/v/ - Video Games

Wasn't Kevine and his studio disbanded? I think he works on some indieshit right now, so it might be different from Infinite

>>14641156

New studio is doing it apparently.

>so it might be different from Infinite

I'm hoping for a return to what 1 did.

>>14641152

>just a rumor

Why isn't 2K dead yet? Are they just mediocre enough to slide by? I remember they shit on PC gaming with the first two Bioshock, the first one had some esoteric DRM and the second didn't release any of the DLCs to PC.

>>14641152

>Given that 1 and 2 are pretty much the only good fpsrpgs to be made since System Shock 2

Prey was alright.

1 was the only the good one.

>>14641179

When did New Vegas come out in relation to Bioshock 1 and 2? That was pretty good

>>14641188

Released just after 2 actually. Honestly even calling Bioshock an FPSRPG is just wrong. Its just an FPS with RPG mechanics, you never level up, you're not role-playing a character, you're just a dude with magic powers who can shoot shit.

>>14641196

Forgot to mention: you don't have any stats, there are no random rolls to see anything.

>>14641177

Most people I see shitting on Bioshock 2 are just faggots whining about the story. I don't even remember what the biggest complaints were since I haven't touched the game in so long, but I remember people were mostly complaining about plot holes and inconsistencies with Bioshock 1.

Honestly, they're both fairly mediocre but Bioshock 2 had superior level design IMO

>Shariashock

>infiltrate the futurisitic Islamic dystopia of "Persia"

>persued by the horrifying Mecha Mecca, you fight to free the young goat prophet from endless buggerings

>powers include stone, acid, taqiya, and peaceful explosion

>>14641179

Forgot Deus Ex my bad.

>>14641188

New Vegas was kinda crap to be honest. Nice idea but held back by rushed development and a terrible engine.

>>14641152

Shill thread.

>>14641165

>Why isn't 2K dead yet?

GTA.

>>14641185

If it plays like Burial at Sea ep2 I would be okay with this. Wouldn't pay for it though.

>>14641209

>terrible engine.

Tell that to Divinity: DKS. Really Bethesda just can't use their own fucking engine.

>>14641294

Before anyone loses their minds, yes I know it's Obsidian, but presumably they worked with Bethesda on the game.

>>14641202

Whats there to even whine about when 2 includes best daughter of all time in Bioshock history

(((Levine))) has only ever attacked rightwing ideas in his games. Often by taking their political ideas in bad faith and unfairly portraying them as badly as possible. Bioshock 1 was to create a world that shits on any objectivists and libertarians. Infinite was to create a world that shits on any nationalists, white supremacists, and christians. But even so, he was still a bit of a fencesitter. I forgot what the reason was, but I remember sjws turning on him and wanting his head on a platter. Although he's still very much left leaning, that negative experience probably made him cautious about the far left crazies on his side.

But if it's true that he isn't working on this latest bioshock game, then there's nothing from stopping the sjws from fully taking over this series now. The new studio is most likely gonna be made up of good soygoy sjwcucks that will ramp up the leftist propaganda to a new degree. Making (((Levine)))'s propaganda look tame by comparison. Mark my words.

>>14641309

>I forgot what the reason was, but I remember sjws turning on him and wanting his head on a platter

Probably because the commie uprising makes Columbia worse. I'm still not sure if he wrote that part accidentally.

>>14641309

>I forgot what the reason was,

I think it was because in Infinite, the revolutionaries(black and irish) were just as violent and evil as the white supremacists, and of course you had to deal with them as well.

>>14641177

2 was good.

>>14641164

Me too Anon, if they make it like 1 but polish what that did like they did in 2, it'll be a great game. I liked BioShock, so I'm excited to see (albeit worried too) what happens with it.

>>14641309

> I forgot what the reason was, but I remember sjws turning on him and wanting his head on a platter.

He tweeted something along the lines of "gamergate isn't the worst thing ever".

I guess women are pretty much currency and useful tools in all of his games also.

