/v/ - Video Games

In case anyone cares there might be a few issues getting fixed in the near future when it comes to emulating Armored Core games on PCSX2

>>14702660

Don't worry they'll find a way, they always find a way.

It should go without don't trust anything Konami until it's released and you're seen the released game with your own eyes and even then I don't think they deserve your money.

>>14702613

Also worth mentioning is BattleTech - The Crescent Hawk's Inception, an RPG set in the Battletech universe in the vein of Wasteland. It's ancient by today's standards but if you're really desperate for more Battletech that's your best bet.

https://archive.org/details/msdos_BattleTech_-_The_Crescent_Hawks_Inception_1988

Also, while MechCommander 2 is a very inferior sequel to the first game with a few modding tweaks, especially when it comes to the AI, it can be fun.

>>14702660

I just love how everyone pretends the first game doesn't exist. What a fucking shitpile that was in terms of narrative.

>>14702712

> especially when it comes to the AI

>mod for the retarded AI

tell me more

>>14702720

http://www.moddb.com/mods/mechcommander-omnitech

>>14702623

I was thinking of playing them soon. What issues do or did they have?

>>14702930

Armored Core 2/AA had

>broken AI and hitboxes in a few places

>broken HUD in SW

those are fixable now

Still has

>broken graphics in the Phobos corridor

>graphical issue when there's the heat wave effect present

>broken HUD when using high res

>broken shadows in some specific cases

>WS patch causes a couple cutscenes to break visually

3/SL had

>weird graphical issues in a few levels

>broken HUD or text when upscaling the fix ain't perfect as the text/HUD become blurry as hell

that is fixable now

Still has

>few graphical issues involving the water textures if using HW rendering / higher res

>broken reflections and depth with DX11/9 HW might actually get fixed randomly since they're backporting loads of shit into DX11

>major speed issues in a few places when using OGL HW rendering (Extra Arena, levels with heat distortion effects, level with lot of transparency and load of depth lookups like the intro level)

>vertical wall shadows in a few place for SL

Nexus/LR I haven't done yet but they had little issues last I tried, mostly the HUD being broken and general slowness.

>>14702981

Do Earthsiege 1 and 2 downloads work fine on modern OS or do you have to do a ton of pain in the ass messing with it? Getting MW3 to work decently was a fucking nightmare.

>>14703009

I've never gotten ES1 to work properly, ES2 can probably get run though Dos

http://www.sierrahelp.com/

There's some patches and installers here that can help with setup

Though, no music with the games

>>14702660

They're probably going to poz this 15 year old game with Denuvo. Konami is no longer capable of doing anything right.

>>14703018

Last time ZoE was handled by just Konami we got the ZoE HD collection, and iirc someone had to go out of his way to make them ask hexadrive to fix their shit.

>>14702981

>>14703009

>>14703014

Just use this. It's ES2 set up for use with modern OS's. I actually have a good number of pretty old games if anybody is interested.

>>14703186

Forgot link because I'm a tired wageslave.

https://mega.nz/#!Y55RHRBC!7XwkxCv-Zu9zG0bHyO-vSn5dzu-hel-dFfqHQPMONvQ

>>14703186

>I actually have a good number of pretty old games if anybody is interested.

no need to be shy, anon, go ahead.

>>14703871

>Tell me more.

Outside of >>14702988 there's not much more to tell, I still have to finsih testing SL before moving on.

>Will graphical glitches in Nexus be fixed?

>Will Last Rave properly scale in hard ware mode?

I'd need to check those two more fully but right now I can tell you that Nexus doesn't seem particularly broken outside of the radar, runs rather decently compared to 3/SL even.

LR on the other hand has issues, any and all black loading screen will cause VRAM usage spikes the which of like I have never seen in my life (750MB to over 7.5GB when upscaling or 3.2GB when using native res) and there's a disgusting filter that prevents you from truly getting the "upscaled" look (meaning that the game does weird stuff and that it's probably unfixable without a specific fix for that game and I doubt that's gonna happen), other than that if you turn higher res in the middle of a mission it runs fine and you gain a tiny bit of detail on stuff but you better turn that shit off before the result screen because the spikes are intense

>Where can I read on this?

The PCSX2 github repo, which is where I spammed basically every issue µI could find with a couple exceptions because I know they ain't getting fixed

>>14702623

>might be a few issues getting fixed in the near future

>PCSX2

Its never going to happen. The PCSX2 devs say shit like that all the time.

>>14704750

.>Its never going to happen.

But it already has.

>>14704759

>But it already has.

What do you mean?

All of your issues on the github page are still open.

>>14704768

>All of your issues on the github page are still open.

