d41f4c No.14300165
Turns out NISA is having a stream tonight at 6:45 PST on this stream.
https://www.twitch.tv/nisamerica?utm_source=NISA+Online+Store+Customers&utm_campaign=1093cffb5b-EMAIL_CAMPAIGN_2018_02_07&utm_medium=email&utm_term=0_3e308e5c3f-1093cffb5b-152294609
What do you think they'll ruin next? Do you think they'll have another chance with Falcom after the Ys 8 fiasco? Hopefully it will just be PC ports and they won't touch anything else.
e78661 No.14300178
Hopefully something big so idiots learn to stop relying on localizers.
0cea08 No.14300206
Every time. Every thread. Always and forever. Special fuck you as well to the Frogcucks who keep NISA alive.
d41f4c No.14300242
>>14300178
I like the Asia release way of doing things. Much faster release that's going to be on par with or better than most localization companies (unless it's something like one of the SRW games which was simply awful though SRW V's was passable) while having JP voices and no censorship for the most part. The only problem is if a game has a lot of paid DLC but I seriously hope no one here pays for DLC like that. I think the only DLC I've purchased in years was 2 characters in Dengeki Bunko Fighting Climax Ignition. I don't remember anything before or after that.
>>14300206
Thanks, I was looking for that.
>Frogcucks
French?
4a9bdf No.14300250
Why does it seem like NISA is ruining more and more games? Do they blow all their money on whores to get developers to send their games to be ruined?
b75f93 No.14300254
1cd059 No.14300256
Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max Please don't be Metal Max
1cd059 No.14300264
>>14300256
Actually, has NISA ever ruined a Kadokawa title? I'm pretty sure Kadokawa holds them strict just like Spike-Chunsoft
d41f4c No.14300297
>>14300250
NISA does a quick job and that's why devs keep going to them. Suits only care about first week sales and NISA is good at advertising so they get just that. NISA, however, is absolute garbage when it comes to QA, coding, and translating. As seen with Ys 8, they didn't even want to touch the code with making a PC port.
http://nichegamer.com/2018/01/19/ys-viii-lacrimosa-dana-pc-version-delayed-unannounced-date/
>>14300256
That was already announced for western release but it didn't specify with who. However, they said there was also going to be an asian release and NISA doesn't do those.
http://nichegamer.com/2018/01/29/metal-max-xeno-western-release-confirmed-new-character-misaki-flakpanzer-22-tank-detailed/
1cd059 No.14300304
>>14300297
Interesting. If we can find out who brought over Senko no Rondo 2 then we might know who'll bring us MMX
fe33b6 No.14300306
Fucking Christ Falcom. I'd better not have to write emails in moonrunes for this shit
>>14300297
>NISA does a quick job
No, they don't. They say they'll do a quick job and then utterly fail to deliver and take anywhere from 2-6x their original timespan to finish localizing, and do it poorly
They should have a more shit reputation now. XSEED has literally humiliated them by localizing 3-4 falcom games meaningfully, some very old in the same timespan it took for them to do 1, and do it poorly I might add (Oh, and the PC version STILL ISN'T OUT YET)
048f6b No.14300308
>>14300264
>Spike Chunsoft
>Being strict with NISA
That was just a meme being spread. NISA fucked with the Danganronpa games as well.
2fae47 No.14300331
>>14300206
>he doesn't buy 9 copies of every NISA game, one for himself and 8 for each of his sons
>while eating cheese'n'frog baguettes and drinking wine under a roof so God Almighty doesn't see
>when all expenses are paid by French taxpayers
You haven't even begun living, filthy casual. You might as well impale yourself on an old shoe of a whore, no one will notice a difference.
026723 No.14300339
>>14300331
>his sons
I am triggered.
6c1065 No.14300395
It's cold steel 3 and that AKIRA fighting game.
Falcom fans better hope the NIS International rumour is true.
fe33b6 No.14300404
>>14300395
Go fuck yourself, I won't believe it till I see it, and if I do see it I'm gonna contribute in the email bombardment
That NIS international shit was entirely bullshit too, as was the "purge" garbage which conveniently came after that false flag article
6c1065 No.14300415
>>14300404
Probably is, but who the hell knows at this point.