>>14641322

I guess that was why they retconned the sheboon to a dindu nuffin she just listened to the lettuce twins in the DLC. How the fuck could the soygoys not see it coming?

>Bioshock 1

>Dystopian Libertarianism

>Leader of the opposition was just another cunt

>Infinite

>(potato)niggers given work according to their abilities

>Chimpout

>Sheboon is straight up murderous trying to kill a kid in an elevator

>Just another cunt

I guess they were just mad their plans got revealed.

>>14641165

They own a lot of normalfag-friendly properties.

>>14641185

A Biosoy?

anyone has the complete scnas of the Bioshock Infinite artbook? the ones on panda are incomplete

>>14641207

We didn't ask for a new System Shock either, but that's what we are getting, with Warren "Cuck" Spector's seal of approval no less.

>>14642685

>We didn't ask for a System Shock REMAKE either

I don't even think they've started with SS3.

>>14642687

They have to shit up Ultima Underworld first.

>>14641300

Obsedian wanted to rebuild the entire engine but the budget allocated to them was too small to do that.

>>14641202

havent revisited it in years have you?

bioshock 2 is bad because mid development they told them to send half their budget to the now warframe devs to make an outsourced team deathmatch sidegame because options competitive multiplayer was the meme at the time.

You can see the point where the money runs out. It goes from each level having lots of secrets and paths to a hub with 3 branches, no secrets and the only goal is harvest or save 3 little sisters and the next area is a linear straight line shooter with your own model reused multiple times as minibosses.

2 is bad and even the dev team admitted it later, because 2k ruined it to follow a meme as shitty as battle royale is today.

also op is a retard prey is the best shock game since ss2.

>>14643393

and the level design is still better than the first one. fuck off ken levine.

>>14641309

Did we play different games? Infinite shit all over la revolution for da ppl n shieeet. The Vox Populi were portrayed as worsePopuliwhitey by miles. They were completely unjustified. No one was keeping the darkies there with force. Comstock was completely sane in comparison. Bioshock 2 was all about the Horrors of Lamb's communism.

>>14641177

> the only people who didn't like 2 never played it and got all hung up on an inclusion in multiplayer, ignoring the superior single player, and were butthurt they didn't have their based potato jew developing it.

I didn't like it the first time I played it because I didn't like the idea of playing as a Big Daddy. Plus the screen had this shitty tunnel vision to accentuate the fact that you are the BIG DADDY NOW. It was shitty, and I hated it. I did eventually go back to it later, however, and finish it. You get used to it, I guess. It was fine.

>>14643434

This is true, the games are more about shitting on anyone following a set of ideals at all. It's just the modern everything/one is shit fence-sitting cowardly nihilism.

>>14641172

>>14643393

this

I'll keep shilling nu-Prey as long as stupid people like OP keep making false statements. Sometimes I feel like /v/ is scared to play modern games and form their own opinions.

>>14643393

I don't remember the game falling off toward the end at all, but if it did, it didn't do it as strikingly as the first game.

>>14643499

But nuprey IS shit though, cuckchanner. The original non-sjw version will always be superior. Arkane is fucking tumblr cancer and you're a massive transgender praising faggotfuck of a person for shilling sjw propaganda here.

>>14641172

Deus Ex Human Revolution?

They were all shitty.

Play System Shock instead.

>>14645568

System Shock has aged like milk famalam.

>>14641152

Neither Bioshock nor Bioshock 2 were FPSRPGs. They were just FPSs. Underage please leave.

>>14641164

1 was best and the only one I finished but I liked playing as a big daddy. 2 would have been better if splicers were more afraid of you since you can just drill their guts and all- with big sisters or whatever macguffin being the only real challenge (but a definite one) to you.

>>14641152

will it have a marxist utopia gone wrong theme?

After infinite, why try again? Too much stigma involved and effort needed to prove that this will be a better game that its probably easier to just make a whole new ip thats thematically similar to bioshock.

