bc658b No.14667268
This is the best Fallout game.
Try and prove me wrong I dare you.
What mods you rollin'?
ed93c1 No.14667272
>>14667268
But none of the Fallout games were any good.
bc658b No.14667288
>>14667272
What about his games?
c6a438 No.14667291
>>14667272
>Do I fit in yet vee? xD
>>14667268
It depends on what you want out of Fallout. It's certainly not bad but it's hardly an RPG.
c6a438 No.14667297
>>14667288
Did you mean his game?
b20a2a No.14667310
>>14667268
While it is the best, it's not as good as what it was trying to be (JA2). Also RIP
50a5b0 No.14667330
Fallout New California soon fellow Couriers
0581e0 No.14667338
>>14667272
Untrue, 3 was actually really fun if you modded it and ignored the dumb ass writing. The rest are overrated trash though I agree.
0581e0 No.14667347
>>14667338
>>14667272
Basically what I mean is you have to embrace it as a rollercoaster ride of nonsensical setpieces and not try to overthink it.
b20a2a No.14667352
>>14667338
>shitty combat and shitty engine
No. If anything, just mod NV.
50a5b0 No.14667358
>>14667338
The only thing that made NV redeemable was its writing and RPG elements, and Fallout 3 has neither
379537 No.14667361
Two words.
Van. Buren.
But New Vegas will suffice
3b54ef No.14667366
>>14667268
>best Fallout game
Wrong, it was actually this.
0581e0 No.14667368
>>14667352
New Vegas has the same engine flaws with a much less interesting map.
>>14667358
The writing is only slightly better and comes at the cost of actual enjoyment and clear signs of cut corners due to rushing and low budget. I'd rather have dumb but fun i.e. any Bethesda game than pretentious, unfun and unfinished i.e. any Obsidian game.
c6a438 No.14667373
>>14667366
Wasteland is a pointless piece of shit meme game before there was such a thing as meme games. It was one of those "Do exactly as the weird basement dweller who made this game intended or lose" games.
50a5b0 No.14667374
>>14667368
Gee I wonder who was behind this post. Obsidian should have negotiated better to get an extension
3cc733 No.14667376
>playing Fallout 2 again
>come across the Cafe of Broken Dreams
>there's dialogue making fun of blacks blaming whites for everything
c6a438 No.14667377
>>14667368
You're delusional if you think Bethesda games are any more polished or finished than Obisidian games.
b20a2a No.14667381
>>14667368
>New Vegas has the same engine flaws with a much less interesting map.
Mods fix this, not saying that you should play NV at all though.
0581e0 No.14667386
>>14667374
>Obsidian should have negotiated better to get an extension
Obsidian have never been able to understand how to run as a business. I like what they try to do but their actual output never lives up to it and people are too lenient on them for lost potential. Also they have significant SJW overtones that have become more obvious over time.
>>14667377
Bethesda games don't have entire factions missing basically all of their content like the Legion. They're just as buggy on release I agree but after a few patches they are the more complete experience.
>>14667381
>Mods fix this
A Tale of Two Wastelands certainly fixes the boring map problem.
bc658b No.14667390
>>14667368
>New Vegas has the same engine flaws with a much less interesting map.
I used to think that and thought FO3's map was better at the time, but after doing a 100% playthrough of New Vegas, i've come to appreciate the pacing and placements of faction of the map alot more than FO3 did.
I'd argue that 60% of the important faction and plot quests took place in literally one area.
3b54ef No.14667393
>>14667373
>"Do exactly as the weird basement dweller who made this game intended or lose"
I think you're mistaken, Todd. I posted Wasteland, not Fallout 4.
95259f No.14667430
>>14667268
what is the best way to replay fallout tactics, any good mods out there, i really liked that it let you play with an ara deathclaw
c6a438 No.14667431
>>14667393
>Having fail states
>In a Bethesda game
What are you smoking?
1aa829 No.14667435
>>14667430
>ara deathclaw
what
my dick demands to know more.
ed93c1 No.14667446
>>14667338
>>14667347
>If you want to enjoy playing this RPG then don't play it at all like an RPG
So as I said not good.
