b6d445 No.14755577
laughter is truly the best medicine, thank you OP
e7691d No.14755623
I wonder how many of the "Windows" computers are actually VMs running on Linux?
a73455 No.14755670
>lincucks still have an inferiority complex when modern windows software is so shit not even winfags use it
91a69d No.14755686
Woah an entire 0.22% raise! That's almost 1/4th of 1%! How can microkike recover from this booming trend?
e21bdd No.14755779
Since I was a child I heard the cries
>year of the linux desktop!
It's 20 years later and here they are still bragging about 1% of the desktop market
>run Gentoo
>don't give a fuck what other anons run
>mfw
e07fc8 No.14755810
>>14755573
>Linux Rose 0.22%
It's over wincucks, switch over while you still can.
a6d5ee No.14756054
Why would I use a service built for proprietary games that includes its own DRM if I use fucking linux? The whole point of using linux is muh freedumbs, if I didn't care about that I'd use macOS since it's pretty much just linux with a great DE.
82e83f No.14756060
>>14755792
now make it with him sucking the penguin's balls
linux+kvm or bust
8cdffe No.14756153
Don't you people realise microscam probably pays gaybin to fake these statistics so more people stay on windows because herd mentality? In reality the usage of linux, and the amount of vidya gamers on *nix is much much higher. I am sick of these lies.
99d0b9 No.14756173
>Correct the survey so Chinese internet cafes don't count the same PC multiple times for the millions of PUBG chinks
>AMD and Linux "gain" market share as a result of the correction
5b630d No.14756210
>>14755779
>don't give a shit about what other people do
You're a liar. Specially when other people doing something in a certain way often means the death of something good.
af768a No.14756280
>>14755573
Do you mean it increased by 0.22% or it got 0.22 percentual points more than the previous month?
4c8a10 No.14756284
>>14755810
>those stockings
how big is your pic rel's feminine penis?
63cb25 No.14756473
>implying there isn't more
Most linux users run steam on wine.
I don't even have the linux client downloaded.
e07fc8 No.14756503
>>14756284
I actually don't know the source, sorry.
b90f54 No.14757182
>>14756473
>running steam in the first place
https://volafile.org/r/jhv1p8p8
There, cracked Steam .so, download Linux versions of Steam games on a wangblows computer using SteamCMD then slap that sucker in there and run them natively, note that the .ini file needs to be placed alongside the .so file. Got Terraria and a few other games working this way particularly happy about Terraria since the GOG version doesn't support mods. Before some faggot chimes in about piracy, good fucking luck finding up to date versions of Steam games for Linux.
c9a7e3 No.14759503
>>14757200
>2nd image
>a cuckchanner can't figure out UN*X
Colour me shocked.
87c463 No.14759519
>want to use linux
>don't know if cintiq works in it
>don't know if specific art program works in it
>stay in wangblows 7 to avoid crippling ability to use computer
OSes are gay
87c463 No.14759531
Also is reactOS not shit yet?
2a9a48 No.14759550
>>14759519
>want to use linux
>not sure what to go with
>look up what distros are good
>autistic screeching all over the place
>just try a few out
>each have some essential functionality broken that i can't find a fix for
>fuck off back to windows 7
>haven't had an issue since
8158fe No.14759561
>>14759531
You can't install DirectX on it, so it's still shit.
Also the runtimes are just WINE, so if a program doesn't use the GPU and it runs in WINE, it will probably work in ReactOS.
e57ac6 No.14759563
Does Linux include Android?
73ea36 No.14759579
>>14757200
Double posting just to say
KEK
mint > all other distros FIGHT ME BRO
c9a7e3 No.14759956
>>14759531
It'll always be shite because vodka niggers are the brains behind it.
262a25 No.14760067
>>14755573
It rose because they stopped over-counting chink internet cafes.
3f2f1c No.14760091
>>14759579
Mint is one of the worst distros out there.
>rip off of a rip off of a shitty distro
>security problems out the ass, both in the distro itself and the websites/forums
>windows pandering
016189 No.14760135
>The number of GNU/Linux users selling out to DRM rose by 0.22%
Wow, great news!
bc45a7 No.14760154
>>14756153
Fun fact: windows users already deal with their fair share of shit with windows, especially the abomination that is windows 10. If there existed even one single linux distro remotely close to usable you would have found windows users flocking to it en masse… Too bad there isn't one though.
bc45a7 No.14760218
>>14760091
So what's the best distro?
edbe4d No.14760238
691da2 No.14760244
If people really wanted others to switch to Linux they would have one click gaming without reading tutorials for all games. People pay for convenience.
5f9399 No.14760264
Let's see….
>win10: 53.10%
if this isn't enough to prove steam's userbase is majority normal fags, let's take on the next exhibit
>Windows 7 (32bit) 1.97%
who the FUCK would have a 32 bit version of winblows 7 when xp is significantly better for that? And not just that, but enough people to make up 2% of the users. Guess a bunch of old faggots installed steam for monopoly or something.
And of course the linux section is just unbuntu; an distro so dumbed down for retards it breaks itself if you try to do anything besides click the win buttons
>>14756054
>muh freedumbs
ermm… how about using a computer because its useful? Idealolgy shouldn't come into computing.
82a549 No.14760277
>>14760091
Can you go into any of the security problems?
c9a7e3 No.14760284
>>14760264
>how about using a computer because its useful?
Free Software makes computing more useful by allowing the users to inspect, modify and share that which drives the computer.
02c380 No.14760292
>>14760264
Usefulness really shouldn't come at the expensive of your privacy and technically, what are your rights that are being illegally suppressed via a eula, not to mention all the issues of exploitable deliberately left holes in security for a method of commercial exploitation that is ultimately less effective than using market history which stores legally have the rights to, and isn't open to exploitation by a politically influenced unstable company.
5f9399 No.14760307
>>14760284
>Free Software makes computing more useful by allowing the us-
no that's the source code
>>14760292
>what are your rights that are being illegally suppressed via a eula
i don't give a fuck about licenses and not a single agreement can stop me from doing anything
02c380 No.14760320
>>14760307
Technically, you're right, eula agreements aren't enforceable and haven't been since like 2002. That doesn't mean they aren't going to do whatever the fuck they made you agree to in the eula and forfeit any rights you have until you sue them for your rights back.
And then they bump out a new eula a week later and go back to business as usual.
2a9a48 No.14760332
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>>14760292
in a world where every device spies on you, most people have just completely given up on caring. The Alexa helper thing was the second best selling holiday item last year despite being an always-listening, Kinect-tier botnet.
The only way Linux could gain any traction would be if it were more convenient to use. It isn't. It's a pain to set up, it's a pain to iron out all the fucking random issues that pop up, and all that effort for no real benefit. It doesn't really run better than Win 7, running programs through Wine is just an added step. All you have is the smugness from knowing that you're using Linux.
02c380 No.14760348
>>14760332
Still, I don't think it has the attach rates Amazon wanted. They recently pushed out a ton of revisions and attached it to all their dedicated applications.
dbc24d No.14760396
>>14759519
>don't know if cintiq works in it
Hardware always works in Linux. If it doesn't, you did something wrong.
>don't know if specific art program works in it
Probably not. You have to use one of the libre alts because Adobe etc. hate freedom.
>>14759550
This is the typical first exposure to Linux. It's due to you being so inexperienced with the system that you don't even know what to search to figure out a resolution. If you stick with it, you get over this hump in about 2-3 weeks.
>>14759565
More users than Windows 10 32-bit!
>>14760238
Go to bed, Terry.
>>14760332
The smugness is worth it.
c9a7e3 No.14760418
>>14760307
>no that's the source code
What good is a computer without source code, ya dingas.
da0bbf No.14760427
While win 10 can suck my fat chode what makes Linux the second coming of Christ?
02c380 No.14760441
>>14760427
>What makes linux the second coming of christ?
Essentially the same thing that'd make any video service beat youtube.
Real support for the deluge of software that has a metaphorical language barrier for any competing operating system.
da0bbf No.14760453
>>14760441
Could you go more in depth?
830327 No.14760481
>>14760453
It's the command-line and being able to run programs from it without having to fuck around with shit, it's convenient for amateur software with a lot of features like ffdshow, simple scripts you could run from a friend, things like that.
1f802b No.14760491
>>14760332
>>14760396
>computer illiterate cousin installs Linux for the first time
>thinks he is hot shit and talks down others for not using it even though he often needed help for the most basic stuff in wangblows for years
>"You can do everything, it is so much better and faster!"
>whenever he used windows he'd bloat it with useless programs both on startup and in the background
>now sends emails telling people how Linux respects your privacy and how important that is when he had Win 10 on his computer less than a year ago and couldn't care less about any of my warnings
I don't get it.
Besides, all I ever do is play video games anyway and the hassle isn't worth it, not to mention that a lot of the games outside of steam have trouble running.
02c380 No.14760492
>>14760453
There's roughly 30 years of software that's going to be stuck behind an emulation wall, and while virtualizing software environments has come a long way the necessity for hacks and individually applied fixes as well as all the complexities of essentially brute forcing code where it isn't meant to be will essentially ensure that there will not be
1. Enough support for mass switching from Windows to Linux
2. Sufficient users to encourage development of complete solutions.
Problem 2 feeds into Problem 1 and vice versa, long point made short the 3 decades of software (and continuing as long as windows is not stripped of their legacy code protection), and that's not even getting into Microsoft introducing an entirely new application protocol and abusing their monopoly status to set software compatibility back even further.
da0bbf No.14760541
>>14760481
That sounds interesting
000000 No.14760831
>install windows 7 on my laptop
>no sound drivers
>no gpu drivers
>no drivers in general
>try to connect to wifi to download them
>no wifi drivers
>try a wired connection
>no ethernet drivers
>download them using another computer
>finally install the drivers
>laptop now updating for literally hours
>try to find a way to lower the backlight because the minimum is too bright
>can't do that in windows
>fuck, my eyes
I don't even care about freedumbs all that much, Windows is just shit.
d9fb15 No.14760841
>>14760831
>running archaic hardware windows has no generic drivers for
>not having your drivers before reinstalling your OS
831501 No.14760873
>>14760481
Here's an example I ran in to recently.
