/v/ - Video Games

>page 11

If the pedantic faggots duplicate /agdg/ threads when the previous thread is on page 12, what makes you think they'll be fine with page 11?

>>14431361

>>14431350

Sorry, I started doing gamedev a month ago. I'm not used to the sacred shitposter dogma of /agdg/.

>>14431361

Well, the mate who made it hadn't posted in the thread beforehand, so I'll chalk it up to cuckchan refugees.

>>14431353

The gun model is for show.

>Premature thread

>>14431415

I've locked the older thread. OP, in the future remember the rules

>>14431415

shhh

nobody's gonna check

>>14431353

Gun model is 100% for show, same for tracer effects. Most of the time it's just hitscans.

I think TF2 actually had projectiles, namely the Soldier's Rocket Launcher, being shot from an angle and still manage to always reach the center of where the screen is pointing at regardless of distance, but the player's viewmodel never changes despite the projectile having dynamic angling depending on distance.

What i haven't seen yet is a modern FPS actually having the gun model be at the center of the screen, doom-like, outside of ADS. I'm guessing showcasing gunporn and good aesthetics is the point of the viewmodel but it's never realistic compared to how you're supposed to be carrying and aiming the weapon.

>>14431430

Are people here against a cycle for some reason?

>>14431350

POST A BEFORE AND AFTER PICTURE OF YOU CALLING THAT DOG A GOOD BOY NOW!

>>14431430

And how exactly does this benefit anyone? Being unable to post in the old thread just means this one will get to bumplock faster, while providing no benefit considering it couldn't be bumped anymore anyway.

People have received bans multiple times for doing this, it's explicitly stated in the rules that you have to wait until page 13, he was explicitly told that he had to wait until page 13, and frankly he's shown that he's not from here. "Lurk 2 years" is not a meme, give the fag a timeout.

>>14431450

>>14431457

Also it's harder to archive a cycled thread

>>14431353

There are different ways it's handled. Sometimes the bullets come out of the barrel at an angle, sometimes it comes out of the face and the gun is just for show, sometimes the bullets come straight out of the barrel. It all depends on what you want.

>>14431367

If you have been here for only a month, why the hell would you be so willing to jump the gun and start the thread when there are anons way more suited and experienced to do just that?

>>14431353

oh. You wanted your question answered.

I'll oblige

>what's the usual solution?

usually static position of the gun that has no actual influence on where the bullets go. Bullets go to where the center of the screen it. That's usually it.

But there's always the ARMA/Insurgency method if you want realism. There were also games that had the crosshair move on-screen to represent where the gun is pointing, while it remains static.That is rare because it isn't exactly fun

>>14431501

>Also it's harder to archive a cycled thread

and that's why I'll never accept cyclic /agdg/ threads

>>14431592

Dialogue box looks good, but it contrast a bit with the rest of the environment

>>14431369

>>14431441

>>14431554

>>14431571

Thanks for the answers. I guess I'll focus on other mechanics before deciding if I want the guns to rotate.

>>14431610

Should I bump up the pixel size, make it a bit more angular? Or is it the gradient on the background?

>>14431626

I'd scale it up, maybe change the black border to something less strong

>>14431690

Boot up Half Life and look at how that does the weapon movement.

>don't move the gun when you're just moving normally (remove that bob)

>set the rotation point closer to the middle of the gun, so it looks like the whole model is shifting rather than just the front of it

I'd also speed up the lerping a lil bit but that's just me

>>14431715

Sorry, bro. I won't be touching that project in the coming year or two. I'll likely be modifying the bob, not removing it tho. I WAS in the middle of a second rewrite so that was planned anyway. It was mainly to show that OP anon a way of doing things.

>>14431740

Should've checked IDs

>>14431813

I guess if you're going for something realistic having bob with any movement is probably what you want.

>>14431971

Jesus fuck, this is worse than my old game maker scripts.

>>14431971

This looks like something I'd write. And I don't mean that in a good way.

I'm amazed people are getting paid for this.

>>14431971

>>14432008

I like this shit, I have to read students' bad code all week for my job, but it's extra entertaining to see this kind of shit hit production.

>>14432008

>bool e17touchWallL = false;

>phew, just got finished adding the bools for the 17th enemy. Glad that's all the enemies I'll need for this game! time to write the seventeen overloaded functions that can take all seventeen kinds of enemy variable...

>a month later

>this game needs an 18th enemy

>>14432103

I don't get the Tom and Jerry joke

>>14432243

The amount of work needed to load a texture into VRAM formatted correctly. The smallest Jerry is OpenGL which is really simple, then the larger Jerry is for loading a Vulkan texture without any mipmaps. The largest Jerry is for loading a mipmapped texture into Vulkan.

>>14432258

That's what I was assuming, but it seems like you could make a more natural mipmap joke out of that image

>>14432272

Yeah, I should try remaking it some time

>>14432277

Checked and further good luck with the engine, it's looking good

>>14432008

You know what's real fucked?

>bool a, b, c, d = false

^ this shit he keeps doing only assigns the last variable.

>>14432512

Depending on what you're going for, going for brighter colors might help. The current color choice strike me as almost AAA-game-esque.

>>14432512

I like it actually, it's its own style

>>14432542

There's still a greater variety of colors in there than in yours palette. The green is far more saturated and rich, and the browns alternate between lighter and darker, making it seem uneven, like real dirt.

>>14432542

I dunno man that one looks extremely bland

Don't fall for the "pixelshit" meme, there's a reason why people that can't afford artists use it. If it works, it works.

>>14431454

>boy

>>14432582

>>14432549

Maybe I'll just figure out a palette that isn't what indie memes use, eg a full 256 color palette, or just not bother with them at all. I mostly like it because of consistency's sake though

>>14432670

Right, I thought I had lost this but I apparently didn't

http://danfessler.com/blog/hd-index-painting-in-photoshop

This is a pretty amazing guide to make good pixel art without actually knowing what you're doing by using Photoshop and patterns

>>14432891

Imagine the fireball spawns stationary for a second, points at the player's location, then half a second later, moves forward the player at like 5 screens/sec

>>14432891

Dune-style personal shields that perfectly block anything going too fast. Small arms adapted to the new meta by firing slow but powerful energy bullets. Sniper rifles emit a visible particle effect along the firing path before firing a beam with an opposed charge.

>>14432891

>but bullets can't be that slow

It's your game. They can be as slow as you want.

>>14433011

That can be achieved with normal maps and bump maps, no need to add more polygons for that small detail, although if nails are that important they should be made with a separate mesh.

