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the short stories are good reads. the novels on ciri are plain retarded for the most part.

Fuck the Skellige deck, Northern Kingdoms best deck.

They gave up on the main story towards the end completely.

Witcher 3 was shit, same with all the games

Love the series. Books are OK, with the short stories being the best ones.

>>14715541

Yeah but Geralt likes the mystery. I definitely wouldn't choose her. I'd pick Shani. But Geralt is clearly meant for Yen.

>>14715541

This, yen is your average pretentious tumblr hoe, triss gives a fuck enough not to be a bitch while yen is the lil immature princess

>>14715463

All 3 are pretty good (and flawed) games in their own ways, though 1 is fairly hard to appreciate in current year since it aged terribly.

>>14715497

A man of taste.

>>14715541

Its because Yen gets shit done but she is a ends justify the means kind of girl. So her killing that grove in Skellige to find Ciri understandably angers the locals and Geralt, but was the only option they had.

>>14715536

The Witcher 2's intro blew my mind the first time I saw it.

Is gwent any good if you don't care about the Witcher series and are just looking for a new card game to play?

>>14715655

I still don't get how Gwent works.

>>14715541

>Yen's entire approach to Geralt is to use him and keep things from him

What do you mean? When did Yen use Geralt? I can understand if you mean the Djinn quest, but you can refuse it and she doesn't even get that bitchy. The rest of the time she needs Geralt to achieve the mutual goal of finding Ciri at any cost, as quickly as possible.

>She shares absolutely nothing unless she has no other choice.

Which is proved to be the right approach, when you see the Witchers in Kaer Morhen's reaction to her remedy for the curse. It's likely that they wouldn't help her at all, or waste time on other methods to lift the curse.

>Triss meanwhile shares and is open with Geralt

Don't remember her mentioning that she'll become King Tancred's advisor, and leader of the Conclave and Council of Mages until after you help her, and even then it's only revealed if you romanced her. And if you refuse her quest she immediately becomes miffed.

Come on matey, I went with Triss in both TW1 and TW2, but she seems much more sly in this one.

>>14715792

>only Yen fan

Nope. Yen is best girl.

>>14715655

I really like Gwent but haven't played the stand alone. From the W3 version against NPCs it seems it will be fun against real people.

>>14715666

You just have to play it a few times and then it clicks.

>>14715763

I felt she was sly in every iteration from 1-3 Triss was manipulating Geralt from day one, its why i always preferred Shani.

>>14715792

It does, but it also feels like the one where he doesn't learn any lessons at all and continues on this path until his body or luck finally fails him.

>>14715792

Went with her on my second playthrough, after getting the Witcher Ciri/No Romance on my first run. It really seems like it'd be exactly what Geralt would want in this situation.

>>14715836

I really wish there was more content regarding the time spent with Triss. Hard to imagine Geralt or Yen not confronting her. Shani is best girl, but it makes sense why Geralt can't be with her even if they both want it.

>>14715836

What do you mean? The Yen ending is Geralt and her fucking off somewhere away from it all. With the expansions they retire in Toussaint to run a vineyard. Alone is still on the Path and Triss will be Geralt doing some contracts and showing up as Triss' partner while she plays politics again.

Its been awhile but i remember the ending being him and ciri heading out on the path hunting monsters and him going home to yennefer. With neither of them wanting to be involved with politics.

>>14715863

>Shani is best girl, but it makes sense why Geralt can't be with her even if they both want it

Fucker left monster hunting behind for Triss why the hell wouldn't he do the same for Shani. The fuck Geralt.

>>14715918

>Fucker left monster hunting behind for Triss why the hell wouldn't he do the same for Shani. The fuck Geralt.

Even if he would, Shani is a regular human, she'd age and expire way before him. Not quite the pleasant outcome.

>>14715965

It's not like he's immortal. Plus, you really think he would want to be stuck with the same woman for more than a human lifetime?

>>14715976

He's actually functionally immortal he can't get sick and he ages slowly. The only thing that can kill him is physical injuries and the only ones who can actually inflict those are monsters. Well monsters and the occasional lucky peasant.

>Plus, you really think he would want to be stuck with the same woman for more than a human lifetime?

Geralt believes in true love so unfortunately yes.

>>14715965

Spend time with those you love, Shani has Triss and Yen beat.

Would've been better with turn based strategic combat just like every RPG except Diablo clones.

I played 1&2 now I'm on 3 and I normally don't say this but it's one of the few good Openworld games I've played.

>>14715541

Triss I choose over yen any day.

>>14715463

that's ironic because the game aspect of witcher 3 is the weakest and shittiest part when it should be just as important as the story and everything related to that. Trust me I played 200 hrs of it

>>14716399

also the million of treasure marks on skellige open sea. None of these things has any story to tell, they aren't fun to do, they're worthless collectables and I have no reason why they were put there. But the sheer amount of them is simply a negative, it makes the game worse, even if it's technically just "optional content"

>>14715497

>not just rolling Nilfgard and face rolling with those elite archers

>>14716485

> Nilfgard deck

> with "arrow to the knee" archers

I'd rather not TBH.

>>14716413

The shit floating in the sea in Skellige is a pain in the ass. If they'd made some treasure maps with locations where ships had sunk, and they had you dive to the bottom so you've gotta drink the Killer Whale potion to survive, that would have been good simply to break up the "these are some floating barrels" shit.

>>14716413

Skellige felt like shit altogether. The setting/culture didn't make sense. On one hand Skelligers are supposed to be friendly and hospitable, yet they're also rapists, murderers and slavers. Fuck these cunts and their shitty islands.

Would've been better if the game wasn't open world in my opinion, it just wasn't well made. It was still the best RPG I've played in recent years, but that's because RPGs lately have been fucking garbage.

>>14717020

>Skellige felt like shit altogether.

It's the first area in the main questline where you can't progress by walking in a straight line across a big field, so I welcomed it. Their "open world" really wasn't a great idea.

>>14715541

saved your gif commander

>>14717020

I really loved Skellige. It felt like what Wind Waker should have been, with actual islands with actual things to do on them. And the music was amazing.

The culture is a mix of Irish and Viking, where you're family once you're "adopted" but since so many clans are warring with each other being family with one clan means you're marked for death in the next field over.

Also I really wanted to bang Cerys. With her, combined with Triss, and Shani in HoS, I'd have a redheaded trifecta.

The open world idea is shittily done though, with arbitrarily leveled enemies acting as gates for certain areas. BOTW handled it better with coloured tiers of enemies instead of just having ghouls in one area that are a 1HKO and then uber ghouls in another area a short walk away that will rape your face and then eat your corpse, and in BOTW the difference in tiers weren't that bad because the higher tier enemies only started showing up later in the game (not sure what exactly triggers enemy advancement in BOTW, some say it's how many you kill, some say it's dungeons/shrines completed) and when the harder ones do show up they have better gear you can loot.

Wow neo-nu-new/v/ has shit taste

>>14715497

My gripe with Gwent is that the Northern Kingdoms deck has almost as many spy cards as Nilfgaard. Despite Nilfgaard being reputable for deception, nearly all the Nilfgaard spies cost more against you when you play them. It just feels like they are two takes on the same faction and the Norks are stronger. I don't know if they fixed that in the standalone TCG but it just felt like it wasn't even worth trying to play anything else in the W3 version. Scoiatel might work against a weak enemy, Monsters is basically useless even with a really stacked deck, and Skellige is so luck based that you might as well flip a coin instead of play a game of Gwent.

So is there a good combat mod yet? I'm not gonna play it until there is.

>>14717200

>I'm not gonna play it until there is

no one gives a shit

Let's get this started

>There are people who actually picked Triss in any of the games

What the fuck.

>>14717287

No one gives a shit

All open world RPG's has bad combat.

>>14717409

DMC and NG are not RPG's. DD combat is not better than TW3 combat.

>>14717445

>DMC and NG are not RPG's.

Where did I say they were you halfwit?

>DD combat is not better than TW3 combat.

Why are you on this board with opinions this wrong?

>>14717345

Witcher had bad combat when it wasn't open world too, checkmate

I'm not sure what makes people hate W3 so much? I mean it's not god's gift to man but I haven't heard a legit non contrarian view point that's well constructed.

>>14717553

>I'm not sure what makes people hate W3 so much? I mean it's not god's gift to man but I haven't heard a legit non contrarian view point that's well constructed.