>have text file containing direct urls for some images
>want to download the images they point to at original quality (e.g. tumblr URLs point to a downscaled version if the original is larger than 1280p, but the URL can be edited to point to the original)
<WANDOWS
>see if someone has written a program for the sole purpose of getting raw images from whatever website
>even then it probably would require you to put in the links in manually or copy/paste them
>failing that, you might be able to make a batch file to do it
>else give up and do it manually
<LUNIX
>use sed to transform the URL to the raw image's URL
>wget -i sauce.txt
850524 No.14760954
>>14759565
put into context that's a ~100% gain, impressive
6fcade No.14760972
>>14760831
I'm sorry your hardware is literally so old it was made before any host configuration interfaces became standardized? You're a coward behind Tor though so I don't know what to expect
34dfd2 No.14760979
yfw you didn't fall for the Linux meme
6fcade No.14761001
>>14759565
>Windows 7 literally gained more users than every single Linux distro combined
Fucking how?
>>14759563
Linux when put into this context is shorthand for "GNU/Linux" so in this case, no, no it doesn't. Android is Android/Linux. But even that's a misnomer. Android is actually more like Android/Linux/Little Kernel. And as soon as Googles Fuchsia OS becomes a thing it'll just be Fuchsia/Little Kernel
Basically Android is a userland, that uses Busybox for the core utilities, that uses Linux for the running kernel with a lot of modifications (wavelocks, a different memory management and scheduling modules.etc) that uses Little Kernel as the firmware and second stage bootloader. Androids kernel is actually a hybrid kernel in this case, similar to OSX and Windows NT. Whereas in Windows NT. NT itself is the main kernel, while ntoskrnl.exe is the microkernel. In Mac OSX, XNU is the main kernel, while Mach is the microkernel. To reiterate, again, in Android, Linux is the main kernel, Little Kernel is the microkernel.
Even still, Linux' dominance in the embedded space is like being dominant in the special Olympics. One can argue Industrial TRON still dominates in this segment
33c8e5 No.14761442
>>14759550
I use mint cinnamon for shitposting and old vidya that just works! and a w7 machine for my Japanese pornographic 3D games
9cb102 No.14761651
Why would you use Linux for things other than servers?
d9761b No.14762743
>>14760831
Check your computer manufacturer's website for drivers, or just download any of the gazillion driver packs online and let windows sort through them and get what it needs. Problem solved.
8c0525 No.14762759
>>14760873
That are a plethora of tumblr downloaders for windows, besides that wget exists on windows as well as linux (and with readily available available GUIs if you want).
a9e588 No.14762794
>>14760396
>Hardware always works in Linux
Unless it's an nvidia graphics card ;^)
45c289 No.14762818
>>14761651
>using loonix on a server
What are you, gay?
e9e211 No.14762820
>>14762794
>Unless it's an nvidia graphics card ;^)
More like if it's anything made in the last 5 to 10 years
e9e211 No.14762823
>>14762818
I thought loonix was a prime server OS?
e4cd52 No.14762828
>>14757182
>some faggot chimes in about piracy
>on 8chan
45c289 No.14762871
>>14762823
No, commies and faggots just try to tell you that. It is shit.
ac0f86 No.14762874
>>14762823
it is.
>>14762820
wrong
>>14762794
slightly wrong. still nvidia's fault.
>>14761651
freedom in all aspects of the word, and superior package management.
0cae22 No.14762879
>>14756473
why do you run steam in wine instead of the linux steam version?
is there a reason for this?
45c289 No.14762896
>>14762879
Because most games are windows only so that's their only option.
57ec1d No.14762902
>>14755573
Heh
Reactos is already more stable after its new release and can run games just fine.
0cae22 No.14762903
>>14762896
But you can still only play games that are supported by wine right?
ea62dd No.14762920
>>14760492
>>14760481
Two things that I absolutely hate about L*nux is the very obstructive nature of community and documentation alike (most info is given as is, assuming that you already know both basics and advanced mechanics, while the average tutorial or guideline teaches you baby shit and/or just tells you to write the funny commands without giving a proper explanation as to why everything works the way it does) and the fact that since it's an extremely varied landscapes of amateurs and dedicated developers, there's no good and direct solution to any given problem, only an endless amount of workarounds that you just gotta accept as "working as intended".
I do appreciate the amount of customability and the cred behind its continued development - that only autist hobbysts deserve to work with computahs while the rest of the world's ignorant plebeians must maintain their indentured servitude pledge to (((Microsoft))), but half the time it just feels like the solutions proposed for mundane shit by L*nuxfags are nothing but pretentious attempts at sounding smarter and cooler than what they can actually achieve. Isn't Ubuntu basically the worst and most spied on version but still the most used by virtue of being the one that looks the LEAST like a distro? Mint was pretty cool though, at least ddrescue and a bunch of other utility software for recovery worked acceptably over it.
Besides, there's this constant vibe I'm getting form any developer or user of distros that just screams "commie" to me. Now I understand that the current state of biz is just dominated by Jewish golems intent on monopolizing the entire industry with their subpar but ubiquitous products but the whole point of having commercial and black box software is to stir competition so that BubbaJoeSoft has a reason for developing a new image editing software to try and do what JimboJeffSoft did with theirs. Developing shit in a world where the only kind of recognition is only of the personal, sentimental kind with no real reward behind it only leads to the development of software that either solves a problem a small group of people were interested in fixing or it's just some scientific project that is doomed to be bought up by actual investors (who in turn will make it a proprietary solution) if successful, or to be relegated to the dustbin of the internet if failed.
6805df No.14762938
>>14762874
Not an argument
6805df No.14762946
>>14762902
Can it live boot from USB though? Last I heard only live CD booting was possible.
45c289 No.14762948
57ec1d No.14762957
af768a No.14762966
>>14762902
Any comparisons to windows using the same hardware? What about what other people said about do DirectX support?
c3093b No.14762969
>>14762920
>Two things that I absolutely hate about L*nux is the very obstructive nature of community and documentation alike
Most things you will ever need to do from the terminal have adequate documentation available simply by calling `man [command]` and for the more popular distros there are detailed getting started guides and wikis.
>Isn't Ubuntu basically the worst and most spied on version
None of the major Linux distros are, there was a controversy a while back with Ubuntu and Amazon but that's not the case anymore.
>but still the most used by virtue of being the one that looks the LEAST like a distro?
People use it because it just fucking works and uses one of the more intuitive desktop environments, because of this lots of software is compatible with it (software released for Linux will almost always have Ubuntu as one of its supported distros) which further increases the number of people who use it.
For anyone wanting to switch over from Windows to Linux the best option is Kubuntu 18.04 (Ubuntu 18.04 which has KDE as its desktop environment). For most hardware configs it will work right out of the box and KDE has a very similar feel to Windows.
57ec1d No.14762981
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14762966
Reactos is based on Windows NT and should support direct x natively, all the way to direct x 12 but that isn't supported yet.
a9e588 No.14763088
>>14762874
Nvidia are shits no matter what os you run, but they've done nothing but fuck up linux since i started using it years ago.
Almost every single problem i have ever had and will ever have with the operating system has always been because of nvidia fucking something up, droping legacy drivers, or being kikes and not supporting opensource drivers.
>>14762879
Because linux has no games ;^)
Actually, it's because the steam version for linux is mostly designed around debian's package model, and thus the libs and almost everything about it reflecs that of debian.
The other part is, linux games often run on older libraries and don't update at all, same goes with most GoG linux games.
The best method of getting a linux game is praying it's in your repository, or compiling it yourself.
And that's if your lucky enough to have it be opensource.
Using wine is the only sane way of doing things, since
1)it normally has more games avaible for it.
2)It can be much more stable because most libraries linux versions use are outdated as fuck.
3) piracy is better because it's just the windows version
Linux is an operating system, not a games console.
Linux is desgined to work around a opensource community of developers and generally isn't made to work well with those who want to play the latest AAA trash.
But, it has some pretty good emulators.
a9e588 No.14763096
>>14762902
Wait, reactOS is usable?
45c289 No.14763117
>>14763096
Nope. You can copy files sometimes now though!
fc5ca6 No.14763123
>not having Linux as your primary OS for serious buisness
>not running windows in a VM with PCI passtrough for vidya
I ain't sure if the lot of you are stupid, ignorant, lazy or newfags.
c0c361 No.14763124
>>2050
>> 0.1% rise
year of the linux desktop confirmed
>>2099
>>0.09% rise
year of the linux desktop confirmed
i dont think its coming lol
a9e588 No.14763132
>>14762920
Hey buddy, heres a hint
man <command>
thank me later ;^)
4ae488 No.14763157
>>14760264
>who the FUCK would have a 32 bit version of winblows 7 when xp is significantly better for that?
Old notebook users who use licensed windows they got with book and stuck with no possibility of upgrade to win 10 due to reasons.
000000 No.14763411
>>14760841
>>14760972
>2012
>old
wat the fug
>>14762743
It's kind of hard to download anything when neither the wifi nor the ethernet work, which is why I had to download the drivers using another computer.
And anyways, even when I got everything working, it was shit. I found no way to manually issue a hard power off acpi call to the dedicated nvidia gpu (it causes a little bit of coil whine while idle). I also found no way to set the backlight to anything below the minimum, which is 976 (out of 4882). In Linux, everything just werks, I can easily set my backlight to a comfortable value of 244, and the nvidia gpu is can be completely disabled.
ea62dd No.14763751
>>14759565
People STILL use XP unironically?