>>14647414

Russia themed?

>Game is actually done right

>We get Slav Zone Shock

>Rivet gun big daddies shoot pellets of depleted uranium

>Bodka

>>14647289

>>>/out/

>>14641185

>>14642655

pls no biosoy

>>14647414

There's going to be at least one Drumpf and brexit reference.

>>14642647

>not wanting to bang your long-lost daughter

The problem with Bioshock Infinite is everything that Elizabeth would be an autistic, jittery, terrified, stuttering wreck of a girl since SHE HAS HAD NO HUMAN CONTACT FOR ROUGHLY FIVE YEARS, MINIMUM. They sealed off her tower at menarche and she's ~18 in the game. Now look, I've spoken to three people, intermittently, in the last seven years. That's it. Because of this I've developed a slight speech impediment and I talk WAY too quickly, because the rest of the time I'm only thinking to myself and not hindered by the physical limitations of my mouth. I see other people, sure, but I don't have any interactions with them. Elizabeth is being COMPLETELY shut off. You can try to scream "she got that interaction through her tears" but obviously she didn't because she never goes through them and never speaks to anyone on the other side. The game is utter bullshit in every way.

The second you take her out of the tower and she starts to be around crowds, she'll be overeager and then terrified at normal social interactions, stuttering, refusing to talk to anyone but you, not know how to behave in social settings, etc. It could have made for an interesting game in its own right.

>>14647583

>autistic, jittery, terrified, stuttering wreck of a girl

sounds kinda hot

>>14647611

Fixing her sounds hot, yeah.

I've only played the first one. People have praised Bioshock 2 here before though.

I remember Bioshock Infinite just getting really fucking stupid at the end of the Fink building, when they started doing all the alternate reality shifting, time skipping, whatever the fuck it was. Now they're in an alternate reality where the guy was leading the potato niggers until they stabbed him in the back, the debt shouldn't fucking matter anymore but he's still desperately trying to catch the sperg, autistic sperg gets captured/tortured then at the end summons all her dopplegangers to kill you at the end of the game for no good reason.

>>14641165

Wrassling, NBA(EA has stupid amounts of trouble making those) and R*, and that's about it at this point, i think.

Oh yeah, and if you spare the Civil War general, at fink's the game pretty much tells you right out "Your choices don't matter"

>>14647744

The Bioshock infinite we got is wildly different from the reveals. She does seem a bit more autistic than the final, and i think the vox populi have more communist leanings than they do in the final? Don't remember 100%.

>>14647862

>real

>>14647862

FUCK YEAH!!!

>>14647921

Say what you will at least System Shock pulls no punches on gameplay.

>>14647856

Did they make her tits smaller in the release?

>>14647856

>>14648210

there are like infinite universes of her, so they made multiple versions of her.

>>14648270

Except tit size is a constant across all world lines.

>>14648273

That's not true. You can see it at the final baptizing scene.

>>14642687

The remake was cancelled because (((somehow))) they lost all their kikestarter funds.

>>14648285

no, they completely ditched the unity engine they were working on and decided to switch to unreal engine to make it look more realistic, but then they got fucking overwhelmed and the unity engine was what everyone liked because of its unique artstyle.

>>14648270

But she's dead, Anon!

All versions of Elizabeth are DEAD (You can think Levine's "need" to return to his baby via DLC for that one).

>>14648294

but she's not, bioshock infinite is basing its story on the cat in the box theory, where its dead and alive at the same time.

>>14648321

/v/ is one person, pretending to be many

>>14648225

That image is horrible and doesn't show anything.

>>14648376

>rhetorical questions are jewish tricks now

>Levine says, he doesn't know shit about "science"

No shit, its science based on typical retard level of science were they pick it up from some scientist and don't do any fact checking or research and just belive 100% what they say.

they went back in time were booker become comstock and killed him, but by doing so elizabeth never gets born, so how could she kill her father if she wasn't born. which is why she's alive and dead since in an alternate universe she still lives.

