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Who's this game creator again?

Do they have a account we can find, like Twitter or Pixiv?

>>14345945

They go by the name of Noa, i used to think it was a girl but im not actually sure.

I only know that this is their youtube channel https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0iAe-PJR8MiRcpifYx8Y_g

>>14345918

>Favorite pet to fight?

Little girl, of course.

>Favorite pet to fug?

Black angel.

>Is Shena's ass really the best?

No, Lulwy has the best one.

>>14345945

It has credits in main menu.

>>14345955

She also has an official site where she posts shit about the Elona sequel/spinoff she's working on.

http://ylvania.org/en/elin

>>14345955

>>14345965

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Noa

Wiki says he's a dude, though who knows how accurate the wiki is

I think people are getting confused with noa and ano…

How long does it take to get into this game?

>>14345965

En version doesn't have updates after 2016 apparently.

Anything new on http://ylvania.org/jp/ ?

>>14345992

Jap site has a playable build of the new game, apparently. It's barebones, but it's something.

http://ylvania.org/jp/devlog/post/16/-1-7

>>14345918

>Welcome to Elona, a Japanese sandbox roguelike that let's you marry your pet fighter jet.

You've intrigued me, is it a an actual fighter jet or a anime girl calling herself a fighter jet?

>>14345989

It's not all that hard to learn, even easier if you're already used to roguelike controls.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Controls

Use this page to get used to which keys do what and hop in. If you want video tutorials check out the embed

>>14346002

An actual jet that shoots guns and throws grenades. Although if you want it to be an anime girl you can download your own sprite and shape change it

>>14345989

Depends. If this is not your first roguelike then you just need to relearn some key shortcuts and how spell works, along with some basic survival skills like not forgetting to eat and that some food rots if you keep it in your inventory for too long. Mostly change your mentality of "dead and start over" from other roguelikes and understand this is open ended, where game is not balanced around permadeath so it penalizes you for dying instead, and that you need a stable income to buy food and pay taxes when you are high level enough for taxes to apply

>>14346002

It's an actual fighter jet.

Unless you change its sprite into jet anime girl.

It will take a while to get it though.

>>14346002

An actual jet.

>>14346002

You can befriend, ride and marry any npc in the game. Little girls, horses, dinosaurs, mechas, sentient bikes, little sister, dragons, eldritch horrors, robots. And the game is very easy to customize if you spend a few minutes reading so you can quickly and easily change their sprites and conversation lines and turn then into other characters like Madokas

>>14346029

You will die a lot on your first time but thats normal. There are no penalties for dying nor taxes until you reach level 6 so feel free to die in as many dumb ways as you can until then.

Everyone just lets their starter pet/ally/waifu tank hits anyway. Dont worry about your pets dying too much, you can bring them back to life at the local bar for very cheap, the only penalty for them dying is that their relationship with your goes down and it takes a while early on to raise it. Not an issue if you are not in a hurry to marry them, just a set back.

>>14345918

I like seeing the meme I made on the second pic still being posted.

Every time I feel a bit bad about messing up in mspaint and not drawing the line over the very bottom of the map, though.

>>14346075

Nobody ever goes to Larna so its accurate

Hory shit, meditation and healing are both limited by their governing stats and cannot be higher than it. Did anyone else know this?

>>14346089

I didn't. Is this the case for every skill? I've never had a skill higher than its governing attribute

>>14346093

No, appears to be a special case for the two regen skills. There's code for those but not for other skills.

>>14346053

These controls are really awkward so far, I feel like I'm playing a PC game from the 80's.

I also just got killed by some metal looking blob in my own house, so that's a great start.

>>14346330

The easiest way is to use the numpad for movement, pressing 5 for waiting/skipping a turn and 0 to pick up stuff. * for aiming if you are using ranged weapons. 7 and 9 also scrolls through different menus when you have one open so that you already have all of that on one hand in a layout that makes sense

>>14346357

I already read the controls so I know how to move, I'm just saying it feels awkward.

I accidentally attacked somebody when I meant to talk to them and they turned me into pieces of meat, I'm getting some DF vibes so far.

>>14346370

welcome to roguelikes mah boi

>>14346370

They were already hostile, you can tell because it's hard to accidently attack someone. Unless you used ranged weapons.

>>14346376

>Welcome

I played a lot of classic 80's and 90's ones like NetHack, I had the same issue there but usually the controls are something I can overcome in a few days.

>>14346397

Talking about astral light pens, what's the best way to raise gwen's relationship level? I want to make a copy of her before completing the main quest because there is no other way to get her once you have.

Everytime I get out of character creation and finish the lore dump, my game crashes with a line of unintelligible text. Does anyone know how to get past it?

>>14346442

What did you do to it? Did you just unzip it or have you tried putting custom on it?

Any other information? It's not really much to go on. What was the text?

>>14346434

It should actually be possible to use the statue if you destroy the wall tile they are on. Not that usefull though…

>>14346474

What's the elona custom zip called? If iirc the latest version was put into the thread on the wiki rather than the usual upload, should be fixed by now but check what the versions are.

Any chance to get a screenshot/textdump of the error message?

>>14346503

looks like moon to me, try settign the locale to japanese and see if it makes any more sense (it'l be in jap ofc but you can just translate it).

You made sure the version numbers for custom and elo+ match (they should both be 1.75.something if you are using the latest version)? Just to make sure, you are launching it from ElonaC right?

You havn't done anything else to it?

