/v/ - Video Games

RTS is the only definite one I can think of.

Give me a menu to strategize with at whatever pace I want or just let me hit stuff and have to do the actual work myself for a challenge.

>>14675872

gookclickers were a fucking mistake

>>14676081

2hu

ooga

Rhythm games.

How fuck people think this shit is fun?

It's bad enough that the music selection is usually garbage.

RTS. I love turn based strategies, turn based rpgs, but I hate the RTS genre with only two exceptions to the rule, Dawn of War 1 and 2.

>>14675930

>>14675872

RTS a shit. That's just the truth of the world.

fighting games

first person shooters

I just can't seem to git gud at them

>>14676081

CRS68k

>>14676081

Raiden Fighters 2

I don't click with point-n-clicks. They suck dicks.

Turn based strategy like Fire Emblem. I like games with a world to care about. Or at least one worth looking at. Fire Emblem just looks boring. The maps are the same shit. Give me a game like fire emblem with places I can explore and a world I can care about. Like Mount and Blade I guess.

>>14676518

sadly the music sounds like shit on my win10

rhythm games make no sense to me. I have trouble even calling them games.

>>14677299

I'm pretty sure that's fixed by running it in Windows XP compatibility mode

>>14675872

play RTT games instead if your brain is too small

Puzzle shit and almost all western games.

>>14677491

try cotton boomerang and use the grab mechanic as much as possible and you'll learn to love shooting games.

I have yet to find a Hack and slash that doesn't make me lose interest playing more than 30 mins of it. Its all so repetitive. Im still looking if an anon wants to recommend me one.

>>14677491

You may like side scrolling shmups like Metal Slug.

>>14677534

try playing gauntlet dark legacy. it's like if diablo had good level design instead of hurr no design just randomize

>>14677525

This looks really cool, thanks anon, will definitely check it out.

>>14677534

Yeah, I like Metal Slug, it's fun.

>>14677540

Speaking of Hack'n Slash, it seems like a genre I could really get into but I don't know what to start with. I've tried Titan Quest and although being probably the most sound game gameplay-wise, it was also the most fucking boring presentation-wise. It really felt jarring for me that a game about killing hordes of enemies has such down-to-earth boring presentation.

>>14677558

there's two different types of hack and slash games. Meth addict ones like diablo, titan souls, grim dawn, torchlight, etc. and games with actual game play. Gauntlet, Dark Legacy, Legends, these are games with carefully designed levels, unique character classes and bosses that aren't just spam click and hot key potion.

Do not play the meth addict games. They are the earliest example of skinner boxes and they are not good games. They are addicting games. They are meth addict games.

>>14677541

I hope you enjoy it, Cotton is the cutest character in video games, she's part of a series and her earlier games like cotton 2, panorama, and fantastic night dreams have fun stories with plenty of humor and solid design and god tier music.

>>14675854

2D platformers, because I never grew up with them. I like the Castlevania games however.

I like shmups but I hate the autistic bullet hell shooters that permeate the market now

>>14675854

Shmups are an anti-brainlet, skill-demanding genre. It's why nobody on this shithole ever discusses them.

As for bad genres, *RPG, VN, rhythm, Metroidvania, simulation, mascot platformer, and DotA-like.

>>14676081

Ikaruga.

>>14679014

>Game based on reflexes and eye-hand coordination

>Or worse, memorization

>Anti-brainlet games

Found the nigger

cRPGs, I just can't enjoy the actual gameplay at all. I can handwave some wonky mechanics here and there with an RPG, as the story, choices and builds for the PC make up for it. Not in the old school isometric cRPGs though, combat is thoroughly uninteresting turn-based shite and the movement is sluggish. A real shame as I'm sure the RPG side of things are good.

>>14676386

I don't believe that. It's just not my preference.

>>14679029

If memorisation and reflexes are so subhuman, where's your DOJWL WR?

Right, you're full of shit. Fuck off retard.

>>14681131

…and I fucked up the spoiler. Good.