>>14648413

>implying there is only one linear universe

>>14648502

Err nvm nerd I misunderstood your post.

SS2, B1, Minerva's den and Infinite are all true "Shock" games because they have narrative plot points that make you complete question/alter your understanding of the previous ~10 hours you've been playing.

Bioshock 2 had such a weak plot despite having decent potential. They never developed Lamb and her cult/religion like they did Ryan or even Comstock. At the start you had all the blood scrawled righting about Lamb leading the people and being the savior etc… and it was pretty interesting. But they never really went beyond that or gave her any interesting motives or backstory. They stealing little girls for near the beach was also a great hook at the start that went nowhere.

Playing as a lifeless, brainwashed literal robot was also made it impossible to connect with and Eleanor was pretty annoying and her purpose was intrinsically pointless.

Gameplay wise the whole protecting little sisters as the harvest was easily the worst gameplay trope in the entire series. It was literal grinding game padding repetitive lazy development bullshit.

Infinite had the best story for start to finish and also best character connection between the player and the main protagonist (both Booker and Elizabeth). Like I said it was impossible to care about Delta and whilst Jack was Ok Booker and Elizabeth where far more fleshed out.

For atmosphere and gameplay Bioshock 1 was the best. Infinite wasn't far off but it was slightly inferior. For story Infinite was the best.

>>14641309

If your enjoyment of a video game is based on whether it vindicates your political beliefs than you're a spastic. If a story is told in an interesting way and if the gameplay is excellent I couldn't give a fuck if they made Hitler the hero or carl the cuck the hero.

>>14648413

>they went back in time were booker become comstock and killed him, but by doing so elizabeth never gets born, so how could she kill her father if she wasn't born. which is why she's alive and dead since in an alternate universe she still lives.

But in the ending when they're running between the lighthouses we also see other Bookers and Elizabeths going to different lighthouses. So while in that universe Elizabeth drowns Booker before he becomes Comstock, in another one she might not. So she's alive in that now.

>>14648541

>in another one she might not.

Considered that too, but that also means that there's no point to playing the damn thing because "Unless Booker is dead, Comstock will exist".

>>14647856

>we got is wildly different

She's your daughter instead of your waifu in the version we got, and the game is all the worse for it. It's obvious she was meant to get your pee pee going, not evoke fatherly instincts.

Also, the Songbird was supposed to be a bossfight, we never got that, and I remember reading how they scraped a shitload of levels because Levine went full retard on the project.

>>14648541

>>14648576

or maybe the story is a jumbled mess

>>14648624

people who play video games don't have fatherly instincts

>>14648576

In the DLC it's explained more clearly that basically because of her abilities she transcends the effects of the multiverse because she can actively travel through it. Also if you pay attention you'll see that your Elizabeth isn't at your drowning at the end because she's wearing a different necklace to the one you gave her early on. Booker even says something like "wait your not ….". So she was presented for the drowning so she is still alive doing something in another universe. At least that's how I understand it and had it explained to me.

Also in the DLC you kill Comstock in Rapture and it's explained that "this Comstock survived" Booker being drowned because he escaped to another universe outside the columbia timeline. So besides Elizabeth potentially being able to survive timeline alter events because she's some kind of God, normal people can also survive if the escape to universes not directly linked to their original ones.

>>14648751

>or maybe the story is a jumbled mess

Not really in my opinion. Between the finer details in the main game and the expanded points in the DLC it's feasible to piece together a coherent explanation if you're looking for the level of detail. Which is nice because most gamers wont care enough beyond the major plot points and the ones that do probably don't like it being literally spoon fed to them.

>>14648624

They changed her breast size something like ~ 9 months before release. Had nothing to do with her being your wife, story looked like it was always about her being the daughter of the prophet and you being the prophet. Levine said he only had the big breasts so that players could easily spot her during crowded NPC scenes. He changed it after people focused too much on them and was worried it would impact on the players connection with Elizabeth. Rather than caring for her people would be autistic and lust over her.

