03bda3 No.14693042
I got this for free just a few weeks back, is it actually any good? I hear mixed things from anons.
d9f627 No.14693058
>>14693042
Gameplay is pretty mediocre. Plot has a metanarrative about how the MC is a character in a story and has no real agency, and how he is often doing things that go against his own morals.
261fb7 No.14693063
It's pretty good. You should play it
47a213 No.14693075
Gameplay was too weak in my opinion to recommend it. The story is kind of good and I thought some of the meta narrative elements were interesting, but in all honesty you are better off rewatching Apocalypse Now or rereading Heart of Darkness.
592b44 No.14693087
It's pretty much the only good non-Japanese third person shooter I can think of. Play it. Ignore the anons who shit on its writing or being "forced" to choose something they're just missing the point entirely.
2f2efc No.14693089
Play through it right now and don't come back to this thread until you finish the game.
e1a4b8 No.14693105
>>14693042
Gameplay is band and boring.
The game's narrative is too busy sniffing its own farts and beats you over the head with "meta ludonarrative" bullshit. The story isn't anything special, you'll find a better war story from any war film released in the past forty years.
You got it for free because it's shit.
592b44 No.14693112
>>14693105
>The game's narrative is too busy sniffing its own farts and beats you over the head with "meta ludonarrative" bullshit. The story isn't anything special, you'll find a better war story from any war film released in the past forty years.
This is what I meant about the writing going over the heads of most anons.
456d9a No.14693119
>>14693087
>Ignore the anons who shit on its writing or being "forced" to choose something they're just missing the point entirely.
I didn't "miss" the point, I rejected it.
e1a4b8 No.14693153
>>14693087
>>14693112
>it's 2deep4u
There's a difference between a story going over someone's head, and it simply being a simply bad story. Yes, I caught all of the small details, yadda yadda, but that doesn't make the story or the game, good. Take that college freshmen faggotry to reddit and stay there.
25a409 No.14693155
>>14693042
gameplay is shit and the story is just a bad deconstruction of the fps games of the era
e6e3df No.14693163
Mediocre TPS that tries to cover up how bland it is with a pretentious "story". The devs response to their faggot story (HUUUUR JUST TURN OFF THE GAME FOR THE REAL ENDING) makes it worse.
>>14693112
>b-b-but the story is supposed to be pretentious and up its own ass!
Congrats on being an illiterate nigger who can't read books.
e6e3df No.14693172
>>14693105
Wincuck Fagtree needs to be beaten to death with a shovel.
03bda3 No.14693185
>>14693089
On my potato connection I can't afford to download modern games without knowing how good they are first.
>>14693090
>Zero Punctuation
Isn't he compromised?
1295f8 No.14693201
Its pretty decent. Shooting is pretty generic and gameplay-wise it doesn't do anything particularly amazing, and the few neat gameplay mechanics it does have it uses like all of three times in the entire game and then proceeds to promptly forget.
Narrative-wise, its pretty interesting. Most of the controversy stems from people who are paradoxically mad at the game for criticizing itself and the person playing it. The director comes off as kind of a fag, but I thought it was kind of an interesting "character driven" shooter.
cfcabd No.14693259
>>14693042
It's 6/10 gameplay but 9/10 writing.
07417f No.14693265
>shoot this guy
>’’shoot him’’
>you monster i cant believe you shot him
a3c656 No.14693302
>>14693265
It's worse than that.
>"Do we have to [bad thing]?"
>"There's always a choice."
>You don't actually have a choice, and if you try to avoid it the game spawns infinite enemies
>Eventually do [bad thing]
>"You're a monster, you didn't have to do that!"
1295f8 No.14693330
>>14693302
There is only one scenario in the game in which this applies. Its hardly a recurring thing.
Pretty much every "choice" afterwards is Walker hallucinating about something or other, or the game giving you two easy "hard choices" and letting you figure out the third way
a3c656 No.14693380
>>14693330
True, but it instantly disconnected me from the story emotionally for the rest of the game. I didn't feel bad for these people because it wasn't me doing the bad stuff. The game (or its writers) were the guilty party. With that ruined there was just the gameplay, which was okay. Some of the fights with the music going were fun, I'll admit.
ce532c No.14693445
>>14693042
breddy mediocre shooter, breddy interesting writing although if you've read heart of darkness or watched apocalypse now you kinda know what to expect. it's not the 10/10 RULLY MAED ME THINK masterpiece retards think it is but it's definitely interesting. pay special attention to the main character's voice lines and appearance as the game winds on. leave the thread now
03bda3 No.14693454
>>14693445
>leave the thread now
Why?
