Mainly, because these do something new with them at least.

>Pokken in particularly is legimately fucking excellent, it's a shame that Pokemon's general demographic isn't into it since it's a competiitive fighter.

I would like to see ARPG pokemon game. Even as just fangame.

>>14764885

>They could even pull a GS and have the protagonist from the first game be the champion (though any familiar character would work)

>Go to league

>Kukui greets you beforehand

>"Alola!"

>"Ah, I remember whenever when we were setting up the Pokemon league, ya!"

>"I put in all of this planning, though, there was one thing I was missing - a champion."

>"I remember fighting for that title a couple years ago, ya, but lost out the title. I'm not mad, of course. Finding someone better than you at something is just part of the endless discovery of life!"

>"Honestly cousin, I wouldn't have ever expected to be having this conversation, but since I am, here's a warning for the Champion: he's a tough one. He's one I've known had the potential for a long time now, ya."

>"Anyway, good luck!"

>Fight the Elite Four

>Get up to the platform

>The vast Alola sky greets the player as he/she ascends the elevator

>The camera pans on the battlefield, as the fight is more important than the chair at the end

>The chair's back is faced towards you, and the camera quickly pans on it

>The chair spins, a dialogue box opens

>"IT'S YAA BOY GUZMA!!!!"

>>14785430

>I'll never get this dank maymay people spout off, the mythological genwunner doesn't play anything past gen one, and the older players still riding Gamefreak's dick buy em for new designs/gib poor Gamefreak shekels.

You say that, but charizard was not only one of the first announced mega but he got fucking two of them.

>>14756908

>1523878206056.gif

>152

>pokemon go

hi cuckchan

>>14785430

Don't make me say what I haven't said, Gen 1 was a mess, both balance-wise and mechanics-wise, and FRLG was way better if only because it corrected that. I'm more of a Gen 3 fan, if only because of Colosseum and Emerald, even though White was the version I spent the most time on

>>14785454

Ampharos was the superior Mega dragon.

>>14760355

Consult this seven-hour video of a Scotsman discussing Omega Ruby in way too much depth if you're interested in seeing what the game is like without playing it.

>>14774009

It got picked back up by a 2nd, smarter dev.

>>14781586

Why do you keep bringing up chancey and blissey as if they were fairy type?

Okay I think Im gonna turn moon on

>>14785430

>And you can ride Gamefreak's dick harder than the village bicycle.

I didn't say XY was fantastic, I didn't even say it was great, all I said it wasn't absolute shit: It'ts not one of the best games in the series, but it's not one of the worst, either. If you got your head out of your fucking ass and looked at things objectively it'd be pretty damn obvious that it's far from the worst game in the series. R/B takes that title alone simply by virtue of how jank and limited by it's age it is.

Now, if you want to say that XY is the most DISAPPOINTING Pokemon game, or the one with the most wasted potential, then you'd have an arguement: Because XY should have been a hell of a lot fucking better considering the standard Platinum, HGSS, and gen 5 set, and given how ,much better XY could have been with just a few changes, but that's a separate metric and a separate argument.

>>14785846

To be fair, conceptually/in terms of flavor, they should be fairy type, they just aren't because GF is retarded

>B-BUT THAT'D BE BROKEN AS FUCK

It would be, but if GF was smart enough to realize that, then they'd also be smart enough to realize that Fairy ittself was broken and had a stupid Strength/Weakness charrt, butt they weren't, which makes me more lean towards GF just being stupid and not giving it to them because who the fuck knows why

>>14788950

><Regardless of the fact that Dragons were only good since they made up the majority of the high base stats

No way. Lack of resistances to their moves made Dragons. Fighters have similar stats and were never as popular. You could slap a Choice Band on them and just click Outrage. Hell, even fucking SPECSMENCE was a thing, with just 110 SATk and 100 Speed. Another way to prove it…take away Dragon type from Latios, Garchomp, Kingdra, and what remains? A NU pokemon probably…

I've got an eerie feeling I've had this exact argument before years ago…are you the same anon?

>>14789418

>but from what it feels like you seem to have played through the basegame; seen the basegame conniptions power of dragons and assumed the competitive scene is similar.

You assume too much. In fact I was a top player in D/P and B/W, reaching #1 in smogon both times, only playing for fun (fullderp) since then. But since you claimed bait and assumed shit about me, I'm not giving a lengthy reply about a pointless topic in the end.

