/v/ - Video Games

Are there any other PS4/PC RPGs XSEED could realistically be talking about?

Is Coldsteel worth a playthrough?

>>14659845

Finally we can put NiSA in the coffin

>>14659855

>GoG streamer

As in, someone who was intending to promote the game on GoG?

That's fucking hilarious

>>14659855

>>14659881

also gonna need a sauce/link for this

>>14659862

Uh, they could be really stretching it and saying Sakuna is but I think that would be pretty deceitful. It also seems like the English PC version of that game fell off the map and will be happening at a later time.

>>14659907

Lots of Nips giving pissed off reviews in Steam.

anyone know how much different Nayuta no Kiseki v.4.14 and v4.15 is?

I'm very lazy and really don't want to fumble around with patches if the translation isn't that much better

>>14659878

Have you played Sky, anon?

>>14659914

what's the deal with KOS-MOS are they making remaster of xenosaga ?

>>14659950

They trademarked Xenosaga 3

http://nichegamer.com/2018/04/16/bandai-namco-trademarks-xenosaga-iii-subtitle-also-sprach-zarathustra/

>>14659933

No I'm a newfag to these games.

>>14659966

Better start with Sky, anon. It's on sale right now on GOG.

>>14659966

Cold Steel is the 6th game in the series and the third arc. While you can technically get into it there, it's a much better experience if you know the world and it's characters beforehand. The whole appeal of Trails is being a massive epic loaded with continuity porn.

>>14659977

>>14659994

Alright I'll go ahead and buy sky.

>>14659966 (checked)

>>14660000 (checked)

nice digits

Be patient with this series and it will reward you immensely

also make sure to do all sidequests as soon as you see them

>>14660028

Thanks.

>>14659917

>#186

Nice.

>>14660070

You never posted the first one.

>>14660076

It's pretty outdated by now.

>>14660090

so is the Ys primer. It never got updated with Ys Seven's port on PC, the actual english one by Xseed on GoG and Steam not the chinese one

>>14660093

It's slightly more updated. Now that a good Celceta PC port is being released and 8 also got released on PC, it's time I make a new guide. Probably by the time Celceta PC gets released.

>>14659929

The changelog says:

-Script update (1,000 - 1,500 changes)

-items table update

Sounds pretty significant if you ask me.

So, the pc port is literally unplayable?

>>14661139

I'd be shitting my pants if I was a NISA employee. Just seeing this kind of treatment by proxy would get me nervous if I were them.

I don't think the reviews will ever break 30% positive to be honest.

>>14661197

Well, it's at 25% now for me. Up from 23%, unfortunately.

>>14661219

>326 reviews

Considering it got about 100 more reviews since the last time I checked, 1-2% of an increase is definitely worth the overall flood and volume. Its gotten way too loud for them to ignore, and even more hard to salvage for them at this point.

Plus its been known to go even lower. I remember seeing it at 22% myself.

>its up to 26%

That's just great.

The funny thing is even if it ever got up to somewhere like 50% as unlikely as that is, it would still be considered awful by pretty much every metric and standard, thank god it was this low to begin with so NISA will never be able to truly recover and live it down

>>14661413

They activated the shills.

We must hate harder.

The only ones who will buy it are the retards, which means that the score will only rise from now. Sane people already know that it's absolute shit and won't buy it, so all that's left are the dumbasses with no standards.

>>14661504

>werks on my machine. Don’t listen to the 200+ reviews that say it doesn’t work for them! Only listen to me!

Good god kill these children, please.

>>14662243

You may be missing an obvious joke.

The CPU is overclocked.

The rest of the hardware is "enthusiast" grade.

You know how in the finale of ToCS2 there is an effect of space distorting around that vermillion knight? For some reason it didn't play for me correctly, instead the screen was frozen for the duration of it. No idea what's up, there was a similar effect in ToCS and it worked just fine there. Any ideas?

>>14662594

Most people's experiences with level scaling is bad.

Level scaling is, outside of a few specific applications, a facet of lazy game design. Borderlands, Goyrim, Fallout 4, etc.

They don't want to create an original, challenging game so they just have enemies level with you so the game's enemies are "never obsolete".

What they don't do is balance anything for level scaling.

Duvalie is such a sore loser. Can't wait to humiliate her again.

>>14663168

Although her english voice is fine, her japanese voice is that much better (When you realise it's the same VA as Satania it's even better). I really hope if it gets localized they put in the effort to get dual audio. It also recently clicked that Millium is voiced by the same VA as Renge from NNB, but I guess that's what happens when you've only got the dub to listen to.

>>14663407

Yeah, it's as you say. That's why I avoid using that chart, despite looking pretty damn good.

Anybody know the font used in Cold Steel's dialogue?

>>14664010

Get used to it. There's a mine in almost every Falcom game.

>>14663353

while browsing the internet i saw a steam post regarding the game's weird defense scaling or something. and saw someone mentioning that the enemies scale to your level and then i researched further and people found out months ago that ys8 and even celceta had level scaling for some reason. Im probably just too much concerned about potential huge difficulty spikes

>>14664010

Don't worry the best Ys game doesn't have a mine at all

>>14662689

I used to play the shit out of oblivion when I was younger. I loved it but even then I thought that the level scaling was the stupidest thing ever. Made me forever consider level scaling a detriment. At best it removes the feeling of progression.