>>14346503

Also try just lanching it from elona+'s exe (if necessary unzip it again for a fresh install). That way we can tell if it's a problem with plus or custom.

>>14346534

It's called ursury

>>14346530

>they should both be 1.75.something

My Elona+ file itself is 1.71

>>14346530

>>14346493

Its possible some files with jp filenames got extracted with garbled text. Using 7zip or changing the locale for extracting should fix that.

>>14346559

And your elona custom?

>>14346503

Run compatibility settings and set it on Windows 7.

>>14346571

That worked, thanks for the help.

>>14346530

Where do you get version 1.75 from?

>>14346675

https://www.axfc.net/u/3878610.zip

>>14346726

>Hemorrhage

I hope you have healing…

How much damage is it doing to you?

>>14346754

Quite alot of damage if I don't have any cure available. The more I'm bleeding, the more damage blood stream does, and on top of that, thanks to Brave, the lower my HP, the more damage I do.

>>14346706

How come it's not in the OP wiki?

>>14346817

I fucked up the link, that was my bad

For the token of friendship receipe does the material box have to be full? Or empty?

>>14347093

Pretty sure it can be empty

>>14347093

As far as I know none of the recipes requiring containers need them to be full.

>>14347105

>>14347109

Thanks, gonna need to gather a bunch now and increase my crafting skills…

Jeweler is pretty simple but the others might take a while, any ideas how to speed level them?

I've been playing the game for awhile now and it seems like preaching is a good way to make money, but I keep getting assholes throwing rocks at me.

How many tokens does it take to get someone to soulmate level?

>>14347150

If you're still playing: Preaching and Performing essentially share the same mechanic, while preaching is based on will and faith performing is based on charm and performer. If the skills arn't high enough (the skill has to be ~higher than the audience members level) they will throw rocks at you and interrupt you.

Is there a way to counter god regular enemies?

Because they are the only ones that seem to kick my ass.

I would tell you to get a living weapon and level it up to do extra damage to gods but it's a pain in the ass to level up

>>14347639

It's actually a pain in the ass just to find living weapons in general.

>>14346534

the Japanese think Jews are wizards because they both have big noses and robes.

Anyone have that monster girl graphics set?

>>14347924

So how do you use this? Drop the image somewhere?

>>14348168

replace character.bmp with it in the /graphics folder

make sure to make it a .bmp

>>14348190

But I gotta crop the images myself one by one or I just copy/paste it into /graphics with .bmp extension?

I would actually paste it over your current one since it's too small for elona+ 1.75.

>>14348168

You may want to be careful replacing NPC sprites, that sheet could be outdated. It's not a huge problem if you're willing to open up an image editor and fix it to match the current version, but if you don't feel like going through the trouble it may not be worth it

>>14348219

you don't have to crop shit, just save it as character.bmp

There is a file in your graphics folder called "character.bmp". You need to replace this file with the current file although, as previously mentioned, you should open your current one, paste the new one int it and align it since that sheet is a little outdated and therefore missing the bottom couple of rows (which will cause some of the enemies and other characters to turn invisible, probably… might actually crash your game if you encouter one I don't know).

Also when you export the bmp afterward do not write colorspace information and export with 24 colours.

I'm creating a gunner character and I'm not sure what combat roll to keep. There's 10d2+2 which seems superior (12-22) or 2d8+3 +6 perception. Am I stuck with those? What's better?

>>14348282

It depends on your starting equipment and does not affect the game in any even short term or permanant way so take the one with the highest average damage (which is x/2 + xy/2 + damage mod, where x and y are number and sides of dice).

>>14348297

Thanks, I wasn't sure if it was gear or not. Does age and height affect nothing?

>>14348306

Affects nothing to anyones knowledge. You can actually change them later with certain items (or a wish if you want to waste one).

>>14348339

Its good policy to ALWAYS compare the old and new ones, in case new monsters with new spriters were added and you dont wanna overwrite those with a white square.

Just mined more than half a floor of a forest dungeon to find one golden acorn… and it sells for 7k, good use of time.

Also just checked seven league boots take 2/3rds the time dal-i-thalion take to travel the world map.

I don't know if any newer players are playing but I figured out something way later than I needed and that is "So and So's [X] quest" .. I thought I would have to do something special, but any [X] works, so most of these quests can be solved very easily if you just pick up the (commonly used) materials as you see them.

>>14348484

When my loli got a wish from a well.. it took me 20 mins to figure out to wish for but I went for 7league boots because everyone said it was the thing to do on the wiki.

>>14348575

I know, I was just curious as to the actual differece.

Wearing two rings with the garoks hammer upgrade and a pair of seven league boots allows you to travel from port kapul to vernis in 11 hours and 45 mins.

I can't actually work out the formula for this, the rings have +400 each so the total for that should be 1300.

>try to pray

>You don't believe in God

how do I make my character not a fedora

>>14348746

20 squares north of the embassy is a "church" to pick the god you want.

>>14348782

>pick the god you want

Isn't this game based in a Christian nation?

Struggling through the tutorial currently. Have the bow equipped as well as the arrows yet it keeps telling me I need to equip a ranged weapon when I press fire.

>>14348794

You can fuck little boys so I suppose you could pretend to be a Christcuck.

>>14348798

Did you equip it on the "shoot" slot?

>>14348803

That was it. Kept equipping it to arm, didn't see the shoot one. Thanks for that.

>>14348813

>>14348803

hmm, if you equip shotguns to melee does it shoot if you run into mobs.. gotta test that

>>14348828

There's some melee weapons/shields you can even equip as throwing weapons.

