371b78 No.14715098
DON'T FORGET TO SUPPORT THE GAMES, BUT DON'T FALL FOR THE NISA BULLSHIT
>Latest News
- After an email campaign, a retranslation, apologies, and 7 months of delays, Ys 8 finally got released on PC. And NISA fucked up, the port is so terrible that only 25% of the Steam reviews being positive. Western and Japanese websites are reporting this story. In other words, a huge backlash. Meanwhile, NISA promised to fix everything. Don't worry, they'll probably be able to fix in a few weeks what they couldn't fix in 1.5 years. Absolutely. Ha.
- Trails of Cold Steel I & II is now on PC through Steam and GOG with gameplay enhancements and newly voiced lines of dialogue.
- Ys Seven ported to PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store
- Ys: Memories of Celceta ported to PC by XSEED, coming this summer
- Zwei!! and Zwei II are finally released on PC by XSEED, available now on Steam/GOG/Humble Store
- Tokyo Xanadu released on PS4/PC with an improved translation, but there are a few issues like slangs, memes and random chtulhu lines.
- Also available on PC: the Trails in the Sky trilogy (now with Turbo mode), Xanadu Next, Ys: I & II Chronicles, Ys VI: The Ark of Napishtim, Ys: The Oath in Felghana and Ys Origin.
- Trails of Cold Steel 4: The End of Saga to release in the fall of 2018 in Japan.
- XSEED's E3 2018's line-up includes a "PC/PS4/PS4 Pro RPG".
>Fan-translations
>Trails from Zero at 60% (being edited by Geofront/Zerk)
>Trails to Azure at 92% (early editing by Guren)
>Everything else in the works seems to be MIA.
>Undubs
- Zwei: The Ilvard Insurrection
https://mega.nz/#!Bw5SURQK!fsrMwjX72trMpoXK3Vx6kKn7cgcj1h5sf5E1OSqgA0s
- Trails of Cold Steel: JP voices + Dummy files (Required to write over the newly recorded English dialogue)
https://mega.nz/#!WkUyhDbb!B8dXNO2aBwNHibQ7tjTCyQLrX-bbBUV2jkZVUYxJ0Q4
https://mega.nz/#!AoVmhDoL!h7fYCD14LQD14Ema9zWVvqHZegYJX2PF9EYWbn3x-DM
Magnet: magnet:?xt=urn:btih:6A260B5B9AA460EB5A71AA88A5B314583DF419D4
-Trails of Cold Steel 2: JP voices + Dummy Files (same as above)
https://mega.nz/#!ywdFnKSD!c9E15HA0bRqU-5kro8gmqcQeRBg8Priqjv3d7dX0W5U
https://mega.nz/#!x11giKyL!ucCRM3OkmGQGbpRdVGdYeg-svzJ7cgUEuFzT2TaQyD8
Mega of every undub: https://mega.nz/#F!k5ZjwTCD!A4Uyb67OpQQ_qCoB-zvx0g
Merge the JP voices and Dummy files into one folder and dump that folder into the voice folder.
>Falcom pastebin (download links for scans, Falcom Magazine volumes, soundtracks and more)
pastebin.com/G2mswYCt
07a8c3 No.14715125
>tfw never finished my TitS write-up
Ah well not a big deal
6e7793 No.14715207
>>14715125
Why don't you just copy-paste what you wrote here and continue?
07a8c3 No.14715223
>>14715207
>copy-pasting
I don't wanna spam the thread, it spanned multiple posts.
>continue
part of the problem is I sort of lost my train of thought and forgot what I was going to talk about. The NISA happenings took over and I was too involved in that and now I forgot what I was going to continue with.
Speaking of which…
>almost 2 weeks in and it hasn't even broken 40%
I think this one is unsalvageable for NISA.
I'm pretty smug about this, though sincerely sad that what appeared to be a great game had to die for it.
Hopefully those fucking fanslators get reamed into doing something, fucking retards
6e7793 No.14715232
>>14715223
Or you could just screencap.
To think I forgot that one could utilize images on an imageboard. What a time to be alive.
c37ab5 No.14715373
>Sharon will never tie you up and step on you one minute then lovingly serve you the next
Falcom have a mastery of making characters anyway, with some exceptions, but their girls are almost always top notch semen demons.
4b886d No.14715607
So I don't usually follow these threads but I really like pirating Ys games. I recall seeing that there was once a fan retranslation project for Ys 8 but that stopped when NISA said they were going to "fix" everything for the PC port. Is there any word on this project continuing now that the PC release was botched? What I'm basically asking is: Is there any chance I'll be able to play a decent PC version of Ys 8 with a translation that isn't fucked?
c37ab5 No.14715620
>>14715607
That same team announced they were stopping the fan translation because they felt NISA’s retry was “good enough”
4b886d No.14715629
>>14715620
Well fuck my ass. So how is the translation? I mean I've seen screenshots of embarrassing spelling/grammar mistakes as well as random, completely untranslated lines. Besides typographical errors, is there anything else egregiously wrong with it?
3d80ae No.14715645
>>14715629
Less machine translated but still shit. Lots of references to prior games in the series through item descriptions or flavor text are still lost
506958 No.14716508
>Nazi Randy
>Pirate Rixia
>Schoolgirl Duvalie
Akatsuki is so weird.
21fd65 No.14716541
>>14716508
I want to bully the schoolgirl.
d61481 No.14716555
>>14716508
>schoolgirl duvalie
c u t e
973244 No.14716563
Are any of these games any good?
d61481 No.14716566
>>14716563
no we just like them ironically
86908d No.14716580
I'd heard rumors of Lloyd's antics, but to think he would start harem protag-ing this early on. Truly a menace that must be stopped.
506958 No.14716604
>>14716541
>>14716555
Hopefully Rean will be able to bully her with his dick when she inevitably joins the hero team in CS4.
d93246 No.14716613
>>14716604
Those are some eyebrows.
07a8c3 No.14716622
>>14716563
Yes play them ASAP
d93246 No.14716636
>>14716563
Play it, enjoy it.
c37ab5 No.14716640
>>14716508
This reinforces how good SS uniforms look. I would like to sail Rixia's seven seas if you understand my meaning. My god they did an amazing job with schoolgirl Duvalie. I guess the plus side of Akatsuki being a gacha is that we get all these characters in cool new looks.
973244 No.14716710
>>14716622
>>14716636
None of them look good, and it seems like the only things people talk about in these threads are waifus and translation problems.
c37ab5 No.14716720
>>14716710
All you have to do is ask questions about the games, anon. We'll answer them.
bb93e3 No.14716721
>>14716710
>look good
Trails in the sky is almost a decade and a half old anon.
I agree about the character models in that game looking like potatoes, but its a masterpiece and you'd miss out on a wonderful experience not playing it.
>translation problems
wew, that's just because of all the happenings involving NISA in the last few months.
>waifus
I don't see much specifically about waifus in this thread. Its more just people ogling lewds that get posted from time to time. Waifus are more to be expected in the nep threads not that there's anything wrong with them at all; I just don't see it often here
I wrote a fairly large writeup on the game as well as recounting my progress and discussing what I liked and didn't like about the games as I went through them, so I'd say that at least counts as actual discussion of the games; were you not here for them?
bb93e3 No.14716727
>>14716721
well, not really "lewds". More just like pantyshots and upskirts whatnot
d93246 No.14716750
>>14716710
>Missing out on characters like Schera and Tita
I'll bitch beacuse it's Nisa and the game looks fine to me.
973244 No.14716769
>>14716721
>its a masterpiece and you'd miss out on a wonderful experience not playing it.
Everything I've seen of it looks like a very ordinary RPG with nothing special going for it.
>waifus
I see Duvalie posts all the time.
>were you not here for them?
I usually hide these threads.
bb93e3 No.14716779
>>14716769
>everything I've seen
Do you want to play the game or not?
Impressions and appearances don't matter.
>I see duvalie posts all the time
>I usually hide these threads
Hm.
So you only come to see the duvalie posts and then hide the threads?
I don't even know who that character is so I generally just ignore posts like that myself and stick to shit I do know. I've only played the TitS trilogy so far.
At this point I don't know what to tell you anon. The best way to truly know the quality of a video game is to play it. I would strongly recommend it, but if you don't want to that's fine and your prerogative. I just think you're missing out.
973244 No.14716796
>>14716779
>So you only come to see the duvalie posts and then hide the threads?
I see the most recent posts before I hide the thread. Those pictures of Duvalie show up all the time. In-depth discussions about the games do not.
>I just think you're missing out.
Sure, whatever. Enjoy your thing, don't let me force you to talk about it.
bb93e3 No.14716801
>>14716796
>I see the most recent posts before I hide the thread
So you don't bother to look in the thread?
>Enjoy your thing, don't let me force you to talk about it.
You sound bitter or salty for some reason. I don't know what's stopping you from playing the game and coming to your own conclusions rather than basing your entire impressions off of a very venerated company's set of games on the most recent posts in a thread you always hide anyways
973244 No.14716838
>>14716720
>All you have to do is ask questions
Does the gameplay ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
Does the story ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
What are the good parts that you'd put up with the rest of the game for?