95259f No.14667461
>>14667435
>my dick demands to know more.
>he doesnt know
stop shitposting and play fallout tactics, NOW
NOW!
6e0c0e No.14667523
>>14667376
Funny considering Chris Avellone is a cucked up piece of shit these days.
3cc733 No.14668027
>>14667523
There's also jokes about women fucking producers to get their roles, I can't imagine any of this shit in a modern game.
0e4d5d No.14669134
Tactics > 2 > 1 > BOS > NV > 3 > 4
a04dec No.14669382
I swear its the same anon every fallout thread that defends Fallout 3.
ae4b75 No.14669509
>>14667272
This, Fallout is trash from start to finish. The very first game was a mess of shoddy controls, shallow character progression, extremely low content, and bugs up the ass.
3f7098 No.14669513
Best Fallout game is Fallout 4.
102fc4 No.14669624
>>14667428
That's not even the only Fallout game that ZeniMax killed. In late 2006 an adaptation of Fallout to the D20 Modern pen and paper system was announced, then in 2007 ZeniMax sued the developers and license holders to have it shut down. Plus just don't forget that one of the companies bidding for the Fallout license before ZeniMax stepped in was Troika.
94e89b No.14669662
Fo1>NV>Fo2>tactics>Fo3>Fo4>BoS
If Van Buren turned out to be everything the 700 page design docs described, it would probably be first
9dda60 No.14669815
>>14669509
>The very first game was a mess of shoddy controls, shallow character progression, extremely low content, and bugs up the ass.
What game were you playing at the time that blew it out of the water? Really, I want to know, I'm always up for a good older RPG.
9be2b6 No.14670056
>>14669815
Diablo was Fallout’s competition even before release. Interplay’s executives were pushing for multiplayer because of Diablo, but Tim Cain managed to have Fallout remain a singleplayer game.
473f55 No.14670273
there's a new mod coming out that would overhaul fallout new Vegas HUD a good HUD and replace it with fallout 4s HUD (or at least a remake of it). it's pretty bad.
I remember watching a actually finished mod showcase of it, but I guess I cant find it so I had to settle for this. (((https://youtu.be/sCmJEGhRAKw)))
0a5b4b No.14671450
Any suggestions for mods to use for a minimalist New Vegas runs besides just JSawyer? I want to try doing a grenades / throwing weapons only run, and don't want to have any mods that make it too much different than vanilla.
50f4cc No.14671554
>>14667272
1, 2 & New Vegas are great games. Repent.
9f4eaf No.14671565
>>14667268
>Try to prove me wrong I dare you
Why wouldn't you just play XCOM or Jagged Alliance instead?
Not a bad game though, I'll give you that. But Fallout's mechanics never had tactical combat in mind so it is lacking in some areas. I'd rather just play Fallout 1.
9f4eaf No.14671574
>>14670056
Market competition doesn't mean that they're similar games. Diablo and Fallout have extremely different design priorities and inspirations. One of these is based on roguelike mechanics brought to mass market, the other is essentially a GURPS CRPG.
9f4eaf No.14671590
>>14669134
1 is better than 2 because it is a more complete and cohesive game and doesn't suffer from constant pop culture references, not to mention a much more obnoxiously long winded intro.
f2bac7 No.14671604
>>14667366
Just started playing Wasteland, can confirm. Also strong in the running for best soundtrack.
>>14667373
…what?
>>14667376
>>14668027
KEK
>>14669382
There are at least two of us, as I just showed up.
da37e5 No.14671624
>>14667268
Tactics was honestly amazing, it's better than any of the FPS Fallout games. I beat both FO1 and 2 before getting to tactics, and neither of them gave me that much of a challenge. Also the game did a great job of illustrating the brotherhood of steel, the politics of the world feels more real than the DUDE TECHNOLOGY LMAO representations we get in other games.