>>14664293

That is how they normally advertise their games for japan. For example; Tokyo Xanadu's site doesn't mention the PC release; https://www.falcom.co.jp/txana_explus/

But they always advertise the newest release on their twitter regardless of the region like just recently with Ys Origin's Xbox One port. Watch when Ys Celceta's PC port rolls around they'll tweet about it within 24 hours of it's release

>>14664400

Gotcha

>>14664550

It is just a test by the Goddess, her turning sides is part of the plan. Ouroboros exists to unleash the remnants of the old pacts so that the Goddess can observe humanities new answer. It is not like Steel Maiden-Sama would be evil.

>>14659837

>NISA

are these guys one of those groups of marxist sjweeb faggot enablers that are currently doing their hardest to monopolize and gatekeep anime, j-vidya production and TLs like what netflix, CR, fakku and the cartel subs are doing right now?

>>14664603

I honestly don't think Duvalie changing sides will be planned. She was never a loyal member. She said it herself: she doesn't have the darkness in her that it requires. She followed Arianrhod because she seemed like the epitome of justice and virtue, which mattered to her a lot after the murder of her family. However, the events of CS3, especially the ending, seem to have shaken her faith in who she works for. So I fully expect Duvalie's side change to be completely genuine and I also think Arianrhod will be proud of her for doing so, but she probably won't say that until close to the end.

>>14663967

Cuprum

>>14664903

I meant more like in typical Japanese writing, where at the end of CS4 Arianrhod will say that she expected Duvalie to switch sides. Not that Duvalie does so on purpose as a scheme.

>>14665487

Good Grief.

>>14665496

Reset the clock on: Days since NISA's last lie.

>>14665487

Really? It isn't a screen from the previous version?

>>14665902

Nope, that’s the current PC version.

I heard about NIS (Nippon Ichi Software) firing its employees and hiring them back in order to avoid raising pay checks, but I cant seem to find any source on this story.

Probably off-topic despite the current discussion of nisa with ys pc port

>>14665487

Jesus Christ.

>>14665487

I also have no idea what ching chong because I cannot learn Japanese, so I guess I can sympathise with Reja.

Tried Ys Origin, because apparently it's the best game in the series and breezed through it until I got to the girl with the spear and she simply fucks my shit up every time in one hit. I refuse to play on anything but hard

What do?

>>14666157

is it true controls are just shit without gamepad?

>>14666157

Level up. One level can help a lot in Ys games. Have you been getting the Cleria Ore for upgrades? Have you been upgrading your armor from the statues?

>>14666173

I don't think I even had the money for anything at the point I encountered her, it's the first boss. Reinstalling the game right now, maybe I'll find some upgrades. I think my main problem was something about movement and aiming at the same time, default KB+M controls are aids

>>14664649

Yes

>>14666157

i've been wanting to play Ys Origins for a while but i've been putting it off. I tried it a bit and I enjoyed the gameplay/ music. Hows the story?

>>14663407

Leeza was in the 16-bit Ys IV games, she was always useless.

>>14666391

The story is great. Mainly Yunica and Toal. Hugo is the worst part by far in gameplay and in story. I say give it another go but know you’ll be going up the same tower, with the same bosses, with a slightly different story a total of three times.

>>14665487

>>14666822

Aksys didn’t even do the port. They gave it to ghostlight.

>>14666833

Didn't Ghostlight do the Neptunia ports? they were always very mediocre or maybe it's a different porting team, i'm surpised it runs so well and i never had a crash once.

>>14666842

I know they did the Way of the Samurai ports and 4 crashed for seemingly no reason every time I would try starting it. I don’t know if they ever patched it.

I remember now why I couldn't beat first boss in Ys Origin, KB+M controls are definitely fucking AIDS and I feel a strong urge to start clawing at my face. Did anybody find a way to play at high difficulties with keyboard and/or mouse or does it require a console controller?

>>14667051

I mean, I just got gud but yeah, KB/M on Ys games aren’t the best. They’re serviceable but you really just have to get used to it all.

>>14664065

I'm fairly sure there's not level scaling, but I haven't tested it. The monster manual has levels and stats listed for all the enemies, and on Inferno you end up 20+ levels under the end-game enemies/bosses. the screenshot is from a machine translated jap wiki btw

Has Nihon Falcom made an official statement about NIS and the state of their awful port? Has any of the unhappy japs complained to them yet?

>>14669474

They're never gonna say something officially and you're silly if you think they will. It's just a bad business decision.

Is there a single game in this series that isnt translated like shit and therefore is worth playing?

>>14669560

Which series? Ys? Trails? Xanadu? Falcom is a company. There's have a lot of series. Most Ys games are well translated except VIII. All of the five Trails games (so far) that have been translated were done well. Xanadu Next also. Tokyo Xanadu has memes 'cause Arksys.

>>14669474

Falcom haven’t even promoted the PC version of Ys VIII despite always promoting their games releasing in other regions. Hell, they’re promoting the Japanese PS4 version of it still and they promoted the Xbone version of Ys Origin after Ys VIII PC released. Kondo must have sent orders to not acknowledge it.

>>14670115

Are we going to hear about how NISA headquarters has been raided by red haired ninjas who slaughtered the entire company staff?

>>14670115

Why would they promote something this unstable and bad? It's the sort of thing I'd not post about and try to sweep under the rug.