86908d No.14716865
>>14716838
>Does the gameplay ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
If you don't like the gameplay in the beginning, it's not really gonna change enough to make you change your mind. It's serviceable but nothing revolutionary.
>Does the story ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
It does, but it's a real slow fucking burn. If you're not patient enough it most likely won't be worth it.
>What are the good parts that you'd put up with the rest of the game for?
The aforementioned story, with the constantly updating world and characters.
This is assuming you mean the Trails series. If you're talking about Ys it's a fast arcadey action RPG, and doesn't play nearly the same.
973244 No.14716889
>>14716865
>It does, but it's a real slow fucking burn. If you're not patient enough it most likely won't be worth it.
Understandable. I don't think I could really get into something like that without a strong start to hook me. Thanks for your time.
222c01 No.14717725
>>14716838
>Does the gameplay ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
Sky can get rather autistic with orbment usage towards the end but the gameplay is certainly good for having movement and positioning actually be useful, the effects that come up on the turn order chart mean you can't simply spam through shit, especially in later games.
Honestly considering how much there is to talk about your better off watching a few videos, my above rambling is useless, you probably won't get too spoiled.
>Does the story ever get interesting, or is it just something you have to get through?
In the sky games in generally just gets increasingly more intersting, albeit seems more simplistic, plotwise, although in retrospect they aren't, at the start. Cold Steel 1 has an abysmally cliched start, although the incident is over in >1hour
>What are the good parts that you'd put up with the rest of the game for?
Worldbuilding and continuity porn
>>14716889
It should be said that there's a turbo button in which both field and battles can be at 6x speed which works well and could speed you past the start, you can always ask the autists here if you feel you missed something.
>>14716710
In the very last thread there was talk of both ys and brandish, there's only so much people can discuss flash guards and ys version differences, that and a number of Falcom's other games aren't translated or at least translated in non-horrific manner, Gagharv when , that and while games like Gurumin and great, it hardly brings about discussion, now compare that to a now 9 game long game series where each has more characters and autism then most lone series', which is gonna get talked about more, especially when one considers that one series is currently being released while other games are often decades old and have been discussed to death
9fa19d No.14717745
i have a terrible habit, I was playing trails in the sky. Got many many many hours in. But i was playing with a guide to get the MAX BRACER RANK. That ruined it for me. Later on I was so worried about missing things it become unfun to play, having to keep checking the guide.
How can I not be so autistic.
771889 No.14717790
>>14717745
I use a guide because Japanese game devs are quite autistic when it comes to hidden events. It depends on how you use the guide if you ask me. I usually only retroactively read the guide after a segment, and decide if reloading and replaying is worth the hassle. I actually enjoyed most of the combat during SC, so doing max Bracer rank didn't feel too bad.
Also, you can't get rid of autism, you are stuck with it forever.
ef451d No.14717793
>>14717745
Just don't use the internet.
6e7793 No.14717796
>>14717745
I'm kind of the same way, except I don't use guides I just comb the world for anything I've missed before doing main quests.
During my playthrough of CS2 I missed a hidden AP bonus so now I'm sad for the rest of the game. But I need to learn to live with my mistakes.
And I will most likely play through it a second time and get everything, in preparation for when CS3 comes west.
be57e9 No.14717826
>>14717745
Attempt to play through once without a guide. If you like the game enough, play it a second time with.
07a8c3 No.14717847
>>14717745
Despite the fact that I was pissed about missing shit, this post makes me glad I avoided guides for the most part
f3641a No.14717860
I cleared the Ys II Time Attack and got a pretty wicked adrenaline rush the deeper in I got. I was shaking still when I finally beat Darm. It took me three attempts to clear; the first two times I died on Velagunder, and then my third attempt took me all the way to the finish, somehow. I expected to die on Gelaldy, since he's such an annoying fight. I've got no idea really how good 08:23:62 is, but I'm pretty happy with it being my first Time Attack clear; I didn't even attempt the Time Attack from Ys I. I want to go back and try it now though.
>>14716604
she's so adorable
771889 No.14717874
Just finished chapter 7 of TitS 3rd. Although phantasma was somewhat lame early on, I do really like the direction it took later on. Kevin's story is also more interesting and impactful than Joshua's story in my opinion. Tripple enforcer and Cassius were fun challenging battles, while Loewe was easy even on hard. It was probably due to the AI messing up he only summoned clones at the end. I was honestly surprised that Weissman showed up, even if it does make sense.
66cd27 No.14717888
Any tips on avoiding the bat/demon boss in the mines?
fac304 No.14717894
>>14717888
Pretty sure there was some strategy for it, but I already forgot. Might be worth looking at videos.
03d7a1 No.14717926
LOLIS
Honestly that is one thing that disappointed me in Sen. The lack of lolis.
be57e9 No.14717928
>>14717926
Renne's in Sen 3, isn't she? Also Tita
<but they're no longer lolis
03d7a1 No.14717931
>>14717790
I'm extremely thorough (and autistic) but without a guide even I will miss stuff.
c37ab5 No.14717935
>>14717926
You have the hyper loli and best daughteru in the Sen games, though.
>>14717928
I think Renne is only coming back for End of Saga. She wasn’t in Sen 3. Tita was, though, and judging by the screens posted she’s still adorable.
377ccc No.14717988
Ended up saying fuck it and got Tokyo Xanadu ex+ because I doubt any fan translations will be coming out in less than a decade given its a falcom game
How frequent is the shitty reddit memes? I can probably ignore a lot but if they're enough to start ruining the writing it will be tough
c37ab5 No.14718003
>>14717988
The game starts out well enough, but I think by the second or third chapter, you’ll start to see instances of the characters using “hella” and “fukkleducks”. I honestly didn’t drop the game because of the word choices Aksys decided to use. I dropped it because it was really bland. Like, it has the Zwei style of combat but not the charm combined with a lesser Trails story. I played on Hard and it was like playing on easy with how telegraphed the bosses were. The dungeons aren’t special and you’ll be going through these same bland dungeons a few times in order to get materials to upgrade your gear.
In short, the game has more problems than Aksys’ “spice” in my opinion.
c37ab5 No.14718031
>>14718003
I want to also say that TX doesn’t really do anything that Falcom’s other games haven’t already done, but better. It’s not a bad game, just really “meh”.
077343 No.14718281
>almost 2 weeks
>Falcom still has shilled the Ys VIII PC port on their twitter
>They shilled the Xbone release of Ys Origin twice in a smaller time frame
bb93e3 No.14718802
>>14717874
Good shit bro
>Kevin's story is also more interesting and impactful than Joshua's story in my opinion.
agreed completely
>Although phantasma was somewhat lame early on, I do really like the direction it took later on
Meh. It was okay. I just viewed it as more of a plot device that allowed for cool and interesting shit to happen; it eventually got explained as something decent but I'm still feeling pretty "meh" on it as a whole. I liked what was done with it though so I can't complain too much.
af4870 No.14718836
>>14717988
I might get the game used or on a sale. I can accept low budget translation but putting in memes is shitty.
371b78 No.14719004
>>14717926
Altina is one of best lolis in the series though…
777ad7 No.14720407
67ad07 No.14720419
>>14720407
>no source
>check the NISA site
>no announcements any time recently
>NISA twitter
>nothing
>Falcom twitter
>nothing for 3 days
Gonna need some proofs
0efae4 No.14721036
>>14716750
I just now noticed that Tita has been wearing pantyhose the whole time. I played the first game over 3 years ago. I'm worried I'm missing other things now, send help.
771889 No.14721812
>>14721036
The Jenis Academy female uniforms are actually one piece short dresses.
>>14720419
Maybe he is an intern at WikiLeaks :^)
371b78 No.14721971
>>14721812
I'm not sure about that…
ada11c No.14723023
371b78 No.14724190
>>14723023
>TFW NISA won't be at E3
>TFW XSeed will be revealing a PS4 rpg there
I can feel it, lads.
6e7793 No.14724213
>>14724190
I want to lick her tummy.
371b78 No.14724251
>>14724240
>The first image twice
Script Simian…
c37ab5 No.14725118
>>14724190
>mfw it’s just Cold Steel 1 Kai
d61481 No.14725276
>>14725118
It's a "PS4/PC RPG" and I don't know why they'd announce a game for PC when it's already on PC.
3e826d No.14725301
>>14716563
No. But we are too far out on our sunk cost to dislike them.
17594a No.14725453
>>14725276
>I don't know why they'd announce a game for PC when it's already on PC.
Same reason a "remaster" of Dark Souls just came out for PC (or is about to come out, I'm not paying attention). Some suckers would buy it again.
Well, I don't know what it is they're showing off so I'm just going to wait. Getting my hopes up is stupid at this point because having hope always leads to disappointment in this industry.
374877 No.14727459
>>14717926
Aren't they literally full of lolis? What the fuck are you smoking?
4912c0 No.14727502
>>14724240
Fuck off back to cuckchan
07a8c3 No.14727553
>>14727502
unix filenames exist here you know
fac304 No.14728320
>>14727399
They can't catch a break.
f28d75 No.14728325
>>14727399
Seems like the demo is taken down.
e74d2d No.14728430
>>14727399
Absolute lolcow tier.
c37ab5 No.14728509
>>14727399
People are reporting it was an extended demo. How true that is, I don't know.
