d55772 No.14292126
OFFICIAL /MHG/ SQUAD
EIGHTH FLEET
Eighth Fleet squad session ID: 7cYGT4TH4LzT
Joining the session does not change anything. It's like a LAN or lobby. You can still solo quests. This means you can join and continue on as normal while chatting.
When you post a quest, it will be visible to the rest of us and we can join before you depart or during the quest.
For those who still need an invite: just type in the ID in "join online session" | "search via ID"
Reminder that you don't need the ID if you're already in the squad, but if you can't seem to connect to the one that already exists (via squad session search), you might want to use the ID instead.
Unfortunately, the gathering hall hub is near-pointless since you can just post the quests from the village. That being said, we like to see that pretty face, so afk there and not the gay village unless you want to be a homo.
Will reply to this post when ID changes
d55772 No.14292147
Copypaste from previous thread, thank you for your hard work anon
Did some research on Tempered Monsters in MHW
And collected them in this post for easy digestion.
What is a tempered monster?
Tempered monsters are the endgame/postgame monsters in MHW.
They are just like the regular monsters, but have increased attack power (enough to one shot geared hunters with certain attacks.)
Tempered monsters also have a purple outline in their icon and leave blue tracks.
Investigations with tempered monsters also have purple reward boxes.
Categorically the tempered monsters fall into 3 groups:
>1st tier, HR 13+.
Pukei-Pukei
Barroth
Jyuratodus
Tobi-Kadachi
Radobaan
Paolumu
Rathian
Anjanath
>2nd tier, HR 30+
Rathalos (Might be tier 1, could not confirm)
A.Rathalos
P.Rathian
Diablos
B.Diablos
Odogaron
Legiana
Bazelgeuse
Lavasioth
Uragaan
>3rd tier, HR 50+
Nergigantte
Teostra
Kushala Daora
Vaal Hazak
Kirin
Higher the tier, the better the rewards.
Note: the highest rarity drops are exclusive to the 3rd tier.
Where to fight them?
Tempered monsters are primarily investigation only, there are also few quests that pit you against tempered monsters.
Tempered monster investigations are generally unlocked by gathering tempered tracks in expeditions. (These tracks seem to always spawn in the same spots)
You can also them the same way as normal investigations when hunting tempered monsters. (break parts, gather tracks) But the chance is very low.
They are also found under Investigations section when responding to S.O.S.
Why to fight them?
Tempered monsters drop streamstones in rewards and tempered monster investigations reward either streamstones or feystones.
Streamstones are used to augment Armor. They also come in different rarities.
Streamstones can also be used at the melding pot to create new random decorations out of the old ones.
You can also rarely get "warrior's streamstone" from 2nd tier upwards, they come in different types like Axe (Switch Axe & Charge Blade), Ranged (Bowgun's & Bow), etc, and can be used to augment the corresponding weapon types.
Warrior's streamstones also have a rare version called "hero's streamstone" needed for augmenting Tier 8 weapons.
Note: that lower rarity armor require lower rarity streamstones to augment and lower rarity weapons have more augment slots.
Feystones turn into decorations when identified, and come in several different rarities.
This is the only real way of getting rare decorations, and the fastest way of getting decorations in general.
There are decorations for at least some of the set bonuses present in the game. (Bonus charge level for bow, Extra damage on non elemental weapons, etc).
Augmenting quick and dirty
Weapons can be Augmented following ways:
Increased attack (+5 raw)
Increased affinity (+10%)
Bonus defense (+10)
Extra slots (potentially upgrade existing slot)
Heal on attack
Note: Numbers can potentially vary depending on weapon type.
Rarity 8 weapons have 1 augment slot, Rarity 7 has 2 and Rarity 6 has 3.
Each augment also requires different plates and gems for different monsters.
Note: A weapon must be at the end of it's upgrade path to be augmented.
1a2d9b No.14292154
What do you think a pink rathian smells like?
Asking for a friend.
d55772 No.14292162
>>14292154
>Asking for a friend.
Don't lie anon, we all anonymous poster here.
2f1394 No.14292167
I noticed the ability to sort armour by slots but there don't seem to be any slots to put accessories in to. Did I miss a tutorial somewhere or something? Does that stuff not unlock until post-game? What gives?
04ed01 No.14292287
Nice work bumping dying threads OP.
08a785 No.14292298
>>14292154
>make a game centered around the aggression and monster vs monster combat
<forget to include deviljho, the monster who made it popular and a gameplay aspect in the first place, and have to add him in a patch months down the line
<poogie had to be included in a day 1 patch
Jesus fuck
1a2d9b No.14292319
>>14292298
I really wouldn't say it's centered around it, but sure.
At least jho will be free, though?
d4defc No.14292366
>>14292126
new session ID?
14b99e No.14292468
>>14292319
ALL monster hunter DLC was free before worldscucks bought into the marketing. Literally the only fags I know who bought this shit have never played a monster hunter before, and would ask my opinion on it and then act like I kicked their dog when I told them why it was shit.
1a2d9b No.14292483
>>14292468
Could be worse is what I was getting at.
Why is world shit?
d55772 No.14292517
>>14292366
I'm not the squad leader
014f22 No.14292520
How do I fight Zorah Magdaros again without multiplayer?
Currently going through the game entirely solo. It's an awful fight but weapons/armor seem good.
c32a41 No.14292524
Wait, it's already released?
56a5e7 No.14292525
>>14292287
>Newfag
There is always a MH general here lurk some more.
5371d7 No.14292527
>>14292524
Not on PC, so its just in beta.
1a2d9b No.14292531
>>14292520
his mission spawns randomly, same deal with the final boss
014f22 No.14292533
>>14292531
Alright, so I just cycle shit until it shows. Thanks anon.
56a5e7 No.14292534
>>14292524
Biggest selling game this year so far. Its all over the internet. Game stores have big fucking cut outs and posters of Monster Hunter World. Every faggot and nigger on YouTube is now a MH "Vet" and "expert". And your trying to tell us you didn't notice Casual Hunter is out.
c32a41 No.14292543
>>14292527
>Not on PC
Oh so it's still in garbage phase
>>14292534
I don't use social media and don't follow any gaming pages. And I only use Youtube for satisfying my /k/ autism, so no vidya news there either. I'll just wait for the PC release now I guess.
56a5e7 No.14292552
>>14292543
But even big ass supermarkets are shilling Casual Hunter. Even IRL its hard to miss MHW. I envy you. You must live somewhere chill and remote.
8d045a No.14292574
>>14292534
I noticed this too, it's like all of a sudden everyone started playing the series since the original on the PS2. I didn't know Monster Hunter 1 was this popular, it reeks of either shilling and or appealing to experience, as if playing since the original means anything.
928ba8 No.14292582
>>14292319
>At least jho will be free, though?
Will it? What's to stop them from charging?
d55772 No.14292588
>>14292543
I guess you never posted in MH general before because that what everybody been talking about since it was announced
1a2d9b No.14292592
>>14292582
they already said it would be free dummy
219b59 No.14292594
>>14292534
I only notice new games through scene releases. I don't go to game stores or follow youtube.
928ba8 No.14292600
>>14292592
>corporations have never lied to me before they are my closest allies
1a2d9b No.14292602
>>14292600
it's possible they could make it pay2win, anon. Buy a kirin set for 15 dollars.
I'd steer clear.
d55772 No.14292625
>>14292600
>>14292582
You can gloat when they do, but as of now, there's no indication that they will.
8d045a No.14292662
This is all conjecture, but here's what I think's gonna happen with Monster Hunter thanks to jewish tricks.
World is extremely popular by appealing to casuals/normalfags plus a heavy push in marketing. This means that new players are going to start pouring in and overwhelming the old fans in sheer number and cash flow. At the same time as your highly hyped game trying to break into the wider audience is releasing, you start adding small shifts to your business practices, for the first time in the series there's paid DLC, cosmetic sure, but they're laying down the foundation. Remember, normalfags/casuals are already used to having their assholes penetrated with abundant amounts of DLC so they'll defend Capcom because it's just cosmetic and doesn't really affect anything, despite the fact that you're paying 60$ for the game already.
Now what happens when you have a newer audience used to getting buttfucked with DLC that overwhelms the older fanbase with sheer numbers? Capcom is now free to push more and more DLC because these retards will eat this shit up and ask for seconds. If you complain they'll call you entitled or an oldfag that's upset at Capcom despite having given you years of free content over the years so you should swallow the bitter DLC pill and open that wallet. Normalfags have a tendency to defend companies over their own self interests, just look at shit like reddit where they'll bend over to defend shitty companies.
My theory then is that Capcom is appealing to a wider audience, while setting up the framework for more and more intrusive or simply more DLC further down the line because by that point, the oldfags that enjoyed the series and are upset that they're jewing it up will be completly overwhelmed by newfags that are used to there being DLC and paying out the nose for DLC in other games. All Capcom has to do is the same ol' sob story that
>it costs too much to make games so we need DLC to make things profitable, ignore the fact that we're selling many times more copies than ever before and the DLC is free profit, please think of our starving company
and normalfags will eat this shit up and defend Capcom to the grave.
To summarize, attract newer audience that's used to DLC in other games and get them used to DLC with this one, newer audience replaces older audience that is upset about DLC existing at all and would boycott you the moment you started charging for gameplay affecting DLC through sheer numbers, newer audience is much more receptive to large amounts of DLC and will buy it up, increasing their profits with next to no negative feedback.
928ba8 No.14292671
>>14292662
Don't forget the perverse attempt at e-sportsifying the game with hunt achievements and "adopt a noob" programs.
5dec8c No.14292760
So… do get Shield Bones do I have to grind the Pink Rathian? There are at least 4 weapons I need to upgrade before I go to the last area for the first time.
5dec8c No.14292763
>>14292671
How the fuck are you going to e-sportify a game about endless grinding with no competition?
Also, how can you adopt noobs? I like the idea of being a gentle master.
987187 No.14292772
Monster Hunter World
>Despite the lack of a number, World was developed with the intent of being "Monster Hunter 5" and was built specifically to target foreign audiences who found the series too challenging.
>Like all first releases of a generation, World only goes up to High Rank. Capcom has not confirmed or denied whether G Rank content will be made, or how it will be released if it is.
>World has the first instances of paid DLC in the franchise. All paid DLC thus far has been cosmetic, and thus far all announced monster-related content is free.
>There is no longer a Village/Gathering Hall distinction. All quests can be done multiplayer. By the same token, players can no longer take on "multiplayer" quests solo, since when in single player the difficulty is set lower, and only switched to the higher difficulty if other players are present. Like in previous titles, it's a purely single/multi distinction, so difficulty is the same regardless of number of players
>Online servers are now region-free, so JP players can play with foreign players and vice versa. Filters can be set by language.
>World is rather story-intensive even compared to 4, with a large amount of cutscenes both between and during hunts. Cutscenes are unskippable. Voice acting in actual languages appears for the first time in the franchise, though traditional "Monster Hunter" language can also be enabled.
>HP damage numbers that indicate how much damage attacks do appear for the first time. They can be turned off.
>Glowing green bugs highlight interactable objects on the screen and guide the player to the monster. The ability to track monsters starts weaker and increases the more experience they gain until they at all times display a monster's position. They cannot be turned off.
>An in-game wiki-like feature has been included that gives rough estimations of weak points and drop rates.
>World launched with 30 large monsters. For comparison the most recent non-G Rank Monster Hunter titles, 4 and X/Generations, had 51 and 69 respectively. Patches will be released to up the monster count, with the first set for sometime in the spring to add Deviljho.
>Armor is no longer distinguished between Blademaster and Gunner. Regardless of weapon any armor can be equipped, with melee weapons giving a defensive boost and ranged weapons giving an elemental resistance boost.
>Armor Skills no longer require a base threshhold of points to activate, even a single point in a Skill is enough to activate it, with the effect increasing at higher levels. There are no Minus Skills. Further, some Armor sets have "set bonuses" that activate when wearing multiple pieces of the same set.
>New tools that can be used an infinite number of times with a cooldown between uses. Effects range from providing periodic healing to status resistance, even up to stealth effects and damage negation.
>Due to the removal of loading screens between zones, maps are about 2-2.5x the size of previous titles.
>Each map now has multiple base camps, which can be freely teleported to at any time when not in combat.
>Base camps allow the player to restock on all items freely throughout the hunt, as well as change out gear wholesale, including any items on cooldown. Players can eat multiple times per hunt at base camps as well.
>Bowguns can now be fired and items used "on the move." For instance, Potions no longer require the player to stand still, and with a slight loss of speed the players can even run while drinking. As a caveat, healing is no longer instant, and occurs throughout the duration of the drinking part of the animation.
>Whetstones, Bug Nets, and Pickaxes are no longer consumable items, instead simply being infinite use.
>Combinations can be "preprogrammed" to run automatically, allowing players to combine for more Potions or ammunition without needing to find a safe opening to open the menu.
>Areas now contain environmental traps that can restrain monsters or knock them into other areas. Some of these can affect the player as well.
>Regardless of other gear, all players now have a "Slinger" to fire off items that were previously thrown as projectiles, as well as to interact with the environment as a grappling hook for travel or to utilize environmental traps.
>Some monsters will ignore the players entirely until attacked, and monsters will at times ignore the players even mid-battle in favor of entering short interactive cutscenes where they battle other monsters, dealing large amounts of damage to them and possibly incapacitating them.
1a2d9b No.14292774
>>14292763
the adopt a noob program was something invented by the "community"
meaning reddit
5371d7 No.14292776
So how many of you guys use lock-on? Because I don't, I've gotten so used to moving the camera and it staying stationary that the lock on ruins the game for me and makes it feel off.
1a2d9b No.14292778
>>14292776
I use it when jumping off walls
5dec8c No.14292783
>>14292774
I wouldn't mind adopting any of you guys yet I'm just rank 12.
40cef8 No.14292796
>>14292776
You can turn off lockon so its not auto focusing so tapping L1 just pivots your camera. Like the 3DS games
I dont mind lockon its not really a crutch since I rarely use it and I went through so lock witch a claw that I feel I've earned the right for it
d55772 No.14292833
>>14292776
>So how many of you guys use lock-on?
