b9c6d2 No.14432532
For the last four years or so, Nintendo has been releasing way more Kirby titles than usual and almost as many games as it had released during its first decade.
Most of these titles seem like extremely low effort cashgrabs.
fa711b No.14432546
Robobot is a 1:1 clone of Triple Deluxe. Discuss.
b9c6d2 No.14432548
>>14432546
They are both just Return to Dreamland, more or less.
656186 No.14432550
I don't mind more of the same
b9c6d2 No.14432557
>>14432550
Musou fan I assume? Or perhaps Monhun?…
cf0842 No.14432562
>>14432532
I don't mind them, I'm actually glad Kirby's finally been getting some love after being neglected this long. I'd really love for us to get some more Dreamland games again, but feels like Kirby's fallen to the Sonic curse.
The new games range from "okay" to "pretty good", but I haven't played an outstanding Kirby game since Super Star.
fa711b No.14432563
>>14432548
Either way
>Get Robobot
>Beat it 100%, including true arena, etc
>That was okay I guess
>Lend it to friend and play Triple Deluxe
>Dropped it halfway through the first world because it had the same everything
>Level design, foreground/background gimmick, collect the charms shit, etc
Seriously, is KSS the only good game?
e35329 No.14432570
>>14432532
Kirby is a homosexual bellwether. Expect to see more of him and gay cartoons about anal sex in the future.
b9c6d2 No.14432573
>>14432563
The series just kept getting easier and slower after that, not to say that KSS was particularly hard to begin with but certain modes posed some challenge and everything overall felt pretty fresh. Kirby 64 is probably the worst offender as far as slow Kirby goes
082ce7 No.14432580
>>14432562
>Kirby
>Neglected
If you've been living under a rock.
ede883 No.14432586
I want to know why the fucking Kirby game on Switch runs at 30fps. That's the real fucking travesty here.
7ac8fd No.14432592
>>14432586
How can you fail to optimize a 2d platformer?
ede883 No.14432600
>>14432592
Don't ask me, but if Odyssey can run at 60 as an open world 3D platformer, a 2D platformer running at 30 is simply unacceptable.
da4b89 No.14432602
>>14432562
>Kirby
>Neglected
7ac8fd No.14432607
>>14432600
How can you fuck up that bad? It's presumably the same engine they've been using on the goddamn 3ds.
>>14432602
You gotta admit, nintendo doesn't parade kirby around like their other franchises. He get's a lot of appearances and games, but he's just kinda there for the most part. There are certainly more neglected ones though, like f-zero or star fox.
b9c6d2 No.14432612
>>14432607
You want to talk about neglected Nintendo franchises? Just take a look at Wave Race and Pilotwings.
0ab181 No.14432614
>>14432586
IIRC the lighting is a big reason, someone made a few detailed posts on Twitter talking about how in-depth the new system is
>>14432600
Odyssey and the Switch were built in tandem and influenced the design of each other, with SMO being built around the specs and the Switch's controller being built around Mario's control scheme. For all we know Star Allies was meant to be a Wii U game
fa711b No.14432625
>>14432612
>Doshin the Giant
b9c6d2 No.14432653
>>14432625
We can go obscurer
>Giftpia
>Captain Rainbow
a3cdeb No.14432682
>Startropics
>Panel de Pon
>Wario Land
304e0f No.14432693
>>14432532
>Most of these titles seem like extremely low effort cashgrabs.
Aren't all kirby games basically the same game?
The biggest change that happened since the GBA is a jump from 2D to 3D
011db6 No.14432697
66bde6 No.14432706
90d2a6 No.14432715
15a165 No.14432758
You want obscure Nintendo titles? Famicom Bunko is so obscure that I can't even find the cover art and it was made by Nintendo.
