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I wanna marry a nice lizardman :3

>>14581799

What's the word on hats spawning in lesser difficulties?

What do you expect from the team that's more concerned about Steam integration than actually having a properly functioning game?

They better fix it, or I can see the player base plummeting.

>>14581963

I mmean Twitch, my bad.

>>14581799

Lucky you. I must have opened a 100+ fucking commendation boxes to try and get foot knight kruber's cosmetic. I did get an early red trinket though with 33% curse resistance which artificially boosted the power level of my non-mains though.

Any advise or guide to choose skill? For example, what skills are recommended for like Ironbreaker? Is obtaining 10 health point when you absorb damage worth it?

>>14582496

>Is obtaining 10 health point when you absorb damage worth it?

no its 10 temporary health, get the skill cooldown that takes gromnil armor from 20 seconds to 13, absorbing a hit more often is way more useful.

>>14582496

Think about how you play, then pick the things that support that style of play. This shouldn't be that hard for you.

What's trash about the patch exactly? I opted into the beta for a couple of games, and was too busy marveling at my executioner's greatsword no longer having broken hitboxes to really notice any significant changes.

>>14582579

hi Fatshark. If you can't see it yet you're doomed. Basically, halving the damage and cleave from power levels is stupid and does the opposite, rather than making game more melee-focused with possible diverse choices it forces you into the same roles even more, because others find it harder to compete as there's less of a leeway.

i wanna fuck an elf ladyboy

>>14582595

Jesus did you miss every thread besides this one? Go check the catalog / google their forums you lazy shit.

>>14582579

tl;dr short-sighted reactionaries

People hate it because it undid the past month of balancing and they for some reason think the first patch is the end result instead of the start of another full month of balancing. Some people hate it because some other things they were working on made it into the first patch and they think that is where all their manpower is being spent. They all forget how long it took VT1 to become relatively stabilized from the mess it started out as.

>>14582614

>all this implying

Ranged is OP as fuck and the where we start balancing it is by taking a giant shit on the hero power of anyone playing champ / legend? You think thats a good place to start balancing?

You're a dumb motherfucker.

>>14582627

You know the patch was to fix hero power not working correctly, right? They balanced everything around two completely different builds for a month without realizing it, so of course shit will be fucked when they start trying to fix it. It doesn't matter what I think is a good place to start fixing it is, the simple truth is that shits fucked now and its going to take time for it to get un-fucked, so there's not much point in getting mad like this is how it will be forever.

Doing Slayer after playing Ironbreaker for so long. Im not grtting it yet. How one should play Slayer? Weapons? Talents?

>>14582759

the slayers leap makes jumping puzzles for grims easier, other than that ironbreaker is the way to go

>>14582763

How exactly are they fucking up? The game was developed around a missing part, they added that part and things broke, now they are rebuilding everything around it. I mean, yeah they fucked up by spending all this time without a core mechanic being implemented properly, but their course of action and current results are perfectly reasonable for trying to fix something like this. And how exactly am I a contrarian idiot when you say the exact same things I did? - that people are assuming this is the intended result and will be pushed out as is, ignoring the fact that they need to give feedback and that it will take time for things to get back to a playable state. It is a perfectly acceptable position to take in this situation. You call me an idiot for this, but for me the idiots are the ones getting far too mad and saying the patch - and by effect the fixed power mechanic - needs to be reverted solely because the current state is undesirable, rather than giving input on the official forums as to how they should proceed with re-fixing the balance.

>>14582759

Most important thing is to not give in to the berserker style that it encourages. Play smart, stick behind your tanks, jump responsibly. I've enjoyed dual axes and great hammer, and have heard good things about 1-hammer, but I've not got around to trying it yet. That was pre-patch though so fuck if I know what weapons to use now.

What's wrong with the patch? I'm behind on this news

>>14582759

Slayer is the most fun out of all the classes/characters. Just remember that your aim is a glorious death in combat to redeem your honour. Don't listen to crybaby elves and faggot humans. They'll try and hold you back so that they can live, like the pussies they are. You don't want to live. You want to die killing the boss. You aren't a pussy. You are a whirling ball of edged death with an orange mohawk.

>>14582661

>getting mad like this is how it will be forever.

I dont know why you keep on insisting with this projection, nobodys claiming this.

Some weapons and careers are basicly useless as it is and the beta patch just makes them totally worthless, whats there to test? That fatshark fucked up? Yeah well we allready know that.

Before the problem was found nobody was complaining that the hero power needs to be reduced, theres no reason to test it after the "fix" without bringing it up to the level of how it is now on the version the players are playing.

Atleast the people complaining have a real reason to be mad, shits fucked. You're mad because of reasons you keep projecting on others and shit only you said.

>>14582661

>they balanced everything around two completely different builds

Oh, so they're completely incompetent and unable to do their jobs?

>it will get better!

Why, have all the idiots been fired? Or did they just pinkie swear promise they wont be complete idiots again in the future?

>>14583034

>You're mad because of reasons you keep projecting on others and shit only you said.

You mean the thing I said only once to emphasize a high degree of anger?

I'm not mad, just extremely bored. All my friends quit playing before the patch and I don't want to play alone or with bots/pubs. I'm just waiting for all this balance shit to be done and over with and some new maps and mod tools to be released.

>>14582614

>>14582661

>>14583081

>they for some reason think the first patch is the end result

>not much point in getting mad like this is how it will be forever

Thats two by my count and its still just you projecting.

The thing is its pretty concerning the devs dont realize its not worth even testing the fix without bumping the hero power scaling to the live versions level. Most weapons are fine, some are overperforming wildly like ranged weapons but others really arent that much.

>>14581818

Hats come from commendation boxes ONLY. It doesn't matter what difficulty

>>14583109

The first was meant as the end result of their attempts to fix their fuck up, though I can see how it can be interpreted otherwise. I don't see how it is projecting though when I've seen people say that the patch was a mistake and should be reverted, which very clearly implies they think it is the end result of their fix instead of the start. Solving a problem of this magnitude is rarely ever so simple. It took them over a month just to fix the talents and find the problem, solving it in a week would be a miracle even by God's standards.

>>14583149

>which very clearly implies they think it is the end result

>A change is made

>People think its crap and want it reversed

>This means they think its permanent

No it implies they think the change is shit and takes the game in a worse direction than it was.

You ok? Your reading comprehension / logic needs some work.

>>14583203

It isn't just a simple change though, its the introduction of a missing core mechanic when the entire game was made around it both existing and not existing. To revert it would be to break the game again simply because the broken state is currently more desirable than the first step of a fixed state. You are saying my reading comprehension needs work when I've had to repeat myself multiple times. Shit wont get fixed overnight and fixing something this vital always means breaking things for a while. Yeah it takes things in the wrong direction for now, but that is why you guide it into the right direction instead of going backwards.