I use it with HBG, very convenient
40cef8 No.14292839
Having massive zones add nothing to the game since ya just gonna fight in 3 of them
cutting each map in half could have added more actual zones instead of a desert you never go to or a forrest thats only for Rathian
The volcano and Crystal area really should be their own zones, make the volcano bigger and have the crystal area on its own
The limited amount of monsters is awful, adding more later is just game journalist bait. As it stands there is less than Tri. For a game that is supposed to be so big thats really not many actual monsters.
Slingshot and mantels are actually ok, they dont really change the game like styles.
Armor skills I'm still very negative on. Actual set bonuses is nice except they are just previous skills that have been turned into set only, like the Guard up? One that would let you block unblockable things
Talisman/gem switch is awful even in this skill system. Id rather autistically farm a volcano for 40 hours to get a charm with perfect stats than this gem shit
One thing that id like in the future is have the old talisman system but being able to upgrade them like the new system but that be just crazy
I like the Gunlance changes but always been ok with how it has changed each gen, Horn seriously needs an improvement though
Worlds while not as bad as I originally made it out to be, is just still a bad monster hunter game
its got no content with unnecessary changes for a western market that want shit games like destiny and that ubisoft game
987187 No.14292846
>>14292662
>Remember, normalfags/casuals are already used to having their assholes penetrated with abundant amounts of DLC so they'll defend Capcom because it's just cosmetic and doesn't really affect anything, despite the fact that you're paying 60$ for the game already.
>If you complain they'll call you entitled or an oldfag that's upset at Capcom despite having given you years of free content over the years so you should swallow the bitter DLC pill and open that wallet. Normalfags have a tendency to defend companies over their own self interests, just look at shit like reddit where they'll bend over to defend shitty companies.
Which is exactly what we've seen in these very threads.
>>14292774
Sounds like cancer.
>>14292839
>As it stands there is less than Tri.
Let's be fair, it does have more than Tri, just still less than most if not all other first releases.
40cef8 No.14292871
>>14292846
Ok ok I'm talking shit about Tri but it does only have 31 large and most are kinda shit jaggi barroth tier or Rathaloseses
31 is no way acceptable for a game this "size"
it seems more like a beta test to actually make a good game except we won't get a WORLD U we will most likely get a fucking full price g rank "expansion" that while adding more monsters and G rank it wont fix actual issues
Can you imagine how these armor skills would be at g Rank? Its already really easy to make autism sets even without gems
56a5e7 No.14292874
>>14292574
All these newfags claiming to be vets makes me laugh. Me I'm a total noob at MH started playing with 4. I don't understand why people lie about how long they have played a series.
Its like the weeby Final Fantasy fan that claims they started with VI when no cunt knew that series was a thing until VII.
Monster Hunter World is the Final Fantasy VII of MH games and that is not meant as a compliment.
95bab3 No.14292879
is the most effective way to win fights quickly in mhw still to pole vault onto their backs?
987187 No.14292881
>>14292871
Oh don't get me wrong, I hardly have a positive opinion on World after seeing the facts of it, just that it only invites shitposters when we don't keep to the facts, and the facts alone are condemning enough.
>>14292874
Pretty much, it's the Final Fantasy 7, the Persona 3, the Donte may Cry
40cef8 No.14292884
>>14292871
Whos the fucking genius who thought making a squishy Uragaan with bones stuck to it is good
Id love this monster if this game had more monsters, its a nice mid level fight and fun to blow up but its just a shit Uragaan that has nothing of value
40cef8 No.14292894
>>14292874
Ive been playing since freedom. I cannot prove this but I was in the last years of school and basically spent the entire years maths class playing it since my teacher broke both his arms early on and we had temp teachers every week who changed constantly so it was impossible for any learning so I just played my psp
I actually found my freedom unite the other day
I no longer have a psp though
40cef8 No.14292897
>>14292879
Mounting seems very toned down from 4U
Sure aint no Je suis monté every 5 seconds anymore
987187 No.14292901
>>14292894
I just dug up my PSP the other day after one of my students talked to me about trying out Portable 3rd but getting her ass kicked by the blue bear at the beginning. I ended up giving her a lot of pointers and she said she'd give it another go now, and it made me want to find mine and play it again as well. It's reassuring to realize that even after all this time the game is still challenging enough that it takes me just over 30 minutes to take out the Urgent to move up to HR 2
95bab3 No.14292909
>>14292897
toned down? i played the beta and i found the game boring because all i had to do was bring the insect glaive and pole vault onto the monsters back 3-4 times to win.
40cef8 No.14292918
>>14292909
Pardon
>>14292901
Man that makes wonder why they didn't include Arzuros in this. Its got the perfect zones for it.
I dont want this one monster every 3 months shit
5fd122 No.14293164
>>14292776
I'm trying to get used to lock on but i dont like it. Also since I'm trying to move the camera to look at monster at the same time as scrolling through items, then it open that fucking item wheel and i start sharpening my weapon when i ment to scroll to potions.
Tell me I'm retardrd, and there is a way to turn this shit off.
40cef8 No.14293181
>>14293164
You can take everything off the wheels just update your item loadout once you do
I dunno if you can do anything else but yea i had that problem till I removed everything
5fd122 No.14293201
>>14293181
I'll try that out when i get home. Thanks anon.
56a5e7 No.14293205
>>14292894
Its not people here. Most people here are informed and know about these games. It is the YouTubers and Reddits. Fuck I even came across a faggot at work that claimed he played Monster Hunter since the PS1 version.
>PS1.
>VERSION.
441426 No.14293209
>>14293205
dumbfuck probably played monster rancher for 20 minutes
0335d1 No.14293218
Post your best pics of the handler, the only tard guard that looks like she needs a tard guard of her own.
04ed01 No.14293231
>>14292525
No, I'm talking about how OP bumped a bunch of threads at the bottom of the board with short comments to make sure he started the new MHG thread.
987187 No.14293238
>>14293231
This has been the tactic the shills have been employing for a while now to guarantee they snatch the OP.
d55772 No.14293276
>>14293231
There nothing wrong with that, rules said for the thread to reach page 13, I just forced it to go down.
>>14293238
Hey Makoto, isn't it a little late to be browsing the internet
441426 No.14293288
>>14293276
>shill admits it
jesus christ the state of this board and the MH community
987187 No.14293297
>>14293276
>There nothing wrong with that, rules said for the thread to reach page 13, I just forced it to go down.
Typical (((industry))) logic.
>Hey Makoto, isn't it a little late to be browsing the internet
And typical (((industry))) retorts.
0335d1 No.14293300
>>14293276
>ACTUALLY ADMITTING TO SPAMMING THE BOARD TO SHILL FOR A GAME
d55772 No.14293302
>>14293288
>shill
god forbid peoples actually like the game and want to talk about it
9f6c6d No.14293307
>>14293218
why do you think she handles anyway? I assume she's the one who trains the monster flyer helpers. Maybe she needs that butterface to better interact with monsters in the first place?
deepest lore
d55772 No.14293310
>>14293297
>>14293300
So you want to make posting in a thread to be a bannable offence?
9f6c6d No.14293313
>>14293300
Monster Hunter's a series, so if you don't want to talk about World then talk about some other entry.
0335d1 No.14293315
>>14293302
You dumb nigger, they just admitted to spamming other threads to make sure the op for the next thread had a positive spin.
441426 No.14293318
>>14293302
So instead of just posting in the thread like a normal person you made it about being at the front of the board.
If you cared about discussion you'd just fucking discuss it. You care more about advertising the fact it exists.
>>14293310
It's the way you posted dumbfuck. Your feigning of ignorance won't work here. You knew exactly what you were doing.
0335d1 No.14293322
>>14293310
Spam is an existing ban offense, you extra chromosomed abbo
987187 No.14293329
>>14293302
That hardly explains why you feel the need to make so desperately sure that the OP shills World instead of just being a more general Monster Hunter thread like some kind of, I don't know, Monster Hunter General and specifically avoid posting the very neutral in tone list of changes World has made.
d55772 No.14293338
>>14293318
>>14293322
But It's not a random post, its short but its on topic
441426 No.14293340
>>14293338
But you specifically did it just to snipe the MH OP. And even fucking admitted to it. You're just digging your grave even deeper. Go back to cuckchan please.
d55772 No.14293361
>>14293329
>>14293329
>That hardly explains why you feel the need to make so desperately sure that the OP shills World
Did I make a post saying "hey go buy this game! its good!"?
Most of the info in the OP are things are related to MH in general, only 1 line related to World which the squad that wasn't even mine, the other posts are just useful info. Is World not permitted to be in the OP?
2ac425 No.14293376
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14292874
What really bothers me for no good reason at all is how the newfags cant even tell that rathian is a female. Whenever they refer to her as a HE just gets under my skin. Does the game ever refer to her as queen of the skies or mention that she is a female yet? Because if it does then its the newfags that are retarded for not noticing that.
26:20 in this video really pissed me off.
He wouldnt even stop
HE JUST KEPT ON GOING
By the way if MH4U was on ps4/xbone instead of the 3ds do you think it would be half as popular let alone nearly as popular as world?
0335d1 No.14293390
>>14293376
Personally, I would have bought a ps4 for mh4u if it were exclusive
987187 No.14293396
>>14293361
It's about how blatant you're making it that you're trying to push a positive spin on World, whether or not you outright say it. The fact that you consistently use World specific images in the OP, something none of the normal OPs ever do, as well as push the idea that there's a sizable portion of 8/v/ users who play the game by pushing the "Official /mhg/ squad" quite prominently over everything else, yet conspicuously avoid posting the rather detailed list of changes that should be the first thing you'd want included if you want to actually have a discussion about World says it all. On top of this, we've already established by your own admission that you went out of your way to slide the board to guarantee you'd get to be the OP. Why? What possible reason could you have to do that? Goodness knows there's no shortage of Anons who can do it.
>>14293376
>By the way if MH4U was on ps4/xbone instead of the 3ds do you think it would be half as popular let alone nearly as popular as world?
With the normalfags you mean? Probably not, even as easy as it was it'd still be "too hard" and "too Japanese."
addb51 No.14293407
>>14292897
>Sure aint no Je suis monté every 5 seconds anymore
I actually got matched with a Baguette yesterday. The new line is 'Je suis sur le monster!'
d55772 No.14293414
>>14293396
>It's about how blatant you're making it that you're trying to push a positive spin on World
What spin you faggot? its literally the /v/ squad and monster info. In which way did put a "spin" in the OP? My opinion are my own, the OP are general info, there's not even a hint of my opinion about World in it.
9f6c6d No.14293420
>>14293329
World didn't really change things around, but it did add stuff like more moves for the Long Sword, specifically a second special attack that has you jumping into a downward slice, which lowers your blade level. Additions like that, instead of treating the Long Sword specials like a stacked buff, you can now treat them as ammo to pull off certain attacks, but you can also play the same way you always did with the sword for no issue, you just have a new risky playstyle to master if you want.
Most of the weapons got that treatment and more options, and a few others like the Heavy Bowgun had their turret mode changed to, instead of just firing faster in a locked position aka Turret mode, got 2 special ammo types that refill over time, a heavy machinegun ammo that emulates gives you the fast fire of the turret mode (which you can customize by changing your weapon or customizing it) or the sniper piercing chain explosive that only has one shot but attaches loads of explosives depending on entry. And they added deployable mines to the Light Bowgun that explode on impact and stay there for a while, so you can set three next to your barrels to add on to your party's explosions, or just set them down next to a downed monster's face and melee him over and over with the butt of your gun, setting off the mines and doing a pretty solid amount of damage. Spread shot actually gets use with the Light Bowgun since they mesh very well with the mines and can be triple fired to set off the mines three times.
Frankly turret fire was underpowered and often not used, people just stuck to the unique bullets that the gun had, but now you have special ammo that takes time to load that does huge damage, in the lowest mobility weapon class.
A lot of the added features that were added for beginners, like the damage numbers so you could tell you walked in with the wrong gear or hit the wrong place, can be turned off. World's beginner friendly it looks like, but a beginner would get fucking wrecked by later monsters if they tried using all the new tools. A bunch of idiots use the super armor mantle tool to act like a regular tank class and get wrecked, while the real use for it is for you to slap it on to avoid the effects of roars so you can pile on damage when monsters retreat, it's more suited to a ranged class, and the one they should be using is the mantle that draws attention.
441426 No.14293436
>>14293420
>Frankly turret fire was underpowered and often not used
Wrong. It was used constantly in 4U and X/XX. Especially with piercing shots.
9f6c6d No.14293445
>>14293436
We can say shit without evidence all day, but a game's a game.
d998ce No.14293447
>>14293445
Why don't you post your evidence to prove your own claims while you are at it m8.
7432c4 No.14293566
>>14293376
>Does the game ever refer to her as queen of the skies or mention that she is a female yet?
Yes. Constantly, through NPC dialogue and field guide entries. Y'know, shit that newfags won't pay attention to.
08a785 No.14293610
>>14292483
>why is world shit
Here we go…
>game series is always about timing and dedication to your actions IE: healing requires X amount of time and you can't move, need to pick between healing or running your ass off
<World: "lol do both. the flex is harrrrrd and makes casuals feel bad they can't just hammer the healing button"
>Monsters are lord of their domain and you're the stupid shit going into their territory where they have the advantage
<world: "lol the monster fell into a hole. Lol, the monster got trapped in vines. Lol, the monster did a charge it does all the time and knocked it's self out"
>need to carefully construct armor+talasman+wrapon loadouts to ensure you add up the points needed to activate skills
<world: "lol you only need one point of any skill to make it work because casualretards who never read the rules on how armor works are too stupid to figure that out"
>building armor depends on if you focus on using a bowgun or a melee weapon, one giving more physical defenses while the other gives elemental defenses, leading you to possibly needing to build two different sets of armor from the same monster if you want certain skills, thus forcing you to focus generally in one or the other or attain maximum autism singularity
<world: "lol one armor set does everything because otherwise casuals don't get it"
>tracking the monster down and not losing it was done via finding it and hitting it with paintballs regularly until you got good enough at remembering where it would go that you could track it without said paintballs. Using herbivore monster reactions could also let you know if it was nearby
<world: "lol just have a giant obscuring green blob point you to it and have the monster stick on your map like a GPS because what is hunting?"