I haven't played it but it seems to be similar to Boku no Natsuyasumi.
a347a1 No.14432764
>>14432532
Kirby Clash, Blowout Blast, Fighters Deluxe and Drum Dash were all just minigames in the respective mainline game that got expanded into their own game, they're not really individual kirby games.
b851fd No.14432769
>>14432586
maybe it's suppose to be an ebin meme reference to how kirby 64 was also 30fps xdddd
078009 No.14432774
>>14432625
Doshin is basically Baal the game except he's a banana nigger.
15a165 No.14432777
>>14432774
>tfw Doshin is never getting another sequel
078009 No.14432789
>>14432777
Of course not, it was basically throwaway software for the N64DD, Nintendo doesn't make fun toys anymore, they make gimmicks.
75b0e8 No.14432793
I like Kirby, not those cheap games that should just be mobile shit
but actual Kirby games have all been really good for the 3DS
ffa088 No.14432803
>>14432758
You can't find boxart of Famicom Bunko because it never existed.
The game was released for the Nintendo Power flashcart, an official product that could download SFC and GB roms from a kiosk. This was the game's only official release format until a VC release
some light reading:
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Famicom_Bunko:_Hajimari_no_Mori
http://nintendo.wikia.com/wiki/Nintendo_Power_(cartridge)
15a165 No.14432815
>>14432803
Fascinating, makes you wonder about just how expensive a Power cartridge with loaded roms is nowadays.
b69b00 No.14432817
I think Robobot was the peak of all these "new" Kirby games, Star Allies will probably be only okay.
c682b5 No.14432884
>>14432706
>Custom Robo NEVER EVER
>Fucking Jewtendo can't port it to the Switch and make online multiplayer
>Just like F-Zero GX
Why did Iwata have to go.
656186 No.14432933
50497a No.14432944
>>14432884
maybe if they hire enough sega staff they'll make good games again.
078009 No.14432951
>>14432884
Did Iwata even greenlit a single Custom Robo game? That was all probably Yamauchi Mark.
d6c00d No.14432958
Since it's very relevant I'll share a story.
>be planning to visit Japan with gf
>the only thing I know I want 100% is to visit the Kirby cafe in tokio
>today be googling about it
>it was open for 3 months only and then terminated
>don't want to visit Japan anymore
The good news is Nintendo is planning on creating Nintendoland in 2020 and they might just remake the Kirby cafes in it.
d0f742 No.14432983
>>14432532
>Kirby gets 4 mainline games, 4 mini-games, and a battle royale installment in the course of 4 years
>F-Zero is still nowhere to be seen
7ac8fd No.14432985
>>14432958
I think that's how most of those cafes operate, they're only up for a few months.
d6c00d No.14432994
>>14432985
No.
There were only three of them ever made.
On a related note, what other videogame related places are there?
feea5c No.14432996
>>14432958
Kinda similar, but when I was younger I really wanted to visit the Pokemon amusement park until I learned it only existed for a couple months or years. I don't think it's been around since 2005 or 2006.
I still want to visit Japan at some point. I'm not expecting it to be like some shitty SoL anime.
7ac8fd No.14433002
>>14432996
>I'm not expecting it to be like some shitty SoL anime.
You'd be surprised. A lot of anime capture the architecture there extremely well.
a7a181 No.14433007
>>14432983
It says a lot when you can't make a game even when you have the asset ant game logic to make it.
d0f742 No.14433025
>>14433007
I doubt that Nintendo has the know how to make a proper F-Zero game since Sega and Namco helped them make the last good installment in the F-Zero franchise. Hell, I don't even think nu-Sega has the knowhow to make a good racing game anymore.
0cb83e No.14433057
>>14432532
>Most of these titles seem like extremely low effort cashgrabs.
That's the Kirby franchise in a nutshell for ya. Always low effort games. Never anything that could be considered one of the best games ever made.
d8eb0d No.14433083
Bold titles are games, the rest are 5 dollah minigames. 1 game every 2 year doesn't sound too bad.
I'll call you a nigger since you seem to imply those are full pledge Kirby titles by the images you posted.
