/v/ - Video Games

>NES Games with online support

Shitfest aside I'm curious.

>>14755495

Ehhh I wouldent say shitfest. Underwelming more. Nothing really wow inducing. Save back-up is nice. Price is cheap at least. Guess it will depend on which games are on offer.

>online NES game

for what purpose

>>14755506

Balloon Fight and Dr.Mario with online might be fun.

>>14755510

underwhelming describes nintendo pretty well these past few years. This is the first time a console is switching from free to paid service mid-run, and I'm curious how that is going to go.

>>14755500

Netplay with NES games could be fun, but considering that they're trying to sell an online service and not just NES roms it's a real letdown. I know that they won't do anything to fix Splatoon 2 even though it's got huge networking issues since launch. It's kind of a slap in the face if they're not even going to run dedicated servers and still have the tickrate so low.

Also, keep in mind that their shitty save data system will be superseded by a mile when the custom firmware stuff for the switch comes out - which they have no means to fix on any system until they have a new board revision released, and even then it will only apply to new consoles - plus it's free.

>>14755518

In my opinion, they've been doing pretty solid for games, but kind of a mess for everything else.

>>14755519

A retard that has never used Kaillera before.

>paid online

>networked multiplayer emulators have had for a decade

>cloud saves you get for free on steam

>free targeted ads

At least I can take my cardboard online now to share with my soyfriend.

>>14755530

To the faggot mod who locked my thread, my thread was about the E3 leak in particular, NOT Nintendo's online service which this one is about. Two entirely different topics which don't warrant being in the same thread.

I hope you choke on your hot pocket.

>>14755528

>In my opinion, they've been doing pretty solid for games, but kind of a mess for everything else.

the games have been so-so. They finally stopped playing it insanely safe with their first party releases but only time will tell how this pans out. So far there's been a shit virtual on boxing game, Arms, two Splatoon games which I'm not sure if a sequel could be justified here, a middling open world zelda game, and a solid 3D mario. They've got some humps to get over still. I want to see more games come out before anything, although I'm probably gonna be getting a Switch because it's been hacked and the horizons are looking pretty good on the thing.

>>14755500

fag, you've never heard of netplay?

Why the fuck did the other thread get locked when it was clearly talking about discussing the other Nintendo E3 leaks?

>>14755539

Arms doesn't have longevity but it's a decent game. Making a sequel to splatoon was in lieu of just calling it a port, so they've made a bunch of new maps as well as including a lot of the old ones with improvements to make them flow better. It's got a whole new horde-mode that's plenty of fun, and a whole new single player. The Zelda game can be hit or miss, and Odyssey is pretty decent. They definitely have more humps to get over, but considering the thing is only 1 year into it's lifespan it's doing fairly decently - what did the PS4 and Xbone look like one year into theirs? I'm asking legitimately, I have no idea. Smash is coming out this year, I'm assuming at E3 they're going to throw down more info on more of the killer apps that people are probably looking for before buying the thing. Also, good one, the OS name for the Switch is actually horizon.

>>14755537

>>14755557

Because out of the two images you posted, "Nintendo's Online Strategy" is underlined in one and the other is a tweet about Nintendo Online, so I figured that was the majority of what you wanted to discuss. I'll unlock it, my bad

>>14755568

It was underlined because that was what proved the leak correct. The leak stated Online information would be released today with more information revealed in September, both of which confirmed today. It's done so so people don't write it off as a spam thread of no relevance.

>$20/yr

>Splatoon 2 is P2P

>tickrate is abysmally low

>considering giving up on shooter class weapons entirely due to had bad connectivity is

>disconnects, disconnects everywhere

>>14755586

Why defend something that's already in every way perfect?

>>14755500

If you don't spend 20 dollars per month the shit emulator will not work.

>>14755550

Even /tv/ allows that.

>>14755598

>The console warps

>Doesn't connect to the internet for shit

>Shovelware

10/10 Dogfucking should be legal

>>14755563

>…doesn't have longevity but it's a decent game.

could safely be used to describe a lot of Nintendo games lately. I don't want decent games, I want great games. I'm interested in the platform for copies of things like Umihara Kawase, and I believe there was another game out there that escapes me. I want to see if Octopath Traveler turns out well, and Mario Odyssey is the only other thing I care about.

>what did the PS4 and Xbone look like one year into theirs?

Not well, but the PS4 now sits atop everything with a solid library and very frequent new releases that are more than worth someones time. Plus lots of support from small developers in Japan and in the West.