>>14789639

Rato is actually kind of cute

>>14789783

>What do you guys think of my revised type chart?

It looks good.

>Any glaring balance issues?

>Ice

Good ideas to buff it. Just wanted to write that.

>Water

Becomes weak to poison. It makes sense.

>Steel

Becomes weak to Water and Electric.

Loses weakness to Fight and Ground.

Loses immunity to Poison.

I don't understand these changes.

>Electric

Weak against Dark.

What?

>>14789645

And he isn't even a rat.

>>14789783

Always wanted to see Psychic SE against Steel. It makes sense, with spoonbending and "mind over matter". Yeah, I agree with anon above. You've tried to do too much to steel. Just keep it as it usually is + add Psychic and Ice weaknesses. Don't add so many resistances to Ice, it was always supposed to be an offensive type.

Like the Grass resist to Fighting, it makes sense (punching grass does nothing). But why remove the fly weak? Well, I think you did too much modifications in general…I'd start from scratch, think "which types are too good/bad?" and make ONE change to those types. Then repeat the process until you're done.

>>14789916

So let's start with water. Too strong? Weak to poison. Fine now. Next.

Steel? Too strong. Weak to psychic. Fine now? No? Then weak to Ice. Next.

Grass sucks? Resists fighting. Fine now. Next.

Etc…

>>14756879

Unequivocally, gen 2 is best gen, fite me faggot

>>14789783

But why?

>>14789967

The only people who will fight you are retards

>>14789874

Instead of punching more holes into the Steel type, I decided to instead magnify its already existing weaknesses in a way that felt consistent with the design of its mons. Steel types are characterized by high Def and low SpD, so it is now weak to those that hit hard on the special side. This gives teams more consistent options when it comes to bypassing Steel, and also makes the Steel type more reliable in what it does since coverage is now more scarce. Immunity to Poison was removed since its too punishing for the poison type which is already wanting for coverage.

I made Electric weak to Dark because I thought it was a clever way to differentiate it from the Ghost type while adding weaknesses to Electric which was really good defensively. "Lights out" heh.

>>14789916

Ice now has those resistances so you can actually use Ice types instead of Ice moves. They can now switch into the things they're supposed to check. The rarity of ice types and their weak defenses balances them out, along with secondary types that add a lot of weaknesses since its resistances don't compound too well with anything else.

Grass was uplifted as a defensive type to match the design of Grass mons and to check the now very powerful elemental types. It wasn't a huge hit for Flying either since it wasn't relied on too much to defeat Grass. The removal of its Grass resistance was to help the few Grass type sweepers there are since its the weakest offensive type in the game. There's now less stuff in the way of it getting what it wants, which is SE hits on Water and Ground.

>>14790120

>Steel types are characterized by high Def and low SpD, so it is now weak to those that hit hard on the special side. This gives teams more consistent options when it comes to bypassing Steel, and also makes the Steel type more reliable in what it does since coverage is now more scarce.

Understandable. Steel types usually have high enough HP and would endure that anyway.

>Immunity to Poison was removed since its too punishing for the poison type which is already wanting for coverage.

It seems forced to me, but I can accept this.

>I made Electric weak to Dark because I thought it was a clever way to differentiate it from the Ghost type while adding weaknesses to Electric which was really good defensively.

That's large stretch, but it's your romhack.

>>14790120

I think Poison SE on Water is enough. Keep Steel's immunity. GL with the hack.

bump

>>14789967

>>14789987

>no physical special split

>no abilities

>no fronttier

It's the best relative to the time it released in/made the most improvements for a single gen compared to the last one, but it's not the best compared to Gens 3, 4, 5, or even 6 i'd say if you compare the games without giving them credit for innovation/for their age

heartgold

soulsilver

tcg (gbc)

>>14756879

>Soul silver and Heart Gold

>Leaf Green, Fire Red

>Black and White

You can just skip the rest

>>14785454

>Shitting up a design from gen one

>This somehow attracts genwunners.

>>14785622

Balance was 50/50 intentionally unbalanced/game bugs.

>>14786758

XY is the worst both due to,

Stupidly easy to trigger issues, Lumiose city save bug that would fuck your save, which in some instances was permanent even after the patch which took months.