IMO the proper rankings are:
>FO1
>Tactics
>FO2
>New Vegas
>FO3
>FO4
Don't get me wrong, FO2 had a lot more content, but the world was disconnected and felt much less real than any of the other non-bethesda fallouts.
a38771 No.14671628
>>14671604
>…what?
People complain about broken mechanics and pop culture shit in FO yet Wasteland is a thousand times worse with those things.
f2bac7 No.14671636
>>14671628
Maybe I'm just new but the mechanics are pretty fucking solid so far and I haven't seen one pop culture reference. Not even an Ink Spots song.
a38771 No.14671643
>>14671636
Are you talking about Wasteland 2?
60f4b9 No.14671649
>>14669762
I'LL CUT TO THE CHASE
f2bac7 No.14671650
>>14671643
Nope, #1, the original.
a38771 No.14671675
>>14671650
Didn't expect anyone to still play that.
f2bac7 No.14671679
>>14671675
Just started, actually. Fucking loving it so far.
3a2c59 No.14671898
>>14667268
Fun theme, but the delay between input and action plus the insane crit rate that be encountefed level one says otherwise. In Fallout 1, it is unlikely the first rat (roach?) is going to crit you and one-shot you outside the vault entrance. Having a controlable squad is a very fun idea, plus live action combat can be fun. Learn your macros.
3d9ac6 No.14674634
>>14667268
I can't enjoy anything other than cavalier oblique loot shooters with good rpg elements like New Vegas.
I got really excited for an hour while playing Fallout 1 for the first time but then it wore off and never came back.
I will probably never be able to appreciate any top down isometric game. I did enjoy reading a canticle for leibowtiz though after I saw the original Fallout was influenced by it. I got much more enjoyment out of that than I did Fallout 1, I could see how the mutants/tribals/BoS were more in line with the representation from the novel compared to the later games.
9ed624 No.14674918
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>>14669624
>Plus just don't forget that one of the companies bidding for the Fallout license before ZeniMax stepped in was Troika.
And to add salt to the wound they actually had a prototype as well. We now know this would have been Fallout 3.
>>14671565
>Why wouldn't you just play XCOM or Jagged Alliance instead?
This, JA2 1.13 is superior to any other Turn Based RPG especially when using the forum patches, scared the shit out of me when I got ambushed by a tank early in the game.
I'm also surprised to see how many people are praising tactics, I really enjoy tactics as well, I have no idea why people hate on it, it is an excellent RTT its just a mediocre TBRPG is all. But it made sense that you'd have a fallout where it was about squad controls ect, I'm glad they at least attempted it but obviously if you wanted to do it properly you'd have a game where you could solo RPG as well as squad RTT. Jagged Alliance 2 proves they were heading down the right track.
I'm just happy that the developers of Tactics are still around and survived all the Bethesda bullshit. Shame we can't say that about Interplay and Troika.
102fc4 No.14675015
>>14674918
>And to add salt to the wound they actually had a prototype as well. We now know this would have been Fallout 3.
It's questionable, though, whether they would have actually had the funds to make it after the fiasco that Activision's (((partnership))) had ended up being.
9ed624 No.14675026
>>14675015
given how Bloodlines turned out, yeah you're probably right. Had Activision not fucked them over they probably would've made a very amazing Fallout game in the same style of Bloodlines which would have easily shit on everything Bethesda has ever done.
5bcdf2 No.14675453
I remember an anon a few years back posted that he played The Road in Fallout 3. Basically, he avoided all human contact when possible except when he was ambushing innocents to steal their supplies. I keep meaning to give that a try.
68c72b No.14675486
>>14669662
>700 page design docs
link?
d602be No.14676589
>>14669815
Exile III: Ruined World
fc4595 No.14682004
anyone got a link to fallout tactics?
9b81be No.14682012
>>14676589
It looks like it's aged very poorly. But then, Avernum has as well at this point.
What does E3 do that got lost from Avernum? I know it has better spell selection and 6 party members.
d602be No.14682337
>>14682012
Not really, it still plays great. It's the isometric games like Avernum and Fallout that have honestly "aged poorly". Exile III has better controls, minimap navigation, and inventory management than Avernum 3.
e2ca87 No.14682368
>>14667272
Thank you, no one else on /v/ wants to admit their precious franchise titles are actually really horrible games.