>you have a single camp with limited per-quest items in it. get knocked out and you have a walk-of-shame back to the battlefield to think about how you fucked up while hoping the paintball doesn't wear off
<world: "lol there are, like, 7-8 camps per map and you have full access to your item box in all of them and can completely restock your items and can change your weapons and armor and can even just fast travel to whatever camp you want for free"
>a second monster showing up during a quest is the worst thing because both monsters will decide the hunters must die
<world: "EPIC MONSTER FIGHTS THAT DO TONS OF TRUE DAMAGE TO THE MONSTER WHO IS LOWER ON THE FOOD CHAIN! well, when the AI works and the monsters aren't spazzing around eachother and being fucking retarded
>entire village quest area is a retard containment box to determine if the game is for you before going online to hunt the big game
<world: "lol what are village quests? Lets jus throw 500 prompts on the screen and have the ugliest fuckface ramble at you non fucking stop about what to do while "PRESS X TO DO AWESOME" keeps springing up on the screen"
>areas are well designed battlefields separated by 2 second loading screens that still take a while to march through
<world: "We removed the transition gates! Oh, but the monsters still act like they are there and they instead take a 4 minute walk through however many hallways they need to go through before ending up at the area they want, so I hope you enjoy your jogging simulator. Oh wait, you just fast travel to a nearby camp. I almost forgot. Lol why did we remove screen transitions if you are just gonna fast travel and use a screen transition? lol who cares?"
>pinning a monster was not only a careful juggling of stamina, but also winning a tug of war vs the monster
<world: "Just PRESS X TO DO AWESOME while the monster flails around hopelessly while you do high damage to whatever part of the body you like with no risk of being knocked off!"
>work steadily towards G rank for super armor sets with super abilities to make hunting much more effective for your specific prey
<world: "lol why wait, here have a fucking mantle that gives 5 G rank skills stacked"
And that's just to start. Shills and normalfaggots will defend this shit like their life depends on it.
2ac425 No.14293650
>>14293566
wew, I was looking at the in-game wiki and it refers to her as an "it" even though they are the female only counterpart to rathalos.
How did capcom fuck something so obvious and so easy to explain like that up?
56a5e7 No.14293663
>>14293610
Monster Hunter fans are now understanding what Street Fighter fans have had to put up with since 2016 and SFV.
Fucking Capcucks that will defend any old shit Capcom puts out.
08a785 No.14293664
>>14293650
bruh, these faggots didn't even include deviljho or poogie in the base game. These fucks just marketed it to the normalfags to throw it out the door because normalfags will pay full price for an unfinished game.
7ed13b No.14293696
>>14293663
I'm a metroid and former pokemon fan, trust me, I understand
503b6b No.14293698
>>14293376
>Does the game ever refer to her as queen of the skies or mention that she is a female yet?
Yes, in just about every quest name for her, it's something to the effect of Sylvan Queen or Queen.
5fd122 No.14293712
>>14293205
Yea why is this? I played Freedom 2 or whatever (Didn't have nargacuga) then emulator for portable 3rd.
But i never got super far till 4G and i dumped 600 hours into the game.
Thinking about emulating the Wiii U one if it doesn't run like total garbage.
08a785 No.14293714
>>14293663
I was seeing that shit unfold and I was just going "man, Capcom is just fucking up everything. At least mon hun is still good"
WELL FUCK GUESS NICE THINGS DON'T HAPPEN IN THIS TIMELINE
08a785 No.14293720
>>14293712
>3U
good taste. underwater combat is fucky, but not terrible.
7ed13b No.14293721
>>14293712
Wiiu is decent if you can get past underwater. It's a little overhated, but it was definitely a failed experiment.
864379 No.14293731
>>14293610
<World: "lol do both. the flex is harrrrrd and makes casuals feel bad they can't just hammer the healing button"
>leaving out that using healing items take longer, the bar fills slowly over time, instead of instantly, and having the healing animation get interrupted by anything stops the healing effect and uses up the potion, effectively making getting hit while healing even more punishing
>building armor depends on if you focus on using a bowgun or a melee weapon, one giving more physical defenses while the other gives elemental defenses, leading you to possibly needing to build two different sets of armor from the same monster if you want certain skills, thus forcing you to focus generally in one or the other or attain maximum autism singularity
How is this a good thing? It's effectively railroading the player into melee or ranged, unless they want to do double the grind to use both. Not to mention, you get way more bang for your buck with blademaster sets than gunner sets. Now, you still get the defense differences between blademaster and gunner, you just don't have to do more arbitrary grinding if you want to use both.
<world: "lol just have a giant obscuring green blob point you to it and have the monster stick on your map like a GPS because what is hunting?"
>ignoring it takes time and effort to get to that point, and that the maps are so large now that trying to seek them out otherwise would be much more tedious and time consuming
<"PRESS X TO DO AWESOME" keeps springing up on the screen
Those tutorial messages go away after the first few hunts, as well as the handler telling you how to play.
>pinning a monster was not only a careful juggling of stamina, but also winning a tug of war vs the monster
And it still is, only now, you have to pay attention to what the monster is doing, instead of just looking at a colored bar to see when you can attack or need to hold on.
A lot of your criticisms seemed to be based on looking at MH at a surface level, without actually looking into the mechanics, in depth, to see how they work out. Hell, two of your images were posted when there was barely anything out about the game, aside from some limited press demos. I mean, World has a bunch of shit changes, but actually research what you're complaining about, instead of blurting out things you've seen other anons say without looking into it, yourself.
56a5e7 No.14293745
>>14293731
>You say Capcuck enough times one will appear and defend shit.
Every. Fucking. Time.
08a785 No.14293746
>>14293745
erry time.
>>14293731
here is your (You) since your argument is using dated information.
8d045a No.14293753
>>14293731
The problem I have with sets is that visually they aren't different anymore. It's like if you played an RPG and mages and warriors all had plate armor but different armor values.
992a94 No.14293754
>>14293745
Nice argument, anon. Really puts into perspective how all you do is cry "Capcuck" in place of actually refuting things. Good work.
864379 No.14293759
>>14293746
>dated information.
What dated information? All of this is based off gameplay from the released game. If it's outdated, then you can obviously argue against my points and show how they're wrong, instead of just claiming they're wrong with nothing to back it up.
>>14293753
Each set has two versions, and they are visually different in more than just swapping palettes.
5fd122 No.14293764
>>14293721
>>14293720
I'd still consider myself new to MH altogether.
I'll give 3U a shot, I'm looking at the monster list and it looks pretty fun.
Zinogre is my favorite so that's a plus.
Thanks anons. Here's hoping the Wii U emulator actually works since the last time i tired it.
d55772 No.14293769
>>14293610
>posting screencap where peoples speculate things before the beta even release
>Typical MS paint tier argument "I smart, you dumb"
Might as well post chad memes than that tl;dr
75ca2d No.14293780
>>14293610
Lol just go naked and afraid if it's too easy you big baby.
5f5a3a No.14293785
>>14293610
Not that you're entirely wrong, but you're being hyperbolic and excluding information for the sake of making your argument seem stronger.
<World: "lol do both. the flex is harrrrrd and makes casuals feel bad they can't just hammer the healing button"
Drinking potions slows you down to crawl and can easily be interrupted. Decided to drink a potion while the monster was roaring? Good job, fuckass, you just wasted your potion. Try again. The time it takes to fully chug down a potion or an antidote is actually longer than the squoosh and flex animations.
<world: "lol the monster fell into a hole. Lol, the monster got trapped in vines. Lol, the monster did a charge it does all the time and knocked it's self out"
This isn't new, there's just more opportunities to do it. MH4U allowed you to stunlock monsters by getting them stuck in the vine canopy, or make them hurt themselves by goading them into charging into destructible terrain. Monoblos and Diablos were all about goading them into getting stuck in the wall. Not like flash bomb and trap spam weren't the only way some people got through the game anyways.
<world: "lol you only need one point of any skill to make it work because casualretards who never read the rules on how armor works are too stupid to figure that out"
Skills are still gradated, meaning one point in Attack Up or Health up, for instance, only gives you 3 more attack or 15 more health, while stacking ranks will net the high result. Charms, Talismans and mixing and matching sets are still present, you just don't need to use Athena's Autism planner to figure out how to scrounge together 2 more skill points to get the skill you want.
<world: "lol one armor set does everything because otherwise casuals don't get it"
There are gunner variants of armor that specifically give some gunner skills once you hit high rank. Otherwise, it's just more options to mix and match instead of forcing you to put in double the effort just to build a completely separate set of armor for the few times you feel like gunning. Gunners can wear the high defense armor meant for lancers, but sacrifice all the skills they need, or they can wear the lower defense gunner set and have the skills they need. Sure is broken now! MonHun is DEAD.
<world: "lol just have a giant obscuring green blob point you to it and have the monster stick on your map like a GPS because what is hunting?"
Monsters always spawned in the same areas, ran to the same nests, and limped to the same zones to eat and drink when tired. The maps in MHW are much larger and the ancient forest has so many fucking layers. The scoutflies do make it easy as fuck, but it's no different than having a paintball, which was just a wasted inventory slot or a boring armor skill to invest in. Not like you wouldn't learn exactly where the monster would be after a couple hunts, because the earlier games were predictable as fuck.
<world: "lol there are, like, 7-8 camps per map and you have full access to your item box in all of them and can completely restock your items and can change your weapons and armor and can even just fast travel to whatever camp you want for free"
I think 5 is the most camps any one map has, you have to go out of your way to find and unlock them, you can't go back to them in the middle of a fight without using a farcaster. Yet again, the maps are much bigger. It is easy to abuse, but what kind of faggot do you have to be to keep running back to camp to stock up on mega potions anyways? you should be bitching about the auto-crafting where you can restock on potions while jogging between zones.
(fucking body limits)
d55772 No.14293786
>>14293746
>here is your (You) since your argument is using dated information.
>While he himself posting screencap from before the game was release
Really get the nogging jogging
5f5a3a No.14293788
<world: "EPIC MONSTER FIGHTS THAT DO TONS OF TRUE DAMAGE TO THE MONSTER WHO IS LOWER ON THE FOOD CHAIN! well, when the AI works and the monsters aren't spazzing around each other and being fucking retarded
Yeah, this is a little overplayed, but it's better that monsters will actually hurt and damage each other, instead of just pinning you between two flailing hitboxes from entities that may as well not even be on the same plane of existence.
>entire village quest area is a retard containment box to determine if the game is for you before going online to hunt the big game
The game has been scaling gathering hall quests for single player since MHF2. Online never was some super sekrit club for the people who got truly gud.
<world: "lol what are village quests? Lets jus throw 500 prompts on the screen and have the ugliest fuckface ramble at you non fucking stop about what to do while "PRESS X TO DO AWESOME" keeps springing up on the screen"
The opening scene is bad, but the rest isn't even remotely like what you're describing.
<world: "We removed the transition gates! Oh, but the monsters still act like they are there and they instead take a 4 minute walk through however many hallways they need to go through before ending up at the area they want, so I hope you enjoy your jogging simulator. Oh wait, you just fast travel to a nearby camp. I almost forgot. Lol why did we remove screen transitions if you are just gonna fast travel and use a screen transition? lol who cares?"
Monsters will chase you between zones, but will give up if you get far enough away. If they're still aggro'd on you, the game won't let you warp away.
<world: "Just PRESS X TO DO AWESOME while the monster flails around hopelessly while you do high damage to whatever part of the body you like with no risk of being knocked off!"
Mounting does 1 damage per hit until you build up enough mystery meter to do one big attack. Mounting was way more broken in MH4U.
<world: "lol why wait, here have a fucking mantle that gives 5 G rank skills stacked"
You greatly overstate the effectiveness and utility of mantles. You get one of them at a time and it doesn't even last that long. Most will wear off in the time it takes you to run after a monster when it leaves zone.
The game is a lot easier and way more forgiving in a lot of ways. I can understand if you appreciated the fiddly crunch of the previous games, but I hardly feel like the removal of the more annoying shit and the unintentional punishments that they caused are cause for screeching and whining. Next time, instead of using stale copypasta and inaccurate bullshit, talk about the game as it actually is and stop deifying the clunky mechanics of previous games just because they were older. You may as well be telling us that the game sucks because it uses face buttons for attacks instead of the right analog stick like the REAL Monster Hunter game did.
56a5e7 No.14293817
>>14293754
MHW is shit if I'm wrong show me actual proof its not shit.
08a785 No.14293824
>>14293759
you're an obvious shill capcuck apologist, but I suppose I'll humor your bait for the moment.
>healing takes longer
yeah, but you're able to move and even run while doing so, where are you vulnerable?
>heals over time
no it doesn't, it's instant like the other games and just has the slow refill animation. If you played any game before Tri, you'd be familiar with this.
>used up when hit
maybe when the healing actually takes effect, but you can just run while healing so it's a non factor
>how is having a variety of an armor set and a dedication to one or the other a good thing?
Because instant gratification is NOT part of monster hunter; you have to earn every victory, even if that victory is a single monster part to build the last piece of your armor set. Dedication is required to simply assemble a single armor set. Want to build more than one? Get hunting and fucking earn it.
>effort to get to the monster
no it isn't, I mentioned fast travel is a thing available from the get go and you only have to SEE the monster for it to stick on your GPS, even if it's not the target. You don't even need to grab "clues" if you walk into the fucker, but if you SOMEHOW don't run into it, a handful of clues will slap it on your gps anyway because what is this thing called hunting?
>the tutorial messages go away
no, they don't, the retard wrangler is there from start to finish and the prompts are all over the fucking place
>need to pay attention to where you hang on
no you fucking don't, you get knocked off, you get a snazzy animation of lassoing back onto it and the only "struggle" is your stamina bar running out, which is not likely to happen unless you're a tard who doesn't regularly eat stamina items AKA a casualfag.