And several of those are just waiting for the patch to be pushed to the gameDB, and you can already fix it yourself right now if you really want.

>>14704770

>And several of those are just waiting for the patch to be pushed to the gameDB

Not all of them and that patch isn't going to get pushed anytime soon either.

>>14704774

>Not all of them

Yeah I would almost use "a few" or "several of those" to describe the amount of issues getting fixed.

>that patch isn't going to get pushed anytime soon either.

>Trust me my dad works at PCSX2

You can fix it yourself if you're in a hurry.

>>14704778

>>Trust me my dad works at PCSX2

Nigger I've been reporting bugs and glitches to PCSX2 for years now

Not to mention these are game specific hacks which could break other shit in the game.

>>14704785

>Nigger I've been reporting bugs and glitches to PCSX2 for years now

>Trust me I work at PCSX2

Considering you don't seem to know the first thing about the gameDB, how it works and why the patches to it shouldn't take long to push unless someone is procrastinating I'm gonna go with either you can't report a bug well enough, you never actually did report anything or you only used the forums which are basically ignored at this point

>Not to mention these are game specific hacks which could break other shit in the game.

Rounding and Clamping mode aren't "game specific hacks" you're thinking of CRC hacks, not to mention the GameDB works in the way it does specifically because of possible bad interactions with some specific settings for those in some games, and you should already know to change back to default when you switch games if you're gonna fiddle manually.

>>14704796

>shouldn't take long to push unless someone is procrastinating

First time to the rodeo eh?

>Rounding and Clamping mode aren't "game specific hacks"

Rounding and clamping to "fix" specific sections of a game are game specific hacks. They end up breaking other parts of the same game.

Keep on hoping on your limping dog I guess. I gave up on it long ago.

>>14704805

>First time to the rodeo eh?

Nope

>Rounding and clamping to "fix" specific sections of a game are game specific hacks.

That's not what game specific hacks are, manually patching out a drawcall in a specific game like with CRC hack is game specific, changing the way the emulated EE clamps or round floating point numbers is about as generic a hack you're ever gonna find.

>They end up breaking other parts of the same game.

Or not, in which case you report they don't because you've properly tested it.

>>14702613

>Weapon

>CLANGAUSSRIFLE

>>14702712

Why do people always shit on ZoE1? The story wasn't great but it was fun.

>>14704972

Different genres entirely.

GB is more of a musou/no more heroes game.

>>14702851

You can change the perspective to 1st person you autist.

>>14704968

>Why do people always shit on ZoE1

Because its a demo to ZoE2 sold at a full price.

>>14705173

It already did that with that arena abortion from kikestarter. I wish someone would make a new VOTOMS game, or a Code Geass one, or really, just make a new setting entirely. Small mechs with spinners are my fetish.

Now that I think about it either FLAG or Gasaraki would make for pretty cool games too.

>>14705180

And because the protagonist is genuinely fucking terrible, even by the low standards set by Japanese mech stories. He must bleed soy.

>>14705212

I never got to appreciate Patlabor 2..

but I guess it's only because I've watched GitS, Avalon, Jin Roh.

Same director, same music.. basically the same feel and the same kind of plot.

>>14704740

>>14702623

>there might be a few issues getting fixed in the near future

What made you say that? AC was never in priority list.

Was really skeptical of the new battletech game but after a quick pirate I'm having a pretty good time so far. Luckily the SJW shit doesn't really matter when you're playing the actual game. Just don't expect to get immersed in the world of the inner sphere.

>>14707342

They fix what's easy to fix, turns out Armored Core had some of those, pretty just "you gotta use that setting" tier shit but no one has ever documented or even tested those so I thought it wouldn't hurt reporting it and there's one contributor that said he's gonna pull those on the automatic settings so you don't have to touch shit, not much but now if you play in SW there's basically no difference between the actual console and PCSX2

>>14707607

>Benefit of emulation is to go beyond what real console can possibly do.

Reduced slowdown and loadtimes is good enough for me, changing resolution would be good if like in CEMU it almost never broke anything, not that I don't use it but I generally just switch backl to software whenever I see anything wrong.

>Pic 2

Do yourself a favor, "unscale point and lines" exists for a reason

>>14709006

HAWKEN had fun gameplay but was too heavily pay to win.

>>14707362

fuck off with your kike shit

>>14709057

I didn't even know about this.

Played it during the early days and only briefly when they rolled out the microwave bot for beginners instead of giving you 3 genuine mechs right out of the gate. Yeah, the P2W was obvious at that point.