>>14432891

>>14432916

How about a game where you have to pay attention to the enemy shooting animation and dodge when it looks like they're aimed at you and about to pull the trigger (maybe with sound queues too)? This way it can still be hitscan, but you still get to dodge. The dodge mechanic could be based on how predictably you're moving, so any movement mechanic can serve as a dodge mechanic– reversing, crouching/diving, maybe jumping.

https://dimbulbgames.itch.io/where-the-water-tastes-like-wine

>77.93 malaysian ringgits for this crap

>>14433075

he's clearly from pol, why else is he posting totally offtopic videos of indian guys

>>14433088

Devil Daggers doesn't have hitscan enemies, yeah. I guess if the question is, "how do we add depth to hitscan shooting for the sake of realism," you really just have to go some other route. However, if you just want to add depth to a hitscan weapon for the sake of fun, I like my idea, and I'd steal it for myself if I wasn't working on a different FPS concept. But the kind of movement mechanics needed would be pretty acrobatic, not very weighty or momentum-based, so not realistic.

One other thing, say there's a guy who aims for your head and a guy who aims for your legs, and you can't dodge both at the same time. Then they'd just be stuck on a different rhythm for their shooting animations so you can avoid both at the same time.

>>14433125

reddit can be a useful aggregator on a number of topics

>>14433103

That only says that he browses /tech/. Are you new to this site or something?

>>14433125

Even if people on Reddit agreed with me about some issue or the other, I still wouldn't want to post with them. It's not about the stance, but rather the attitude and style of posting that the voting system creates. You can't keep your websites free of them by engaging them- only total intolerance will stop them from changing the existing culture.

>>14433145

Yeah, when you put it that way, I guess there's the question of why you don't boil it down into a Crypt of the Necrodancer type thing. However, I think looseness of mechanics allows for more emergence and player expression, and I wasn't thinking of making everything rhythm based. Just preventing clashes between enemy types.

>>14433178

The upvote-downvote system where unpopular posts are hidden means that people who are used to that format of discussion won't ever try and say things that they think are unpopular. This snowballs into a situation where everybody thinks, or pretends to think, in almost the exact same way, because unpopular opinions slowly get filtered out when people who don't think like the majority consistently have their posts hidden. So, you are talking to people who have been trained by this format to not post what they think if it might be controversial, and also people who think that if they don't agree with you, then your post should be less prominent.

The existing culture is the cultures that you can find on sites like this one, and other sites, that don't use such a format. By having a site full of people who post in accordance with that format, the culture is changed to a culture that you will find on reddit, or hacker news, because most of the people there are just used to those ideas. I want to stop posters from reddit from posting on here because it will create such a situation where the discussion will be more similar to the kinds of discussions that I can find on /r/gamedev or /r/programming, which I don't want to take any part in.

If you want to see an example of the kind of effect that reddit immigrants have, 4chan in general or 8chan /pol/ are both great examples of how posting quality can be ruined by an influx of those users. I know it's more complicated than that but that is the general reason that they are so poor.

>>14433177

Maybe just put clashing attack types into different categories, have those technically run on timers but not be transparent to the player.

>>14433256

Whatever happened to week long bans for not lurking more?

>>14433257

I always imagine a save room as a safe, calm break from the action. This sounds more mysterious, like you're trying to solve a puzzle of some kind.

And personally, I'm not fond of short simple loops like this. Seems like a melody should have kicked in there somewhere.

>Thread made too early

>instead of enforcing rules as written, Mark just locks the old one and keeps this one going

>OP is too new to understand shit

>100 posts of reddit praise and shitflinging, both sides have no place in the gamedev thread and reddit has no place this site at all

>people unironically say its not that bad

Okay then, fuck this shit.

I'm taking my gamedev privately and if this thread/board somehow manages to get worse in that time, I'm not sticking around

>>14433260

>Anyone who is unfortunate enough to have to work with Indians will have a burning passion for them

nice freudian slip, /pol/

>>14433362

seriously this thread is getting derailed. Can we just talk about our games again? Anyone have some progress to post?

>>14433368

Everything is a tantrum to you aspies.

>say no to anything

<LE TANTRUM XDDDDD

>call out anything

<LE TANTRUM XDDDDD

>go against the grain in literally any way, shape, or form

<LE TANTRUM XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD LOL PWNT AND I DONT ACTUALLY HAVE TO MAKE AN ARGUMENT XDDDDDDDDDD

Just admit that tantrums don't exist and they have never happened.

t. A (1) and done who doesn't have emotions, don't waste your time

>>14433416

Don't take it personally, it just seemed appropriate for the situation at hand.

>>14433386

>I personally had a problem concerning circlestrafing - any idea how I can can keep the mechanics that circlestrafing provides yet stop the acceleration that makes bhop possible? My character is physics - based, which means I'd like to maintain velocity that comes from outside the character. That makes velocity capping a little tricky.

Funny, I'm having this exact problem. I'm putting together the physics for my FPS movement, and I just feel kind of stupid doing a

if velocity > max_speed

velocity = max_speed

type thing. There's got to be a better way, right? Like with friction and shit, or logarithmic functions?

>>14433178

Let me break it down for you.

Humans like rewards, and dislike being punished.

On reddit upvotes are rewards and downvotes are punishments. Because you can only see the aggregate votes it either feels like everyone is upvoting you or everyone is downvoting you. The reward/punishment is binary.

People like to fit in. If there is a general mood about something then people who are unsure will follow the crowd. That means something that has a lot of upvotes gets more, and something that has a lot of downvotes gets fewer. Every community is susceptible to this, but it's accelerated on Reddit and disconnected from actually having a conversation.

People can express that they like or dislike something by upvoting or downvoting it. Disagreement would preferably be an actual discussion with arguments, but in this case it can be condensed into a downvote. If someone does actually post that they disagree and theres a back and forth whoever is in the majority opinion will be showered with upvotes and the person in the minority opinion will be downvoted. People coming in and looking at it will then automatically think that the person with downvotes is wrong and the person with upvotes is correct, regardless of the quality of argumentation. Once again, every community is susceptible to this, but it's accelerated on Reddit. Also on an image board you have to post to disagree, which means someone can respond and tell you directly that name calling isn't an argument.

Things with a low score are burred and things with a high score are brought higher. That means that people who don't read every comment, which is pretty much everyone on the larger subreddits, will only really see the things the majority opinion agrees with. See the above about wanting to fit in.

As a general rule on reddit, positivity is rewarded and negativity is punished, except for negativity against a sanctioned group at which point negativity is rewarded. This gives a Pleasantville like attitude to the way they act. It doesn't feel genuine. Everyone is nice, everything is perfect. People are saying what they are saying "for the camera" so to speak. They're playing to their audience. All criticism is filtered through a million compliments and "good jobs". People come to expect that and will post poor quality content and anticipate praise see above spoilers before you go "but this community does this too, only reversed". This gives a "me" attitude to the place. People are invested in the self rather than content directly. All this together results in the worship of certain community individuals, who then become near untouchable to criticism from the general subreddit population.