>surface level complaining
as I said as the end of my comment "and that's just to start". The lack of humor in the game is insulting, the color are fucked, everything visually is ruined by this incessant green blob of bugs, but the game won't let me turn THOSE fucks off, it's built around damage numbers to show the retards they are doing damage, and most of all, the game isn't the least bit challenging.
I can retard my way through the game and the hand holding will gladly see me through to the end because why the fuck should I need to put effort into getting a victory, am I right?
c216b9 No.14293831
>>14293610
>need to carefully construct armor+talasman+wrapon loadouts to ensure you add up the points needed to activate skills
<world: "lol you only need one point of any skill to make it work because casualretards who never read the rules on how armor works are too stupid to figure that out"
Imagine unironically defending the convoluted trash that is MH's skill system. I've been playing since FU and I can still see it for what it is. Why can't you?
>no paintballs
Paintballs were just an abstraction to represent tracking the monster, which neither game actually makes you do. Honestly both systems are casual shit and you're blind to it because it's what you're used to.
> jogging simulator
How the fuck are other MH games any better in this regard? In fact MHW not draining stamina for regular running makes that less shit.
I can't comment on the rest due to lack of experience: I haven't played MHW and I bet you and most of the other retards here haven't either. But boy do you fuckers feel qualified to shit on something you haven't even played.
7ed13b No.14293849
>>14293831
>Imagine unironically defending the convoluted trash that is MH's skill system. I've been playing since FU and I can still see it for what it is. Why can't you?
Look at this literal retard who can't count to 10
8d045a No.14293857
>>14293831
>Imagine unironically defending the convoluted trash that is MH's skill system.
You mean the skill system that requires commitment from the part of the player to get any sort of effect from? The same commitment the ENTIRE series is based on? You need commitment during attacks, healing, sharpening, what items you're gonna bring to the hunt, your goal for the quest (slaying/capturing/gathering) and commit to your goal. MH has always been about committing to a task both in and out of the game, MHW removes a lot of that since you can move while healing and roll during it to avoid taking damage (you lose the full effect of the potion but you still keep more health than if you face tanked the hit in the previous games, without the risk of being stunned) so there's less commitment. Fuck up your preparation? Just gear up at camp. Upgrade weapons like a retard? Just downgrade them, why would you commit to your decisions and have to live with them.
They downplayed the commitment and preparation aspects of MH really hard in World, you'd have to be an idiot not to see it. Hell they even added good changes to these core elements, like being able to see the weapon tree so you can plan ahead and commit to the path you want your weapon to take without looking it up.
8d045a No.14293861
>>14293857
*looking it up online
08a785 No.14293894
Hooktube embed. Click on thumbnail to play.
>>14293831
>haven't played it
niggerfaggot
d55772 No.14293902
>>14293824
>yeah, but you're able to move and even run while doing so
running and running while drinking potion are not the same speed.
>no it doesn't, it's instant like the other games
Look at the webm again retard, it lights up the amount of hp you are recovering and then the green bar start filling it. I f you got hit or dodge during thing, it will stop healing and you wasted the potion
>no, they don't, the retard wrangler is there from start to finish and the prompts are all over the fucking place
Stop fucking lying if you haven't played the game, the button prompt stop appearing after a few quest. Same goes to cutscenes, it only appear once after you clear the quest. If you repeat the same story quest, there wont be any cutscene.
>no it isn't, I mentioned fast travel is a thing available from the get go
No, Camp need to be unlock, you only be given 1 at the start, the rest you'll get by searching for it or by story quest.
>no you fucking don't, you get knocked off, you get a snazzy animation of lassoing back onto it
Yes you do because the monster didn't just trying to shake you off, they will try to rammed you on the wall or trees, which you can't "lasso" back if you squish.
2d63af No.14293908
>>14293857
>like being able to see the weapon tree so you can plan ahead and commit to the path you want your weapon to take without looking it up
So the game being more convenient is somehow a bad thing? Are you retarded?
7ed13b No.14293920
>>14293908
Are you? Or did you just not read the post before responding long enough to see where they said that was a good change?
5c1a33 No.14293922
>>14292126
Has someone opened a new Session yet?
2d63af No.14293931
>>14293920
No I just skimmed through it because his complaints are all retarded that I didn't read all his whining about how if you forgot something it's better to have to restart the whole quest rather than be able to just grab it at camp. He obviously hasn't even played the game either since most of his complaints are just lies anyway.
08a785 No.14293943
>>14293908
Yes it's a bad thing.
d55772 No.14293944
>>14293922
If you want to join the squad, only leader can invite you in, if you already in the squad, you dont need session ID to party up
56a5e7 No.14293946
>>14293920
Like I said before Capcucks. They just blind rage without looking at all the points made. Its all they know how to do. Their blind loyalty to one of the most jewish of Japanese companies blocks all reason.
8d045a No.14293950
>>14293931
>restart the whole quest
So you're a scrub that just quits instead of winging it, I bet you're one of the homofags that also quits out of the zone to heal and sharpen instead of doing it close to the monster to avoid downtime and re-entry risks.
2d63af No.14293952
>>14293950
It's hard to wing a capture with no fucking traps faggot.
08a785 No.14293955
>>14293931
<have to restart the whole quest
>going into a quest when you'e not prepared
08a785 No.14293962
>>14293952
Don't like it? Fucking prep for the quest. Ran out of traps in the quest? Your fucking fault for not using them correctly. Monster hunter was very blatant about failure states being directly tied to how much of a faggot you were.
8d045a No.14293965
>>14293952
Then why the fuck did you take a capture quest, which is a rare quest compared to the amount of hunting quests so you don't have the excuse of just doing the grind and forgetting stuff, without preparing yourself? If you go out hunting for ducks and you brought your deer call it's your fucking fault for being unprepared.
2d63af No.14293981
>>14293965
That's why you had to restart nigger. Christ it's amazing they release this shit in the west at all when there are faggots like you actively trying to get people to not play the game.
864379 No.14293985
>>14293824
>yeah, but you're able to move and even run while doing so, where are you vulnerable?
Slower than without healing, and doing anything, such as climbing or dodging, cancels it.
>no it doesn't, it's instant like the other games and just has the slow refill animation.
No, it isn't instant. If the animation is canceled at any time, the green bar stops right where it was at that time. If you dodge halfway through a heal, you only get half the heal.
>maybe when the healing actually takes effect
It's taking effect the entire time your character is chugging that potion.
>Because instant gratification is NOT part of monster hunter; you have to earn every victory, even if that victory is a single monster part to build the last piece of your armor set. Dedication is required to simply assemble a single armor set. Want to build more than one? Get hunting and fucking earn it.
You're just defending arbitrary grinding. If you've made one set for a monster, you've already shown you have the skill required to do so. Requiring you to grind the same mount just so you can try out a different kind of weapon doesn't do anything but use up more of your time. MH is a fucking video game, not a job.
>I mentioned fast travel is a thing available from the get go
But only one camp is available from the get-go, and you have to unlock the others.
>you only have to SEE the monster for it to stick on your GPS
For that quest, only. And you act like paint balls were this significant thing, when, really, they were just an inventory slot waster, and forgetting to use them was just a slight inconvenience, given how small maps were in previous titles. Even if you didn't know its habits, finding a monster was, usually, fairly quick, as it didn't take long to cover a map. As large, vertical, and intricate as the maps are, now, having no way to find a monster, aside from paintballing, would make seeking them out take a ridiculously long time.
>no, they don't
Yes, they do. The handler keeps talking, but only for story specific shit. She stops telling you that you need to dodge the monster after the first time she does so. If you mean the combo lists that appear in the top right corner of the screen, that is not "x to awesome".
>you get a snazzy animation of lassoing back onto it
That only happens if you still have stamina, and it takes a huge chunk of stamina when it does happen.
>The lack of humor in the game is insulting
It has about the same amount of humor as the previous games, complete with goofy animations.
>the color are fucked
How so? As far as I can tell, it's just a bit less anime in its color palette than 3 or 4, and even 2 was pretty toned down in terms of color.
>it's built around damage numbers to show the retards they are doing damage
The damage numbers are there to actually give you effective feedback as to how well you are doing. The blood splatters in the previous games were barely noticeable, unless you specifically payed attention to them (something you're probably not concerned about when a monster can take most of your health bar if you get careless), and they provided no frame of reference. Sure, you could see if you were doing more damage, but you had no real indicator of how much more damage, nor any baseline to know if any blood splatter was enough damage. The MH series was so terrible at providing feedback to the player that even vets recommended the use of databases outside the game. That wasn't a good thing.
>the game isn't the least bit challenging.
The games have never been challenging at LR, which you apparently only have played, if you've played the game at all. HR will kick your ass if you make a mistake.
503b6b No.14293987
>>14293981
>You're trying to keep people from playing the game
>I'm too retarded to make sure I'm prepared for the fucking quests
How fucking stupid do you have to be?
8d045a No.14293997
>>14293981
>Play badly and go into quest unprepared
>Suffer for it by having to restart the quest
>Why are all these faggots trying to get people to not play the game
Are you mentally ill? Nobody's keeping you from playing the game but yourself, you're the moron that's unable to adapt to the game and instead wants it to adapt to your failures.
d55772 No.14294004
>>14293943
>Screencap from April last year
Except the QoL isn't given to you on a silver platter. You only have 1 camp at the start, the scoutflies doesn't automatically tracked monster from the get go, by the time you reach a level where you unlocked everything, you already familiarize yourself with the map and monsters location.
d3666c No.14294009
Wait can't you go in your item box in the tent?
56a5e7 No.14294011
>>14293985
>he damage numbers are there to actually give you effective feedback as to how well you are doing. The blood splatters in the previous games were barely noticeable, unless you specifically payed attention to them (something you're probably not concerned about when a monster can take most of your health bar if you get careless), and they provided no frame of reference.
SO what your saying is they dumbed it down for casuals.
5c1a33 No.14294012
>>14293944
well, i'd like to join but how do i contact him?
bbf2b5 No.14294021
Anon that started pklaying 3rd recently.
So I found a calling with the Gunlance. Upgraded to a bone lance for now and planning to build a great bone lance. Any way to get my Felyne comrades to not dick around when I'm trying to fight shit
7ed13b No.14294023
>>14293985
>muh arbitrary grinding
No, in actual monster hunter games, you get better, learn the monster's attack pattern, and all of its tells more after every quest. In mhw, since skill isn't required, they should just unlock the full armor set and all weapons after beating the monster once, because after your first fight, it actually is arbitrary grinding.
2d63af No.14294027
>>14293997
>>14293987
I bet you guys are the same faggots that complain about every new monster hunter because they changed something. I remember when 4U came out and all you niggers were complaining about mounting because it makes the game too casual and stupid shit like that.
d55772 No.14294033
>>14294012
Gotta wait until he post the new session ID, the squad system the most stupidest guild system ever created
2d63af No.14294035
>>14294023
Could you explain why skill isn't required? Because you niggers keep saying that but you never say why.
503b6b No.14294037
>>14294021
Your options are either not play with the Palico active, or just accept that it's going to be a dipshit until you're low health for the Vigorwasp Delivery.
>>14294027
Started with Freedom Unite on PSP, then went on to 3 Tri and 4u on 3ds, and now I'm thoroughly enjoying World. I'm sorry to shatter your preconceptions you fucking retard.
75ca2d No.14294046
You're all wrong, the real issue was right in front of us.
http://archive.is/wRH6h
bbf2b5 No.14294048
>>14294037
Well sometimes they do shit. I just wanted to know if there was a way to tell them WHEN to do shit.
d3666c No.14294051
>>14294037
>hating on palicoes
Give them a sleep or para weapon and they'll put the monster out for you once or twice.
d3666c No.14294059
>>14294048
You can manually use their gadget from your item list to make them use it if it's not on cooldown, that's about it
8d045a No.14294060
>>14294027
Nice assumption, keep flailing about like a retard since you clearly have no other argument. For the record, FU is my personal favorite while I consider 4U to be the objective best, as in FU's my favorite due to nostalgia/challenge while 4U's the best due to monster quantity and design, along with level design and small improvements that didn't fuck with the core pillars of the series.
503b6b No.14294071
>>14294048
When you hit level 10 proficiency on a gadget, you get to manually activate the gadget. That's about it.
>>14294051
I've actually been liking the Shieldspire. Having them taunt the monster so you have a second to heal up should you need to is really nice. Flashfly Cage is the only gadget I haven't levelled yet barring the Plunderblade.
bbf2b5 No.14294077
>>14294059
well fuck.
Gotta rebuild funds and hunt the Azueros for a bit. G. Jaggi is just a bit too much for me to chew on at the moment
7ed13b No.14294087
>>14294035
>monster attacks come out slow
>lol, just get another monster to do it for you
>healing while running
>infinite potions
>free infinite farcaster
>lol, if that's not enough, here's some vigorwasps
>fucking i frames in a god damn monster hunter
>lol, what is committing to actions
864379 No.14294097
>>14294011
>SO what your saying is they dumbed it down for casuals.
What they did was make it so you didn't have to go to kiranico or download a dex if you wanted to know where to hit a monster with what.
>No, in actual monster hunter games, you get better, learn the monster's attack pattern, and all of its tells more after every quest.
There is a goddamn ceiling, you know it, and you're ignoring how the rng likes to screw people. Someone can get all the materials they need in three hunts. Someone else might need ten hunts, and the only difference is how much luck they had. That has nothing to do with skill or dedication, it's just arbitrarily making some people have to hunt more than other people for the same exact reward.
08a785 No.14294098
>>14294004
I already elaborated on this and even the post, dated or not, is still on the mark in that these casualizations are not qol.
Also, people keep trying to argue "that shit was from the beta/demo!" yet it makes it to the final game and they defend it by saying "you're using an old screencap" when it's no different from the final product.
All bait to try and force someone to buy the shit on the plate.
cf6d4b No.14294104
>>14294060
>best level design
>4U
what
d3666c No.14294106
>>14294077
Wait which monhun are you playing?