>>14709057

HOMOSEXUAL ROBOTS

>>14709063

Buying bots wasn't the worst of it, after all the starting choice was good and you could by whichever ONE you wanted in a reasonable time. The worst I saw (still early on) was the consummables. I forget now exactly what they did, but they were equivalent to health potions in that using them made you about twice as effective for a single fight. You could buy them with earned currency too, but not enough to actually afford to use them and you wouldn't be able to buy mechs and other shit if you did.

>>14709006

There was a time that I really enjoyed it, never put a dime into it, was in the alpha tests way way back (iirc they drew your name in lots to see who could get access), thought it was fine for what it was, a little arena shooter. I stopped playing when they brought it to steam (in beta I think) because there was an update that like halved the TTK and it upset me.

I played it again a year or so after and had some good fun with it for a few weeks, I got really good with it, unlocked every mech I think you could get for free (thought I found a couple of the low tier and one of the starting mechs to be the best/most fun).

Sad it's dead but I think it was just mismanaged into the ground, and I've moved on.

>>14709094

I don't remember consumables being this jewish (or at least I never had trouble affording them) but my memory isn't the best.

>>14709006

Hawken's development cycle was pretty weird, wasn't it? I remember following the game, intrigued by the early footage, and then it just disappeared for a while before getting picked up and launched by some scummy little F2P company. There wasn't a great deal of content, at all. I suppose the original developers couldn't get any interest from big publishers so they just sold off the assets for cheap or something.

>>14709006

i played it years ago, it was pretty much titan fall but with only titan and free

>>14708893

Basically because Battletech the game doesn't actually appeal to casuals. People attach themselves to the battletech license because they FEEL that it's a series for people who like tactics, or complexity, or to basically virtue signal that they aren't casuals. A lot of the modern battletech fanbase is basically reddit tier "xddd stompy robots!!" manchildren who only care about the games themselves superficially.

I played a lot of mechwarrior: living legends before the new mod team (of community members) decided to start updating it. Most of the people playing it were very chill and we discussed the game and could talk about it in its own terms, and not in terms of really the greater battletech license. I never cared about the lore because the game ignored it at convenience in order to be a decent game.

When the updates started however, we got all these complete casuals joining the community, basically RPing as if they loved battletech (but only ever played MW:O) and people talking about how great the "stompy robots" are. It was seriously like a bunch of children pretending to like something because their cool older brother told them it was cool 20 years ago.

Even on /v/ in the early Battletech 2018 threads, before it was revealed just how pozzed the game was, people said things like "why aren't they making it 1:1 board game, that's what the battletech fans WANT". They were ironically correct, and when people brought up megamek, you got fucking crickets.

My conclusion is that the modern battletech 'fan' doesn't actually like or care about the board game, they just like the mechs, and the prestige of the series. They won't subject themselves to megamek because it doesn't have any graphics beyond the overhead board. As the recent battletech 2018 game proves, people will buy anything with the franchise name on it, but I'm more sickened by the people who ought to know better, the aforementioned people who came from MW:O (and go on about how bad it is and preach to the choir about how MWLL is better) and now play MWLL are now talking about how excited they are for MW5.

tl;dr battletech the license has the prestige of being a hardcore smart game for smart people because of the board game but most modern fans don't actually care about the board game itself beyond being able to quote a few things from the wiki

>>14709815

How is the Catapult supposed to get up if it falls down?

>>14709815

>where normalfag public views anime robots as overtly flamboyant and childish and naturally gravitate towards more grounded and militaristic franchise

Its the opposite

Normalfag public eats mechas right up. Western mechs are pretty much dead.

>>14709815

I think the two complement one another nicely and it's easy to consume one type and move on to the other when the first gets old.

>>14709866

So what if I'm a big bully robot and I kick it in the shin?

>>14709891

robots like that don't really exist in mechwarrior

>>14709877

>Normalfag public eats mechas right up.

Usually normalniggers consume entry-level memeshit, e.g. Durling in the franxx, Evangaylion, Gayren Lagann or Code Gayass, half of these are barely even /m/. The plebs don't even care for the mechs and mech design, it is just that low-quality shounenshit, romanceshit, "wuifus", drama and memes attract them.

>Western mechs are pretty much dead.

>What are Titanfall, Bayformers, Voltron, Battletech

>>14709941

<Battletech

>>14709941

Didn't Titanfall flop pretty hard?

>>14709941

>Titanfall

In the process of dying

>Bayformers

>shitty action movies propped up by China

>mechs

>Voltron

literally started as chopped up japanese anime. As western as power rangers.

>Battletech

<Battletech

>>14709006

i had a good time with, it was my first fps

one day, i'll hopefully make a freeware/opensource clone of it.