4912c0 No.14728553
>>14727553
Not that length, retard.
be57e9 No.14729721
>>14727229
Big-titty, short, glasses-wearing, motherly-type with long hair.
be8e33 No.14730185
>>14727399
AHAHAAHAHHAAHHAHAHAHAAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHAH
http://archive.is/2SZkQ
65dbe4 No.14730222
>>14730160
man I can't wait to play ToCS. I think I'll finally hunker down and get back to TitS SC today.
e74d2d No.14730412
>>14730185
What is this sense of satisfaction I feel. When NISA even fucks up the release of their big money making franchise.
5efc0c No.14730420
>>14730260
I see no CP here. If you do, I'm afraid that you are the problem…
65dbe4 No.14730467
>>14730412
because they' can't stop fucking shit up.
I hope it winds up with NISA being "restructured" and all those assholes in there who had anything to do with all the technical fuck-ups, shit translations, and censorships never find work in the vidya industry again. NIS needs to purge their entire North American branch.
317e43 No.14731332
>>14725453
You have to be a special retard to think that would ever happen, Kai is just the PS3 game running at 60 fps at 4k on PS4 with turbo mode, it's literally the same shit the PC port already has.
af4553 No.14731351
>>14730185
>revoked
so does that mean valve kicked them off? is NISA bricking peoples computers again?
65dbe4 No.14731368
>>14731351
nah, you just can't play the game anymore in your steam library.
79b752 No.14731684
Get ready to smug;
http://archive.is/LsuXe
Falcom just fucking advertised the Celceta PC port when it still has no definite release date; Meanwhile they still haven't said a thing about Ys VIII's PC port.
e9244a No.14731708
>>14731684
Normally I would say not to get excited but this is downright blatant. I think we might've seen one of NISA's final nails in the coffin; here's hoping they fade deeper and deeper into irrelevance.
a25db7 No.14731741
>>14731708
Usually a company adapts and starts upping their quality, it's been nothig but fuck up after fuck up though.
777ad7 No.14731779
>>14731684
I wish they would make a new brandish.
317e43 No.14731784
>>14731684
They actually promoted Ys 8 PC on twitter 5 days before it got released.
be57e9 No.14731816
>>14731784
Yes, but haven't since it released.
They usually promote English releases after they released. Sometimes RTing reviews and such. They've been completely ignoring PC Ys VIII.
317e43 No.14731820
>>14731816
I just wish they could just given Ys 8 PC to XSEED.
c8964b No.14731827
>>14731784
oh shit they did
>>14731816
summarizes my thoughts on this
>>14731820
I would've been fine if literally anyone else had gotten this to be honest, at least fan-translators would've been able to try and fix it if it was bad but this was a downright shitty port combined with an awful localization, what the fuck
79b752 No.14731848
>>14731779
After how Tokyo Xanadu turned out, I'm worried how they would do a new Brandish. I rather them just do Dark Revenant styled remakes of the pre-existing games.
>>14731784
They always promote a game prior to it's release, and they promote it again on the release date. Ys VIII PC has been the only game they haven't promoted on the release date or afterwards
>>14731820
NISA would have to agree to relinquish the publishing rights. Which they would never do since their host company is making the switch port (which just got confirmed for being only 30fps max wew)
317e43 No.14731864
I just realised that the Steam reviews of Ys 8 have gone from 23% positive to 37% positive.
c8964b No.14731890
>>14731864
they did release 3 patches didn't they?
Either way its been over 2 weeks and they'll likely be fucked for a while, the damage has already been done.
At this point sending an email to Falcom would probably do more damage than worrying about reviews at this point, since people aren't as autistic about realizing what NISA has fucked up outside of this place, and will probably forgive them if they fix as much as they can
b0af31 No.14732484
>As for hate directed at NISA… I genuinely feel awful for them, but I certainly do not feel angry at them
<I want to cheer for NISA and aplaud them for having a much stronger community presence than any other publisher doing these ports.
Great. that faggot Kaldaien is now in the steam threads, like the cuck he is, he's gonna suck nisa's dick now.
371b78 No.14732938
>>14732484
>having a much stronger community presence than any other publisher doing these ports.
BULL. FUCKING. SHIT.
771889 No.14733117
>>14732484
Being clumsy beyond belief can definitely be felt like a strong presence.
fe1989 No.14733122
>>14732484
>Kaldaien
Didn't that faggot "Quit" steam and modding a year back? can't be surprised at soyboy autism.
b1425b No.14733430
>>14730185
As expected of NISA, they sure do like showing everyone their incompetence
4912c0 No.14733591
>>14732484
>NISA patches their games more than any developer
be57e9 No.14733606
>>14731784
>best suited for the nintendo switch
What the fuck?
b0af31 No.14733716
>>14733591
Im gonna translate some stuff here.
>old means old and please use windows store API's to reduce problems!
<please remove win7/8.1 support because Final Fantasy 15 didn't do it and is the reason why it runs so shit and i don't want to make more code for my shitty DRM tool!
>Take early reviews with a grain of salt because it's a pricing issue!
<Fucking xseeders, i want muh dual audio in my switch version! also don't worry if nisa doesn't fix the issue's on PC, i will do it and punish those filthy pirate for using my tool on pirated copy's!
>I am leaving a positive review because i have faith in nisa.
<im simply ignoring the fact that this game came out a half year late and still has translation error's and randomly crashes on people's PC's, i mean who cares! we finaly have dual audio xD!
the only thing i agree with him is that this piece of shit uses 32bit for no reason other than the porting company being incompetent just like nisa themselves.
Kaldaien is also the reason i hate steam these days, it's full retarded people that defend just about anything that is anti consumer.
0d2b7a No.14733722
>>14733591
Holy fuck it's the denuvo shill
>NISA patches their games more than any developer
Not even close, that prize will always go to Orange_Juice and Fruitbat Factory
>Best suited for the Nintendo Switch
You mean the version that struggles to remain locked at 30fps?
60fe83 No.14733936
>>14733722
Switch 30fps isn't on Nisa though, its a tablet.
60fe83 No.14733944
>>14733716
>defend just about anything that is anti consumer
Like no dual audio?
4912c0 No.14733950
>>14733944
Localizations in general are anti-consumer. Get the original version.
0d2b7a No.14733953
>>14733936
>Switch 30fps isn't on Nisa though, its a tablet.
Yes, a game that can't run properly on the systems cannot be "Best suited for the Nintendo Switch"
aaf34e No.14733955
The sad part is that NISA will never die.
f7e1cc No.14733978
>>14733955
Considering there's a load of retards hyped for SNK heroines outside and inside this board you're pretty on point.
0d2b7a No.14734005
>>14733978
>Considering there's a load of retards hyped for SNK heroines outside and inside this board you're pretty on point.
90% of the people in the fighting game thread are just waiting for the eventual NISA-free PC port and some are going out of the way just to import it since the jap version will have english text/SNK does the translation themselves.
371b78 No.14734507
>>14734131
Goddamn Sharon was hiding a killer body under that dress.
be57e9 No.14734575
>>14734507
Now she can compete with Sara, Vita, Aurelia and Emma
c37ab5 No.14735317
Switch version of Ys 8 to be locked at 30fps both on and off the dock.
371b78 No.14735528
>>14735317
It keeps happening.
be57e9 No.14735571
I went looking up some articles and comments, and one comment was that the game doesn't require frame-perfect inputs, so it was fine at 30fps.
Aren't flash guards/flash moves frame perfect inputs?
2b54f5 No.14735598
>>14733950
Isn't the jap pc port of YS 8 also fucked though? What should one do in this situation
abb3e4 No.14735616
>>14734507
>>14734575
I actually don't find Sharon's to be as good as the other voluptuous characters. I kind of think she looked sexier in the dress.
371b78 No.14735960
>>14735616
To each his own, but her figure is like an arrow straight to my dick for me.
bb93e3 No.14735986
HookTube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14733936
but it runs on the Vita well enough doesn't it, and say what you want about the Switch, its at least notably more powerful than that even though I love my Vita
I think this is another example of them fucking things up further
777ad7 No.14739040
>>14736903
Agate is a child grooming predator.
ec83e5 No.14739057
>>14736903
Only a matter of time.
e702c5 No.14739079
How it is humanly possible to repeatedly fuck up as hard as NISA does and stay afloat?
Anyway, sexy Sharon is fine. But
>maids>sexy assassins
17d03c No.14739118
>>14735598
>Isn't the jap pc port of YS 8 also fucked though?
The Jap PC port is the NISA port. NISA handled the PC port as a whole
2b54f5 No.14739156
>>14739118
Guess I'm not playing it anytime soon then. Oh well, still need to play seven and celceta
b96e91 No.14739204
>>14733591
I'm convinced that faggot sucks corporate cock as some form of ruse. I can't fathom a human being can fit the dicks of the entire industry into his mouth and do it so proudly.
771889 No.14739216
>>14739040
Honestly, it is everyone else but Agate who is child grooming. Agate just wants to protect Tita who runs head first into trouble.