It's one of the few games that made me believe that there are shills of a unique sort who actually are paid to attack a game instead of promote it. It's certainly not out of the realm of possibility. Companies like Intel are famous for paying for negative press against AMD, and certainly AMD is no angel but that just makes this an apt comparison. I forget what major game may have been coming out around the same time but it's not like there's concrete proof of certain suspects, otherwise it would be easy to point to them.

This game received a ton of nonsensical flack when it was coming out. Whatever undeniable flaws it had were used to amplify criticism. All the more ridiculous when it was obvious how none of those flaws were dealbreakers themselves. That said, Witcher 3 is definitely a flawed gem.

>>14717611

>I wished Siegfried Appears in Witcher 3, Would have liked him and maybe a group knights help me REMOVE ELVES and Battle of Kaer Mohren

I would have liked to know what his take on his knights who went rogue would have been.

>>14717620

if you made him Grandmaster he gets a minor mention only

@7:55

>>14717445

I don't particularly like DD combat but it's still better than TW3's combat.

>>14717611

I'm sad there weren't more quests to blunt some knife ears in TW3. CDPR couldn't even get Iorveth in TW3, so Siegfried never stood a chance.

Anyone know if there are hidden scenes/encounters in TW3 if you transfer a save from TW1 to TW2 to TW3? Talking about stuff other than the obvious choices which can be simulated. Played the games with huge gaps in between them, so I couldn't import a save.

>>14717691

IIRC the only stuff that has any effect is the stuff that you get questioned about at the start of the game. Nothing from TW1 affects anything in TW3.

>>14717702

Pretty fuggin disappointing.

So, any good mods for TW3? Particularly ones that make it harder? I went through the entire game with only the Attack power potion to speed up fighting the damage sponge enemies. I was looking at W3EE, any of you goyim tried it?

>>14715655

I'm enjoying it, but updates will be pretty slow/nonexistent during the next ~6 months, because they are focusing on getting out of beta by the end of the year.

It's also the most generous out of all the f2p card games around.

>>14717553

>I'm not sure what makes people hate W3 so much?

It's very popular. People nitpick it to death if it were some niche title with modest sales.

>>14717864

It's true. If this were a first-time title from a bunch of nobodies it would be /v/'s new Dragon's Dogma-esque boner about "OMFG this underappreciated gem doesn't get the attention it deserves why can't modern AAA devs do this" shit.

>>14717863

Triss ending is the best ending. You go part time, taking on contracts for sport and to keep your reflexes sharp, and you get a redhead who does manage to show affection and trust, even if she isn't perfect, and who won't die like a mayfly on you.

Although an ending where you take Ciri and start a new witcher school would be preferable to all that, with Triss as the hot teacher in the magic arts.

>>14717863

>Untrustworthy

According to TW2, she dies while trying to revive Geralt during the Rivian Pogrom. Dunno what more you want as a proof of trust.

>Triss accepts input

Like what? The only thing that comes close is during the last phase of her quests, where you choose to endanger the whole group of mages, or leave 2 people to certain death. And it comes off as her being indecisive and poor at planning.

>Geralt

As far as Yen knows from her cozy place in the Nilfgaard dungeons, Geralt has no amnesia and is fucking her best friend for about an year.

>Muh information

Seems legit, nobody likes, nor trusts her. It's likely nobody will even do what she says if they know what she will do to achieve her results. Once again, look at the Witchers' reactions to finding out they absolutely have to subject Uma to the trial of the grasses.

>Every time you set off with Yen you're in the dark

Do you assume she'd know what monsters could lurk in the Oxenfurt sewers for instance? Or what would happen when she uses that Mask of Uroboros? Come on fam.

>>14718297

> According to TW2, she dies while trying to revive Geralt during the Rivian Pogrom. Dunno what more you want as a proof of trust.

She doesn't die, she comes close to because she's using all her Power to try and save Geralt, which is a losing battle, so she eventually would have killed herself with the effort. Ciri whisks them away to an immortal isle where they can recover, before the Wild Hunt comes to use them as bait.

> As far as Yen knows from her cozy place in the Nilfgaard dungeons, Geralt has no amnesia and is fucking her best friend for about an year.

Yen also had amnesia when leaving the Hunt, but hers was cured quickly by the Emperor's mages. She expected Geralt to recover quickly because of his Witcher mutations but he didn't, and she constantly rebukes any mention that his amnesia is in any way relevant even though she had it too and fucked one of Letho's men during their escape.

Neither waifu is perfect, but Yen is a pure-bred hunchbacked bitch.

>>14718297

I'll give her the trying to save thing.

But then one must also consider she was at the time subject to that Genies bond bullshit. So its hard to say if it was genuine or instigated by the bond or fear of what might happen if one half of the bond died.

But funny you bring up the mask.

During the party she drags you off to steal the mask not telling you anything meaningful until you're already in too deep to back out.

Which is kind of her general MO.

She has her moments of humanity and tenderness, and yeah at times Triss is a bit of a ditz.

But when you get involved in anything with Triss she tells you what you're getting into, as much as she knows you will know.

Personally I suspect Yen has some serious psych issues stemming from her originally being a hideous hunchback, with these issues being what compels her to be so secretive, withdrawn, emotionally distant and manipulative.

Can't have been easy growing up and learning magic like that when you're surrounded by magically sculpted sex idols.

>>14717445

>DD combat is not better than TW3 combat.

Fight a griffin in DD, then fight a griffin in W3, and come back and say that with a straight face

>>14718346

Nah, Triss is just more deceptive and subtle in her manipulation. She is a founding member of the Lodge of conniving whores for a reason.

>Yen fucked one of Letho's men

Ayy, where is this mentioned? Don't remember that part.

>Waifus

I still think Geralt would have went with Yen and I personally liked the bants. They're great at being a couple of sarcastic twats who try to one-up each other. Resembles an actual human relationship. As I said I haven't read the books and went with Triss in TW1 and TW2, but in TW3 their attraction is really uninteresting, which is why I've left it for my last playthrough.

It still personally weirded me out when Triss called Ciri 'Little sis', shit felt way more cringy after you know she shagged 'daddy'.

>>14718152

I had something like 80k Nilfgaardian currency because I sold pretty much every sword I found. I'd like to think Geralt used it as a retirement fund.

>>14718609

To be fair how long is Geralt going to live?

Vesemir is supposedly older than Kaer Morhen and that place is fucking ancient.

Would an 80K retirement fund be enough?

What the fuck would Geralt even do in retirement? It's not like he's going to become physically infirm any time soon.

>>14718606

Yeah Triss manipulates a bit and in Witcher 1 even tries manipulating Geralt into a somewhat bizarre family situation with a magically gifted child that Geralt could leave in her care.

But then. Triss was never really a key leader in the Lodge. She was wanted for three things: Her political connections, her knack for winning the trust of very insular and distrusting groups (like say the school of the wolf) and her rather hefty magical muscle.

As for the relationship with Ciri. Yeah that was kinda weird. I think Phillipa pretty much covered it in full though and signalled her desire to be….the aunt that daddy sometimes shags?

>>14718649

I think she was just remarking that Triss plays the older sister, while eagerly waiting to jump into Geralt's bed, or something along those lines. Gotta say, would've liked a sort of family ending, Ciri already held Geralt and Yen as her parents.

Why wasn't there an option to kill Philippa? Fucking hell.

>>14719494

There's a problem anon.

The games and books are seperate. Author got buttblasted and declared games non-canon in their entirety.

Devs response was something along "lol works for us fag"

>>14719786

I'm not disputing whether the author thinks its canon or not; its how the two are treated.

Yen is almost a carbon copy of her behaviours in the books and lots of their relationship has already been founded.

Triss effectively a completely different person with Triss' name. It doesn't make sense; especially when basically every other character in the game is mostly consistent to their book representation- thus Triss (along with her stupid American accent) sticks out like a sore fucking thumb.

Hence series fans will probs default to Yen; newfags/game-only will go for Triss.

Didn't Sapaoski say he was just not interested in playing the games because vidya+oldman and just wanted to establish they were non-canon. CDPR respected that mostly and said they tried to stay fluent with the books themes. Didn't really seem malicious on either end.

>>14719873

>Didn't Sapaoski say he was just not interested in playing the games because vidya+oldman

It was more than that, as far as I remember. He doesn't think highly of games at all, and I don't think he expected them to be so popular.

>>14719929

Yeah he didn't think the video games were going to be popular. which is why he is demanding creative control over the new series on Netflix.