>>14670125

Why would the Irish care enough to send assassins? How would they even get to America from their island, they cannot exactly make a ship out of potatoes.

>>14670149

The point of my post was answering the question of “have the unhappy japs complained to them yet?” Which is a resounding yes going by their lack of promotion.

>>14667051

KB+ M is actually superior in Ys since it's much easier to do diagonal movement precisely.

Get good nigger

played a little of YS 8 on PC, damn it looks cool( for a ys game) and plays so great but it's a non stop crash shitshow and i can't even play for 5 minutes without it Ctd. Fuck NISA and FALCOM for allowing this garbage.

>>14664649

I sometimes wonder if anyone in here actually read anything made by marx

>>14672331

No, economics are difficult and make people's head hurt, just parrot what the jpg said I do however not trust translators who consider their vision to be more important than an accurate translation. Japanese has another issue of having a different sentence structure and terms which do not translate 1-to-1.

>>14672331

I will add to this that after Cold Steel 4 they might introduce anarchist or early workers movement type factions to spice things up a litlle.

Kiseki is already politics heavy,i imagine how a kiseki arc could try to do a solely social/politically driven plot, no mcguffin, no super secret organization, etc

maybe in 2035 when they finally run out of ideas

>>14672521

my friend is doing a gbc Bayblade game rn, he knows japanese but cannot write dialog well so he only translates a rough version and then the editor writes a version that fits in the dialog boxes.

I brought up the Localization != Translation debate and it really made me think.

Even from English to Spanish a lot of things gets lost in translation.

>>14672813

You will be ok. It is a good place to grind anyways so if you feel someone is weak it should be easy to get them on par with the rest.

>>14672835

Time to finish those goddamn doors then.

After this i'll start CS 1 and slowly play it waiting for the Zero tl. this is a good plan

Locked by accident, love you guys.

>>14672859

didn't even notice but thanks for the apology in any case cakeboi

play some falcom games if you haven't already too

>>14672813

literally my own levels, except my kevin and ries were 134/135

>>14672958

His smile and optimism: gone.

>>14672972

I'm trying to take it all in and process all the information, but Rixia's ass is successfully distracting me from that. Have mercy, Falcom.

>>14673080

Can the people that compile those multi-images be any more of a sad sight? Bring yourself back to reality bro

>>14672813

I was 135 going in, the monsters inside will boost you to 140 easily. If you can get 142 - 143 you should be good. Just remember to buy any ingredients you need for cooking, you won't get another chance and it could save you.

>>14673080

>Modified Chinese dress.

Yes

>>14672997

>>14673080

Rixia climbing ladders pretty much erases the feelings you have about the ending.

>>14674803

>sexualising falcom characters

I bet you support NISA too

>>14675185

>he doesn't know that towa is for handholding

So. Scale of 1 to 10, how anally devistated are you all going to be when NISA reveals they got ToCS III and YsVIII at the same time and were NDA required to keep hush on the second until this year?

>>14675626

I would fly to japan to laugh directly in Kondo's face and ask him how many NIS employees are fucking his wife.

>>14675626

Learn English NISA shill

Is the PC port of YSVIII even worth a pirate at this stage?

>>14676553

No. The chance of it actually working are slim so you might as well just save your time. Considering NISA's past with PC ports, they won't fix everything or at all.

Finished 3rd, whats next?

>>14676553

This is an anecdotal so take it as you will. I downloaded the first CODEX release and have spent around 50 hours on it. Haven't had the game crash on me once when I was in gameplay but it did freeze when I skipped an event(cutscene) too quickly. On ng+ now and honestly it's playable, at least for me. The frame rate varies depending on the level but boss fights are smooth. I have a pretty outdated computer (r9 280, amd 8320) and running it with all the graphic options turned off. Probably the single worst thing I have encountered is the sky flickering but it happens in 1 or 2 levels.

I'd say download it, see how it runs on the ship and in the tutorial boss if it doesn't want to work then don't bother.

t. NISA marketing department

>>14676897

Coldsteel 1 or the Crossbell games. I don't know if the latter should be before or after CS1, but you can safely play CS1 without them. And CS1 also happens to actually be translated.

>>14676897

The Ring of Judgement manga. :^)

>>14676897

Loewe Monogatari

>>14677292

Will it ever be fully translated?

>>14677292

>>14677303

Is it still just the first two chapters?

Here's the Loewe manga, be aware of a Zero spoiler.

https://imgur.com/a/sHXdy

https://imgur.com/a/l2B2L

https://imgur.com/a/F0aLH

>>14678125

Oh fuck, nevermind, those are actually full volumes, not chapters. Damn.

>>14676897

https://www.esterior.net/2016/08/translation-wednesday-bonus-ring-of-judgment-complete-download/

By the way, here's Ring of Judgement. It's literally called "Zero no Kiseki Prestory".

>>14678125

>phucking

why

>>14659837

What are the Japanese news articles like?

>>14679666

http://archive.is/lfLsT

I'll give you a rough translation and cut out the parts that don't matter

>The much-delayed PC version of "Ys VIII" has finally been released. However, users have reported a series of glitches and poor optimization.

>NISA, a US subsidiary of Nippon Ichi Software, released the PC version of Action RPG "Ys VIII - Lacrimosa of DANA -" on Steam at the 17th of April at $60.