TD and robobot are still pretty underwhelming though.
9d16d7 No.14433671
>>14432958
Yeah I wanted to eat those big boi Dedede dishes. I'm a fat motherfucker and would have loved to gruffle that rib and chicken plate.
946be3 No.14433692
>>14432532
>Most of these titles seem like extremely low effort cashgrabs.
Seem like?
They fucking are
4a5248 No.14433709
a13124 No.14433710
>>14432693
Most game since super star was a retread or remake of an older game, but not as good.
c150e0 No.14433768
Every Kirby game after amazing mirror was shit.
4475ba No.14433779
x is the last good kirby game tbh.
30e622 No.14433811
>>14433748
Yes, I disagreed with your 70 iq shitstain of an opinion.
9c3e62 No.14433830
Triple Deluxe, Robobot, and Star Allies are fine. The clay one was good. Shit like Battle Royale, Blowout Blast, and Clash should be a bonus mode included with the aforementioned games, not their own game. But Nintendo is going full-jew and releasing every half-assed idea as its own game.
>yfw there's not even online multiplayer in the fucking 100 mario party minigames
e62fbe No.14433868
>>14432769
The demo is very choppy compared to that game thoguh, as if the game can't keep it consistently at 30fps, especially if you have 4 players.
946be3 No.14433877
>>14433830
>if mass attack was released today all the minigames would have been chopped up and sold separately
c49f36 No.14433884
>>14433830
It's late 3ds support, what did you expect? they're not going to put their best into a dying platform.
>>14432592
It's not a failure of optimization you dumb nigger, they choose to favor extra graphical oomph at the expense of framerate.
946be3 No.14433893
>>14433884
>they choose to favor extra graphical oomph at the expense of framerate
There is nothing "oomph" about a sub 30 FPS framerate in a fixed plane. Mario Odyssey looks and runs better.
2f7c5b No.14433902
>>14432532
I dare say that a lot of people who play these kirby games look a lot like kirby. Nintendo is making boys and girls soft and not prepared for the challenges of the real world.
c4dbcf No.14433913
Woooo! Next incarnation of pink blob of shit with a derpface when? Next month you say? Kirby died in 20–.
33d4d5 No.14433930
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>>14433893
Yes, 30fps sucks shit, but the game looks really fucking nice and pushes a shitload of effects at 1080p, oddysey was 900p and only had to process 1 player.
530ab4 No.14433939
946be3 No.14433969
>>14433939
>canned animation on character
>"it has physics attached"
>rudimentary colored lighting that has existed for decades
>"it has complex dynamic shadows and lighting"
Who the fuck is this retard? Has he played any game in the past decade?
>>14433930
Its (supposedly)1080p with no antialiasing whatsoever. It looks worse than Odyssey. You can see the jagged edges even at such a low resolution in pic related.
c91ff8 No.14433997
>>14433969
Your average pretentious Nintendo faggot dweeb that spouts bullshit and laces his words with verbosity and filler to make it seem like he knows that he's taking about, when in reality he's pulling shit out of his ass faster than a magician in prime time.
c4dbcf No.14434010
So why does Nintendo have to beat every franchise they have into the fucking mantle of the earth? New blood? Fresh ideas…innovation? I know they have the shittiest strategy for selling new games and hardware, but come the fuck on.
0bc063 No.14434026
>>14433969
Oddysey and no antialiasing either. Rendering also becomes more taxing when you have 4 (cpu controlled)characters pushing their own effects and light reflections. It seems like a rather effect heavy game which is why only runs at 30fps. I doubt nintendo programmers forgot how to code for the first time ever for this title.
946be3 No.14434033
>>14434026
>Rendering also becomes more taxing when you have 4 (cpu controlled)characters pushing their own effects and light reflections
Those effects were taxing back in the days of Saturn. There isn't a single reflection in the game, not even the water reflects anything.