>Also, the Songbird was supposed to be a bossfight, we never got that, and I remember reading how they scraped a shitload of levels because Levine went full retard on the project.

The main single player stuff they scraped was a repeated encounters with the Songbird where you'd gradually chip away at it's health throughout the game, Elizabeth being able to enhance your vigour abilities (which they scraped because it was literal witch craft and didn't fit in with the multiverse theme) and NPC being more aggressive/reactive towards you. That's as far as I know. You know anything else?

Bioshock is another one of those games anons liked at first but turned on when it got popular. I'm sick of you hipster faggots.

>>14648822

Infinite was always trash though

>>14651613

>Bioshock is another one of those games anons liked at first but turned on when it got popular. I'm sick of you hipster faggots.

This though if you don't live /v/ you're welcome to leave fag.

>>14644429

Considering that arkane is owned by bethesda/zenimax I don't think they actually had too much of a say in how much poz got jammed in.

that might just be wishful thinking though because I loved the shit out of arx/dark messiah.

I want to believe that some of that still exists

I forget how was the gameplay in nuprey?

>>14658253

>Bioshock 1 is my least favorite game of the trilogy.

You actually prefer Infinite to 1? I smell reddit.

Levine's butthurt over all of the Elizabeth porn was pretty funny. What the hell was he even expecting. The fact Elizabeth was based on his daughter is all the more hilarious.

>>14651613

no, even when it came out the discussions were mostly hipsters saying system shock 2 was better. Mockery of the game, its promotion. You must be very new to think it was a retrospectively disliked game, it was introduced into nettle from the very start. We even had old videos comparing and contrasting the game play with the lies Levine was spinning, like how it wasn't a generic corridor shooter (when it really is) and how there's no artificial blockades like invisible walls (there are.) A sort of crowbcat before crowbcat.

-t. someone who was actually on /v/ in 2007.

>>14658253

bioshock is at least a little playable, even if it's chock full of missed potential it's enjoyable in some ways. Plus the action approach to system shock style design is far better than the rpg approach, it would have been nice if bioshock actually had good game play, but at least the second one did.

>>14658351

his supposed butthurt felt really forced, he mentioned it totally out of nowhere and it came across like that time randy pitchford plugged a battleborn porn reddit board. I'm not convinced it was even remotely genuine.

>>14651613

>/v/ just hates things that are popular!

>Not because of the respawn system that barely punished you for dying

>Not because of the fact that the levels were incredibly linear

>Not because of the shit gunplay

>Not because of the moral system being undermined by the fact that harvesting little sisters would always net you less Adam

Yeah bud, Undertale really is an amazing game.

>>14658332

>You actually prefer Infinite to 1?

Yes because despite uselessness of Elizabeth, the bullet-sponge enemies, the fact that the skyhook turns it into a "light-gun" game, the comic book plot that is terrible, how there's little gameplay options beyond what just about any other FPS offers you…where was I going? Oh! …Infinite still had an atmosphere to it that made me want to complete the game to the end (Until I played B@S, that made the entire game a dumpster fire).

>>14658253

>literally everyone in the game gets fucked over in some way or another

>home is flooding

>people dying everywhere, your entire world is crumbling around you

No shit it felt angry, for the people living there everything sucked by the time you arrive

If my house was flooded and my neighbor tried to kill me I'd be angry too

>>14658351

Source?

>>14659542

it was in a leddit AMA. Ken doesn't have children, what he actually said is that after everything was done, he treated elizabeth like his daughter as most of the dev team, when working on it and such. >>14658351 doesn't check his sources.

>>14658351

and original elizabeth design had bigger breast ummmm….

Bioshock was never good.

Prey is great.

>>14660581

>Prey is great.

I hope you mean original and not nu.

>>14663502

EYEniggers need to stop inserting their shitty game into every thread. I'm sick of it and the game isn't even any damn good.