>>14760154
Pretty much this, everyone screeches about L*nux being the superior choice but there's not a single distro that does the same things that W7 did to be come the dominant player.
>>14760238
If you're so sure about it being the best one, why do you need to spoiler it and can you explain why exactly is it the best or is it just the one you like using the most? See what I mean? It's either ironic shitposting or people not being able to tell subjective from objective or fearing that their subjective opinion may be challenged by the GNUhorde. Also
>inb4 different distros can be used for different functionalities! No such thing as a general purpose OS!
Do you even know why (((Microsoft))) became such a hit despite having an inferior product?
>>14760264
True, Steam usage is basically a small tier above people who own and unironically defend consoles over pc.
>>14760284
>Free Software makes computing more useful by allowing the users to inspect, modify and share that which drives the computer.
Do you ever do any of that inspection, modification and sharing business or are you just a freeloader?
>>14760396
>Hardware always works in Linux. If it doesn't, you did something wrong.
This is true. By the way, any idea why I keep getting DMA errors but for some reason the machine runs despite stalling every quarter of an hour?
>This is the typical first exposure to Linux. It's due to you being so inexperienced with the system that you don't even know what to search to figure out a resolution. If you stick with it, you get over this hump in about 2-3 weeks.
Either me and a hundred thousand other anons in this thread are retarded beyond saving or it's just a fact we gotta accept that any feature that should be immediate in other proprietary software cannot be taken for granted in Linux.
>>14763132
Half the shit I've used it on goes into technicalities or doesn't provide a clear indication of the main function of said software because, you guessed it, having a billion monkeys coding away with their own unique style and ideals on what constitutes comprehensive documentation can never ever beat having standardized descriptions.
>>14762969
>None of the major Linux distros are, there was a controversy a while back with Ubuntu and Amazon but that's not the case anymore.
Oh, I see. Where can I read more about it exactly?
>For anyone wanting to switch over from Windows to Linux the best option is Kubuntu 18.04 (Ubuntu 18.04 which has KDE as its desktop environment). For most hardware configs it will work right out of the box and KDE has a very similar feel to Windows.
Well, that's awfully convenient, thanks for the suggestion.
Maybe I'm looking like an absolute moron for asking this but what are the main challenges in trying to get a program that used to work on Microshit running on Linux? Dependencies? .NET Framework + DirectX being nebulous and impossible to reverse engineer or emulate correctly? The way Windows uses pages against the way Linux distros use blocks? Better but extremely obscure alternatives?
>>14763088
>But, it has some pretty good emulators.
Gimmie
2a9a48 No.14763779
>>14763751
XP is solid if all you have is a shitty potato. I fix up people's computers and often times, I've installed XP for them just for performance reasons. Runs way better than 7 does then.
6c653a No.14763798
>>14760154
If you're competent enough to install windows from a DVD then you can install a lot of linux distros from DVD and have all basic functionality. Things only gets complicated if you try to use something like photoshop and require wine or VM. If you stick to natively supported stuff it's not just comparable, it's objectively easier thanks to package managers. THe reason why people use windows is the same reason they facebook. They're normalfags. Simple as that.
68ce59 No.14764052
>>14763779
Yes, XP is good if you have a complete potato. But if you have a half-decent computer Windows 7 is the better choice because of the 64-bit option
2141bc No.14764199
>>14755623
Less than the number of computers being listed as Linux, guaranteed.
3d9cee No.14764224
>>14761001
It might not be perfect, but Windows 7 is probably the best modern OS, where it's modernized, has good QOL features, and "just works" with pretty much anything out of the box. I tried to go back to XP, but it's missing crucial things for me, like the win+arrows to clamp windows to certain areas, for example. Lots of software is compatible with 7, and anything that breaks can just be spun up in a dosbox or emubox with XP.
It doesn't have the best privacy, being MS shit, but you can neuter the telemetry and it's pretty good after that.
Of course, this is subject to individual tastes.
0d7056 No.14764329
>>14763123
Most Linux gamers I've met say they opt out of the Steam survey because it's an invasion of privacy. I know some who just dual boot to Windows for games or use a passthrough because it's safer to have pajeet programmed games on an already exploited operating system. I'm sure a lot of Linux users also don't use Steam because it's a hunk of shit.
c1c9ef No.14764357
>>14763751
>Pretty much this, everyone screeches about L*nux being the superior choice but there's not a single distro that does the same things that W7 did to be come the dominant player.
Name one thing that Windows does that your average distro running with KDE or XFCE doesn't. People keep spouting this meme about Windows doing something, anything at all, that Linux can't, but they never actually mention something specific. Just random platitudes about "usability" without any examples.
cdeba5 No.14764368
>>14763123
All the games I care about run fine natively or via WINE (and mostly without the need of using Steam). Why should I set up a VM for that?
038ac8 No.14764409
>>14763798
>try and do something complicated
>like run photoshop
887324 No.14764425
>>14763798
Yeah let's just pretend that linux has awful hardware support, no functional nvidia drivers, autisticly refuses to add GUI's to otherwise good software, and the list goes on.
No nigger is interested in learning a completely new operating system only to find out that it lacks support for their devices or is physically incapable of running the programs they need. Pretending like linux distro's have any practical use compared to windows for the layman is fucking retarded.
c1c9ef No.14764500
>>14764409
He never said running photoshop was complicated. He was saying that it gets complicated if you try to use something like photoshop. It's tough because Photoshop uses tons of native APIs and is a massive and complex program written for a different OS. Wine is good software, but there's only so much a small volunteer team can do when it comes to replicating 30 years of Windows bugs.
>>14764425
> Yeah let's just pretend that linux has awful hardware support, no functional nvidia drivers, autisticly refuses to add GUI's to otherwise good software, and the list goes on.
OK, but why are we pretending that these things are true when they are patently wrong?
cdeba5 No.14764565
>>14764425
>"Pretending like linux distro's have any practical use compared to windows for the layman is fucking retarded"
Basic Linux distros are actually way more user friendly for the layman than Windows. Distros like Ubuntu had things like an "app store" and "app launcher" with even fucking docks incorporated way before than Windows (and those things were incorporated into mobile OSes just to cater to the layman). A clean installation of Ubuntu gets you a completely functional desktop with ready to use apps for listening to music, watching videos, internet browsing, basic office applications and a fucking appstore for searching applications instead of looking for .exe files on the internet. In fact Windows 10 had to incorporate things like the app store and automatic driver installation in order to be more normalfag friendly.
You can even install something like chaletOS or ZorinOS if you want an interface similar to windows
f265fa No.14764626
>>14763798
>it's objectively easier thanks to package managers
until your average windows user closes the package manager without realizing it doesn't stay open in the background after having gone through and selected what they wanted after searching through lists for about 20 minutes to an hour.
000000 No.14764631
Linux is too difficult to use for the majority of gaymer retards. It has complicated things like a command line, which is very scary for the typical gamer using Windows.
60f758 No.14764834
6c653a No.14765115
>>14764425
>No nigger is interested in learning a completely new operating system only to find out that it lacks support for their devices
>devices
Linux has superior support for printers, USB sticks, phones, cameras etc. Most of the time they work right away where as windows will need to download and often fail getting drivers or worse, you'll need some 3rd party proprietary bullshit that installs toolbars, all from .exes you download from dank ass websites with a million ads.
>or is physically incapable of running the programs they need
>physically
What? I assume you mean software that's windows only or something. In which case physical hardware probably jack shit to do with it.
>Pretending like linux distro's have any practical use compared to windows for the layman is fucking retarded.
Except it's completely true and you're just spewing what you've heard others say. Nobody even wants windows anymore, that's why everyone's on their phone. On desktop they just want a bigger screen to facebook, email, write up a CV, pirate a few movies and not have any damn viruses, spying or constant manual updates… and for it to be fast. Windows isn't required for any of that and 90% of linux distros with a GUI installer will have everything you need to do all of that shit and more, with the option down the line to go full nerd. Oh and it's almost guaranteed to run faster.
Windows is for graphically accelerated software for professional work (3D/photoshop) and vidya that doesn't work in wine well or at all. Using windows for anything other than those things things means you're a fucking normalfag or retarded, or both.
d86335 No.14765144
>>14765115
>Linux has superior support for printers, USB sticks, phones, cameras etc
>Most of the time they work right away
>Nobody even wants windows anymore
Do you believe the things you post, anon?
6c653a No.14765203
>>14765144
Absolutely. And only because I actually use W7/Arch almost every day. Pick one thing you think is incorrect and explain in something other than 1 line of greentext why it's wrong.
c3093b No.14765499
>>14763751
>Oh, I see. Where can I read more about it exactly?
There isn't much to read from what I remember, it was basically some people complaining that the entire distro was compromised because the developers decided to include as default some software from Amazon. It wasn't really talked about much outside of /g/ and /tech/ because in the real world people are more sane and if they don't like something they just uninstall it. A lot of it was /g/ and /tech/ simply looking for an excuse to shit over it.
>Maybe I'm looking like an absolute moron for asking this but what are the main challenges in trying to get a program that used to work on Microshit running on Linux?
For most productivity tools there are either open source alternatives or they either run on Linux already, for vidya there is PlayOnLinux which is basically a set of game-specific configs for WINE (the Windows compatibility emulator).
>Better but extremely obscure alternatives?
You mean distros? depends on what you mean by better, for 'I just want it to work' Ubuntu and its derivatives like Kubuntu are basically the best from an end user perspective.
000000 No.14765718
>>14762879
Because the windows version has more games and the linux version frequently has shit support. Not to mention most Linux gamers won't install Steam at all because they tend to be much more serious about the "no DRM" thing.
