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>>370063

>>1370063

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>>14639647

>▶Anonymous (You) 04/14/18 (Sat) 13:34:36 No.370063[Watch Thread][Show All Posts]

Is the bot losing it?

>Graphics are better though.

Hahaha, get some better bait programmed.

>>14639647

Anon, did you not hear about all the shit with Diablo 3 when it launched? How did you miss that? It was one of the biggest vidya clusterfucks of 2012.

>>14639659

He was just copy-pasting something he posted on /tg/ and accidentally copied the header as well.

>>14639667

Yes well, it was 6 years later and a huge 90% price drop so I thought they'd have fixed most of the shit by now.

>>14639674

lol starcraft 2 came out 8 years ago and they murdered that game so hard they're reselling the original game with improved graphics and extra bugs.

>>14639674

Blizzard has lost all capability to identify good game design decisions, let alone implement them. You wasted your money and your time.

>>14639714

>ad and malware infested freeware

lol no

>>14639724

10 bux is not a waste.

>>14639706

Brood Wars was still more popular a few months after Starcraft 2 was released coz the new game hype died down and still is. If you don't believe me just lookup the afreeca or twitch streams at +7-+10 GMT when the asians are playing.

>>14639647

Wether you like it or not everyone is playing Path of Exile now.

>>14639742

>ad and malware infested freeware

What? If you're gonna give a reason, don't make up lies. Are you a child?

>>14639953

Ahaha, fuck you, it's paid. The main criticism of the game for me. Anything that's not junk visually is either a unique you'll never use or paid cosmetics.

>>14639973

Shit. Aint reinstalling it for that.

>>14639714

>game where you need to spend 800 hours autistically learning every aspect and the infinite possible combinations on the skill tree just to theory craft for another 800 hours on how to funnel everything into 1 ability to play a right clicking simulator on a clunky broken engine in a washed out world that makes your eyes bleed

I'll never understand why people like PoE. I despise blizzard in every way but Diablo 3 after the 2.0 patch is the only fun I've ever had in an ARPG. There's nothing difficult or fun about PoE, it's all just autism. I refuse to play Diablo 3 these days because I don't want to touch anything with blizzard's name on it, but in my experience it's a lot more of an enjoyable grinding game than PoE was.

I'm legitimately convinced the only people who enjoy PoE are paid shills taking advantage of the fact that the ARPG market is a clusterfuck due to blizzard's incompetence.

>>14640049

Shoo

>>14640154

Hardly, I've poop socked D2 ladders for years.

>>14640174

Bullshit. You can't go from posting that Diablo 3 is the only fun you've had in an ARPG then claim you've played Diablo 2, those are mutually exclusive statements.

I played Diablo 1 and it was really good, but I'm not getting the same enjoyment out of Diablo 2. I got to act 2 and dropped it, I fucking hate desert levels, there's no such thing as a good desert level.

>>14639949

https://www.trendmicro.com/vinfo/us/security/news/cybercrime-and-digital-threats/league-of-legends-path-of-exile-released-with-data-stealing-malware

https://us.battle.net/forums/en/d3/topic/15699456874

Enjoy being spied on by China and Russia lol

>>14640339

>Taiwanese versions of installers

I'm not taiwanese.

>>14640424

>/v/ is too casual for this.

<2 stats to choose between on level up

<a billion damage stats that function identically

<game boils down to just stacking 2 damages types and your build will just work

<layers and layers of identical garbage particle effects thanks in part to all the toggle and forget skills and the fact that all the (identical) damage types come with their own (identical) dot proc

<top skills are mostly damage toggles/buffs

<you have to pay for this

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>>14640424

I played it. Started really promising but it felt a bit off when you left the village to the outpost. The game felt really disjointed for some reason, probably because of the story pacing being awful, therefore my motivation to keep playing wasn't really there. There was no proper hub-world, there wasn't a proper "ending" and it just fizzled. "You killed the Elder God thing that was threatening to destroy the world, good job! Now wait for the expansion!" Fuck you. Really killed the replay value for me. inb4 hurrdurr story in diablo-likes

I got really fucking annoyed by the crystal enemies too, like jesus fuck enough with these glowing faggots. What really pissed me off about fighting them were the constant motherfucking damage tiles, and they CREATE damage tiles on death too. Doesn't help that they are constant enemies for a good half of the game. The first few groups already overstayed their welcome. They were not fun to fight, at all.