>>14583279

Ranger isn't/wasn't too bad with the right setup. I played him with increased speed, healing, ammo drops +on crit, using a grudge raker and it felt very much like playing Hexen with good ol' super shotty. Him and Slayer still could use something to bring them up to IB, because its just way too good compared to the other two and I believe in buffing weak things up for balance instead of nerfing fun things down.

>>14583128

What? That can't be true. Commendation chests are finite.

>>14583477

I cannot confirm or deny his claim, but chests are infinite. Once you hit 30 you start getting +levels solely for getting more chests and bragging about how much of a cool dude you are.

>>14583279

>Is there a lore reason why drakefire pistols are exclusive to Ironbreaker?

Yes.

Ironbreakers are the guys that man the inner gates of a dwarf hold, IE where the abandoned tunnels are. As such they have the toughest armor (as in toughest in the entire lore) and are trained to fight in close formations.

Ironbreakers specialists, called Irondrakes use short ranged heavy weapons Drakeguns (essentially plasma gun or hellguns), Trollhammer Torpedo launchers (rocket launchers), cinderblast bombs (proper high damage grenades, "Geballte Ladung" german pack of stick grenade-style) and drake pistols (plasma pistol).

The big drake guns aren't flame throwers, that's rickety skaven/imperial tech, they fire bolts of flames like the pistols, but the key point is it's shit for close combat and either should lose power over distance or should be inaccurate as fuck.

Rangers in the meanwhile are the guys that guards the outside of a hold, scout and roam around really rather than patrol. They ambush or counter ambush, pick straglers surprise attack monsters, use poison, etc…

Ironbreakers are well respected, well trained, well armed, well disciplined, elite dawi soldiers. Rangers are dwarwen literal murder-hobos and treated as such.

>>14581714

why is the elf babe TM Scottish?

>>14583706

at this point i really just want a dorf squad game where you hunt down knife ear scum, or burn goblins in their stinking goblin holes.

>>14583766

>>14583755

I wish that swedish fuck would make a third Ravandil video just so we can get more Urist banter.

>>14583815

We need a mod that lets you play multiple of the same character and class. 4 IBs would make me moist for the rest of my life.

>trying to level up my dwarf (at 5) and getting matched with level 20-30s in veteran quickmatch

this is anti-fun i don't even get to kill anything

>>14584473

Instead of quick match, try going to the lobby browser and picking a game in progress. It might not help with your issue of getting carried, but at least you have a better chance of joining a game that's almost finished for faster XP

>>14584719

I had relative success on champion runs with kruber around 15+ to 20 but trying them before level 10 as a dwarf ended in absolute failure so I went back to vet.

Is it true you should hold on to your commendation chests till level cap?>

>>14583835

The Swedish fuck takes long enough with the TTS stuff, I mean it's been fucking months since the last one.

I'd rather he work on that rather than fucking Ravandil.

>>14584999

>All classes have cool roles and are viable

Stopped reading right there.

>>14584999

>>Game Plagued by brain dead faggots who can't even block revive

I might be one of those braindeads, I haven't heard of block revives yet, I haven't dumped a ton of hours in yet though

>>14585050

after you start to revive by holding E you can then hold right click and block while reviving

>>14585188

Assuming your melee weapon is equipped of course. Sounds obvious but some people…

>>14585214

Could be worse, he could leave you hanging that much away from Emps.

>>14585386

But isn't it ironic how she calls everyone a nigger then has to beg them for help but still calls them niggers while doing so?

>>14585386

The biggest reason I didn't buy the game after playing it way too much during the betas was Kerillians. She is a fucking annoying cunt and listening to her bullshit whining just left me annoyed and angry, angry about elves.

>>14585386

Yes, she should be banned for toxic behavior so Vermintide 2 can be a safe experience for everyone. :^)

>screaming bell

>kruber doesn't know what my drakegun is

>elf mouthbreather "PISTOLS ARE BETTER MUH ARMOR

>"I can make hordes trivial with the drakegun and manmode two rothelms with the shieldaxe, what about you?" t. myself

>have tome and grimoire already

>"DWARF COME BACK HERE PICK UP THE GRIM"

>…..

>"FINE NO GRIM THEN"

>fucking what

>speedrun bell

>sit by door to gtfo

>rat ogre, another one, already.

>shoved down there by rats

>"DWARF WHY DID YOU JUMP DOWN"

>kruber jumps in to spitroast the ogre with me

>lolno elf player decides to jump in, gets pinned to corner by rat ogre

>sienna sits up top and just stands there watching us, gets downed by like 6 normal skaven rather than jump down or even defend herself/shoot the ogre

>by the time krueber is finalyl downed to rat hordes and my drake gun is too overheated, the ogres nearly dead

>would have died if sienna and elf werent retarded

>"WHY DID YOU THROW DWARF". t elf

>"quite literally" t. sienna

>they disconnect rather than get their loot drop.

>full retard, accomplished

Holy fucking shit I love these people, you make a silly choice, and slip up, and then your teammates bitch and whine that its YOUR fault when they go and be even MORE retarded, had krueber and me just continued spitroasting the ogre and sienn-elf actually done any damage it would have been zero issue.

>>14585961

Pistols make hordes even more trivial than the flamethrower. Alt fire on the pistols does everything the flamethrower does but without the need to charge up (and risk interruption) first

>>14585961

>flamethrower dwarf

kinda deserved it to be honest

Why is the flamestorm staff so amazing on late game? This thing turned from hot garbage into the wrath of Aqshy the moment I got a second anti-chaos acc and the exhaust trait

>>14586167

Sounds breddy good actually. I always found it a bit on meh side of things, not least because you light attack have all the worth of a hot fart for anything more than 2 meters away from you.

But if they made up for that I would gladly try it.

>>14586167

I tried the flamestorm once, I was never glad to be kind of good at crowd clearing in exchange for doing shit-all damage to specials even on vet. And the beam is perfectly good at crowd clearing so, you know.

>>14586187

Yeah the light attack is shit, but the charged shot? Boy that thing deletes entire champion hordes and most specials in one sweep, and also nearly instantly charges up your entire skill bar so you can exhaust on pyromancer for an extra burst of damage and continue shitting fire almost indefinitely.

The big downside is no range and kinda terrible for bosses, but it's still the strongest horde clearer currently

>Playing champion last night on convocation of decay

>Reach the bridge just before the drop to the ritual room

>Group gets attacked by 6 disablers at once

>Stuck in place for another 30 seconds after that killing off a never ending trickle of specials

Can you tell when a team mate is streaming on twitch, or did we just have bad luck? Think we got attacked by two hordes, a patrol, and a Chaos spawn all at once on another nap too.

>>14585044

Ignorance is bliss after all

>>14586214

Theres an icon in the bottom right corner and frequent large popups in the bottom middle of the screen when playing twitch mode. You absolutely would know if you were or not. Twitch mode cannot be enabled in quick play though so you will never experience it unless you want to.