>>14348828

No, you just whack them with it.

>just got Blood Stream

>first cast does ~300 damage

>second does ~900

>third does ~1200

>hits everything in a line

Holy FUCK this thing seems dumb.

>>14349362

>a Harakiri drops immediately afterwards

>>14349362

You still have to be strategic on when to spam it, because it does drain quite a bit of your SP.

If you run out of SP and get into "very tired" with a bunch of high level monsters around, you are fucked.

>>14349362

Also violent garden can be a pretty effective crowd control if you level up gardening and learning, which you will alot.

>>14349447

>res magic

absolutely great find.

You'll need a material kit to give it a superior function though.

>>14345984

Just need an oan and the clusterfuck is complete.

>>14347632

look em up on the wiki to see which resistance to stack against em? I brute force dogpile em with 10 overlevelled pets for god heart farming

>>14349447

Fucking hell nice, and not even one downside

A couple of times I run into a vendor on the road with a decent or good item upgrade.

>wonderful jacket of power <but homo>

<save cash for later.

Am I a homophobe?

>>14349947

You can use scrolls of name if those really bother you you anti-gay voldemort i can't even

>>14350019

>a rock that invokes ice bolt on like a 5% chance

Hilarious.

How do I equip my followers with items?

>>14350138

interact with 'i', press enter when highlighting inventory, give them items and they'll equip.

>>14349447

God damn nigga great find, some great stats on that

>>14350019

Well they can't all be winners

>>14350568

Wait til you get a room full of nether hounds or suicide yeeks, there's fun.

>>14350644

>room full of suicide yeeks

Dude FUCK the yeeks' nest quest

I take it the chat server went down again, how long until another one comes up?

>>14349362

Also, some enemies can use it too, and it can be just as devastating. Thankfully they're too stupid to abuse it.

>>14350730

Who knows, really. The guys on the wiki blog haven't said anything since october.

>>14351687

Either pick poison damage and nothing of it, or follow earlier thread advice and put it all into godslayer.

>>14351746

nothing but it*

>>14351687

>>14351746

I think the wiki says that it dosn't actually matter what the magnitude of the "massive damage against x" is, it will always deal an extra 50%.

If it's already at +15 it might just be a good idea to increase enchant level since there is no way to completely negate phys damage.

how do I store items goddamn it

>>14352282

Items you drop in your house will never disappear, so that's a good place to start.

>>14352282

Just place the items on the ground in your house.

>>14352293

… The starting cave counts as your house as well.

>>14352292

>>14352293

So I can't put items in containers, I just drop them on the ground?

It's been a long time since I played a game where you had to do that.

>>14352315

there are only three furniture items that I know of that have a storage function: a potion rack, bookshelf and the fridge. apart from those everything else has to be placed on the ground. You can't use multiple of them either since they open the same inventory, they also only work in your home.

>>14352407

Didn't mean to spoiler that.

I gotta be honest, I'm fucking hating this hunger mechanic. It really doesn't feel like it needs to be there.

>>14352421

It's good that it is though, it's a sandbox game and there are more mechanics attached to it. Like cooking, eating (which give attribute bonuses), farming, dungeon diving preperation or carrying around cargo which makes ambushes more likely. It would feel wrong if it wasn't there.

>>14352421

It makes the start of the game hard, but after you get well enough off it becomes far less of an issue.

>8 or so characters down

>Still no living weapon

Gas me, I'll post my character in a sec and anons can bully me if my build is bad

>>14352568

Don't worry about these.

They are stupidly rare.

>>14352613

They increased the drop rate and decreased the usefullness recently, which I think kinda misses the point of them.

Can you still get <Ragnarok> after killing Zeome?

>>14352727

Yes, you need to kill {Whom dwell in the vanity} in Vernis for it.

Good luck. Try to avoid Let's Ragnarok!.

>>14352764

Other than starting etherwind, doesn't it just summon monsters around level 50 or so?

>>14352764

But won't he dissepear once I enter act 2?

>>14348481

Oh yeah I just remembered this, it worked fine. Thanks. Miracles never ever

>>14352772

It 'brings an end'. Absolute, end

>>14352772

Yes, it does.

>>14352782

When I look at wiki, I start to think he does.

Also <Ragnarok> is replaced with <White Hawk>.

I sometimes question Elona+ devs development decisions.

Unless it's explained in story somehow.

>>14352850

Well in the story it might make sense so I think this is the least questionable design descision elona+ has had yet. That's not setting the bar particularly high though.

When specifically does Act 2 begin? I've never completed the main quest line before but I know that I should be capable of killing Zeome now.

>>14352913

>When specifically does Act 2 begin?

After you finish Lesimas and there is 3 years time skip.

So buying ranch and setting some pet in it before that is recommended.

That reminds me, I never finished Act I. I had too much fun being crazy maniac majority of time.

>>14352964

I have been playing for years, have a few farms, ranchs and stores, so many allies and still enough charisma to get a few extra ones for gene engineering. Never went back in lesimas after the second visit.

>>14353074

What is it supposed to do once it's hp drops below 10%?

What if it's more than one space away, making it unable to melee?

Did you tell it to preserve target? Because you shouldn't in this case. The action should be set to "and", with the next line reading "target distance = 1 attack(melee)" with preserve entity as target set to "on". Then tell it to leg it if it's o low health (10% is way to low though, try something around 40%).

Correction: the thing about running away should be at the top wince the conditions are evaluated in order.