>Smash is coming out this year

It's gonna be Brawl 3 and I'm not interested in that.

>Also, good one, the OS name for the Switch is actually horizon.

funny.

>>14755610

I personally don't play online so these services are of no interest to me, but if you're actively paying for PS plus I know you get quite a few games for free, many of which aren't very good but there's been some solid releases up there.

The new Smash better have an amazing online mode if I'm gonna have to pay extra for it.

Fucking "For Glory" is a joke.

>>14755610

least with sony you get far better "Free" games every month while some months are shit they put out pretty decent ones occasionally.

where soytendo gives you want the same emulator nes snes games they've been giving you across ds/3ds/wii/wiiu and switch

>>14755611

>Smartphones with emulators made in the last 8 years

With shit touch controls

>>14755655

>using shit profiles for NES RGB

the sky is supposed to be blue

>>14755653

>implying people use the touch controls

>implying Nintencucks smartphone app with VC games will be any better than what you get for free.

Why are Nintensoys so tech illiterate?

>>14755630

I suppose so, but it really depends what you're looking for. I feel like they've been trying to get more niche with only a few all-rounder games (those being Zelda and Mario), which might not pay off if they're not what you're looking for. I will say, compared to the Wii U, the first year for the switch has been very strong. I also wouldn't put the Switch past it's growth phase considering how much the nips love the handheld shit, plus all these indie devs are saying that their games are selling more on switch than any other platform. I'm hoping the lethal league sequel makes it over.

>>14755634

I've heard good things about how ARMS does it's matchmaking and all, but it's got a tiny playerbase. Time will tell.

>>14755655

I'm willing to bet that the golf tribute they stubbed in an update is the base for their NES emulator this time around, you might want to look into how that one came out rather than comparing it to their last try (which they've been berated over).

>>14755685

Dolphin already runs on the switch (If you run linux through the SD card). I don't think it works very well yet, though. We might see a native port of it once the CFW comes out.

>>14755676

>considering how much the nips love the handheld shit,

I heard this same thing when the 3DS and Vita were just coming around. A lot of people said this, and what ended up happening was Nintendo would release Pokemon, Mario, Animal Crossing and Monhun and no other games would sell - so Japanese devs released everything on the Vita instead and the games ended up doing a lot better which is why they kept supporting the Vita.

It's all a waiting game right now and my rule has always been to go where the games are. I only know the switch has a large developer base. Japanese games are key.

>>14755717

>Some people take issue with the VS palette since it makes the image so yellow

It also makes the greens bright green, which can be seen in my picture and in >>14755655

>>14755724

Yeah it basically over saturates the image, which some NES autists take issue with.

And that comparison I posted isn't my RGB screenshot, it's just to show fucking shit Nintendo's own NES emu is for virtual console. And no, you shouldn't have to fucking tweek the settings for your TV to make it look acceptable. Nintendo was just fucking lazy in figuring out how to scale the image to modern TVs

>>14755732

>Miyamoto himself said Super Mario Bros was the first game he designed with a blue sky. It was intended to be seen that way.

If that's the case, then so be it. Point I was trying to make was that NES emulation on VC isn't worth a fucking penny they ask for.

>reselling fucking NES games over and over again

This is by far the most infuriating bullshit this goddamn fucking company does. Where the fuck is Super Mario World with online co-op? DKC series with the same? Fucking F-Zero? FUCK YOU NINTENDO WHO GIVES A SHIT ABOUT ONLINE PLAY ON THE FUCKING NES

>>14755732

I like the colors in #3

Could of been worse, at least it's the less scummy and cheap of the 3 companies. However having to pay for internet you already own is fucking stupid and kikey, and Nintendo can go eat shit for joining in on these terrible business practices.

>>14755736

>Point I was trying to make was that NES emulation on VC isn't worth a fucking penny they ask for.

I agree, it's weird because the SNES emulation looks quite a bit better. NES is weirdly darkened and I don't think there's ever been an explanation.

>>14755741

2 and 3 are good, 3 is the best imo.

>>14755745

>You're forgetting that the PC-10 has a weird piss yellow palette as well.

yep, it's pretty ugly. Looks nice on the actual cabinet with the tinted glass cover, and on the low TVL shadowmask tube they used, but on better displays or processed through as framemeister it looks pretty nasty. It's just the old way of doing things.

>VC4&1

cool but I'll stick with the PS4 versions.