>The PC version was originally planned to be released last September, but the optimization was more difficult than anticipated and had to be repeatedly delayed. The port has finally been released, but as of this article being posted the Steam reviews are over 75% negative. Many of the reviews complain of a lack of optimization.

Wow, it's literally crashed every single time chapter 1 started.
Good job NISA. I hope Falcom goes back to XSeed pic.twitter.com/u9fquzNE2P
— Stolken (@TheStolken) April 16, 2018

>It suffers from many problems, but one of the most common complaints are the frequent crashes. One user reports that the game crashes every time after beating the prologue, similar complaints are made throughout other reviews. There are apparently many points where the game crashes.

>NISA know of the issues and have said they are working on solutions. For a temporary fix until the game is patched, change the controller support for your choice of controller from the Steam client. It's believed this postpone crashing at the beginning of the game, but with a decrease in FPS. Several users have said that crashing can be reduced by changing shadow rendering and other settings.

>NISA acknowledges the errors users have reported on the Steam forums and stated their future solutions. They said the problem is with VSync and it will be fixed withing the next 48 hours, they will attempt to fix the issues such as controller-related crashes, screen flickering and shadow rendering errors. They also said they will fix audio problems, the fullscreen option and issues related to text.

There's a bit more but it doesn't matter much, just talking about how the issues came from the PS4 architecture being so different and how users are comparing this to Dark Souls' original PC port.

>>14679694

>>14679719

Also worth mentioning that they used several month old unoptimized shaders that had been fixed in beta builds and locked the internal resolution to 1800p, making the game unplayable on lower-end computers. (like mine) Both of these problems were fixed by fans within a couple days of release.

>>14679934

XSEED could've had a character (Zin?) say "Oh, Shura is a term they use in the East that means…", but they probably chose the better option.

>>14679934

>the whole Shura thing is a state of mind, and fits in with Loewe's new perception of the world.

That also makes sense since Joshua beats him in a duel if it was some supernatural quality then that would never have happened.

>>14672859

Mark what's your favorite falcom game?

>>14675626

Sorry, I don´t know about any "ToCS III". I think you meant to say Trayectory of Flash 3?

>https://steamcommunity.com/app/579180/discussions/0/3288067088123863870/

oy vey the goyim know

>>14681359

pls archive

fag

>>14681385

https://archive.is/vAbBW

>>14681716

The screencap for those who are wondering is this >>14659845

How good are the Zwei games? I've ran out of worthwhile things to play and usually, Falcom games don't suck. They seem like cute and comfy Ys-lite games, which could be nice.

Does CS1 spoil Crossbell?

>>14682758

Zwei II is really fucking good and worth playing, It's in my top 5 falcom games.

Zwei 1 is really aged like it has a lot going for it but the core combat is stale in comparison to any of falcom's other action rpgs.

>>14682770

Cold Steel 1 is pretty much it’s own self contained story meant to build Erebonia. If you’ve played the other games/read the mangas, you’ll see a lot of nods to them in it, but no outright spoilers.

>>14682770

Nothing huge exactly, but there will be a few things you will know will happen if you play CS first. However the same is true for Crossbell, Ao specifically.

>>14682781

Actually ended up getting II. It's such a fun, cute little game and I actually really like the characters so far. The gameplay is a bit simple to date but I'm only 2 hours in so I can't really judge.

Wish we'd get more of this kind of game instead of mediocre, stale shit. I was so disappointed that the PC port of Ys VIII sucked, though we all could see it coming.

>>14683521

Tell us how it goes anon; I'm interested in the Zwei games too but wasn't sure if I should buy them

>>14683521

>Wish we'd get more of this kind of game instead of mediocre, stale shit. I was so disappointed that the PC port of Ys VIII sucked, though we all could see it coming.

Well after you are done Zwei II you can play Nayuta no Kiseki which is essentially Zwei III in terms of gameplay. Plus it has a fan translation.

>NIS America, Inc.

>"There’s no reason to be passing on one of the best JRPGs of this generation of games."

>Wow, check out this review from @bitcultures for Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of DANA on PC! #YsVIII

archive.li/2pU0A

They are full of shit

>>14686274

>Plagued with some technical issues

Why did they think using "plagued" was a good idea if they want people to play it

>"b-but they'll patch it"

And it will probably be more broken after the patch.

>>14676553

i did and it does not stop crashing

>>14686274

Christ, is piracy + extensive user-made patching the only way I'll ever be able to play the full game?

>>14664010

you can play origins since you have finished 1 and 2

Epilogue of CS2 right now.

I have no idea why everyone is leaving Thors, but I'm sure I'll find out soon enough. The night at the dormitory with its farewell talks is killing me, hurts too much. Why is this allowed.

>>14687026

You got sum sauce for that?

>>14687020

Everyone except Rean decides to take an accelerated curriculum, where they take their second year classes during the end of the first year. How they manage to cram it in I do not know, but they do. The reason is that many of them feel like they have to move on. The reasons all relate to how the events of CS2 impacted the class.

>>14686913

>getting

Just fucking pirate the PC version

>How fucked is it?

It's got typical random instances of NISA "flavoring" the script but the port isn't as fucked since there was a PC release in japan before hand

>>14687085

Elves, Brown Elves moreso, love getting fucked. So, the anon is telling you it's fucked.