>I was actually struggling to think of a genre I don't like (the other options were RPGs and visual novels; can't say the former because my two favorite games ARE RPGs, and the other has some gems), but basically this. I think the reason I don't like it as much is because most of the rhythm games I've come across are in arcades; specifically, stuff like Beatmania and especially DDR, which not only requires exercise to play but provide instant feedback if and when I fuck up, which screws with my rhythm and causes a downward slope of me continually fucking up until the game says 'screw it'. It's also compounded by the fact whenever I go to the arcade I'm usually going with a literally autistic friend who's not only obsessed with these kinds of games but actually really fucking good at them, where I don't want to leave without him but know if I do play with him instead of just sitting around I'll get my ass kicked almost immediately. I don't mind the exercise factor of these games, but the problem is if I want to exercise I have more than a couple of options to do so that don't involve generic J-Pop music from a Konami game. The only exception to this so far has been Rhythm Heaven Fever, and only because I liked Ko Takeuchi's art from his twitter and wanted to check this game out. The feedback was also instant, but subtly so instead of stuff like "MISS", and was never bad enough to completely screw my rhythm over, combined with the fact it tries to change up the context instead of being a bunch of arrows against a background. That being said, I've NEVER hated monkeys in my whole life than when playing this game. Holy fucking shit that clock minigame. Also fuck that rap minigame in particular.

>>14679014

There's not a lot to talk about considering that they're single player, solitary experiences.

Collectible Card Games

I used to absolutely love Magic the Gathering when I was a child. However as the years went on, the fun drained out of this genera entirely. The power creep slowly got worse and worse. Only very specific theme decks could even be considered playable against faggots that took 13 reaction steps for every time you so much as looked at the cards. Now as I look at all kinds of CCGs the same holds true. Hundreds of the cards are just 'traps' and there is no reason to ever play them, with each new set being an arms race so you can use broken ass cards so they aren't used against you.

It's distilling MOBA into its most concentrated form of meta game cancer and I will no longer abide by it.

>>14675872

Same. I'm not sure why because I love turn based strategy games. It might be because they don't have as much of an emphasis on base building and resource management as RTS.

>>14681203

For what it's worth, Legacy still has a rich metagame. Unfortunately, it has something like a $400 entry price for the most basic of decks, because it's either dual lands or format staples, or both, just to get started. Some decks can run upwards of $1200+, too.

That said, it's still mechanically deep and fun to play with emulators and such. Limited/draft isn't too bad because the power exists in a vacuum as well.

>>14681256

>Un-sets

>Mattering

Might as well sleeve up a Charmander

>>14681278

I didn't say anything about unsets in my post faggot

>>14681287

>Posting an unrelated image just to be lol so ebinpc XD and wasting the site's bandwidth

>>14681300

>one post saying "actually I didn't say that"

>"calling out"

>>>/tumblr/

I want to get into shmups but I just don't understand the appeal, any suggestions on where to start and what makes those so good?

>>14681256

And you solve that shit by limit the deck and make each other draw random cards out of the whole deck.

>>14676113

It's similar to shmups in that the whole point is to get the highest score possible + good accuracy. It's for autists with a good sense of rhythm tbh

>>14681256

>Yugioh is also supposed to be played casually

That's sad.

Also "Sports games" in general. If I wanted to play basketball I'd go to the gym.

Fighting games (oh boy here we go)

I just cannot get into the idea that I have to memorize a character just to play a fucking game properly. Then of course after doing so the only real gameplay left is to get totally stomped by people who have been playing every fighter since they were still sucking their mother's tits. It's just not a good gameplay loop, it's essentially based entirely around who can mash out memorized combos faster to beat their friends at a game you all barely know how to play, up until it becomes about learning and memorizing every frame timing to rewire your brain as some kind of super-AI that doesn't even need to look at the screen to land and block moves so you can compete with other people who also have no idea how to have fun like yourself.

Sure, if you've put in the requisite dozens of hours you can compensate for your tiny penis by beating your friends at a game that you invested way too much time in, but why not just play a genre that has skills which also translate to other games like FPS or strategy? It's not like you need to be fitan-champ good to play things which use a remotely similar control setup to SF or Tekken.

I dunno man I just don't get why people prefer these over other competitive games.

>>14681833

Raiden II is the only one worth playing, and sufficiently randomized that it still can give good challenge.

City Building/Managing

The last one I played was SimCity 4, but I remember playing that and the ones before. I loved planning out the city, but I was absolutely terrible at running it. I could never make a profit.

>>14681843

Who the fuck plays basketball at a gym?