989778 No.14682628
>>14667268
But anon, this is the best Fallout game.
2c11a4 No.14682633
>>14667330
>soon
It was "soon" when I was still in high school and that was 7 years ago.
083708 No.14682664
>>14667272
>all this butthurt
doing God's work, son
b59158 No.14683197
>>14667272
>7272
Dubs of truth
Cuckout is for plebs
fad952 No.14683209
>>14683197
>>14667272
well then i guess this one will suck
b59158 No.14683267
>>14683209
Looks like some bad indie shit knockoff, so it's definitely going to be shit regardless.
fad952 No.14683913
>>14683267
So just like Van Buren?
7cb35f No.14684236
>>14683267
but under rail was really good.
c2c6c7 No.14684238
i made a thread but some asshole got triggered by me making a separate thread for my own shit, so i'll post here as well
what mods are there for this gem that make it more western-like? i just watched the new ep of westworld and want some good old-fashioned cowboy action, preferably non-quest if possible, already played new vegas bounties and everything else by that guy.
if nothing else i'll probably just install dust and shoot every living thing that comes my way. also, is there any sort of realistic damage mod out there? something that makes like headshots lethal and such?
7c3b3d No.14684310
>>14684238
>i'll probably just install dust
>is there any sort of realistic damage mod out there? something that makes like headshots lethal and such?
Dust does that.
94e89b No.14684322
>>14684238
>dust
>shoot every living thing that comes my way
Anon, I…
c7f016 No.14684682
>>14667430
HERESY
>>14682368
There are no good game. There never were. We're all just living a lie.
69a8ef No.14684962
>>14682664
>this image
holly shit I didn't know that one, fuck I'm cracking up here
611950 No.14685722
Any of you gents willing to throw a copy of New Vegas up on the vola or somewhere?
fad952 No.14685847
>>14684310
>>14684238
>Dust makes headshots realistic
4U but not for anyone else in the game.
Also DUST basically takes any and all RPG aspects out of the game taking a huge dump on the prerfomance and changing it's very nature,it's like what STALKER complete is for STALKER only it's made for FNV aka
shit
88bfc5 No.14686642
>>14669762
>his politics are good
>but he's a massive fucking scrub in video games
I feel conflicted
9e3a3b No.14695256
What the fuck is up with the aiming in F:NW? I hit jack shit with the hunting rifle and now bought a combat rifle from the gun runners thinking it would work better and it's still fucking inaccurate.
7e6044 No.14695290
>>14685722
It's probably already somewhere in those share threads.
23237d No.14695420
>>14667330
I think California is an overused setting and will seem pretty dry coming back to it for the third time.
If I like anything about nu-fallout compared to old its that they emphasize a smaller but more iconic area like (DC, Vegas, Boston a bit less). I think it really helps fallouts theme of war changing the surroundings because its easier to see change in a place youve heard and read about than a place where all you know about is literally San Francisco, cucks, surfers, redwoods, and tech companies. It also keeps the setting and enemy variety fresh.
They still have a lot of interesting and iconic locations left. Hawaii, New Orleans, Miami, Chicago, Houston, and New York (if they can retcon jet they can retcon this too).
6adab5 No.14696024
FT power armor is my single favorite PA design in history of fiction.
It's just right amounts of edge, technology, wear and in-universe contrast that makes it fucking perfect.
>looks like devil
>wore by "paladins" of the paramilitary technocult branch that isn't too autistic about purity of members
>still visibly technological and old, every unit is scratched and washed out
>but still got cool aesthetic accessories going with cape and decorative chain
>fully enclosed
>looks intimating for both of those who doesn't know what this is and those who does
>because of pre-rendered graphics could pull bitching cloth physics in 2001
e7eaa6 No.14696151
>>14667268
Anyone used to play the online on GSA? Used to love playing the beastlord coop mode with some mates.