Balance solutions, I predicted and was right both ways that both Fairy type and Megas would either be useless or would kill balance.

>>14799740

And CX is an absolutely disgusting design because they wanted the literal Dragon pokemon to be able to become a dragon type.

Reminder that Vibrava, Goomy and Turtonator are deemed 'more Dragon' than Charizard.

>>14801194

Genwun had only one dragon, very hard to find and raise. Probably was meant to be a "legendary" type at that point.

>>14756879

Unironically DPP and Gen IV games in general. Heart Gold and Soul Silver (part of gen IV) were great with the whole "walk around with your pokemon" thing.

>>14788229

Sorry, didn't notice you responded to me before, my bad (though my browser crashed and i'm using a diifferent one so I don't know if i'll have the same ID)

>So why do you stay with/shill for a project with people like that?

Well, since you touched on this, I will note that I actually have my own drama with other people, but it has nothing to do with politics and instead has to do with actual project development issues (tl;dr i'm a bit of an autist and often caused issues by being too obsessive about stuff, even when I was the only one who thought something was a problem): I bringn this up to note that if ANYBODY had a reason to take chao's side in this and go "yeah fuck sage buch of shitheads" it would have been me, yet as you can tell me take on this is a lot more neutral.

To answer your actual question here:

As I said, it was mainly 2 specific people, not everybody. If absolutely everybody was ganging up on him then yeah I probably would have said "fuck all of you" and just gone with him. Secondly, and I this might be a bit unrelatable without knowing the people involved like I do, but I did and do consider myself friends wiith all 3 people involved: Both Chao, who got kicked, and the 2 people who were shitting on him: This was not characteristic of their quality as a human being in general. Furthermore, as mentioned, us shitting on each otheer happens all the time, we are all anons, shitposting and calling eeach other autists or retards is typical: What went over the line here was frequency.

Their behavior was shitty, and I outright told them this and said they were being awful people in this instance, and I advocated for them to get consequences for instigating all of this. I did all I realistically could have, and this was, in the end, a spat between 3 of my friends, and I attempted to do what I thought was right, but in the end Chao ended up shooting himself in the foot and, despite thee fact I offered to help him and vouch for him to be able to stay around in off topic chats like I did even after I left development, he refused and left anyways.

Sure, I COULD have told Carson and Smokey they were cunts and refused to be friends with them after that, but what the fuck would that even accomplish at that point? Damage was done and while they weere being shitheads, it's not like they murdered a dude, it was ultimately a fucking spat, and it's not as if Chao was blameless in this: He said some absolutely stupid shit to prompt Smokey and Carson to shit on him for it, it only went over the line when they didn't stop. I already stuck my neck out for chao and against them so much, I don't think I had any moral obligation to break tiies with Smokey or carson And when I had my drama, while I asked for people to stick up for mee when I felt I was being shat on when I diidn't desevre it (and in retrospect, I DID deserve it), I certainly never fucking asked anybody to stop being friends or quit the project for my sake, that'd be unrealistic and childish.

Lastly, I'm just a very tolerant person when it comes to people: If somebody is a cunt, i'll tell them they are a cunt, but as long as they are willing to have a conversation and be helpful i'm not gonna refuse to do that eveen if I think they are absolute scum or they've personally been shitty to me (the fact SJW's are so INtolerant is a huge part of why I hate them) To be clear, it's not as if Carson and Smokey are complete jackoffs: Carson, for example is actually exceptionally good about being open minded to controversial views and considering them objectively, his behavior here was uncharacteristically dismsissive and hostile, due to actually somewhat understandable personal reasons/history with some of the stuff Chao commented on. Smokey is straight up abrasive and acts like a cock in conversations fairly frequently, but this was also out of character even for him.

>And if anything the article makes it sound like he was politically neutral who got gullag'd, while they had the break-down over someone not agreeing with MSM bullshit like they did.

I don't even know what "MSM" means, but no, that's not what happened. Nobody has ever been shat or kicked on just for disagreeeing with the status quo, we outright had a guy who as a unapoligeic, unironic, not shitposting at all antisemite who bitched about jewish people and he never got kicked for it, for instance (though he did leave due to other reasons eventually)

>Stupidly easy to trigger issues, Lumiose city save bug that would fuck your save, which in some instances was permanent even after the patch which took months.