>>14294071
Coral cheerhorn is the best by far, though
7ed13b No.14294110
>>14294106
Learn to read the damn posts, nigger
bbf2b5 No.14294121
>>14294106
already said 3rd on PSP
a4a38d No.14294128
>>14294087
>I frames in monster Hunter
Yes? They've been in the series for ages.
>infinite potions
No and first aid meds if that's what you mean were already part of the series, unless you mean the flying up bugs in which case yeah good luck relying on those for your healing.
Yeah the game is more casual, it still isn't a casual game.
8d045a No.14294129
>>14294104
Yeah that point's a bit subjective, I just felt the ledges gave more variety to the environment without feeling too overbearing. Sorry anon.
2d63af No.14294130
>>14294087
>monster attacks come out slow
Fight something other than the first three monsters on LR
>lol, just get another monster to do it for you
Half the time they come to kill you not the other monster
>infinite potions
Enjoy running out of time because you are a shitter and have to run back to the monster every five seconds
>free infinite farcaster
You can't use it in combat so it's not nearly as useful as you make it out to be
>lol, if that's not enough, here's some vigorwasps
They appear so rarely if you don't have them on your cat that you can't rely on them
>fucking i frames in a god damn monster hunter
Have you even played monster hunter faggot the dodge has always had i frames
>lol, what is committing to actions
If anything faggot potions take more commitment than they used to as they take almost three times as long to heal and they aren't instant so if you roll or climb while drinking you don't get shit for health back
7ed13b No.14294133
>>14294128
>>14294130
I'm talking about i frames in attacks and combos, not the dodge, you donkey fucking inbreds
864379 No.14294140
>>14294087
>monster attacks come out slow
In low rank.
>lol, just get another monster to do it for you
You can't consistently make monsters meet each other, and they don't always engage in turf war. If they do, they often gang up on you, afterward, anyway.
>healing while running
Running slowly, healing slowly, and any interruption wasting the potion.
>infinite potions
It still takes materials to craft them, and replenishing your stock from your camp takes quest time.
>free infinite farcaster
That only works when a monster isn't trying to eat your face off.
>lol, if that's not enough, here's some vigorwasps
Valid, but they only spawn in specific areas, meaning you have to be fortunate enough to be fighting the monster in those areas. It's a bad change, but not as bad as you make it out to be.
>fucking i frames in a god damn monster hunter
MH always had i-frames. It had skills specifically for increasing i-frames, as well.
>lol, what is committing to actions
Somewhat valid, but it has been an increasing trend in the series before MHW.
a00531 No.14294149
>>14294133
Don't swear anon that's rude and you're still wrong.
5f5a3a No.14294150
>>14294130
>Have you even played monster hunter faggot the dodge has always had i frames
More specifically, the evasion skill literally gives you more i-frames and it's been in the game since at least MHFU.
2d63af No.14294151
>>14294133
Do you even have proof of this because I have never fucking seen that happen ever.
864379 No.14294156
>>14294133
Super armor during certain attacks has been in MH well before World.
7ed13b No.14294161
>>14294156
Super armor=/=i frames
Super armor is prevention from knockback, you still take the damage
06cd43 No.14294165
>finally manage to connect to a game
>disconnect leaving me with a full MP HP nergigante for me to solo
Is anyone else having trouble connecting? I swear this garbage fucking sony network system never works well for a full day.
2d63af No.14294167
>>14294161
Show me where you get i frames during an attack because I have never once seen that actually happen.
d55772 No.14294171
>>14294098
>I already elaborated on this and even the post, dated or not, is still on the mark
It wasn't on the mark because the poster was under the pretense that the player were given these advantages without the need to learn anything.
503b6b No.14294172
>>14294165
I had that issue earlier while fighting a HR Jyuratodus. Just dropped connection near the start of the fight, still had the MP HP pool and all, ended up getting help from Bazel like 3 times and still barely killed it.
7ed13b No.14294178
>>14294167
Either it's straight up i frames in some of the longsword/switch axe combos, possibly more, or hitboxes are buggier than a gay bar in LA
cf6d4b No.14294188
>>14294106
>world's shill is illiterate
Really makes you think…
>>14294121
The best way to get felynes to not dick about when you're fighting a monster is to give them last stand and no armor and hope they die as quickly as possible.
Felynes only make things harder except for maybe if you're playing gunner or you're really bad at not dying
>>14294129
That's ok, honestly ledge walls and high ledges didn't bother me, what pissed me off was slopes that affected your effective movement speed compared to a stationary monster or caused monster hitboxes to have longer or shorter range than they otherwise should without being properly rebalanced around the changes, and those itty bitty ledges (especially on the tower peak) which are easy to miss and force you into a long, vulnerable, jump.
2d63af No.14294192
>>14294178
Then show me an example nigger. Because you keep saying this shit and I have never actually seen it ever happen and you just keep coming back and saying "Hurr i frames during attacks.".
08a785 No.14294195
>>14294097
<What they did was make it so you didn't have to go to kiranico or download a dex if you wanted to know where to hit a monster with what.
>hit body part with a slash and the weapon sticks and you get a big blood spurt
>that's a good hit
>hit a body part with a slash weapon and it doesn't stick
>that's a bad hit
>hit head with hammer to cause knockout
man that's haaarrrddd
503b6b No.14294233
>>14294197
I seriously wish I was a fly on the wall for the meeting where they came up with Bazel.
>"We need a new monster similar to Deviljho that just constantly comes in and fucks up your fights"
>"I've got it! We make a stealth bomber dragon that just shows up for 10 seconds long enough to cart the retarded Japs on your team!"
2ac425 No.14294235
>>14294197
>implaying she wasnt the one I was looking for the whole time
223b8e No.14294243
>>14294197
I don't own a PS4 so I've been watching people on twitch play MHW, and people keep complaining about Bazel.
I can't wait for Savage Devil Jho to appear and watch them see Bazel and everything they love getting eaten
864379 No.14294257
>>14294195
You are greatly oversimplifying it, as well as making the blood spatters to be more useful than they really were. Again, you have no frame of reference for blood splatters. As far as you know, a big blood spurt might be twice as much damage as a smaller one, or it might be something like 1.2 times as much damage. Without this knowledge, you have no idea how important it is to prioritize weak spots. This is especially important for quests with small time limits, like elder dragon hunts and the harder investigations in World, because knowing how much you should prioritize weak spots can be the one difference between success and failure. Plus, blood spatters are terrible for telling you how effective your element is or just how much stronger one attack is over another. And, while the head is important for knockout damage, it's not always the weakest part of a monster to impact damage. If you've got multiple people with impact weapons, it's usually better if only one or two focus on the head, so people aren't tripping each other up by all focusing on the same spot.
2ac425 No.14294488
>>14294243
>implying bazel wouldnt just fly out of its range and bomb the shit out of it from the sky
Would would the deviljho eat then?
Bazels explosive testicles?
dbeefe No.14294496
>>14294150
And if you maxed the evasion skill in previous games it practically turned into a Platinum game with how lenient the i-frames became.
>Max evasion skill
>Don't need earplugs skill because you can just roll through roars
>The only attack that's a threat anymore is charging attacks because you just roll right through everything else and facefuck the monster
>Hunts suddenly get really short because you're never knocked down and thus don't need to use potions ever
Granted this is if you're good at the games, which I definitely was.
>>14294243
I want a quest that features both Deviljho and Bazel and preferably in the arena just to watch the salt flow.
223b8e No.14294505
>>14294488
We are talking about a monster whos so angry that he's going to eat his own severed tail, so I wouldn't put it past him
dbeefe No.14294525
>>14294505
>>14294488
>Deviljho eats Bazel's explosive bits
>It makes his dragonbreath range longer
5c1a33 No.14294572
>>14294488
>tfw no savage bazelgeuse with even larger carpet bombing with explosives triggering alot faster
>gets the deviljho laser
>suddenly gets the urge to pin down any Hunters to eat them
8d045a No.14294639
>>14294572
>savage Bazelgeuse and savage Jho team up
>Bazel bombing the shit out of everything, Jho flying on top of Bazel shooting dragon breath everywhere dropping everything around the two
>they skydive at hunters for fun
>Rajang also shows up and is riding on top of Jho
b0f129 No.14294654
>>14292126
>>14292366
>>14293922
Sorry my friends, I forgot to check for a new thread.
New ID: 4AyHuNumawXb
(Thursday 4:09pm eastern time)
Can't someone in the session check the ID themselves, or does it only show up for me? All I do is open the player list and it's right there.
>>14292776
>>14293164
You guys know you can change it so that you can lock-on like all other MH games, right?
I tap L1 to rotate the camera to the monster all the time. It's in the settings. Use Type 3 in Target Camera Controls.
>>14294233
>"I've got it! We make a stealth bomber dragon that just shows up for 10 seconds long enough to cart the retarded Japs on your team!"
I had a nice giggle, and I think I know who this is. Thanks for the laugh.
1b4f0c No.14294660
I hope they add more weapon types in updates like a boomerang or chakrams or even something on a chain, game needs more ranged options. Although I wonder if the current ranged options are properly balanced. Is the heavy bowgun still the most "efficient" weapon or have the other weapons been brought to speed? Any weapons that just flat out overshadow others like the chargeblade outperforming the hammer in 4U?
5371d7 No.14294690
>>14294654
I know you can change the lock on, but I've never used lock on in that game either. I was just curious how many people actually USED the lock on mechanic.
addb51 No.14294707
>>14293664
>no poogie in the base game
You're embarrassing yourself.
8053fc No.14294714
>>14292107
Are there any more zettai-like female armors?
I have Nercylla and Zamtrios which has also been my best armor through 3* & half of 4*
864379 No.14294720
>>14294707
It wasn't. They added it in a day 1 patch.
e31da9 No.14294724
Is there some trick to vaal hazaaak? I've fought him a couple times now and even though he's not too tough at all he does piss through my resources since standing near him will fuck up my health bar. Am i really supposed to wait till he does his breath attack every damn time
addb51 No.14294725
>>14294720
Yeah well fuck me, I guess
dbeefe No.14294728
>>14294720
So it's just the complaints of a third world nigger with shit internet then.
cc264e No.14294731
>>14294724
Get effluvia expert and effluvia resistance, and his gimmick is entirely gone
a03d2f No.14294737
>>14292776
I just never think to use it. I guess 1000+ hours on handheld monhun made me used to it.
e31da9 No.14294744
>>14294731
bummer, i was hoping there was an environment trick like how you can shoot a torch pod at the ground in the other gassy parts of the vale
864379 No.14294749
>>14294728
It's about the principle. Poogie has been a series staple for a long time, so the fact that they took so long to implement it that it had to be added through a patch is a weird oversight of theirs.
dbeefe No.14294759
>>14294749
Weird oversights are bound to happen when you move your series from a 240p toaster to 1080p+ capable machines.
b0f129 No.14294761
>>14294690
Oh well I do for sure.
Force of habit but it's also better. Specially for monsters like Odogaron.
>>14294724
Don't let him heal. That's what I noticed on my first try, and I beat him. It was a long fight for sure though.
Try flashing or barrel bombs when he tries to pull that shit.
a03d2f No.14294790
>>14293610
Almost all of these are wrong or exaggerated. This hate hard-on for World is getting really stupid, especially when it's clear you haven't touched the game.
addb51 No.14294792
>>14294724
It's weird, I thought he was insanely easy the first time I fought him. Went through maybe three or four nullberries. The next time, he might as well have been a different monster. Same gear, same weapon, same everything (maybe a different palico skill), and I went through a full stack of berries and almost all of my mega potions. He was infinitely more aggressive and his effluvia aura was bullshit.
e31da9 No.14294808
>>14294792
i fought him 2-3 times and i'd agree. although he wasn't too tough to fail me outside of his first encounter her put up more of a fight. Still one of the easiest elder dragons in the series though since you can lay into him while he does his long ass breath attack
d55772 No.14294842
>>14294654
ID no longer exist
a03d2f No.14294919
>>14294842
Just tried it and it works for me.
d55772 No.14294935
>>14294919
must be my connection
481ff3 No.14294991
>>14293445
>he thinks no one used turret fire
>>14293663
Resident Evil is a zombie, how ironic. Dead Rising is beyond dead.
>>14293769
>those "speculated" things came to pass
>but lets divert attention from that
>>14293788
>Mounting does 1 damage per hit until you build up enough mystery meter to do one big attack. Mounting was way more broken in MH4U.
This whole fucking post is retarded, but this is the most noteworthy one. It's ok that it takes no skill because the other one expected you to work for your topple, which is the only reason you mount a monster for to begin with. Casuals are fucking braindead to the core.
>>14294790
>they're wrong because I said so
Suckstart a shotgun.
cc264e No.14295016
>>14294991
>It's ok that it takes no skill because the other one expected you to work for your topple, which is the only reason you mount a monster for to begin with. >changing the goalposts
481ff3 No.14295030
>>14295016
>being a hypocrite
>fail space
Kek. The original point is that one made you work for it to begin with while the other system doesn't because you can't be knocked off. The only one shifting the narrative here is you.
d55772 No.14295036
>>14294991
>came to pass
which one? the part about using grappling hook to run away from monster? the part about monster wont attack you in their nest? or did you not read the screencap?
4f3816 No.14295042
>>14294707
>no annoying pig in the base game
You stupid fuck. That waste of code was patched in.
5371d7 No.14295047
>>14294991
>To work for your topple
Nigger it was piss easy to mount and get things down. The only reason it was hard was when french hunters would hit the monster while you were mounted. Have you played 4U?
d55772 No.14295053
>>14295030
>the other system doesn't because you can't be knocked off
But you can be knocked off and smashed to the walls or trees if you don't change your mounting position.
4f3816 No.14295060
>>14295047
Why do the French even play games? I have yet to meet any French people in online games that are actually useful in a team.
a03d2f No.14295065
>>14294991
>It's ok that it takes no skill because the other one expected you to work for your topple,
You are retarded.