>>14687137

Ah, that is a shame. I guess I'll pirate it as >>14687112 advised.

>>14687283

You should always pirate NISA games.

>>14687112

>It's got typical random instances of NISA "flavoring" the script

proof? I played the game and the dialogue was just fine, you're just making shit up.

>>14689302

Oh lawdy. Channeling her BDSM love.

>>14689302

>Sharon will never tie you up

Feels bad, man. You find any other redesigns?

>>14689325

What's the deal with Caim anyways.

was he really a mass murderer that enjoys the thrill of killing more than his family/friends?

>>14672813

Yes. Absolutely yes. Mute bastard genocided several races, killed off child soldiers and pedos and brought down a continent spanning empire.

>>14689867

>>14689839

Should i wait for the official steam/gog port of celceta or is it safe to play the chinese translated port or is it buggy or having performance issues?

This website was reported to Valve for investigation of fake reviews, Valve appears to be looking into the issue.

Valve volunteers are becoming active in defending NIS America and "debunking" damaging statements.

>>14689896

the chinese port is not good. Just wait for the English version.

>>14689900

>NISAfags are this desperate

Hilarious.

>>14689900

>Valve appears to be looking into the issue.

And I expect nothing to come of it. Just because one autist got butthurt doesn't mean jack. How the hell are they going to determine which negative review is "fake" and which one is real? They can't.

>>14689951

Good. She looked like a dweeb before. Now she actually looks better than Vita.

>>14689978

>shitting on megane

How is it possible to have an opinion so wrong?

>>14689985

Some people are just born with shit taste. However, I will say I like her with and without her glasses and feel as though this is a step in character growth for her.

>>14690011

Contact lenses are a thing, anon.

>>14690011

Yes, she didn't need the glasses. That was addressed in CS2.

>>14690020

I'd like to see contact lenses for animu eyes.

>>14689946

People being referred from this website can be tracked if they clicked on a link that takes them to Steam.

>>14667051

Works with a PC controller too.

>>14690025

https://mangapark.com/manga/gyagu-manga-biyori/s1/v9/c166

That manga chapter is in the anime too, but I don't remember which season and which episode.

>>14690039

archives and breaking links should be enough to solve that

in any case, we don't even have enough UIDs (not including numerous ones that changed) in this thread to account for even a 1/5 of the reviews right now anyways; they have no case

also it looks like there are a lot more positive reviews now; they're up to 31 and worse, the hardest hitting reviews seem to have been removed from the front page of the game; Seta's review can only be viewed if you hit "all reviews" it looks like, despite the most amount of people finding it helpful

>>14690166

It's been at 31 percent positive for a few days now at the very least.

>>14690023

She doesn't need glasses, because she can compensate with magic. Her eyesight is not exactly perfect.

>>14690407

No wonder she became an enforcer.

>>14690585

Just a waiting game until people fix all of the problems for NISA.

>>14690585

Gog version working perfectly fine for me, except one time when I tabbed back and the sound was gone. Also fighting that dinosaur thing early on gave me some fps drops which shouldn't have happened on my machine. Not a single crash so far but ymmv.

>>14690957

speaking of which the GoG version has fallen under 3 stars, nice job lads

>>14690967

The strangest part is that there are absolutely no reviews being shown on the page. You'd think there would be a couple at least, but nope.

Not him but I'm pretty sure that's Aura Shurifon.

>>14691437

>>14687078

>>14687026

>>14687020

Everyone's leaving because the events of CS1 and 2 impacted their paths. They realize what they want to do and are going to leave Thors in order to do it. Elliot wants to study music, Gaius wants to protect his home, Laura wants to train under her father, Machias wants to get into politics. Alisa wants to train to take over her mother's company, while Fie decides that she needs to become a Bracer. Jusis takes over his province because Rufus is busy fucking Crossbell. Millium returns to Osbourne's side as an Ironblood and Emma decides to take her role more seriously, leaving to go learn about her role, Valimar, etc

The only one who doesn't move on is Rean, because him being able to control Valimar, and him being Osborne's son has wrecked his life to the point where he's unable to choose his future for himself. His future seems predetermined, and at this point he's mostly resigned to it.

>>14689302

>>14690407

My god.

>>14693628

I'm sorry anon. There's no possible way Ys VIII will just be tossed to some other company and be ported unless there's an updated version of Ys VIII that isn't handled by NISA. Unless you own a PS4/Vita and import it to directly give money to Falcom, NISA has fucked over possibly the best Ys game to come out in a long time. At least we're getting a better version of Celceta as compensation.

>>14693628

Here's your real answer, all bullshit aside. Get pen and paper and get on it. Resource thread is that way >>14658727

What is wrong with the PSP ports of Napishtim and Felghana? The guide lists them as bad but im wondering specifically whats wrong.

>>14694637

Mainly low frame rate and if I remember correctly they had long loading times.

>>14694654

Werent the long loading times just a plaguing issue of UMDs? (which were greatly reduced once you went digital instead)

>>14693918

how does that bring it to pc?

>>14697195

All of the female characters have pantsu. The cool part is that Falcom went the extra mile and gave them all different pantsu

>>14697275

It is part of their extensive world building.