>>14676625

Fire Emblem Echoes.

>>14681922

>but why not just play a genre that has skills which also translate to other games like FPS or strategy

<implying playing in first-person shooters against other players doesn't require you to memorize the map and item spawn locations and general routes

<implying playing multiplayer strategy doesn't require you to memorize possible opening moves and general strategies

this is the same case in any genre, but fighting games don't really have lobbies for casual players who don't even understand the basics of the system

try memorizing a list of combos for a character and see what good merely knowing does to you

>>14681988

And then there's these retards who get triggered the second you point out the flaws in their genre and so

>b-b-b-but other multiplayer games DO IT TOOOO

but if you start trying to explain things that fighting games can do to alleviate some of the bullshit in the genre by drawing comparisons to non-fighting games they immediately go

>U FUKN FAGET THOSE AREN'T FIGHTIN GAMES REEEEEEEEEEEEE

Fuck off. You know damned well that map memorization isn't necessary for low-mid level play and isn't nearly as technical as what's involved in fighting games anyway. Same for strategy. Even memorizing units in fucking Dominions is less tedious than figuring out every combo for every character and remembering hurtboxes and hitboxes.

>>14682007

>Fuck off. You know damned well that map memorization isn't necessary for low-mid level play

that would translate to players barely having a clue about the map layout and wasting too much time getting lost or blindly following any present objective markers, and having no real sense of planning

for fighters that would translate to not even understanding the differences between characters and just mashing away

this is purely a matter of experience, some of these things you can only learn the hard way, you're basically complaining that other players are better than you because they spent more time learning the game, that's a bloody inevitability

some games are just easier to pick up than others but also harder to master

>but if you start trying to explain things that fighting games can do to alleviate some of the bullshit

you never actually did this, though I'd be curious to hear what you actually have to say here

>>14682075

He's going to suggest they play like smash bros or rising thunder.

Competitive online FPS games. Fucking trash for stoners.

Anything with inventory management, which is usually survival horror games like Resident Evil or roguelikes. I cannot stand only being able to carry certain amounts of ingredients or having a weight limit.

>>14678274

>airdashers fighters (or animu fighters)

Funny, since I can't stand footsies-based fighters where you only have one jump and no universal cancel system or screen pollution. What about them do you dislike?

>>14677534

>Hack and slash

I had forgotten what an awful genre name that was and I'm baffled you'd still use it. If you're talking about stuff like Dynasty Warriors, then the term for that is musou and it isn't really a good genre; the whole point of it is to appeal to the Japanese idea of a power trip where you effectively have godmode on at all times and can destroy half a dozen enemies with a flick of your wrist.

If you mean action games with swords, then I need to know what you like and dislike about the ones you've played. If you mean dungeon crawlers, then >>14677573 is accurate.

>>14681922

>>14682007

If you hate memorizing combos so much, just download Fightcade and play Samurai Shodown, or emulate Soul Calibur 2 on Dolphin, or play a game like UNIST where everybody has fullscreen normals and the combo system is literally designed to let you cancel anything into anything.

I mean, shit, dude. You're entitled to your views, but have you played a fighting game that wasn't Street Fighter IV?

>map memorization isn't necessary for mid-low level play in shooters

>but combo memorization is necessary for mid-low level in fighting games

>>14683265

Sports games Cowadoody clones, and the like are fucking dogshit and you know it.

>>14683432

Black people at least have to stay /fit/, learn coordination and teamwork like any other athlete.

Their only crime is when they sell out for shitty commercials or endorsements.

>>14681256

>both the creator of Yugioh and Magic have said that the games are meant to be played casually, but it's gotten harder to find casual players as the internet has grown more popular; the original villain of Yugioh was just a hyperbolic version of the rich "competitive" faggot who can buy all the best cards and only cares about winning

Reminds me of high school when one of our friendgroup said we should use the forbidden list, then decided to buy a meta deck off of Ebay. Everything just went to shit after that.

>>14676113

>Rhythm games

Oh man, talk about a genre that really has to 'click' with you. It's possible though, if you play one game long enough.

Happened with me when playing DJMAX 3 on the PSP, I used to miss a fuckton, but all it takes is one 'properly' paced song and you're hitting perfects all over.