864379 No.14295068
>>14294991
>those "speculated" things came to pass
Not all of them, and not in the literal, exaggerated form those posts make them out to be.
>It's ok that it takes no skill because the other one expected you to work for your topple
The other one gave you a handy-dandy colored bar that told you when to attack and when to hold on. That bar doesn't exist in World. You have to actually observe the monster to know when it's safe to attack and when you need to hunker down. Also, since the monster can down slam you into pieces of the environment (which you can't lasso back from), you have to watch and make sure you move to a different part of it. Mounting in World literally demands more attention and more input than previous games.
>Suckstart a shotgun.
They're wrong because there's already a dozen posts detailing why they're wrong, which you conveniently ignored for the sake of your own post.
8d045a No.14295076
>>14295042
>Annoying pig
Good job anon, you just fucked your drop rate, now you'll never get what you want. The desire sensor and Poogie work together.
481ff3 No.14295092
>>14295053
see
>>14293824
>no you fucking don't, you get knocked off, you get a snazzy animation of lassoing back onto it and the only "struggle" is your stamina bar running out, which is not likely to happen unless you're a tard who doesn't regularly eat stamina items AKA a casualfag.
>>14295065
You're a Capcuck.
>>14295068
>They're wrong because there's already a dozen posts detailing why they're wrong, which you conveniently ignored for the sake of your own post.
Nah those shitheaps weren't rebuttels because you ignored the contents of the posts in question. Fanboys practice double think as well it seems, quit fucking projecting you queer. It's been shown before that you shills ignore the arguments made.
c9fe86 No.14295098
I came to this thread to see how people are enjoying the game, only to find a big steaming pile of shit.
I've just recently finished the main campaign of the story-line, a feat which took me over 100 hours, and left me very satisfied.
I honestly don't get the hate on this game, all of the above complaints are so nit-picky its laughable, and you should at least wait until they announce paid non-cosmetic DLC before you start shitting on them for paid non-cosmetic DLC, and even if they do happen to price further expansions, I think it will be rightfully justified. I wholeheartedly think I got my money's worth with the current load of content in the game.
Also, if you think this new iteration of Monster Hunter is too easy, fuck off. It's so obviously a better game than all previous, and I would bet my life everyone complaining about difficulty hasn't reached tempered elder dragons yet. The buildup of difficulty in the game is slow, but if anyone here actually played through the game fully I'm sure they'd find the difficulty level they desire.
928ba8 No.14295101
>>14293712
>Thinking about emulating the Wiii U one if it doesn't run like total garbage.
It doesn't emulate, and even if it did the WiiU port ran WORSE than the 3DS version. The whole affair was pretty embarrassing for the WiiU.
I think the only MH games that you can actually emulate fully are the PSP games. The one on the Wii also half-runs. None of the 3DS ones emulate.
864379 No.14295119
>>14295092
>no you fucking don't, you get knocked off, you get a snazzy animation of lassoing back onto it and the only "struggle" is your stamina bar running out, which is not likely to happen unless you're a tard who doesn't regularly eat stamina items AKA a casualfag.
This ignores two things: that stamina doesn't regenerate while on the monster, like it did in earlier games, and that you can't lasso back from all knock offs, which I already pointed out in the post of mine you replied to.
>Nah those shitheaps weren't rebuttels because you ignored the contents of the posts in question
If anyone ignored the content of those posts, you could point it out, and detail how they failed to rebuke them. Most of those posts went point by point, arguing why each point was wrong. If the rebuttals are wrong, you could also go point by point, detailing why. Put your money where your mouth is.
8d045a No.14295135
>>14295098
>and I would bet my life everyone complaining about difficulty hasn't reached tempered elder dragons yet.
Is this what people said about Hyper monsters in Generations too? At least hyper monsters looked different and behaved differently instead of just doing more damage.
a03d2f No.14295137
>>14295119
He is literally only here to start shit.
4f3816 No.14295165
>>14294790
>Thinks people that hate MHW have not played it.
Its actually the exact opposite.
503b6b No.14295171
>>14295165
Did you actually play it, or just touch the case? Did you make it to HR, or are you still a LR faggot?
4f3816 No.14295191
>>14295171
HR faggot here I'm up to the bit when old Gotenks shows up and the down' syndrome girl takes a spaz fit when she sees some shitty crystals.
4eb790 No.14295193
>>14295171
get your triple gay ass the fuck away from me, faggot³
d9fdbf No.14295210
>>14294195
Blood splatter tells you you're doing more damage. Damage numbers tell you you're doing more damage. What's the difference?
987187 No.14295216
<<14293414
I literally explained it in that very post. You're clearly just fishing for (You)s at this point.
>>14293420
>World didn't really change things around
See >>14292772
>>14293663
This isn't my first rodeo with a series getting fucked over for the sake of appealing to normalfags, so trust me, I feel you there.
>>14293857
This really captures the key problem with World I feel, and it's clear that that was the case from the first interview where they talked about how committing to actions was a key part of the strategy that made the series unappealing to foreigners, and that those foreigners were the target audience of World.
>>14294009
Yes, it's the second option on the menu that opens up there.
>>14295068
>You have to actually observe the monster to know when it's safe to attack and when you need to hunker down.
No you don't, you just have to notice that the screen's edges are glowing red just like the favored game of World's target audience
0335d1 No.14295221
>>14295210
Because one immerses you and the other reminds you that you're just playing an unpolished video gayme
503b6b No.14295228
>>14295221
>MUH IMMERSION
Hi Tumblr. Go back to Gone Homo.
b0f129 No.14295229
>>14294991
>Suckstart a shotgun.
You could have said "I have played the game, and I disagree.", but you didn't. Which leads me to believe that the other anon is right and you haven't actually played the game to assess the damage. Which isn't much, from what I have seen. I have my grievances but they are not, at all, the same as your's or the other anons'.
>>14294842
You might have typed it wrong or you need to update the game.
Or, yea, your connection as you said.
d9fdbf No.14295236
>>14295221
Monster Hunter is anything but immersive my dude. Everything is janky as fuck. And if you deny it you're a turbo faggot, because people in this thread have used the argument that the janky shit is a casual filter.
987187 No.14295246
>>14295210
Blood splatters require you to pay attention and git gud while damage numbers let you turn your brain off.
>>14295236
>janky
Like what?
e31da9 No.14295247
>val fagaak won't drop me any fucking fangs
i need them for two of my weapons and fight this cunt isn't very exciting, i was having more fun doing anja/rath investigations trying to get gems
4f3816 No.14295249
Gotta love the soyboy capcucks here that instead of arguing with the guy that has Monster Hunter World and fucking hates it (The dude that KNOWS how fucking casual it is and they can't bullshit ) They argue with the wise people that decided to avoid this trash and play the better older games.
356fb2 No.14295252
>>1429522
Immersion is good tho
b1df0a No.14295291
Just fought my first nergigante.
The game is getting so fun oh boy.
Next I'm taking down Beetle Juice and making a suit out of his skin.
Maybe odogaron because it makes me look thicc.
18cd17 No.14295327
>>14293857
Well I mean with this being a "gameplan" for the series from here, it's really telling how shit the future is gonna be
758e3f No.14295335
>>14295291
>>14295291
>Maybe odogaron because it makes me look thicc.
Please elaborate.
15d915 No.14295343
>>14293981
You indescribably stupid faggot. You're the reason why they've shat out this abomination of a game. Fucking absolute morons like you who sit there and gestate in your own filth while your dejected family members wipe a mop in your general direction to maybe curb the biting stench of your own failure and stupidity.
b0f129 No.14295352
>>14295249
>buzzwords for no real reason
>instead of arguing with the guy that has Monster Hunter World and hates it
You only have 5 posts in this thread, and have mentioned nothing about why the game is bad in any of those posts. If you had actually been lurking the threads, you would have noticed there's a clear difference in the kinds of people who argue about mhw. Group A being people who bitch about things in the game that they don't understand + people that haven't actually seen or played the game. And group B being people who have played the game and recognize that there are things wrong with the game but are having totally different conversations.
I really can't tell if this is bait anymore, and I don't know if I'm wasting my time in replying. They are getting better at this lads, watch out.
c65b99 No.14295362
so what's that bullshit I have to go through to play MHFU emulated online with my friends?
758e3f No.14295366
>>14295362
You mean setting up hamachi?
c65b99 No.14295372
>>14295366
what ever you have to do for PPSSPP
8d045a No.14295377
>>14295362
I used this and it worked fine with my friend, way better than putting your system on a DMZ, just port forward the ports you need.
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FAeZ83cX7HCiyNvRYGvlzYmOMVEXDxRMkQp5HM5YlG4/pub
c65b99 No.14295385
139734 No.14295421
>>14295246
So you deny the janky shit in the series? A series damn near defined by it? Turbo faggot confirmed.
a03d2f No.14295431
>>14292126
How do I join the squad?
987187 No.14295455
>>14295421
I neither confirm nor deny, because I have no idea what you're specifically referring to.
4f3816 No.14295482
>>14295352
>Its easy that is the first problem I have gotten to the final area without being carted once and I suck at games. I cant even beat SF2 on 4 stars I'm that bad at games. Casual as fuck.
>Default female hunter is a nigger.
>Second they made The Handler ugly to pander to SJW half nigger females that will never play the game. Well done Capcom.
>That half nigger down syndrome Handler keeps popping up at the side and repeating shit I already know when I am walking about the fucking village area.
>You cant play as the fucking elf looking fuckers.
>Sometimes the cuntflies point up with no way of going up.
>I hate those little I.S JuJu men that pop up and throw bombs at you when your trying to fucking hunt.
>Up their own ass faggots that play this game that call you a scrub even though you carried the team because your not using the exact same sword they are using. Great community.
>The bounties are crap like kill 20 of these things.
>Those annoying fucking steal the eggs quests.
>I cant play as that Cat Chef wtf Capcom. Faggots.
>Your starting a mission later on in the game and the damn flying lizards drop you in the wrong place.
>That fucking lizard with the flashy ears that can stun you even when your behind rocks. Capcom Logic.
>Old Gotenks turns up and suddenly claims your working for him. Fuck that guy.
>A lot of the HR monsters are just the LR monsters reused.
>There is a little jingle when you finish a quest but is Proof of a Hero even in this game and if so I must have missed it due to them butchering it. The music is fucking ebola.
>Most importantly they made this shit instead of Dragon's Dogma 2.
The only good thing about it is it looks good. Other than that the game is pretty bad.
cc264e No.14295512
>>14295455
What anon is trying to say is that the terrible controls and game design (aka the "jankiness") is what really makes Monster Hunter so good, and the reason why is because it wards off casuals from entering the franchise, even though a big part of why Monster Hunter is very popular in Japan is because of the online and ad-hoc multiplayer aspect and that you can play with anyone almost anywhere due to the prevalence of internet cafes in Japan and the portability of the PSP and 3DS, and if the games were as directed towards hardcore gamers as anon thinks it is, it wouldn't be as popular as it is now.
d55772 No.14295565
>>14295431
Join a session with the Squad leader >>14294654
and asked him to invite you in. Once in the squad, you dont need to post ID to party up.
e31da9 No.14295585
>>14295482
>You cant play as the fucking elf looking fuckers.
>>I cant play as that Cat Chef wtf Capcom. Faggots.
>>I cant play as that Cat Chef wtf Capcom. Faggots.
>>Your starting a mission later on in the game and the damn flying lizards drop you in the wrong place.
>>A lot of the HR monsters are just the LR monsters reused.
>>Those annoying fucking steal the eggs quests.
There are many valid criticisms to be made of world, but these don't apply, you just padded out your post to try to look smart, especially things like complaining about getting dropped off outside camp which was standard for HR for as long as i can remember. Same for egg quests, which there's a lot less of this time
987187 No.14295598
>>14295512
>terrible controls and game design (aka the "jankiness")
The only games that had terrible controls were the PS2 ones because stick attacking. None of the other games do. And what's bad about the game design?
481ff3 No.14295618
>>14295171
>but you need to play the whole game
>it gets fun at this point only
Die.
>>14295119
>This ignores two things: that stamina doesn't regenerate while on the monster, like it did in earlier games
Irrelevant.
>and that you can't lasso back from all knock offs, which I already pointed out in the post of mine you replied to
Doing it at all is retarded anon. It's just plain easier, sorry faggot.
>>14295137
You're only here apparently, to eat shit and to get others to eat shit.
>>14295229
>tone policing
Where do you think you are? Shills and casuals can go fuck themselves.
>>14295585
>r6 siege meme
Go back to Reddit.
4f3816 No.14295623
>>14295585
>Does not dislike the problems I dislike.
>Autism.
>Doesn't dispute Female nigger hunter is aids.
>Autism cancelled out.
Look its why I myself dislike MHW. I think its trash for all the reasons I posted and to me they are valid.
987187 No.14295636
>>14295119
>This ignores two things: that stamina doesn't regenerate while on the monster, like it did in earlier games, and that you can't lasso back from all knock offs, which I already pointed out in the post of mine you replied to.
Which in turn ignores that when you brace in World, you don't lose stamina, as opposed to in 4/X where it does, and even when bracing it still gets closer to knocking you off, just slower.
503b6b No.14295647
>>14295618
>Die
No thanks anon, I'll continue enjoying this great game. You continue hating fun.
e31da9 No.14295678
>>14295623
>considers not playing as a chef cat or getting dropped off outside camp in HR a problem see a fucking doctor
>>Doesn't dispute Female nigger hunter is aids.
because that doesn't affect gameplay and just fucking change it if you wanna make a waifu so badly, you're just trying to prove how much you hate niggers to fit in
481ff3 No.14295697
>>14295647
My idea of fun isn't supporting the downfall of another franchise. There are better games to play. Making you shits kvetch is also fun.
2ac425 No.14295708
>>14295618
Holy fuck anon calm down.
Why are you telling people to die over a fucking videogame? Holy shit.
>>14295697
>Making you shits kvetch is also fun.
No, you just look like an autist having a tantrum over a videogame on the internet.
Its kind of funny.
987187 No.14295733
>>14295708
>Why are you telling people to die over a fucking videogame? Holy shit.