6e7793 No.14739225
>>14739040
Erika go an tinker on some robots, you're drunk.
c8964b No.14739259
>>14739040
>yfw Erika puts the entire central factory to work shilling against Agate
poor bastard
fac304 No.14739400
Two games later I finally realized who voiced Claire.
Is nowhere safe from the endless reminder?
371b78 No.14739491
>>14739400
Well…only for CS1 and CS2…
c37ab5 No.14740087
>>14739491
Why is she so perfect? what if Falcom have been setting her and Rean up since the start and no one noticed
fac304 No.14740191
>>14739491
Who voices her later?
371b78 No.14740245
>>14740087
Claire isn't even the only older women to make a move that same night. Sara does as well.
>>14740191
Ami Koshimizu. She has a ton of work history. Kallen in Code Geass, Ryuko on Kill la Kill, Yukiko in Persona to name just a few. Just look her up there's a ton more. She is also Musse in CS3 as well.
fac304 No.14740452
>>14740245
Oh yeah, I know of her. I like her, but damn, that's a completely different voice. MM was too characteristic to be easily replaced, but they didn't even try to get a similar one huh.
bd4aa4 No.14741695
Part of Cold Steel's problem may be having too many characters from the get go, causing none of them to get the full development and time they deserve. Honestly, going by plot relevance, you could easily cut Elliot, Laura, and Fie from Class VII and have little effect.
Fie's Jaeger angle can be done by Sara, there's nothing Laura adds to the Class that couldn't be/isn't done by Jusis and Rean, and Elliot's always just been kind of there. Emma's already there to test orbal staffs, so he doesn't even just have the excuse of introducing a new weapon.
Speaking of Emma, you could probably write her out too. Yeah she's a witch and role should have plot relevance, but it literally has no bearing on the plot before or after she reveals it.
I like Cold Steel well enough, but it has a very flawed story that I hope upswings in 3.
371b78 No.14741850
>>14741695
You're partially right, but Fie is way more relevant than Machias, who only serves as a crude example of the class conflict and loses all relevance after chapter 2 of CS1. Fie, by comparison, has direct ties to several major players in CS2 and CS3 while Elliot and Machias are basically reduced to being thrown in as leftovers in the big rival matchups at the climax of CS3. Laura flirts with becoming relevant several times but can't seem to quite do it, though she at least kind of has some connections to a large player on the villain team. Gaius was completely irrelevant…until he wasn't when he shows up in CS3.
You're right about the size, though. This is part of the reason NuC7 works so well. It's a much smaller group so they all have time to shine. I thought I was going to hate Thors II with a fiery passion for retreading old ground, but I ended up loving the whole school and Leeves way more than I did in the first two games.
abb3e4 No.14741895
>>14740452
She does a pretty good job, though and I think her voice suits the character well.
>>14741850
It's almost like thors2 was what they wanted to originally accomplish with the original. (more militaristic and generally more focused). I really ended up liking all of nu7 as well, even that shithead ash.
bd4aa4 No.14741942
>>14741850
>Fie is way more relevant than Machias, who only serves as a crude example of the class conflict and loses all relevance after chapter 2 of CS1.
At least he does serve the purpose of that example, but I agree that he's such an egregious asshole it comes off as heavy handed and makes the nobility look better. Which would've really been an interesting angle to the whole conflict by the time the Civil War came, but no, the Noble Alliance are just bad guys.
>Fie, by comparison, has direct ties to several major players in CS2 and CS3
I can't say anything about 3, but in 2 her connection to them does nothing for the story. It's just kind of a "Oh hey guys." "Hey Fie, sorry but we gotta fight ya." "And also kill that black haired heartbreaker over there. "Sorry guys, this is muh new fam." Like Laura being from Legram, it doesn't really do much. At least Machias represented a side in a conflict and his status as Governor Regnitz's son moved the plot(that one time before he gained Clark Kent's mastery of disguise).
>Gaius was completely irrelevant…until he wasn't when he shows up in CS3
Gaius is… part of the problem with Cold Steel's writing, where I feel more effort was put toward hinting at things and setting Chekhov's Guns to be fired later rather than actually doing something with itself. Hell, the climax of CS2(the Vermillion Apocalypse) never really felt like a resolution, but a set up for something else to me. Emma was definetly this, and Gaius FEELS like he's this, but I don't know for what. I get the feeling he's a Gralsritter, but if so, he's poorly handled, compared to Kevin.
Admittedly, Gaius never had much going on openly outside of Nord… which fits. Gaius wants to protect his homeland. From his education, he felt that Erebonia and Nord were inextricably tied, and that any conflict of Erebonia's would bleed into Nord. So he enrolled at Thors to learn about Erebonia, to observe it, and try to find out what problems may come to Nord's door and mitigate/prepare for them. He also wants to give himself a connection to the Empire so he feels like it's worth fighting for. Sadly, Falcom translated this to him simply staying in the back and observing which, while fitting, isn't interesting to the player. He's not even a big brother stable "rock" type, he's just sort of there, until Nord comes up, when he's REALLY there. Because that's all he really cares about. Even if it was done poorly, it's still SOMETHING.
Really, it feels like CS I and II were written so they could set things up for CS3 and 4. Tell me, people who know spoilers, does it feel like the series could've started at III and lost nothing?
371b78 No.14741993
>>14741942
>Really, it feels like CS I and II were written so they could set things up for CS3 and 4. Tell me, people who know spoilers, does it feel like the series could've started at III and lost nothing?
Let me rewrite this to show you my opinion on the matter:
<Really, it feels like Trails in the Sky FC was written so they could set things up for SC. Tell me, people who know spoilers, does it feel like the series could've started at SC and lost nothing?
In short: no. The stuff in CS3 works because you have that bedrock. Just like with SC, it's far more interesting and emotionally powerful game…but it only has that power because of the foundation built by the yeoman work of the set up game, or games in this instance. Make no mistake, CS1 and CS2 are basically the first game in an arc. They are FC, basically, just stretched out more. CS3, while featuring new characters in leading roles, still relies heavily on the already established characters and story events to work.
So no…it wouldn't work to start the story there. For better or worse, this is the way Trails tells stories.
For what it's worth I actually think every OG C7 member has something interesting to do in CS4 coming up due to the way things have shaken out, at least to the point where I'm glad they are in the plot. Even Elliot and Machias are going to have a bit of conflict, which they've completely lacked since CS1. So honestly I do think things will end up working out, but like always Trails is playing the long game. The really long game in this case.
bd4aa4 No.14742105
>>14741993
>Really, it feels like Trails in the Sky FC was written so they could set things up for SC.
What the fuck? No it's not. While yes, there's a lot of stuff set up that paid off in SC, FC set up and accomplished its own story in a way that felt much more whole. Each character had their own thing that was going that wasn't hidden for reasons that felt like "so we can set this thing up later". Like Kloe being Klaudia, Olivier being Olivert, these identity reveals don't feel like Emma being a witch where "until my reveal, I'll just do and be nothing". FC's questions and mysteries were set up far more naturally than Cold Steel I and II.
I'm rambling, but what I'm trying to say is that FC was a strong product on its own, and didn't need SC to redeem it, like I feel CS I and II need. SC is most certainly enhanced by playing FC. I asked because from what little I know of 3, it seems almost as if it could serve as an entry point, where SC doesn't.
Before you
>seems like an entry point
>has 3 in the title
I consider this different because 3 is not only the first game on a new console, but stars a new Class VII in a new school as well, so you have an easy way to explain shit to newcomers.
c8964b No.14742138
>>14742105
>FC set up and accomplished its own story in a way that felt much more whole
like the huge cliffhangers it just threw at the end and all the mysteries that it was establishing as you reached the climax of FC's story?
I'm failing to see what even would be wrong with FC being written so they could set things up for SC, its literally just the second chapter of the story in my eyes.
>SC is most certainly enhanced by playing FC
I'd argue its flat-out necessary before playing, or else you end up with shitheads like the ones you see at venturebeat playing these games who have no idea what's going on, who anyone is, what the stories for the world are, and just… everything.
> but what I'm trying to say is that FC was a strong product on its own, and didn't need SC to redeem it
FC was fine in my eyes but it flat-out needed SC because its a direct continuation of the story because of the aforementioned cliffhangers, mysteries and incomplete character storylines. Sure FC had an "ending" to the main conflict going on, but its abundantly clear that the entire main conflict was pretty much just a facet/part of the true conflict that was shown in SC and revealed piecemeal and through mystery in FC and there is even more shit I don't even know about involving ouroboros and the anguis and whatnot that never got answered even after finishing the TitS trilogy
I might be confusing your points however and I'm just entering this conversation half-blind as I have yet to play the cold steel games and am hiding posts rampantly to avoid spoilers
771889 No.14742163
I believe that CS3 shows exactly what Falcom had in mind with the school setting, but were probably too tempted to create a huge class in CS1. They could have done like in FC, where characters are connected to a certain location. Reduce the size of the class to 6, and have a total of 3 party members at the start of the field studies. Have the final party member(s) show up during the field study. The temporary party members return during the final chapter (school festival) and can be used during the final dungeon.