35b46a No.14300430
>>14300331
>each of his sons
>not wife sons
one job, anon.
>>14300404
ITS TIME TO LEARN MOONRUNES!
71822a No.14300436
615385 No.14300482
>>14300395
>FEXL being tainted by NISA
How dare you give me that image.
2fae47 No.14300483
>>14300395
It's probably just news about a Disgaea HD remaster, it was revealed weeks ago I think. Maybe some other NIS games, and definitely something they'll publish, which could be that. I do really want it to be Coldsteel 3 though, it'd be funny to see. I want to see the shitstorm, so they better have gotten it to entertain me.
>>14300430
>implying a 'quintessential' Frenchman wouldn't have a harsh sword with someone attempting adultery
>implying this wouldn't end with scimitar action that's not a flesh-flesh relationship, but metal-flesh ordeal
Mon dieu, go get more French lore. You get your Jacques Coustaeu all over my Gerard Depardieu.
048f6b No.14300518
>>14300483
Kill yourself, mutt.
e78661 No.14300521
>>14300264
>>14300256
Never even heard of this game. It looks pretty interesting.
7bc98b No.14300531
What happened with al those Touhou games NISA was handling? Besides fucking up Showmeyourmoves catchphrase I haven't heard anything else and looking through their website and Sony's there's already a bunch of touhou games that NISA has published.
2fae47 No.14300557
>>14300518
Go remove your own innards with a steelpipe, faggot.
>>14300531
You can buy touhou games? I thought they're just games you download from the internet for free absolutely legally. There was even a shitty touhou fighting game I've downloaded 5-10 years ago (hard to tell), and it was freeware.
c002a8 No.14300571
>>14300531
>al those Touhou games NISA was handling?
You mean the fangames that got ported to console for whatever fucking reason? Yeah, apparently NISA got their grubby hands on them, and if ZUN is smart he'll avoid them like the plague.
1a203c No.14300579
>>14300557
the actual zun made touhous and the fighting games made by tasogare frontier, those are always paid
7bc98b No.14300599
>>14300557
>>14300571
Sorry should have been more clear. Yes I meant the fan games ported to consoles. Has any news come out about the translation quality or other standard NISA game breaking bugs.
026723 No.14300605
Why the fuck hasn't someone firebombed the NISA offices already?
307e82 No.14300620
>>14300599
>>14300531
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>>14300605
Go to sleep, cianigger.
You are drunk and on wrong board.
2fae47 No.14300636
>>14300579
Ok then. The fighting game was absolutely shit so it might've been a fangame because I can't see anyone sane paying for something this bad. It did however have decent spritework so maybe it was either the real deal or real autism. The shmups likely were fangames.
e78661 No.14300782
>>14300599
>Has any news come out about the translation quality or other standard NISA game breaking bugs.
Who cares? You shouldn't be buying NISA games regardless.
0cea08 No.14300967
>>14300636
>The fighting game was absolutely shit
I swear to god you better not be talking shit about Soku nigger. I will beat you silly.
That game is godly. Deserves to be front and center at EVO tbh.
2fae47 No.14301054
>>14300967
Jewgled it and that's probably not it. One stage, which has tons of books laying around I clearly remember, but the game I've played I think had sprites with more realistic proportions. I am nearly certain half of the bars like the hexagons down in the menu weren't there, but the cards might've existed. Either my memory is wrong, or it's a fangame based on it, or I actually played a Mugen but misremember heavily. Still, I clearly remember the game download mentioning it was an alpha.
534812 No.14301219
>>14300782
Its helpful to spread their failures
90df76 No.14301427
so, what game is now shit?
a3b82f No.14301512
>>14300521
Older series dating back to the Famicom. Despite having four main games, spin offs, and a number of ports/remakes, the only one that official came west was Metal Saga (which had pretty middling western reviews and likely kept Atlus, and other publishers, from having interest in subsequent games). MMR for the SFC also does have a fan-translation patch though.