If I were going to make a bell ai:

Self HP < 40% Move(Away)

Target Distance > 2 Attack(Ranged) "Preserve entity as target: On"

Self HP > 80% and

Target Distance = 1 Attack(Melee)

Target Distance <= 2 Move(Away)

I havn't checked this so can someone point out if it wouldn't work?

My pet is acting suicidal and it's really annoying me, she keeps running off and getting herself killed.

>>14353187

I noticed a flaw in it actually. For enemies like gunfish it would get stuck in an endless cycle of shooting, getting damaged and running away so setting it up to melee by default would be better.

So something like:

Self HP < 40% Move(Away)

Self HP < 80% and

Target Distance > 2 Attack(Ranged) (Preserve target)

Self HP < 80% Move(Away)

Target Distance = 1 Attack(Melee) (Preserve target)

Target Distance != 1 Move(Forward)

What's a good build for a new player?

I'm currently level 7 with about six hours put in, but my character is shit and I'm planning to make a new one.

>>14353227

All I've ever played have been Fairy Claymores but that's probably not a good idea.

A good class to pick is the predator since it increases your criticals. Depending on what kind of character you want to make you should go for one with high starting hp and good speed (so no golem). You can change classes and their class feats later with a buisness card.

>>14353231

I'm not amazing at making custom AI myself so take what I have to say as mild suggestions on how it might work, that said I think it will need to be told to do something if its distance is greater than one and its HP is greater than 40%.

>>14353227

Play as a tourist snail until you hate the game enough to pick something else.

>>14353231

Put an always true condition at the end that makes it move forward and see what happens.

>>14353227

heaving one of the firebreath perks at the start helps early on

>>14353247

Believe me, I'm already starting to hate it.

There are glimpses of fun but it's such a frustrating game to play. All my friends tell me it gets great past the beginning, but I'm sick of being killed by random hunger demons out in the middle of nowhere.

I want to give the game one last shot with a new character, after that I'm willing to give it up.

>>14353258

I mean a much more general sense, like what skills are useful. I'm still not sure what everything does and what I should focus on.

>>14353272

>I'm sick of being killed by random hunger demons out in the middle of nowhere.

Don't forget the public performers!

>>14353272

Make a Yurles Warrior on Overdose difficulty and play for about 3-4 hours. That will help you decide if you actually like the base game. After that I'd switch to any build you want to try on regular difficulty while keeping in mind that it will be a slog, but this is a game meant to be at least 50 hours long to get anyway, and more than that if you're playing a weaker class/race set up.

>>14353289

Remove second line

>>14353295

I wouldn't advise this, people generally get bored quicker when they play with cheats or easy mode.

>>14353317

I only suggest it because it sounds like he doesn't like roguelikes anyway.

>>14353289

>>14353300

To be more specific: the second line executes whenever the first line dosn't so it never gets to the third or fourth lines. It also overlaps in functionallity with the fourth line and shares it's condition with the first which has to execute before it making it utterly redundant.

>>14353325

He never will if you make him not like it. It'd be like telling someone to play a "hard" game (lets take souls, yes I know it's a meme, as an example) and when they fail using a program to freeze their HP. Without needing to think past the challenges, as you need to do with hunger in elona for instance, the game becomes boring.

>>14353360

I don't know if I'd say it's quite like that, although I understand your point. What I said was still legitimate gameplay, however, which I think could be at least a test measure of if he could actually get into it. It's not like I'm telling him to use wizard mode, and again I didn't suggest it for long term, either. Just as a way for him to see if he actually enjoys what's there or not.

>>14353379

Fair point. To learn the basic mechanics it's probably fine, it just has the danger of not wanting to lose all the stuff or the character you have obtained by that time which might make him less inclined to abandon the save. All in all I'm not an expert on this (nor any actually) subject so if he enjoys playing on overdoes then that's his "problem" anyway. Not like elona is a game that you should play in a particular way anyway.

>>14353419

A modification of various other UIs and UI elements (and elements that were never meant for UIs). In other words it dosn't exist anwhere. It's mainly "elonaplus1.63 - 1.67 Beautify V1.00" which was posted in some thread on the wiki. Ill try to find the link in a minute but you'll have to modify it to fit elo+ 1.75.

>>14353453

I've just been told that it isn't actually beutify mainly… just partially.

>>14353360

Thanks, that worked out well. Now my next challenge is to get her to use her special ability on spellcasters exclusively somehow.

>>14353272

I played this game for 2 years off and on only getting to level 3 or 4 before giving up. I made about 10 guys doing this. About 3 threads ago, (and 2 years later) I just decided that I was going to force myself to get to level 10 just once. About the time I hit level 8 though I was fully in love with Elona and haven't played anything else in 50 hours of game time. Just hit level 30, and it's literally the best game ever as you can focus on whatever you want, the most sand-box sand-box ever.

You just need to get to that point where you're making more than you are losing by dying like a bitch in puppy cave, which means grinding and getting slapped about until you can at least farm that 1 dungeon and start to do more stuff

>>14353638

>me.jpg

So you've shown your true colors I see, anon.

>>14353652

read the post m88

>>14353638

>>14353419

I know this goes against all reason but I think the added clothes looks pretty good.

>>14353656

I was just shitposting. I'm going to go play video games now

>>14353664

I just couldn't let it slide this one time, I mean jesus…

Sorry for offtopic, back to elona

>>14353671

Wait until september and add magic damage instead.