>Balance solutions, I predicted and was right both ways that both Fairy type and Megas would either be useless or would kill balance.

Gen 1 had way more critical bugs and balance issues then XY did

>>14801120

Charizard isn't a dragon, it's just a flying lizard.

>>14756879

Pokemon games were never good.

>>14801194

>GF probably also thought that dragon was too powerful

Fire/Dragon is one of the best typings in the game and also would make blastoise's water type attacks only hit for neutral damage so this was probably the case

>>14781586

>all of which coincidentally became instant high tier mons

actually they were all considered top-tier before fairies existed, except for Aegislash which came into existence at the same time and is so powerful that Gamefreak nerfed the entire steel-type for it anyway

>>14788950

>the Dragon type in itself is not anything special, the Fairy type in itself is an innate buff

this is true, however that's because of the way those types work, fairy type was pretty much made to stop outrage spam and more generally as a foil to dragon types, as you said

>The Dragon type was never broken, the pokémon that made up the meta Dragon types were broken

with fairies GF took the opposite approach, making a broken type, but making most of the pokemon within that type pretty weak stat-wise

GF went back on this after releasing Sun and Moon and with them the Tapus, but the point still generally stands. Averaging all pokémon of each types' stats together shows that dragon types as of USUM have the highest HP, attack, SpA and SpD, while fairies tend to place very low, having the worst average attack and second worst average speed

>>14819505

You're using gaijin western definitions of a dragon. Charizard isn't a dragon. If it were, it would have the Dragon type. Because it does not, it isn't a dragon. It's just an overgrown lizard.

>>14819821

Dragonite is a dragon. Charizard is a flying lizard. The difference should be glaringly obvious, you've even posted pictures supporting my claim. I recommend reviewing your pokemon types before coming back to this thread.

>>14819821

>>14819731

>>14819720

>>14819720

I literally have aspergers and OCD and even I think you faggots are being too autistic, get your heads out of your ass

>>14759988

What anime is that?

>>14829852

bump

>>14829852

>>14834353

>Is there any reason to own Moon now that I have Ultra?

Minor story differences, but otherwise no.

>>14834400

gotcha, I'll go ahead and sell it then.

I like Gen II the most but I get why people might disagree.

>>14756899

> Emerald is not fun

The DS games must of been your first ones you of shit opinion.

>>14841891

>must of

*must have

>>14841358

>A nice big bowl of porridge will keep you fuelled for the entire day. Oats are a miracle.

the worst carb shit you could possibly eat

>>14847221

>not being a grammar natsoc

Unironically Pokémon Snap

>>14848552

This is the right answer.

>>14848460

Damn it.

Couldn't they use mega or google drive for this?

>>14851246

>Quick buttons in battle for healing items and pokeballs

Adding a quick button for Pokeballs in Gen 7 is one of the best additions they could have made, but any item would have been even better. I guess the "last item used" button is supposed to be for that but whatever.

I'm surprised nobody has bitched about all the SJW shit in Phoenix Rising yet. Say what you want about some of Sage's devs being retarded but at least there's no retarded pronoun bullshit.

>>14851270

>I'm surprised nobody has bitched about all the SJW shit in Phoenix Rising yet.

Wait, what?

How bad it is?

Is it Uranium-tier or Reborn-tier?

>>14851246

>They slapped the newest version into mega due to the other site being unable to handle the traffic so there you go.

Thanks, god.

>It's on their twitter page.

It will end with DMCA. They should have wait to 0.99 version before making that.

>>14851879

>It will end with DMCA

more like YMCA, because that's gay tbh

>>14851983

Stop being retarded.

Do you even know what DMCA means?

>>14852051

>Do you even know what DMCA means?

it's gay copyright takedown shit

>>14852279

Alright.

Sorry for doubting you.

Gonna say romhacks like SacredGold/Stormsilver because they improve the game by leagues. Pokemon XD also has a romhack called Pokemon XG, which adds many improvements, though if you want to wait until he adds EV reducing berries that may be in a later patch for max autism.

>>14851270

Either im too ignorant or they didn't add anything in the first episode from the few seconds I've played. Care to tell me more of these devs?

>>14851879

And you can crawl back to reddit

>>14857954

>And you can crawl back to reddit

Your redditor detector is broken.