2f6c22 No.14693477
>>14693105
this image will never not trigger me
788693 No.14693629
>>14693042
it's a shit shooter acording to people who likes shooters but we're suposed to forgive it cus it's done on propouse cus war is hell m'kay and to proove that war is hell the MC commits horrible war crimes during cutscenes where the player has no control but then the game expects the player to feel bad for playing cus the MC did these things during cutscenes without giving you the option to not be a war criminal
nothing but pretentious award bait
2ed63b No.14693661
>>14693185
>Isn't he compromised?
what? got any sauce for that?
43ac59 No.14693680
>>14693454
You are in a rare position of being able to play this game without knowing anything about it. The game itself has problems (big ones, in retrospect), but the longer you stay here the more likely you are to read something which will tarnish your ability to experience it.
Note I said experience, not enjoy. Spec Ops is an interesting and overall noteworthy game, which you should play, but you likely won't have too much fun due to the poor shooting and story which is a bit too pretentious for its own good. It's kind of like watching an Alfred Hitchcock movie: good, but dated. Spec Ops is interesting, but mechanically shallow.
My description may discourage you, but please remember /v/ is /v/ and you should experience this on your own terms first. I will be the third person to tell you: download the game, play the game all the way to the end (there will be a few spots where you might want to quit, but bear with it), and only return to this thread after that. It'll only take you 6-8 hours assuming you aren't awful at shooters.
195fc6 No.14693687
>>14693042
It's a passable cover shooter with a story that was good in theory and poor in execution.
Expect to find yourself railroaded into all your decisions. Don't think too hard about anything, just go along with it. There are certain events that you will not be able to control the outcome for, even if you realize the bad things that your actions will cause. If you accept that fact you'll probably have more fun with it.
cc46a2 No.14693688
>>14693670
He's a country jumping britcuck, he's basically a kike at this point.
e0be08 No.14693861
>>14693042
You're better off watching the entire movie in youtube, and you can at least have a bit of fun with the dead multiplayer.
7334db No.14693886
>>14693687
There are at least two events that actually give you a "good" way to avoid whatever bullshit they want you to do, which makes the ones that don't give you a choice that much more bullshit.
14b721 No.14693893
It's really something you should figure out for yourself by playing it. If you've already seen the spoilers and everything, you may as well not play it.
Once you apply the mouse acceleration patch and take away the story you're left with a mediocre TPS.
I liked it, I also enjoyed my friend squirm after we convinced him to make bad decisions during his stream of this game.
bf522d No.14694087
>>14693042
It's really good unless you're a self inserting faggot, then it might make you butthurt.
850dc8 No.14694114
>>14693042
If the story wasn't meta it'd be better desu
d74efa No.14694193
>>14693042
Holy shit I'll never understand these type of threads. Especially in your case since you got the game for fucking free. Just play the fucking game and find out for yourself if you like it or not. You got it for free so no harm done if you don't like it.
>"hey /v/ i just got this game what can I expect?"
JUST PLAY THE FUCKING GAME
Do you want all the fun parts spoiled for you? These threads are fucking cancer.
97b415 No.14695015
>>14693042
It's good ignore what the brainlets like >>14693265 and >>14693302 who either haven't played it or didn't get it tell you.
879024 No.14695031
>>14693042
>Got it for free WEEKS ago.
>Does not play it.
>Has to ask image boards if its good.
Fuck off retard.
5ac5b8 No.14695057
>>14693042
I dunno, fucking try it
b954fb No.14695147
>>14693042
Nigger, you got it for free. You already have it. Find out for yourself, you lazy fuck. Or are you afraid your opinion might be different from "what /v/ thinks" if you go in blind?
9b1d31 No.14695181
>>14693042
You need to play it.
>mixed things
You're getting mixed opinions now because I believe cuckchan is trying to do a psyop against this game for some reason. The plot and the gameplay are fucking amazing and will stay with you for years after you play it. You're going to love this game and you should think about supporting the developer by buying some of their other games from places like steam afterward.
04a6ed No.14695189
>>14695181
I assume you're shitposting?
The plot and story are interesting but the gameplay is very bland.
5dcbc2 No.14695209
to be honest you must have a pretty high IQ to understand Spec Ops:The Line™
566a6e No.14695334
>>14693042
This >>14694193, although SOTL is especially bad since every faggot and his dog ITT are spoiling the plot. The plot only hits you if you only have minimal meta-knowledge going into, and now its ruined, you may as well not even play the game since now since the gameplay is mediocre.
00dd45 No.14695712
>>14693042
Let me ask you a question anon, have you played Vampire The Masquerade Bloodlines?
Do you know the quest where you are tasked to kill the Thin Blood to uphold the Masquerade?
Do you remember how the quest reward is depending on your choice?
Would you like to play an entire game that is just like that mission, just that you don't have a choice and the game is constantly bashing you over the head with a massage of "You are the monster here for playing this game"?
Because that is basically the entirety of SPEC OPS The Line, think of one of those terrible karma games like InFamous or Fable where who have a choice between the good goy option and the nonsensical sadistic asshole and remove the good goy option.