Because people on /v/ love video games dearly, and the natural response of a human being towards a threat to the thing they love is a powerful burning hatred.
d55772 No.14295739
>>14295618
>This level of mad at other peoples that enjoy video games
503b6b No.14295740
>>14295697
>Supporting the downfall of another franchise
Weird then how this game sold amazingly well, even with FighterZ releasing the same day. You gonna start a hashtag? #notmymonhun?
987187 No.14295749
b0f129 No.14295754
<>14295618
>tone policing
What? Is this geniune bait or are you just fucking retarded?
I'm not even going to give you the reply you seem to be fishing for so much. Go shit up another thread, faggot.
>>14295482
>I've never played MH, the post
Oh okay. Such enlighted opinions could never be refuted so I'm just going to conceede everything to you anon.
Just kidding, you're just retarded. Go back
>>14295565
Don't spoonfeed those kinds of questions.
d55772 No.14295763
>>14295740
Even in Japan where the "true" MH fan are from, MHW topped the sales chart for the second week beating FighterZ that was delayed to avoid competing with MHW.
1b4f0c No.14295770
I like the new female armour, too bad playing as a girl is for fags.
3a1dc7 No.14295777
>>14295763
because its a good game
4f3816 No.14295788
>>14295754
Follow the ID idiot. Own it. Hate it.
d55772 No.14295791
>>14295754
The Squad thing is super retarded though, you can only send invite if you're on the same session, Peoples think its like a normal guild but the way you join are confusing.
2ac425 No.14295794
>>14295733
The last time I ever got that mad over videogames is when I found out how MGSV got cut to a fraction of what it was supposed to be, making us play an unfinished, rushed, but also still a good game.
Which is the same thing I feel that happnened with MHW.
They should have delayed it for a year before releasing it so they could have touched up on the lack of monsters, lack of weapon designs, stuff that should have been in the game on launch, and the lack of the ability to turn off scoutflies.
I should be mad at the game but I had too much fun with it to feel that way. I only get mad at the faggy publishers for doing whatever dumb bullshit they do to my vidya games. I feel same with mgsv I still feel critical of it and I definelty think that its not even a great game but only a good one and at this rate It will never even reach 4u tier.
d55772 No.14295808
>>14295749
>This is all conjecture
Stop reading right there
481ff3 No.14295822
>>14295739
>(29)
>shilling this hard
>>14295708
wheredoyouthinkyouare.jpg
>>14295740
>>14295763
>>14295777
Holy shit I love Battlefield 1 and Call of Duty now. Clearly more dumb niggers throwing money at the wall is a sign that I am wrong.
1b4f0c No.14295828
14295822
The argument wasn't if the game was good or not, but if it was the downfall of the franchise. You're so retarded you're not even worth a (You)
4f3816 No.14295832
>>14295678
No I hate niggers not because I'm some white nazi fucker trying to fit in. Most of the fuckers here will tell me to "fuck off you dune coon" or some shit. I hate niggers because I was born in Egypt and I am sick of those sub Saharan fuckers trying to hijack my country of origin's history. My hatred for them goes beyond skin color.
e31da9 No.14295837
>>14295832
wow that's great but no one gives a shit because it doesn't pertain to this game. Not even niggers like niggers but it has NOTHING to do with gameplay changes made in MHW from previous titles
d55772 No.14295838
>>14295822
Except those are Japanese sales chart, your "pandering to western" excuse doesn't apply here, fag. How's that cognitive dissonance going for you?
481ff3 No.14295840
>>14295828
What do you think I meant by downfall you fucking idiot? I called several Capcom IPs zombies earlier in this very thread. It's basically a dead series to anyone with taste, milked for money using braindead casuals like you.
2ac425 No.14295845
>>14295832
>My hatred for them goes beyond skin color.
Words of wisdom, anon.
481ff3 No.14295852
>>14295838
>(31)
>deliberatelt misconstruing my words
Kike shill leave. It was smacking down the claim that sales matter at all when it comes to quality, I never made any pandering to western claims just casuals.
4f3816 No.14295853
>>14295837
(you) fags brought up the hate niggers to fit in meme. That your bad not mine. MHW is still shit BTW.
e31da9 No.14295864
>>14295853
>(you) fags brought up the hate niggers to fit in meme.
because you listed a default character model being a nigger as a problem as if you can't just change it
d55772 No.14295884
>>14295852
>>14295852
So the true MH fan are casual now? I wonder what excuse you're gonna make next to push your logic.
4f3816 No.14295885
>>14295864
But Anon I had to look at it in the first place.
b0f129 No.14295891
>>14295788
>reading comprehension
I know which anon I am replying to, idiot. I said MH, not MHW.
You wouldn't have spewed half of that incomprehensible garbage if you had played at least one other game.
Here are some examples of geniune complaints about the game, had you payed attention to what you are playing, or actually care about the discussion:
>You can access Itembox/change equipment in camp
>Gathering hall hub is now obsolete
>Weapons look like templated shit (pic related from yesterday's discussion)
>>14295791
You're right of course, but that's what my copy pasta is for.
>For those who still need an invite: just type in the ID in "join online session" | "search via ID"
They just have to do this and then talk in chat/wait till I get back.
Maybe we could add another instruction to wait untill the squad leader is available.
18cd17 No.14295894
>>14295884
>only japs are TRUE monster hunter fans
>Japs are also horrible at video games on a consistent basis and will eat up any shit because it's part of a series and they have obscene brand loyalty
>see SF5 selling at all
3a1dc7 No.14295904
>>14295822
>everything I've never played it bad
don't worry, you'll be able to play mhw soon. I think its coming out in the fall for the mustards.
4f3816 No.14295909
>>14295891
I wont deny I am a complete fucking moron with the attention span of a goldfish on meth. I am the physical embodiment of fucking casual yet I can handle MHW no problem. This game appealed directly to me and as I have proved I went out and bought it. I have hardly touched MH as a series before. Just happens this casual hates MHW.
You kinda just proved the MHW haters point by pointing that out. Well done dipshit.
d55772 No.14295920
>>14295894
>see SF5
>worst selling SF series
Okay, what's your point?
481ff3 No.14295934
>>14295884
Gee I wonder how this kike is going to put words in my mouth next. Clearly this game pandering to casuals instead of the existing player base is the issue.
>>14295904
I tolerated playing the games on my fucking 3DS and you think this is a matter of platform war shit?
d28fe2 No.14295941
>>14292107
just downloaded the MH portable 3rd from the op, gonna start playing it in a bit after i read the wikia a bit more. haven't played any MH games before but it looks really fun.
any tips/advice that i wouldn't find in the wikia and basic tutorials that i should know?
987187 No.14295947
>>14295941
Experiment with different weapons, try out different items, observe the monsters and learn their behaviors, and have fun
d55772 No.14295957
>>14295934
>Clearly this game pandering to casuals instead of the existing player base is the issue.
casual dont buy video game in japan, they play mobile shit.
cc264e No.14295987
>>14295934
>this image is what purists really believe
b1df0a No.14296003
f41b1d No.14296033
Regardless of whether you like MHW or not with how popular the new game is in the west this is probably the last game that will even vaguely resemble Monster Hunter.
b0f129 No.14296036
>>14295909
Where are you getting this idea that MH was ever a really hard? (Aside from unconventional controls on ps2.)
Also,
>I've never carted once all through LR and up to elder's crossing
>I'm also a casual
I doubt this very much. Sorry.
I can ceede that MHW has been made a bit more casual, that is not something people here have disagreed with. (if you haven't noticed)
The problem is that shitposters like you seem to insist that it's franchise-ending, and anything to the contrary is shilling kikery, etc, etc.
987187 No.14296045
>>14296033
This is pretty much why there's as much negativity about World as there is - it's a death knell for the franchise, since it almost guarantees we won't see any more Monster Hunter games, just World games.
4eb790 No.14296062
>>14293952
>this nigga doesn't carry one of each shock and pitfall traps, along with trap tools and thunderbugs to craft more if he needs more
look at this HR2 faggot and laugh
1e8d65 No.14296065
>>14293962
Gotta admit joining and watching people try and brute force Pink Rathian in MHW was fun.
>Muh GS bounced? Better hit it again *eats shit and carts*
>Hows is that lancer hitting without bouncing?
>*GS and LS continues to hit hard section of tail and body*
>im Lancing sticking to head, legs and tail when possible.
>Nubs with LS continue to bounce all over the place.
>Host eats the 2nd backflip due to rage mode Queen.
>Somehow fucking carts with her nowhere near him (probably scrolling for antidotes and not looking at the HP bar)
>LS kirito fag attempts to mount and eats all 3 charges and the 2nd backflip.
>Fission mailed.
I'd be lying if i said it wasn't fun to watch as it all came crashing down.
Capcom should of put Gypceros in just to fuck with the new players. The Pukei-Pukei is a budget Chammy where as the rubber chicken plays mind games that result in carts and lulz.
(Fuck 140 Chammy right off, i'd rather do 140 Shagaru Magoo)
04ed01 No.14296069
>>14295957
Japs were going to buy the game regardless. The game is broken as fuck to cater to people who don't want to put any effort in playing. Bows do more dps doing quick shots in repetition that give you free charged shots than actually charging the bow for a aimed shot. GS also has a similar issue. No smug anime girl will make this game any less casual.
481ff3 No.14296108
>>14295987
>purist
Next you'll whine about muh elitism. How much fucking evidence does one need for normalfags destroying niche hobbies?
>>14296036
>people would shill agains the high sales of a game released by one of the most kiked japanese companies
I don't think we'll have enough gas for people like you.
ff1493 No.14296115
>>14296069
You do realize monster Hunter weapons have always been imbalanced? Granted that's not a thing but hey, you have more options with each weapon than ever before now
ff1493 No.14296117
>>14296115
*not a good thing
cc264e No.14296123
>>14296108
You can still play the older Monhun games, they're not ruined and are still in the state they were when Monhun was "niche" as you claim it was, you hysterical faggot.
d55772 No.14296124
>>14296069
>MH fan were going to buy the game regardless
ftfy
3396ba No.14296140
>>14296033
>>14296045
World is a Monster Hunter game, regardless of what your personal feels may be.
>>14296108
>niche hobbies
>raughing nips.jpg
d55772 No.14296152
>>14296108
>normalfags destroying niche hobbies?
>best selling franchise in japan
>niche series
I don't think you know what niche means
c51afa No.14296154
Should I buy world for xbox? Honest question.
987187 No.14296168
<<14296124
But that's demonstrably false, considering the majority of fans have skipped it, and most of it's sales are to normalfags who can't into MonHun
>>14296140
>World is a Monster Hunter game, regardless of what your personal feels may be.
In the sense that it has "Monster Hunter" in the title and was made with the intent of being the new main series title? Absolutely. Now go tell Breath of Fire fans that Dragon Quarter or 6 are BoF games, or a Classicvania fan that SotN is Castlevania, a Persona fan that 3 onwards is Persona, a Fallout fan that Fallout 3 is Fallout, a DMC fan that DmC is Devil May Cry, etc.
cc264e No.14296176
>>14296154
>the majority of fans have skipped it, and most of it's sales are to normalfags
[citation needed]
c51afa No.14296179
987187 No.14296182
>>14296154
If you're going to get World at all wait for the G rerelease.
>>14296179
The shills are in such a scramble to shitpost and attack anything that doesn't fit their narrative that they don't even check that they're quoting the right target, hardly surprising.
481ff3 No.14296186
>>14296123
Not an argument.
>>14296140
>>14296152
Are you implying that the normalfags this game attracts wont contribute to the decay with each future release? Have you learned nothing?
c51afa No.14296196
>>14296182
The only MH I played was the one for the Wii. I liked it a lot. I was actually pretty good at that one, I used the lance/shield and 2h longsword when needed. Just would like to know what you guys think about World and what the xbox version is like and if it's a shitty port.
d55772 No.14296197
>>14296168
>Fallout 3
>Persona 3
>SotN
>DmC
>Breath of Fire
None of those were develop by the original creator of the series
3396ba No.14296213
>>14296186
>Are you implying that the normalfags this game attracts wont contribute to the decay with each future release? Have you learned nothing?
I said nothing either way about normalfags, don't put words in my mouth. I just called you a retard for saying the series is niche.
987187 No.14296223
>>14296196
>Just would like to know what you guys think about World
Generally the opinion is pretty negative. If you want a neutral list of the kinds of changes it has, check >>14292772
>and what the xbox version is like and if it's a shitty port.
I don't think anyone has the Xbox version. There's no reason for it to be a bad port considering both the PS4 and Xbone run on x86 architecture, but I doubt anyone could tell you from experience here.
<<14296197
Neither was World. For sure, Tsujimoto's been involved with the series for a long time, but the original producers left Capcom over a decade ago.
76cf0a No.14296231
After 9:30 central nip anon will be sent to bed and we can actually discuss the game. Filter all nip anon posts.
481ff3 No.14296237
>>14296196
>MonHun Tri
>interested in World
No wonder.
>>14296197
I can think of quite a few games still made by the same developers that are shit.
>(37)
Wew, and they don't stop coming.
>>14296213
It is niche outside of Japan. And it already is a particular kind of game that appeals to a certain segment of the population. Expanding for greater appeal will still damage the games. Always missing the main point.
2ac425 No.14296239
>>14296196
World is a good MH game, not a damn great one like 4u though. World is still an incredibly fun game to play and I already have over 120 hours in it.
Compared to tri world pretty much has twice the amount of content on all sides and you will most likely like it very much.
DONT GET IT ON XBONE. Get it for ps4 or wait for the PC release where you get extra content and dont have to play for the online.
The only reason to get it on xbone is if your friends have it on there and want to play it togehter with you, if thats the case then you should get it for xbone
cc264e No.14296242
>>14296237
>It is niche outside of Japan. And it already is a particular kind of game that appeals to a certain segment of the population.