This may seem like an autistic gripe, but I hate how every enemy goes ragdoll-limp when they die. I would understand if every once in a while they go limp, but it's every time or they just explode. Lack of dying animations just sucks.

The game has lots of room for builds, but fuck me, the enemies suck, the story sucks and the motivation to keep playing isn't there. I played through the game as an occultist with eyeballs surrounding me, and it was pretty fun all things considered. I did my damndest to like this game, but it just kept kicking me in the balls every step of the way.

>>14640442

>meanwhile in POE

>1 stat to choose between on level up

>a billion skills that function identically

>game boils down to just stacking 1 skill gem type and your build will just work

>layers and layers of patches upon patches to make netcode not suck but it still sucks

>top skills are aoe attacks that all look the same

>economy based on trading where you need to buy slots for materials you trade for real money

>ARPG about gearing where all not-shitty looking gear skins can only be bought with real money

>single player game that you have to be connected to the internet in order to even play

<shit's free lol

>meanwhile in D3

>0 stat to choose between on level up

>a handful damage stats and abilities that function identically

>game boils down to selecting one build out of a few premades by devs and it will just work

>layers and layers of patches upon patches to make netcode and itemization not suck but it still sucks

>single player game that you HAVE PAID FOR have to be connected to the internet in order to even play

>AAA game that looks and plays worse than torchlight 1

>even after half decade of patches

My point stands, GD is still too hardcore compared to those turds.

>>14640453

>I'm too lazy to run out of damage zone

>game about builds where I can make a lot of builds doesn't give me motivation to play it because I'm too lazy to run out of damage zone

>hurrdurr story in diablo-likes

>>14640469

Hey faggot, the only time anyone ever talks about d3 is to shit on it (outside of the occasional lost redditor). The only reason anyone gives a shit about PoE is because it's free. You can cry all night and day about how your favorite shit game is better than the competition, but at the end of the day, people will rather play a shit game for free than pay for it.

I'm not even going to bother with calling out your bullshit. You're only here to promote your shit game.

>>14640481

Nice goalposts moving.

Also unsage.

>>14640488

Nice nonargument. I never said either game was better than Grim Dawn, only that grim dawn sucked and nobody talking about had nothing to do with /v/ being too casual. Go market your game in >>>/reddit/

>>14640492

>doubling down

Unsage

u

>>14640469

<I'm too lazy to run out of damage zone

They are fucking everywhere, doesn't, matter where you fucking run. Very easy to accidentally walk into them since the zones are pretty vague at times, sometimes it looks like you are only being near a zone and it STILL damages you. Not to mention some parts require you to walk through that shit, god damn.

<game about builds where I can make a lot of builds doesn't give me motivation to play it because I'm too lazy to run out of damage zone

There is no motivation to try builds because the levels, enemies and STORY are wholly uninteresting. The levels and dungeons are a fucking slog, each and every last one of them. Fighting crystal faggots from nearly the very start till the end got really boring, really fucking fast.

<hurrdurr story in diablo-likes

Yes motherfucker, story. Not only did the game "end" without any fanfare, the actual end takes place in the expansion.

>>14640505

>>14640504

Thank you both for proving my point.

>>14640510

That means you'll be going back to reddit, right?

>>14640505

You fight those crystal faggots only in the beginning and a bit near the end. The expansion is another story, but that's it for the base game.

I would rather understand it if you'd complain about fighting C'thonians for the entire latter half of the game.

You can easily avoid the damaging areas, and for the few optional quests you have to cross them, just use the aether clusters you get from destroying crystals. It's really not that hard.

You killed a fucking elder god, what more do you want? And you should now by now that the story in those games are just a means to send you from one area to another to kill more shit.

>>14640469

Faggot, he's saying the game is not hardcore, not defending the other pieces of shit.

Strawmaning is not a counter-argument.

>>14640520

So I guess you won't then. We still aren't going to play your shit game, brony.

>>14640341

I'm pretty sure the entire point of the post is that PoE isn't actually a difficult game and that the depth to it is completely artificial once you really get into it.

>>14640528

>being this anally annihilated

>>14640524

When some booty bothered cuck can't even come up with proper argument and start randomly call people bronies you know for a fact that game with just 2 stats to choose from on level up is too hard for him.