3f2f1c No.14765783
>>14765144
>the OS that only recognizes 5 filesystems has better support for USB sticks than the one that can recognize almost every file system in existance
Try using a USB with F2FS on Windows, then make up excuses about how "FAT is good enough". Speaking of, that's a good way to protect a USB from being read by a random tech illiterate; formatting it with a filesystem that Windows can't recognize.
>implying that normalfags care about their OS as long as it looks familiar to them
24fe92 No.14766705
Proof that RMS is /ourguy/ and Linux /ourOS/: feminist cunts are going after him now for not removing an abortion joke he put in glibc's documentation.
https://twitter.com/sarahmei/status/994010501460865025
7b6e9b No.14766981
>>14760873
What's wrong with just using "save as… "?
b02aa4 No.14769319
>>14755573
there is a 64bit version of XP, but even then 7 is still better due to it having much more support for everyday stuff.
b294de No.14769325
>>14769319
>Windows
>more driver support
8c01dd No.14769356
>>14769325
Doesn't it? If you are a company that makes hardware, the one OS you definitely have to make a driver for is windows. Loonix drivers are usually secondary. Likewise, if you are a company that makes software, the main priority is usually Windows, rarely Mac.
b294de No.14769394
>>14769356
<"Loonix" lol i'm so clever
>implying most businesses don't use open-source software these days because it's cheaper
Why does /v/ attract so many brainlets?
f45535 No.14769417
>>14764787
>>14755670
>>14755573
HAHA EVERYONE SUCKS ITS YEAR OF WINDOWS 10 DESKTOP AND LOVE OF MICROSOFT BEST PRODUCTS!
>>14769325
YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO DOWNLOAD DRIVERS ON WIN10, THEY INSTALL AUTOMATICALLY!
d0b57a No.14769437
>>14764357
>Name one thing that Windows does that your average distro running with KDE or XFCE doesn't.
Play games
6fcade No.14769443
>>14769417
Don't bother arguing with Freetards anon. I will give them credit, they're solid proof that literal retarded can get into GNU/Linux
ca630f No.14770092
>>14769443
Actual GNU/Linux user for 10 years here. I don't give a fuck what operating system people use. It's a vocal minority of hipster teenagers who make their parents use Ubuntu, and 30 year old NEETs who have never worked a job in their lives who spout this stupid bullshit. GNU/Linux has come a long way in the past decade in regards to games support and various problems with the OS itself. It blows my mind that a non-Jewish operating system has come this far, and even with new-age problems like SystemD, I can still settle down and get comfy on Slackware and just not even give a fuck.
One big problem with many GNU/Linux fags that gives the rest of us a bad image is that they act like their OS is an end-all-be-all solution to everything, so everyone should switch RIGHT NOW. I love GNU/Linux, and I implore everyone to switch to it for their own sake considering that Windows 10 is the greatest human rights violation in modern computing, as it has a non-removable keylogger baked into the OS itself, but I digress. I want people to try GNU/Linux because besides Windows' privacy issues, it's just shit, it's the worst operating system ever fucking created. But GNU/Linux has no good video editor still (Blender doesn't count, and Blender shills need to suck a big fat dick.) GNU/Linux still doesn't support Photoshop, which is industry standard (not counting CS6 which works fine in WINE but not natively, and even I hate Adobeshit and I do my art in GIMP but it's a problem for many due to industry standard plugins.) There's also a problem that all fucking file-pickers (not to be confused with file-managers) are irredeemably and irreversibly stuck in 1994 because GTK is a steaming pile of shit, and every browser on earth uses it as a had dependency.
I know nobody wants to read ALL THAT SHIT but tl;dr, you should try GNU/Linux and if you don't like it, I'm not concerned. The user experience on my end is pleasant enough to be a complete replacement for all of my Windows needs in the current year, so you niggers should stop dickwagging. Also the GNU/Linux has no games meme is fucking stupid and has no foundation. I can't think of a single game I like and actively want to play that doesn't run on GNU/Linux except for EDF4.1, and even then I can play it on a console anyway.
>>14769356
With the exception of proprietary graphics drivers, any given release of the GNU/Linux kernel supports well over 20 years worth of hardware baked into the kernel, and the drivers are loaded when detected without the need to install them all. One of the nice things about the GNU/Linux desktop is that the only thing I have to do driverwise on a fresh install is install my nvidia driver via a script from their website.
60f758 No.14770114
>>14770092
wow anon youre not concerned about my win10 usage what a great achievement to write essay about and almost without spaghetti falling out too
2c4b50 No.14770116
ca630f No.14770137
>>14770114
Fuck off. I'm trying to write quality posts to save this irredeemably shit thread, on an irredeemably shit board on an irredeemably shit website. While you're at it, you should check the catalog for all those 4 week old threads on the fastest board on the site, and compare it to how it was even a few months ago. Let that sink in for a second before you continue to make the posting experience worse for everyone around you.
Pic maybe, or maybe not related. We'll see in the coming months.
60f758 No.14770162
>>14770137
no you are not messiah who suffers for our sins writing about gnu/linux anon and marvel of not giving fuck about os is commonly shared amongst people some even dont bother listing some tired arguments about ones they dont like, i'm sorry
ca630f No.14770189
>>14770162
I can't even understand what you're trying to say. Are you a fucking literal continental African? Learn English before coming on our board please.
ac9f99 No.14770199
>>14770092
anon I know you're a gnufag but pls compile your posts before submitting them. :^)
60f758 No.14770215
>>14770189
this is yours board as it is mine and no amount of covering your ears from sad truths and appealing to some kind of imaginary 'our' group is going to change it
537f2a No.14770216
>>14770092
Try krita. I only use gimp for editing due to it. Also Blender is worth shilling as a 3d tool (though not as a video editor wtf?) It's UI Philosophy gives you a much faster workflow once you put in the learning time. The established industry tools like maya can suck a dick tbh.
>>14765144
It's much easier to write drivers for linux for usb/audio on linux. Windows is a good way to reach the suicide hotline.
Now here's what i don't get about linux: Why do most distros still not bother giving some install script that automates the commands for a default install? Would make entry for normalfags much easier. Having to study 5 hours before every new OS install if a fucking PITA.
ca630f No.14770246
>>14770216
Blender is a great modeler. I'm complaining about all the people who told me that Blender was a good replacement for Vegas. I literally had to change my field of profession because I didn't want to use Windows.
Also, Krita is a fantastic piece of software and I'm slowly tempted to go back to it, but GIMP is a really powerful piece of art software after you configure it a bunch and it's really light on system resources, and I got used to it since I was stuck on an X200 for a while, but I have an 8 core desktop now so it might be ideal. I honestly wish Paint Tool Sai 2 would hurry the fuck up and work in WINE, I really like it. Art is just a hobby for me though so I can live with what I have.
0b4fc2 No.14770261
>any system.D linux
>running Steam
>buying games
>+0.22%
i don't know at which of all these should i laugh louder
3f2f1c No.14770271
>>14770092
I use my file manager to copy a filename and then paste it into the picker.
ca630f No.14770282
>>14770271
Yes, and that's not exactly ideal. On the plus side, it's gotten me to name more of my images.
537f2a No.14770321
>>14770246
The only thing i can imagine doing with Blender related to movies is rendering a movie with your 3d models. This works well but it never was meant to do any editor work. I would rather even use the default windows movie maker than blender to edit videos.
For Gimp: Can you do the layer blending options like photoshop in gimp? Tried to fumble with addons but never got happy. Still got a windows box with photoshp just for webdev shit. Making buttons and other small crap is just way faster with blending options.
a9e588 No.14770411
>>14770092
>Blender doesn't count
ca630f No.14770432
>>14770411
Blender VSE fuckign sucks as a video editor. Maybe in 10 years it will be usable. Try using it in the industry. Nobody will give you a job to use it. Also, I'm, all for using non industry standard software if you can get away with it, but Blender VSE is so bad that no startup can possibly use Blender VSE to be efficient either.
dbc24d No.14770452
>>14770092
>even then I can play it on a console anyway
Opinion discarded.
ca630f No.14770465
>>14770452
Not an argument. PS3s are cheap and after modding it I can play 2025 for free.
537f2a No.14770505
>>14770246
Do you know how to get
<- this
in gimp?
ca630f No.14770522
>>14770505
I'm not sure. I've never used Photoshop.
537f2a No.14770537
>>14770522
It's just a feature that adds filters essentially over the respective layer. There were similiar stuff available in gimp over scipt-fu to imitate the photoshop feature but it wasn't as powerfull last time i checked. It's literally the only thing im missing in gimp. Otherwise i could drop photoshop completly. Thought you might know something since you said you heavily investing in configuring gimp.
ca630f No.14770546
>>14770537
It's not something I've specifically delved into. I use GIMP for art, but most of my configuration is in the brush engine and layout.
537f2a No.14770561
>>14770546
Makes sense, you don't need to bother with it then. Use case is just quicker workflow for buttons/layouts in web&print.
70f937 No.14772162
>>14770452
this so much
>i can do everything on linux
>expect that one thing i like
>i use console for that
just install windows at this point
4a73c4 No.14772197
>>14762981
I will never understand why this fucking meme exists. When you get down to it, it shares a lot of the libraries with wine. You really may as well just use fucking linux and run shit on wine.
67f1df No.14772233
>>14764500
>>14763751
It's not finished, but this is my attempt so far on understanding how Linux works and how to use the command-line interface.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ohp7-wnQrL2wEZYm8Tegu-u0fF3uskSb/view?usp=sharing
I could definitely do with some helpful critique.