>>14719929

>>14719873

As I understand it the general flow of events is thus:

Devs buy rights off author. Offer him cut of sales, he says "nope gief money" so he sells game rights to devs for a pittance, thinking games will never ever succeed.

Games succeed. Author minor buttblasted.

Devs try to cut him a new deal to expand their media rights and get him a nice steaming pile of the dosh.

They argue over something and author goes "KURWA!" and bitches

Devs shrug shoulders and go back to swimming in their pool full of money

Netflix want to make TV show

>Can't bring Triss to this scene just to watch her reaction

Feels bad man.

>>14715463

>The witcher 3 is a good game

I respectfully disagree you faggot it was boring

>>14720339

>Anon learns an important life lesson about women:The Post

>>14720421

get in loser, we're hunting strigas

>>14720379

there's manipulation and then there's world ending manipulation.

>>14720455

Who do think Helen of Troy was. Also, hasn't it been alluded that Ivanka Trump has been influencing her dad to push for the airstrikes in Syria in response to the false flag chemical attacks?

So yeah, life lessons.

>>14720207

>shouldn't everyone (Africans) be represented in a show based on Polish fantasy novels

lmao, this shit is going to suck

>>14720531

What, you don't want diversity even in fantasy stories? Europe was never white goyim!

Its going to suck. The real question though: what will be worse, Netflix's Witcher or Amazon's LotR TV show?

>>14720339

Triss gets pissy when things don't go how she wanted yeah. Especially when she has a reasonable expectation of the ones in question doing what she wanted them to do. Moreso if she feels a sense of betrayal from it.

As for Alvin. Leaving him with Triss was the best choice and of course Triss was going to use him for something. Sorceress. It's kinda their thing.

But at least he had a reasonable expectation of basic training in magic so he wasn't a walking time bomb and probably winding up with a proper education if he proved himself to not be retarded.

>>14720617

Nope, literally no Africans.

Zerrikania and Ofir is representative of the East, with Ofir most likely being the Middle East/Saudi region and Zerrikania being India/Afghanistan

>>14720630

Netflix pumps out reliable 4/10's, Amazon can flux between 3 and 5. The director they have for Witcher seems to have a bad track record already though, so my money is against them.

>>14720511

>Helen of Troy

A fictional women that was used as a pretense for a war that was going to happen anyway.

>Syria

I just want all the soldiers to get out of the middle eastern shithole. Its one thing if we can get oil and land id be more understanding but to die so that our "allies" who hate us can continue to be in power just irks me.

>>14720207

Yeah sure why don't you represent Korea or furries while you're at it. Also i noticed she said different cultures and ethnicities cause more drama nice freudian slip there. Now why don't you tell us how you really feel about them.

>>14720634

I just wanted to give the boy a loving family after his mothers cruel death. Besides the boy turned out fine.

>>14720718

I wanna fug her though

>>14720718

No direct way, best way is to do her side quest; kill the witch hunters and personally give Radovid the USB stick . Shame you have to kill the guy on your first NG cycle to get the achievement; absolute legend otherwise. Shame Pellar dies though.

>>14720733

she's a lesbian

>>14720659

Kids a walking talking time bomb due to his ludicrous magical powers.

Plus Shani isn't really family material. She's kinda crazy.

>>14720906

She fucked Dijkstra. Repeatedly.

>>14720906

I still wanna fug her

>>14717614

When W3 was on the hype train I remember a lot of people shitting all over CDProjekt because part of the staff who worked on the first game were laid off or resigned using this as proof that W3 would be shit. The truth however is that the recession almost sank the studio and they were forced to sell part of it to keep afloat, this couple with the failure of the port of W1 on 360 and some other financial problems put the studio on deep water.

The other big thing was the graphical downgrade. This was later addressed by them, they explained that they kept quite about it but mainly because they didn't know what to do because they were afraid of the reception it would get, especially when you consider the shitstorms around other games that were downgraded (Watchdogs, DarkSouls2).

When they presented the game they did so with early builds on really beefy PCs and when they tried to put that to work in a open world they realized that they couldn't made it stable, so they had to reduce the fidelity

They also said that they would be extra careful in the future as to not act in bad faith and "deceit" their fans and this is the reason we haven't seen anything about Cyberpunk 2077

>>14719494

The best overall deck in W3 is the Northem Kingdoms and it's also the most balanced. Scoia'tael is shit, Nilfgaard is somewhat imba, Skellige is luck based and Monsters take forever to make viable.

I haven't read the books but from experience and as far as it's presented in the game Yen and Geralt are a ticking time bomb their relationship is going to end with broken car windows and rape allegations, Triss seems nice but sadly they'd get bored of each other at some point and probably have affairs. The one that has some potential is Shani, mainly because both seem really mature about their relationship however one of them would need to leave his/her profession for it to work.

>>14721093

It's still fucked up that they lied about tw3 mod tools.

>>14718606

>>Yen fucked one of Letho's men

>Ayy, where is this mentioned? Don't remember that part.

It's found in a letter left behind by Letho's gang in a cave during some side content in TW2. It's easy to miss twice over for that reason.

>>14720268

That would have been fucking hilarious. I can just imagine Geralt fingering her under the table while she gets increasingly uncomfortable.

>>14720659

> Besides the boy turned out fine.

He went back in time and founded a murder-cult based on fire to try and prevent the white frost of Ithline's prophecy. But he did kill a lot of elves, so I'd say it's 50/50.

>>14720908

>She's kinda crazy.

how so?

>>14721129

he turned out just fine

>>14717614

>I forget what major game may have been coming out around the same time but it's not like there's concrete proof of certain suspects

Witcher 3 would have been released just 3 months after Cisquisition if it hadn't been delayed. It also released very close to the PC version of GTA V.

But my money is on people hate the game just because it became very popular and a lot of plebeian normalfags think it is the best game of all time and such, which automatically paints a target on a game's back around these parts.

>>14721149

Girls got that whole saviour complex thing going.

Wandering the front lines looking for ever more wounded to help and happily wandering into dangerous sewers to try and help people.

Despite being clearly unsuited for the latter and not being able to do much with the former.

She's nice but she'd either abandon the kid in a heartbeat because there's a war or plague somewhere or she'd drag the kid along into extremely dangerous environments.

>Every sorceress in TW3 has a unique attack animation

>Triss has the exact same one as the Succubi enemies

Really activates those almonds

Geralt hates balls, galas and small talk. Triss wants to live it up in Kovir which means balls, galas and small talk outside of the time spent with Triss and monster hunting. Its pretty much the bad + ending for Geralt (bad - being dying in the swamp because Ciri died as well). More politics, more intrigue, more schemes, more small talk. No thanks.

Geralt alone or with Yen are the better outcomes.

>>14720243

>remember his books were unknown outside Poland before the games

He is quite popular in Russia and probably in all of exUSSR.

>>14723565

>Geralt hates balls, galas and small talk

I dont remember Geralt saying that he hates rich life. He says he hates being dragged in for intrigue ( and to be used as someone else tool). He hates injustice and fucked up shit and he knows, he will have to stand up and do something about it, even if it will cost him.

He might pretend here and there that he dislike that woman throw themselves on him. He might pretend that he hates than people recognize him from songs about him. And he even might pretend that witchers dont have emotions, but pretty much all of them dropped the charade.

>>14717553

>I'm not sure what makes people hate W3 so much? I mean it's not god's gift to man but I haven't heard a legit non contrarian view point that's well constructed.

Anon those are either butthurt weebs who hate the game simply because it wasn't made by "glorious nippon" or most likely souls fags who hate EVERY FUCKING GAME that doesn't look like, play like, feel like or isn't like a souls game.

The Witcher games are certainly flawed, but they are not bad games in any way.

>>14724019

You're so full of shit. Do you really think anyone here believes for a second that this retarded post is even slightly sincere?

>>14724157

Popularity IS bad, though. When normals pile onto a game in droves, the next sequel in the series is going to resemble more and more the likes of skyrim and fallout 4 and ubisoft games, in order to appeal to them. I have no hopes for cyberpunk being a memorable title because of this, just witcher 3 with guns.

Witcher 3 is quite good

You got to be moron not to appreciate gameplay, writing and graphics of this title

Finding some incredible small defect and saying das it, its shit is your problem, most AAA games commit WAY LARGER crimes

>>14724309

I agree Witcher 3 was a very decent title by 2017 standards. I just wish the main quest was not so fucking weird when mixed with the secondary quests.

Like "oh no Ciry is in peril… you gotta hurry to save her".

…but look at how many nice secondary quests and contracts we trow at you.