Grettings Anons!.

I will first implore all of you to give infinite a chance, I'ts a dark horse in the franchise by FAR! The weapons are grand with a nice sense of style adding to the mix, atleast the game is original in its originality, thats more to say than the new cod game released once a year.

The inclusion of a multiplayer aspect of the package would of made it a solid 8 as you faggots will agree with me. I invite a healthy debate and I will read post in an fair way. (p.s bioshock 1 superior )

>>14667630

>The weapons are grand with a nice sense of style adding to the mix

<See fourth pic here: >>14642647

>atleast the game is original in its originality

To anyone that has never read a comic book.

>thats more to say than the new cod game released once a year.

Just to humor things…

<Call of Duty 1-3 tells different stories behind battles fought on the allies side of WWII

<CoD4 was about preventing an arms dealer from starting WWIII

<WaW dedicates half of it's campaign to Pacific Front (Which is widely untouched)

<MW2 is about how the Russians are preparing for WWIII

<BLOPS is about Vietnam and conspiracy theories

<MW3 is about trying to stop the war with Russia from progressing further

<BLOPS2 is about someone trying to start a war with China

<Ghosts is about South America invading the U.S.

<AW is about a PMC trying to conquer the world

<BLOPS3 is something about a computer virus

<IW is about a war brewing over people unhappy with Earth's dominance

<WWII is Operation Overlord

So, going by some quick research and what I remember hearing, the most common storylines in CoD are:

<The assault to Berlin

And:

<Someone starting shit between factions

Meanwhile, in all three Shock games Levine has worked on, the "plot twist" in all three games is that "Good guy was bad guy all along" (With Infinite throwing in a little twist that "You is bad guy as well").

>The inclusion of a multiplayer aspect of the package would of made it a solid 8 as you faggots will agree with me.

Bioshock 2 had multiplayer barely anyone talks about it.

1 > 2 > Infinite. 2 was a copy of 1 that failed to innovate in any way.

I hope they come up with another great setting for the game. One of the strongest things about Bioshock is all the cool places and areas you could go to, and all the interesting enemies you got to fight.

They'd better put in more RPG mechanics this time around. That was the only issue I had with the series- it could have had a ton of replay value if it wasn't so basic.

>>14641165

2k makes more from selling digital money on GTA5 than they have with their entire company has in the past

https://www.please use archive.ism/2017/08/02/gta-online-had-its-best-quarter-ever-since-releasing-four-years-ago-and-is-expected-to-have-a-record-year/

>>14672057

http://archive.is/BrO4p

sorry I forgot to archive

>>14672059

At least you fixed it, that's why the filter is there.

>>14675759

>it's a military junta that took over the Mars colony and built up a massive military force to wipe Earth our of existence

Didn't they rip off that scenario from ZOE?

>>14675812

>Didn't they rip off that scenario from ZOE?

There's no originality left.

>>14683916

If you don't engage with twitchfags it'll flop anyway.

>>14693009

Marginally better gunplay and level design, doesn't have a story that's just a poor man's System Shock 2.

>>14641152

>Given that 1 and 2 are pretty much the only good fpsrpgs to be made since System Shock 2

Prey 2017 takes a fat shit in the mouths of both of them.

>>14696808

That's explained faggot.

>>14698192

>It's better because it's better

You don't even know for sure, do you?

>>14699293

You're retarded.

>>14709823

The gunplay is better and more fun

>>14712536

What if I say please?

>>14641179

Dix Sux was shit.

>>14675812

That's basically the plot of the original Gundam.

>>14641309

>bioshock 1

>hitler makes a utopia

>the jews sneak in and sabotage everything and ruin it for money

>>14718657

Sounds about right.

>>14641152

>1 and 2

possibly the worst, most casual games to come out. mass effect 3 on its own was a better game than 1 and 2 combined.

>>14723909

>going all out on your first post

Back to 4cunt with you, retard.