>>14639647

adsfghadsfghadsfghadsfghadsfghadsfgha

>Diablo 3

>WoWified graphics

>Tyrael is a nigger

>So much mana you never actualy hit anyone with your weapon

>Wizard is twin stick shooter

>13+ difficulties you actualy need to increase to get SOME challenge for 5-6 levels until it because stupidly easy again

Blizz fuck up

>>14640556

You sure have time to google up images of the game triggered you this much.

>>14640557

Accept the responsibility.

>>14640557

I can understand someone not liking a game, but reasons like "I'm too slow to get out of damage effects" or "The story isn't very exciting" are just bullshit.

>>14640557

I'll stop, for your sake. Just know that everytime anyone talks about any PoE or GD there will always be someone whining about how not enough people talk about it.

>>14640522

The C'thonians were actually a nice change and were actually fun to kill. The story is something that gives SOME sort of context to a game. I don't mean to say that it should have had some godly excellent writing or whatever, but to at least have something meaningful in it to make the effort seem worthwhile.

You may see it as ridiculous, but I can't enjoy a game that does this shit. I don't want to compare this to other games, but at the very least, Torchlight 2, D2, and Titan Quest had proper pacing, world-building and story, no matter how cheesy or bland, to make the experience more than clicking on shit to make it die. GD doesn't even have that. The game just puts you into the final boss fight, then it's over. No congratulations, no nothing, except for one character who half-heartedly comments on the big bad dying like it was some trivial bullshit to stop the mother of all elder beings. Like with all pieces of media, a game needs to have a proper beginning and end. You can't do a lazy cop-out like that.

Like I said earlier, the game is a slog, through and through. As I was reaching the end I wasn't looking forward to new playthroughs like I do with other diablo-likes. The enemies sucked, dungeons sucked, everything felt like a chore. I realize the gameplay is the main thing about these games, but GD just sucked in that aspect and it wasn't fun to play. I have enjoyed every other game like this, GD was the only exception.

>>14640569

Fuck you.

>>14640049

>game where you need to spend 800 hours autistically learning every aspect and the infinite possible combinations on the skill tree

that's your problem if you are retarded and need that much time

>>14640587

I guess it just isn't for you then, but at least you gave it a play.

And fuck you too, for whatever reason.

>>14640592

When it becomes infinitely more productive to just copy the cookie cutter builds on the forums because of how autistic the talent tree and class mechanics are designed you know your game is fundamentally flawed.

>hue hue clicking health nodes every time i level up is engaging

I don't know why people ever compare these heaping pile of shit to D2.

>>14640654

>pretending like people don't constantly compare d2 and poe

>doesn't respond to a single point and can only sling adhom bullshit

Yup, it's a goon.

>>14640666

No, look at the posting style - it's a huenigger.

I got Diablo 3 on my ps4 as a gift and I platinumed it.

It was a fun grinding game and couch coop is nice to have.

>>14639647

D3 was best when it first released. Inferno difficulty was a true challenge simply because of how dangerous the enemies were. Since then they might have added more variety in how you can build your character with items and made getting those items yourself the primary focus, but there's no longer anything truly interesting to do with those items anymore. The difficulty is now a slow configurable ramp up where there's little incentive to even try to play the highest difficulties

This thread reads exactly like PoE Global

>>14640654

>I can't read and I must project

Poor child.

>>14640713

This thread is exactly why F2P is cancer and why Hue and Slavniggers should be nuked.

>>14640703

>Inferno difficulty was a true challenge simply because of how dangerous the enemies were.

No it wasn't. It was a deliberately untested mess that people beat anyway because of equally untested shit balance.

>>14640703

I understand where you're coming from, but it was not a good game, just a ""difficult"" one. The RMT AH was the best way to gear, which was also plagued by bots. It was a massive clusterfuck.

The "casualization" of D3 with loot 2.0 and the additions made with the new expansion in general turned it into a fully fleshed out game. Unfortunately it quickly reached its peak and they stopped putting resources into it once they realised that their F2P cash grab games were making them an absolutely fucking ridiculous amount of money and that developing real games was a complete waste of time. So PoE surpassed it because its pay model manages to be even more jewey than even blizzard to continue proper development.

>>14640734

Untested maybe, but it was hard as fuck for a number of reasons. Beating it at all, especially without using the RMAH was quite an accomplishment. The game up to that point wasn't necessarily good, but at least it had something worth doing.

>>14640751

I always found it weird that Diablo 3 is somehow a worse game for being less of a meth addict exploitation game. Very odd priorities, but I guess that's what happens when you fall into the skinnerbox, you just want a better hit.