>>14586226

Oh, okay. So it was just bad luck. At least I most likely won't be running into twitch players then.

>>14582759

step 1: DORF

step 2: DORF MORE

when your ability is ready

step 3: DOOOOOOOORF

>>14585972

I have tried both and found the pistols secondary fire lacking against hordes and even an entire black rat patrol compared to the drakeguns alt fire. and to top it all of its fun, now that i'm in the champ ranking I find it easy to not burn out my teammates with it meanwhile the drake pistols have mystical teammates-children-seeking 60 round bumpstock clipazine seeking AOE that doesn't actually harm enemies in the same radius. in the same heat generation it takes to knock out a champion sized horde with the pistols I can kill four of that size with the drake guns altfire.

>>14585972

Nah flamethrower still handles hordes way better than pistols, but pistols give you flexibility since when you run flamethrower you gotta use the 1 handed axe which most people aren't fans of. With the pistols you can keep using the OP 2h mallet.

>>14584999

>>All classes have cool roles and are viable

LOL

no

>>14586386

another benefit of the drakegun is that it staggers everything except the bosses, so you can stop the stab rat midair or stagger the grab rat and even hold a full stormrat patrol in place. >>14586974

>but pistols give you flexibility since when you run flamethrower you gotta use the 1 handed axe which most people aren't fans of

what are you talking about? i run drakegun and 2h axe as iron breaker

if anything i feel the dwarf ranger really needs to have its skill tree redone. its barely viable at lvl20 with temp health, but even then the only viable option is the grudge raker which is useless against the 2 armored stage bosses. you dont get enough ammo with the dwarf rifle or crossbow and filthy knife ears seem to autograb the ammo drops immediately. add on to the fact that bosses ignore the dwarf smoke and still decide to immediately go for you so you get knock out of the smoke and dont get to use the damage bonus for long.

>>14587215

2h axe is worse than the mallet in every concievable way.

>>14587259

it had great single-armored-target dps in vt1, now it just sucks with the bigger hordes

>>14585188

thanks, I'll remember that now, usually when i go for revive i push bash whatever cunts are hanging on the ally before going for it

>>14587259

I agree, though I am having trouble pinpointing exactly why that is.

I do remember some ghost-swings with it but I know there is more.

>>14587508

I can tell you exactly why it sucks compared to the hammer. The hammer has better cleave and wider swings than the axe. Not to mention you can get like 2 swings of the hammer for one swing of the axe. The axe also doesn't break shields in one hit which the hammer does with one normal attack. The charged attack on the axe is also worse than the hammer. Basically there is no reason to use anything other than the 2h mallet since gunners are almost never alive for more than a moment and if you are using the flamethrower then you know you gotta use the 1h axe for optimal single target damage.

>>14587587

You are talking about 2h weapons, right? Then hammer is best one, IMO. But when talking about 1h, yeah, the 1h axe is good because of damage and armor penetration. It requires some precision, and to be ready to fight hordes with shield bash & drake weapons. But its good, and better than 1h hammer.

>>14587754

Yeah 2h hammer is the weapon every dwarf should be using unless they are using the drakegun in which case they should use the 1h axe since you have hordes covered and you need the single target damage.

Talking about weapons, with Saltzpyre's bountyHunter, what weapon do you prefer? 1h Flail, Falchion, or Rapier? Or 2H? I prefer at the moment the flail, with its wide attacks, powerfull strike to one player too, and its ability to fuck shields.

>>14587939

I always go with falchion myself, great damage, cleave, and fucks anything armored.

What the fuck is Kruber's role supposed to be? He seems to be built to be the crowd control sort but Sienna can do that far better, just like how Saltz is a far better shooter and Bardin is 100 times the tank he is

>>14587968

He's a second tank, that's all. His charge has a lot of utility usage. It can be used to stun a boss or create space to revive someone and with the unlimited block talent I'd say that it's better than Bardin's skill even if Bardin is better overall. If you can sacrifice a shield (questionable as a main tank) he also has the best melee weapon in the game, his Halberd, being uniquely effective for both horde clearing and armor piercing. It comes at the cost of having the worst selection of ranged weapons in the game however.

>>14587968

Being the coolest guy on the team :^)

As a Kruber main, even I don't really know. He seems to be intended as a support kinda character, with all three of his career skills providing some kind of passive buff aura.

>>14588002

I've never used a shield on Kruber, terrible moveset on any of the shield combos and you really don't need the extra stamina considering he's already got sufficient to work with, could always just equip a trinket that gives you extra stamina if you REALLY need more. I also only really use halberd on mercenary kruber, because along with paced strikes you become a whirling death machine. On FK, and even sometimes on mercenary, I use 2H hammer because it utterly fucks anything armored and the charged attacks are the best horde clearing attacks bar none. Huntsman isn't a bad career either, giving everyone around him increased crit chance, and he still deals with elites, specials and bosses pretty well, he just gets overshadowed by other careers that shit out damage with "I Win" buttons. Overall, I'd say he's the most balanced character of the bunch, there's a viable reason for picking any of his careers. Meanwhile, you won't see Saltz players on anything but BH, or Sienna players on anything but Pyro, for example.

>>14588087

Pretty sure Zealot would get picked more if his skill wasn't so crap. A berserker specializing in being super low health and surviving is cool, it's just that beyond that idea he doesn't actually bring anything to the table.

Also I'd play Huntsman more if his signature longbow wasn't so utterly shit.

>>14588058

pretty sure a sienna could just oneshot an ironbreaker though

>>14581714

What difficulty drops clothes?

>>14589212

Wrong.

>Saltzpyre is 8ch

>Kruber is 4ch

>Goreksson is RPGCodex

>Kerillian is Reddit

>Sienna is Tumblr

>>14589368

>>Kruber is 4ch

don't talk about kruber like that. He's a stand up guy who works hard not a 15 year old deemed to edgy for reddit.

>>14589393

>being a self-fellating bitter cunt screaming insults at people that don't make any sense outside of her own head. She finds every excuse to make snarky little comments about everyone around her,

She'd get a nice blue good goy checkmark on twitter

>level 11 on my dwarf, feel like i've been getting shit boxes even on good runs

I had asked before but did I get memed when i was told to hold on to commendation chests? Also Despite getting lots of charms I don't use many of them aren't appearing in my crafting menu to salvage, what's the reason behind that?

>>14589393

Of course he plays the game. He mains Kerillian.

Also, Sienna always praises the men and talks about how wet she's getting from all the murder. The only time she talks to the elf is when she calls her a lumberfoot iirc.

Just had an elf shitter unfathomably mad and quit the game on legend for getting shat on by an ambush, globadier, hook-rat and a fire rat.

Just kill the specials, it ain't hard.