366f9e No.14434097
>>14434033
>There isn't a single reflection in the game
One example of real time environment reflection. Now multiply for every character, all with their flashy attacks, and that's only on a single character model.
>Those effects were taxing back in the days of Saturn
Ah, so you're retarded then. nm.
e62fbe No.14434102
>>14433969
>Its (supposedly)1080p with no antialiasing whatsoever. It looks worse than Odyssey. You can see the jagged edges even at such a low resolution in pic related.
It looks nicer at portable mode, but that only runs, at best, in 720p.
946be3 No.14434140
>>14434097
>One example of real time environment reflection
Thats not a reflection. Its very basic environmental mapping that even the saturn could do on the software and the PS1 had hardware support for.
The best part about this is tech illiterate retards regurgitating stupid shit to hype themselves up. Next thing you know some guy on twitter will claim the game uses "advanced polygonal rendering techniques" and you fucks eating it up hook, line and sinker.
b36aaa No.14434173
>>14434140
No, you are retarded and clearly no fucking clue what you're talking about, that much is evident. So spare us with the techsplaining, brainlet.
The model is clearly reflecting it's surroundings in real time, this is most easily observable in the hat reflecting the light source in the foreground and the heart being thrown by the helper being reflected as it travels, not even a retard like you could miss it.
946be3 No.14434181
>>14434173
>The model is clearly reflecting it's surroundings in real time
Again more retardation from your tech illiterate brain. Look up what environment mapping is you fucking tumblr reject.
The difference between a real reflection and a faked one is the difference between the servbot heads in Dead Rising 1 and 4. Theres a reason why that metal surface only "reflects" light.
b36aaa No.14434203
>>14434181
No dipshit. You're wrong about everything and yet keep acting like like an authority on these things. The difference between servbot in dr1 and 4 is that in the first the reflection is being done in realtime, in 4 it's a simple cubemap which saves on rendering times but the actual surroundings aren't seen on it. The actual environment, characters,effects and lights can be seen on kirby's model, which is impossible to do with an offline cubemap.
946be3 No.14434278
>>14434203
>The actual environment, characters,effects and lights can be seen on kirby's model
You have deluded yourself to the point of hallucination.
946be3 No.14434301
Heres another example of your totally real "reflections" that are so performance intensive that the game can't even maintain a constant 30FPS despite looking like hot ass.
81382a No.14434319
>Bring back a old character nobody really asked for let alone knew.
>Decide to make a IP for them
>Highly praised
>No sequel in sight.
Who am I talking about and why does Nintendo do this? They have the most IP's and characters that deserve a game every now and then but Nintendo likes to throw them into the closet and lose the key.
cbceb2 No.14434379
>>14434278
>>14434301
>Doesn't know the difference between real 3d geometry and a flat texture/skybox
>Can't see actual 3d assets and effects being reflected dynamically
>Thinks reflections are "free" and take no gpu resources
>High res sprites, particle effects and refractions/real time reflections can be done on a freaking saturn
>Calls others ignorant
This is just fucking sad.
946be3 No.14434386
>>14434379
>>High res sprites, particle effects and refractions/real time reflections can be done on a freaking saturn
Two of those can be done on a saturn and my entire point was that its not a reflection in the first place.
Maybe next time actually read the posts you are replying to instead of going into a delusional frenzy.
812a55 No.14434430
>>14434386
Lmao. I didn't miss anything, you're just a complete retard being buttmad about being proven wrong
>Those effects were taxing back in the days of Saturn. There isn't a single reflection in the game
God where does one even begin with this level of autism. Missing the obvious 3d reflections and comparing complex 3d effects and particles with 16x16 bitmaps.
0c25c0 No.14434432
>>14434319
Shut up /ss/fag you don't deserve shit just because your babysitter never sucked your peepee when you were little.
a8289b No.14434482
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>>14434301
>MK8
>30fps
Nah 4 player split screen aside anyways
946be3 No.14434493
>>14434482
was referring the Kirby with that. Mario Kart 8 runs pretty well apart from that weird 64 frame doubling.