Fucking games in the 80s had better and more complex plots than this piece of shit.
a8dacb No.14695813
Here's the entire soundtrack ripped directly from the game files, which has a few tracks virtually no other version of the soundtrack has:
https://files.catbox.moe/cgddi8.zip
Enjoy, faggots.
0d2b70 No.14695843
It's a pretty clever narrative about modern wargames, but the gameplay itself is "ok," at best.
fc3590 No.14695861
Shit gameplay, good writing that is ruined by the main writer going "YOU, THE PLAYER, ARE BAD FOR PLAYING THIS GAME" and heavily disliked because of it
If you dissociate or disregard that shit, the character writing, choices and even the direction is pretty good and subtle, especially if you go in with no expectations.
0c2afb No.14695865
terrible design because it forced you into being an asshole by design and then start moralizing about it, faggot give me a choice or fuck off
1885c3 No.14695879
It's a shit game, but the auto shotgun feels pretty good.
If you want real modern warfare, play ArmA 2 or ArmA 3.
f4bc65 No.14695883
Collect some faggots and let's get a multiplayer game going.
e41a05 No.14695884
>>14693112
Reminder the lead writer admitted he pulled most of the narrative out of his ass and that almost the entire game is up to interpretation. It's not 2deep4u, it's just you gloating about how much smarter you are than everybody else.
a8dacb No.14695896
>>14695856
I know, I was surprised at first too, the game's music files are oddly small, the largest is the credits song, Hendrix's 1983, which is around 15 minutes in total and takes up around 15MBs while being split into 7 files.
The First Vietnamese War is 3:26 long, but only takes up 1.57MB, but that's likely due to the distortion present on it.
cc46a2 No.14695993
>>14695896
Most game rips don't warrant more than VBR2 honestly, it's all sequenced shit and you have no idea about the bitrate the instruments themselves were recorded at.
d11984 No.14696006
Super boring cover shooter with repetitious combat. I'm lucky I got it for free too.
14b721 No.14696097
>>14695896
it's because it's all just compressed MP3 shit instead of FLAC.
54e694 No.14696174
>>14693042
babbys first WAR IS BAD story. The best/worst part about it are all the people who try to claim how great the game actually is and try to come up with idiotic narratives and plotlines that totally exist even though the devs themselves have clearly talked about their intents and what the game was meant to express. All the messages are talking to the player, not the character according to the devs. If you want to win, just shut the game off bro! Just ask yourself it the devs are happy that so many people won their game by never buying it in the first place.
14b721 No.14696234
>>14696174
>WAR IS BAD story
it's WAR GAMES ARE BAD, dumb ass
cc46a2 No.14696275
>>14696097
Video game soundtracks nowadays are the equivalent of someone converting youtube embeds into FLAC and uploading it as an album on what.cd.
54e694 No.14696711
>>14696234
thank you for proving my point about people trying to come up with idiotic narratives about what the game was """"""""""really"""""""""" about that goes against what the devs flat out said.
14b721 No.14696827
>>14696711
>spaghetti is nothing but dough and water, don't let people tell you otherwise
<it also needs salt
>SEE WHAT I MEAN THANKS FOR PROVING MY POINT GAWD
please
dabc8d No.14696933
Absolute garbage.
>Play game
>Get railroaded down inhumane choices
>DURRR SEE HOW MUCH OF A SHITTY PERSON YOU ARE AND HOW WAR IS BAD? SHOULD HAVE JUST STOPPED PLAYING THE GAME
Wouldn't use this garbage as toilet paper.
3d4660 No.14697103
>>14693042
The action is great, lots of shooting. If you don't really like shooters or are emasculated due to modern times you might find the game pretty boring.
54e694 No.14697105
>>14696827
>n-n-n-no goyim! don't you see? even though the creators told you exactly what this is, it's not that! no, you see it's actually this totally different thing! the awful gameplay is DESIGNED to be awful!
Fucking Call of Duty did a better job of deconstructing itself than Spec Ops, a game fanboys claim was designed to deconstruct Call of Duty.
14b721 No.14697108
>>14697105
ok fine, jeez dude calm down
link me the interviews
36e15a No.14697119
>>14697103
>shilling for pretencious art house anti-war pseudo story
>calls others emasculated
Back to >>>/cuckchan/
3d4660 No.14697138
>>14697119
Nah, people who are complaining about its narrative's focus are just self-inserting themselves and think the game is trying to tell them how bad of a human being the player is, not the character you play as.
51f154 No.14697150
>>14693886
>There are at least two events that actually give you a "good" way to avoid whatever bullshit they want you to do
Them being?
The only real choices in the game are wether you go for the civilians or that CIA dude and shooting the mob near the end or not. Really only the later has a "good" way to solve it.