When we have an unchained with less special kills than myself as a dwarf with a shotgun, I don't see the reason to be mad at the game. Get mad at the sienna not pulling her weight, and dealing more ff than damage to rats.

>>14589889

the game's main problems are the shitty cowardly pussy players and the directly on top of you spawning enemies

Retarded question. Are the buff that power up power good, even if you are over the limit of the difficulty? The Power stat in V2 still is somewhat hard to understand.

>>14590647

So better to get items that give other buff, right, at least at the moment?

>the most annoying characters in the game are women

I guess not all swedes are cucked.

>>14582496

Get irondrake if you want to actually use the Drake fire pistols.

Anyone got a good DLC unlocker for the first Vermintide? I want to go through the DLC campaigns, but I'm not up for paying

30 dollarydoos for it all.

Lel

>>14590489

Thanks, chief. I have like 20 in the pocket right now but maybe i'll crack open half of them just so i have stuff to salvage

Stormfiend is supposed to be a souped-up Rat Ogre, then why it is such a pushover?

>rarely does melee attacks

>does not have unblockable melee attacks

>spams flamethrower all the time, which is easy to dodge

>weakspot on the back, which means if it aggroes at one player, rest of them can hack away at it from safety

>weakspot is also large and can be hit from the side

It is only dangerous if it is spawned inside a narrow passage or at a tight spot, but so is every other boss.

>>14592295

Yes, even in tight spots in hordes all he does his be a pain in the ass more than a real threat. And god helps you if you don't have ammo and he decides to climb in an unreachable spot and spam you.

>>14592295

Don't forget that its head is also a weakspot so armor piercing projectiles can deal bonus damage from the front or back. Honestly chaos spawn is the only hard boss and thats only because its heal doesn't cap out so if a shit teammate gets grabbed and the potatoes have used their knockbacks then you are in for a longer than needed fight.

>>14592421

Pubs usually kick the shit out of you if you're attempting legend around 20, and with good reason.

>>14584951

No, alfabusa does TTS, Karl the deranged its the one that does revandil.

>>14593309

Any good idea on how to make the bosses harder and more interesting?

>>14594870

The problem of doing any improvement to bosses is that you risk making them frustrating if a horde or specials spawn at the same time. And honestly three of them are simple but effective at the role they have, and bosses were already improved in terms of the unique stage bosses. They are the actual bosses, the others are just peon champions.

The stormfiend however can use some work. The idea behind him is simple - area of effect denial dude who's very vulnerable (and not too punishing) at being struck in the back, requiring teamwork more than a single champion being decked out to melt boss HP as fast as possible. I think it's a fine role on paper but ends up being pretty unexciting to fight, being a waiting game first and foremost.

Instead of huge lingering trails of warpfire, maybe have a telegraphed path which does one-time damage, like amygdala in bloodborne ? I could see it being a pain when a horde is distracting you and you don't have time looking for patterns on the ground, but then again the warpfire kinda does that. Maybe make it so the telegraph can be seen from the edge of your vision so you can at least attempt a lucky dodge.

>>14594894

I know what you mean even plebbit and the forum faggots have realised how just plain fucking broken the spawning system is right now, so any improvements would need to go along with fixing that shit by hard limiting what can be spawned during a boss fight.

Keeping that in mind what do you think could or should be done to make them better?

One thing annoying me is the aggro, sometimes the fuckers will turn mid swing to fuck up the guy behind them while other times they will keep attacking a player until he is stomped into the dirt ignoring anyone around him, no matter the damage dealt. The unreliability of it just fucking kills me.

Also I have never played Bloodborne so I have no idea what you are talking about.

>>14594435

How can you tell? What's the indication for beating it on whatever difficulty levels?

>>14595011

I think it's the gold frames on the levels.

>>14594934

If no chaos warriors and shit can be spawned along a boss then I would say change the aggro system and movement primarily. The system worked when everyone was on more or less equal footing damage wise and aggro was evenly distributed, but in VT2 it's kinda obsolete. The bosses should change targets more often and unpredictably and have more leap attacks, like the rat ogres (charge attacks would probably be bollocks). That way everyone can be invested even if damage is dramatically lopsided to one or two characters, and the damage dealers wouldn't have them in their crosshairs all the time.

>Also I have never played Bloodborne so I have no idea what you are talking about.

I thought it would be easy to find a video demonstrating it simply but it appears people are absolute fucking retards and would rather film the amygdala's head firing the laser than the effect on the ground, so it works like this.

>Step 1, the monster fires a large laser, in a fixed pattern. It leaves a small light trail

>Step 2, the ground erupts strictly following the trail. If you're not on the line you take no damage.

I think it could be a more interesting threat than a wall that's easy as fuck to dodge but traps you in the terrain.

Whelp, 1.05 is out of beta. Supposedly they changed some shit, included Veteran no longer capped at 200. Which raises the question of headgear and good skins being locked to champion or not even further.

Also numerous class tweaks, enemy nerfs, and friendly fire decrease.

http://steamcommunity.com/app/552500/discussions/0/1694917906654979648/

>>14596346

don't worry, mods will fix it

>>14596346

looks like a decent buff for every weak class to me, WHC does get a smaller one though, im more excited to see how the weapon changes affect stuff, plus the changes to kruber make me wonder which class to pick even more, looks like they fixed ranger but then who melees?

Also slayer players are gonna be jerking off hard over this buff they get, looks huge.

Why the fuck are they not addressing multiple and simultaneous elite mobs spawning ontop of each other on higher difficulties. The fact that rot helms can stack ontop of each other is fucked since their shoulderpad hitboxes are the size of fucking square blocks.

>>14585386

>durr mayflies

>durr you live short lives

>I'm eternal

Same as normal tolkien elves, but vocal about it.

>>14596504

>Added an attack intensity threshold of 10 to Legend. This is a limit on the amount of consecutive attacks a player can receive before given a brief grace period to act.

Cant you read? it's not much but it seems to be working as intended according to devs

Retried Shade since she got a usable cooldown now, and yes, it's now more of a usable ability which deals fuckhuge damage to bosses but is still way too situational. I can really only see her being useful on primarily Chaos maps, skaven are too distance for her backstabby shit and are much better dealth with range. But the loads of chaos warriors on champion could make use of her, maybe.

Also, at least they're clear with Handmaiden being the tank class now.

>>14596552

I assumed that was for the one where you block hits without having any shields and are stopped for a second or two, since you can get locked up in that if enemies keep hitting you as you recover from the last blocked hit.

>>14596872

Well that is because for some fucked up reason she is suddenly able to become a dark elf scout.

>>14596552

Oh I read, and that will help a smidge, but it is mostly a worthless change.

also why is there so much weird porn when you look up vermintide of elves being fucked by skaven

>>14598143

>spoiler

She's pretty much the group's Tsundere (which are pretty much assholes); she actually likes the group, but due to either pride or shyness, gives them shit even when trying to compliment the members.