And after doing most of them you get a beefed up Geralt who steamrolls the main quest destroying all the tension buildup and making everything looking silly.

>>14724388

Open world games have that issue, especially ones without level scaling.

Shani > Yen > Ves > Piss > Triss

Prove me wrong

>>14726140

>Trying this hard to fit in

Take your fucking (You) and and go suck a shotgun.

>>14728112

I liked all 3 games. The third one is my favorite though, it made me interested in the backstory. Didn't feel very attached to the characters in the first two games.

>>14728112

She's much cuter in 3 though.

>>14728128

Also, what was added in the Enhanced Edition of TW1? Played it on launch, thinking of replaying it now.

>>14728142

I think they mostly fixed the dialog/translation.

I played Witcher 1, 2 and 3. I beat 1 and 2 and stopped at 3 after the Baron quest. I will eventually get back into 3 to see how everything ends. The first Witcher pulled me in hard due to it's aesthetics, pacing and world design. 3 even though it has better graphics just don't evoke that feeling I got for 1, not even 2 did, I also agree that the difficulty is piss easy in 3, they should have stuck with 1's system and improved upon it, the different stances were pretty cool and can have depth if done right with different enemy encounter and so on.

>>14729470

Same

Are there any mods that make Witcher 2 less like console garbage? Just fixing the menus would be a great improvement.

>>14715633

The fourth one makes me think of a girl I once knew. I wonder if she grew up looking like that. Surely not. Seeing some of the other >8/10s a decade later shows why 3D is PD.

>>14716392

In the books Geralt and Yennefer have several long breakups and reunions. After one of the breakups Geralt had a fling with Triss, and even after they had agreed to end it Triss would make advances for a while. I haven't read every book, so there might be more to this.

>>14717067

I wanted to fuck Cerys so badly. She was the only woman other than Triss and Yennefer that I wanted to bang. I guess it would be odd considering Geralt's relationship with the family, but damn she was hot.

>>14721093

>is that the recession almost sank the studio

Some retarded french company CDPR payed to port Witcher 1 to consoles and completely failed almost sank the studio. Nothing else.

>>14729470

Seems like a typical Witcher game then. It's a drag in the start but once things get rolling it reels you in.

>>14728142

>Also, what was added in the Enhanced Edition of TW1?

Mostly polishing up the (very) rough edges. Dialogue and voice-over was reworked (depending on the region), characters emote while talking instead of standing like stiff puppets, inventory was made easier to manage, added random variety to NPCs so they no longer look like they are all clones (they look like they are all siblings now instead). That's what I can remember off the top of my head. They might have expanded the content, but I'm not sure about that.

>>14730433

They added some fan missions as well the two official ones. The official ones are decent enough to try out.

>>14730212

>I wanted to fuck Cerys so badly

I too wanted to, as you said it makes sense but they might have been able to make it work.

>>14730212

>I wanted to fuck Cerys so badly. She was the only woman other than Triss and Yennefer that I wanted to bang. I guess it would be odd considering Geralt's relationship with the family, but damn she was hot.

Loved the scar. Liked Jutta as well though.

>>14732549

Jutta is the best.

Cant fuck ciri 0/10

>>14732710

Best part of the expansion. Iris is fine as well Really miffed that she had to go. Would've been great just to have her in the clinic, especially since all other important characters are gone at this point.

>>14732893

The only reason I haven't played 3. Is there a mod for it?

>>14733008

Yep. There are mods that replace prostitutes with Ciri, nothing that lets you run up to her in-game and say "let's fuck" though AFAIK, but given how much little time you actually spend together pasting Ciri over a courtesan's model is probably the best bet anyway.

>>14732714

There are 2 lines like that in the entire game, and both of them are obviously ironic. It amazes me how many autists don't understand this

>>14733120

You know one of the symptoms of autism is being unable to discern sarcasm, right?

>>14733168

Ves was best girl tbh.

>>14733120

The first was to Shani as he is trying to woo her and get in her pants. The second was against the butch female knight who Geralt beats and feels bad about it so tries to make her feel better.

>>14725992

Shame there isnt a full golden sun armor set

>>14733408

I can't believe how easy it is to miss out on that mask.

>>14715570

>Yennifer

>not best girl

Shit taste faggot. Triss is hands down worst of the 3 main broads.

>>14733626

Still don't get how people choose the womyn whose only motivation is her future political career, instead of the one willing to do everything for her freak family.

>>14729470

> Binge-played it to completion when I had free time, couldn't put it down once the story got going.

The main story if fucking garbage though, it's been forever since I've seen pacing this bad, it just drags on forever in the boring parts, and everything that is even remotely interesting is cut short to be a disappointment. Ironically the sidequests and the dlcs don't have that problem for the most part, so I don't really know how they could fuck up so badly

>>14732710

That is some Naoko Yamada shit.

>>14732714

>It is another "obtuse autists can't into irony" episode

>>14733748

I'd say hearts of stone main quest is one of the best stories in RPGs. It is just a ripoff of Faust, but it is done well and the particular Witchery twists are delicious. Blood and Wine story has a lot of problems though, but the sidequests in Toussant are mostly very good so it isn't that bad. Agree with the main quest from the main game, it is very poorly paced. Bloody Baron's arc is fine/good, but Novigrad drags on too much and it is boring for the most part and Skellige is cool, but feels like an extended side quest rather than the main quest. After you rescue Ciri the game picks up the pace and feels rushed as hell. It is still way better than most modern CRPGs, which goes to show how shit the genre has become on that front.

>>14733678

CDPR pretty much made her the perfect waifu anyway, which also makes her a boring character. Her political stuff is barely touched upon and not made into a big deal despite it being a deal breaker.

>>14733811

Yeah the bloody baron arch is fine and has the best atmosphere of the game, but Novigrad becomes such an endless whining about muh oppression, that I just can't take it seriously.Skellige, was okay, some of the islands had some neat stuff on them, but a lot of them were also practically empty, and for the scale of the map, the boat was way to fucking slow. Apart from the fact that the implied urgency of the situation doesn't fit the pacing at all, It's just odd that no point of the story has actual weight to it, which is in part due to the terrible combat system and the overall piss easy difficulty. You're always doing the same, walk through corridors, kill x-amount of enemies with the same attack pattern, talk to some fags, use you Witcher senses to follow some obvious clues and/or footsteps, fight more enemies, repeat. The game never challenges you beyond that, and since all the parts feel the same the game becomes terribly trudging and boring. I really wished they'd have drawn out a few key points of the story, so they actually fit the weight that the story assigns them. Finding ciri on that fucking island takes maybe about 5 minutes, even though everyone is talking about how dangerous the it is. The same goes for the battle of kaehr mohran, you have to gather all these fags, and act as if you're putting up defenses, but the final battle is boring, short and full of fucking cut scenes. But the worst part really is the end, the final battle, after everything get's hyped up, after you see all those different dimensions and the white frost, and the huge armada of ships the emperor has. And then the final battle consists of two boring and uneventful as fuck boss battles, and a short corridor run in between them. It has zero scale to it, even the cutscenes looked like they just wanted to finally finish this mess of a main-story, it was absolutely horrendous, and don't get me started on the shit with ciri walking into a fucking white cloud as the final battle against the white frost, this was such an immensely stupid cop out, they tried to come up with some fancy concept about entropy destroying the worlds and had no idea how to do anything with it.

>>14733928

>and don't get me started on the shit with ciri walking into a fucking white cloud as the final battle against the white frost, this was such an immensely stupid cop out

I'd much prefer a one year delay or even two for a Ciri questline inside the fog akin to the wonderland in Blood and Wine (with the tone less Shrek and more Bloodborne). It would have been so great.

I kinda miss the Witcher 3.

Very memorable game, let's hope some games come close to it the future, Kingdom Come comes close though, but it's too generic compared to TW3.

>>14733748

> it just drags on forever in the boring parts, and everything that is even remotely interesting is cut short to be a disappointment.

>>14733811

>After you rescue Ciri the game picks up the pace and feels rushed as hell. It is still way better than most modern CRPGs, which goes to show how shit the genre has become on that front.

I agree with these, the battle in Kaer Morher against the Wild Hunt in particular felt rushed, ended up too quickly and didn't have enough impact, despite supposedly being the high point of the game, making the Wild Hunt feel no big deal, definitely not the huge threat was supposed to be.

>>14732710

>Didn't take a screenshot when she didn't have her shoe on

Why even bother?