883194 No.14772587
d27ef3 No.14772590
>Linux will never ever ever achieve success on the open market
>One day some autismo will make an OS that's just as good but not autistic and actually usable for normalfags
>Linux, which has had decades to develop and improve but never did, will be BTFO
883194 No.14772600
>>14772590
>One day some autismo will make an OS that's just as good but not autistic and actually usable for normalfags
One day he'll complete the lord's work
c3093b No.14772683
>>14770092
What annoys me about the shit flinging monkeys who aggressively try and shove Linux down normalfags throats is that they almost always use (and therefore recommend) distros like Arch which aren't exactly newcomer friendly. Most people who I have introduced Linux to liked it because I got them onto Ubuntu or one of its clones, people don't seem to appreciate how much effort Canonical puts into making sure Ubuntu just fucking works since people actually use it in professional environments.
>With the exception of proprietary graphics drivers
Given that AMD drivers are part of the kernel now the only graphics cards you will have an issue with out of the box is Nvidia because nouveau is AIDS, however even the Nvidia drivers for the supported distros are really good because most people who want GPU compute are running Linux and they demand the driver fucking works.
>besides Windows' privacy issues, it's just shit, it's the worst operating system ever fucking created.
I switched to Linux because I was having serious stability issues with W7 on my system ~5 years ago, without changing anything else Debian just worked right out of the box and didn't crash once.
>Also the GNU/Linux has no games meme is fucking stupid and has no foundation.
It can't run the latest garbage of the month like Fortnite which is why people here shit on it.
>>14769417
>YOU DON'T EVEN NEED TO DOWNLOAD DRIVERS ON WIN10, THEY INSTALL AUTOMATICALLY!
All the drivers for my system were included in the install image, I didn't even have to download anything extra.
>>14769394
Companies use Linux on their servers because its more stable, Redhat offers higher guarantees with its service level agreements for RHEL than Microsoft does for its server edition of Windows. The only place that Windows sees use in servers is running VMs for things like Word and Excel.
e12ab8 No.14772698
>>14755573
>>14760264
Steam's userbase majority are Chinese, at least they were a month ago when "simplified Chinese" was used by 52.24% of users.
c3093b No.14772734
>>14772698
Most of the users in China are actually net cafes, quite a few of the big games in China are optimised for a specific generation of Intel CPUs (can't remember which one exactly) since that's what makes up the majority of the systems in the Chinese net cafes.'
3bc817 No.14772845
>>14760218
Archlinux, or, if you know how to use a computer, Gentoo.
>>14760264
Your computer isn't useful to you unless you can control what it does, by definition. Since you can't read Windows source code, nor modify it, it's not useful since you can neither tell what it does, nor change what it does to suit you.
>>14760427
Automatic dependency resolution and a unified updating system for most programs.
You can also modify its components to suit your systems, enabling you to run with older hardware for much longer, and easily customize programs to your needs.
6087d1 No.14772854
>>14772683
I honestly don't care that most of Debian's software is old, only things I really would want up to date are stuff like browsers, games, other user focused applications, and maybe even the DE or window manager, but see this is where GNU falls apart. Package managers are suited to things users don't need 3 versions of, stuff they don't interact with directly often, things like the init, the kernel, the audio stack (at least I hope you don't have to fiddle with that mess too often), etc. But if you want a portable updated binary for some program, GNU devs will freak the fuck out, screech about duplicating a small amount of commonly used libraries (its like 500KB-15MB extra, who gives a shit), and future possible exploits, all while raking in 10 extra dependencies in their package manager that they don't need and using KDE with every Qt library on the planet. This keeps users and normal desktop application devs far away from the GNU world since they don't want to deal with the horrible distribution alternative which are the incompatible and horrible packages and package managers. Its a miracle Peazip and Deadbeef stuck around. Appimages might solve the problem if they become the hot new thing or whatever, but we still need a cross distro package manager that works.
Yes you can compile programs yourself, have fun waiting a week to compile major programs, and you'll be fucked if you can't sort out some dependency or build problem.
957877 No.14773512
>>14772845
Source code isn't the bottom. You don't audit hardware, you still don't hold control. And on the other side most systems you interact with are black boxes. People being the most frequent example. You somewhat can predict behaviour but there is no certainty.
28e947 No.14773558
I have a problem with these statistics. I would be under the impression that more people would use Enterprise LTSB.
3bc817 No.14773568
>>14773512
I'm switching to lowRISC as soon as it becomes available.
I also don't interact with people in person precisely because you can't really predict how they'll react. Computers are far superior companions.
28e947 No.14773593
>>14760244
Well Linux doesn't have what Windows has and likely never will: software and hardware compatibility stretching back at least 20 years. Fact. Nobody has to ask the question: "can windows run it?".
I will just do what I always do: pirate proprietary software. It just works.
957877 No.14773642
>>14773568
it's practically impossible to audit chips. So even if the design is legit - you can't protect against tampering. This is why serious shit get's always airgaped even if money is no issue. It's the only real way to be safe. Of course you still get the benefit of not running intel/amd and thus being out of scope from usual attackers targeting normalfags.
957877 No.14773646
>>14773593
This is absolutely not the case. Gameport is not supported anymore for example. If you still got some high-tech flystick it's dead in the water with 8 or 10.
cdeba5 No.14773710
>>14773593
>Nobody has to ask "can windows run it?"
In fact, lots of people are ask everyday "Why doesn't it work with Windows 10? It used to work on 7"
8531bf No.14773734
>>14772854
flathub.org/apps/details/com.play0ad.zeroad
a38204 No.14773795
>>14772197
>a lot
Possibly, but really nothing recent. Wine cowards has refused to work with ReactOS since ReactOS got sued by microsoft over some dumb shit.
65b705 No.14773815
>>14773593
Can't tell if being ironic or just genuinely stupid/wrong.
f05f97 No.14774658
>All these posts bitching about how Linux is haaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaard
Microsoft Windows is only superficially easy. It has a "retard proof" upper layer to hide an unimaginably huge mountain of redundancy, complexity, and cruft, and God help you if something goes wrong because troubleshooting Windows is performing arbitrary voodoo rituals you found on the internet which only work if the stars are aligned just right. People put up with this on Windows because they're used to it and come back screeching the moment a different operating system doesn't work exactly the same way.
Sure, you can use babby-tier distros like Ubuntu without touching the commandline, this is great for normalfags who stick to their web browser, a document editor, and Steam for installing vidya. It's so fucking easy and hardware compatibility is so good these days (almost everything you plug into a Linux machine with a recent kernel just werks out of the box, no searching the web or inserting a disk for drivers like on Windows) that I'm convinced everyone in these threads who bitches about Ubuntu-tier distros being hard are either genuinely retarded sub-normalfag idiots or tried Linux over a decade ago and assume the graphics card and wireless drivers still suck. Shit, I've even seen normalfag boomers and fucking children use Ubuntu spins without a single complaint about shit not working.
To really take advantage of Linux, you must realize that even babby-tier distros hide much less of the underworkings than Windows and most of it is much simpler (not Plan 9 or OpenBSD simple, but still decent). Everything you do in the GUI and more can also be done through editing simple config files or using a couple terminal commands, and you can find documentation on almost everything through running
man <command>
or looking up shit on the Arch Wiki. Having even a basic understanding the underlying systems instead of treating your OS as a magical black box is a very important step to self-sufficiency and will make your life much easier as you break fre from the bugman mentality.
If you're interested in this, I highly recommend trying something like Void Linux or Slackware. Follow the installation guides on their respective wikis, learn how to update your system, and read about the various components of your system so you aren't completely in the dark if something goes wrong. Steam is easily installed through your package manager, GOG has MojoSetup installers for all its Linux games, and for Windows games there's always GPU Passthrough or Wine (which can run newer shit like Nier: Automata and Titanfall 2 if you set up DXVK) https://linuxjourney.com/ and http://www.linuxcommand.org/ are worth reading too.
f05f97 No.14774727
>>14774658
Forgot to mention Devuan is a decent option too if you want a saner Debian. systemv init may suck compared to newer alternatives, but I wouldn't wish the systemd clusterfuck and its cancerous ecosystem on anyone.
dd8f16 No.14774818
>>14774658
Doing god's work, Son.
957877 No.14774879
>>14774658
I would say the issue is most don't go ubuntu and go memestyle for arch cause everyone says use it despite having no tech knowledge. It's noobs let into the fire. Secondary it's also higher expectations. They get told you can totally customize it from the ground up. So they try that and naturally that comes with a fuckload of pain they ain't used to since they never tried that on windows. But they do then compare their windows usage to the linux usage and naturally they see no work win vs hard work custom arch and get discouraged as they don't consider that they didn't take an equally easy path with linux but got themself into a mess by the adviced choice.
626731 No.14774917
>>14760873
You can use wget on Windows as well.
>use sed to transform the URL to the raw image's URL
There's also a Windows equivalent to do this. But I agree it's easier on Linux
e07fc8 No.14774927
>>14759503
Neither can Stallman apparently.
73ea36 No.14774943
>>14774658
>that image
And the most painful thing is, if you've been using, or God help you, administering Windows for any length of time it is painfully fucking obvious how shitty and directionless M$ has gotten over the years. Fucking Office can't even stay consistent with itself across versions. Just wait for the subscription model Windows/Office/etc. I'll stick with my babby-tier distro, Mint.