>>14598287

I try to do my best to act as the team's healer of sorts when playing Kerillian, sticking with Waystalker for healing myself and giving other members healing items since I can heal over time. Also do my best to save/revive members over glory kills if possible.

>>14598333

>Well that is because for some fucked up reason she is suddenly able to become a dark elf scout.

Guess they needed some bullshit excuse to use different classes for characters. Makes as much if not more sense than what Age of Shitmar did.

>>14598143

>Also if you listen to the lines Kerillian says when a party member dies she sounds like shes on the verge of tears, and is actually really sad that their gone. A real fucking shame fatshark didn't expand on this outside of a very rare occasion that in a good match, should never happen.

Huh?

>>14598143

>independant, cunty, and standoffish 24/7

>grieves/shows concern occasionally deep down

So the elf is a cat essentially.

My favorite by far is when the pyromancer mutters lumberfoot if the elf falls of a ledge.

>>14598453

What kind of cats have you been hanging with?

>>14598470

>cat is a huge cunt and a loner

>spent most of its life with a pair of dogs

>dogs leave to get trimmed every once in a while

>cat attempts to get your attention and searches for canines until they return.

>>14598407

Wood Elf's entire thing is that their Chaos taint is that they no longer are hospitable and nice, all the elves "think" they are immune to it, but each subrace has a corruption of their original nature pre-chaos

>>14598493

you got a shitty cat son. Mine begs to sleep with me on my bed, picks shit up I dropped and destroys all vermin in the area. Shes a first generation half wild cat breed so she acts like a fucking monster half the time, biting me to play, jumping on my shoulders and feels like fucking silk because of her essentially having a pelt rather than classic fur.

Thinking of bumping up to an actual wildcat next time like an ocelot

>>14598573

And none of it's female

>>14598582

Still dont prevent the "muh sexy female skaven would dick" meme.

Why aren't any of you fags talking about how trash this new patch is? My god Fatshark fucked up big time with this one.

>Supposedly "fixed" a bug in the game that just made melee worse

>Range still dominates crowd control and special slaying

>Now music doesn't play whenever a horde or a boss pops up

>As a result Legendary is nearly impossible to play without boss and horde alert music

>Still nothing was done about krubers ears clipping though his mercenary cosmetic

>No new content with this patch that they could have easily taken from V1

They did a few good things with this patch (some very minor buffs), but the buffs still do not outweigh what they fucking broke now.

>>14598737

If only there was sexy female skaven,if only

>>14599244

Never because payed mods basically decapitated the modding community.

>>14599274

If you're talking about for bethesda you're full of shit

>>14599295

ALSO FUCK BUBLESPEW BURBLECUNT

HE'S THE WORST BOSS IN THE ENTIRE FUCKING GAME

HIS GAY SHADES ARE UNDODGEBLE AND THEIR HITBOXES DON'T WORK

>>14599297

I asummed you were talking about them affecting modding as whole,were you not?

>>14599305

Yah that's what I meant. Maybe that was too much, but it definitely showed that most modders were not in it for love of the games.

>>14599319

Anon if someone told you that you could have free money for doing something you're already doing, would you take it?

>>14599319

I think that's a bad generalization to make,but it's not something i have the stats to prove or disprove.

I'll just have faith that mod makers are inherently in it to make more content for the game,not to make a buck.

>>14599329

And thats what donations are for anyway, most that want to make a buck are using patreon or similar.

>>14599301

Nah spinebreaker and ribspreader? are worse by far since they are armored and armor pen isn't absolute when it comes to ranged weapons and teammates almost never bring armor pen weapons. So those fights end up taking forever, but with the fat bastard you can just whack him to death or shoot him to death and essentially make the boss fight trivial. Just gotta know his attack patterns.

>>14599428

>Just gotta know his attack patterns.

But thats the case for literally any boss, more so for the ones you listed.

Those guys are about as difficult as normal chaos warriors, pick weapon with an attack / attacks that pierce armor bam you're done.

Assuming you're not like the people in quick play that dont know how to dodge / block.

>>14599464

People don't equip armor piercing weapon when they're pretty much the only viable weapons right now.

>>14596278

>Ranger Veteran:

>Last Resort: Increased power boost when out of ammo to 25%, up from 15%.

this sounds like fun since i have that on ranger because I like to burn through grudgeraker ammo turning everything into paste

>>14599432

Oh yeah you should always run Falchion on Saltz I have no trouble carrying when fighting those bosses as Saltz, but if I am trying to level other classes shitters never seem to bring any armor piercing.

>>14599464

I almost never see any armor piercing weapons whenever I am not playing my BH which causes those boss fights to take way longer than they should in qp.

>>14599626

> you should always run Falchion on Saltz

Rapier is way more fun unfortunately

>>14598143

The original point of that line of conversation is that Kerillian calls everyone niggers all the time. So yes, she is the anon, whether you like it or not.

>>14599235

When the patch was in beta you fags said it broke melee but I'm certainly not seeing it.

>Now music doesn't play whenever a horde or a boss pops up

Nigga what?

>Still nothing was done about krubers ears clipping though his mercenary cosmetic

Okay, I see, you can shut the fuck up now.

>>14599887

They've been doing that since release, and I think it was even in the beta.

>>14599922

it's been happening a lot more to me, at least

>>14599926

It happened in the first game as well. Fatshark are so fucking incompetent a majority of bugs that were in the original game carried over to this one.

>>14589212

I wonder if that image is shopped

>>14602106

This but it's literally in the game

Why the fuck does Salt say "RAW MIGHTY DUO"

and not "Roar"

>>14602204

Huntsman longbow really really needs to just cut the crap and work like Kerillian's yeah. Or at the very least, shooting while zooming doesn't dezoom so you can chain headshots without having to zoom for two seconds again.

>what the fuck they were thinking with Ironbreaker?

Someone who doesn't normally take damage outside of shit hitting the fan scenarios. He's one of the best classes in the game yes, but nobody's really surprised by this you know? He's the dedicated shitter carry class.

>>14602237

I would've been fine with Ironbreaker being a tankiest of tanks, but he also gets the best ranged weapons of all dwarf classes as well. Not only that, but those weapons encourage him to hide behind the team, making his tanking useless. I can't remember the last time I saw random breaker at the front line, instead of shooting his fire shit from behind my back (or AT my back, as it often happens).

>>14602204

Soon we will be able to play team of 4 different dorfs. Or even more if their netcode supports more than 4 players.

But yes, its sad that dwarf has one class which is better than any other by a lot and pistols which are better by a lot than any other weapon.

Flamethrower has less range, damage, you cant fucking see shit behind it, overheats faster, and does jack shit against everything. Or pistols which are opposite. I think pistols should overheat more in double mode and cooling should damage more or damage real(not temp) hp. At least they dont kill armored enemies efficiently.