>>14734890

>the part where you find Ciri on the Isle of Mists

Even if you know she isn't actually dead, Geralt's reaction is pretty emotional.

>>14734040

The Wild Hunt was made to be a strange, unstoppable and unknowable foe in the books and previous games but in The Witcher 3 they are just really tall dudes in skeleton armor with larp swords.

The writers fucked up on the main villain, but I can't fully wrap my head around it considering how well written many of the other villians were. The Crones and Gaunter O'Dimm were much more interesting even though the stakes in the story were much lower with them.

Gaunter

O'

Dimm

>>14735012

I think thats mainly down to the main villain of the story being this utterly alien force with no real stake in the world beyond its conquest, which can only commence with Ciris capture.

He's essentially stopped at step 1 of his plan.

>>14735029

Did

Nothing

Wrong

Post more Shani.

>>14715463

>eurojank thread

you could have just called it that, either that or the garbo thread.

>>14724164

I kind of liked Geralts character in 3, he's old, weary and he no longer really fits his tough guy appearance. He's just some pretty normal dude character wise, he's no total edge-lord or whiny depressed faggot, he's a guy that got drafted into being a witcher at young age and has come to terms with it. He reminded me a lot of old snake in MGS4, an elite warrior who's kind of done with the whole warrior thing, knows this and no longer puts up an act in his day to day life. It's a nice contrast to the usual "I'm so fucking edgy/depressed/serious" protagonist you often get with those kind of games. It makes him more versatile and you can play all ways the game offers without breaking his character. I'd say he'd choose the first answer

>>14739071

This. Geralt carried most of Witcher 3 for me, he is a very good character and most choices you can make were written to be very believable decisions Geralt would make in that situation. A good example is exactly >>14724164 as both answers were written in a way that is very satisfying and in-character for him.

>>14739137

In a lot of ways Witcher 3 proved that a well written and defined main character is vastly superior to a the blank slate characters that have become so popular of late.

>>14739140

The infinite number of ways a given person would feel about or respond to any particular situation makes blank slate characters harder to make feel connected to the world around them. You end up having to go the Mass Effect route of making the protagonist a caricature of either virtue or edge.

>>14739160

>>14739140

If anything CDPR taught us that you can make a "choose your own adventure" style RPG without compromising on having a clearly defined protagonist with his own history, personality and traits. Any developer that still falls on the blank slate bullshit is being lazy or skimping on the writing budget.

>>14739177

Blank slates are only acceptable in FPS campaigns. Unless it's a superautistic RPG with giants blocks of text and without voice acting it's simply implausible for writers to make enough responses which would fit for every possible character archetype then have them recorded.

When you consider that superautism RPGs aren't being developed anymore and that multiplayer and casualization have murdered FPS campaigns it's safe to say that blank slates are a thing of the past.

Anyone know what year B&W takes place in? Can't seem to find any indication.

>easy

there goes any chance of me ever playing it. the only games worth playing are difficult and make you think about your actions.

>>14742867

The same year I imagine. Though it is definitely after the events of the main game and HoS.

>>14739893

I agree, the amount of money that would require just for the voice work of such RPG seems like a publisher's nightmare, imagine if they went with different voices…

I think that's just not happening on a AAA game any time soon. You either have your blank slate and walls of texts or a defined voiced character. I take the latter.

>>14743174

Is that painting you get done in Toussaint? Why does the Wight have it?

>>14743216

That's the Brothel in Beauclair. No idea how it got there, considering I bought it from the artist.

>>14744230

git gud

>>14744262

Hopefully, Witcher 1 became much more fun once you could level up your combat stances, especially the group stance. But now I'm stuck with the "fast" attack (that leaves you vulnerable for several seconds) and heavy "attack" (that passes through enemies most of the time).

>>14730344

They really need to stop putting you in the swamp so early in these fucking games. Velen wasn't as bad as the first game but it still feels shitty to be surrounded by such a dingy atmosphere for so long so early.

>>14733168

Would it be possible to spin off an entire game out of that mission where the Stripes raid that house in Floatsam? I like the idea of middle ages SWAT but I have no idea how you'd accomplish that gameplay-wise.

>>14744781

They're less SWAT and more commandos.

And I'd imagine that it'd be a very stealth focused game focused around eliminating sentries, blocking off streets and so on without being noticed until you get everyone in place to burst in to complete the objective all at once.

Medieval metal gear?

>>14739075

>hating a game makes you a shill

Can we agree to a moratorium on this word until we can formally define it for the benefit of the board? I'm sick of hearing shill, goon, soyboy, cuck, etc. as generic insults. It waters down the power of these words to call out specific bad behaviors.

>>14744262

W2's combat is a straight downgrade, though. While both the sequels suffer from popular-game-feature-railroading typical of AAA productions, this one bungled it in the worst possible way. (Crafted items are weak, weight limits make looting crafting materials worthless, using potions is a pain in the ass, combat is shockingly different, need to invest in skill tree to avoid every multiple-enemy encounter being instant death or cheese fests.)

>>14720243

>So he sold it for way less money than the games are worth, but had no reason to think the games would be so successful (remember his books were unknown outside Poland before the games).

They are fucking popular in eastern europe but there was no English/french/spanish/german translation so the western europeans never caught wind of that shit because they don't read those languages. An english translator picked it up after the games because the games were popular and tried to associate the books with the games to maximize sales (also didn't publish the books in sequential order, so there's a gap of missing content) and then the average dude assumes it's yet another shitty videogame tie-in novel. After that amazing translation release, the publisher probably went "sorry but we're done here, your books aren't selling and they don't seem to make a lot of sense so I guess they're not be very good" and I reckon the author flipped his fucking shit because the retarded publisher managed to make his shit look 10x worse and he looked like a goddamn tie-in to the videogames.

I reckon that sapkowski probably considered his novels his legacy (his own mark on polish literary history and the thing he'll be remembered for after he dies) since he was the guy who made Polish fantasy a thing and on some level it made him nuts to be regarded as a footnote to his own creation and the videogames based on it, giving him an axe to grind with CD Project.

>>14746133

Sapkowski is ultra butthurt at Wiedźmin series tho and he doesnt consider it good at all

When he was writing hi first stories in that universe it was supposed to be a quick cash grab, but it got popular instead of his "better" books and he got butthurt about that

>>14721093

>When they presented the game they did so with early builds on really beefy PCs and when they tried to put that to work in a open world they realized that they couldn't made it stable, so they had to reduce the fidelity

No man. It was pure consolization. PCs could handle it, but the consoles couldn't. Their specs were much too shitty and CD Projekt wasn't about to do separate asset streams for each console and test all the variations individually. So they took a one size fits all solution and fucked the PC.

>>14746252

>Sapkowski is ultra butthurt at Wiedźmin series tho and he doesnt consider it good at all

Huh, that would explain a lot about the writing. The short stories were nice but the novel shit (esp. ciri stuff) was pretty unimpressive when I checked it out. But the funny thing is that it really does do dark fantasy much better than most and did leave a Polish mark on the fantasy genre (esp. I don't think Poland previously really had its own fantasy books either). I never followed the dude too closely and from what I did hear the Witcher series was just Sapkowski deciding regular fairytales were unrealistic because normally you wouldn't go into crazy suicidal adventures but put out a bounty and hire a professional monster hunter to settle things. Witcher series was him creating the "professional" that does the monster hunting. Stuff was interesting but once it went ciri road the narrative just got dumb

>>14742871

>there goes any chance of me ever playing it. the only games worth playing are difficult and make you think about your actions.

Try The Age of Decadence then. It has both, until you get good enough at the game. The downside is that in this game it's usually a good idea to save your skill points so you can reload and pass checks. There's a shitton of branching content though and it's very easy to walk down the wrong alley and get yourself mugged and killed if you're not a combat machine.

>>14748298

There's a part in Touissant, after butchering a bandit gang, in which Geralt remarks, "Why men throw their lives away attacking an armed witcher, I'll never know." Seems like a nod to that point, since a lot of RPGs have intimidation mechanics. Could be that they considered it unnecessary since witchers have the Axii sign that they can use to Jedi mind trick anyone who doesn't want to be cooperative.

>>14749081

Plus Geralt himself was "killed" by some nigger with a pitchfork.