>>14709057

Reloaded staff was ass.

>>14710333

Cool trips, but titanfall is trash, its sequel is trash, and I sincerely hope you pirated it.

>>14710333

>But its getting another sequel and its sales ended up being decent for both entries in the series

You know how that ended up for Dead Space, C&C, Mass Effect, Dragon Age, Wing Commander and whatever else?

>>14710352

>imblying titan shit started off as something good

>>14710344

I didn't play either game and you may think its trash but that doesn't mean its dying.

Despite EA being idiots with its release date sales ended up being fine and its getting a third entry into the series.

>>14710352

>He only points out EA's failures

Still doesn't mean Titanfall is dying

>>14710369

>>He only points out EA's failures

You know what all those failures had in common?

You know who owns and publishes Titanfall?

>>14709903

I'm pretty sure one of the standout features of the Atlas is that it has so much "muscle" power it can basically lift any mech and throw it like a sack of potatoes.

What the various Battletech games never really touch upon is that melee is actually a thing, you can run over to an enemy and punch/kick him. The Hatchetman comes with a nice axe for just this very purpose.

>>14710234

What a disgusting design. How the fuck does that thing even move with arms that long and heavy?

>>14710459

>I'm pretty sure one of the standout features of the Atlas is that it has so much "muscle" power it can basically lift any mech and throw it like a sack of potatoes

The thing is smaller mechs are way faster than the heavier mechs

>>14710473

What's that to do with anything I said?

>>14710708

They're scum because they are space SJWs.

>>14710708

>3000 euro bucks for a figurine

>no mention of scale

you could buy 30 figmas with that.

>>14703904

>>14703908

AC babby here, I've always wondered what proper fast-paced gameplay looked like. How do I git this gud?

>>14713266

Here is how:

>configure your controls properly.

>learn how to manage your thruster

>learn how to aim

That's really it. You see, when you launch , you keep your momentum even when you don't use your thrusters. You don't actually have to keep your thrusters on all the time mid-air.

You also have a shocking amount of control mid-air, even when not using thrusters. You ought to notice how I use my thrusters in the videos now.

Another very important thing is this: use your thrusters before landing. That way, you don't have a landing animation and basically glide into moving on the ground again. It's a bit janky in the PS1 games but later installment make it smoother. If you don't do that, you'll lose all momentum since teh landing animation makes you completely stationary for about a second.

>>14707362

Yeah real fun to watch animations as 70% of the play time.

>>14704968

>CLANGAUSSRIFLE

?

>>14713321

You called?

>>14714234

Top right corner.

>>14709877

Mostly because the west doesn't really know what to do with mechs.

>>14709941

>four franchises means mechs are still going strong

>three of the four are franchises that have existed before anons on this board were born

>they are also franchises that are being dragged out for nostalgia bucks

>>14709941

>Titanfall

It's Call of Duty with mech skins. I loved the mech designs, but Titanfall is a Call of Duty reskin with a few gimmicks.

>Bayformers

Not mechs.

>Voltron

Isn't that some shitty cartoon no one gives a shit about? There's certainly no Voltron games getting made, let alone a proper mech sim.

>Battletech

The putrid carcass is busy being exploited by a Jew and a bunch of greedy faggots that would make the Jew blush.

>>14705837

play the single missions, that shit is full of ambushes.

>>14714269

Why would you compare a game with optional battle scenes designed to entertain by mimicking shows to a game that provides 1 second delays between giving an action, a unit turning to perform the action, the enemy registering being hit, the pilot acknowledging the hit, and control being granted back to the player?

One is a skippable yet enjoyable scene, the other is actual idle time.

>>14710733

>Imperialistic aliens based almost exclusively on their factual biological differences who keep the majority of fire caste women as mobile baby factories

They are probably the least SJW of any 40k faction and are less SJW than the modern world. What you're looking for is Craftworld Eldar along with their beliefs that they are always right and nobody else can comprehend so they might as well not explain.

To put it into perspective, opening a door for the later would get you chastised because "she could have done it herself", whereas the former would note that you were born to do it.

Have any of you guys played War Tech Fighters? Does it look promising as is? I know it's Early Access, but how is it as it is now?

For reference:

https://store.steampowered.com/app/630030/agecheck

>>14713248

or 1/4 of a jpegs from scam citizen :^)

>Thread gives me nostalgia, decide to play MW2 since I never finished it as a kid.

>Spend 2 days trying to get MW2 to un-invert the mouse.

>Nothing works, all other people recommend is literally the first results from google parroted over and over and over again.

Fuck it nostalgia's overrated; I'd rather play MWO than waste more time with this.