This would probably work better because you don't end up with Gaius who is just a Nord, who likes Nord. He could have been a guide during the Nord field study instead. He could even have become a squire under Barkhorn, without the player knowing it, which could easily be explained during CS3.
bd4aa4 No.14742206
>>14742138
>I have yet to play the cold steel games
You REALLY need to do that in order to get my point.
c8964b No.14742215
371b78 No.14742281
>>14742105
You do know that FC and SC where originally a single game that eventually got split in development, right? So, yes…there is very much precedent for saying FC isn't as effective without SC. If I only played FC I would be vastly unsatisfied. Even setting aside the blatant cliffhanger, most of the cast are unexplored in FC and don't get much interesting meat added to their characters until SC. Schera is just a big sister mentor, Olivier is… something to do with Erebonia, but we don't know what other than he's hiding something, Kloe is one of the few who gets a little development in FC, but even she gets more later, Agate's past is completely relegated to the second game as is Zin's. FC is all about future payoffs. So no, I don't think FC stands on its own very well at all. You can argue that you think it's a better setup game, which is fine. I'd even agree. But that doesn't change the fact that I still think it's an extremely incomplete experience without it's second half.
6e7793 No.14742508
>>14741695
>Speaking of Emma, you could probably write her out too
Or you throw in a Kevin and watch the fireworks.
317e43 No.14742836
FC stands on its own two feet without the need of SC, it has its own self-contained story and it's a great example of worldbuilding and good writing. The ending is just there to hook people to the next game, if you get rid of it, it would still be its own thing. Even the 3rd does that. The only Trails game that won't do that will be the last one.
bd4aa4 No.14744204
>>14742281
>>14742836
Is basically what I've been trying to say.
371b78 No.14744404
>>14742836
>>14744204
And I still disagree. That post doesn't address anything I brought up in regards to how much is left to the second game. Calling the story self contained is a pretty big stretch as many of the elements that made the story possible, such as how every chapter involves brainwashed people doing most of the crimes, is only explained by the sequel hook. The majority of the supporting cast is given no depth or backstory since it's, again, saved for the next game. Joshua's past, a mystery set up from the very first cutscene of FC, is itself a sequel hook. It's true you resolve a plotpoint, but the confrontation with the main villain instantly raises another in it's place even before you put down the final boss.
There's way too many outstanding mysteries about the world and characters to call FC a satisfying stand alone story. And that's not even counting the cliffhanger, which, let's face it, should be counted because it pretty much confirms what my point is: FC was never meant to stand on it's own. You were always supposed to play both games because they were envisioned as one in the first place. The same is true for CS, just on a much, much wider scale.
I'm not saying CS couldn't have been pruned a bit. It's pretty obvious the first two games have some unnecessary bloat, especially in CS2. However I'm not comfortable calling entire characters moribund until I see the end of the story. Like I said, all of OG Class 7 have potentially interesting hooks in the finale and I won't write any of them off until the story is over and I see whether they delivered on them or not.
You asked the opinion of anons who have played CS3 if we think CS1 and CS2 are necessary. I maintain it is, for the same reason that FC is necessary to enjoy SC to it's fullest. You simply won't be affected the same way otherwise
9872a8 No.14744898
d61481 No.14748282
371b78 No.14749200
>>14748282
At this point who the fuck knows.
70b6c6 No.14749246
>>14748282
We knew this would happen when he said that it was maybe a week.
fac304 No.14749625
I still like to imagine XSEED making a surprise annoncement that they actually have been working on Ao and Zero all this time and are releasing both as a bundle.
What can I say.
317e43 No.14749776
>>14749625
It would be awkard to announce Sen 3 but no Zero/Azure.
620f95 No.14750040
> sell 10 hunts to him for 500 ore
> sure
> wants me to sell him 50 hunks for 2500
somehow this doesn't seem to be nearly as worth it, even though it's the same price per hunk of ore. IS it worth doing? Is there some sort of special prize or something by selling this faggot all my ore later one? Or is this just to make some extra money on the side?
2a3406 No.14750163
>>14750040
If you do it enough, you get something which you can trade for an item somehow.
c8964b No.14750227
>>14750040
goddamn that's one ugly motherfucker
620f95 No.14750231
>>14750163
oh so there IS more to it than just getting money for the ore then. That's good to know; I'll keep rolling with it then.
f9cd6b No.14750625
any fan fixes for Ys VIII
Anything
please
4a486b No.14751713
>>14749776
Sadly, anon, no it wouldn't. While I think CS3 will resonate more with players who have gone through the Crossbell story, the game does feature enough flashbacks and explanations that someone who hasn't played them can still follow the plot just fine. It's the little emotional things you won't get, like seeing Officer Kate in an Erebonian millitary uniform instead of her police outfit (does that count as national NTR?).
So I fully expect XSeed to release CS3 first and leave Crossbell for never ever since CS3 is guaranteed to be a more profitable product.
317e43 No.14753324
>>14751713
That's not the point. The fans don't want to skip titles in this franchise, so it's going to be quite conflicting.
75badc No.14753452
>>14748282
This.
>Ao when
KeA isn't getting any younger.
371b78 No.14753579
>>14753324
Again, anon, they already skipped it once when they went to CS. They did it for the same reason too, because adding in consolefags gives an extremely significant boost to sales, if not outright selling better than the PC version, despite how much better the PC version is. From a business standpoint, they're going to do CS3 first. There's plenty of people who already started with CS to begin with. I'm not saying I don't want an official Crossbell translation, anon. I'm just trying to get you to realize that not only is it possible XSeed will release CS3 and 4 without doing one, it's likely.
4a815a No.14753762
>>14749200
Estelle could have taken dick from Olivier and Agate, or even Richard, and she chose josh instead. Why/
c37ab5 No.14753992
>>14753762
You have serious issues if you think Estelle should have gotten with anyone else instead of Joshua, anon. Just to entertain you, however, Olivert is a fop. Richard is married to the job(s). Agate doesn't want to fuck.
4a815a No.14754051
>>14753992
Joshua is an edgy faggot who abandoned her and considered doing it again.
67ad07 No.14754112
>>14753762
>>14754051
>Olivier with Estelle
wew
Anyways while I was disappointed with Joshua's writing he was literally the most perfect pairing for Estelle and also the only one really even near her age
c37ab5 No.14754174
>>14754051
Joshua left because he feared what might happen to Estelle after Weissman came into the picture. He loved her so much he felt as though he needed to leave and leave the way he did to protect her. He's retarded for not understanding just how stubborn Estelle is when she wants answers. Especially if it's dealing with someone she loves.
75badc No.14754239
>>14753579
Looking at the sales numbers for Trails the third localising the Crossbell games wouldn't be commercially worth it. Xseed has bills to pay.
f59ea6 No.14754683
>>14754239
The only way I am seeing the crossbell games getting an official western release anytime soon is if they buy the fan-translation.
be57e9 No.14755187
I wouldn't mind if they don't release the crossbell games. I'll be playing the fan translation anyway, whether before or after CS3.
Already finished Zero, pretty much.
Also I noticed today that on may 4th, Falcom linked to Aksys' store for Tokyo Xanadu eX+, while still no promotion for Ys VIII's PC release.
4fd0df No.14755218
>>14754632
I fucking hate reddit.
950444 No.14755863
>>14755218
>0 points
That means negative, anon. Even the plebbitors are laughing at him.
67ad07 No.14755922
>>14755863
it doesn't matter because what that anon said works in general
f511a1 No.14757602
Okay, fuck THIS nigger in particular
8b824f No.14757768
I just realized an actual retard. I remembered AFTER killing Gildias that Boost Mode exists; I haven't been using it at all this entire fucking time. SO many times Gildias killed me, he had just 30~60/3000 HP left. Why can't I stop making my own life more difficult than it needs to be?
67ad07 No.14758117
So I was relistening to some trails OSTs and I was reading the comments of this mp4 related's and found this.
Now I can't not imagine her in some 80s high-waisted leotard get-up (maybe with leg warmers maybe not) with the legs she had in SC's character art that I remember looking better in-game for some reason
FUCK
be57e9 No.14758142
>>14758117
It's okay to lewd Josette
67ad07 No.14758208
damn apparently more people had problems with the fishing mini game than I thought. I loved it personally, and also beat all of those fukken scrubs on the first try, except maybe the first guy one time; I can't remember
it felt good, plus the music was great
>>14758142
Hells yeah it is
fac304 No.14758426
>>14757768
Haha dude, what the hell.
371b78 No.14758780
>>14758208
I'll admit, I had trouble with the fishing too and the longer I went on the worse I got. Even with a guide telling me how the process worked I'd still sometimes just fuck up the basic timing. That game just was pure kryptonite to me for some reason. Meanwhile I beat poker first try.
f69e7f No.14759011
Since there was a sale on japanese games, I've grabbed both Cold Steel I and II on PS3. Do we have a release date for the third one?
67ad07 No.14759014
>>14759011
those better have been physical copies fag
f69e7f No.14759061
>>14759014
Not really. I was searching for a new jrpg to play while browsing a digital store and I heard only good things about this game. Loving it so far. I have only 10 hours clocked in but I kinda want to play more games from the series.