>>14749112

I was tempted to put that in, but that was during a full scale riot, and presumably when he was tired since he had taken out a good chunk of the rioters. I wouldn't really put someone like Gaetan who very nearly died to old man jenkins and his three kids on the same level of a man who cut through half of a peasant riot (minimum 50+ people)

Its the power level difference of Goku SS1 vs Shaggy Blanco; absolutely incomparable

>>14748298

She's not the lesser evil though: http://witcher.wikia.com/wiki/Coram_Agh_Tera

>>14749081

It's also worth mentioning that Gaetan got stabbed in the back with a pitchfork as sad peasants unleashed a surprise attack on him.

So he killed a whole village of peasants while suffering what would be for a normal human probably a life threatening injury.

Certainly one that would make you want to sit down and go "ow"

>>14749210

Indeed. Regardless, Gaetan is one of the more deadly/proficient Witchers actually seen; which really puts how much more of a god Geralt is. In the same game:

-Gaetan struggles in his prime age at a sub-prime state with maximum 10 below average experienced peasants.

-Geralt chews through 3 hanse forts with relative ease in prime state at a sub-prime age; basically walks through a full on Wild Hunt attack/ kills Eredin with relative ease (the best Elven swordsman alive up until that point) as well as walking through a fullon vampire invasion as if it were a midnight stroll

Again, Goku SS1 vs Shaggy Blanco

>>14749210

>It's also worth mentioning that Gaetan got stabbed in the back with a pitchfork as sad peasants unleashed a surprise attack on him.

Geralt died of that shit (peasant pitchfork in the back) in the books. The Witcher 1 picks up after Geralt died and Ciri somehow magics Geralt and Yennefer back to life. You see, a genie's wish ensured Geralt and Yennefer's fates were bound together and therefore when Geralt kicked the bucket, Yennefer magically died too - Heart of Stone should probably make some reference to the fact that if Geralt loses the bet O'Dimm would have Yennefer's soul too if he does Heart of Stone before The Last Wish.

>>14749391

Didn't the wish only regard their fates? Gaunter wouldn't have Yen's Soul, but she would probably die shortly after Geralt under unnatural circumstances. Would like to see what they do with Gaunter in W4 sometime in 2025, definitely the best of the major 3 antagonists in the third game; its quite obvious that he purposefully isn't dead in any of the endings. Shame his Gwent card is pure fucking RNG though

>>14749425

I kind of got the impression that they were trying to set up to continue the series with Ciri as the lead after Geralt retires to his vineyard. I don't know how the gameplay would work for that though. Ciri doesn't have any of the Witcher mutations, so that takes both potions and signs out of her bag of tricks.

>>14715541

Guessing from this, that Yen is the same in the games, as in the books?

Never liked her hunchback ass in any of the books. Also Geralt is a manwhore, pussywipped bitch that rolls over for Yen.

Wish Bonhart killed both Yen and Ciri when he had the chance

>>14749468

I never felt Ciri is going to be the one to take the mantle. As much as you try, there is a 2/3 chance Ciri can't feasibly carry on, since she either dies; rules or becomes a witcher-but-not-a-witcher.

However there is one Witcher that; no matter what you try to do, will always survive W3-whilst also having a motive that can more than carry a games plot in a new-Eskel.

On top, he is regarded as the most experienced Wolf bar Geralt/Vesamir and nearly soloed Caranthir. Plus Triss even mentions he has a higher potential than Geralt regarding magic. And on top of that; he has a similar temperament to Geralt and enough established history to build on and make things interesting (He has a Law of Surprise child he is purposefully avoiding; he took meth with a succubus etc)

>>14749425

>Didn't the wish only regard their fates? Gaunter wouldn't have Yen's Soul, but she would probably die shortly after Geralt under unnatural circumstances.

I'm pretty sure their fate includes the ultimate fate of their souls. There wasn't a special time limit or mortality limit placed on that wish to bind their fates together. Some folks even believe in shared fates persisting throughout reincarnations. Taking Geralt's soul would've basically made for a buy one get one free for O'Dimm if he wins, since Yennefer would have to share Geralt's fate lol.

>>14749468

>I kind of got the impression that they were trying to set up to continue the series with Ciri as the lead after Geralt retires to his vineyard.

I have some doubt about that, as Ciri either becomes a witcher or the empress of Nilfgaard. I suppose the sequel would have to be Witcher route Ciri, but you never know. They might chicken out and pick another Witcher school or shit which will undoubtedly piss off fans. At any rate they're not going to make another Witcher game until Cyberpunk succeeds, unless we count Gwent. Both the books and the games were trending towards Ciri becoming the next Witcher.

>Ciri doesn't have any of the Witcher mutations, so that takes both potions and signs out of her bag of tricks.

Ciri can do the Witcher signs. They're just low-level magic, but Ciri being Ciri they become extremely powerful in her hands. This was already established in the novels when she practiced the Aard sign and accidentally demolished a hut. Owing to various events though Ciri gave up the use of magic. If she goes fullblown witcher I'm pretty sure she's using signs again. As for potions, that's not really a problem. She'd just use different potions and she has an unusual constitution of a different sort anyhow. Lack of mutations is compensated for by her ability to use small magics to improve her speed, power, and so forth, which is what she did in the novels for a while. Well if you play as Ciri she has movements that are more blatantly magical than what she does in the novels.

>>14749535

I think Eskel is unlikely. He might play a larger role, but his story's a bit set in stone and Eskel's surprise child shit was a straight knockoff from Renfri in the books with a dash of Ciri's story and they would have to try to import a Witcher 1 premium module's decisions into this Witcher 4 game. I strongly suspect that given the direction the game series has taken, they would not want to revisit the Price of Neutrality module.

>>14749535

I keep saying this but next witcher needs to avoid the school of the wolf and explore others.

>>14749680

>>14749665

I'd like the next game to be a prequel about the early Witchers, finding what works and what doesn't. Doing a sequel that undoes two endings for W3 is lame. Ciri could work as a game, her magic powers carry her where her swordsmanship doesn't.

Generally though, give the next Witcher game a more traditional RPG approach. Create a Witcher (no female or shitskin options allowed for journo salt), pick a school (starting class) and let players try different things out. Sword and board, bows, stealth, pure magic, maces, axes, dual wielding, daggers, traps, poisons, two swords etc.

>>14749425

You know that antagonist is a good one if you dont realize that he even is an antagonist till a certain point

I mean i didnt realized that O'dim might not exactly be as nice as he seemed when he sticked a fucking wooden spoon trough peasant eye socket, but even right after that i didnt regarded him as a pure fucking evil he apparently was, it took me until meeting the scientist that O'dim cursed untill i full realized whats going on

>>14749524

This

I never liked Ciri, in books she is downright shit character and marry sue, its little bit better in books but still.

Also it kinda pisses me off how her character arc kinda hijacked the plot and action of the game from grand politics, schemes and secrets lodges that we seen in W2 into "muh daughter and retarded elves" in W3

>>14749834

That sounds like a great story and setting but also a real hard work to implement in game format

>>14749836

To be fair. Is O'dimm even evil?

I mean sure he cursed the shit out of a guy who was investigating and sort of stalking him.

It's like finding out a guy is learning everything he possibly can about you and then walking into his home to find books all about you everywhere and pictures of you all over the walls and maybe a dakimakura with your face on it.

You wouldn't be terribly pleased.

The spoon thing is pretty evil. But then fucking townie cunt.

You leave Gaunter alone, don't call him, don't bother him, don't take his offers, etc. He'll leave you alone.

>>14749847

Well thats the thing. We've said goodbye to Geralt and his story at this stage so what we do next doesn't have to come AFTER Geralts story. It can just as easily be before or during.

And we can always add more witcher schools if we want because Bear, Griffin, Viper, etc were all made by the devs.

>>14749834

I like the idea of having the tutorial of the first game being witcher training in some obscure school.

Maybe the protagonist woud be one boy in a batch of witchersvand end up as one of the only three survivors by the end of the tutorial. After that they give you a medallion and tell you to fuck off and kill drowners for a while. My only concern about that would be the tutorial's runtime. I despise hour long tutorial sections

>>14749865

>To be fair. Is O'dimm even evil?

Considering that he is other dimensional being of unknown power that tricks humans and takes joy in taking people lives away, yeah that seems pretty evil. Not to mention that he is a threat to humans, and whole purpose of Witchers is to get rid of such dangers

>>14749871

Instead of tutorial just make it an "act 1" or something similar, basically split game into few acts that take place during the lifespan of protagonist

Eg. Act1 - 17-19 yr, Act 2 30 yr etc…

>>14749871

Personally I favour long prologue sections. As they provide an exceptional chance to build a starting point in terms of your sense of relationship with other characters.