>>14697739

Just, like, play games. Know that it's old and Tom decided to take some liberties in the localization

>>14697789

>>14697960

I remember reading the localization blogs that Tom seemed really passionate about this game; he called it his most favorite to translate, ever so I'm pretty surprised to hear and see this. Did anyone translate the original text for those lines so we could compare how fucked it was? Seems a large part of the game is the humorous and light-hearted tone of it.

>… really can’t stress enough how much fun it was to write for these characters, and how inspired I was to come up with the perfect phrasing for every line. I’m extremely appreciative that we chose to translate the game in-house, as it gave me an opportunity to work much more deeply with this script than I ever could’ve if we’d only been tasked with editing it. As time went on, I found myself revising my work on a daily basis, making small tweaks here and there as new bits of wordplay or better puns popped into my head (much to Matt’s chagrin, I’m sure!). The end result is something that I can stand behind as a faithful interpretation of the game’s mood and intent – an attempt to convey the same degree of lighthearted fun and irreverence present in every line of the Japanese script, but formatted to sound more natural in English, accounting for context, tone, atmosphere, and individual character quirks rather than just hammering out a word-for-word translation.

>I’ve never laughed so hard while playing a JRPG before, and I truly hope that when you guys play this one in English, you’ll find its English interpretation just as hilarious as I found its original Japanese to be. That would mean I succeeded at what I set out to do, and would bring me great joy and pride as a localizer!

http://www.xseedgames.com/2017/12/02/zwei-the-arges-adventure-localization-blog-1/

He really seemed to care about this one; iirc they added in some art commissioned by an artist that was approved by Falcom for some collectible shit that otherwise didn't give anything

>>14698074

> The curtain is drawn. But only becuase this is a 2D game. Otherwise, it'd be rendered

That one's pretty good.

It's not the puns that bother me, it's just the memes, because that fucking "don't ever talk to me or my son again" thing is an old goddamned meme. I don't want any memes in my games, new or old.

> iirc they added in some art commissioned by an artist that was approved by Falcom for some collectible shit that otherwise didn't give anything

neat

>>14698047

probabbly because pokkle like to make puns.

you cant exactly translate puns to another language so they just put a meme instead

>>14698954

That's not a good enough excuse in my opinion. The only time a meme should even be considered is in place of another meme, and even then that's iffy in my opinion. That or present in easter eggs or some bullshit, nothing that interferes with the game.

I wish I could see the original text for that joke, I could partially forgive them if it was at least still relevant towards the actual dialogue

>>14698954

You put a new pun in place of the original. You know, like how Ace Attorney does it. That’s not a good excuse when even the simplest brain function can give you better results.

>>14699031

i think it is, they are in the church of the light godness that why he used the world "sun"

also in my language there is a pun "arroz arrozado" that in english it would be something like "pink rice" how do yoou translate such pun?

>>14699031

>You put a new pun in place of the original

and so they did

>dont ever talk to me or my "sun" ever again

while the original meme is

>dont talk to me or my son ever again.

its a pun that pokkle did probbablly because they were talking about the godness of light.

so there they changed a pun for another.

>>14699066

>its a pun that pokkle did probbablly because they were talking about the godness of light.

Hm.

That's not so bad then, in my opinion

>>14699078

exactly thats why i dont understand why everyone keeps saying its bad.

but have in mind i dont know the original text or have played the translate game yet, so i may be wrong about the whole thing

>>14697135

Agate's gonna give in one day, much to Erika's chagrin.

>>14699066

Yeah so far I am now ~2 hours in. Pokkle (or whatever his name is I changed it) just makes puns out of everything. The chick basically talks like normal. They don't really feel forced if you ask me and it contributes to their character. If the puns/jokes are out of character, then I'd have an issue, but overall it seems alright. I really enjoy the artstyle, music, and general feel of the game. Feels very chill. The characters talk like they're actually siblings. If you're expecting the game to be ultra serious, you might run into some issues with it though.

>tfw gotta keep hiding posts so I'm not tempted to hover over, read or otherwise think about potential spoilers

its worth it to be in these threads though

>>14699088

In general translating anything into a meme, regardless of if it was a meme-type joke or not prior, leaves a bad taste in people's mouths because, frequently, other localization outfits have inserted memes where they don't belong to the detriment of the story and use them as a crutch because they're shit at their jobs. and the faggots will eat memeshit up

I think as long as you are maintaining the joke type and subject as much as you can as you can it's not the worst possible thing.

The issue arises when a localizer sees a joke or a particular character type and sees it as free reign to turn the entire game into meme-central or reference (((current events))) and, in addition to releasing a shit localization, causing the game to age rapidly due to the nature of memes.

I'm sure this isn't well-known, but Zwei!! is full of 2001 2ch memes. That's almost impossible to translate for a 2018 Western audience.

>>14699589

>other localization outfits have inserted memes where they don't belong to the detriment of the story

basically fire emblem if with the "…"

yeah i get it there is no shortage of examples of localizers puting memes and jokes out of place and ruining the characters

but like i said so far i didnt saw xseed doing this, and people normally show >>14697992 pic to prove that they did, but if you know the character the chances are very low that is what is actually happened.

but dont get me wrong, tom is cuck and i guive him 2 years, tops, for him to cuck a game. so just enjoy it while you can

>>14698954

>they just put a meme instead

that doesn't make it okay.

>>14699812

read my other posts

>>14686469

How the fuck do you get "Trails of Cold Steel" from 閃の軌跡. Did XSeed just make it up?