>Care to tell me more of these devs?

Have archive about features in-game.

http://archive.is/eAm2J

>>14756879

PokeMMO :^)

>>14764406

Play Neo X and Neo Y. It redeems the whole game.

https://gbatemp.net/threads/pokemon-neo-x-neo-y.388272/

>>14756879

Digimon was better tbh.

>>14875928

>Lore

You're missing my point if you think this has anything to do with lore.

Glass snakes may resemble snakes but aren't real snakes because they have inflexible jaws, eyelids, ear openings, etc.

Charizard may resembles a dragon but doesn't have a dragon typing so he evidently isn't.

This is literally surface level 1+1 shit, if you don't understand even that much you have a problem.

>>14766134

yeah bud, i have a question for you

Why in the literal fuck did you hire tumblrina "artists" to do the art?

>>14875928

He's talking about biology, not pokemon lore. Your evasive maneuver has failed and left you open to a counterattack, you fool.

>>14879651

Are these supposed to be the same character? How come the concept art(?) in the last pic is a cute muscly anime girl when the sprite is some kind of man in drag with a push up bra and a half buzz cut?

>>14760355

suffers from nostalgia difficulty (I haven't checked but oras feels like less trainers have more than 3 mons, but i've also gotten better since original ruby not just being retarded when playing)

destroyed contests, secret bases and pokeblock making. If you don't care about em its not the WORST thing, but id recommend playing the rutile ruby or star saphire mods for difficulty.

as for a good standalone, hg and ss are probably solid, I don't like diamond, pearl, and plat because they feel too slow for me.

if you play sun or moon, just play ultra sun or ultra moon. same fucking game with some minor cut seen changes. hard to get through a second time

>>14876283

the difference between legless lizards and snakes is legless are asshole pets and snakes arent

also they smell, like really bad. snakes smell ok unless they slither through their poop

i guess youd hate life too if you were looked like a retarded bootleg of another species

In my opinion it was Pokemon Black and White

>Good starter designs

>Good protag design

>Rival had his own story arc that continued in the sequel game

>Game had a sequel instead of an enhanced third game

>Difference in versions went beyond what pokemon were available

>The changes in music for during battles made getting a gym leader down to their last pokemon feel really exciting

>The clash between the gym leaders and Team Plasma's Sages

>The musicians in certain towns that would add their own instrument to the town's theme

>No super-modes

Really BW was just so good I wouldn't mind a version with upgraded graphics and a few of the additions from the latest gen (mostly pokemon petting and UI changes along with some QoL changes)

God damn it there's so many covers of so many songs from pokemon but this one doesn't have any covers

>>14879810

Also the "Last Pokemon" music mentioned.

>>14879810

>>The changes in music for during battles made getting a gym leader down to their last pokemon feel really exciting

i hated it, because the last pokemon track is vastly inferior to the normal gym leader song

>>14879845

Fair enough. I really liked it for the above reason though. Had that "final showdown" feel to it.

>>14879877

>literal of spiritual manner.

'or'

>>14803528

So that guy got kicked for being shit… Yet those other two guys were allowed to stay?

Pretty clear exactly what they tolerate and what they don't.

If you do hate SJW for being intolerant like you say you did- why put up with how Carson and Smokey spoke to him? Irrelevant of what he said- they've shown they don't tolerate others.

> Carson, for example is actually exceptionally good about being open minded to controversial views and considering them objectively,

> Says his Dad deserves to be in the radius of another Religion of Peace "lone wolf"

Yeah nah. It's like when TB died and people shat on him because at one point he didn't agree GG was harassment. Like or loath the guy, you don't talk about someone with that much vitriol unless they deserve it. And not agreeing with them about video games isn't one of them.

> Sure, I COULD have told Carson and Smokey they were cunts and refused to be friends with them after that, but what the fuck would that even accomplish at that point?

Others spoke up to agree, they may have gotten kicked for their attitude, and people wouldn't think your project is only interested in antifa rejects.

Because it sounds like they rule the roost and no one questions them. You didn't.

>>14879711

IIRC, the 3rd pic is the back of a grunt for their team (desert hat with the shade on the neck and a cloak).

I assume the 4th pic was an alternative design or something.

>>14879877

I don't know if their engine has to use sprites, but if not there's no reason they couldn't use line-art. And it's not like there's tones of animation either, it's all still sprites and 3 frame shit.