But you got to do them right. Witcher 3 did a poor job with its white orchard prologue, it did get you into the shoes of Geralt pretty well and introduce you to Vesemir. But it needed more time spent with Vesemir.

>>14749890

He only gives them what they ask him for. It's hardly his fault they always ask for things they don't actually want.

And always want to back out of paying the agreed upon price at the end of their contract.

>>14749902

I think an important part would be the winters. Since every year witchers try to go back to their school to wait out winter. Which would provide an excellent opportunity for hijinks like the drunken antics from witcher 3 with Eskel, Lambert and Geralt.

Said antics doing a wonderful job of humanising and building a sense of relationship with those two side characters.

>>14749902

While we're on that subject, is the general consensus here that the open world zeitgeist is absolutely trash and that the fad should be dead within a decade? The first two games which had the Act format had much better pacing and less fluff content.

>>14749916

Nah it depends on a game, i enjoy both Act structured games and open world ones

But open world game is much harder to do properly therefore its harder to get a good openworld game but its doable

>>14749916

I dont think it'll die any time soon.

It gives an illusion of choice.

But expect it to be explored in more depth with new variants.

It could work in the context of the proposed act format in that the open world map remains the same every year but available quests and other elements of it change to fit the current act.

>>14749916

Problem with open world is it tends to lead to a lot of shallowness. I think I prefer a more contained and detailed world.

>>14749932

A "changing" game like that would be really awesome, see some villages expanding, some getting abandoned after a raid or plague or monsters wiping it off, seeing characters change and some of them get replaced etc…

I doubt we would see a game like that even tho

>>14749946

It'd work very well for the story I proposed too.

Villages and towns may start out more accepting of you but growing to hate you over time as attitudes change with the generations.

Perhaps theres a tavern in one town. Popular with witchers who happen to find themselves in the area since the owner collects witcher stuff and has a little memorial to fallen witchers.

But then his grandson inherits the tavern and throws it all out while banning witchers cos fucking muties.

>>14749916

No. Open world is great when done right, but the problem is that open world is usually done in a shit way where the narrative pushes you into a linear path anyway and you're just treated to some excessively unnecessary landscape as nothing ever fucking changes unless it's through main quest shit.

>>14749945

Problem with AAA games in general is that it tends to lead to a lot of shallowness. Don't blame open world design for that. Blame the studio for doing a shit job of it. AAA industry is full of bandwagoning the latest fix to AAA cancer design but they never succeed because the problem wasn't the idea they had but the awful way they execute their ideas. Until the industry remembers to focus games on the actual fucking gameplay instead of the turbo-casual mass market bland shit they keep turning everything into, they will keep running into troubles where players bitch about your game and say it is more fun to watch than actually fucking play. Never make a god damn game that belongs more on youtube than someone's computer.

If anyone's having trouble with Witcher 2:

Skip the sidequests, none of them have any rewards worth having, and don't bother hunting down crafting components for some uber crafted sword or armor. Beeline towards getting the combat roll in the swordsman tree immediately so you can roll 3 times farther. Useful in combat but more importantly makes traveling a lot less of a pain in the ass. Loot the fuck out of everything in town and then make a shit ton of grapeshot sometime during Chapter 1 and also try to get the increased knife damage and increased bomb damage upgrade in the alchemy tree.

There's two types of enemies in the game: Those that can block and those who can't. Throw shield-penetrating knives or bombs at the former and stab the fuck out of the latter.

Abuse Quen.

The attack animation is dependent on enemy and distance. It's possible to do the spinny 4-hit fast attack every time, and it's not hard to figure it out.

Don't bother with potions other than swallow and sometimes cat.

After getting the combat roll and boosted bomb damage, dump the rest of the skill points into swords.

>>14749391

>You see, a genie's wish ensured Geralt and Yennefer's fates were bound together and therefore when Geralt kicked the bucket, Yennefer magically died too

Canonically it was that Yennefer used all her magic trying to save Geralt that it drained her so completely she herself was going to die, so their fates were still bound together but it was, in some way, still a decision or an act on her part.

>>14750029

You also want to get the upgrade that negates backstab damage (you'll need to upgrade it twice for its full effect) so you don't get insta-killed on harder difficulties

>>14750051

Well, you can also just not get hit or use Quen

So when I played it on release I was really disappointed by all the modern streamlined HUD overlays completely killing any immersion whatsoever. Are there decent mods that fix that while still keeping the game playable?

>>14750352

HUD is fully customisable, what are you on about? Turn it off if it bothers you.

>>14749865

>Dude is literally Mephistopheles

>Is he evil?

The autism in this board never ceases to amaze me

>>14750190

Well since most witcher schools have been effectively defunct for about fifty to one hudnred years. We've got plenty of time to play with.

Plus the story doesn't need to be high politics.

>>14750190

Oh forgot to mention.

In the case of O'Dimm.

The soul is the price these people have willingly chosen to pay.

And it's not their fault they didn't get the terms of their wish checked out by a lawyer or someone smarter than them.

>>14749834

Good point, fixed character is better. However, I think the gameplay side of things should be more loose and let you try out different weapons, builds, approaches. You'll always be Witcher X of Y but one run you're specializing in polearms, the other in stealth and bows, another in blunt weapons.

>>14750880

Could be done.

Perhaps a witcher school that obsessively collects techniques and knowledge from other schools?

Since many of them seem to have been made with a specific purpose in mind.

>>14750029

>Skip the sidequests

Just skip the entire game if you don't want to play it.

>so you can roll 3 times farther.

If you take more than one level of rolling you'll roll past enemies to a point where you have to run towards them again in order to get a hit in.

>Abuse Quen.

and look up some cheat engine tables/cheat mods to completely ruin the game.

That's some terrible advice, anon. Except for the part with attack animations and distance. It's strange how many people struggle to figure that one out.

>>14750910

That could be quite cool, but Witchers are always depicted as sword users. I still think a prequel set centuries before Geralt and all of his stories would be good for the variety in "classes". Maybe the Witcher you play as is the one who starts using two swords, one of meteorite silver to end the game.

What if CDPR just ripped off the combat of muh Darksouls? They could make it a bit faster and less punishing so that they could finally have a combat system which makes the player feel that he's fighting an enemy and not the control scheme.

>>14751013

W3 didn't have bad combat; it was just shallow and easy; yet consistant. Not a major flaw if combat isn't the absolute main focus a la Soulslikes and your last two titles were criticised for combat inconsistencies, so at least it wasn't W1/2 tier BrokE

I'm thinking of buying this, what are the differences between the regular version and GOTY version and which one should I buy?

>>14751029

GOTY has the expansions, which are worth it.

>>14751013

Souls combat is slow and boring as all hell though,. Witcher shit is supposed to be like dancing with a sword. Might be better if it was closer to Nioh, it already has fighting stances like TW1.

>>14751029

Regular is regular with all the free DLC's, GOTY is the same but also comes with the 2 basically-mandatory god-tier DLC's that you are going to buy later anyways if you sink some hours into it; with Blood and Wine being bigger than most games in it's own right.

I think GotY is about a few quid extra, easily worth it; most likely the cheapest option

>>14751050

Nioh might have been more technical, rewarding and fluid than Souls, but it was about the same pace. What meth are you smoking….unless you were a kurisagama shitter….

>>14751013

they tried ripping off demon's souls with the witcher 2 by the devs own admission. They did it worse in every way and prove they don't know how to design a game for shit.

>>14751050

I was suggesting a speed between Darksouls and Bloodborne. I enjoyed how frantic Bloodborne is but I think that it's too much for most fans of The Witcher. I like the stances in Nioh but once again it might be too complex for mainstream audiences.

>>14751077

>and prove they don't know how to design a game for shit

>proceeds to make what is widely regarded as one of the best games of all time

I do agree that the devs can be fucking clueless though, they made Gwent one of the better CCG's on the market to a very mediocre one in a single patch

>>14751067

You fuggin wot m8? Low-stance in Nioh doesn't feel anywhere close to Souls combat, especially with the quick dashes.

Single katana mustard race

>>14751067

Nioh is much faster paced than Souls, even with the heavy weapons, because of how fast (and active) stamina regeneration is on that game. If you think Nioh is as slow as a Souls game you quite simply played it wrong, no trolling.

>>14751161

Should I get Nioh on PS4 or PC? Sage for off-topic.

>>14750190

>Open world is trash when open=empty (BotW, Mad Max etc) or open=linear (Batman AK, Farcry >2 etc). When a world is fleshed out enough and has a reason to exist, it's a great take on vidya.