>The Switch has been out-selling the PS4

not just in Japan, I think world wide. PS4 is winding down as the next generation is kicking in. The statement is thrown around a lot but I think people aren't factoring in that the switch is replacing two Nintendo systems at once, so there's gonna be a big convergence there.

>Also, it doesn't help your point by telling everyone you're a fucking genius because nobody cares and you look like a cunt.

I'm not gonna be coy about how deep I am into these things, I do that in real life, not on imageboards.

>>14755761

>PS4 is winding down as the next generation is kicking in

Sony has stated PS5 "won't be ready for awhile". Many are speculating we'll hear something by 2020 at the earliest. Expect this gen to get dragged out like gen 7 did.

>>14755772

Keep in mind the PS4 pro only came out in 2016. Seeing as the PS3 and 360 made it Seven years, and Microsoft followed up with their half-step I think it'll be a while yet.

>>14755761

If you need to inflate your ego by telling anonymous strangers on the internet how smart you are you have bigger problems then "playing coy about how much you know." Just because you went on craigslist and bought a PVM doesn't make you an expert on everything.

>>14755799

I do documentation, diagnostics and repairs on old 15khz monitors, I think it makes me an expert on these things.

>>14755772

I'm thinking 2020 will be the year, 2021 the latest possibly. Depends on if Microsoft moves something or if the Switch sales see a huge jump. 2020 is still pretty soon, it's only a year and a half away. The PS4 was announced the same year it came out in, so I imagine we'll be seeing the same thing happen with the next system too.

>>14755853

That's luminous vivid aquamarine, which is mostly green. Nigger I do color grading, trust me I know colors.

>>14755853

That's aquamarine you blind donkey

>>14755813

I stand by my statement, even if you claim to know a lot about something, nobody will care what you have to say if you preface it with a vague statement lording over them for saying something you disagree with. You can have a discussion without sounding like a jackass.

That said, I'm not sure 2020 is a reasonable figure, 2021 maybe. The new Xbone came out last year as well, and they're presumably going to want to milk those for as long as they can. I get the feeling we might be seeing more of these incremental steps rather than one big jump every five years or so.

>>14755873

>nobody will care what you have to say if you preface it with a vague statement lording over them

considering the response to it, I'd say a lot of people care.

>The new Xbone came out last year as well, and they're presumably going to want to milk those for as long as they can.

>they're presumably going to want to milk those for as long as they can.

>as long as they can.

they aren't getting a lot of success here. Sony gave up the title of "le most powerful console" and is just sitting on a pile of really successful exclusives while the details of the xbone's sales have been awkwardly hard to obtain. Safe to say last place has been decided.

>>14755510

>tfw amerimutts don't know what cheap is

I pay that much for half a year of 10mbps internet. Quit getting robbed

>>14755688 (heiled)

But nobody's said anything about Sony or Xbox being better. In fact, whenever this subject has come up I've just seen people shitting on Paid Online as a whole or lamenting that Nintendo's become just as jewy as the competition.

>>14755904

Not another one, they're bringing the PS4 remaster to the Switch.

Nintendo…always two steps behind the game.

>>14755992

Her hair is more middling between green/blue. It's more blue than green but only by a little bit. Strong arctic blue. Just because there's a bit of a fuzzy area between some colors doesn't mean the colors they're meant to be don't exist. Miyamoto designed SMB knowing the sky would be blue because when the PPU sent the composite signal to the monitors at the Nintendo office, he saw blue. The composite color scale leans either towards purple or blue depending on the NTSC decoder, and it appearing purple is more a development in modern digital NTSC decoders.

>>14756038

Green, both of em.

>>14755695

Hopefully CFW brings something similar to wiimmfi for the Switch. Nintendo would be shooting themselves in the foot if they continued to push paid online since everyone and their grandmas would be modding their Switches for free wifi.

>>14756070

Dota 2 already has a monthly subscription service http://www.dota2.com/plus

Future isn't looking too bright

>>14756073

it would be hilarious if it actually happened.

>>14756053

They are indeed both more green than blue.

A fun trick you can do is that if your monitor has bad enough viewing angles, just tilting it a little can make them look incredibly blue or green.

>>14756088 (卐)

Damn you're right, that's crazy how much it changes the color. Don't women have better color perception than men?

>>14756081

Wow, holy shit.

>>14756070

Companies were a mistake.

>>14755500

Just use an emulator.