>>14723918

Other than the bit about Mass Effect 3 he's not that far off the mark. I mean shit like Overwatch is more casual but if you're only talking about fpsrpgs there's none more casual than Bioshock.

>>14718657

Fontane didn't start the issue that was the beginning of Rapture's fall, but that certainly didn't stop him from helping it along. Also, Ryan began power-tripping himself in later years, so, yeah, exactly like Hitler and Germany.

>>14733890

>blaming TDE on the decoupling of the dollar from gold

That's cute, shlomo. Run along back to commieland and starve to death.

>>14641152

>fpsrpgs

That they weren't. Bioshock 2 was a pretty good game though.

>>14734450

And that's not even all of them.

>>14734450

They corrupted it because it was a threat.

>>14734450

Wew.

>>14723909

>>>/out/

>>14733890

There's a difference between supporting business and outright kikery.

>>14641177

>1 was corridors and stairwells

1 had great locations wtf are you smoking

>>14754643

No, even the best levels in the game were just corridors and stair ways.

>>14641309

IIRC in from gameinformer magazines and all that garbage from before infinite came out and was still in development, originally the communist irish/black revolutionaries in the game were going to be alot worse and more violent, dragging women into the street to rape them and doing all kinds of islamic shit

but I remember playing the game and the commies were led by a charismatic strong independent black woman and the worst thing they did was knock down a statue

>>14754664

The commie leader tries to kill the kid of some important not-commie guy so boomer goes and murders her IIRC. It's still not played as equal handedly throughout the majority of the game though.

It is such a shame about what we eventually ended up getting. Reducing Elizabeth's rack size was the first warning. Just look at this shit. It is infinitely better both thematically and gameplaywise.

I'm so torn on Bioshock in general

One one hand I love the settings and premise

On the other hand I hate the stories themselves and gameplay

The games would be better off as actual movies too be honest

>>14754681

the bioshock infinite you wanted never existed and even in the earliest game play footage there were gigantic red flags like scripted blimp destruction sequences, massive button prompts, and elizabeth being the biggest try hard forced character ever.

>>14754712

Had they kept it as open to exploration as they did in Bioshock 1, fine-tuned the gameplay from the previous Bioshock games, scrapped the useless Plasmid and Weapon level-up system and stuck to the grim theme shown in that video, it would have been an excellent addition to the series. The bigger problem seems to be that they ended up scrapping the original story and shoehorning their new, overly complicated timey-wimey story bullshit in there, which didn't mesh with the FPS gameplay at all and ate into the development time.

>>14754675

I must be misremembering things

honestly my biggest problems with inifinite were 1. being insanely easy, i dont really remember any particular fights being very hard or interesting except at the VERY end when youre fighting on zeppelins and shit, and it ends right when it starts to get fun

2. theres constant "choice-making" except the choices dont ever fucking matter, I cant tell if theyre just pussying out or being fucking lazy given that the first time this happens is with the interracial couple. you get the option to throw the ball at them or the evul racists that are putting it on, and neither of your choices matter because the game literally grabs your hand and stops you before you can do anything. There are tons of moments like this in the game and it gets more and more annoying with each time. Probably the most frustrating aspect of this is that they try to rationalize it and make it "clever" at the end with all the string-theory multi-dimension bullshit, it doesnt even make any fucking sense, its like some kid in middle school just learned some basic physics and decided to write a super cool story about it. if they really understood string theory then every single little choice would be making huge exponential changes in the game, but nah, lets just add some goofy "summon whatever you need" mechanic, that makes alot more sense. I think with the race-related choices they just pussied out but with everything else, theyre just being unbelievably lazy.