>>14602204

krubers longbow doesn't aggro chaos warriors and destroys them on legend, you dont know what you're talking about

>>14602293

>>14602237

slayer is better in every way imaginable

>>14602336

>gimmick career with no ranged weapons is better than invincible tank with infinite ammo

Sure he is, you retard.

>>14602237

>>14602204

>tfw before patch hunter gruber was better than waystalker because you can easily hit 2-3 enemies in the head during hordes meaning you can just spam and bodyshots were able to kill stormvermin on any difficulty unlike kerillians.

Now its worse but still okay, it does more bodyshot damage and if you put ammo on headshot trait on it you get back 3 ammo with the talent meaning you'll never run out.

Ranged is still better than melee so I dont really know what the fuck fatshark is going on about in their patch notes about fixing that shit.

>>14602402

>FatSwede

>expecting to fix their game

>when they just announced season pass

It's like you're new to the game industry kikeing or something.

>Quickplay veteran because I really want to see if cool weapon skill drop from it

>skittergate in progress

>I'm respawning in like the very beginning and the fuckers can't hurt a chaos spawn near level 30

>Session ends because host probably ragequit, get booted back to the beginning with bots

>Oh well fuck it

>Complete the mission feeling safer with the bots than any human party

A very sad state of things. They almost couldn't deal with Rasknitt at all though.

>Another update

boy i wonder what this could fuck up

>>14602845

It's just a hotfix for a crash. I know you're really excited to shit on fatshark but I'm afraid there's nothing there this time. I guess the crash was about chinese text causing crashes? I'm sure you can do something with this.

>>14602865

Why the fuck are they fixing chinese when they could have spent that time fixing melee?! Fat Cuck fucks it up again!

>>14602961

>not helping the dwarf carry his waifu

The only fuckhead here is you.

>>14602976

Barrels do damage on any difficulty, ya retard. If they are throwing barrels at you it's because they are having fun and you aren't.

What's with randoms and picking up barrels?

>>14602997

Yet the damage multiplier is different on all so who gives a shit on anything but champ or legend?

>>14603000

They're autistic people who are larping as the dwarf like this guy >>14602997

>>14603021

Being autistic and being a Dwarf are both the exact same thing. We cant help it if it seems like larping, you ignorant wazzock!

>>14602980

Nah, i redrew it just from my eye

>Sienna

>Pyromancer

>Bolt staff with cool reduction on crit

Unstoppable.

>>14603080

people who play siena and know what they're doing seem to always murder everything

>>14603092

Eye of terror

>>14603085

It would annoy me if I wasn't playing Legend where even murdering everything sometimes isn't enough.

For people who have done skittergate on legend, did you manage to do it with randoms and what team comp did you have?

>>14603042

Just kidding, anyone who plays dorf for aesthetics cant be a totally bad person.

Also doesnt bardin always refer to himself as a "dawi" instead of dwarf?

>>14603120

Like a good dawi, he does.

With the last talent tree for Saltspyre, to what does it refer when the talent mentions the Handgun? I took the one that reduces the time for the special ability, because Im not sure what the other talents do.

>>14603137

in my experience they make the gun way shittier, reducing damage somehow

What is the story behind vermintide anyway? A bunch of rat people come from nowhere, and try to eat everything?

>>14603173

Basically, the big comet from the first game happens, and then the rat people are like "Yeah we gotta untie and fucking muder all of the surface dwellers" and then they proceed to skull fuck-fuck most of the surface, and then the northlanders who worship chaos are like "Yeah this seems like a good idea" and then proceed to also skull fuck the empire and everyone else, the End Times in Warhammer Fantasy then proceed to happen and then we get a shit setting out if it all, since Fantasy no longer exists in Games Workshop's mind, and only Age of Sigmar remains

>>14603196

The thing is, he's right, he just extremely underdeveloped his point.

>Kerillian is always disparaging her teammates, considering them inferior - Free insults with no censorship and no regard for being a pleasant member of the community

>She is the one to point out someone healed at near full health 90% of the time - git gud scrub

>She downplays headshots where everyone else is ejaculating - You're kind of supposed to headshot in this game, throwing fireworks for doing your job is for reddit, get back to work

You have dudes like >>14598143 who go purely on

<WTF the elf can't be /v/ because I'm ANGRY ABOUT ELVES

<She must be some shitty site like tumblr

Without even considering Kerillian is the ultimate antagonistic elitist and Tumblr's vocation is to stand in opposition of that.

>>14603139

Could you explain better? You mean it affects your range weapons, and does it make them worse?

Anyone else get a bug where you just randomly die in the middle of a level with no enemies attacking you?

I had it 2 nights ago. Happened to a wizard and I thought he was bullshitting then it happened to me.

Someone was saying its a 'medpack bug' but I think it might be someone fucking around with the server.

>>14603271

'We have a pretty good idea of what is causing it, in short the following components are involved:

uneven latency and/or framerate, extrapolation, player location, death volumes, etc'

-Devpost taken from the forum

>>14603288

Ah that does make sense.

When I had the bug, the host was really laggy. To the point where it made the hordes easier because they were glitching out a bit.

I dont mind too much that the game is more bugs than game at the moment as long as I know what the bugs are.

>>14603288

>latency

>player location

Sounds to me like it's one of those instances where it spontaneously applies fall damage with just those two factors.

>>14603257

The sidearm it refers to is the F, so it fires a different projectile, and the projectile variants are weaker in my experience

>>14603320

Yeah that was also mentioned, the devs want as much info on the locations of the sudden deaths so they can double check them and fix this

.

>>14603476

Wait until you get the temporary health on kill perk. The game becomes trivial.

>>14603476

>pick axe

Wait I thought it was garbage? Tested it out and it feels slow as fuck and the people who used it in the first one say its terrible now.

>>14603546

>>14603558

You use your guns for speed and switch to the pickaxe for massive damage. I know at the moment mine kills a chaos warrior in two hits.

>>14603611

I always felt it redundant to try to make the dwarf into a special killing character since others do it better. Carrying randoms is usually the most comfiest with a shield and axe + pistols in my opinnion.

>>14599244

delet this

>>14603794

Delete yourself

>Some pothead nigger is playing kruber and doesn't understand the game

fucking hell

how do I make huntsman not suck a million dicks?

>>14603951

Just stop projecting.

>>14603622

Why do you need a shield? Are you running into gunners so often that you need to block their shots? Use a 2h hammer and murder all of the hordes that come your way and contribute more damage as a result. Shields are a trap for the dorf they trick you into thinking you need them.

>>14604019

Having a really durable dwarf is great on champion and legend.

Anons feel like doing legends together?