Makes me want to try Osu! again, but I heard the fag dev made his game into some spyware shit that takes snapshots of your desktop or some shit.

>>14683266

>Funny, since I can't stand footsies-based fighters where you only have one jump and no universal cancel system or screen pollution. What about them do you dislike?

I can see you enjoy clusterfuck fighters, I hate that shit.

Multiple jump-in options aren't necessarily bad, KOF does it right, but if the game has an easy jump-in option that is thrown around in footsies like a "I'm tired of playing footsies, fuck you have a jump-in that you can't react to", it's shit.

Screen pollution is garbage and you know it, if you want a random game, just play smash.

Universal cancel systems aren't bad either, only if they're mindless and have no downsides like shoryuken FADC in SF4, where a high risk/low reward defensive option turns into a safe, high reward/low risk that can turn a match around for two bars.

>>14681256

It was fun to be with my brothers and make shitty decks out of thousands of shitty cards we had stored in shoe boxes, and then play all the afternoon with them. God I miss those times, fuck Wizards of The Coast.

>>14681843

NBA Jam is more of an Arcade Game than a Sports Game, and you can enjoy it without knowing anything about the sport. Your criticism is quite valid for games like FIFA, tough.

>>14683284

RTS games can easily become as much of a twitch game as they are about tactics or strategy. Most of them have horrible controls too.

>>14681131

That Courage is fucking perfect.

>>14683365

It's fun with mods.

>>14681922

Literally git gud. A strong basics game is literally all you need to stomp half of any fighting game's online population. Combos and juggling is just icing on the cake you use to style on your opponents since there is no meaningful difference between executing a footsie chained into a tod combo or doing a handful of easy resets besides weeks of autistic grinding for max damage per hit confirm but thats where the tourneytardism starts as opposed to casual fun with your friends.

>>14676081

I'd just download a mame romset and the mame version to go with it, there's a shitload of games you could play.

grinding is the worst. Doesn't matter if it's some jrpg that want's you to grind to progress or the average mmo. It's nothing but a unpaid virtual assembly line job.

Before anyone asks: The difference to repetition in competitive gameplay is that you are actively progressing as a player trying to improve over the rounds. Grinding mobs you are maxed out and there is no change besides the moving progression counter. It is purely a job because you only do it for the reward.

>VN's aka Visual Novels

Nigga just read a book or manga or watch an anime

>>14701055

grinding is a self-imposed easy mode in JRPGs. In MMOs it's the core game play. You grind if you're bad in JRPGs.

I'm god-awful at most strategy games. It sucks because I love the aesthetics of RTS games, the overhead view is a great way to present assets, but I never have the patience to learn the units. On top of that, lots of RTS games have great music that I can only enjoy from a voyeuristic perspective.

>>14701055

Agreed, grinding is like an action movie with really long and boring dialogue.

>>14701118

Some shitty (J)RPGs require grinding.

>>14683133

Can you elaborate on that stoner point?

>>14701153

DUDE

>>14701174

'Dude', what?

>>14701373

Bad Rogue clones are not fun.

>>14701174

WEED

>>14702080

What 'weed'?

>>14701118

What about optimum runs in JRPGs? For example, no xp runs in FF8 to keep monsters weak, while also abusing the cards

I hate RTS-games in the sense of i love building up the base and the units and carefully craft tactics to take down my opponent. What i don't like is that everything have to happen so fast, you don't make good decisions under stress, i don't like how it's a competition of being the fastest one to reach the other base that basically wins the game (that's how i experienced it basically).

They should really try and slow down RTS-games a bit. Let me place out my men on the map, plan the attacks carefully and hoping my opponent won't outsmart me. Not some competition in who is the fastest to click shit and use key-bindings. Use actual strategy instead, since it's a strategy game.

>>14702310

Just below low-a-press tier runs for mario 64, ways to create elaboratr challenges. Some are even built for it like turning off encounters in bravely default.

>>14701373

i would agree for all those except darkest dungeon. DD when I fale I usually feel its because I mead a poor choice here or there, all the others it's like "you didn't get the exact items you need, you are going to fail".

>>14702703

also FAIL at typing too…

>>14675854

>Genres that dont click with you

JRPGs. Every aspect of them just seems offensively bad to me. I don't think there is a single one out there I could ever possibly like.