>>14353671

I wouldn't take any "add" skill as an option ever because eventually you will have all skills. (that you want)

>>14353671

Probably invokes breath attack. Personally, looking at the wiki, it seems that invokes never scale inchance but only in power so I wouldn't bother with them. If it's something else though, like enhances breath attack, it might be worth looking into. the strength buff might be nice but the added enchant levels would be better for damage. Eye of Mind caps in usefulness at 900. So I would advise sound damage or enchant bonus (only if it is already at +15 and is acid/fire proof, and ignore this if there are other sources to damage weapon enchant).

>>14353305

Speaking of feats, what are some of the other good ones? The ones I pick don't seem to affect the game much.

We talked about this in the last thread nobody seemed to really know. About the value of hardening or enchant.

Armor +1 means +1pv and dv

Weapon +1 means +1 dam (no hit?)

Bless seems to add +2 value.

>>14353712

God of Luck, Expert Quartermaster, Exorcist (mandatory), Gentle Face (also mandatory), and anything else that give you more special actions, like Knowledge of Magical Plants.

>>14353712

picking up unique skills is a good idea, knockout is basically required to work with gene engineer later.

hypnotism is a sleep attack that is nearly unresistable.

>>14353712

Pick all the ones giving you special skills, then the ones giving speed, DV and PV and lastly the ones giving attributes (except the on protecting you from cursing words, never pick it as there are pieces of equipment with those attributes and it's beneficial to curse stuff sometimes). Getting all feats takes level 490 and like a million dead fairies (50 secret experiences).

>>14353741

It's actually higher than that for armor, each value adds +2 +2. Not sure about Weapons.

>>14353745

:^)

Just checked weapons get (+1, +1) and armors get [+2, +2]. At least the hit raised by +1%, I assume that hit bonus is added directly and not halved or something but the others should be accurate.

>>14353745

>>14353748

>>14353763

So starting off with a warrior class, would the best be Gentle Face, Knockout and Quartermaster?

>>14353800

Gentle face no, one rank in quartermaster is fine but two is a waste. Take strings assasin.

>>14353800

Knockout is useful for gaining pets that arn't bells.

>>14353813

Gentle Face is helpful for boss monsters that like to fucking run away when their HP gets too low, since they're almost always faster than you.

>>14353800

Pick exorcist you double nignog so you avoid cursed items during sleep

>>14353846

It isn't hostile

>>14353825

Fear wears off and it's a waste of a starting feat though. Strings assasin and leveling stealth give you shadow step and dancing wire, which: teleport to and attack an enemy; and draw an enemy and bind them respectively.

>>14353846

if you don't know

interact (i) your loli ->

change appearance

look for custom sprite set to 1

adjust hair and shit as you see fit.

Shape change also works, uses custom static sprites on the sprite sheet (which you should replace using the user/graphics method instead).

>>14353865

I didn't realize that it was the big daddy message.

Hmm..

A few times I've been on a delivery quest (this time it was a book, might have been another time also).. get to the person who I'm supposed to deliver to.. item is gone.. haven't been to a vendor, haven't been reading..ffff

>>14353925

is your inventory full?

>>14353932

nope.

also– recently doing quests

in the port, supposed to drop off something in Vernis as I do an escort to Noyel.. for some reason bombs EVERYWHERE so I can't go into the town. (Only hits the escorted)

In 135 hours of playtime I havn't had a single wish and I'm 48 cards short for an Astral Light Pen. Wat do?

>>14353942

You sure it's not the kind of quest that requires you get the person an item rather than deliver it? Also what did you mean by bombs everywhere.

>>14353963

yeah it was a delivery in another town

the escort quest "bombs" only seem to be going off in Vernis, if I stop there when I'm supposed to bring someone to another city there are invisible mines that only go off when the npc stands on them, they don't go off when I stand in the same spot first. it's pretty gay.

>>14353983

Are you floating? Did a mine dog mine the areaa or something, they might be possible to get as random enemies from wells.

>>14354040

well, hmm I am floating, but my escort is not. the thing is the mines are random (after reload because wtf) and they are all over the town, everywhere.

I'll try to get a screenshot

>>14354178

This sounds more like an enemie keeps agroing vanity, is an ether wind starting every time too?

>>14354196

Does sound like mines, no idea why they would be there though. If you search the area do any mines show up?

>>14354196

Did you have any minedogs, terrorism squirrels, or any other monsters spawn in the town? If so, those deploy mines.

>>14354272

a terrorism squirrel was (i think- summoned by an npc hero with attract monster gear) 2 game years previously..jfc..

>>14354287

Equips? Isn't negotiation useless after 100 for the PC (apart from charm exp)?

You're way ahead of me, I just reached level 40 and have slightly over half your playtime.

>>14354417

Is it even safe from enemies eating out of your backpack (like super hungry seal, I've noticed that unlike the normal seal the palmia pride dosn't protect against it)?

>>14354417

use a scroll of inferior material or change material on it to something not raw.

>>14354496

It's a precious item

>>14354581

Nevermind, shes terrible and there were alot more of these than I thought there were.

>>14345918

>Is Shena's ass really the best?

Of course, everybody loves Shena's ass.

>>14354796

>>14354887

did you guys put all the gathering skills on your pets? If you get them all, you'll get enough materials for at least one or two potions of potential each dungeon run, and they'll passively get the materials murdering other things.

Which God is worth worshiping?

>>14355184

All of them for different reasons. Personally, I just worshipped all of them to get all their special items and am either going to stick with luluwy or yacatect.