4a9bdf No.14301515
>>14301427
Got to wait 20 or so minutes more
e78661 No.14301560
>>14301427
Your favorite game.
c27f5e No.14301590
>>14300605
why hasn't anyone firebombed Nintendo yet their headquarters is filled with cardboard labos ready to light up
6007c9 No.14301594
The only way people are going to be beat NISA is if people go over their heads and straight to the japanese companies. NISA is completely dependent on japanese companies giving them games to (((localize))). People need to send japanese developers and publishers emails written in japanese warning them of the quality of product and the dissatisfaction with it when it's released in the west. People in japanese translation threads should help other anons and even normalfags that are unrelated to imageboards send their emails.
Related to this. Spread infographics informing people how to buy the imported games by promoting import websites. Anti-promote NISA by promoting import websites and services. Show the developers and publishers that you still want their games but not in the way it's released by NISA. Encourage developers and publishers in your emails for them to have in-house translation and to not hire anyone related to NISA because they are going to intentionally warp the games' context. Bonus points for encouraging normalfags to do the same. Expect damage control shills and cucks bitching at you for helping the customer realize he has rights.
The next and final way to beat NISA is to go into business for yourself and outdo them. They have virtually no competition. By default they're getting business because japanese developers and publishers have no other options. If someone like a group of anons stepped up and went into real business, they could deliver a western release that NISA could never do themselves. This is ironically the easiest and most decisive way to beat them.
e78661 No.14301604
>>14301594
Just learn Japanese and cut out the localizer middle-men.
3e171b No.14301616
>>14301604
I thought the same thing for years. Then, I saw companies like Square Enix and Capcom start censoring even the Japanese version of their games to be in line with the international releases. This practice is already bleeding into more niche titles. Olympic censorship fever might push even smaller publishers and devs to censor themselves.
4ad17d No.14301623
>>14301604
>implying localizers won't try to gain power and influence in nippon
Are you forgetting what Treehouse wanted to do (and failed this time but we won't know if they do next time) where they go to japan themselves and help ruin the games straight at the source?
We need to fight this shit
4ad17d No.14301632
>>14301594
Can you list off any credible import companies?
e78661 No.14301640
>>14301623
>We need to fight this shit
Fight it by bleeding them dry. There are no good localizers.
4a9bdf No.14301641
4ad17d No.14301660
>>14301640
faggot did you not read what he wrote in that post?
>The next and final way to beat NISA is to go into business for yourself and outdo them. They have virtually no competition. By default they're getting business because japanese developers and publishers have no other options. If someone like a group of anons stepped up and went into real business, they could deliver a western release that NISA could never do themselves. This is ironically the easiest and most decisive way to beat them.
That would entail people learning japanese, and more importantly we'd have a force that could fight cancerous localizations and provide some good of their own
e78661 No.14301667
>>14301660
>exposing Japanese games to the cancer of the west
>provide some good
They are better off quarantined.
a3b82f No.14301699
>>14301594
I'd say part of the issue also lies in who handles what response from fans. IE: Even if you were to write a letter, or an email, in proper moon to a Japanese company or branch, would it actually reach the people you're aiming it at? Or would it just get rerouted to a NA and/or PAL branch because it came from a western location/email address, with said branch either not knowing how to read the feedback since it's written in Japanese for a Japanese reader, or seeing the complaint but ignoring it and continuing to tell the developer of JP publisher how they want them to think things are going? Just strikes me that not only is there a language barrier to get past, but also perhaps an organization one as to who actually handles what ("west handles western feedback, east handles eastern").
831581 No.14301809
f830b2 No.14301991
I aint givin em views, whatd they ruin so far?
1872e9 No.14301995
look at all the games that will be covered in shit.
>hundread knights 2
>touhou game
> thelostchild game where they show off art assets with no actual gameplay displayed
sounds like it is some sort of pokemon like game crossed with Shin Megami Tensei?
all these fucking trailers go on for way too long and tell absolutely nothing about the game
>Ys VIII coming to switch
>snk heroines
>labyrinth of refrain
some other stuff I didn't even pay attention to
d3a17d No.14302009
https://twitter.com/NISAmerica/status/962168548167569410
>Vita exclusive game.
>They're porting it to every console except Vita.
At least it's something already in NIS's hands, otherwise I'd have been upset that they got their hands on something else that they can turn into trash.
e78661 No.14302020
>>14302009
>vita exclusive
nani?
c3f394 No.14302045
>>14302020
To be fair, it was a Vita exclusive for well over a year and only recently was ported to the PS4.
f6b07e No.14302560
>>14302009
>Entire twitter thread is filled with "VITA WHERE?"