There's also shooting the Ami near the beginning or not and if you shoot the soldier or the water thief but since none of them have any real consequence whatsoever and aren't important for the narrative, I wouldn't count them.
14b721 No.14697237
>>14697150
You don't have to choose either the soldier or the water thief, you can just walk past them OR kill the snipers if you're good enough
when the mob surrounds you you also have the option to shoot in the air to scare them off
e6e3df No.14698197
>>14697145
>i-im not a shill I just have genuinely shit taste!
That's pretty fucking sad.
>>14697138
>think the game is trying to tell them how bad of a human being the player is
Except the developer's intended to do that too, by telling player's to turn off the game for a "secret fifth ending". Face it, you're defending a pile of trash that's up its own ass about insulting the players' intelligence.
f391b9 No.14704817
>>14696933
>DURRR SEE HOW MUCH OF A SHITTY PERSON YOU ARE AND HOW WAR IS BAD? SHOULD HAVE JUST STOPPED PLAYING THE GAME
How does it feel to be retarded?
a186dc No.14705954
>>14698197
>Except the developer's intended to do that too, by telling player's to turn off the game for a "secret fifth ending".
Except that never happened. A fan told the dev that was his theory and the Dev called it an interesting perspective. At no point was it a secret 5th ending.
I'm seeing a lot of people who think the story is a lot more pretentious than it actually is. It's merely a story of Walker in hell reliving his last moments.
He dies in the beginning helicopter sequence. The rest of the game is him reliving his last day alive until he can let go of the things he did. When Walker says "I have no choice", it's not a deep metaphorical statement on player choice, it's a statement of how he already killed those innocent people and that he has to learn to move past that.
This is a lot like how people keep mistaking Eva as pretentious because of fan theory when it's actually a story of emotional abuse.
9044f3 No.14707505
It's really cool if you finish it in one sitting. But you shouldn't because muh changing menu.
09de1a No.14707793
So when and how exactly did Walker subconsciously realize Konrad killed himself before he actually saw the corpse? The hallucination was mocking him for pushing all his shit on a dead man, but he didn't know Konrad killed himself until he turned that chair around right? But the way it was talking, Fake-Konrad sounded like he knew (and by extension Walker knew since it was in his head) that he suicided.
a186dc No.14708317
>>14707793
He knew because they're both dead and in hell.
48a507 No.14708491
>>14707793
I think all three of the Delta Force guys knew going in that Konrad was probably dead, Walker was just in denial about it.
f0b5ad No.14708592
a186dc No.14708642
>>14708592
Except as I just told you, the devs never actually said that. It was a fan theory that the dev called interesting.
e41a05 No.14708685
<I-It's not about you!
http://archive.is/hOqkD
>They wanted to put players into scenarios where bad things could happen to good people, and in the game they imagined, the list of "good people" wouldn't necessarily include you.
>"People are not going to get mad at you … if what you do is consistent with the game world. If what happens … if the shocking moment is adequately prepared … for you to understand that this type of game that you bought into, it's going to get progressively worse and we're going to talk about whether or not your actions are appropriate or not. Your characters are going to talk about it - the game talks to you.
>"Just because you think you're the hero, just because you want this particular thing to play out this way, just because you made this decision doesn't mean that it's going to," Williams said. "There are other characters in this world. They are going to react to the choices that you make, but they are going to react not as if you are the center of their universe. They're going to react in their best interest, not yours."
>On Spec Op's loading screens, the game taunts you, asking "Do you feel like a hero yet?" and suggesting that shooting people for entertainment is less morally defensible than waging actual war. Williams wanted the player to feel as if everything they knew about shooters might somehow be wrong, and in the process, feel more emotionally connected to the mental state of the game's main character.
>"I think that's a huge breaking point for Walker," Pearsey said. "A lot of [players] at that point - they can't watch what they're seeing … which puts [the player] and [Walker] in an identical psychological state … because that's what you're doing and that's what the player is dealing with to a degree. The city is burning and you're the ones who burned it."
>And if the player is thinking about seriously putting down the controller at this point, then that's exactly where we want them to be emotionally.
>"If you pay your 60 bucks because you want to shoot something," Williams said, "and at the end of that game you feel bad for shooting something because I've taken you through a narrative journey to that point where you're kind of regretting having gone through it, not because of you but because of the actions that you've taken part in, I think that's something to make people rejoice about the emotional impact of games.
Or are you going to argue you know the game better than the actual devs?
c00234 No.14708744
>>14697237
The game's pretty clear about the soldier or water thief thing. It shows that it was just a bunch of hanging corpses and that Walker was hallucinating the whole thing. Other than that, the moral choices in the game don't mean anything because the whole place had already gone to hell and you're just going on a tour through its vestiges. Can't polish a turd, you know?
14b721 No.14708913
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