>>14714716

>Skippable

What is the point of playing SRW if you skip all those animations?

Just to watch digits going up and down?

>>14718694

dude, just flip the mouse

any tips for verdict day? I kinda suck at keeping my costs low and can't afford to experiment with builds.

>>14703186

can you get mw3 to work on modern systems?

>>14708893

Because the piece of shit refuses to work ever.

>>14709469

>who came from MW:O (and go on about how bad it is and preach to the choir about how MWLL is better) and now play MWLL are now talking about how excited they are for MW5.

now thats pure cancer.

>>14719281

I've never had a problem getting the game to run in the 15 years I've been playing.

You sure you installed java?

Son of a fuck instead of just letting me upgrade from a leopard class dropship to say, a classic union. They give me a fantasy lostech super ship brought online in only a few weeks by a hijab wearing muslim super engineer girl. Would have been so much better had they just given us a freeroam merc campaign.

>>14718925

How modern?

>>14719767

>>14719767

Yes

>>14719994

Windows 7 x64.

It runs and all but then there are physics bugs that render game, well not unplayble, but uninjoyable.

>>14721320

you havent use the cheeki breeki quadmech pack? so far i have manage to run MW4 and all its expansions, after i finish mercenaries, I will play mw3

>>14718925

>can you get mw3 to work on modern systems?

just installed mw3 and it just works, have you used the quadruple mech pack yet?

>>14721744

>>14726812

I'm pretty sure this cheeki breeki version has physics issue. It's not in tutorial but in some early missions.

How far you're in?

>>14702613

Get the Mektek installer for MW4M

>>14726985

Install alcohol 120% instead :^)

>>14727009

i know you are baiting but it comes with the installer, doesnt let you use something else.

>>14726985

>he doesn't just use a portable mounting software

RIP chromehounds

>>14728229

RIP mecha games generally. Do good mecha games even still come out? Most recent ones I can think have mecha but don't actually focus on that aspect at all. The fact that mechs are available is merely incidental.

>>14728314

Battletech :^)

>>14714363

>implying mounting nothing but 3 Clan Gauss Rifles is bad

Even the IS see the wisdom of this philosophy, which is why the AWS-8Q exists. It's 3 PPCs on an Assault chassis.

>>14728638

It's actually worth a pirate once the bugs get fixed although good luck enjoying the characters. Still, the missions are decent and challenging, getting good Mech chassis at the end of said missions feel nice and the MWO assets are integrated well with fully visible weapons.

>>14728638

:^)))))

>>14728692

If you say so, anon.

>>14728314

>Do good mecha games even still come out?

you need to learn moonrunes.

>>14727886

explain.

>>14728681

>CLANGAUSSRIFLES

>CLANGAUSS

>CLANG

>>14728741

>https://monova.org/1A139318FAA15F4AB5BF4B48735D43A531FBBE6D

just use this, if the video driver an hero while you are playing a mission, just play it in window mode by pressing ctrl-enter

>finding pc games in a thrift store

pretty rare shit, I also rescue games in those places.

>>14728820

>Literally just look online for a portable iso mounting software. Last time i had to mount an ISO, I did so and found pic related. It worked so I kept it.

anon, The cheeki breeki installer is forcing me to use daemon tools, I already have wincdemu installed.

>>14718925

Use dgvoodoo2 and set the FPS cap to 60 in Rivatuner; works perfectly.

>>14718925

That russian installer works. I think it caps the FPS and does some other shit too.

>>14726868

in the tutorial i run over a vehicle killed it and my mech bounced a bit backwards.

Anyone play Heavy Gear 2?

I remember when I was little I could never get past like the third mission or something, would always crash. Been struggling to find a torrent or download that actually works.

>>14732377

check the share thread.

>>14732706

Nobody gives a shit about your shit taste faggot.

>>14732884

>Just saw that you can also customize the inner frame

pls do not fuck me Bamco

>>14718813

If you enjoyed Formula Front but wish you still had to manage funds and unlock parts and weapons by completing "Shoot all the targets" or "Go fast" kinda missions multiple times, then play Ninebreaker.

Otherwise it's mostly just for the AC collector and not really worth playing.

Why did Hawken died?

The time I played it was fun. Every thing seems nice back then. Was thinking of replaying it recently and found out it died.

What's the cause of it?

>>14733752

When will they learn?

>>14733762

Since trannytech is somehow selling probably never.

>>14728862

>daemon tools

what version of daemon tools is the least cancerous?

>>14709469

isnt there a game were you can make your own tabletop games and there is a battletech mod for it?

>>14732988

>Wasting millions in side projects like comics, movies, VR, when the game isn't finished.