>>14756184

>Yes that's true, although to what extent I don't remember

How much of that is innate, and how much is a result of training due to having a much higher pressure on them to pay attention to colors when applying makeup, dressing themselves, etc as a form of mate attraction. If men couldn't distinguish between subtle differences in shades, then all that effort would go to waste, meanwhile they don't have to be able to articulate the differences and proficiently be able to identify all those colors/shades to know what they like.

>>14756196

Basically, men evolved to be better hunters, and women evolved to be better gatherers. That's a massive oversimplification, but there's a biological basis to the differences between the sexes, it's not just socialization.

>>14755515

Gets people to buy those simple, less replayable NES games that have been ignored and had no interest in buying the first time due to other better games/sequels.

It's like why buy the simple NES Tennis on (now closed) Wii Shop Channel before when you could spend double to get Mario Tennis 64 with more content/features? Or buying a different Tennis series? Now with NES Tennis having online, it gets people slightly more interesting in it again.

>>14755601

I always assumed that an eShop with virtual console purchasable games was coming?

Then again I think Nintendo has realized that there is a whole bunch of there back catalogue that they just can't sell. Why buy F-Zero SNES when you could get the better F-Zero X? Allowing people to play these games for a limited time (regardless of quality/content) is probably going to drive people (especially those who haven't played them before) to at least try the games out regardless if they buy them or not in the future.

>>14756226

>That's a massive oversimplification, but there's a biological basis to the differences between the sexes

Yes, but does that actually apply specifically to the topic of color acuity, and to an appreciable degree? And if so, is there an actual recognized mechanism to account for the increased color perception (like having more cones, or a special adaptation in the cones, etc).

Sounds shit.

>>14755500

Same shit as emulator, would only care if they rebuilt the games and built new multiplayer modes for them, something stupid like 100 Mario where you race 100 other people to the finish in SMB3, also wide screen and fix flickering.

>>14755506

>super mario bros. 3 online multiplayer

Why?

>>14755992

I didn't say you could screencap my posts, fag

>>14756035

If it's that cheap, why not get something faster though?

>>14757187

>If it's that cheap, why not get something faster though?

Because ISPs in the US are a monopoly. The meshnet can't come fast enough.

>>14757208

Because internet companies wany you to abandon using your computer for internet and instead use your cell phone. My neighborhood still has copper wire but for some reason they upgraded to 4G instead. The moment AT&T slapped a bandwith cap on DSL we switched to cable. Same bandwith caps but cheaper with shittier services, more frequent blackouts, and faster speeds. AT&T's solution for faster speeds here is to have you buy a tethering plan to use your phobe as a WiFi hotspot to connect your computer if you want faster speed.

>>14755992

I read that as -Chan instead of Cyan.

>>14756073

Or we can find a way to tunnel LAN games, so we can play those online for free.

altNN servers when?

If the Nintendo Network on the Switch is only used for Matchmaken it shouldn't be too difficult to cook up a server emulator.

>>14757440

Same here but in Western Europe, I get a shitty 9mbps over ADSL on a good day and no Internets during Thunderstorms as all the copper wiring here is from the 1950s with 90% of the population above the age of 70.

Said copper wiring is also why there's no Cable Internet available in the entire district even though the local cable ISP headquarters are some 3km downtown, the 4G Network is top notch though not that it helps much considering 4G+DSL hybrid plans aren't available for some reason.

I'm still disappointed but less so than previously.

Also are the NES games streamed or do you actually download them?

>>14757964

>If the Nintendo Network on the Switch is only used for Matchmaken it shouldn't be too difficult to cook up a server emulator.

Hopefully, the packets aren't encrypted.

Just four months of Splatoon 2 left until I go back to the first. Or just stick to my backlog.

>>14757973

Like that's gonna stop pirates from getting that NES multiplayer goodness.

>>14758116

Retard that you are, I am interested if the games would be downloaded since the switch is a portable system.

Virtually any consumer electronic device can run nes games these days.

>>14758133

Since you can play them offline, I'm gonna assume they are downloaded.

>>14758057

Not gonna happen unless Shiggy himself or some equally high ranking exec is caught doing drugs.

>>14755688

I don't pay for any of this shit, but Sony appears to give you free games that were made within the past 3 decades. Both companies are shit lickers trying to scam money out of people for nothing, but Sony at least makes an attempt to build a pretense of value.

Can you repost the underlined links? Seeing as how the image got hotpocketed

>>14758255

I think the fundamental difference here, is that nintendo believes that its fans place higher value on the older games, wereas sony believes that their fans place higher value on new, or newish titles. With all of the circlejerking that goes on everywhere about how good NES, SNES, GB, GBC etc. games are, of course nintendo would decide to give them out instead of new games. It appeals to the actual nostalgiafags, the pretentious hipsters, and the people who want to see what the old games were. If people claimed that and nintendo games released in the past few years were good, those would likely be the games that nintendo gives away.