>>14355184

That only depends on what exactly you need.

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Gods

You will worship them all, for their gifts/god pets anyway.

>>14355184

I havn't tried most of them for very long but here is my gut feeling for them:

All of them are worth worshipping but I suggest going with Opatos for the Golden Knight and Jure for the Defender pets first. Jure gives you a nice healing special action which can bee really useful early on. If you are in need of usable weapons go and have the items/faith skill to do it Kumiromi and Ehekatle have good weapons as their third reward. Lulwy and Kumiromi have more usefull passive benefits with large speed increase (Lulwy) and Sp recovery (Kumiromi). Kumiromi is also really easy to gain favor for. The Black Angel from lulwy is also a pretty good archer. Itzpalt gives a sorta OK magic based god pet which can use three dart spells in one turn. Yacatect should theoretically be good early game but even then I imagine the platinum gain isn't really worth it, but later is probably good for making a lot of money (especially with her statue, but thats way later). Her coin is good to give to a shopkeeper.

>>14355227

I forgot Mani but there isn't really much to say about him. The android can be female and the shotgun is pretty alwright. The gemstone looks fun though.

>>14355184

all first for the rewards

end with kumiromi for stamina regeneration imo

lulwy also a decent choice but the speed falls off ultra late game from my experience

>>14355235

Mani's Android is very good since it has the armour flag which gives it 75% damage reduction. Probably the best reason to pick him. His special gift isn't bad either since it penalises marksman and tactics and many characters will want one of those.

>>14355310

Just looked at the mechanical binder, would be really nice to have but I'd need 11 blessed flying scrolls to equip it. Tempest collar seems good to but the others are all kinda meh.

>drink the soup of Wonderland

>become a kid

Is this Corruptions of Champions now? I don't like transformative items that don't tell you they're transformative.

Is there any way to reverse this?

Just now I'm trying to invest in shops a bit want to do +50, try 2 shops both with 30ish level, one shop wants 70k and the magic shop won't give me the option to invest +50 even with 150k bank. so was I short cash or something else?

>>14355339

eat high quality food and drink blessed milk

>>14355339

tbh, "soup of wonderland" implies some fucked up shit.

You're going to be stuck with cuckants long as you respect and allow dickhoard faggots. Just take it over there to /vg/ and never return.

The only thing worse than you halfniggers is the Wurm general. You don't fit this shoe. Head back to /vg/. Countable cancerous faggots showing up here. Have a big heart bleeding all over you all, for extent matters.

>>14355367

>>14355359

so different shops need different amounts of cash I guess even at the same shop level.

>>14355359

>ex-convict gay dwarf who had a revelation and became a priest

A+ back story.

>>14355481

I spend most of my time trying to preach the good word of Kumiromi to parties with my fairy (♂) while they throw rocks at me.

I've been constantly teleporting everywhere and have no idea why

>>14355549

Something you're wearing is enchanted with teleportation and is probably fucking cursed. You haven't been equipping random shit you find on the ground with getting it examined first, have you?

>>14355549

>>14355562

I once got a pet with such an item equiped (by default) at level 1 was funny for awhile because I had no idea wtf was going on.

>>14355562

>>14355568

Ah you were right, rather than that one of the items I bought from a merchant had it on and I didn't notice. I equipped a ring of silence for now.

>>14355549

You wear some cursed equipment.

Go to wizard in Vernis to identify it and then to healer to uncurse it and after that take it off and sell that garbage if teleportation wasn't removed.

>>14355539

Only <unique characters> or gods would stone you for that.

>>14355573

I wonder (((who))) could be behind this.

I just traded a npc hero 4 gold bars for his living machine gun.

Got a wish from a fountain, what should I wish for?

>>14355681

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Seven_league_boots

>>14355710

http://elona.wikia.com/wiki/Wishing

>>14355681

Ragnarok

I just made an interesting discovery. I have 2 living weapons ready to be leveled up. They have completely different options. So… it's not just a certain month.. maybe it just re-rolls each month.

How much of a benefit is there to investing beyond shop rank 150? I have 1.7 million gold and no idea what to do with it.

>>14355787

>How much of a benefit is there to investing beyond shop rank 150?

Nothing much. It stops matter at rank 100 or so.

With exception for black market shops, but at that point they are probably kind of useless to you.

>>14355681

The best thing to wish for are gods that you are worshiping, instead of having to wait for November to summon them.

Seven League Boots can be eventually found if you invest quite a bit in blackmarket/blacksmith shops enough, which you will, so it's a waste of a wish.

>>14356232

Especially if you're trying to get all the goodies the gods give.

>>14356280

I think that the only way to change materials of precious items is trought a material kit

>>14356295

I was wondering because I knew they worked on everything up to at least non-unique godly items, I didn't know if precious items could even have their material changed. Do precious items still receive material-dependent benefits?

>>14356280

>Goddamn nigger you level up fast. Weren't you only like level 60 or some shit a few threads ago?

That's because I've been killing monsters that were higher than my level with blood stream. I probably would've been 100 by now if I didn't waste my time wearing that stupid god thorn.

>>14356309

I've mainly been using blood stream to deal with caster enemies I don't wanna deal with, I'll have to see if I can get through some higher-level dungeons using it. The bleeding seems easy to deal with since I have a good amount of health and I can easily make cure wound potions to stop the bleeding. Have you tried using <Harakiri> to induce hemorrhage and deal a shitload of damage? How has that worked out?