>>14433534

On the creative forums where people share things they've made I've given calm, well researched, well formulated, and direct criticism, bookended by compliments, and still been told politely to fuck off because "I shouldn't judge the way they want to do something." One time this happened I was telling someone how the fictional military rifle they created wouldn't work, another time I was telling someone how their character needed actual flaws to be interesting, another time I was telling someone they had aimed for a utopia and hit a dystopia. That happened pretty much any time I offered any form of criticism, no matter how polite or well formed it was. It was either ignored (and thus buried, as is the way of reddit), I got a "I'll consider that moving forward but I'm not changing it" which I might add, happened once, or I was told to go away. Very rarely someone would actually accept and internalize criticism when they weren't directly asking for it, and it was either on a very small subreddit or because their work was so bad everyone was telling them. If you search I'm sure you can find exceptions to the rule, but you don't have to search to find examples of the above, and it get's worse on larger subreddits.

The above feeds into another point. Criticism gets buried, unless it's directed at the right groups. There is a cycle on reddit that follows from this

>Reddit latches onto popular show, movie, actor, something

>Criticism directed towards that thing is buried, "just let people enjoy this thing!"

>Posting positive things about this thing is rewarded

>The fact that the criticism is buried emboldens the bigger fans

>It gets to the point where the bigger fans become insufferable

>Now criticism is more accepted by the majority, because people associate the thing with the insufferable fans

>Unchecked hyper-love of that thing is now punished and criticism is rewarded

>Everyone who hated the thing in the first place now feels emboldened

>Huge flood of criticism from the people waiting to be able to post their dissatisfaction without getting buried

>"Lol why did Reddit change it's mind about this thing? Didn't all you guys love this 2 weeks ago?"

>Eventually the critics become insufferable, and it's back to people loving the thing.

This happens all the time, but the process can be accelerated and the cycle broken if someone sufficiently high on the "reddit love" ladder criticizes that thing, that thing fucks up, or problems are categorically proven to be present in it.

t. recovering redditor

Does that answer your question?

>>14433551

Don't get me started on how the average commenter seems to run on markov chains.

>>14433356

>>14433368

>>14433410

This is rottenredditor

>>14433453

Maybe you shouldn't keep acting like a sperg. If people couldn't recognize you by your consistent redditor tier faggotry then you wouldn't get this response.

>>14433588

Stop making posts like you're on a fucking blog. Redeem yourself by making on topic posts without your ego anywhere near them, no one gives a fuck that you're sad about being loud redditor scum

>>14433571

I am aware. It happens on a lot of platforms, but it's faster and worse on reddit. I'm sure if the BBS I visit wasn't a ghost town it would happen there too.

>>14433606

I know you have, because I've had on-topic conversations with you. I've also called you a fag in overwatch threads. I'm also the one who found and posted your reddit account. How do you continue to be such an egotistical outspoken piece of shit?

>>14433677

Si no fuera por lo chilango uno pensaría que me sacaron del norte o algo así

>>14433639

>I could swear it's easier to get cuckchan to rally like that

I'm pretty sure you're right about this but that's not what I'm arguing. Sorry for being so unclear.

I'm saying the experience of the cycle itself is worse. On 8chan a post in a thread can get you dogpiled but you won't get buried because posts are organized chronologically. If you make a thread and that get saged to death or ignored, it will still take a while before it's really gone. Posts on reddit in any moderately sized subreddit are lost in a sea of content in 24 hours, and if people don't like them only a handful of people see them.

Hello I heard yandev 2 was here

>>14433764

Maybe a good way to explain it is, why do you keep coming back? If you could get the same kind of community out of reddit, I bet you would leave and have no reason to come here and get bullied. But this kind of community, and the kinds of posters here, the thing we have, just doesn't exist on reddit. And that's not because of the people on here, but because this is the kind of community that the imageboard format creates and the reddit format destroys. And so when people come onto the board and talk about accepting redditors here, there isn't any sympathy because we aren't just expressing an opinion, but rather defending our community and stopping it from becoming what we hate. I don't think that you will ever get accepted here until you realize that the same reason you keep posting is the same reason everyone wants you to stop- there isn't a kind of middle ground where it can be acceptable to be from reddit culture, with the same kind of community that this place has. 4chan is a perfect example.

I know that I wont just change your mind in one paragraph. But that's really all I have to say about it anymore I guess. Nobody can stop you from expressing yourself- we'll just have this thread again. But I hope you'll think about it.

>>14433821

whenever you start talking about reddit aliens polluting the culture, a few spammers and a couple of (1) posters start showing up trying to shut down the thread. I've seen this happen on /pol/ too. It's probably goons or a dedicated group of redditors.

>>14431920

i had the same issue (random garbage displayed in blender window and flickering), also on AMDGPU

what fixed it for me was setting the Window Draw Method to Triple Buffer (under Preferences -> System)

>this thread

Did cuckchan /agdg/ go down or something?

>>14433838

I know right? I'd usually be happy for an /agdg/ thread to have fast posting but this is ridiculous.

>>14433838

this

>>14433839

I never said I crossposted, I just admitted I use reddit as an aggregator on a number of subjects.

>>14433847

so does literally everyone else but u dont see them telling each other about it

if u browse reddit, and don't post there ur fine.

if u post on reddit, ur a redditor.

if u post here about posting on reddit, ur a faggot.

>>14433844

Look, I know that you think that you are an exception, but you aren't. You do hold the views from reddit that we find abhorrent. You are the redditor that 8ch wants to keep far away. See >>14433433

Sure you might think differently from another redditor. But both of you will share the core reddit values that we want to defend ourselves against. So really, the difference between you and others from reddit is irrelevant. If you really were an exception you would have integrated into this community just fine. But I've known your presence for a year and you have yet to do that.

>>14433857

It's not even about politics. Do you think that we are any more accepting of fags from the_donald? You have to realize that the difference between an anon and a redditor runs much deeper than being a leftist or not.

>>14433897

Again >>14433433 explains it. This is what we really care about- not if you're a leftist or not.

>>14433849

Don't know what this meant.

>>14433850

When in Rome do as romans do. Redditors that want to hang around need to lurk moar first.

ENOUGH OF THIS CRAP, BACK TO NODEVVING

I was contracted to produce two android tablets to be embedded in the walls of a small aquarium that will run a children's game to quiz them at the end of their tour. I optimized the hell of the project and have gotten chinese 14" IPS tablets with RK3399 processors and 2GB RAM, but I haven't started the game development and I'm now 15 days away from the deadline. I'm using Actionscript 3.0 through adobe AIR and Starling engine (essentially mobile devving for flash faggots that haven't migrated to new standards). I'm starting to freak out.

>>14433937

The oak one day says to the reed:

—You have a good right to blame the nature of things:

A wren for you is a heavy thing to bear.

The slightest wind which is likely

To wrinkle the face of the water

Compels you to bow your head—

While my brow, like Mount Caucasus,

Not satisfied with catching the rays of the sun,

Resists the effort of the tempest.

All for you is north wind, all seems to me soft breeze.

Still, if you had been born in the protection of the foliage

The surrounding of which I cover,

I would defend you from the storm.

But you come to be most often

On the wet edges of the kingdoms of the wind.

Nature seems to me quite unjust to you.

—Your compassion, answered the shrub,

Arises from a kind nature; but leave off this care.

The winds are less fearful to me than to you.