Even Nisa fags are pissed.
0fd47a No.14307861
>>14301594
>The next and final way to beat NISA is to go into business for yourself and outdo them. They have virtually no competition. By default they're getting business because japanese developers and publishers have no other options.
You have no real idea how the industry works whatsoever, and you should stop mining these threads and social forums for opinions disguised as facts.
0fd47a No.14307895
>>14301660
Are you seriously retarded enough to believe you and a handful of anons can power your way into NISA's current standing? What that anon said was dumb. You agreeing is absolutely insane.
1e5745 No.14308091
>>14301995
that the only shit they got their jewish hands on?
d41f4c No.14311907
>>14302020
>>14302560
It's the dungeon crawler device and the people who wanted it were Vita owners. It's such a bizarre decision but I know why they did it. Because everyone has a PS4 and the Switch is hot while the Vita isn't. But it was obviously a dumb move with some observation.
e78661 No.14311941
>>14311907
I doubt it would take much work to just add the (((localization))) to the existing Vita version anyway. On the bright side, at least NISA is getting shit on for something else.
9c730c No.14312295
learn japanese if you care so much. they aren't affecting the original games in any capacity.
1cbcb7 No.14312447
>>14312295
You realize that this is why there is constantly a thread up to help people learn Japanese, right?
Step 1 is bitching about NISA.
Step 2 is learning Japanese to actually play these games.
e78661 No.14312462
>>14312447
It's still fun to bitch about NISA even after you learn Japanese though.
c32b46 No.14312501
>>14307861
>You have no real idea how the industry works whatsoever,
Care to explain how he's wrong, or would you rather continue shaking with fear?
>and you should stop mining these threads and social forums for opinions disguised as facts.
Where in his post was that evident? His post wasn't in the least bit asking for opinions. Way to give away that you're using a script when your reply is nonsensical.
Someone archive this thread. It's been graced by a damage control bot or script-poster. We're on the right track if they're already throwing damage control at this thread.
671705 No.14312548
>>14300256
The characters look hot. Where do I start with this series?
d8e5fe No.14312549
>>14307895
>anon makes his own, better localization company
>out competes NISA by paying for better qualified translators
>vidya is saved
d41f4c No.14312623
>>14312549
>>14312501
The thing is NISA has much better networking than a starting company. It would take them a long time to get up to speed and getting bigger devs to trust them. Despite NISA being shit, their games still sell. It would just take a while for them to pick up steam and beat their competition. One thing they can't do is get NIS games though unless NIS removes NISA for some reason.
>>14312548
I believe it got a fan translation on the SNES. They might discuss it in the Vita thread.
d2ce54 No.14313028
>>14312501
He is right and you're retarded not to realise it. You don't only need translators and paying them. You need a company to make game boxes, print game covers and maybe manuals as well as money for it all. Nobody works for free and materials aren't free. If you don't know Chinese and/or have friendly Chinks, costs go up. You have to get the shops to display your games. If you only go digital, you'll have problems competing and you can forget any company giving you any title they hope sells well, if you ever get anything. Only the most niche games it is for now, then. Fags need to know your game exists, just appearing on Steam with 8 other games is not enough. Social media accounts can suffice, but you need subscribers. Who cares you upload videos nobody watches and then nobody knows about the most niche, shitty games you can maybe get? To stay competitive, you might need to have someone port to other consoles/systems.
There's probably other expenses, like maybe an office. If it's all just random anons cooperating through the internet like implied, there's obvious dangers, ranging from one jewing others, simple distrust over money, one fucking up, one being retarded, selling away your work, etc. You need enough people so fags with inadequate skill or bad will are caught and the work has to be rechecked anyway. If more than one anon in the translator group is pozzed, you're absolutely fucked.
This is far from everything I could write just by using my fucking head which you clearly didn't. Basically, you need a big budget to really start it off and if you fuck up, the budget goes up in flames. Anons can at best make fantranslations and hope the team doesn't fall apart, unless there's legit millionaires here willing to very likely lose their shekels as more and more companies just open their own branches anyway.