>>14356308

Thats what I don't remember right now, I think precious items do get the benefits from different materials

>>14356338

The harakiri is an excellent way to train healing as well as power up blood stream and activate Brave, but if you don't have Barrier, it's an easy death sentence for you.

I don't really use it too much, because I still do a shit ton of damage regardless, only for like bosses that have a ridiculous amount of HP that not even a regular blood stream can chip at.

>>14348339

Does anybody have any other up-to-date sprite sheets? All I could find is either hidden behind 7 layers of Japanese or outdated

Does anyone know what "hurts technique" means, and why is it a positive attribute on equipment?

>>14356399

That's a bug, if it's green it improves that skill/stat.

Also having high learning helps speed up exp growth.

>>14356420

Would try to get a material kit for it

>>14356448

So always read shit, and never stop. And read with your pets too.

>>14356472

Also practice ALL your spells too, it trains your attributes and gives a shit ton of character exp.

>>14356472

Read, take magic classes with the trainer so it levels up your spells and those yield truckloads of exp, cook everything you can find, pick all resource spots, etc, etc.

>>14356907

>take magic classes

Waste of PP, just learn all your shit and cast it yourself. The best guild is the mage's guild, even if you don't use magic.

>>14356912

Even if you fail the spells, it still counts towards leveling it and casting.

>>14356912

>caring about pp when you can do a few missions where you can find even more books to read

Come on now

>>14356927

But you ain't training casting, meditation, control magic, and magic capacity (and healing) that way, which are way more important.

If you want to do some hard spell grinding, you gotta cast shit yourself.

>>14357075

How the fuck did you get that?

>>14357094

Try doing this >>14346571

>>14357075

I think your PC is an ayy lmao.

>>14357075

Did a wizard appear to you in a dream and teach you how to impregnate little girls?

>>14357101

>>14357107

>>14357122

Found it. If you're pregnant you can now poz others.

>>14357107

I did that before starting, still got that result

>>14357153

Oh god.

I thought that Violent Garden was stupidly broken.

>>14357139

This game has truly everything.

Minus forge and blacksmith skill.

I wonder when they will finally finish Act III and if they will add final part of Elona's world.

>>14357178

Good luck. Don't worry about dying too much early game to lvl 10. or skill builds for now.

>>14357260

Are you abusing mana-shield in the place of taking health damage?

>>14357348

For that boss, I had to pull back and recover once because he had so much health.

>>14357437

Of course thanks to silence, I died shortly after.

>>14357655

How early?

For the shop, is it fine if I drop all the items in one place or do I have to arrange them?

>>14357655

Increase your attributes by eating and make any kind of quests that doesn't involve killing shit.

In your case short escort missions and item delivery quests will be simple enough.

Also get some equipment for all your slots.

Just identify it at wizard before wearing it.

>>14357669

Just got into Vernis, I'm level 5 - did take a quest to nig someones pickaxe but I'm having a hard time finding them

>>14357777 (checked)

When you're on a quest like that and need to find someone, guards can generally point you in their direction.

>>14357806

Chill, half the game is experimenting and learning how shit works, if you need help you can go to puppy cave and grab all scrolls, books, potions and magic staff, go back to Vernis, identify them and sell it to the shops in the town, the cave auto-generates itself every time you go in and every floor works the same, it has 3 floors iirc, so it's a good place for early game if you're having it rough

>>14358131

I wonder if that has to do with truncation. That might mean that's the highest level able to be spawned in by an algorithm.

>>14358400

>kill a level 420

>1687 fame

What a garbage amount for the general amount of work put in.

Damn I need to get my luck up, can't I ranch rabbits or something?

>>14358805

It dosn't really work. I think the drop rates for ranched monsters are reduced to the point that it makes it useless to breed them just for that. Same with things like the hermit crab.

>>14358817

What did the hermit cribs do?

Of course, somehow I fucked myself and lost the pot of fusion. And of course the game is super fucking stingy with that item.

>>14358835

chance to drop the unknown shell (good early game necklace)

Late game stardust farm

>>14358805

best way to increase luck is the stray cat return quest in act 2

Is there any information anywhere that says how heavy a corpse of a creature is?

>>14359275

What did you eat to give you the buffs, was it equipment or something easily obtainable?

>>14355580

But that means every single rock was thrown by Gwen.

>>14357712

You can drop them wherever.

>>14359314

Blessed cure body and spirit raise up your stats a bit for like 12 months or until you die.

>>14359180

In the inventory it will say the weight like any other item.

>>14359364

And yes, I'm wearing the mechanical binder, though I dunno if this effects the power of blood stream, since I've been doing a shit ton of damage even with it on.

>>14359364

I don't know why, but I find it amusing that my current body piece barely beats out the PV value on the binder.

>>14359349

I meant the buffs that increase the exp gain for attribute.

>>14359362

I was more thinking like on the wiki, I'm trying to find the best creature to breed for favor and slave master, the mega mole and talpidae both only just max the sell value and are of the rat race but I need to know how heavy the corpses are.

>>14359471

Either eating special meals at inns, or eating equipment that has "maintains attibute" on it.

>>14359501

Just looked it up, holy shit that seems op (although, how much does it actually increase it by?).

does anyone know what "a stone material" is useful for? it looks like a stone block, also got a NUCLEAR DEAD LION on the same run that I have no idea about

>>14359526

Dead dead lion is lol so randumb and just functions as a nuke, the sotne material is used in a pot for fusion for stonecraft which makes stone furniture of varying quality (can also make a stone golem which can be sold to the slave master for quite a bit).