Except they wouldn't because the rate at which nintendo consoles accumulate, and discard of games is far slower than the sony ones, so nintendo would likely still give away old games. The only alternate timeline I could see around this, would be if people placed as much, or more, value on games from the later consoles as they do the earlier ones, in which case nintendo might've given away games for the N64, or the gamecube or something.

>>14758100

I'm pretty sure they will shut down the Wii U servers once paid online goes up.

>>14755655

They wanted to make it authentic like you were playing them back in the 80s on CRT you filterbro!

>>14755853

Nigger that's fucking yellow.

>>14755559

Welcome to the wonderful world of top kikery where you have to pay for everything at least twice in order to use it.

>>14755566

This is Nintendo we're talking about they've had consistently shit online despite all the systems they've made with natural support selling like hotcakes for over a decade.

Being optimistic or having any sort of demand of quality at this point is stupid.

>>14758355

Get your eyes checked.

>>14758421

And the people who said that things were better on Xbox Live because the people online had to pay for it so it got rid of all the kids were fundamentally wrong anyway.

There's no point in needing to make an online service like this cost money other than the fact you can nab more shekels from idiots.

I'm not surprised at all that Nintendo is absolutely fucking retarded with their online service. At least they're only charging 20 bucks for this abortion instead of trying to get away with more like everybody else. It's like even they know nobody wants that shit so they make it look good by doing one thing right.

That does bring up something though. How much do servers cost to run anyway? I know Nintendo just does simple peer-to-peer stuff, but I'm assuming everybody else isn't retarded and has dedicated servers. Like, what's the cost of industrial servers for vidya?

>>14758467

>they make it look good

>doing one thing right

That's an interesting way to describe attempts to get me to pay them for my existing internet connection.

>>14758467

>I'm assuming everybody else isn't retarded and has dedicated servers. Like, what's the cost of industrial servers for vidya?

That's pretty naive if you don't think everyone's being a turbo jew, the only servers are for matchmaking, which is extremely cheap.

>>14758500

I mean comparatively. It's like a bird shitting on your shoulder instead of your mouth.

>>14758548

Okay, then how cheap is it? Like, is there a good place to look up this sort of thing? I have to find out how modern games are developed from fucking computer engineers because nobody else seems to know shit about it.

>>14758559

A server costs as much as the computer costs to run it for a day combined with the money they already pay for a business internet connection, so at best it's a dollar a day, more than likely less.

Unless they've got something big coming this is going to bomb. They just don't have the games to support it. The only one that's primarily an online game is Splatoon and the connection issues are so bad that people aren't going to be willing to pay. Smash isn't likely to come in time to save the launch, and even if it did lots of people would be perfectly happy only playing it locally.

>>14758618

Alright, I assume you could run thousands to millions of quick match making on a couple servers, seems cheap. Of course Nintendo is retarded when it comes to online so they probably have some weird system that costs ten times as much and does less than everyone else. I still can't fucking get over their titlekey system, what a fucking joke. Oh god what if they have a titlekey for the paid online.

>>14758629

I really think Nintendo actually wants people to play locally. Which works fine if you live in Japan or go outside ever. Not so much for your average /v/ user, but a lot of people hate multiplayer games or the Switch anyway so who gives a shit.

>>14755992

What concerns me more are the arms.

>>14759270

Those eyes and lips are doing something to my dick.

Why not for free? Like seriously, how could they fuck that up? You're already paying for the console and the games.

That's how the PS3 sold most of their units last generation. The internet-multiplayer was for fucking free. Great selling point no matter what marketers would tell you.

>>14755610

Cheaper than an exorbitant ripoff can still be a ripoff anon. PS3 and Vita run online multiplayer services free for their lifetimes, Sony still made bank.

>>14762780

>Vita

>made bank

I find it funny that they have the family plan and expect people not to abuse the plan and cut its yearly costs to 1/8, though I guess the fishmouths will probably not even think of that, if not gladly insist to pay full rather than game it. That said I am very mad that there will be no virtual console, or would be if I could not just set up a wiiu/wii/vita/pc/3ds/android to run pretty much all nintendo games to date. except kirby tilt and tumble as it was intended but nintendo wont release that on anything either

>>14755601

My concern is will they nerf other regions like netflix, allow you to store a copy on the console for portable use or defeat the purpose of it being a portable console, or remove games from the catalog.