>>14604071

Sure, "Umberman" is my steam, my profile pic is Gondola Manhattan

>>14604057

Except it really doesn't make you more durable and you are losing out on a lot of dps. Believe me the 2h hammer is the way to go on legend and champ the added dps just makes the runs go more smoothly.

>>14604116

While I can partially agree with you, if you want *smooth* runs you can just do a 4 ranged party.

Which is supper faggy and takes the fun away.

>>14604116

>>14604057

>>14604019

>>14603622

From personal experience, Shield is the superior option if you're the only tank in the party. The additional block radius and stamina go a long way if you build for it. Being able to block at 210+ degrees with 14 stamina goes a long way if you're covering the asses of a Pyro, Huntsman, and Shade.

If you're playing with a FK or Zealot, or at least a good coverage against hordes and specials (decent BH+Pyro) then you can forego the extra defense and focus on horde control and elite clears with the hammer.

>>14604348

How long did it take you to realize that Fatshark hates your fucking guts?

>>14604221

When I play dwarf I use shield mostly to push attack and rarely to kill a single elite if it happens to be safe enough to not be blocking all the time. If I want to get kills I switch to my pistols. You don't need a hammer or any other melee weapon because the pistol ALWAYS outperform it on anything but a solo chaos warrior.

>>14604417

I've never seen that happen, is it really possible?

>>14604428

my asshole being reamed by a chaos spawn and a stormfiend is pretty much proof, wish i had taken a screenshot

>>14604385

>absolute fun

>drawing in buffed up elites while losing health all the time

no

>>14604428

>>14604430

I've seen a choas spawn spawning during boss (halescourge).

>>14605788

>hightailing the fuck out of there only to get simultaneously pounced by two assasins at the first bend

But two disabler specials spawning at the same time was prevented two updates ago? I never saw a case of simultaneous disablers for weeks, let alone the exact same disablers.

>>14605788

Patrols being "silent" isn't the problem. The problem is they only make noise when they move, they don't move for about 30 seconds after they spawn or when reaching the end of their patrol path, and they can spawn literally on top of you.

To put into perspective how bullshit patrols spawn, you know how small the room with the first tome is on Hunger in the Deep (minecart level)? It's a tiny fucking room where you couldn't fit all 4 characters shoulder to shoulder in any direction. Had a stormvermin patrol spawn in that room WHILE I and one other teammate was in there as well.

>>14605801

Like I mentioned there seems to be trigger after named bosses to spawn a disabler because there always seems to be one. So I guess it was that on top of ambient spawn or they just spawned few seconds apart.

>>14605808

The point is that patrols, and really ALL enemy spawns, should have a minimum distance from the players under all circumstances. Possibly also a line-of-sight limitation where enemies cannot spawn in any spot currently visible to the players.

How hard can it be to make the marching start playing maybe 5-10 seconds before the patrol hops in.

>>14605804

That's true, stormvermin patrols have their "wah! hey!" sound but chaos patrols, worse by a mile, have nothing.

Not that it matters in quickplay because they always engage patrols.

>>14605820

Chaos patrols do have their own sound.

>>14605823

Pray tell, what is it?

>>14605823

it's much lower and less noticeable than the stormvermin sound, not gonna lie

>>14605820

They do have but it only starts playing half way their patrol. Now that you mentioned it, I can't recall stormvermins ever doing this bullshittery. I've always heard them way before seen them At least in my experience.

>>14605827

it's just *Metallic Banging*

>>14605836

They have a grunt too when moving. Again, only while moving. The problem with patrols is you run into them before they start patrolling

>>14605826

And what the fuck is wrong with a timer based AI director exactly? Do you want it to be spawn based, when defeating a horde and specials prevents them to spawn again for some time? As known as a fucking TIMER BASED AI DIRECTOR?

The only alternative to a non timer based AI director is to set up randomly generated checkpoints spawning shit when the party crosses a line and that just goes against the spirit of the game.

>Play Kruber

>Literally dragging team through Champ

>Every time there’s a stormvermin or Chaos Warrior Wizard and Elf nuke my health down to half

>wizard or elf manages to agro a patrol every time

>only the iron breaker is competent

>host wizard kicks me at rib splitter arena for using the health pots

>k fine “good luck”

>Bardin messages me later and tells me they got wiped at boss

This is so much cancer

Also is it just me or did Legendary become fucking borderline impossible. Like you’re fucked if any patrol spawns on top/I front/round a corner or just gets agro’d (good luck fighting 10 chaos warriors and whatever specials are hiding behind them)

>>14605851

Nope, not just you. Legend went from fucking us in the ass to fucking us in the ass using a sandpaper condom.

I swear the devs are fucking retarded.

where do i get this game for free

>>14605980

Hahah just use this torrent with multiplayer crack, friend: GET A FUCKING JOB YOU DULL PIECE OF SHIT ITS JUST 25 BUCKS

>all cunt party

Good thing you cant actually do that

>>14605927

>I swear the devs are fucking retarded.

Considering all the effort going into their twitch mode, it's not surprising. I have a suspicion that special spawns weren't fixed at all and the complete opposite happened. Our game routinely had 6 specials on the map at all times with every roaming mob either a marauder or a rothelm and minibosses would always follow with a horde with minimum 2 shield stormvermins.

>>14605820

>>14605823

>>14605827

Here is their sound:

*stomp grunt stomp grunt stomp grunt*

*patrol stops*

*full silence*

you try to run past them

*patrol stopped too close and now chases you*

Enjoy your 6+ chaos knights

>>14606640

Despite the normalfaggotry, Twitch mode made sense because FS barely put money into standard marketing.

Instead they made a game mode that could act both as a feature and a tool for getting their game onto as many screens as possible.

That aside I don't think fixing the spawn doesn't need many resources just someone who isn't retarded.

>>14606680

I can't tell who is worse.

The smelf or the heretic.

>>14606699

Honestly, I think all the characters are great. Kerillian a cute, though.

>>14606680

What was the name of the artist again and didn't said artist retired from making his shite artworks?

>>14606699

Well, Sienna is by far the most powerful character in the game, talking soloing legendary strong. Elf is a decent all-rounder but not really great at anything except special sniping.

>>14606722

The name's right there in the image.

>>14604221

>Being able to block at 210+ degrees with 14 stamina goes a long way

How do you get up to 14 stamina?

I thought that was not possible.

>>14606789

1 shield=2 stamina

I can't handle Legend any longer, in the last few hours I've had it all.

>Game engine crash at the end of the level

>Instant death glitch

>pub retards

>Host gets mad over dying once and leaves the game

>(ESP)

>Elf that doesn't know how to block revive

>Elf shooting me in the back and leaving me to be one shot by a rothelm shove then the team gets ambushed by specials trying to get me up and I get the blame for going down

>Elf refusing to pick up tomes or healing because she has the necklace health regen trait

I've stopped enjoying the challenge of Legend and all that's left is a hate for Eves.