Also I presume battles will be harder?
771889 No.14759066
>>14759011
No. Expect 1 year minimum, 2 years most likely, and up to 3 years if we are unlucky.
6e7793 No.14759067
>>14759011
The third one is already out (in nip), english version soon™, possibly revealed at E3.
67ad07 No.14759083
>>14759061
>not really
just be careful fag, PSN users can get fucked at any time, and its better to not give more money and control to Sony when you can avoid it
https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/02/sony-bans-ps4-gamer-user-id-2012-now-deem-offensive/52286/
>Also I presume battles will be harder?
I didn't get to cold steel yet, but I've heard in these thteads the difficulty settings are fucked in CS 1 and 2, as in its too easy even on the hard and nightmare difficulties.
be57e9 No.14759140
>>14759061
It's easier than Sky but somewhat tough on hard/nightmare. Still not as tough as Sky's hardest difficulties, however.
There are ways to make certain characters immensely by equipping certain quartz and master quartz to them.
f69e7f No.14759142
>>14759083
>https://www.oneangrygamer.net/2018/02/sony-bans-ps4-gamer-user-id-2012-now-deem-offensive/52286/
Jesus, Sony won't hesitate to ban anyone for an "offensive" PSN ID and at the same time they won't allow to change it. Fair enough. Thankfully a local e-shop seems to have a copy. I thought they are harder to get.
>>14759066
>>14759067
>Expect 1 year minimum, 2 years most likely, and up to 3 years if we are unlucky.
Oh well, let's some it's not gonna be 3 years then.
be57e9 No.14759151
>>14759140
>Immensely
Immensely powerful*
Fuck.
f59ea6 No.14760209
>>14759066
If it follows the same pattern as 1 and 2 we should get it around the end of 2019 with it taking just over 2 years after it is released in Japan to bring it over.
317e43 No.14760526
>>14759011
>Getting the PS3 versions instead of the PC/PS4 ports
Someone deserves to be bullied
3b1c89 No.14760703
be57e9 No.14763762
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Spoilers for CS3 and CS4, probably.
771889 No.14763799
>>14763762
Randy, Agate, and Gaius. Now that is a combination which could kick some serious ass
c1737c No.14764842
I know that the Ys VIII PC port is even WORSE than it was before, but did NISA even patch the issues the PS4 version had at least? Or at LEAST halfway fix the translation? I've been hearing Ys VIII one of the better Ys games to date.I'd be getting this USED for my PS4 of course, not giving NISA my money.
371b78 No.14765578
Translation of the Dengeki article.
Major CS3 endgame spoilers, obviously
https://pastebin.com/cMs0n2mQ
c37ab5 No.14765962
>>14764842
This was found in the PC version of Ys VIII. Considering they share the same script, I wouldn't be surprised if it turned out this and other untranslated lines of dialogue show up in the PS4 version.
c1737c No.14766178
>>14765962
that's a pretty reasonable assumption. God damn it NISA.
374877 No.14766194
>>14765962
It seems not to be an untranslated line, but that the Japanese line was left directly under the English line.
さっぱりなんだけど
Roughly means "I have no idea though."
I assume "Ugh… But I have no idea what you're talking about" or something like that is how NISA translated it. They had to go and give that kid an attitude problem when he didn't have one before.
We can probably safely assume that when they translated it, the translators entered the translated lines directly above the originals in a file somewhere, and that when reinserting the English script into the game, they somehow left the Japanese line in there too by mistake. Which would seem to imply they have somebody manually adding and deleting those lines instead of automatically doing it with a program.
c1737c No.14766210
>>14766194
> they translated the line japanese text and put it ABOVE the original text instead of just replacing it with the english text completely
> manually adding and deleting the lines
HOLY SHIT how much more incompetent can they get?
c60ce1 No.14768317
>>14765962
Played the PS4 version and no I don't remember that (Japanese voice if it matters). I only recall one big fuck up: a side quest description that pointed me in the wrong direction: had to guide dang it.
c37ab5 No.14771016
Remember to love your daughterus
896908 No.14771594
>>14759140
I just finished cold steel 2, and I found some pretty massive cheese builds. For example, I had Machias run silver bell + that one master quartz with 12ep regen per turn/ 75% spell dodge/ silver bell effect + cast time quartz. Having him use chrono-burst -> burst drive -> analyze would let him make the whole team move when he did, and he would have the movement delay of a double silver belled analyze (which was 4 units for me 1 to cast 3 delay). Tauros on Rean worked really well with spirit unification, and he could pretty easily pump out 60k damage a turn. I set fie up with 100% evasion, counters are always crits quartz, and had her use the chevalier master quartz(increased phys damage on low life and enemies target you more frequently). Lowering her life to 10% (with peculiar tomato soup I think) and putting her up front was pretty great. She had the ability to counter over a really large range, her counter did about 10k damage, it allowed a linked attack, and it built some easy cp for her and whoever she linked with. Also, I made Gaius wear the master quartz that heals 20%hp/2%mp of the damage you deal, and then equipped all the mp cuts and increased strength quartz I had. He could sustain an infinite chain of chrono-burst to wild rage x 2 to s-craft even on a single target eventually. The characters not in class seven seem even more easy to break: that 50% cast time reduction on Toval is pretty crazy, princess Alfin's buff looked pretty strong, and Sharon's tea time is just asking to be paired up with Alisa's blessed arrow for infinite cp generation.
For how brokenly strong the characters can get, it really annoys me that there is so much scripted weakness. Going from a battle where Gaius stops time and spams 50 s-crafts on Duvalie to a cutscene where he says "She's so fast", I can't help but feel he's being sarcastic or something. I'm fine with occasionally running into a scripted defeat, but they over did it in my opinion. I really got sick of the template of: run into a strong foe, try to fight it, lose, be saved by a passerby. The ones I can think of off the top of my head: Magic Knight at the start, Fie's jaeger friends at Gurrelia Fortress, McBurn and Duvalie when Sara comes back, and So many times during the infernal castle. That and the fact that bosses pretty much always escape (shown as them leaving you alone because they got bored) when you do win, gives the impression that class 7 is grossly incompetent. It's been a while since I played Cold Steel 1, but I remember getting kind of annoyed with the cutscenes of the imperial liberation front saying "All is going according to plan." every time they get seriously fucked over. I like the gameplay, world, and political setting, but I really don't think the storytelling style they use is for me. I'm still enjoying them a lot regardless, and I hope we can get 3 and 4 translated sometime before 2020.
771889 No.14771917
>>14771594
CS2 has about a hundred different ways to break the game. Which in itself can be fun, even if it takes away from the challenge. I did a Rebellion Jusis build, which could kill any regular encounter in the final dungeon before they could attack me. Katze can also be pretty cheesy against McBurn when you block all of his regular attacks.
During TitS you were beating the big bad guys in the final dungeon of SC. But since CS2 was always supposed to be part of CS1, and only became its own game due to development issues, CS2 storywise isn't supposed to be a point where class 7 can beat the big bad guys. CS3, which was supposed to be CS2, is the point where you can and will beat them.
fac304 No.14774545
>>14771917
Does this mean they had to draw out CS1 and 2 enough for them be their own games?
771889 No.14774937
>>14774545
CS1 was not drawn out, the issue with it is that there was too much. They even cut the Ymir field study, which is mentioned during CS2. However, there wasn't enough to create 2 full games. I would say that it is noticeable in CS2. The Courageous is introduced in CS1 but never used until CS2. There are a bunch of filler quests with no story relevance, and with little to no character development. And retracing dungeons to gather resources. If you skip all side quests CS2 becomes a fairly short game. And if they didn't make you go inside the temples multiple times, then it would have been even shorter.
d61481 No.14775479
Fan translators are the worst meme.
be57e9 No.14776391
>>14776381
>>14775939
This from Akatsuki?
GET DUVALIE
d61481 No.14776400
>>14776391
The image i posted is Tio's character model in Zero.
371b78 No.14776645
>>14776400
You could rip Duvalie's model from Ao, though.
21974f No.14779211
>>14764842
>Or at LEAST halfway fix the translation?
Kinda, but not really. Check out this thread: https://steamcommunity.com/app/579180/discussions/2/3288067088131919480/
The main scenario is better than before, but it really wasn't retranslated. They had someone significantly rewrite the original horrible translation and pretended it was retranslated. Everyone loses their character voice completely outside of the main story, because the side-content has barely been reworked.
Also, looks like some text strings (that are fine on PS4) are broken in the PC version.
fac304 No.14779970
>>14778848
How to do these? I've tried and tried.
6e7793 No.14779988
>>14779970
What game?
I think good camera movement was introduced in CS3.
d61481 No.14780034
de2386 No.14780260
>>14768317
so what you're saying is that that PS4 version is somewhat passable then, aside from that one side-quest?
d61481 No.14780576
Are there items related to fleeing from battle in SC like there are in the 3rd? I don't remember.
d3c0a6 No.14783289
>>14780260
For me it was, but I played with JPN audio and wasn't assblasted by no Xseed. In fact I prefer dry autistic localisation.