I bend and do not break. You have until now

Against their frightening blows

Stood up without bending your back;

But look out for what can be. —As the reed said these words,

From the edge of the horizon furiously comes to them

The most terrible of the progeny

Which the North has till then contained within it.

The tree holds up well; the reed bends.

The wind doubles its trying;

And does so well that it uproots

That, the head of which was neighbor to the sky,

And the feet of which touched the empire of the dead.

>>14433921

A memory game >Choose the protected species in this grid of sprites

A sea cleanup game >Swipe the trash away, but don't kill the crittes!

A fishing game >Fish the adults not the young or the protected species

A simple questionaire

And two others I forgot about.

Not too complicated.

>>14433929

I've just been extremely lazy but thanks for the encouragement. Seriously, thank you.

>>14433953

>fail

>>14433909

Set deadlines. Keep a schedule. You can do it, I believe in you.

>>14433962

I'll do it just to share the result with you magnificent faggots.

>>14433937

If we look at that post you wrote it says that,

>Freedom of speech is a principle, sure, but if you start going on about how niggers are scum of the earth on a public podium, people will show you the door

And, this is how we're hearing you:

<Freedom of speech is a principle, sure, but you should be thrown out if you try and express an "off limits" idea

Talking about that as if it's reasonable, and that you're OK with posting on a site like that, is incompatible with the imageboard idea of absolute free speech.

If were on reddit right now all of your posts would be either deleted outright or pesudo-deleted by hiding them at the bottom of the thread and showing the "comment below score threshhold". Instead your posts are the most prominent in the thread, with everyone engaging you and justifying why this issue is so important stating their case, instead of just silently, passively, hiding your post for having a taboo opinion.

Do you think that your taboo opinions should be immediately deleted or be prominently engaged as the community explains why these taboo's exist? If you believe in the latter, then you shouldn't talk about how it's reasonable for people to show you the door when you bring up a taboo. After all nobody here can make you leave, and we all continue to respond to you.

>>14433953

Don't worry, I bet you can crunch something out in that time.

who here has the highest karma on reddit? don't be shy.

>>14434011

You say you aren't, but then you're writing post after post in acceptance of it. How is a mod/site owner deleting posts he doesn't like not censorship? Yes, the owner can do these things. That doesn't make it not censorship.

>>14434011

>Websites aren't a form of government, they aren't obligated to tolerate what they don't like. I'm not advocating for censorship - there's a difference between that, and what owners of a website do.

Please leave.

>>14434031

>(45)

>not a single post discussing gamedev

i'm not saying there's anything wrong with being a redditor, but you seem to be lost.

>>14434103

meant for (45) >>14434086

SAGE

>>14434080

Websites are exactly like a form of government, and by using a website you are condoning their system by supporting them. The question isn't what the site owner can and cant do, but rather are you OK with how the site owner treats you?

>>14434047

>I mean if you want to call it censorship

It's literally what censorship is. Saying that there is some kind of exception for website owners is just doublethink.

I think that now are you starting to understand the fundamental difference between you and the rest of us? Why you're still an outsider, even after having posted here for over a year?

>>14434121

>If I don't like a website or I'm not okay with the way the website is run, I can always just not visit the website.

And, you continue to visit reddit. So, by your own words, you are OK with the censorship on reddit and OK with the format that reddit uses.

>>14433959

Oh for fucks sake. Aesop's fables are easy enough for children to understand.

STOP

FIGHTING

Adapt to your setting

Bend to the wind

>>14433973

>What about the way I behave?

This is why people here have said you have autism.

When you enter a community, you should be able to tell just by observing them for long enough how you need to act in order to fit in. If the community gets angry at you, it's on you to figure out what you did wrong, not for the people in the community to present their thesis to you like you're a peer review board.

This has been the case for Internet communities since usenet was just accessible to college students. This has been the case for communities in general since man was stabbing mammoths with pointy sticks. You aren't going to change that, and thinking that standing up to the community you're trying to be a part of is going to change that makes the people here think you lack basic human social skills.

Let me tell you something I am ashamed to admit, I came from reddit. I was on reddit for almost 4 years before I nuked my account. For about two years I was posting to both reddit and to 8chan. And yet I was never called a redditor. I was never told to go back to reddit. I lurked, and learned how things worked. There were times I would get too passionate and be called a sperg or post low quality content, but I never acted like a redditor in the eyes of the community.

You're a piece of clay. You can either allow yourself to be molded into a shape that fits, or you can jump into the fire early and harden into something that will never fit.

>>14434080

>I think there's a difference between suppressing an opinion and enforcing rules and guidelines.

You've chosen to jump into the fire.

Each community has ways in which it uses words, and social definitions that may differ slightly from other communities or differ from dictionary. For an extreme example see "Racism = Prejudiced + Power". I know you don't hold that opinion, it's just being used to illustrate a point.

On 8chan the social definition of censorship is the suppression of free expression. Moderation is censorship, enforcing rules and guidelines that results in posts being deleted is censorship, and so on.

Your definition of a word differs from the community definition. Not only that, it's one of the most precious, key, and influential words here. It's a vertebrae that makes up the backbone of this communities speech. And you're definition doesn't line up.

Do you know what this tells me?

You

Don't

Belong

Here

>>14434130

And this is why we don't want you here. We come here for all our ranges of discussion, while you are here just to sperg out about taboo things. That is all you're contributing to this community, like a guest who invites himself over to a house, makes a mess, and then leaves for reddit while everyone else who lives there has to clean up after him. That's what you and all of the other crossposters are to us.

SHUT THE FUCK UP IF YOU AREN'T TALKING ABOUT GAME DEV YOU GODDAMN NIGGERS. YOU FUCKS ARE LITERALLY THE BLACKEST FUCKING NIGGER MONKEYS EVER TO POST. FUCK OFF TO REDDIT IMMEDIATELY AND STOP SHITTING UP AGDG.

I guess reddit DOES in a way ruin the threads, amirite?

>>14434434

>>14434419

>>14434412

>>14434409

I reported both of you. Just fucking stop.

Mark please clean this fucking thread up

>>14433011

its not even textured yet dude

THANKS, COBALT.

I missed most of that, and thank fuck. Thought that shit wouldn't have lasted as long as it did.

Anyhoo, ended up optimizing my mesh from 802 tris to 642 before sleeping. Let's just say I learned not to be retarded with subdivisions, but holy fuck, optimizing tris, is as addicting as cocaine so far. exactly the new dopamine rush i needed nowadays.

Will post pictures once I finish the full room.

>>14434484

I'm personally tired of seeing walls of broken reply links. If I wanted someone to run in front of me and pick and choose what is or is not fit for me to read I would just go to reddit. Frankly it's time we stop trying to cover up the cesspit this place has become with over zealous moderation and let the shit pile get so high we can't just sit around being complacent anymore. By that I mean gas mark race war now

>>14434671

To be fair, anon, the shit was off topic and pushed what's normally a medium-to-slow thread past the bump limit in a matter of hours.