>>14606893

I hate that stupid regen trait and everyone who uses it. Health does not fucking matter in this game. What matters is clearing Wounds when you inevitably go down, and/or carrying shit to clear somebody else's wound

>>14602391

ok, have you ever done a legend map

have you ever done a legend deed?

how many hours do you have in the game?

the slayer with dual axes and a 2h hammer is fucking op.

>>14606923

But why would you take a slayer over a Ironbreaker,BH,Waystalker/FK and a Pyro team

>>14607000

Because you can. Slayer also got higher skill cap so if you have a really good player he's even better ccer with the leap. Though now that boss taunting has been fixed IB's got that going on for him.

>>14602769

bots are decent until you need to deal with a boss, hard to code skill it seems for fatshark.

>>14606699

But Sienna isnt malicious in her taunts, shes generally teasing Saltz' hateboner and generally having a good time burning the world down

also

>Bright Wizard

>Heretic

you need u- them

>>14606730

Smelf is the second best ranged character, sadly.

>>14607470

Magic is a crutch for the weak.

And if she calls me darling one more time she bites the bullet.

>>14606715

Being loud and annoying is not part of being cute. Thus the title of cute is denied.

>>14607575

The title of cute then goes to the runner-up Bardin

Rats and vermin, sneak and squeak, guard your hold, from deep to peak!

Everything I do feels consistently weaker across the board what the fuck is this patch.

>>14607728

Its a fix. Before we all had basically unlimited Heropower while normally it would be limited to the difficulty.

This is what it always should have been. If you already got gud you now have to git gudder.

>>14607728

Playing Legend or Champion is easier than ever though.

>forget to check teammate health and drink a potion while some one was on temporary health

>feel like a dickhead, guide player back to some med kit i found to make up for it

>get removed by the elf that was complaining about it

kill all elves.

>>14607000

because slayer literally walks through stormvermin, fucks up chaos warriors, demolishes bosses, is relatively tanky, has good control with 2h hammer, and retarded dps with dual axes. hes got a great leap for when hes in a sticky situation or needs to revive someone and its on a relatively low cooldown so he can do it for fucking ever.

its fucking sleeper op and all the best legend players are exploiting the shit out of it cuz you'd have to be a faggot not to

>>14608518

I call bullshit on that shit since I've always had consistant matches except when the host has Zimbabwe internet. Then those matches are easy because everything lags out and all the mobs seem to focus on the non hosts allowing the host to run around and kill everything without a problem.

>>14608457

But BH/Way/Pyro can delete specials, but better and from ranged safety and with a IB and a FK offtank or Waystalker you can just do legend runs pretty smoothly and do even more damage. I've seen people trying to go slayer since the patch and its never been as good as having an IB.

>>14608585

The CPU handles the director ai and most people have a half-way decent CPU, not stellar but not terrible. If you do manage to max out your CPU when running the game or have a bunch of background processes that are chewing it up, there's a very noticeable difference in what the game does to you. Similarly, if the CPU blows the requirements out of the water, the director ai can go ballistic and just heap shit on you at times, though the recent patches have been addressing this. Most people don't have this issue because most people are running with a middle-of-the-road CPU.

Vermintide 1 did the same thing and people exploited it by running loads of garbage in the background to neuter the director ai.

>>14608623

so what you're saying is i should open fifty tabs of chrome all with videos playing and the game will be easier

>>14608640

Only if you're the host, but you're probably run out of memory first.

Some anons here were saying they was some king of exploit when you press Q with bounty hunter?…

I was wondering if they is any secret trips I should know about bounty hunter

>>14609600

I thought anons were referring to the fact that if you press Q after pressing a blessed shot and Q again, it cancels the fire animation faster with the spinning gun. Same with fireing and pressing reload witht he spinning gun

>>14609600

I had a macro for that. It was good, but not as good as you might think.

>>14609629

Yeah I didn't think it was that good in the firstplace. Most shit doesn't live through a non-crit bolt anyways so the infinite crit thing was more of a meme than practical.

I generally don't play BH anyways for the same reason.

>>14609628

Well it does that too I guess, but it's sort of an animation cancel that you're only using once in a while and it doesn't really save you a whole bunch of time or anything. If it was something you're using for every shot it might be worth mentioning, but as far as I'm aware the repeating crossbow is still king for BH.

>>14609756

It also gave you the "blessed shots do not consume ammo" talent effect. As a result, you could spam crit shots without reloading. HOWEVER, it would not trigger +2 ammo on crit, which means that if you didn't get kills with every shot to reset your cooldown you could easily run out.

Good against hordes, OK against specials with perfect aim, not too useful against elites and bosses.

>>14610399

Just noticed that with the Irondrake gun as well. A half-second delay that had me eat more than one hit unnecessarily.

Supposedly they upped the drop rate of Veteran (red) items. I've already gotten one red out of my 2 legend chests since the patch, but that's not nearly enough of a sample. Anyone else notice the difference?

Is there any reason to use hand cannon?

>>14615824

Yeah handgun. I found that the longbow outstrips the handgun when you're playing a huntsman and merc/knight kruber seems to be expected to save or support team mates when it comes to ranged combat, therefore making the blunderbuss or the repeater more useful. Can't find a niche for the handgun.

>>14615953

my halberd is more efficient to rescue anyone outside of rare circumstances than any range weapon, the time taken to switch weapons is long, i only use handgun to take out elites at range like blightwizard/ratling gunner etc, or assassins molesting scrubs who cant stay on the same platforms as the rest of us and get left behind.

>>14615953

Longbow may sound better on paper, but it's a fucking bullshit - by the time you draw it, your target will already be killed by obligatory Waystalker who's present on every team now. That's why I tend to avoid Hunter altogether, as he just doesn't have ranged weapon worthy of his talents and passives. As for merc/knight, their focus is on melee, they have excellent melee weapons so they don't really need short-ranged weapons, and handgun allows them to quickly take out threats at long range.

>>14616323

It's not huntsmans role to whore kill trash or even stormvermin unless there are more than one or two. What he excels at is taking out chaos warriors and melt bosses. And I mean industrial level melting. Pop that str pot and ult for instant -50% boss health.

>>14616534

Or you can just use Waystalker with glaive. Huntsman is pretty much a Chinese knock-off elf.

>>14616546

You can't have more than one of one hero. He's just heavier version and the two complement eachother pretty well.

>>14616562

Yes, but you can have redundancy. BH is better at this role anyway.

>>14616569

You can never have enough ranged. And coming back to if you want to play huntsman, he's not bad just because elf can hog all the ambient trash.

>>14616620

>You can never have enough ranged

Fire cunt, wood cunt, iron cunt, one-eyed cunt. Can't see where the Huntsman fits in this scheme of things.

>>14616637

If you're using gun or xbow on IB you're doing it wrong.

New thread when?

>>14618777

NOW

>>14619864