>>14758421

>PSN used to be free and work just as well as Xbox Live.

Thats because it had less users or had the publishers use their own servers. You are right it is a racket though, but its a racket for psn and live now because those free games most people own or have no intrest in except every so often the rare game, and I actually calculated the costs of the "free" games if everyone stopped buying the games and only used the psn/live games microsoft and psn would have a net loss and angry publishers. But they dont because the games are generally already owned by the people who get live/psn.

>>14755610

I can play online for free on a pc

>>14755653

What are usb controllers?

I'll be a little glad when it has paid online. Splatoon 2 fucking pisses me off but I can't stop playing it. I'm not paying to be pissed off though.

>>14765081

>wanting to pay for online

Cuck.

>>14756746

>>14757187

There's an option of 50/100/250 mbps for 4/5/10 usd. I download games while sleeping, download movies while watching other movies or browsing 8ch. I've spent a couple of hours on 8ch today even though I have nothing to download, no point in more bandwidth unless it's for free, because I would have downloaded BDrip either way. Meanwhile internet providers in america have already stolen hundreds/thousands of dollars from each user and are pushing for bullshit laws to steal even more.

>>14772221

That's pretty expensive in my opinion.

>>14775540

Meanwhile, I work at Walmart and some asshole went to our Switch display, bent the lock off, and grabbed our consoles and jumped out the door today. Shitsux.

Control yourselves Nintenyearolds

>>14756204

>oh hey are those greens supposed to look the same, maybe fake people out into thinking they're colorblind?

>take the image to a sampler and the two dark greens and the two light greens are discrete shades.

Fuck.

>VC

Why the fuck would I care about that, when I'm just going to install CFW, throw some emulators on it, and have access to the entire NES library + Romhacks + ReTranslations + Experimental shit that was never officially released. All for free.

The problem with Nintendo offering the service is that they really can't offer much (if anything) in the way of defining third party games for the system due to licensing issues. Even with their own stable of first party games, they're apparently unwilling to offer everything they can - even though it wouldn't cost them anything.

So what's even the fucking point? VC was better, even for hyperconsumer buyfags, because it offered third parties a clear incentive to put their more popular NES titles out there - since they'd get a cut of the sale.

>>14776012

At least you don't work at gamestop where I'll end up getting a switch for like 50 bucks thanks to a little creativity.

>>14757964

What the fuck kind of country do you live with that shitty line? I know that feel too well.

>>14764722

Family plan will be restricted only to one Nintendo Switch unit. Just watch.

>>14764774

Don't be surprised when Valve requires all Steam online games to require a Steam subscription service to play in about five years. By then I'll switch to Linux and distribute my games with no Windows support if that happens.

>>14776012

Sounds like a typical nigger. Nintendrones are too weak an obese to have the strength to break a lock like that.

da fuck do yall expect from nintenfags? of course they're defending this shit. At least this gives more people a reason to install hax and spit in the face of nintendo

>>14755992

You're describing Loki's fallacy, a reference to a myth where Loki jewed some dwarves by agreeing to have his head cut off, but lawyering his way out of it because he argued that it was impossible to decide where his neck/body ends and where his head begins. Color is similar; there is a distinct difference between colors, and just because you've set artificial goalposts at "green" and "blue" doesn't mean those differences magically go away.

>>14780208

*Officially

The goyim fans only care when it's official.

While this sucks and I don't like it one bit, there is the upside where if they release the more interesting "competitive" nes games, like warios woods and yoshis cookie, they will see a resurgence in play because its "official" and "free". This happens sometimes whenever a older fighter that never saw online play obtains it somehow like in a rerelease. Nintendo is a bunch of Jews but at the very least this might make some lesser known multiplayer titles a little popular for awhile.

>>14776733

I would not be surprised, but I cannot make the call until its out.

Another question: What games on market will be affected by paid online right now once it releases? When paid online releases which aspects of these games will still be free and which will be paywalled?

>>14760090

It was the only console with free "internet" access, and seeing as normalfags eat that shit up, so they were losing shekels by not milking them.

>>14755699

>I heard this same thing when the 3DS and Vita were just coming around. A lot of people said this, and what ended up happening was Nintendo would release Pokemon, Mario, Animal Crossing and Monhun and no other games would sell - so Japanese devs released everything on the Vita instead and the games ended up doing a lot better which is why they kept supporting the Vita.