>>14434642

>the fuck shitstorm did I miss?

Not really a shitstorm from what I've seen. Just a thread gradually derailing, but nothing worth talking about.

Let's carry on, shall we?

I won't let something like this get in the way of my good mood. I finally have a team member to help me.

>>14434683

Yeah I didn't mean to weigh in on this specific example, just in general.

>>14434704

>spoiler

Not bad, anon. 50/50 partners or are you the big guy?

>>14434720

Nevermind apparently it's part of the string itself wtf

>>14434715

big guy

>>14434704

>Spoiler

That's really cool. I'd like to work in a team sometime, but the odds of someone having the same autism as you and a relevant skill are low. Its harder to make the creative compromises needed in group efforts when the only driving it is creativity.

>>14434745

Are you paying him, or is he just happy to be along for the ride?

>>14434107

>>14434142

We are now 70 posts below thr bump limit, wow

Anybody got any idea why this

        int currentHash = animator.GetCurrentAnimatorStateInfo(0).fullPathHash;
        Animations.animationList.Find(x => x.Hash.Contains(currentHash));

Gives me this error?

No overload for method `Find' takes `1' arguments

I'm using it exactly as its explained in msdn

>>14434868

Because you are passing more than one argument, anon.

>>14434868

Why bother with LINQ and lambda expressions when you can just store your animations in a dictionary or hashset and find them in O(log n) time with Contains?

I have a surprise sort of cobbled together for 8chanmania XX and I really need someone who is familiar with garbage coding to help me make it work properly. Anyone up to helping?

>>14435014

Which one is the other?

How do I make this work?

>>14435036

Because I've got no idea how that shit works

>>14435014

>>14435146

No, the problem isn't that you pass more than one argument. It says none of the implementations of Find() take only one argument. Look up that Find function's documentation and see what you need to pass.

>>14435166

I have, the code is literally copied from this page

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/bb359438(v=vs.110).aspx

        Console.WriteLine("\nFind: Part where name contains \"seat\": {0}", 
            parts.Find(x => x.PartName.Contains("seat")));

>>14435166

Oh yeah you're right, that was weird phrasing. It wants more arguments.

>>14435180

>ctrl+f Find on that page

>0 results

I don't know man. Did you link the wrong page? I'd assume you meant this one:

https://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/x0b5b5bc(v=vs.110).aspx

I honestly don't know shit about this predicate stuff, but as far as I can gather in their example

>Find(x => x.PartName.Contains("seat"))

effectively turns into

>Find( PartName, PartString )

because that's how their Part class is set up, so maybe you messed up in the implementation of your Hash class?>>14435180

>Find(x => x.PartName.Contains("seat"))

>>14435886

D*scord.

>>14434704

>Let's carry on, shall we?

nope, I want this thread ded,

its a shame that actual gamedevs got buried in the midst of it

>>14434715

>big guy

and yeah, are you paying him or how is this arrangement

I was luck enough to have some people help me in the past, in my completely open-source project

one in particular was essential to dig in into some stuff I had no clue how to work with

we were discussing this on the thread the other day, about how to make community projects work

and having very clear object and guidance is essential to it, giving them clear pointers on how they should be doing whatever they want to do

basically you still end up spending quite a lot of effort just trying to convey that goal, but still worth it when you're able achieve something greater

>>14435886

>disagreement

ew lad….

there is their forum, their Q&A, their reddit,

but definitely the best place to find other real devs there aren't cancer is on their irc channel

>>14435886

What the hell is disagreement?

>>14435980

Time to go back to wherever you came from, newfag.

>>14435676

good to see they're working on banterlord

>>14435980

see

>>14435894

it's a filter.

>>14435970

I don't have a D*scord account, but the Godot channel seems really active. I'd make an account just to use it. The Godot IRC on the other hand seemed totally silent when I checked it out, admittedly briefly.

I'm pretty impatient, so slow forums and Q&As aren't well suited for me. Though I guess when you're doing gamedev and you hit a snag, you can ask a question about it and then just work on a different part of the game until you get an answer.

>>14436002

Nice way to kill any discussion by pulling the newfag card, have done it too.

>>14436153

>I'm pretty impatient, so slow forums and Q&As aren't well suited for me.

I can't get anything from forums or d*scords. That's where shitters go to hang out, and unless you're asking from the perspective of software development you aren't likely to get a decent answer.

>>14436194

>muh style

>>14432891

In my project Memoirs of Magic, all projectiles are non hitscan, including bullet projectiles. They still work pretty well even when super fast.

so was morrowind's UI decent or am I imagining things?

>>14436153

What discussion? You asked a stupid question and got the correct answer; that it's a wordfilter and that you're a newfag

>>14436474

yeah, im trying to fix that, maybe i will have to split this in two stages

>>14431353

Projectiles should come out the centre of the screen

>>14434751

>Are you paying him, or is he just happy to be along for the ride?

>>14435961

>and yeah, are you paying him or how is this arrangement

The short version is this:

Our families are friends so I knew him for a long while, although we never hung out or anything. I knew that he was a CS student, so I reached out to him because I need someone who can do the programming for me.

>inb4 ideas guy needs someone else to program for him

I'm a programmer myself, but (precisely because of the lack of help) taught myself how to 3D model, texture, do basic sound design, etc. The problem is that I can't do everything at once. I'm basically overwhelmed at this point. I'm way behind on my reading schedule (reading lots of books that are relevant to the subjects I want the story to be about), and while I'm modelling, no programming is getting done and vice versa. So I don't want him to do work that I can't do myself, but to take over a part of the work so I can focus on something else.

Anyway, I talked to him half a year ago and he was interested, but we came to the conclusion that he should focus on getting his master's degree first, because things have been rough for him in that department (got sick at the wrong time and couldn't make the deadline). Fast forward half a year to last week. We talked again and his degree isn't much closer, due to some grade-A fuckery going on in the company he works for part time. He's basically writing his master's thesis on the stuff he does there. He needs them for his thesis and it seems like they're willing to exploit that. Basically there are talks about making him an offer that will make them lots of money and cost him lots of time. He also isn't that fond of that job (it's IOT shit) and is really interested in doing gamedev.

So our arrangement is something like this: By the end of the next semester he'll have his master's degree and I'll have my bachelor's degree (also CS). While we're still students we'll work together. In about 6 months we'll decide if it's worth to continue pursuing that, based on where we'll stand.

Alright, this is a really, really long shot, but there's not much documentation and I can't find anything online. I'm using moonscript to allow for user modding in C#. Every mod is contained in its own script, and the engine itself passes them all events. Now, there's a lot of default boiletplate (most objects will have a location, hitbox, health, etc) but I want all this to be changed.

How do I use one Lua script as the default for another? The Lua scripts aren't divided into objects, they're literally sandboxed scripts.

>>14436907

aside from the fact that everyone who can help me is dead, I like how this is going

>>14436907

What do you mean by 'default for another'?