>Wasting hundreds of hours of man power on a match making system that would never work even if did have an acceptable design in theory because the game's population was always too low.

>Flip flopping on how they wanted to do customization, even years after the open beta release.

>Speed mechs with burst weapons were the most OP classes in the game by far.

>Healing loadouts were the most OP loadouts by far.

>Combine the last two for absolutely No Fun Allowed mode unless you had the same loadout.

>Technicians single handedly broke the game, even worse than bursty speed mechs. If the other team had one, and you didn't, then GG unless the other team was full of mouth breathers.

This was all before the Steam update, where the game play bombed so hard it bankrupted the first development team.

And apparently a disgruntled anonymous intern once revealed to the "veteran" community that the code was so spaghetti it was impossible to balance mechs, unless the tiny team was willing to put in the effort to rewrite whole chunks of code with the beta already released. Somehow changing one weapon on one mech would make the same changes to the same weapon on every other mech. And somehow secondary weapons assigned to this or that mech were "locked in" to that mech, making them impossible to edit in any way.

>>14702613

Whoever made that Quadrology pack at RG Catalyst deserves the fucking Nobel Peace Prize.

Getting all of those games (besides maybe the first) to run by themselves is stupidly-fucking hard. This is the closest we'll ever get to a GOG re-release.

>>14732580

Thank Konami for cancelling it.

>>14734383

And here I thought Planetside 2 was bad. Thanks for the info, anon.

>>14734383

>>Combine the last two for absolutely No Fun Allowed mode unless you had the same loadout.

So kinda like what happened with Chromehounds towards the end.

Your options were

>Tank treads and triple singles/double doubles

>Naqas and grenades

>God fucking help you if you don't fully encase your cockpit in armor and spacers.

Meanwhile I'm trying to make cool looking/fun HOUNDs and keep getting my dick ripped off and handed to me.

>Mech that uses smoke grenades and pile bunkers to sneak up on fools and thermal vision to see, like a ninja

>Mech that uses napalm howitzers to burninate the countryside

>Buying like 10 rotors and trying to make your mech fly

>Trying to make Mechwarrior mechs

All worthless compared to covered cockpits, stick legs, and cannon stacks.

Most fun I have ever had in an online game, though.

>Don't really have a team so I mostly just comp-stomp

>Comp-stomping alone was stressful because even if you avoided the enemy HOUND and found their base without a hassle, the enemy could still return and might be a class that counters yours

>Rare chance that I actually end up in a match with a human player was always exciting (I usually lost)

RIP in pepperoni, Chromehounds.

I am thinking about starting Blood of Kerensky tonight. I really enjoy the MechWarrior games and I just want to read about the lore in a way that isn't just bullet points and summaries.

>>14734611

Does that version of Vengeance work properly? I am having massive troubles of getting it to even install correctly, apperently due to the retarded DRM they decided to use with it.

>>14735423

mechwarrior 4 vengeance?

yeah, just finished playing all MW4 in windows 7, it just works

>>14735809

Do the mech packs work? I don't know if I am retarded, am I doing something wrong or if there is something wrong with my machine but I can't get the mechs or weapons added by the mech packs to show up. As far as I can tell, they seem to install alright but they don't show up in the mechlab.

>>14729396

mechpriest if you post your LL webms again I will track you down and eat your hard drive

>>14735826

>Do the mech packs work?

i didnt install any mech packs, i just played vanilla.

Any anons have the recommended list and guide to which game to play for Armored Core Series

>>14738472

Thanks anon

>>14738472

Is that bit about 4A's price actually accurate? A cursory glance at ebay and amazon has used copies be around 20 bucks, at most, with only brand new copies being upwards of 80.

>>14741050

That is correct. I got my new copy for 20 buckaroonies.

3D Dot Heros is expensive though.

>>14741050

I got a copy for 360 for like $15 at my local used game shop, picked it up on a whim and was so happy I did. I liked it so much after the first mission I went right back to the store and bought a copy of AC 4 as well so I could play it before FA. I've been planning to go back and buy a PS2 just to play the other AC games I can get my hands on (And also so I can play Zone of the Enders 2 without screen tearing). I would be excited for the PC port of ZoE 2 but I just know they're going to poz it with Denuvo fitgirl better get on that shit once there's a crack

>>14734679

If I remember right you can take it at your own pace.

>>14753978

Play MWLL instead

>>14728808

What good japanese only mecha games are there?

>>14728741

>>14754739

>>14754768

Oh dear lord don't tell me we got another Source Code Disc event on our hands.