You kind of have the individual facts right but drew all the wrong conclusions from it. The only things that really sells well outside of mobile in Japan are the big name established franchises, which on handhelds means Nintendo IPs and Monster Hunter. Nothing sold well on Vita, its just managed to carve out a nice for the ultra otaku games, so if you were making some low budget loli waifu game and aren't expecting lots of sales you just stick it on there. Sony also had better dev incentives, especially if you were also making a PS3 game.

>>14755630

>with a solid library and very frequent new releases that are more than worth someones time.

Wait never mind, just go back to resetera.

>>14755610

There is simple reason why it still sucks. All of these services could cost user 0$ a year.

And this is why piracy on the Switch will be rampant: Nintendo online services are useless and hackers can do much better.

>>14786276

>What games on market will be affected by paid online right now once it releases?

All of them. This is why I expected them to scrap the idea. I know the average consumer has been trained to pay for these online 'services' but Switch owners have had a year of free online Mario Kart and Splatoon, are they really expecting people to accept they now have to pay to carry on playing those games? Maybe I am giving people too much credit.

>>14755611

Anyone who is serious about emulation (ie not just play them for 10 minutes at the train station) knows that PC or a laptop will always beat whatever Nintendo or Sony can do.

The main draw will most likely bee the Nintendo Netflix-style service of old ROMs where they hopefully add more to the library. However Nintendo ~might~ will go overboad and lock everything fun behind paid online. Now the question is can you play old games offline? Otherwise it'd defeat the point of a portable system.

And you can forget about buying each game individually. You have to pay for the online service or no NES games goy.

>>14755495

>$20/yr for P2P networking in splatoon 2

Wait, is it seriously P2P?

>>14797454

>Wait, is it seriously P2P?

Pretty much all games across Nintendo/Xbox/Sony run Peer to Peer. The only platform with a reliable dedicated server setup is Xbox One, and that only applies across the board to first party titles. Third party games are still a mixed bag - sometimes literally, like Destiny 2 which is a hybrid of Peer to Peer and Dedicated Servers. Even Sony's first party titles like Uncharted 4 and TLOU's multiplayer are peer to peer.

Why would Nintendo be any different?

>>14755495

Nintendrones will defend this.

>>14755495

It's ok when nintendo does it.

$20 a year is less than a cup of coffee a month.

>>14775540

>/tv/ maymay

But bing bing wahoo started as part of a Quentin comic.

>>14776012

that sounds more like Nigtendos rather than Nintenyearolds, anon

reminder to boycott nintendo

I personally haven't bought anything from them since around february last year

>>14818875

If someone wanted me to pay for coffee cups when I already pay for a coffee fountain in my house I would be pissed too.

>>14820109

Have they released anything good since then?

>there are people who will gladly pay a premium to use netplay that's been standard in emulators for fifteen years with the added burden of targeted ads and friendcodes

This new generation never ceases to amaze me.

>>14831319

>won't pay for quality

Ninty's servers aren't free fag.

>>14837011

>implying

>>14755516

We can play those online right now. Boot up Retroarch.

>>14798369

Is it actually peer to peer or is it "peer to peer" that Call Of Duty fags complain about, which is actually just a server hosted on one person's console.

>>14780345

>there is a distinct difference between colors, and just because you've set artificial goalposts at "green" and "blue" doesn't mean those differences magically go away.

My argument is NOT that differences don't exist, just that when one person describes a color, you can't be sure what color it actually is unless you see it for yourself. If Miyamoto said the sky was blue, we can't say for sure that he considers the purplish version blue or not. He might, he might not. It's NOT impossible to discern whether it's blue or purple for ourselves, but it's impossible to know what Miyamoto thinks unless you ask him. That's not a fallacy unless you can read his mind. But if we were to ask Miyamoto, we'd get out answer and successfully "cut off Loki's head", as it were.

Loki's fallacy doesn't really apply to my green/blue example either unless the story went: "Should i cut here?" "Yes, you got it right, good job". The goalposts I have set are not arbitrary, 00ff00 is the purest green a monitor can display, and 0000ff is the purest cyan. Cyan is one of two distinct colors considered blue (although I suppose I should have specified cyan specifically just to be safe). 00ff7f is almost directly between green and cyan and therefore anything more green is greener, and anything with more blue is bluer. The color I chose is significantly more green than that, so anon got it right. He cut off Loki's head.

>>14848748

I should add I no longer believe it's likely the sky was meant to be purpleish after reading >>14756050. But the idea that you can't guess what color it should've been by his words alone still stands as it was the technical aspect of the NTSC decoder that convinced me.