>>14437235

Essentially one script copying all of their functions, word for word, but only if they don't already exist. Turns out Lua just lets me declare functions and variables, and they make the previous set invisible, so I can just unleash my inner pajeet, build a stack of parents, and then run their Lua code for each one

>>14437630

No, I figured out a cheap way around it thanks to how lua works, though.

>>14437662

>>14437630

What you did works exactly because of how Lua is configured to replicate inheritance with metatables and default callers

>>14437788

So it's all intended behavior? It's probably still slow as shit, I can already tell user created content is going to be the main bottleneck.

>>14437805

Lua itself is slow as shit. Unless you compile your code to LuaJIT. I looked at some performance comparisons between languages, and soft-typed dynamic languages ended up being something like 20 times slower than a C variant.

Also, this is what you're doing, no?

https://www.lua.org/pil/13.4.1.html

>>14437829

I'm not too worried about the actual speed of the Lua, since user mods will be more about content than behavior (although they can do both). The main issue is that simply communicating with the Lua VM takes a lot of resources.

>>14438236

I'd take that peasant girl like the manly man I am / 10.

>>14438271

nice.

This isn't fully a gamedev question, but I've been wanting to get into 3D modeling for years but every time I download Blender and read some guides I'm completely lost.

Are there any decent books I can pirate or tutorials I can watch so I can figure out what I'm doing?

>>14438299

just watch video tutorials (make sure they show keypresses) until you get the basic hang of it. also if you stop using blender for more than a week you'll forget all of it, guaranteed. good luck!

>>14438299

You might just be dumb

No, jokes aside, video tutorials seem to be better for this sort of thing, it's a visual art.

I started a bit over a week ago and got the hang of it fairly quickly. I watched this guy. Voice is pretty annoying but he does explain stuff well enough, for me, anyway. I did have to skip back at times to hear the key bindings. I never watched past the beginner series, though, I just did it on my own and learned as I went. Googled things in my limited knowledge of the terminology, learned how to subdivide, knife and then how to optimize tris afterwards. I pretty much learn something new every day.

>>14438384

I honestly do not believe this person exists.

>>14438397

Fucking hell nevermind my retardation.

Of fucking course I saw the issue the second I post it.

The numbers in the dictionary used to be what "Name" was before changed shit about, turns out "Pyro" was the only one I done it for.

>>14438329

>You might just be dumb

I should note I'm not a native English speaker, my native language is Afrikaans

>>14438397

I suggest you read your error message again. Then look at your second image.

In other news my motivation is at an all time low and I hate everything and have accomplished nothing with months of work and will continue to do so. It's a fool's errand

>>14438494

see >>14438407

Thanks anyway m8

>>14438404

Well of course she doesn't. Women can't code.

>>14438450

The majority of /agdg/ is slavs, including me. Technically, English is my third language, since I learned Russian earlier than it, even if I'm better at English nowadays. You have no excuse. Rise above your niggerness, with determination, you can do it.

>>14438565

>A woman developed a lot of popular Atari games

>A woman wrote Uncharted

>A woman was lead game designer for Dragon Ball FighterZ

But Anita will never tell you that though.

>>14438552

>me

>a girl

I wish.

I'd make a patreon and sit on my ass playing vidya while other people do shit for me if I was.

>>14438557

>bez pracy nie ma kolaczy

I keked.

>>14438565

Looking it up, there's a few.

Dona Bailey co-created Centipede, and Carol Shaw worked on River Raid and Super Breakout.

I don't tend to focus on this stuff so I only really know Yoko Shimomura off the top of my head.

>>14438592

>"wrote" Uncharted

What do you mean?

>>14438565

>Are there any female gamedevs?

There's been a whole ton in Japan, for decades now.

None of them make a huge fuss about how special they are, though.

>>14438616

Amy Hennig did writing and creative direction for the Uncharted series. At one point being the lead writer and creative director.

>>14438592

>>14438616

>>14438670

A better example of Amy Hennig's work is probably the Legacy of Kain games. She kept triggering the left by claiming she never experienced any sexism in the gaming industry, only to get fired (by a male, no less) for not being politically correct enough, enabling Naughty Dog to go full poz for The Last of Us.

>>14438510

Looks menacing. Will it also have a smug attack animation?

>>14438675

>real loli

But she's not real and she's hundreds of years old.

>>14438696

Anime loli has never been an age thing.

>>14438696

Don't forget its also a bloodsucking predator.

>>14438729

The loli or the monster?

>>14438743

I think he's talking about game development

>>14438743

One is a horrific, maneating beast to whom truth has no meaning and the other is a frog.

>>14438614

ill make u my grill bby

>>14438614

>wishing to be a girl

>sitting on your ass playing vidya

If you were a girl, consider everything else that would happen in your life and if you were to tread into vidya in the first place.

>>14438770

>pure functions

I worry about this shit sometimes, but in Godot it seems basically pointless. All the base classes are full of state that you directly modify in methods anyway, might as well just put all your state in class variables and then call methods purely for the side effects. That way you can, E.G., put all your player inputs in the same method instead of having to have a bunch of different input methods or returning inputs in an array (very brittle).

>>14438924

This is way better than my method, thanks. Quats are something I still haven't wrapped my head around completely.

>almost a thousand lines of code

>not a single thing onscreen yet

I don't know how you enginefags do it

>>14438992

You gotta stomp the ground before looking for stones to make the foundation before adding dirt to level it before cutting the wood to make the beams before even thinking about the walls nevermind the roof.

>>14438970

The documentation for Quaternions got an update recently, it makes a bit more sense:

http://docs.godotengine.org/en/latest/classes/class_quat.html#class-quat

Remember, Quats are just matrices, all the rules for matrices you learn in linear algebra apply.

>>14438924

Apparently godot 2.1 doesn't have an interpolate_with() function for 3D transforms, looks like I'll have to change some stuff slightly for this to work. Thanks for the info though, I hadn't looked into using quats.

>>14439036

Just use set_transform.

>>14439034

>What are you making specifically?

I'm trying to build my entire game with modding in mind from the start. Just about every game I've seen that supports scripting/modding is convoluted or horribly documented, and more difficult than actually programming. So far I'm still setting the entire system up, along with a few test components. One of my main goals to keep it as simple as possible to add new content.

Every user script is in a sandboxed environment, and they can subscribe to engine events, which cache the proper function and call them when needed. It basically maps to one game object. Ideally, the script/modder won't even need to know when an object is being loaded/unloaded, because the persistent variables will be serialized/deserialized automatically.

function HookLoad()
	RegisterBehavior("HEALTH");
	RegisterBehavior("INTERACTABLE");
end

function HookDamage(hit)
	local dmg = hit.dmg;
	if (hit.type == "FIRE") then
	dmg = 0; -- Don't take damage from fire
		if (components.FIRE ~= nil) then
			RegisterBehavior("FIRE"); -- But we can still catch on fire
		end
	end
	vars.health = vars.health - dmg;
	return vars.health;
end

I'm trying to make everything as modular as possible. Virtually anything in the game would be able to catch on fire, for example. It's probably overkill.