887805 No.14313232
>>14313028
>If you only go digital, you'll have problems competing and you can forget any company giving you any title they hope sells well, if you ever get anything. Only the most niche games it is for now, then.
It's not impossible, after all, Gaijinworks is still around, and they have barely any connections to mooch off of since the CEO decided to sit on his ass for a decade.
c32b46 No.14313433
>>14312623
>The thing is NISA has much better networking than a starting company. It would take them a long time to get up to speed and getting bigger devs to trust them. Despite NISA being shit, their games still sell. It would just take a while for them to pick up steam and beat their competition. One thing they can't do is get NIS games though unless NIS removes NISA for some reason.
That goes without saying. But NISA has almost the same reputation as EA these days without being EA and thus having IPs to leech off of.
>>14313028
Your using your head is a big waste because all you basically said was you need to replace NISA by having the same functions as a company. There's pointing out the obvious and then there's being so mundane you wasted your own time writing your post.
I have an honest question. What's it like being a faggot defeatist? I'm genuinely interested in your struggles.
d8e5fe No.14313800
>>14313028
>implying it's just random anons cooperating throughout the internet
No, it'd be one anon taking advice from random faggots on the internet and building his company from there.
6a4f6e No.14314067
As shit the translation is, I'm happy NISA didn't get their hands on this game.
974aae No.14314400
>>14301616
Not really in most cases.
>Witcher 3 has no blacks, and sex scenes were toned down due to ratings instead of SJW demands
>Nier:Automata's creator had asked for fan art of 2B's ass after shit hit the fan
>Senran Kagura's creator says that he's more than willing to continue churning out the fanservice
I don't know why people are already fearmongering about muh Olympics when what Capcom and SE did was roughly 2 years ago. It all depends on how Japan will continue to go about this. Sure, some changes will be made, but they know who their real audience is in the homeland, and it's proven by numbers there vs. numbers here (ditto with how SJWs don't even play the games).
7bec72 No.14316054
>>14314067
Is it any good?
026723 No.14316067
>>14314400
>It all depends on how Japan will continue to go about this.
They'll do what they did all the previous times, wait until the waitu piggu fuck off and then stop giving a fuck about 2D muh soggy knees and loli.
It isn't the first time Japan has been in the international limelight. What always happens is they crack down on lewds and start enforcing the censorship laws more strictly (so instead of a thin black bar on genitalia you get lightsaber penises instead) until every filthy gaijin has gone home and then leave the otakus to their perversity again.
c68d38 No.14316110
>>14312295
Nigger some of us have jobs. I'll just play shit from my backlog and not give these fags my money. I'm not learning another language for this shit, get over it.
c68d38 No.14316126
>>14314400
Japan will cut off foreigners from their games if people start giving them shit. Eroge publishers already did that years ago after the rapelay shit.
Lots of smaller shops in Akiba won't sell outside of Japan out of spite towards westerners, too.
They don't give a fuck.
fa2833 No.14316198
>>14300165
So, what was the stream about, afterall?
a90c03 No.14316419
Misery sure loves company in these threads.
3b302a No.14320811
Ask Falcom where's the PC version of Ys 8, just to pressure them to realise how bad NISA is.
twitter.com/nihonfalcom/status/963421834040365057
6a4f6e No.14327181
>>14316054
You'll be getting more game overs than you want because like rogue. The mechanics are interesting enough. Enemies drop fang which is used for passive ability and rechargeable power. You can offer fang which destroys it but you get things like +HP and stuff. There's also a brave system where if you have no "wall" tiles around you crits go up and you get BP every successful hit. Which 2BP+ gives you weapon effects and some fang passives.
And the monsters are cute. Like a cute.
baee6c No.14329226
>>14300306
>PC version STILL ISN'T OUT YET
At this point I half expect them to cite insurmountable technical issues and cancel its release. Probably not until summer-ish though, when Ys hype has died down and they have new fall releases to divert attention.
048f6b No.14330070
>>14329226
They announced that the PC version was handed to a different company because they just could not figure out how to port it. They also decided to not do any programming for it. So, yeah, they've become the most incompetent company to ever be running.
f8da66 No.14330084
>>14301995
>that will be covered in shit.
dont worry anon! non of them will be censored if the nips and gaijins get the same version that welcomes ALL gamers!