Other than nostalgia bait.

>>14756879

When I want a bit of nostalgia every few years I go back and play blue/red. A few years ago I also emulated Blaze Black/Volt White. It's basically just black/white with all the pokemon from previous games added in to scratch that gotta catch em all itch. Haven't played any of the newer games.

>>14880057

I can't disagree with this chart.

Hell, I can't recommend XY on account of it being crap. And the same for Sun/Moon and USun and UMoon, but even then they have the same story, but different characters have better arcs in either version. Episode RR in USun/UMoon hints at what good puzzles could have been like, but even then I felt that was more relief from how shit it had all been up to that point. Music was great though

>>14880057

This tier list is 100% correct. I've played a game from every generation since Red and Blue released and can attest that generations 6 and 7 have no real gameplay hook to them beyond the series' staples. Mega evolutions and Z-moves are limiting to team construction if you intend to use them. Gen 6 was stupidly easy and forgettable. While gen 7 had more in the way of memorable content there isn't much in the way of challenge outside of Ultra Necrozma. Even then, that's only a challenge if you refuse to use the Exp. Share like a man.

After seeing the Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee trailer my hopes for 8th gen are significantly lessened.

>>14880255

>While gen 7 had more in the way of memorable content there isn't much in the way of challenge outside of Ultra Necrozma. Even then, that's only a challenge if you refuse to use the Exp. Share like a man.

And even then you can cheese it by abusing the AI with typings/abilities and using Toxic so it does nothing while its chipped away.

The issue with the core battling system is that once you get enough stat-boosts, you win. You can steam-roll over the rest of the team if you're fast and strong enough.

Maybe that's why they had trainers with 1 Pokemon (though that solves the problem the worst way possible).

>>14880346

It was great for nostalgia appeal.

Though I did hear some folks creamed over BW. People hype over the slightly different overworld artstyle, moving sprites in battle, doing the E4 in any order, and the Champion being interrupted for the plot?

>>14756879

Go with black and white

black and white 2

heartgold/soul silver

emerald

gold/silver/crystal

>>14881267

Cont:

>>14879948

>IIRC, the 3rd pic is the back… an alternative design or something.

The the overworld sprite in thee third pic is indeed of a generic grunt, but the actual sprite/graphic that shows up is the amber/admin design. See above for 4th pic

>I don't know if their engine has to use sprites///couldn't use line-art

We could if that's the style/aeshetic we were going for but it's not. The guidelines for sprite/graphic assets are actually public, if you want to read them: http://capx.wikia.com/wiki/Sprites is the main sprite page and also is the main directory for pokemon battle sprites, and has the sprite guidelines for those on there. It also links to pages for item, NPC trainer, overworld sprites, etc, and those pages have the guidelines for those.

>>14880057

>>14880138

>>14880332

I've already said this before in this thread but XY and ORAS aren't nearly as trash as people imply. They might be the pokemon games with the most wasted potential/least impressive relative to the year they released in, but just straight up compared to other games in the series, without retarded qualifiers like "how good they are for their time" they are far from the worst.

RBY is objectively the worst in thee series solely just due to how jank and primitive it is as a result of it's age. It looks and sounds like trash, it's buggy as shit, it has a ton of baffling design choices before they got fixed via quality of life changes later in the series (no bag pockets, the PC box system being stupid, etc), fundmaentally broken gameplay choices such as it's type chart and tons of types not having any decent moves, etc. In general, objectively, every pokemon game is better then the one before it, EXCEPT D/P., which were a step back from Emerald, and Gen 6/7, which were a step back from BW/Bw2, and even then they are only a step back, not complete trash.

In general people need to understand that "Best for it's time/most revolutionary/innovattive" is an entirely seperate metric from "the best". A fucking wooden club isn't a better weapon tthen a metal mace just because it came first and was a way bigger improvement over punching things then the steel mace was over a slightly not as good metal mace, yet that's how people treat video games.

>>14881272

>RBY is objectively the worst in thee series solely just due to how jank and primitive it is as a result of it's age.

>It looks and sounds like trash,

The graphics and sounds are part of its charm.

>it's buggy as shit,

And most of the bugs concern irrelevant shit.