082ce7 No.14434707
>>14433830
>Fine
Nah, nigga. They were mediocre titles at best that people suck off because “d’awwwww look at Kirby, ain’t he so cute”. There’s no substance to those games and before you go “that’s how all Kirby games are” I suggest you realize now that they are all terrible games for casuals that are only held up because “muh Nintendo”
1e74ab No.14434747
>all this fellatio for KSS
Is this going to be another Super Metroid where I will never get the praise?
Anyway, Star Allies seems fairly mundane so far, so I hope it ends up being better than it looks. Went into Robobot and Triple Deluxe without seeing any footage beforehand.
fa711b No.14434771
>>14434747
Kirby always was a casual platformer with maybe one or two difficulty spikes near the end. Its not a hard game.
It's fun. You can use whatever powers you want to beat up enemies and bosses, and the difficulty depends on the powers in some cases. All in all its just comfy to play and has good production values all around.
If you want a challenge, try to beat the arena without powers, only using your inhale/spit
1e74ab No.14434778
>>14434771
I know, mate, I like Kirby. It's comfy, and I get frustrated fairly easily so it's good for me. I was specifically talking about Kirby Super Star, which is good, certainly, but I never saw it as some holy grail like some anons do.
fa711b No.14434795
>>14434778
Well its basically an amalgamation of the earlier games, so it replaces those. Later games don't have that same punch or exploration feel it has. I felt obligated to go off the path in Robobot, for example, so I didn't miss a sticker or a star thing. I'd actively avoid warp stars in the case that I'd have to backtrack to get something. The level design feels poorly done in this regard.
084836 No.14434936
I intentionally dropped my power during the Dedede fight and let my AI buddies do the dirty work. They actually did very well on their own with little to no help from me. Btw, the hard mode is just a compilation of various levels and not an actual level. Hopefully that means that the final level design will be better.
084836 No.14434955
>>14434936
Forgot to add that the fire and smoke effects are terrible. I also did not notice those "high-end" reflections.
d85989 No.14435447
>>14434771
>muh comfy
This is the quintessential Kirbyfag excuse to everything.
5e489b No.14435477
>>14434430
>Lmao
And that is when you've know you lost the argument.
1e74ab No.14435491
>>14435447
>every game needs to be Battletoads
Kinda pisses me off, this attitude. Good, fun games get overlooked by this place because they're not near impossible. Not every game needs to be stressful at every step, some can just be nice and calm, after a long, tiring day of work.
66bde6 No.14435557
>>14432951
Iwata greenlit the gamecube one and the DS one I thought
66bde6 No.14435563
>>14434301
Keep in mind that this is HAL we're talking about, they probably kept the single player experience at 30FPS so people wouldn't a different experience when playing with four people.
d8eb0d No.14435586
>>14435447
>expecting challenge in a franchise that's easy as fuck from the get-go
they wouldn't have given you a float mechanic if that was the case, my niggerman
e07046 No.14435808
File: df6687d88d4f1d1⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 23.9 KB, 527x197, 527:197, ksademodatamineinprogress.png)
Heads up.
The dude who sucked this game off earlier is now leaking deets on (((disagreement))).
Prepare for copious amounts of pink salt within the next few hours.
c36071 No.14435993
>>14434771
>always a casual platformer
Unfortunately, that got tiring after a while
fe0fc2 No.14436042
>>14435993
I never got tired of it, but it only really is worth it for me because of how clean and polished they are. I can't handle a 30fps Kirby game. The demo was painful to trudge through strictly because of it. I'd take gimped visual effects for a solid 60fps any day.
946be3 No.14436750
>>14435563
>they probably kept the single player experience at 30FPS so people wouldn't a different experience when playing with four people
The game doesn't run at a constant 30 and drops with four people.
a3cdeb No.14436809
>>14435563
>It runs like garbage in the worse-case circumstance, so we should make it run like that all the time so nobody notices!
f7b603 No.14436890
I've got a question, /v/.