>>14640755

There is no "Maybe". The devs took the stats from Hell difficulty or whatever the one below Inferno was called and doubled all the numbers.

>>14639937

No i know BW is the more popular game. That's why they "remastered" it to bank on the popularity of that game since SC2 was, and still is, a pile of shit. The remastered version was released broken as fuck and had a bunch of new bugs never before seen. It's still got some issues. At least they did the right thing and made the original BW free, could have continued to charge for that.

>>14640791

If that's what it takes to create a challenging single-player experience instead of the focus tested garbage we normally get, so be it.

>>14641131

You just described the entire genre.

>>14641234

Except PoE exacerbates the problems of the genre without adding anything new besides a F2P price tag for third worlders.

>>14641241

It's not like third worlders couldn't play all other diablo clones for free.

I even saw Diablo 3 server emulators so you can connect to yourself and play.

Problem with POE is that you have to pay to look good. Or at least to have goddamn pants on.

Big fan of grim dawn. Tried PoE as much as I can and after 40+ hours everything about what makes a good diablo clone just felt off with that game. Grim dawn still offers thousands of hours of play time but I never had to deal with heavy grinding to enjoy the endgame unlike PoE. You could max out a character and get semi-decent gear with all the legendaries you hoarded, maybe some MI's if you got em and you can play through all the content no problem. Huge build variety I fuckin love that as well. Just real easy to progress through and get lots of fun out of the game.

To any PoE players in here, what do you enjoy about it the the most? What's there to do for a character in the late game?

>>14641296

One thing I'd say POE has going on for it is audio-visual feedback. It's a lot more satisfying to smack monsters in there than in GD.

It also has global chat mmo appeal, that a lot of people like and prioritize over gameplay.

>>14641321

Too bad it does loot worse than every other ARPG out there

>>14641327

What? Poe? Poe does great, sometimes getting into steam's top ten played game, which is pretty good for f2p pve game.

Like it or not, it's very successful for what it is.

>>14641332

Its popularity is irrelevant to its terrible loot system.

>>14641354

I thought you meant "doing good" as in doing good financially.

Yeah POE is pretty shit all things considered. If it was regular game without mmo elements, but with everything else intact it wouldn't be nearly as successful.

>>14641362

It'd be near unplayable if it didn't have the online aspect. The loot system is entirely based around trading and a handful of good things compared to mounds and mounds of useless shit

>>14640713

It's a shill thread.

Diablo 3 is actually a ton of fun.

>>14640049

No-taste niggers feel free to leave, or at least play Diablo 1.

>>14640183

This.

>>14640336

superior taste, diablo 1 was best diablo

>>14649165

The best thing Diablo 1 had going for it was that character progression was free-form. You could use whatever you had the stats to equip or learn.

I think too many ARPG's are getting slotted into this mentality of everything being class bases.

lol

I like torchlight 2, um despite how this thread kind flew into a plane crash into a train crash, thanks for reminding me that I should pick it up again I also got the Synergies mod in full and my game is more stable now that I know what I am doing. I think torchlight 2 is a great game honestly I like the way everything feels and handles presentation is important.

>>14649565

still worse than legends and dark legacy.

>Torchlight 2

>can't change difficulties

>completely retarded respec system

>engineer and bolt embermage can easily gib bosses

>berserker and outlander's best builds are complete shit

>any good skill homes in or is a laser

>everything is based off DPS instead of weapon damage

>limoany skulls or bust

>sockets>>>any other stat

It could be worse, but the number of inept decisions in that game is amazing.

>>14649565

Dark Legacy works well in Dolphin netplay.

>>14649563

No other game allows me to play with my penis while I play with my game

PoE feels samey these days, since most skill gems are unbalanced you're shoehorned into 1 of 10 different builds, and even then every build comes down to 1 of 2 things. Can it clear fast or can it kill bosses well? Sure you can run memey things but the way IIQ is these days and how map droprates are, there is no reason not to run whatever is flavor of the month/streamer builds unless you want to end up spending more time in maps for the same result. I doubt GGG will ever do anything new except slap a mediocre map mod onto their base game and call it new "content".

>>14649740

>>14649993

I've already played Dark Legacy. I just want to know if I should bother with the other one.

>>14650123

only if you hated having actual levels to go through. nugauntlet is all random generation.