Just got the flash crossbow from a challenge quest… is that supposed to happen?

Blade Strings is OP at the start of the game

>>14359800

The thing is fucking massive, its special actions seem pretty neat too (no idea waht silent ocean does though).

>>14359833

It creates a shit ton of water tiles under it.

>>14360021

That seems useful if you have lightning and really pointless otherwise, does it do anything else? Seems to be named strangly for something just making water.

>>14360135

It also silences everything in the area, caster included

>>14360198

That's what your worried about? In this game? That it's a robot he's fucking?

>>14360206

I don't care if he's fucking a robot, I'd fuck a robot, what I'm confused about is that I've only ever seen humans spawn on the escort missions.

>>14360214

I'm curious, where did you read that? It might just be that they're cyborgs or something or everything that is humanoid counts as human for the purpose of the quest.

>>14360214

I think this quest basically spawns anything you can buy as a slave.

so, when you read a spell book of magic arrow it gives you magic dart, and when you read uncurse it gives you? remove hex? it's not a big deal but this kinda shit should be fixed in a game this old.

>>14359316

>But that means every single rock was thrown by Gwen.

I should mention that majority of unique characters have high level compared to rest NPCs in town.

If their level is higher than your performer/faith skills you get stoned.

>>14360198

>But aren't they robots or have I been mistaken this entire time?

No, these aren't.

>>14360791

Gwen is level 1, unless he was talking about gwen the pitiless in which case it's quite likely that she threw a rock, especially if he killed her at some point.

So I just read a blessed scroll of gain attribute, turns out if you have a skill boosted that you don't have it counts as one you have so it dosn't give it to you. Even worse, it's memorization from a mutation so I can't just remove it.

WILL MY PET STOP GETTING ITSELF KILLED FOR ONE GODDAMN SECOND I KEEP HAVING TO SAVESCUM LIKE A BITCH 'JESUS FUCK

>>14360960

equip it.

engineer it.

dump gold on it.

feed it.

cuddle it.

marry it.

and rez it.

>>14360960

What pet do you have?

>>14360995

my favorite daft punk song

>>14361012

it's obviously not the little girl, she's swole

So it takes 4~5 tokens of friendship to raise status from fellow to soulmate, going to assume they add 20.

>>14361181

>>14361227

never seen a token of friendship or a love potion

My estate rank stopped going up at around 30. Neither picking up any item or dropping any item single stacked anywhere will show a raise or lowering of rank. I've dropped about 20 or more items since that happened preparing to move to my next upgrade, but I'm wondering if anyone can tell me what's going on. (Max rank should be 10 it definitely never reached that high)

>>14361258

You can make tokens of frienship adn you can buy love potions at ~150 shop level.

>>14361227

i didn't want to throw love potions at Gwen, it's a fake form of "friendship".

Still no wish and therefore still no Astral light pen though, so all in all still bottlenecked. Started drinking from every well too…

>>14361336

>find a godly shield

>"It decreases shield"

Whats the fucking point

>>14361336

If you had a weapon's shop it'd be worth a bit.

>>14361380

No, it's literally worth 12gp to sell, that puts its base price at around 240gp.

>>14361378

Ok, at least the bolt isn't worse than useless.

Interestingly enough, the negotiation maximum sell price seems to effect npcs aswell, the souvenir vendor in larna sells all of potions of potential; masterwork so so gift and expensive gift for 1117318gp. Even stranger there seems to be an exception for the scrolls of growth souvenir vendors sell which always, even regardless of blessed or cursed status, sell for 3.5M.

>>14361427

Thats kinda the point of negotiation, to lower prices for which you buy and sell stuff, it also helps if you have a good relation with the shopper, at some point pets were able to add up their own investing skills, dunno of it still happens

>>14361336

>godly

>worth 12gp

Fucking hell

>>14361435

The point was that the fact that you can never sell anything for higher than (250 * negotiation) + 5000 also applies to the shopkeepers. Unfortunatly I don't know of any way to reduce an npcs skill levels as opposed to their attributes, which would be possible with cursed descent potions. Lowering a souvenir vendors negotiation to 0 to make everything cost around 5000 would be an interesting, if expensive, investment.

>>14361378

Even worthless godly items are valuable as artifact fusion fodder. You have to perform 10 fusions to increase the limit on godly items from 2500 power to 3000 power.

>>14361447

Well I brought it back, I guess I'll end up using it for that.

>>14361445

That has to be the least valuable godly I've ever seen.

When shopkeepers die do they respawn with their shop rank intact?

>>14361487

Yeah.

Any idea on how I can make an npc equip the aurite constrictor?

Is there any way to make non pet npcs eat raw equipment? Because then you could throw cursed alcohol at them and then feed them equipment to abuse negotiation.

>>14361505

If you're talking about a pet, you just put it in their inventory. If you're talking about regular NPCs, it's impossible since it's a precious item.

Pointless anyway, it seems I was wrong and it caps the price of goods for a different reason. Just looked at shoopkeeper and they don't spawn with negotiation trained. Which means that if it is capped based on some stat it's probably charisma, level or shop rank, the first two of which would be really convenient.

So neither throwing cursed descent potions nor investing thousands of levels into the shoopkeep changed the price cap, no idea what causes it. Best guess at the moment is that it has some shop specific cap to stop prices going too over the top and the random seeming number is the result of negotiation being applied to it. This would still make the number something stupid like 2,234,636.