Why are Waddle Dees so cute?
d1e7ce No.14436899
>>14434776
Too bad.
>>14436890
I think it's the chubbiness combined with their lack of mouths.
d270e2 No.14436904
>>14436899
Th-that's not a cameltoe there is it?
f7b603 No.14436909
>>14436899
>image
Well that's not cute at all.
a443a5 No.14437007
>wanting to play games about the pink jew
>any year
812523 No.14437083
>>14433709
They are right though.
ab2f32 No.14437205
>>14432532
Considering they're claiming every jewtube video of even the NES era games with their judaism, jewtendo probably bought out the IP entirely from HAL and are milking it for all they can get.
69936d No.14437215
>>14436904
>>14436899
>Bunny suit Kirby with a cameltoe
I'm okay with this.
f7b603 No.14437271
>>14437215
but are you okay with this
(USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST) 69936d No.14437353
>>14437271
Haven't seen that one before.
b4a6e7 No.14437653
>>14434301
>looking like hot ass
What's even the point of blatantly lying like this? How do you expect to be taken seriously spouting this garbage?
66bde6 No.14437702
>>14436809
Well Sakurai did it with Smash 4
>>14436750
Huh, well then I take back what I said. Them having that lighting engine is retarded
d85989 No.14437710
>>14437271
KILL YOURSELF MOTHERFUCKER
b4a6e7 No.14437720
>>14436809
Yes idiot, that's how it actually works in every game ever. You lock the framerate to get stable gameplay, unless you want constantly fluctuating framerates for whatever reason.
God you retards are fucking painful to read.
b4a6e7 No.14437808
>>14437702
You can judge for yourself instead of listening to absolute retards who have a bone to pick with this game.
>>14433930
Game looks perfectly stable.
37a589 No.14438320
>>14432983
Probably helps that HAL is an entire company that makes Kirby game/spinoffs while Nintendo EAD is like if we may MK faster and have anti-grav for crazy track designs, we won't need F-Zero anymore!
>>14433877
The "deluxe" versions aren't just the original minigame stripped from the game, they have different content/stages/modes to expand on the original. For example with KTD deluxe versions.
>DDD Drum Dash Deluxe is 7 stages (plus 7 more harder versions), falling into a pit won't lose the stage (just combo) while the one contained in TD is just 3 (and 1 unlock) and instant loss of falling into a pit.
>Fighters Deluxe has more stages, different single player content, more items and 2 new Kirby copy abilities unlocked if the player has the original game.
4f59a8 No.14438335
>>14432958
>going to a country solely for a cafe
c5f7e4 No.14439064
>>14432563
Nah, Adventure and Dream Land 1 and 2 are pretty good too. Everything after that is forgettable.
c5f7e4 No.14439066
>>14432592
By refusing to use hand-drawn 2D art like a cheap, lazy faggot.
1032cf No.14439290
Whose gayer, Kirby or Birdo?
a2b824 No.14439318
>>14438335
I once knew a man who drove all the way to Chicago just for Pizza.
a2b824 No.14439319
>>14439318
I should specify that he lives in Kansas, not as far as it could have been, but not exactly close either.
519cbf No.14444002
>>14432532
Kirby's sales have improved ever since Sakurai fuck off for good, I wonder if he is willing to do the same with Super Smash.
b27d7b No.14444030
>>14437271
This is really cute but so, so wrong.
520517 No.14444058
Reminder yo-yo is the smoothest power up.
fb9fff No.14458426
>>14438320
Dedede's Drum Dash Deluxe and Kirby's Blowout Blast have entirely new levels and are basically pseudo-sequels to the original subgames. Kirby Fighters Deluxe and Team Kirby Clash Deluxe, however, are just the remakes/expansions with new content piled around them. Also Jewgolor.