17ffce No.14696805
>>14695420
I like the idea of Hawaii. There is a subreddit dedicated to it with some good ideas.
I imagine the enclave pushing forward the oil rig and have a base in here. A base inside the diamond head crater aiming to launch a space rocket to find an other world. It was one of the goal of the enclave irrc.
4200f4 No.14696848
>>14683209
Is it fun? I'm a little bit skeptical about it. It's an indie game, created by Russians no less.
fad952 No.14696850
>>14696805
>there is a subreddit dedicated to it
well why didn't you say so from the beggining
17ffce No.14696874
>>14696805
>>14695420
San Francisco's Golden Gate Bridge FO2
Seattle's Space Needle PROJECTV13
Las Vegas' FNV
South Dakota's Mount Rushmore
Boston's Custom House Tower FO4
St. Louis' Gateway Arch TACTICS
Washington D.C.'s FO3
New York City's Statue of Liberty
So only south Dakota and NYC are not part of any game (a drawing of new york in tactics maybe)
we have also this
>In Fallout 4, MacCready mentions a warehouse in South Dakota while searching warehouses in Goodneighbor, saying "Some strange things turn up in these places, ever hear about that warehouse in South Dakota? Yeesh."
Mc ready already links FO3 to Fo4 so maybe Fo5 in south dakota….
17ffce No.14696876
>>14696850
i was testing you
94e89b No.14696883
>>14696876
Whatever you say
fad952 No.14696884
>>14696876
>double down
<i was merely pretending
17ffce No.14697066
>>14696874
>dakota
But there is literally nothing here so why not Denver.
I really want to see a Boneyard like city. People living at a height to avoid the roaming hordes of feral dogs.
But i don't think an engine like le creation engine can handle that.
94e89b No.14697222
>>14697066
It's certainly possible considering The Pitt exists, but Bethesda would still pull the engine limitations card just like they did with the spears
4e1b71 No.14699869
>>14696876
Merely pretending
1978b0 No.14699940
>>14667268
Is there a map editor for Fallout 1 and 2? I think anons here can make way better fallout games if we were given the tools.
846aed No.14700155
>>14696024
I actually like the power armor in FO4. The redesign is about the only thing that game did right, and with the ability to switch out various body parts around Bethesda could have developed the whole thing into a "mechlab" mechanic with some real depth to it (like that New Vegas mod) but like with everything else that company does, they had to take the cheap way out.
846aed No.14700308
>>14684196
If there's so much information about Van Buren floating around why hasn't anyone bothered to try and make a mod of it? I mean, with the likes of Fallout 1.5 and Fallout of Nevada (as well as Frontier and Project Brazil) there's obviously enough autism to go around, and with the design documentation they already have large parts of the framework in place to implement.
c7f016 No.14700458
>>14696024
STAND ASIDE, LITTLE MAN!
917f0f No.14700460
>>14699940
With all the fan made Fallout games and mods, what do you think? Check this out: http://resurrection.cz/en/
b69b73 No.14701037
>>14696876
>it was a secret hehe
>>14667428
Quit breaking my heart.
>>14682004
magnet:?xt=urn:btih:cb95b405c1cb40d5bcb5a828cc3f52f149804a22&dn=Fallout+Tactics+%28GOG%29&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.leechers-paradise.org%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fzer0day.ch%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fopen.demonii.com%3A1337&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Ftracker.coppersurfer.tk%3A6969&tr=udp%3A%2F%2Fexodus.desync.com%3A6969
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018459 No.14701814
>>14667330
we're getting TES VI: Hammerfell before FOV
4c13fa No.14701830
>>14700458
Daily reminder that the primarines armor is actually pretty cool looking.
ed93c1 No.14703391
fad952 No.14703946
>>14703391
>simplistic design geared towards practicality than flash
>single color pattern
>as little customisation as possible
>just another body in the service of the Emperor
Kind of is,it would be the kind of thing that one would reasonably expect a military grade heavy combat armor to look like
Sort of of like the salvaged power armor from NV the NCR troops wear but without losing any functionality
c7f016 No.14704233
>>14701830
Skull helms belong only on chaplains.