My standards are low for niche weebshit: no crashes and no memes. Ys 8 passed the test, Tokyo Xanadu did not. I'm not going to project my enjoyment on others though: I have my opinions and everyone else has theirs.
d3c0a6 No.14783341
>Anyway, it seems I am out of luck. Unlike in the movie industry, there does not appear to be a demand for proper translated subtitles for foreign language games.
Truer words were never spoken. Currently playing FF15 and it is annoying me to no end.
Dubtitles are wrong and people need to be executed for it. Sadly the vast majority of the world dubs foreign entertainment. Here in Europe only Belgium, the Netherlands and Scandinavia prefers subtitling.
be57e9 No.14783374
>>14783341
>playing FF15
Jesus, I could go on a rant about how horrible that game is. The only things good about it are some of the music, the idea/potential of a bro roadtrip that's rarely built upon and some of the visuals.
But SE's localizers have been showing their colours since Type0 HD, changing the moogles' gender to xe and xir.
17594a No.14783429
>>14783289
>In fact I prefer dry autistic localisation.
So you hate NISA's very liberal interpretations then?
771889 No.14783676
>>14783289
>In fact I prefer dry autistic localisation.
I fully agree. I find learning Japanese a bit daunting (especially for a game like Trails), however, I understand basic words and Japanese habits enough to interpreter meaning with Japanese voice acting and simple English subs. I don't need translators to interpreter everything for me, or localize certain lines completely. It is especially jarring when they try to make it more western.
6e7793 No.14784860
In CS2 I just liberated Trista. Now there is something that's called feelings welling up inside of me.
These fucking games man.
919be7 No.14785205
>>14783289
> no crashes and no memes
that's all I really ask for myself. XSEED just tends to deliver on that pretty well.
fac304 No.14785598
>>14784860
Those will only increase in volume. Brace for it anon.
4369dc No.14786836
Are any of you guys in the Falcom disagreement? Just finished Tits 2 and the pacing is fucked in the later half. I'm an hour into Tits 3 and really digging it. Make sure to listen to the We Love SORA NO KISEKI if you have not.
4369dc No.14786839
>>14786836
*Falcom disagreement
371b78 No.14787265
>>14786836
>>14786839
A few people are here I'd guess. I am. If you want news fast they usually have it first.
be57e9 No.14789635
>>14786836
I didn't dig 3 at first, but after a while something clicked and I couldn't stop playing.
fac304 No.14790689
>>14786836
Never heard of this album, thanks.
d61481 No.14790857
>>14790831
I think/hope they're saying they lurk there for news and not post.
705afc No.14791436
>>14790831
>>14790857
The art and lewd sections have some decent posts from time to time.
4369dc No.14791856
>>14790831
Take the stick out of your ass.
>>14791436
I mostly lurk the Ys 8 channel waiting on the PC port to be fixed.
64a99c No.14792195
>>14791856
How's about you grow a pair and show some fucking integrity as a consumer. You have no right to bitch about NISA's shitting on the game if you contribute to the rest of the cancers destroying the game industry without qualms.
>>14792023
You are supporting a social network that is built up, funded and supported by a coalition of the most cancerous entities in the gaming industry. Botnet bullshit aside this alone should fucking deter you. At the very least don't be so fucking shameless about posting here as if you should be welcomed, or treated normally for doing this. Keep your shit-eating habits to yourself if you must engage in it. Nobody wants to hear about your fucking disagreement escapades.
>>14791926
>/v/edditor
Goddamn the cancer is worse than I thought.
d61481 No.14795290
>>14791856
Damn, I was going to make a "that feels soooo good." screenshot but I forgot.
6f2343 No.14795359
>>14771594
>I like the gameplay, world, and political setting, but I really don't think the storytelling style they use is for me.
This is a common storytelling pitfall on a lot of Japanese media nowadays.
>The heroes win because they must
>Somehow the villains still don't lose because they can't
>Everything resets until the next arc
The problem is that it seems people seem to like this style considering how popular works that overuse this trope are (eg. My Hero Academia). I understand this became popular because people were tired of the "Always a Bigger Fish" of old shonen, but you can create narrative structures outside of these.
A great example would be any Suikoden, most notably II and V, where there are definite setbacks for both heroes and villains and they matter, they have lasting consequences. I wish we could have more of that instead of always being the single track ride of weird stalemates that CS1 and 2 end up feeling like.
be57e9 No.14797148
I really wish there was more fanart of Falcom games. Or just art in general.
Like there's no fanart of the nun girl from Ys VIII. You'd think that'd be fodder for hentai artists.
76cf70 No.14801319
School nurse Luciola to go along with schoolgirl Duvalie and Tio.
4369dc No.14801860
After beating SC I skimmed the internet of every English speaking Falcom hangout I could think of came came across this post on leddit
https://mega.nz/#F!QkFDgLBC!UiLo3rUekisptpzONidpmw!B4EmyZQI
The big standout for me was the Evo voice mod which would make the trails series fully voiced. I have not tested any of this but I"m going try out the voices mod for 3rd tonight.
0817dd No.14802052
>>14801860
>SC games have final dances
So protag gets to dance with different girls at the end of his game? Imagine Joshua doing such a thing.
c37ab5 No.14802101
>>14802052
You get to choose who you dance with, if they're a girl, or just hang out with, if they're a guy. You can even choose the student council president or your teacher. The second game also has a final bonding event where you get to choose who you tour the dorm with. The Princess of Erebonia is on this list if I remember correctly
f59ea6 No.14802159
>>14795359
Suikoden II is a such a good game. it deserved a lot more attention.
3e5dba No.14802180
So finally got around to play Act II in CS2 and I expected the game to be a giant chore as many people have told me it was the worst part of any Trails game so far.
Funny how I enjoyed it and never felt bored throughout the whole thing, I maxed AP on all parts did all trial chests and the optional bosses. I found "The Tetracyclic Towers" and "Land of Chaos" to be way more of a drag to do in SC, still cool chapters.
About to start the Final act, hope it´s good, CS2 so far has impressed me more than I though after hearing mixed opinions of it. Rean speeches are really cheesy tho.
371b78 No.14802275
>>14802180
I personally feel like CS2 and especially Act 2 gets more hate than it deserves, so I'm not shocked that someone being told it was terrible would find it enjoyable.
d61481 No.14802362
make zemuria zemiya again
371b78 No.14802903
>>14802635
>Bestelle getting revealed before Schera
Wew!
0817dd No.14802975
>>14802903
>Bestelle
Who is… Oh! Right. Didn't get that at first.
a86997 No.14803038
>>14802635
Estelle and Joshua returning was pretty obvious if you have played enough Falcom games, but even then, it's pretty exciting. inb4 CSfags that will never bother playing the other games will complain.
c37ab5 No.14803074
>>14803038
>CSfags
>Trying to divide the community like that
Fuck off, faggot. That shit doesn't work here.
a86997 No.14803091
>>14803074
What the fuck did you smoke? There are faggots who only play CS because the previous games "have terrible graphics" and other bullshit excuses. As if CS had top notch 4k textures.
371b78 No.14803124
>>14803091
I'm going to be honest, I've never run into one. And I get where that other anon is coming from. Someone I knew showed me the cuckchan /vg/ Falcom thread once. The entire place is an ocean of piss where trolls have factionized the community into picking an arc and hating the others. You see the word "csfag" thrown around a lot there. So I completely understand wanting to keep that bullshit out.
d61481 No.14803157
>>14803124
Yeah, I looked at it a while ago when someone mentioned it here. I didn't even know cuck /vg/ had a Falcom thread. The place is a cesspool.
a86997 No.14803208
>>14803157
>>14803124
Well, I don't know how often "CSfag" is used in cuckchan, but what else would I use to name people that only care for Cold Steel?
771889 No.14803414
>>14802635
Is that a new outfit? I am certain she didn't have sleeves like that. I also wonder if her Master Quarts is sun themed.
771889 No.14803903
>>14802635
Wait. What if it is KeA. Look at the antenna and sleeves.
371b78 No.14804125
>>14803903
>Giving KeA twintails
>A hairstyle she has never had
>In a game where Estelle is very likely to return
For what purpose?
771889 No.14804163
>>14804125
To bait people. Based on her artwork in Third and Zero. She has a slim face unlike what seems to be a rounder face. Her hair is straight, so there are no curls in the twin tail. And she has hair which falls towards the sides of her face, which is absent in the silhouette. She also never had any clothing with long sleeves. Nor does an loose open jacket seem like anything a bracer would wear. The hear accessories weren't this pointy in either TitS or Zero.
be57e9 No.14804361
>>14802052
>>14802101
Also depending on who you choose it ends up more platonic than romantic. Millium for example, is a little sister type rather than having a straight up romantic scene. Most of the girls Rean's age has a romantic scene.
The princess just says she wants a threesome with Rean and his sister in lots or roundabout words.
AFAIK you can even choose not to have a final scene with anyone, and Rean just gets a short one by himself.
>>14802180
>>14802275
I really love CS2 despite all the dislike the Cold Steel series gets. If you look deeper into it you'll realize that Rean's life is fucked, and CS2 is him doing the best he can to attempt to regain some normalcy.