>>14728741

>>14754739

>unpublished work

>not for release

>microsoft confidential

I'm guessing it's a review copy as internals wouldn't have the disc art. Either way you better rip & upload so tcrf autists can check for differences.

>>14754797

>>14754768

"going gold" is when a dev ceases development and prepares to send discs to press.

>>14754797

>Source Code Disc

nah, its just a review disc something

>>14754739

>Pretty sure that's it, man. I only remember like two or three songs.

really? ok i guess i will just loop the songs so i can skip installing daemon tools

>>14755077

Gundam had some pretty cool mech games, like Climax UC, where you play a grunt in the OYW (either Fed or Zeon), marry a waifu and then play as your child. There's also an RTS for Gundam on the PSP, the various Gihren's Greed games (Hearts of Iron with turn based tactical battles) though the post OYW content for Zeon is seriously lacking compared to the Fed side thanks to those Bacmo cucks.

Macross has Ace Frontier on the PSP which is pretty cool (and has a shitload of content), as well as a PS2 game for the original TV show. There's also a boatload of more obscure games, like the sequels for RAD (one on the PS2 and the other on the NDS), Medabot games (do they count as mechs?), the sequel to Danbōru Senki (we only got the first one on the 3DS). Hell, I forgot more Japan only mech games that I can remember.

>>14758002

What would you suggest, then?

I think that this would be appropriate: a team-based with toggleable arcade or casual mode flight simulator which requires you for precise pinpoint gattai with your teammates into a Getter 1/2/3, where each player controls the parts of the transformed Getter Machine they're in to move, attack, block, dodge, anything, or all commands are issued from the Getter Machine on the top, and actions like dodging/blocking/attacks/special attacks require synchronized input (or QTE fot special attacks).

Also you can play solo with AI co-pilots and suffer from worse perfomance and weaker damage output.

>>14758453

>Some things are best left unmade. In the current state of vidya it would be a failure one way or the other.

I know, right? Let a man dream.

There's just no way that something like Getter Robo will get its own official game ever again, especially with a gameplay that is non-friendly for normalniggers.

I got a bit autistic about it lately, to the point where I try to recreate Getter/Getter Robo forms in various games that let you create/customize robots: AC series, Custom Robo series, Front Mission serirs, you name it. I haven't tried the Gundam Breaker series yet, though. I'm not strapped for originality, it's just that there is not enough GETTER in this world.

Yet the best game for creating a GR would be Machinecraft. Its customization options are freaking insane. I succeeded at making a crappy super robot there so I got the hang of it. I could make the Getter Machines there with the transformations and combining, though the shitty physics in the engine could make everything weird. I'll probably dump screenshots with this horrible shit 2-3 months later in some other /v/'s /m/ game thread.

>>14728741

>>14754797

Upload that shit to mega or something.

>>14758002

>What's the point of being mech game if it doesn't play like one?

That's like playing Afterburner and asking "what's the point of it being a jet if it doesn't control like one?" The fact is, a lot of mecha are just action heroes in a robot skin. And, aside from when the pilots individually control the separate machines, Getter is no different. It's just a super hero that they say uses all these sticks, levers, and buttons to control. I can assure you that no one, even Ishikawa, put any thought into how the pilots actually make their humanoid robot do all the shit it does.

>>14759533

You are confusing good mecha with anime shit mate.

Good mecha should give you a feeling of giant walking tanks, not some dude in a fancy samurai armor with a laser sword and a rifle.

What's the point of a game about giant walking tanks if its going to play like a DMC clone?

>>14759997

I think you just don't like super robots man

>>14760004

I like Gurren Laggan and other good super robots. Shit can be plenty fun.

Its just not stuff like FLAG, Gasaraki, Patlabor and other such "walking tanks" style mecha.

>>14759997

>>14760051

>I like Gurren Laggan and other good super robots. Shit can be plenty fun.

So why is it a problem that mecha games inspired by such shows don't play like tanky mechs? That's like expecting a race car game to control like driving a semi. Games like Z.O.E. aren't trying to replicate piloting tanky mechs. They're trying to replicate the feeling of intense, high-energy action you get out of shows like Gunbuster and some of the sillier Gundams.

>>14759997

You know that it is not a requirement for a mecha game to be a piloting simulator? Especially if we are talking about Japanese super robots.

Making a Mechwarrior-gameplay Getter Robo game would be just weird, to say the least.

Pretty sure it is possible for a games with "mecha skin" to be felt like you control the robot by restricting the movement a bit (like in AC or EDF) and making the interactions with ground/objects/enemy full of dust, tremor and CLANGing (like in R.A.D.).