This.

>>14751029

GOTY has 2 DLCs, which are much better than the base campaign. Blood and Wine is basically epilogue. I'd recommend GOTY.

>>14751194

PC master race.

>>14751194

The PC port seems pretty bad, but that can be mostly fixed (if it hasn't already) and the PC version is way cheaper and comes with all DLC. I'd personally get the PC version today, but PS4 is mostly fine as well (it is the one I have) since it also can run at 60 fps if you change the settings.

>>14751258

>PC master race.

>>>/reddit/

>>14751194

Are you asking if you should get it at all or on which platform you should?

I played the PS4 beta and had fun once I understood the stances and flow of combat. I kept meaning to buy it, but eventually it came to pc and I lost my last reason to keep my bloodstation. I have it on pc but I haven't tried it so I can't say if the port is good.

If you are intrigued by the idea of slightly faster and more complex Darksouls with diablo loot set and with nipnong mythology then you should get it. The combat seems convoluted at first, but if you take your time then you'll appreciate it.

>>14751269

Nigger please. PC elitism is nothing fucking new even before Yahtzee mentioned that shit. Reddit has fuck all to do with this shit.

>>14751304

>Torfag defending cancer

What a surprise.

>>14751269

>>14751326

>>>/neogaf/

Do not participate in console wars.

Do not respond to console warriors

>>14751109

A secondary conjunction would have been nice, but as wee see in both playable endings there are no influx of monsters, so it was evidently localised to the island.

On the decline path it would be nice, if it weren't for the constant mandatory points of no return. Open worlds and the short scale passage of time don't particularly go hand in hand, let along the thousands of years between a booming war academy and a castle husk.

Rebuild is the more feasible of the two, but passes on some of the aspects. First, new Witchers basically have to be invoked by the Law of surprise. Second a region such as Kovir has no Witchas because of their sheer isolation, no school needed for a recluse plain between the sea and a mountain range. Third, sorcerers might be linked with individual Witchers, but fundamentally don't give a shit about them. They are two completely separate factions.

Kovir is the place where the sorcerers fled to because it is literally nonpolitical. They don't dare declare a side as Henry Var Attre tells you. The place can't be fortified; the men there are extremely inexperienced with war and most of the sorcerers aren't battle ready like the Lodge-they are just bumfucks who can levitate brooms and herbalists. The only thing that protects them is location, climate and money for neutrality.

Radovid only lost the retake since his army is primarily cavalry based, thus got fucked in the mountain passes; but Nilfgaard doesn't suffer that advantage, with Skellige being the main block to invading an easy Kovir (Hence why Cerys is the idiots good choice and the realists worst choice, she inadvertently fucks the North over and leaves Skellige to be laid waste). If Kovir was in any ways appearing to build an army/gain power, both sides of the war would scramble for it before it was built up, since Kovir is a resource stronghold and a nigh endless cashcow to whoever would hold it (hence why Mahakam too is nonpolitical and extremely isolationist). And the old 'well it would be hidden' wouldn't work one bit. Nilfgaard is known to have everywhere crawling with spies and most of the Northern Leaders aren't fucking idiots; they are abject political masterminds (Henselt, Foltest, Radovid and Demavend didn't agree not to invade each other; it was because they feasibly couldn't), with Radovid particularly keeping an eye on Kovir since it is ex-Redanian territory.

If you want a more 'realistic' version of what would happen, starting the game following Eskel before the Child of Surprise he's avoiding is thrust upon him (with the kid being you as a witcha in training).

As you travel south you will encounter the different schools anyway, since the Wolves are literally the farthest North school we know of (Top to bottom; Wolves of Kaedwen, Cats of Redania/Novigrad, Bears of Skellige, Griffins of Touissant, Manticores of Zerrikania and Vipers of Nilfgaard). I don't think its as good as just cutting to the point and sticking with Eskel, but if it's going to happen; that would probably be the most lore freindly.

>>14751119

Yes, and Low stance is only useful for proccing debuffs. It's DPS is dogtier outside of WotSam.

Also it's good to know that a 1kat pleb knows it's place below the superior Spear/Tonfa master race.

>>14751161

Fights were faster paced, but the level pacing and enemy healthbars on NG<+ drag the pace slower than Souls by a mile. Even if speedrunning, the final maingame level will usually take you about 20-25 minutes to beat, for a level about the same size and verticality as Old Yharnum; which can be done in <5 minutes.

>>14751194

PS4 is more reliable, and is a cheaper copy if you go for eBay. PC port was pretty shoddy and the controls are more suited/playerbase is larger on the PS4. I've not seen how good fixes are, but I usually play soulslikes on console anyways since the button mapping is better for it.

The northern kingdoms deserve to be conquered tbqh.

>>14751105

exactly. When a dev doesn't show consistency when they put out something good it is called a fluke.

>>14751105

Is the dedicated Gwent game bad now? If so then it's a shame.

I found it to be very relaxing and a nice change of pace in The Witcher 3. It was the only virtual cardgane which ever caught my eye.

At least I can focus more on my backlog without it.

>>14751105

What did they do?

>>14751580

>dedicated Gwent game

>>14751861

Scoia handbuff can drop a buffed Ihuarraquax I notice.

Has anyone tried frothy dwarves? Agitators/Marauders/Farseers with Golden Froth?

>>14751861

It's not simple combat, it's bad combat with randomized animations and inconsistent frame times. literally game design 101.

>>14750352

There is literally an option called "HUD Configuration" that lets you turn off individual parts of the HUD.

Be warned though that the game, like most modern games, is poorly designed and relies heavily on navigation via minimap and waypoints thereon. You don't get actual instructions or directions, you're just following markers. And it's shit.

>>14751529

> No matter what you do with Eskel people are just going to say they want Geralt, you need a clean cut.

They were going to do this in the first game. Berengar was the original playable character that players could design themselves, but all the players kept just making a Geralt stand-in anyway because they wanted to play as the witcher.

>>14752690

No, I got all the way to the final sequence; then I never played it again for no real reason. I don't know why I do this, but I just do on certain games

>>14752690

I beat it like twice. What's your problem?

>>14752697

Its terrible.

>>14752690

Played it on release, and am replaying at the moment. I had forgotten how god-awful walking everywhere feels.

Don't remember Triss being such a cunt on my first playthrough. Won't even give her Geralt's shlong this time.

>>14752697

Repetitive combat that is a mix of simple and complex, making it tedious

Fights are tanky and static

Exploring feels like a chore, speed movement is slow, city and exterior layouts are horrible, making you go around circles instead of letting you cut through the path

Story pace is inconsistent, it hurts from that "the world is about to end/impending doom, but let me find this book for this dwarf first" fault with side quests

So are there any legitimate retards who side with the Scoia'tael?

>>14752068

>Be warned though that the game, like most modern games, is poorly designed and relies heavily on navigation via minimap and waypoints thereon. You don't get actual instructions or directions, you're just following markers. And it's shit.

Yeah that shit fucking annoys me. Level and quest design revolve around brainlessly auto-piloting people these days, and you don't really get level exploration anymore. Nowadays exploration just means collecting a neat pickup here and there for straying from the obvious path rather than navigating and making good use of the terrain.

>>14752680

How is Toruviel a win condition? She's just a 14 drop from what I can tell, unless you use her with Marauders, which means you're not going elf-deck or using Brouver. And if she gets locked, she's trash.

>>14753256

In Witcher 1 or Witcher 2?

>>14753576

Either, they're scum in both games.

>>14753256

If you asked on reddit or in the jewtube comments you might get sone tards who side with them, but everyone here sees that they're niggers who are only further destabilizing race relations.

>>14752068

That's why you don't have it as wolf, why you don't have a player defined character.

Otherwise the series will never escape Geralt.

>>14756167

Actually this is because you imported a save or something. You have a normal silver sword in that scene and that silver sword actually goes away

>>14756167

Is Witcher 2 an improvement over 1?

>>14752754

Witcher series has always had bad combat. IIRC in Witcher 1 boosting group style would eventually give you heavy hitting attacks that just kill everything.

>>14753332

>or using Brouver

Well, I mean the 3drop Brouver combo play that ends with a massive Cleaver.

>>14757234

Eh, I certainly like it more due to it being faster paced. Navigating the shitty streets of Vizima and constantly having to meditate at certain spots was a real chore. They also tried to make combat more action-oriented in TW2, but it feels wonky and unpolished. Game also has some dumbass QTEs sprinkled about.