699460 No.14712278
>>14703946
No beakie helmet, automatically gay.
4d4db5 No.14712597
>>14712278
>allowing mutants in
>not the gayest thing ever
pick one
545e5d No.14712619
>>14667373
>everyone who uses the phrase "meme game" is a retard
And thus the trend continues.
545e5d No.14712622
>>14671450
My only suggestion is to make sure you use JSawyerUltimate and not just regular JSawyer.
9d4899 No.14713341
>>14686642
I know that other one, Styxenhammer, said that fallout 4 was a good game.
40192e No.14720152
>>14667272
Still better than any JRPG.
353d74 No.14720236
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>>14667330
Fallout Miami for Fallout 4 soon as well.
153a23 No.14721212
>>14720236
Better be radsharks
c82eb3 No.14721325
>>14667376
Who is she? Looks kinda Assad-ish
a3d9f5 No.14721449
>>14703946
You have patrician taste. T-51B and NCR Salvaged Power Armor is my favorite looking power armor.
bd9dd5 No.14721457
Been playing Fonline Reloaded. It's a free to download / free to play fallout-based MMO.
I saved up 300k and literally bought a farm.
383a9c No.14723809
82e031 No.14730653
1725e8 No.14731059
>>14721457
the ruskies havent killed you yet?
82e031 No.14736114
>>14731059
Slavs are pretty nice when you get to know them.
beeb5a No.14736147
>>14721457
Do you still respawn in to a bunker with minigun turrets after you die?
82e031 No.14744285
>>14736147
I think so yes.
3e3437 No.14745845
>>14667272
Mark needs to ban faggots like you tbh.
e61ea0 No.14745863
>>14667368
>with a much less interesting map.
Wrong.
37039d No.14747070
I have a question about FO:NV. I'm playing it atm and I actually have never finished it on Caesar's path because how it lacks content compared to others and becomes relevant way too late in the game. Is there like a good mod that adds content to them and fixes this? Or do I have to rush to New Vegas to join them?
Also has Fallout 4 replaced Skyrim as the sex mod game yet?
82e031 No.14751107
>>14747070
>I have a question about FO:NV. I'm playing it atm and I actually have never finished it on Caesar's path because how it lacks content compared to others and becomes relevant way too late in the game. Is there like a good mod that adds content to them and fixes this? Or do I have to rush to New Vegas to join them?
Nope they have no content. Obsidian couldn't budget their time at all as usual and then blamed all of their failings on Bethesda. Then they kikestarted some games and the same thing happened.
01cd3f No.14755858
>>14751107
>and then blamed all of their failings on Bethesda.
That's right fellow goy, it's not like it's Bethesda standard tactics to rip off game studios and overtake them, like they did so many times already.
Bethesda didn't do nothing.
ef698a No.14760068
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Alright niggers, I just restarted with Fallout Nevada (Crazy Edition). Absolute god tier shit, though the translation isn't fully completely yet, some typos and miss spellings but still nothing too severe. Crazy Edition also fixes some bugs, adds more locations, more enemies and is overall tougher. Shit feels smoother overall too. I thought Fallout 1.5 was some good shit but this is even better.
c0cc81 No.14765537
Best fallout coming through.
383a9c No.14767825
>>14755858
Obsidian made just as bad games when they had no publisher, in this case they really are at fault.
383a9c No.14772412
>>14765537
1 was better but yeh 3 is the second best.
f3ed1b No.14772416
>>14772412
If you are going to shitpost, at least have the decency to sage.
13a3b5 No.14772777
a4852e No.14772808
>>14772768
Have this too https://yadi.sk/d/xwnnO1nJ3QnvSR
To apply english patch you have to unzip the 1_English in the root folder of the installation and then the 2_English one. This is the crazy edition though basically has more shit and bug fixes, uses a newer version of sFall as well.
42f260 No.14772848
ff7398 No.14775498
>>14667272
You are so funneh anon I laugh hard!
d2b66c No.14777174