>it has a ton of baffling design choices

As well as a ton of good ones that were removed in the later games - such as you actually needing to catch pokemon to beat the gym leaders. It's actually really hard to beat the game with just your overpowered starter. Misty will clean up Charmeleon. Sabrina or Blaine Venusaur, Surge Wartortle, etc…Later games gave starters so many coverage moves that it's now irrelevant.

>before they got fixed via quality of life changes later in the series (no bag pockets, the PC box system being stupid, etc),

So irrelevant convenience shit?

>fundmaentally broken gameplay choices such as it's type chart and tons of types not having any decent moves, etc.

Well I agree here, not much to say. But this has persisted until the physical / special split.

Don't get me wrong, G/S/C clearly improved on R/B/Y. And R/S/E even further, but the shitting on genwun is really unjustified…

>>14882547

>The Spaceworld Demo was leaked

Holy shit this is complete news to me, it must've been recent because I fucking love tcrf The Banjoo Pilot Voxel Engine ROM on their was originally uploaded by me, thank you fag from halfchan /g/ those few years ago for getting it off of BetaArchive for me

>>14882558

literally like an hour ago

>>14882558

Looking again, it was uploaded this month, damn. And its a 1997 build, Pokemon Red/Blue wasn't even out in America yet. I love shit like this

>>14881741

>It's actually really hard to beat the game with just your overpowered starter

<implying that you can't easily cheese the entire game with 100% critrate Razor Leaf/Slash

>>14882579

these fucking sprites i love it buff ass poliwrath

>>14881741

>It's actually really hard to beat the game with just your overpowered starter.

I've been playing Pokemon since before I could fucking read and I know you're full of shit, its always been piss easy to grind your starter to the top and just use the rest as HM slaves. That's been one of Pokemons main issues since the very beginning. Everyone even back then had a single lvl 60 starter and a bunch of lvl 10 to 40 HM slaves. You caught maybe a higher-level wild just to fallback on when your sterter faints so you can use a revive and that's it

>>14882579

>All these unused pokemon

Some of them were really neat and it baffles me why they didn't use them.

>>14882653

i wonder if some of the concepts will get revisited.

>>14882617

>'these flaws aren't flaws if you're a casual player that doesn't look at them objectively'

>"literally"

>ending statements with question marks

>unironically using "PvE" to describe a non-MMO game

Holy shit go back to cuckchan or Reddit or whatever shithole you came from

>>14882671

>voodoo doll evolves into jiangshi panda bear

i'd take it

>>14882681

It's a retarded image that says shit like

>A poison you can get once on one of 5 pokemon 2/3 into the game is broken because it doubles up if you spend two turns using the combo!

Unless they're just trying to say 'its buggy because its an unintended interaction', but then why not bring up Missingno and other commonly known bugs if the point was just to make fun of the bugginess of the game? They're clearly trying to make some retarded statement about the balance of Gen 1.

>>14882616

Yeah of course grinding can bypass it. I knew a kid who had a level 75 Venusaur and still couldn't beat Agatha's Gengars.

>>14882579

no lugia surprisingly.

sneasle being literally a weasel is pretty damn funny. at least they reused that design for the mienshao line.

>>14882701

The first time I played the game I went solo Venusaur and just spammed Razor Leaf for the entirety of the game with no problems. No grinding required. Was he trying to Solarbeam them or something?

>>14882713

No, he was using Razor Leaf as well. I don't believe you.

And after Agatha there's Lance's Dragonite as well. Even worse.

>>14882729

>And after Agatha there's Lance's Dragonite as well. Even worse.

won't it just spam its psychic special move, since venusaur is poison type?

>>14882733

>psychic special move

*psychic status move

>>14882739

you can use select on title to fuck around some more.

OP here can someone give me a TLDR and tell me which to play

>>14882796

>>14880057

>>14882796

Platinum or HGSS

>>14882796

this. either are really good entry points.

>>14882788

>>the thing on slowbro's tail/slowking's head is called turban

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbinidae

>>14882798

needs to be updated to include gen 7

>>14882733

Oh! You're right, I totally forgot. Now that's a bug that actually ruins the game, instead of the leech seed+toxic irrelevant crap that's mentioned all the time.

But you know…you're still limited in PP if you want to solo E4 with Venusaur. And Dragonite will take like 10 Razor Leaves I guess…