3. the fucking ending holy shit, I've already bitched about the multi-dimensions bullshit. "There is always a city, always a man". Im sure someone was paid 10,000 dollars for this garbage line that just reveals how limited and uncreative these game devs are, and im sure people thought it was brilliant. But I'm not going to complain about it from a story perspective since this is a game. my problem is that they hype up this big bird thing like its the big daddy of big daddies, like every mini-boss-fight with a big daddy in 1&2 is gonna get wrapped up into a super boss fight, the entire game my head was filled with images about what the boss fight with the giant bird would possibly have been like. some insane zeppelin dog-fight? manning some sort of AA battery? weakening him and then fighting his stronger form on the ground?

oh yeah, he just fucking dies and then the final boss is YOU! THE WHITE MALE! ARENT I CLEVER?

I could have tolerated all the cuckold propaganda in the game if it was actually fun and had an interesting story , but fuck your fun white man ! theres PoC out there still in suffering! how dare you have fun !

>>14754799

I just really hated the gameplay. It was such a step down in every conceivable way. Two gun limit, plasmids are way more limited and less fun, upgrade system made no sense, no more health packs or plasmid syringes, passive gear is shoved to the wayside, etc. The only things I liked were the skyhook and some of the enemy designs like the crow people that show up for all of 20 minutes.

>>14754799

Really the worst thing for me about Infinite is that it hopped on the stupid "muh vicarious parent simulator" bullshit 3 years after Nier and Dead Rising 2 already ran it into the ground. For fucks sake how anyone can still stand that shit is beyond me.

>>14754799

>being insanely easy, i dont really remember any particular fights being very hard or interesting except at the VERY end when youre fighting on zeppelins and shit, and it ends right when it starts to get fun

>>14754824

I'd also like to add that you aren't missing anything by playing on the higher difficulties. Enemies just become aimbots and bulletsponges, and and your wallet takes a bigger hit every time you die. Also, I've yet to see anyone else mention this, the game has a lives system in that if you run out of money, the game boots you back to the title screen.

>>14754839

>the game has a lives system in that if you run out of money, the game boots you back to the title screen.

I did not know this, cause I never ran out. Also did any of the other shock games change anything on higher difficulties save for what you mentioned and less resources?

>>14754799

I played the game on 1999 mode from the on-set. The game wasn't particularly hard, except I was constantly low on resources and enemies were bulletsponges, but I guess that was to be expected. The "Big Daddies" (whatever those robot dudes were) were absolute assholes. I think there were 3 of those fights, one I fought legitimately and barely got out of the fight alive, the second I glitch killed with one electric blast to the chest, and the third I had to cheese by running around an arena, while turning around to shoot 2 bullets into his chest before turning tail and running again.

I also agree that Songbird was an immense let-down. It was

the only thing I was looking forward to halfway through the game. After all that fucking build-up, its just ANOTHER fucking arena moment before you get a cutscene. That is not how you fucking handle bosses, Jesus Christ.

The choices not mattering was probably the developer's idea of le ebin meta commentary that tied into their oh-so-awesome string theory story. The story was probably the weakest motherfucking aspect of the game. If you take a look at the video I posted, you can see that they have the theme and the game nailed down. Then when it came out, it felt like it was unsure what it wanted to be.

>>14754833

They had to cover up her cleavage, too. Not for your eyes you disgusting CIS scum, now babysit this empowered womyn through the game.

>>14754877

I'm pretty sure her outfit changes throughout the game, and she has her corset on at the end.

>>14754884

Her bust is still smaller.

>>14754833

Dead Rising 2 was more about using the kid as a time limit than acting out a parental fantasy.

>>14754928

It also knew the kid's fucking place and told her to sit the fuck down instead of going to fight zombies with her dad.

>>14754931

I wish the game would let you kill her.

>>14754928

The first game managed to do the exact same thing without resorting to using an emotional bait character that does nothing but turn the protagonist into a schizophrenic that seems to have been written by three different people. That being said, it's still better than having the main character be both a plot device and a retcon like the third game.

>>14648225

>tfw no large tiddie Liz

Delet ur company.

>>14648225

Flat Elizabeth is better tbh fam.

>>14763872

>>>/hebe/

>>14770212

Board got nuked by jim remember.

>>14772511

(((Jim)))