>>14439094

So, what language are the mods in? What language is the main engine in? And what API's and platforms is the engine using?

It kind of looks like you are writing this mod system first instead of writing code to draw something on the screen. Maybe write some code to get a triangle up first and then integrate that with your modding system. This does look pretty interesting although I think that you should get something on the screen just to get that confidence up, I don't think you should defocus on the extensibility at all while writing any thing though, you are right about how you have to design every single component with this system in mind, from the ground up, to do it right.

>>14439142

I'm using Lua for the modding and C# for the actual engine. I was considering using Unity, since the gameobject/compoent stuff is already built in.

>>14439208

C# sounds like a kind of odd choice for writing an engine but in the end it has a lot more to do with what you're making, what are the kinds of goals you have? Will it be 2D, 3D?

A highly moddable unity game sounds interesting but it kind of begs the question: why don't I download unity at this point? Since, it sounds like the kind of thing you want to do is on the engine level, and not on top of the engine. But, I don't really know.

>>14439323

>C# sounds like a kind of odd choice for writing an engine

Mind explaining, anon? I haven't started writing my engine yet, but that's what I was planning to use. What would you recommend instead?

>>14439381

ArnoldC

>>14439381

I don't personally use C# myself so, you will have to take this with a grain of salt, but, it just doesn't seem to be the kind of language that makes it convenient to do the kinds of programming that you will be doing when writing an engine.

In general all of the API's that I am using when writing my engine are written in C, basically everything in the operating system, and the graphics API's that I am using are also written in and designed around C/C++ programming. So, it seems like it is much more convenient and natural to be writing in the language that these systems are designed around. When you write an engine your code is much more low level and so your program will be somewhat of a foreigner surrounded by a C world it has to interact with through abstraction layers / bindings.

And, I in general don't really like garbage collection, but especially in a game engine garbage collection is a pretty bad idea. Since, the code has to be rather fast, and you should be aware of all of your memory allocations. Running your VM and managed language over a C++ base like in Unity of course doesn't ruin performance, but when the game is written in a managed language to its core, you get minecraft-tier performance.

I would say that any compiled language that can properly interface with the C API's that are the building blocks of all our game engines would do fine, probably C++ would be the best option if you want to have a lot of data structures and niceties that you are used too from C# while still having the expressive power necessary to do everything easily.

Granted a lot of this advice only applies if you want to write some ambitious engine that is going to push your target hardware pretty hard, or something like a fully 3D engine, if you just want to make a 2D platformer then I don't think C# could hold you back.

is C# like a trendy Java? Is it compiled at runtime?

>>14439489

lots of people say it's nicer than Java, but I don't think you can call anything as Windows-bound as C# "trendy." Kotlin is more what I'd call trendy Java.

>>14439489

It's essentially a nicer version of Java.

>>14439647

It's not Windows-bound though. Only the .net runtime is, which is the standard implementation. Mono is an open source, cross platform one.

>>14439666

>It's not Windows-bound though.

I didn't say it's Windows-only. All I meant is that much of the popular C# ecosystem still is, or is poorly ported.

>>14440074

Holy shit,congratulations,what's your game?

>>14440074

post gaem

>>14440075

>>14440076

this, post gamu.

>>14440163

>game concepts without a prototype category

that might be the laziest thing i've ever heard.

>>14440163

That better be one golden fucking idea, mate.

What is it?

>>14440201

Don't worry about it.

>>14440233

Within the context of the the thread and the educational nature of the post, does this count as an artistic nude that need no spoiler?

>>14440163

>I'm the isometric western dev

isometric western dev lives! I'm glad

>>14440256

Well technically anything lewd can be considered artistic depending on how open minded you are.

>>14440283

>>14440256

well, I don't fucking know

I usually always forget to spoilers newds, but I get away with it by not posting offensive shit

I thought the thread was over 300, so sorry about that

>>14440344

Don't worry about it,only a faggot would consider it "just smut" and not art.

Godot's tileset function is crap. There are some tools for external map making right? What do you guys use?

>>14440377

Regardless of smuttiness, it's tough on nofappers.

>>14440534

I have extreme doubts anybody would get off to just a pair of non animated tits.

>>14440539

You'd be surprised. When you're wrestling with your own lust and self-control you can get very concupiscent. I've lost weeks of mastery on the stupidest nudes.

>>14440308

Do it faggot

sage for off topic

>>14440550

>>14440534

Why would you not fap? It's unhealthy not to cum at least once every couple days, most people do it daily.

>>14440639

I've seen conflicting things on whether or not it's healthy to do so,nothing from official doctors or medical experts.

>>14440752

Who's the father.

>>14440904

me

>>14440926

Congrats,i hope you aren't black.

Get out normalfags quit blogging.

>>14441025

How the FUCK does a rock beat a tree.

>>14441025

>having a girlfriend doesn't make you a normalfag

wew

>>14441031

Landslide?

>>14441025

do u know how to cook IRL?

>>14441031

stone axe

>>14441080

I usually only bake and prepare meat. Steaks, etc. Everything else I don't have much expertise in.

>>14441265

*bake sweets and pastries and such

I can't quite pin the word for "flour-based baked goods" in English, sorry

>>14440534

>nofappers

nofap is dumb, speaking of experience in both /fit/ and sexual regards

it doesn't help shit, and it only makes it worse if you're struggling and crawling the walls

what is actually bad is fapping and porn addiction, where you end up spending too much energy and motivation with it

so the ideal way to counter this is focusing on other things, like work and expending energy with /fit/ exercises

that way, you can get through the day without even thinking about it, and feeling more vitalized for the next day

still don't hold back on doing it every 3~6 days, avoid porn too and let it come naturally,

and if you have somebody to have sex with, the relation will be much better

>>14441025

>culinary system to my game

one of the best culinary system I've ever seen is in the Project Zomboid game

but it requires a mental state statuses to the character to justify it, good food well done, makes you happier/satisfied for longer

while shit meals do not help or may even make it worse, whilst depression and fear being factors in game

>>14441265

well, learn to cook IRL and you'll see what makes cooking interesting.

>>14441329

I understand the general basis to what cooking is all about. However, cooking in a game cannot be as complex as it is in real life - real life isn't fun when ported 1:1 into a game.

>>14441320

Can you actually prepare food in the game? If so, how is it done?

>>14441346

maybe you should watch some recipes videos and wonder how to make it gameplay.

>>14441360

I mean that's what I'll have to do if inspiration doesn't hit me spontaneously. I'm asking here in hopes of there being an ideaguy with an idea just like that on the tip of his tongue.

>>14441431

well, you said you lack any real cooking experience, maybe you should watch some cooking videos, or some of those master chef tv action shows to see how to make cooking exciting.

>>14441025

Ask the guy who's making the model with the boob slider, he's an expert on simple cooking systems :^)

>>14441499

I said I lacked expertise. Doesn't mean I can't do it, or don't understand the general premise. I've been cooking since I was a kid. My point is adapting a real world thing into a game and making it fun. That's not very easy to do, hence why I'm fishing for ideas that someone might already have.