65b705 No.14774981
>>14774927
No wonder that lazy oaf couldn't finish his own microkernel.
f05f97 No.14775251
>>14774879
Ubuntu is a decent option, the problem is many newfags get too comfortable with the GUI and never do anything more advanced than installing some .deb packages. Slackware and Void share many of Arch's advantages but with better installers and less cancer.
ca630f No.14776457
>>14775251
Slackware, and to a lesser but still competent extend Void, are actually good distros, unlike Arch which is the worst fucking distro ever made. It has a god tier wiki though.
ca630f No.14776474
>>14772162
>just install windows at this point
I don't have to use a console every day. I'd use Windows if it weren't shit, but it is, so I don't use it.
f05f97 No.14776536
>>14770092
Qutebrowser supports the qt filepicker if you don't mind a keyboard-driven interface.
ca630f No.14776564
>>14776536
Isn't that the vim keybind thing? I always thought it sounded cool, but I'm an emacs fag because vim is too unnecessarily complicated for me (and emacs is only as autistic as you want it to be)
f05f97 No.14776638
>>14776564
It's not nearly as close to Vim as some Vim keybind browsers and plugins, but there's definitely some influence in the default keybinds.
761b5c No.14776780
>>14765115
>Linux has superior support for printers, USB sticks, phones, cameras etc.
How come my keyboard doesn't function with linux?
ca630f No.14776834
>>14776780
How new is the keyboard, and how old is your kernel?
761b5c No.14776851
>>14776834
It doesn't support the extra gamer buttons I have on it
ca630f No.14776914
>>14776851
It's probably nonstandard shit, but it probably still works, You'll likely have to set them up manually like I did with my 24 function keyboard. It's really useful for text editing, I'll tell you what.
f05f97 No.14776922
fc4d7c No.14777032
>China is now the biggest market on Steam according to their survey. Simplified Chinese has increased by +26.83% making their share of Steam's market at 56.37%. That's a huge influx of users from that region, which can easily account for the reason Linux has been dropping recently.
>A large portion of that increase has likely been fuelled by PLAYERUNKNOWN'S BATTLEGROUNDS, which is not available on Linux and is the most played game on Steam right now. There's also rumours of it being banned in China, which has likely caused another surge in people taking a look at it.
Eh, the more things change.
7fe5b5 No.14777220
>>14772432
>furfag
>DUDE, WEED CURES CANCER LMAO
>Australian
1b74c4 No.14777391
>>14772432
>a furry direct links his own dox on an anonymous image board
b08b03 No.14777855
>>14777391
If you dox yourself people can't dox you
ba8489 No.14777951
>>14770137
I appreciate people who take the time to write long, informative posts because that's the kind of posts that make me browse imageboards and the reason why I don't visit any other "communities" online outside of them being filled with normalfags. The only people who'd complain about it are cuckchan crossposters who are used to their one-sentence facebook-tier replies and because of this have the attention span of niggers.
67f1df No.14777989
>>14777220
>>14777220
I believe the correct term your looking for is Cannabinoids which come from the Trichomes of a plant.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1Ck2FmcHjFSBuObKEF54yClyKGTk2qneF?usp=sharing
Fortunately, you don't need to know how it works, it just does.
8659aa No.14777993
>>14755573
> Windows XP 32 bit +0.05%
Why are there more people using Windows XP?
8659aa No.14777995
>>14777951
>I don't visit any other "communities" online outside of them being filled with normalfags. The only people who'd complain about it are cuckchan crossposters who are used to their one-sentence facebook-tier replies and because of this have the attention span of niggers.
Edgetard.
80f1b0 No.14778000
>>14773710
Yes lets tell people who can't use Windows to use Linux. Great idea!
>>14773815
By all means make a list of everything you can't get running in win10 enterprise. I'm honestly curious what kind of obscure shit you guys have that you really want to use.
db81b2 No.14778024
>>14777995
>who are used to their one-sentence facebook-tier replies and because of this have the attention span of niggers.
>Edgetard
That anon seemed to be right.
c3093b No.14778029
>>14773593
>Well Linux doesn't have what Windows has and likely never will: software and hardware compatibility stretching back at least 20 years
I refuse to accept this is anything other than bait, no one can be this legitimately retarded.
60f758 No.14778038
>>14777951
what was the information you gathered from that anon's long post, just curious
ba8489 No.14778056
>>14777995
>edge
Buzzword of the decade together with "toxic".
>this person has negative opinions about the clique of faggots I belong to so he must be "edgy"
>>14778038
I didn't know shit about those specific flaws of Linux like Photoshop not being supported. Of course, I could have found out about that through a google search or something but you can't expect me to do that for every obscure subject in existence. Especially since I wasn't interested enough in it either, but interested enough to read his post and learn something I did not know before reading it.
67f1df No.14778086
>>14777391
>>14777855
Do you honestly think someone like me has any friends? What exactly do I have to lose?!
3f2f1c No.14778099
>>14772233
>emacs serf the internet, chat with people online, ect.
>-nc (no cobbler)
67f1df No.14778124
>>14778099
Which is what I'm doing right now. What's your point?
0ccb7f No.14778202
>>14769443
>Free
>tards
That doesn't even make any sense, that's like calling pirates cucks or calling niggers white.
0ccb7f No.14778221
>>14765203
>>14772845
>>14776922
>Using arch
>Using a shitty version of Gentoo
Correct your mistake.
ba8489 No.14778404
>>14778202
"Freedom is slavery" is the main ideology for leftist cucks so it's no suprise they're trying to make liking free shit a bad thing.
d9fb15 No.14778415
>>14778404
Leftists love free shit and justify shit being free all the time.
45a219 No.14778444
>>14772162
>>14770452
Actually using Linux if you're gaming on console is smart decision. Its smarter than allowing botnet to watch your ass all day every day and you still don't even play games on it, but on another device.
c0c361 No.14778452
actually using Linux for gaming is the most excruciating experience you can have using computers
2136d8 No.14778512
>>14778452
KVM with gpu passthough makes it painless once setup. You're back to windows in a vm of course but it still better due to isolating what windows & the games can do from the vm to your system.
>>14778415
It's not "free" anyway. You pay with your time. Nothing is free.
faf8e2 No.14778801
>>14770271
I just drag and drop it from file manager.
f07dd7 No.14778820
>>14778801
Fun fact: you can click and drag into the file picker aswell.
1b74c4 No.14778833
>>14778086
Anonymous image board m80, you're supposed stay anonymous. If you're going to ask for critique here follow the etiquette or you might as well of used a forum.
To make matters worse, you attempted to direct link d*scord, making you look like a huge newfag.
f05f97 No.14778891
>>14778221
>everyone who references the Arch Wiki is an Archfag
Arch's only saving grace is its wiki.
07c4ab No.14779080
>>14760264
>who the FUCK would have a 32 bit version of winblows 7
I know a girl that was running W7 32bit on her PC and laptop. She thought they couldn't run 64bit OS.
fe3e34 No.14779915
>>14760491
I knew a linux fag like that. Constantly complaining about how shit and slow windows is when the only pc that started shitting itself magically was the one he was working on.
He spread viruses to all nearby windows pcs as well using his external drive. When I told him about it he'd claim it was actually me as he'd "scanned his HDD with kaspersky so it was clearly clean".
He later "blocked harmful radiation from wifi by painting it with leaded paint". I'm not even making this shit up.
761b5c No.14779921
>>14778801
>that giant fucking useless bar at the top of the window
Distro's really need to modernize their WM's to not take up so much fucking screen space. It's always all of the worst aspects of OSX.
8bc860 No.14780219
>>14778512
>pay with your time
This might've been true 20 years ago, but there are tons of Windows-like distros to choose from these days.
a20010 No.14780243
>>14779915
>He later "blocked harmful radiation from wifi by painting it with leaded paint". I'm not even making this shit up.
What the fuck.
>>14779921
That's GTK3 for you.
f4c7cf No.14780606
>>14780219
If you go convenience like ubuntu you pay with a working but suboptimal OS and having to get rid of the tracking incase you care. Either you invest more time for a better result or you pay with a worse system. No free lunch either way.
85dc4b No.14780935
>>14780606
>but suboptimal OS
Care to be more specific?
Most people can deal with stock distros just fine and that further customized needs take more time to set up is a moot point.
761b5c No.14781087
Can anyone give me the quick rundown on setting up GPU passthrough for VM's? I last checked it a few years ago but it seemed too complicated for my windblow brain to handle at the time. It looks like it's come a decent way though and might be simpler now, but I'd like an anons input in case I'm missing something.
34dfd2 No.14781167
>>14777993
Running older games that were designed for Win9x/XP but have problems on Win 7 and up.
761b5c No.14785034
>>14784943
It was pretty hilarious when he released a video about why he wouldn't be running for president, and throughout the entire thing left out the fact that he's not even an american.
e2675f No.14785928
>>14772432
If this is your social media, you're a huge faggot.
4ae93c No.14786010
>>14760277
He is speculating.
Pretty sure Linux Mint uses an older kernel and they might hold back security updates until they believe the updates to be stable.
Also their website got hacked, and the downloads for the bootable ISOs were replaced with backdoored ones.
719cdd No.14786025
>>14772432
I don't even want to call you a faggot (which you are, Jesus Christ), but you're obviously very confused as to where you are. It's better that you either lurk for a long fucking time until you learn how things work, or just leave.
4ae93c No.14786048
>>14760218
If you must ask, then I answer Ubuntu or Ubuntu Mate.
03f2df No.14786116
>>14786010
Mint does allow you to update your kernel to the latest one. It's been a year since I've used it, but I'd assume it's still an option.
>>14760218
>>14786048
I'd say some variation of Arch or Gentoo with an installer if you're too lazy to do it yourself
8bc860 No.14786168
>Arch got SystemDicked
>Gentoo is still a pain in the ass
>Void's creator abandoned the project
Is the Linux dream dead, lads?
57ec1d No.14786174
>>14772197
wine is absolute garbage, reactos is binary compatible with all windows software and could even be used to run linux software natively.
366aec No.14786248
>>14786174
Don't use phrases like could until it's functional, anything with linux is a could as long as someone puts that effort into it.
4ae93c No.14786300
>>14786168
Here's hoping Void survives.