>>14760269

>>14760314

I'm not demanding they play like tank simulators, I'm questioning the relevance of that kind of gameplay and universes, in a thread ostensibly about games based on the walking tanks type of robots.

>>14760582

I could understand that, if this were a fresh thread, but it isn't. Zone of the Enders was the third post of the thread, and it was readily accepted into it. We've heavily discussed Armored Core, which, while not exactly a zippy action series, isn't exactly a tanky series, either, especially 4 and For Answer. It seems silly to question their relevancy in a lengthy thread where they've already been discussed.

>>14760383

You need to use software to create an image of the disc and upload that. I haven't done that in years but if memory serves me right cdrtfe worked well for me.

Do transformers games count as mech games

>>14760949

Mech implies the act of someone piloting the robot. Otherwise, Nier Automata would be a mech game.

>>14760986

The word "mech" itself is just shortened "mecha". In Nipponese language the word means anything mechanical. What I want to say is that considering an unmanned sentient giant robot a mech is not too much of a stretch. You know, Transformers' 80's series and the later ones had considerable influence on the genre. At the very least it is honorary mecha. Also humans can pilot/drive Transformers' vehicle modes and there were kids in Masterforce who could take robot forms. So it's still mecha even by your standarts, even if barely.

Bayformers are shit though.

>>14761362

This isn't Japan, though, and he wasn't asking about "mecha" games, he was asking about "mech" games. There's a distinction, here, in the west. I would consider Transformers to be mecha, much like the Brave series, but Cybertronians are not mechs. The closest they get to being mechs are headmasters, and that's a stretch.

>that armored core nexus true ending

Why is it so bad? Did they not know what to do after the Genobee battle?

>>14761443

>mech and mecha are different

Um, what?

Are you sure you are not confusing Mechwarriors' 'Mechs with mechs?

>>14761471

Yeah, it was weird and FromSoftware didn't even gave players a chance.

>beat the Nineball rip-off

>cutscene appears

>huh, what? okay

>get spawned at that fucking rooftop in my Gundam-esque AC

>see the swarm

>oh, okay

>1 minute of dodging, shield blocking and shooting from my 1000 ammo machinegun later

>the zerg rush is still intense

>lose about 2000 AP

>oh, shit

>see that drones act quite retarded

>dash and hide behind the small column at the corner

>drones from the big main spawn point can't touch me but drones from the additional side spawn points fly straight ahead at me

>block and shoot those down with everything I had while remaining stationary behind the cover

>discard the missile launcher

>discard the gun

>only solid shield and EO are left

>~1300 AP left

>suddenly the spawning stops

>oh yeah, I did it

>AC Nexus: no you did not

>the screen fades to black

>everything implies that I died

>tfw survived the hardest part of the game but it gave no fucks

I still liked it though.

>>14759533

Afterburner is shit.

There seems to be an inconsistency between the Mechwarrior games and the novels.

I'm currently rereading Decision at Thunderrift, which is somewhat noteworthy for being the first novel.

The novel is filled with mentions of mechs rolling over their shoulder to evade shots, bracing on hands and knees after losing balance, moving upper arms to take a shot intended for torso or head etc.

A Wasp is even mentioned going down on a bended knee, sighting down his laser akin to a gunslinger.

Overall the entire combat seems more fitting for Battletech's roots in Japanese Mecha, though I'm not particularly familiar with it.

>>14764867

It's easier to write about mechs doing that, than it is to implement it into a simulator-like control scheme.

>>14764927

For sure but with most people knowing the games and not the rest of the franchise I feel as if there are wrong expectations of a proper battletech game.

Aside from it being interesting in of itself.

I've been trying to play Mechwarrior 2 using the Quadrology pac, but I can't seem to get the mouse y-axis inverted. I've tried the invert mouse fix flag in the launcher, modifying input.map and mouse.map, switching the up/down flag in cockpit controls, nothing seems to work. Anyone else run into this?

>>14758453

>Miyamoto wanted to make a heavy vehicle simulator game with it's own custom controller

>Then Steel Battalion came out and he didn't want to do it anymore

>He only brought up this info, when working on Steel Diver (3DS) because its the closest to his idea now with the various in game submarines being controlled with different buttons, knobs, slide switches controls on the 3DS touch screen.

>I wouldn't be surprised if he ever attempts this idea again it might be with a future Labo mech cockpit controller

>>14766344

>playing with a mouse

go to a second hand store and buy a joystick, anon.

>>14761396

>giant robot in water

That's a bad idea.

>>14708893

I would play the shit out of megamek if it could throw random scenarios/campaigns at me.

Imagine slowly building up a merc company through contracts and salvage.

Buying your own dropships, jumpships, hell even your own damn space station.