>>14441585

cooking isn't fun though

>>14441585

mmmaybe a Breath of the Wild thing? Mix ingredients at random and see what fun dishes come out. Ingredients' health benefits would add (maybe synergize in the right combinations, which BotW missed) and some ingredients can give special status effects.

>>14441595

Cooking is awesome. The boring part is the logistics of getting the ingredients and deciding just what to prepare (maybe also the cutting).

>>14441618

Now the thing is - to be comfy, it has to make sense. Mixing oranges, steak and oatmeal shouldn't make a good meal. I'm trying to come up with a set of attributes that can be given to various ingredients that will organically produce "natural" sounding dishes but I can't quite get there.

>>14441595

It can be.

>>14441627

>Now the thing is - to be comfy, it has to make sense. Mixing oranges, steak and oatmeal shouldn't make a good meal.

A simple way of handling that would be to have a main ingredient and then secondary ingredients that influence the result. A really simple example would be just to modify the result and give a bonus or penalty depending on how well they go together.

>Main: Steak

>Secondaries: Pepper (+25% result)

<Main: Chicken

>Secondaries: Chocolate (-100% result)

>>14441595

t. soyboy

>>14441645

Seems like this will spiral out of control extremely quickly, considering that it'd require hardcoding for every ingredient to match.

>>14441627

The dumbest possible solution is just that you have a pair ranking for every single pair of ingredients, and to find out how good of an idea a recipe is you take the average of all ingredient pair rankings of any two pairs of ingredients in your dish. Would probably work aside from being a massive pain in the ass to set up.

>>14441664

Don't bring that garbage in here.

>>14441595

>>14441681

ironically what >>14441664 says

i hate cooking, but the cooked meat in my local supermarket is always stuffed with soy

>>14441666

Well at some level you're going to need information on what ingredients go together. If you don't want to handle that then just have an end result that requires specific ingredients and don't allow and custom mixing.

>>14441666

>hardcoding

more like a parsed .txt!

No matter what you choose to do, if you want a cooking mechanic with degrees of success/failure you will need a database of ingredient compatibility.

>>14441672

Also I can't believe I'm recommending BotW, but maybe you should emulate it to get an idea of what they did. For instance, meat + any vegetable mix gets you the same dish.

>>14441733

That sounds like squandered potential in a game that revolves around sandbox. I doubt people who like roleplaying would be satisfied with that.

>>14441666

I sense that Everyday: Life 2.0 is on the horizon

>>14441730

That pic makes me worry you'll get autistic about it. It doesn't have to be that complicated, though it's starting to sound like you have no clue about cooking in general, which is a risky thing. You can't make a mechanic simulator without knowing about cars.

>>14441744

I do understand cooking in general. The point is - my intuitive understanding of it won't help much in breaking it down into strict categories. I won't necessarily get too autistic about it, I just really want to be able to add as many ingredients as I want, give them stats, and then not worry too much about individual interactions because the system will just work.

>>14441751

I'm gonna take a look, anon. Thanks for letting me grab ideas.

>>14441768

just have some recipes and put ingredients in diferent categories like meat, fuit, veggies, grain, diary and then if you have diferent ingredients that have common cathegories then it works.

but then also the NPC has some preferences, like they like more fruit or a certain type of meat, so the effect of that dish is better or worse.

like some NPC becomes sick with chocolate.

jesus christ, have some imagination.

>>14441791

I have plenty, it's just that ideas alone don't carry systems. There needs to be a concrete, robust model to mount this on, otherwise it's gonna be a big fat headache.

>>14441737

It is indeed barely above shittiness. I was just talking about the cooking which is mediocre but the most advanced example I know of >>14441751 is the best example of n indepth cooking system I know but it looks really complicated. You don't want to intimidate your player, either.

>>14441768

Figure out what stats the cooking is going to affect. Is it only health? Then do it BotW style by finding recipes online that combine your ingredients and have those as good mixes.

>>14441799

is just cooking, don't be a retard.

don't overthink shit.

make a prototype first.

>>14441720

>a database

I don't think you understand the level of pajeet we're dealing with here. Anyone have that screencap of cookinganon's code?

>>14441834

just make some prototype and make tests.

you can spend hours ideaguying the pefect design but nobody will make sure people will enjoy it.

>>14441840

Yeah actually I'm with this guy, make a prototype before thinking everything through. We will all give you different takes that won't correspond to whatever you have in mind.

>>14441838

Makes all that bullying worth it in the end, doesn't it? You should post the whole thing now.

>>14441840

>>14441850

fair enough. I just gotta pick something before I code it, you know? I can't just make a prototype out of nothing. There has to be a basic principle.

>>14441864

you don't need to make a cooking game with hundreds of ingredients, retard.

>>14441864

Start simple: make an ingredient class with 2 properties, calories and water content. You can add more shit later. Make a list of possible ingredient combinations and assign whatever "deliciousness" values to each.

>>14441880

And you don't need to be so snarky about me trying to be careful and jot everything down on my GDD before puking up code.

>>14441883

Got that much already. Just trying to think of how to handle the "make cooking fun" bit.

>>14441857

I would change it even without the bullying, i just wanted to make it playable fast

>>14441895

maybe you need to read a little on what makes a game fun, it seems you don't have a clue about it.

there's a book called "A theory of fun"

>>14441919

what happened to the anon doing this game btw? it was supposed to be a horror game right?

>>14441908

>"A theory of fun"

Wonder what it says. I always understood fun as the effort to achieve a goal that's rewarding in small ways.

>>14441933

It was a group of anons working on a RE-styled horror game yeah, and like most anon-led projects it just died out due to people being busy and disappearing I think.

>>14441941

Sometimes simple, but strong feedback can be fun

Like a game where killing monsters have a satisfying chopping sound and juicy animations, can be very fun but these get boring fast if the gameplay is not deep enough

>>14441933

It was a team of people. Here's what the wiki has.

http://8agdg.wikidot.com/anonymous-horror-team

>>14441952

Oh shit i has been ages since i updated my wiki page, thank you to the anon who did the recent updates

>>14441952

>>14441968

>my game has been moved to mods

Oh, okay.

>>14441949

That's the Blizzard conundrum: They get the little things right (how units move and die in SC2) but the greater game is shit (esports garbage).

>>14441839

A matrix wouldn't be a bad solution; it might become a bit unmanageable though. Also it probably won't scale very well if there are multiple methods and ways to combine ingredients. "Combining" ingredients could be anything; he'd likely need multiple matrices for different methods of combination (e.g. stewing meat and pepper is +2, while frying is +1 (and what about cooking time?)) Anyway, I'm sure he'll come up with a robust system to handle this shit. Also that pic reminds me of game-theory.

>pareto-optimal cooking.png

>>14441907

>I would change it even without the bullying

No you wouldn't have, you goddamn liar. I distinctly remember you arguing that your precious cooking formulas couldn't be represented as data.