>>14756555

This won't answer your question, but is pretty relevant. Color acuity is handled (mostly?) by the X chromosome, of which guys only have one. It's why women are much less likely to be colorblind, since they get two draws in the genetic lottery.

>>14755495

Sounds pretty good to me actually.

>>14837011

They were until now, and they were still getting loads of money back then.

>>14855679

i bet you also like bing bing wahoooooooooo

>>14755853

That's obviously green.

>>14866232

>>>/tv/

I'm a little late to this party, but what exactly is stopping the owner from taking the MicroSD card out of their Switch and copying it to their PC as a backup for their savedata?

>>14755610

It's a far sight better than it's competition at the moment, but it's still cancer and should be 100% free. Luckily, because there's absolutely zero reason to connect a gaming device to the Internet other than with the 3DS to use FreeShop, most people who actually play video games can circumvent this.

I can't believe so many of you fell for paid online. We joke about Jews monetizing air but that's in our near future isn't it?

>>14831319

Me too fam, me too.

>>14873922

There are worse things than paid online.

>>14755610

>Cheaper services

>Services that don't fucking work

Alright, lets consider some of the library with Online gameplay:

>Mario Kart 8 - free on the wii u

>ARMS - does anyone even like this game??

>Splatoon 2 - the only game even /v/ doesn't completely put down

>Sonic tag racing - looks ok, i guess

-Sushi Striker - seems like a game that's doomed to die out before the online plan even kicks in

-Payday 2 - The 2nd worst version out there, that'll be 50 bucks goy, plus 20 for the service.

>DOOM 4 - Piss poor port

>Mario Tennis Aces - Demo is laggy as fuck

>Super Bomberman R - Nobody plays this online

>Fortnite - I'd be surprised if they could even get that running at 30fps consistently

>Ay yo lets go pikachu - completely lobotimized version of a game boy game from 1999

>Fighters - Dragon Ball Z, Blazblu Street Fighter, Street Fighter, Street Fighter, NIS presents touhou Pokken, nothing worth a shit here

Wow, such a great line up, i'm sure people will be lining up to give them money hand over fist for the ability to play these gems.

>>14755601

>All the classic games you'd want, on the go, for only $20 a year

Without going to get into the free shit nigger mentality; this is just fucking NES games, it specifically mentions Nintendo Entertainment System, and NOTHING ELSE, so there no reason to think anything else but NES is coming. Even if they add online to it, who in the FUCK wants to pay 20 bucks to play GOLF for the fucking NES, online or not. This might be a selling point if, say, they were offering N64 or Gamecube games with online, shit like Mario Party with online and an actual fucking userbase would probably be a huge selling point, but nope, here's TENNIS asshole.

>>14793709

>What is still up in the air is if they will get Switch ports. And how inferior those ports will be. Take Ys 8: it'll be 30fps on the Switch due to hardware limitations.

Isn't NISA doing the switch port too.

>>14895238

Honestly, you could cut out pretty much all of those, since the only thing people are going to care about doing online with is Monster Hunter XX, which is, while still better than World, still one of the shittiest entries in the franchise to date, and on top of that available on the 3DS with free online anyway.

>>14895238

>>Super Bomberman R - Nobody plays this online

its also coming to steam/PC

Why is this thread still being bumped?

>>14895238

Honestly I'm just gonna get five years worth for 100 bucks and not have to worry about it. Yes paid online is shitty, but if cloud saves and free games make up for it then I'd say it's worth the small fee. Additionally they're sure to add extra shit to the service, and I already paid 200 just for proper storage, might as well get my money's worth. I just hope they add a universal online mode for local multiplayer modes.

>>14896288

>steam/PC

Is it getting an actual physical release, or just that stupid digital Steam shit? If there's a physical disc for a PC release of Bomberman, I will be on that shit immediately.

>>14896313

>if cloud saves and free games make up for it

They don't, especially when you could just CFW it and backup your own saves manually while pirating everything.

>>14896318

>Is it getting an actual physical release, or just that stupid digital Steam shit?

probably the latter, but couldn't you burn a cracked version onto disk?

>>14896327

It's more about the business practices I want to support - I'm vehemently against the digital push and want to encourage companies to release good games on physical media without any need for Internet connectivity whatsoever.

>>14896338

>>>/neoFAG/

>>14896288

>its also coming to steam/PC

Why though?

>>14755500

How would that even work?