>>14700572

Yes. Falcom did approve the name change.

>>14700572

If I remember correctly, Sen means "the reflection of the sun flashing on a blade that is being drawn". Since that is a pretty much untranslatable in a reasonable manner, they took Cold Steel from the OST track "The Glint of Cold Steel".

>>14700697

I thought "cold steel" was edgy meme material enough on its own but holy shit

If you want NISA to change you need to contact NIS directly. Because it looks like Japan is believing what western MSM and localizers are telling them.

Gaming got worse because you didn't make yourself heard.

Are you gonna lose your fanservice? Your non-left leaning stories? Japanese games stop getting translated or sold on the west because they just don't sell?

Make your voice heard. Send an email to your favorite Japanese dev and explain- even in broken Japanese.

Right now.

>>14700880

Why would I want NISA to change?

I'd rather they just be destroyed financially.

People here already emailed Falcom directly which is what got the apology and all these delays and bullshit to begin with, leading to arguably NISA's biggest fuck up ever.

>>14700898

The angry emails is exactly what I mean.

Very few will drop their localizers on emails alone. But when those localizers have to fix their own mess (and don't know how) they'll trip over themselves and fail.

It is impossible for localization to fix itself- only by becoming translation (hiring people who understand the language, culture, and games). So instead, it's likely multiple instances where a company got angry emails will result in it shuttering. If NISA or Crunchyroll lost 99.9% of their staff, and hired people who actually knew what they were doing, I'd be happy (once they showed they could do it correctly & consistently). But it's far more likely those companies will just implode once no one in Japan will give them business.

If you let them slowly crash and burn naturally (assuming they don't just keep lying to Japan just enough to repackage anything and sell it to normalfags and SJWeebs who use them as conversation points to make people believe they aren't fake), there is a risk that they'll burn down your favorite titles if you never get heard.

> I guess the west just doesn't like these games/anime, lets not bother doing translation of any kind.

You won't get jack shit, except children's games & anime, since that'll be the only thing not deemed "offensive" as localizers move the goal-posts.

GG forced the left to overplay its hand so everyone understood what they were doing with Trump better. Forcing your opponent to move first and over commit leaves them nothing once everyone knows their song & dance.

There is nothing to lose by sending an email except 5/10 minutes of your own time. What happened with Falcom should be the standard every time NISA or any other localization house screws up.

I'd like there to be a team of people constantly emailing Jap companies the fuck-ups of the past, but it won't have as much weight. Instead you have to wait until a fuck-up happens, then attach all that localizer's dirty laundry in one email, as well as kicking up a stink online/social media.

tl;dr - Wait & watching them burn might not kill them, and stop games you really want coming across.

Throwing gas on the fire almost guarantees their death, gives Japan a little more clarity, and is fun to watch.

>>14700948

You're pretty much correct on every point.

Come to think of it, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to send Falcom another email on this one, since its another huge fuck up on their part. Just didn't come to mind; reminders like this are always helpful, I'll see what I can do.

>>14700963

No reason not to. Think about their response to fixing their errors- it's taking weeks, and they are breaking more shit as they try to fix it.

If your car took ages to fix, and the mechanic said he "found" new problems, as you can see his underlings throwing their hands up in despair as they just did something wrong, you'd demand better.

If your meal came up wrong, and you heard the kitchen staff in upheaval because they kept fucking up the meal you actually ordered, you'd demand better.

If a movie theater had the reel break, and the guy in the projection booth kept hooking up the wrong films and took ages to do it, you'd demand better.

Western AAA have tried to push the idea of "fix it after it's out", but this is the first time in a long time a dev has truly listened and tried to solve the problem.

Just don't be rude to Falcom. Be sympathetic, understanding, and concerned. After all, they didn't directly hire the morons behind this.

>>14701602

>>14700572

AFAIK Falcom likes XSeed's English titles so much, they use them in their own marketing (I think this was for Trails in the Sky)

>>14701607

The official manga is called Trails in the Sky.

I learned this from a chest in the third.

>>14701602

I think cold steel makes sense if you look at the tanks and massive steel forts that Erebonia loves to splurge on.

>>14701622

There's a huge emphasis on technology. The railway/trains, the tanks, the mechs too.

>>14701622

>>14701630

Both of these are also true.

>>14701622

That and the symbolism with Rean’s sword as well as Valimar it’s a name that fits but unfortunately a lot of people can’t separate good names from memes.

>>14702814

>You’ll never have a threesome with them

Why even live?

>>14700475

I smell relationship drama.

>>14700880

If I remember correctly something like "cold steel" was heavily considered for the name by falcom. It is only some rumor I heard somewhere so take it with a grain of salt

>>14702908

for get threesome neither will ever bully your dick

>>14700880

>Japanese games stop getting translated or sold on the west because they just don't sell?

>Japan drops the west as a market

>forced to put their domestic market first

>JP games have a renaissance as oddball games full of titty monsters dominate the JP game landscape

>sites like Play Asia give me reliable access to these games

>no fucks given because I know moon

>no more gatekeepers to ruin my games

I think I'd be okay with that future.

>>14703137

They both bully your dick during the threesome

>>14703214

>forced to put their domestic market first

Most nips have shit taste, anon.