10be3c No.14786432
>>14763123
I haven't done that because I just don't have the hardware. People should talk about it more, though. I think this may become unnecessary in a few years, as virtualization improves, but VMs are clearly the way to go for gaming. As soon as the VM can take complete advantage of the hardware that it's running on, you will be able to play anything on any OS, with negligible difficulty.
>>14786168
Just install fucking Gentoo already. If you can't do that, give Devuan a shot. I don't know, there aren't that many distros without systemd at this point. Slackware doesn't have it either. I haven't used it too much, but as far as I know, you can avoid the dependency issues if you use pkgsrc (NetBSD's independent, modular package manager).
Overall, don't avoid something just because it requires more knowledge. If you do that, you will always be stuck using garbage and you will never have real control over your system.
0d7056 No.14786463
>>14786168
>abandoned
You mean
87319f No.14786565
>boot windows
>ram usage: 2GBs
That alone should be enough of a reason to switch to loonix.
I bet it's 100MB actual OS and 1.9GB CIAware.
d0e2e3 No.14786750
>>14759565
>2018
>Win7 usage drops
>WinXP usage increases
How?
>>14772432
Is this some bait to harass and dox some furfag? I hope it's bait and not some massive furfag looking for attention.
>>14786565
Windows is also just pretty bloated. I used this guide a few years back to cut down on resource usage. It's probably outdated, but I'm on Linux now so I haven't felt a need to find an updated image.
4b3120 No.14786858
>>14786168
Heres a list of systempozzless distros sinse you're too retarded to goto distrowatch:
Gentoo
Slackware
Artix
Puppylinux
Any fucking BSDcuck distro
Devuan
Good Life Linux
4Mlinux
CloverOS Gentoo for lazy people
void
ANY of the above would be ok.
If you seriously want a arch baby distro, Artix would be the place to go.
I would highly recommend against it though, sinse it still relies heavily on arch repositories/aur which can still contain elements of pozz.
Best distros to move to in my opinion would be gentoo You can use clover if you want or Devaun.
But really, any of the above would be better then systemdick.
f74b8e No.14787422
>>14786858
Slackware is the best beginner, intermediate, and advanced distro. It's the most """normal""" GNU/Linux distro, and it's whatever you make it, while out of the box, comfy and easy to use if you set up with a desktop environment like XFCE.
39171f No.14787489
>unironically running Linux on a gaming computer
>the value of not having a 'normalfag OS' is greater than actually playing games
c3093b No.14787514
>>14787489
The only things I miss out on by not using Windows is the flavor of the month garbage like PUBG, most decent Windows only games can already run on Linux using WINE/PlayOnLinux.
41274b No.14787757
>>14786168
Use Void or Artix.
dc1d53 No.14789400
>>14786858
>Clover OS
>recommending a cuckchan distro
f74b8e No.14789449
>>14789400
I hear it's not that bad. complaining about an easy to use distro because muh 4chan made it is fucking retarded. This is why 8ch is dying.
d0b57a No.14789454
>>14787514
Oh really? WHich ones do you run?
0c36fb No.14790164
>>14789400
It's literally just an install script.
2c702f No.14791018
>>14789449
>8ch is dying because an anon wants to keep cuckchan fags and shit off the site
89e4ff No.14791036
>>14787514
>The only things I miss out on by not using Windows
its the fucking japanese pornographic games.
dba6cd No.14791076
>>14786750
Maybe they prefer being hacked by the Chinese vs the NSA?
f74b8e No.14791134
>>14791018
8ch is dying because the mods are faggots, and the userbase is elitist as fuck to the point where every opinion someone disagrees with is part of some boogeyman. Look at the catalog. There are threads from a month ago still up, which is normal for a niche but active imageboard like Lainchan, but not for the 2nd biggest board of the big 4chan replacement. /v/ has gotten slower by many magnitudes, and so has /pol/, and every other major board. Mark deletes and bumplocks every thread he doesn't like (especially threads that shit on Nintendo for any reason,) while letting shit threads run rampant. I can't count how many times /s8s/ has come here and made shitposting threads that last for literal days before being noticed by mods and deleted, while my attempts at making a Resident Evil 4 thread a month ago were immediately shut down because a mod didn't like the game.
The largest board on the site, /pol/ has at least 80 bans a day, many of which are permanent because it's run by fucking faggots who hate free speech, and considering this site was founded on free speech, it's quite a disgrace. 8chan will die a slow, and painful death, as it has been, and we will join the ranks of failed abortions like 7chan in due time.
03f2df No.14791140
>>14791036
>implying 2d dx9 games are any trouble for wine
f74b8e No.14791151
>>14791140
He's probably referring to obscure errors you can commonly get for games that depend on a Japanese locale. It's actually quite an easy fix, but this kind of information doesn't spread too well so a lot of people are clueless about it and everyone assumes WINE is shit.
39171f No.14791154
>>14791134
>especially threads that shit on Nintendo for any reason
I don't get this meme. Threads like >>14759502 have been circulating around for an eternity, and they're 100% BING BING WAHOO shitposting.
f74b8e No.14791162
>>14791154
Exception and not the rule. I've seen many threads get bumplocked for shitting on Nintendo in the past few months. Also, I'd like to hear you repeat to yourself the "shitting around for eternity" part again, as this addresses the other main concern of my post.
f74b8e No.14791171
>>14787489
People who use GNU/Linux don't do it because they're hipsters (outside of dumb teenagers,) they use GNU/Linux because Windows is fucking irredeemable dogshit, and is physically painful to use on the daily. Name 10 stellar must play games that don't work in WINE, or aren't native. I'll wait.
d039d0 No.14791178
>>14791171
Give me a list of games that don't work on WINE and I'll assess.
f74b8e No.14791187
>>14791178
https://www.winehq.org/
Here's the database of program compatibility with WINE. Do note, that it's a little outdated because of the recent development of shit like DXVK allowing for really fancy games like Nier Automata to be played, so a lot of the games that are listed as not working might work, they just haven't been tested yet. (It should be noted that due to this development, WINE has shot through the roof in the past few months, so it's a great time to be a GNU/Linux fag.)
39171f No.14791195
>>14791171
>People who use GNU/Linux don't do it because they're hipsters
I'd argue this is exactly why an average Linux user is using it.
>Windows is fucking irredeemable dogshit, and is physically painful to use on the daily
That's not exactly an argument; what's "irredeemable" and "physically painful" about Windows 7, other than the fact that it's made by Microsoft?
>Name 10 stellar must play games that don't work in WINE, or aren't native
Name 1 game that runs as well through WINE/PoL as it does on "Wangblows". Just one. DX10 is still somewhat of an issue for Linuxfags in 2018. That's embarrassing.
03f2df No.14791198
>>14791151
Oh shit, I forgot how much of a shitshow Windows region settings, and anything other than the Latin alphabet usually is on computers.
>literally just one line in a cfg file to change regions in wine
Huh, that actually is easy.
>>14791178
Literally the only games I own that aren't likely to work in wine are ESO and Skyrim SE.
4ae93c No.14791348
>>14791195
I use Linux because playing with computers is more of a novelty to me at this point than video games are, although perhaps I enjoy it for the same reasons. The artifical challenges you overcome in video-games are comparable to the challenges you can intentionally subject yourself to by trying to learn the ins and outs of something like Linux. The difference being that when you succeed in a video game, you typically don't gain anything from it. When you overcome a challenge you've set for yourself tinkering with Linux, you gain a little bit of competence and slightly broaden your understanding. I could go on for quite a while about why it might be stimulating for you to try it.
Windows 7 is bad because it gives me no choice of how to interface with it. It forces me to find, download, install, and configure all the programs (and drivers) I need from random websites on the internet instead of cleanly packaging them for me in a centralized repository, and when I need to update those programs I have to do it all over again.
I have to worry about disk-fragmentation. I have to worry about malware. Every time I reboot following a system update I have to wait for windows7 to configure itself, or whatever the fuck it's doing. Just what IS it doing by the way? I have no way of knowing because nothing about the operating system is transparent to me.
I despise vendor lock-in. I don't like knowing that at some point, such-and-such a version of Windows will stop being supported and I'll be forced to do some sort of upgrade, or that hardware I buy in the future will not be operable with the version of Windows I'm interested in using. (i.e. newer Intel/AMD cpu's arbitrarily not being supported on win7).
I want to have knowledge of how to use an operating system that is truly general purpose. A number of years ago I bought a Raspberry Pi 2 and loaded it up with emulators and roms. I had not really used Linux significantly prior, and none of my knowledge about using a windows PC was applicable.
Using Linux alone, I can find my way around my Raspberry Pi, my desktop, my laptop, and whatever other computers I need to.
My two cents.
39171f No.14791412
>>14791348
Okay, that's fair. I fully understand why you'd want to use Linux over Windows if tinkering with or customizing your OS is a priority.
I use my home PC for little more than playing games and shitposting, so I'm more interested in maximizing compatibility and minimizing performance hits.
f05f97 No.14791511
>>14791195
>Name 1 game that runs as well through WINE/PoL as it does on "Wangblows". Just one.
Source games historically ran better through Wine than they did on Windows due to some architectural quirks, as did WoW and some other games I can't remember at the moment. Right now I don't own a single game that doesn't run well in Wine + DXVK and it makes me question why I even have a Windows partition in the first place.
>DX10 is still somewhat of an issue for Linuxfags in 2018. That's embarrassing.
Direct3D and OpenGL are very different APIs and translating one to the other is much harder than you'd expect. Right now there's more focus on DX11 because more games use it than DX10 and the two APIs are similar enough that working on DX11 emulation retroactively makes DX10 emulation easier.
8ca32a No.14797955
>>14791412
So why not have a partition/hard drive for Windows to game on and another for Linux to funpost?