CS2 spoilers It fails and he gets fucked beyond belief. He ends up giving up and giving in at the end, not knowing what to. This is shown explicitly in the final scenes of CS2 where other characters decide what to do with their futures while Rean gives up and stays with Thors.
Rean's a really interesting character in that things keep happening to him but all he wants is to live normally. But he wants to be normal to the point where he doesn't stand out. At first keeps people at arm's length, doesn't join any clubs, keeps his ogre side hidden, constantly downplays himself and his skills etc. The universe has other plans for him though. He's like the opposite of Estelle. Estelle embraces herself and her abilities, Rean does not.
>>14802635
Oh man, I can't wait to see how she looks. Seeing characters grow older and changing over the course of a series is my fetish.
771889 No.14804469
>>14804361
Rean is a good character in the sense that he develops, and in the case of CS2 then also reverts when he is faced with a problem he can not solve. It makes it seem more real, especially considering what he has been through.
I also think that the hate for Cold Steel is due to it being more anime than previous games, even if Crossbell was getting pretty close in that sense. A lot of western "fans" weren't comfortable with that. Probably because they find it embarrassing, or because they are goons.
c37ab5 No.14805282
>>14804361
Your post made me realize something important about Rean. He just wants a quiet life. Sure, he wants to see his country and what it has to offer, but he ultimately just wants to figure out who he is most of all in quiet way. You nailed it on the head that he's the opposite of Estelle, a girl who wants to actively see the world and show the world what she can do instead of living in the shadow of her father. Rean, on the other hand, doesn't. He doesn't want all the labels people keep throwing at him. He didn't want to be the leader of Class VII at first, he didn't want to be labeled as the Ashen Chevalier, he didn't want to be labeled a noble, he didn't want to end up joining Osborne, he wants to protect his country, but doesn't want the fanfare that goes with it. He's a lost boy who had his identity stripped away from him from a very early age. Not knowing who, what, or why he is. Osborne really fucked him up, but in a way, so did the Baron and his wife for seemingly not caring about helping him answer these questions. Or, maybe they did and he was just too prideful. He ran off to Thors in order to find himself, but couldn't. That's why he joins up with a branch of Thors in order to still learn who he is while teaching the next generation who they are.
I'm unsure why most people think Rean is the weakest protagonist. Maybe they just don't want to think too much and use what >>14804469 is talking about, in regards to the school setting and how anime it is, in order to discredit him as a character.
371b78 No.14805338
>>14804361
Millium jokes about romantic stuff with Rean, but it's unclear how serious she's being. CS3 starts pushing her hard with Jusis.
d61481 No.14806150
Millium is the worst character.
371b78 No.14806170
>>14806150
She grew on me a lot after CS3.
371b78 No.14806227
>>14803903
>>14804163
Fuck, I think it is KeA now. I hadn't seen this design before.
be57e9 No.14806812
>>14805282
That's the biggest thing about Rean. At the start of the series, Rean left Ymir to find a place for himself, but also to put his family at arm's length. They know about his ogre side, his sister knows, he fears them treating him differently, as something other than just their son. They're generally not at fault for anything, it's Rean pushing them away.
He dislikes the idea of being a noble, and sees his existence as the cause of his father pulling out of noble gatherings.
He keeps his being a noble via adoption a secret from everyone because he doesn't want to be seen as special. He doesn't join a club for the same reason. He can play the guitar, so he'd be good in the music club. He can also fight, so there's fencing. And he's athletic, so he'd be something in swimming. He's also a noble so he took part in horseback riding at least once.
Sara attempts to get him to stop thinking this way which is why she pushes him as the leader of Class VII, and then assigns him to helping out the student council. That's all innocent and probably would've helped him if nothing more started happening.
Anytime Rean strives for normalcy, the universe kicks him in the teeth. He didn't want to be the leader of Class VII, but gets pushed into it anyway. He didn't want to cross the country and stop terrorists, but he had to do it anyway, because terrorist attacks would disrupt his attempts a living normally (except by them just appearing, they make an impact).
And then when things finally get back to normal. When he thought he was finally just going to continue a normal life in a place he found himself fitting into and belonging to (Thors and Class VII), shit hits the fan. Rean already has to deal with how others will perceive his ogre side, but now he has to accept ANOTHER power that makes him the special outsider: Valimar.
What makes it worse is that even though he accepted Valimar he fails, Thors is taken, his friends' fates are unknown and he is flying off, and in his mind, abandoning them all to die or be destroyed; his one place where he felt he could be normal
This is why he's so desperate and frustrated at the very beginning of CS2, and it only worsens as he realizes that it's been a month.
CS2 is him trying to fight for that normalcy back. His main goals throughout the game are reuniting with his friends and retaking his "home", Thors. But again, the universe has other plans for him, placing him as the leader once more and the leader of a group that fast becomes a major player in the civil war. His use of Valimar as a trump card is played up.
What makes it worse for him is that throughout CS2 he starts to accept himself more and more, gaining a modicum of control over his ogre side, and comes to terms with using Valimar more and more (basically implied by their sync rate). And then all that is reset to 0 when at the end it's revealed that Osborne is still alive and that he is Osborne's son. This results in him rejecting himself even more. Not only that, but his ties to Valimar basically ensures that he will no longer have a normal life. Osborne takes full advantage of his good nature, forcing him to join in the war with Crossbell in order to quickly take it over with little casualty, and he earns the title of the Ashen Chevalier, which he does not want. All his friends move on from Thors, leaving him behind. The place he belonged to is now his prison. The people he loved are all gone, and now he's alone in his misery.
I'd also like to point out that Emma at the end of CS2 is the only one who leaves with her end goal being to support and help Rean. She never took her duty seriously before, so she leaves in an attempt to learn more about Valimar and her duty, so that she could return and stand by him, supporting him fully. Everyone else leaves to pursue their own goals that's separate from Rean.
d61481 No.14806846
>>14806227
https://twitter.com/Gu4n/status/997079144117755904
It's going to be KeA. Give me Estelle already Falcom.
>>14806170
I'm only in chapter 2 but I'm not seeing it.
c37ab5 No.14806957
>>14806812
I agree completely. I can't say much for Lloyd since I haven't played his games, and I adore Kevin's, Estelle's and Joshua's journeys, but my lord Falcom is doing extremely well with Rean and I'm waiting with bated breath on how they're going to close out his story. Please just let this poor boy have a happy life. He deserves it at this point.
be57e9 No.14807565
>>14806957
I only played Zero but as far as I can remember, Lloyd didn't have much of an impact on me. He's very much the good, noble hero, but doesn't have the same boisterousness and energy as Estelle, or the flaws and the ire of the universe that Rean has.
I think my favourite thing about him is how he looks when he's drawn by Enami Katsumi, but that's just because I like the artist's work in general.
The thing I envy most is that he gets to stare at Rixia's ass all day.
c37ab5 No.14807904
>>14807565
I want Rixia to sit on my face if I'm being honest.
7cef93 No.14808012
>>14715098
Why the fuck is there always a thread on them? It'd be like making an Acclaim or OCEAN developer thread. Literally who cares. How many threads is it going to take for you to figure out Ys sucks?
d61481 No.14808026
a86997 No.14808969
>>14808012
I agree, even Compile Heart or NIS is better than Falcom. Why don't we get more Neptunia or DIsgaea threads???
c37ab5 No.14809137
>>14808012
>Thread has been going on for weeks
>I'm just now going to come in and be a faggot once the thread passes bump limit
What a bitch.
371b78 No.14814751
Any changes needed for next bread?
64a99c No.14815594
>>14809137
that's actually (unintentionally) polite of him though, it prevents posts towards the bump limit wasted replying to his shitpost
771889 No.14816594
So I guess that the Ao patch is never ever.
d4ec7b No.14816750
Is there any english guides for getting all the character info in zwei 2? I keep missing shit.
371b78 No.14817015
>>14816207
>>14816415
Blue and white, actually. They're shimapan.
d61481 No.14817234
>>14816207
>>14816415
You can get better shots than that.
>>14816594
probably
d61481 No.14817239
rean coldsteel
from the legend of cold steel
6e7793 No.14817305
d61481 No.14817316
>>14817305
You've just gotta talk to valimar while switching characters or whatever. Alisa's shit anyway use a better character.
371b78 No.14817414
If no one can come up with any changes I'm just gonna copy the op again. You've got like 1-2 hours.
d61481 No.14817486
>>14817414
Change the Zero and Ao fan translations to MIA too. :^)
371b78 No.14817519
>>14817486
The Zero one is more or less the same, since only Zerker does any work on it (despite it supposedly being a team project) and he can only work on it while out of school. But I can add something about Flame being a lazy faggot on the Ao one.
d61481 No.14817546
>>14715098
>And NISA fucked up, the port is so terrible that only 25% of the Steam reviews being positive.
43% now
6e7793 No.14817561
>>14817316
The sitting part was from when I was autistically filling everyone's CP bar to 200.
The second one was from a cutscene where everyone was present.
9241bb No.14817563
>>14817546
But is that because the game is any better or because they finally got enough NISApologists to review the game?
6e7793 No.14817569
>>14817563
>they finally got enough NISApologists to review the game?
This most likely.
371b78 No.14818099