>>14703232

I would be happy with just one

>>14703255

this is a lot truer than most people realize

They eat up gacha shit that would make wales in the west blush

>>14700697

I thought Cold Steel referred to railway tracks, as I think Erobonia uses trains more than Liberal using Air liners.

>>14701602

>>14700697

Wrong. 閃 very simply means "flash", and doesn't necessarily have to have anything at all to do with blades. It's a deliberate and arbitrary change on par with anything of the shit Treehouse and Nisa pulls.

>きらりと光る。ひらめく

https://kotobank.jp/word/%E9%96%83-549251#E3.83.87.E3.82.B8.E3.82.BF.E3.83.AB.E5.A4.A7.E8.BE.9E.E6.B3.89

>>14703506

Here's the tumblr link with the official reasoning behind it. Not trying to change your mind, just giving it from the horse's mouth.

http://xseedgames.tumblr.com/post/120804314195/the-legend-of-heroes-trails-series-localization

>>14703506

"cold steel" was made up by Falcom you stupid shit

>>14704574

Is that the original name of the track in Japanese?

ザ・グリント・オブ・コールド・スチール

Can't wait Legend of Super Heroes: Jouney of the Flash 3 to be localized.

>>14704716

>sen is definitely NEVER used as a sound effect for a blade draw/flash and has no such commonly known attachment to such actions that would make sense to a Japanese audience

Nice strawman, faggot. I never even said that.

>>14704762

Are you too fucking lazy to even read the two posts I was responding to? One of the posts claimed that it was some mystical untranslatable moonspeak. The other claimed that it was some super specific terminology that strictly meant "the reflection of the sun flashing on a blade that is being drawn" and thus couldn't easily be translated. I pointed out that this is wrong, and that the term has a simple basic meaning of "flash", which can be used broadly in a wide variety of circumstances.

Oh, I get it, you're just white knighting to defend an arbitrary change by some tumblr cunt who probably sucked off the guys at Falcom for approval. If some cunt decided to randomly change the title of Super Mario Bros to "Mushroom Brick Madness" for 'superior' marketability and she sucked off Yamauchi's wrinkly old dick back in the 80's to gain "official" approval, I bet you'd be defending that decision just as adamantly back then too.

>>14704729

Siliconera actually used Trails in the Flash until the official name was revealed.

>>14704894

Shit, that's pretty cool. It tells me that XSeed and Falcom are supposed to have a good relationship.

I hope you regret attempting to cuck XSeed with NISA, Falcom

>>14704784

imagine being this much of a sperg

there's plenty of ways to shit on XSEED legitimately but this isn't one of them

>>14705969

Shit on them for the memes in Zwei 1. Shitting on them for utilizing one of the many different meanings of a Japanese word and having the Jap company who made the product approve of it and actively use it themselves? I agree, it’s bullshit and makes me wonder if that anon isn’t just running defense for some other company himself with how hard he’s trying to swing. It’s pathetic, really. If he shows up next thread just hide him/don’t reply. It won’t be worth it and will just drag the thread down.

>>14706037

but dude the memes in zwei 1 are okay because they included puns in the memes

>>14700880

>Japanese games stop getting translated or sold on the west because they just don't sell

I hope this happens because I hate white people being interested in Japanese/Asian media exports

t. Korean

>>14707079

>as look as

**as long as

Why am I crying… fuck.

>>14707156

>ending

it is the only one that had an actual ending

>>14707242

That's fair.

>>14707079

anon I'm curious, have you played any Falcom games?

This is literally the least important thing out of anything to be fucking talking about in a Falcom thread ever when you could actually be talking about something of value to the games

Also your suggestions are shit except maybe trails of fleeting light which is still meh at best

>Nintendo approved all kinds of shitty changes in Fire Emblem Fates, does that somehow validate them? I bet you think censorship isn't censorship as look as the Western branch of the company proposes it and the Nip parent company accepts it due to marketing considerations.

Where's your proofs that Ninty of Japan approved anything and didn't just let NoA do whatever the fuck they want, since they're a large branch with some degree of autonomy?

This is literally directly from the Falcom president's mouth; they have no other branches elsewhere.

>name sounds appealing to normalfags

nigger, where did normalfags get mentioned anywhere?

At this point you're spouting buzzwords without any consideration for anything. If a name sounds better it sounds better.

>but so what

lol nice argument

Why are you fucking in this thread? You have better uses for your time like talking about the fucking games

>>14707663

>Why are you fucking in this thread?

Isn't it obvious? To shit on XSeed. He's said absolutely nothing about Falcom games other than what he can cherry pick for that specific purpose. He's not here because he likes Falcom, he's here because he hates XSeed. Either way, he's a waste of time. If he shows up in the next thread just ignore him. He has no intention of engaging in any actual discourse. You see his kind on cuckchan all the time. It's highly likely he's here because their idiot data thieving nip keeps fucking their site and he can't get his shitposting fix on the cuck/vg/ Falcom thread.

I just finished Ys SEVEN and currently playing Ys I. So I'm guessing that you got to be cautious around blue haired girls in this series, right?

>>14710182

What would happen if you used burst?

>>14710132

I mean, no. I can see why you’d think that since you started with SEVEN.

>nameautist fucked off to the Vita thread to cry

Hilarious.

Anyone baking? I could just copy the OP but that's the limit of what I can do.

>>14714610

Do it.

New Bread

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