40ed04 No.14798011
>>14797955
at that point why not just have two (or more) computers?
one for pc gayman, and the other for using the internet/general computing
82e83f No.14798020
>>14791412
as windows 10 and windows 10-2 becomes mandatory for office programs i wonder if there will be another shift
bee7f8 No.14800075
>>14798011
That works too, although depends on how limited in cash/space you are.
82e83f No.14802909
i don't use steam on my linux installs at all but i still play games i bought off steam, i wonder how much it will change when people are forced into win10 extended service
82e83f No.14802945
>>14800075
it used to be more expensive to have one computer to do full vms, it's not anymore since everything is 8+ cores and kvm plays so nice
f74b8e No.14802951
>>14802909
"Slowly, over the next five years, they will force-patch Windows 10 to make Steam progressively worse and more broken. They'll never completely break it, but will continue to break it until, in five years, people are so fed up that Steam is buggy that the Windows Store seem like an ideal alternative. That's exactly what they did to their previous competitors in other areas. Now they're doing it to Steam. It's only just starting to become visible. Microsoft might not be competent enough to succeed with their plan but they are certainly trying,"
82e83f No.14802977
>>14802951
who is that nerd
if my had my way i'd buy everything of itchio and similar store fronts (or even better directly from dev/pubs)
650ff7 No.14802980
>>14791171
>Name 10 stellar must play games that don't work in WINE, or aren't native. I'll wait.
all my Chinese pornographic 3D games,
checkmate, penguin.
82e83f No.14802988
>>14802980
all the eushully games work well in wine
>3d
>stellar
i couldn't name 10 for any system
df8fd3 No.14802989
>>14791171
This is what mentally retarded "people" actually believe.
f74b8e No.14803001
>>14802980
They should work just fine if you don't forget to set up Jap locale like an idiot.
>>14802989
Not an argument. Quit spewing ad-hominems and name 10 games.
0ea0dd No.14803135
>>14755573
>installing proprietary trash on your GNU+Linux machine
These people need to be gassed.
0ea0dd No.14803150
>>14791195
>what's "irredeemable" and "physically painful" about Windows 7
It's slow and clunky as shit. I honestly never realized how bad Windows was until I used GNU+Linux exclusively for a few months and then installed Windows again to play a game. It made me wonder how I managed to deal with Windows for so long.
f74b8e No.14803156
>>14803150
>It's slow and clunky as shit.
Don't forget OS degradation. I've never had a Windows install last more than 6 months.
3b946a No.14803183
>>14791171
>People who use GNU/Linux don't do it because they're hipsters (outside of dumb teenagers,) they use GNU/Linux because Windows is fucking irredeemable dogshit, and is physically painful to use on the daily. Name 10 stellar must play games that don't work in WINE, or aren't native. I'll wait.
Are you pic related?
f74b8e No.14803361
>>14803183
Not an argument.
39171f No.14803470
>>14803156
>I've never had a Windows install last more than 6 months
Yet normalfags with no IT knowledge managed to keep XP running all this time? Damn nigga, you must be dumb as fuck.
9b8cb5 No.14803665
Linux really draws the hypocrisy out on this board. Windows is like mega-steam.
41274b No.14803719
>>14791171
Yet you sound like one. Well done.
830d5c No.14803729
>>14803665
>not pirating windows and disabling all the phone-home shit
fdd8dc No.14803771
>>14803729
>implying you can actually disable it
f74b8e No.14803789
>>14803729
That shit's built into the kernel. You can't disable it.
41274b No.14803838
>>14803470
Say that again when you worked in a computer repair shop. You have no idea how retarded normalfaggots are. They think that a PC that has to boot for 5 to 10 minutes long is normal, especially back in the before SSDs where common. Most of them don't even think all bloatware and other wares that gets installed with other shitty programs is an issue and that it is just a part of computers being computers.
f74b8e No.14803855
>>14803470
Windows, especially post XP, degrades very quickly. Windows 7 on my SSD mind you. has slowed to a crawl while the only thing I did on it was browse imageboards and play Quake/TF2.
67f1df No.14804150
>>14791134
I got banned for 88 years from /pol/ for saying Trump was a Jewish puppet.
a3dcf2 No.14804603
>>14803771
>>14803789
>implying you can't actually disable it
Just keep hitting it until it stops spying on you. Computers like to act all smart, but they're all talk. They are weak.
b412d9 No.14804625
7c43c0 No.14804634
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14804603
>>14804625
First that is India and not Africa, second the company was not paying their employees.
http://archive.is/nUid0
a3dcf2 No.14804663
>>14804634
Thanks anon, I've changed the filename.
683736 No.14804666
84383b No.14804809
>>14772845
Isnt Gentoo a meme?
How much coding knowledge do I nees to get into Linux?
And where do I learn it?
fe3e34 No.14804974
>>14804809
>How much coding knowledge do I nees to get into Linux?
Fuck all. You can just install a "user friendly" distro like Ubuntu or one of it's many flavors and never even have to look upon a terminal.
If you do want to learn to work with the terminal just jewgle whatever you need at the time you need it. After you looked over the man page of course.
And even then you're not really coding. If you want to learn coding, look up some tutorials for whatever language suits your fancy.
7f8266 No.14805092
>>14791134
I miss 2015 8ch. The downfall started when the autist from the second and following waves came in and started accusing everyone of being reddit.
67f1df No.14805130
>>14804974
That's what I've been trying to find out: https://drive.google.com/file/d/1Ohp7-wnQrL2wEZYm8Tegu-u0fF3uskSb/view?usp=sharing
>>14804974
It's annoying when you ask people where and how to learn Linux (Bash, installing 3rd party software, tidying up your computer, ect). But then they just tell you to Google it. 😣
7f8266 No.14805157
>>14804809
>How much coding knowledge do I nees to get into Linux?
Zero. Why would you think you need to?
2ed337 No.14806079
>>14804809
>Isnt Gentoo a meme?
It's good if you like waiting forever for your stuff to compile so that they're marginally faster as you've tailored them to run on your system more efficiently.
If you wanna just install generic binaries in seconds, stay away from Gentoo.
03f2df No.14806117
>>14806079
I've heard that's actually pretty useful for servers and that quite a few of them actually run Gentoo. Is this true?
2ed337 No.14806120
>>14806117
Sure, but I'd recommend OpenBSD instead for servers.
f74b8e No.14806228
>>14804150
I got banned form /pol/ for 88 years because I said Tarl Warwick was running for governor of Vermont, which is actual news because he is. They used to be the top board, but now thay have about 700 less UIDs than /v/ does because they fucking banned half their userbase for not conforming to the circlejerk.
>>14804809
>Isnt Gentoo a meme?
It's a meme, but it's a good generic UNIX like system. If you like FreeBSD you'd like Gentoo. I don't care to put in the effort to compile everything, so I use Slackware, which is what I'd recommend most people use, beginner, intermediate and advanced, as their first and last distro.
>How much coding knowledge do I need to get into Linux?
Absolutely fucking none. The plus side is that almost any distro of GNU/Linux worth it's salt is going to have most things you need for programming out of the box, but you don't HAVE to know how to program. If you want to program though, grab a PDF of a language, and use a text editor and a compiler. I use Emacs + gcc, but you don't have to go that far as a beginner.
>And where do I learn it?
You google all your problems, if you have any. GNU/Linux isn't hard. It's easier than Windows, it's just that you've trained yourself to put up with Windows' bullshit all your fucking life. It's called baby duck syndrome.
The protip for troubleshooting in GNU/Linux or doing anything via the command line, almost every single CLI command has a manual, and you can access it offline with man programname. If you want more info on what man does, type man man. All the information is there, but nobody tells anyone to read the fucking manual on this site and it pisses me off. Here's a reference pic for some of the most useful commands, and even then, do realize that cli is mostly for automation, system administration, and maintenance. You can do almost everything through the GUI if you want to, it's just that people who use GNU/Linux realize that the CLI is really fucking useful, so it became a meme through voluntary usage.
>>14806120
The BSDs are fantastic for servers.
f74b8e No.14806239
>>14805130
>It's annoying when you ask people where and how to learn Linux (Bash, installing 3rd party software, tidying up your computer, ect). But then they just tell you to Google it.
That's what it's fucking there for. Stack overflow and the Arch Wiki (which is a fantastic wiki everyone should use even if they don't use that piece of shit distro) exist for a reason. I don't know how many Windows problems I haven't googled. The difference between Windows and GNU/Linux is that after you learn the system, you can always at least diagnose your problem, unlike Windows problems, which, good luck fixing if the obscure forum post's hacky solution didn't help.
972fb2 No.14807141
>>14804809
Gentoo is very much a meme, t. has actually used gentoo.
It has its uses in poorly supported architectures and its ease of porting, but otherwise it requires too much learning and active maintenance to be any useful.
Ubuntu has its heavy share of problems but its user friendliness makes it the only real choice for a starter distro.
f74b8e No.14807217
>>14807141
>Ubuntu has its heavy share of problems but its user friendliness makes it the only real choice for a starter distro.
Salix is the best beginner distro.
a0a678 No.14809761
>>14791134
Then make your own board and spam in it with vpns and proxies until it reaches the suggestion list. I hate all the mainstream boards too, but the niche ones that boast the impressive number of 6 active users don't exactly help me get involved in their community. You don't even have to advertise it, at some point it gets so high up in the rankings that people will naturally flock towards it, just look at shit like the /hisparefugio/ or /christian/.
>>14805092
It also helps if you frequently look around the claimable boards and find somewhere you can stay and use in place of the old mods, IIRC /pol/ itself got coopted because the original BO went AWOL and Codemonkey just gave it to his best bud Ahmed once people started advertising the fact.