>changing the goalposts, not once but twice in the same post
c51afa No.14296245
>>14296239
I would be getting it for my roommate for his birthday as a sort of present to myself kek. I don't have any consoles, and I am a linux gamer so I'm hardly a casual. I just don't play many games anymore. LINUX HAS NOGAEMS
d55772 No.14296246
>>14296186
>Are you implying that the normalfags this game attracts wont contribute to the decay with each future release?
No, I'm saying MH isn't a niche series to begin with. They have MH attraction and competition in japan, everybody and their grandma knows about it.
18cd17 No.14296248
>>14296196
Don't get it period until the G-rank version drops unless you have a dumbass friend who'll buy it for you or something unless you really want to re-buy the game in a year.
Aside from that you shouldn't buy it because it introduces paid DLC and other negative elements.
Port should be fine though unless capcom is retarded, but just be warned even the ps4 version has framedrops and performance issues
76cf0a No.14296258
>>14296246
This guy complains about MonHun becoming an esport when it has been an esport since Tri. Since the arena was added Monster Hunter has been literal soeedrunner bait and speedrunning breeds competition.
I would much rather live in a timeline where I can watch Monster Hunter instead of Call if Duty on ESPN. Fuck that guy.
76cf0a No.14296262
I run the game on my ps4pro and I never noticed a single dropped frame.
481ff3 No.14296268
>>14296242
People who never enjoyed Monster Hunter before aren't going to help now. This isn't a changing goal post it was the original message.
>he thinks something isn't a niche because it's popular in another country
>>14296246
>>14296246
noun
1.
a shallow recess, especially one in a wall to display a statue or other ornament.
synonyms: recess, alcove, nook, cranny, hollow, bay, cavity, cubbyhole, pigeonhole
"a niche in the wall"
2.
a comfortable or suitable position in life or employment.
"he is now a partner at a leading law firm and feels he has found his niche"
synonyms: ideal position, place, function, vocation, calling, métier, job
"he found his niche in life"
adjective
1.
denoting or relating to products, services, or interests that appeal to a small, specialized section of the population.
"other companies in this space had to adapt to being niche players"
verb
1.
place or position (something) in a niche.
There is nothing that does what Monster Hunter does like Monster Hunter does. Not even it's so called clones. Broadening for appeal to a wider audience will kill this niche, mark my words.
>>14296258
>watching esports at all
>watching (((ESPN)))
>>14296262
>owning ps4pro
This thread basically confirms that only casuals like this garbage.
c51afa No.14296280
>>14296248
>G rank version
Think it'll last that long or will it be a GOTY edition that will come out and have zero people playing it?
76cf0a No.14296283
>>14296268
I am also going to buy the game again when it comes out for PC
Full Price.
18cd17 No.14296292
>>14296280
4U is still pretty populated and that's region locked. I wouldn't see any reason world which is more popular wouldn't see at least a partial carry-over. Even if I do think it's a horrible game
1e8d65 No.14296297
>>14296262
Does the XBone have issues running it?
76cf0a No.14296305
>>14296297
I don't know butbyou should definitely sell that thing and buy a ps4 or get some parts for a PC.
b0f129 No.14296311
>>14296045
I think it's possible, but not so likely that we should shit on mhw for things it did not do. We should always hold Capcom responsible for ruining MH in future titles, not MHW for being successfull with a good chunk of normalfags for once.
>>14296108
>I don't think we'll have enough gas for people like you.
And I don't think I have enough replies for people who can't into reading comp like you.
Just because it's Capkike, doesn't mean they're going to run a franchise to the ground when it's doing well in its formula. (with the exception of item box access in camps)
7ad196 No.14296324
How successful is it? Is it Skyrim level? Or are people just mad because of redditors and YouTubers?
987187 No.14296326
>>14296311
>I think it's possible, but not so likely that we should shit on mhw for things it did not do. We should always hold Capcom responsible for ruining MH in future titles, not MHW for being successfull with a good chunk of normalfags for once.
You're right in that we can't speak in certainties about the damage World will do to Monster Hunter until after the fact. That said, this same song and dance has happened to so many of us with so many different series that it would be foolish not to be at the very least cautious. As the saying goes, "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me."
481ff3 No.14296336
>>14296283
>spite buying
Yes I know you're a manchild.
>>14296311
>Just because it's Capkike, doesn't mean they're going to run a franchise to the ground
Never assume such a thing, who is a fucking optimist when it comes to Crapcom?
>when it's doing well in its formula
So obviously it's time to deviate from that formula in awful ways. Knowing Capcom…
76cf0a No.14296339
>>14296324
It sold more copies in the west than just about every other release combined.
Most people fail to understand that consoles are the market here not handhelds. America especially where the majority of our population isn't packed into hive cities like Tokyo. It's selling because it's on consoles and they actually bothered to advertise it. They could have done the same thing with 4u and saw similar success.
1e8d65 No.14296342
>>14296292
>Got a XBone for free.
>No exclusives i want and Halo is dead.
>Got a MHW Rath PS4 sitting on top of it.
Xbone has no exclusive games that would of made me purchase it in the first place.
1e8d65 No.14296349
8053fc No.14296351
>>14293962
>this perfectly describes my first encounter with rathian in FU
I really fucking hate both raths' charges in that game, the fuckers just turn and bolt, the same turn they use for re-positioning to do any other skill
I have seen the precharge leg stomp animation ONCE,
>>14295770
What is that double claw's armor set?
76cf0a No.14296357
>>14296336
I am buying the game on PC because two of my friends who I play 3ds MonHun don't have playstations and I got MHW from my gf for Christmas and I really like the game.
441426 No.14296358
>>14293785
>Drinking potions slows you down to crawl and can easily be interrupted
>The time it takes to fully chug…
You can sprint while drinking and the games before this one rooted you in place. Healing has been completely casualized. Stop fucking defending this garbage.
I'll give you the canopy locking in 4U but not every map had canopy or an equivalent now did it? Every fucking map in MHW has casual shit all over the place for monsters to fall into.
>Skills are still gradated, meaning one point in Attack Up or Health up, for instance, only gives you 3 more attack or 15 more health, while stacking ranks will net the high result.
Okay it still casualizes the skills. It means you still get a benefit even for lower effort.
>you just don't need to use Athena's Autism planner to figure out how to scrounge together 2 more skill points to get the skill you want.
>he can't add
>There are gunner variants of armor that specifically give some gunner skills once you hit high rank. Otherwise, it's just more options to mix and match instead of forcing you to put in double the effort just to build a completely separate set of armor for the few times you feel like gunning. Gunners can wear the high defense armor meant for lancers, but sacrifice all the skills they need, or they can wear the lower defense gunner set and have the skills they need. Sure is broken now! MonHun is DEAD.
Sure is casualized now!
>Monsters always spawned in the same areas
Okay.
>ran to the same nests
Okay sure.
>and limped to the same zones to eat and drink when tired.
Wrong. Some species would go to multiple areas to eat/drink.
>The scoutflies do make it easy as fuck, but it's no different than having a paintball, which was just a wasted inventory slot or a boring armor skill to invest in.
Paintballs didn't fucking clutter your screen with useless information
>bitching about an inventory slot
It's almost like the game required a minimum toolset to be effective.
>Not like you wouldn't learn exactly where the monster would be after a couple hunts, because the earlier games were predictable as fuck
Instead you just follow a monster indefinitely now while it runs to sleep. So much fucking better.
>you have to go out of your way to find and unlock them, you can't go back to them in the middle of a fight without using a farcaster. Yet again, the maps are much bigger. It is easy to abuse, but what kind of faggot do you have to be to keep running back to camp to stock up on mega potions anyways?
>what kind of faggot do you have to be to keep running back to camp to stock up on mega potions anyways?
So this is too casual for you but the other shit isn't? Give me a fucking break.
>Yeah, this is a little overplayed, but it's better that monsters will actually hurt and damage each other, instead of just pinning you between two flailing hitboxes from entities that may as well not even be on the same plane of existence.
git gud
76cf0a No.14296368
>Was told crafting was super casual and it takes at most 2-3 hunts to craft a full set.
>Finally get a Nergigante Gem after 42 hunts.
b0f129 No.14296369
>>14296326
>That said, this same song and dance has happened to so many of us with so many different series that it would be foolish not to be at the very least cautious.
Nice job anon. I agree.
>>14296324
Both
I don't like that the Destiny cuckholds are coming over.
441426 No.14296372
>>14293788
>Mounting does 1 damage per hit until you build up enough mystery meter to do one big attack. Mounting was way more broken in MH4U.
>Mounting was way more broken in MH4U.
Mounting was actually garbage in 4U and anyone worth a damn ignored it because it was a massive DPS loss for the time invested into it. Are you French by chance?
>You greatly overstate the effectiveness and utility of mantles. You get one of them at a time and it doesn't even last that long. Most will wear off in the time it takes you to run after a monster when it leaves zone.
>90 seconds of 45-60 skillpoints with rocksteady
>greatly overstated utility
Nigger it's gamebreakingly strong.
>talk about the game as it actually is and stop deifying the clunky mechanics
Oh so you're one of those people that couldn't fucking git gud. Do you write for IGN?
481ff3 No.14296381
>>14296357
I'm glad I have friends with good taste AND the same platforms as me.
da5afa No.14296388
>>14296351
from the best doggo in the mh series, odogorn
04ed01 No.14296404
>>14296115
My post had nothing to do with Weapon Balance and everything about combos being changed to lower the skill ceiling. I only used Bow and GS as examples.
>>14296124
You do realize they need to sell it to more than the Japanese fanbase. That is the whole point of this game. They've discussed it publicly, and it's very obvious why if you've actually paid attention to Capcom. For the past two years they have completely flopped with the games they generally get a boom from western sales. Japan's sales will hardly cover marketing costs.
>inb4 muh Japanese Casuals
Japanese still play games they cannot complete, and also generally are more group effort oriented. While western casuals seem to care more about watching a movie than playing a game, and if the gameplay holds them back it's a problem.
3396ba No.14296408
>>14296358
>You can sprint while drinking
No you can't. Holding R1 puts you at regular, non-running speed. Without R1 you move at greatsword speed.
>the games before this one rooted you in place
The games before also applied heals instantly. Healing takes much longer in World and can be interrupted by getting hit or rolling.
>MHW has casual shit all over the place
No it doesn't. Most areas don't have an environmental trap.
>Sure is casualized now!
How? Blademasters still get decreased elemental resistance and gunners still have lower defense, you're just not grinding for two sets now although to be honest I preferred the old system, I liked having two sets of armor with distinct looks and skills
e31da9 No.14296435
>>14296408
>Most areas don't have an environmental trap.
you can unlock more environmental traps though by finding the cats out in expeditions. I'm mostly on the fence how I feel about some of them. When the little shaka negroes start showing up in the HR forrest (area roughly below the rath nest) they willl not only poison but sleep bomb any monsters entering that area, where there is at least 1 flashfly floating around and a wedge beetle. A monster can get completely locked to death in there depending on your own build it's a bit much. At the same time it's fun making a dumbass monster charge you and knock down a vinetrap tree
ada194 No.14296438
>>14295770
Eyy if I'm going to be running around a lot and staring straight up and ass when I crawl I might as well have something enticing to look at.
f41b1d No.14296446
>>14296408
Yeah the moving while drinking potions thing is actually balanced since it can be interrupted and cost you a potion. The only severe casualization thing is being able to at any time go back to camp and restock on items. There used to be a hard limit of 20 potions per hunt now you have infinite. Most of the environmental free shit is limited to the first area or so it really doesn't affect the game that much. Rocksteady is pretty fucking broken but I think it's an endgame unlock. I've beaten everything but the tempered shit and I still don't have the thing.
>>14296435
The shaka cats also can paralyze and attack you though.
e31da9 No.14296448
>>14296438
I almost wish i could change my character fully, gender included on the fly, just to see the different armors. Male odagaron armor is fucking dope though
ada194 No.14296450
>>14296435
The nigger cats have knocked me out more times than they've helped. Carted twice because I go to roll away to heal only to be sniped by a sleep knife.
8053fc No.14296452
>>14296372
>Mounting was actually garbage in 4U and anyone worth a damn ignored it because it was a massive DPS loss for the time invested into it.
is it?
I'm new to MH and used to break backs & heads/tails
>>14296388
from what i've seen here i'd have to agree with you
but im still havent seen all that 4u has to offer
441426 No.14296463
>>14296408
There is potion slow walk and potion "sprinting" stop fucking playing semantics. There is a spring for potions. Of course it's not full spring speed but you shouldn't be able to fucking move while drinking, Period.
>The games before also applied heals instantly. Healing takes much longer in World and can be interrupted by getting hit or rolling.
It doesn't matter because you're fucking mobile while drinking.
>No it doesn't. Most areas don't have an environmental trap.
Have you even played the game? There is shit for monsters to get stuck on/trapped in every map.
>>14296452
>is it?
The damage from a knockdown doesn't scale. If you're using G rank gear and weapons it's just a huge waste of time. The amount of damage you did while it was knocked down could have happened while it was running around normally.
441426 No.14296464
e31da9 No.14296466
>>14296446
>The shaka cats also can paralyze and attack you though.
I know, but in the forrest i've never seen them attack me and they locked a rath into a horrendous beatdown
I HATE the fucking spearchuckers in the coral highlands because me and some buddies were doing a 1fail investigation for quick lagia gear and after beating the lagia until it had brain damage, we got hit with sleep darts as it retreated and they killed us with bombs
f41b1d No.14296468
>>14296452
In 4U you had to stop attacking the monster while someone was mounted because if you made it flinch it would cancel the mount. In multiplayer not attacking the monster during this time negated the extra damage from the down time from a successful mount. I'm not sure if that was a bug or designed that way though anybody know?
3396ba No.14296475
>>14296463
It's not playing semantics. Just saying 'sprint' on its own implies you can do a full-speed run while drinking a potion, which you can't. Sprint isn't a good word because you're not sprinting, you're moving at the standard speed.
>It doesn't matter because you're fucking mobile while drinking.
And? Because drinking in World takes much longer and still reduces your speed, you're just as likely to get hit as in the old games.
>Have you even played the game? There is shit for monsters to get stuck on/trapped in every map.
By area I meant zone, the numbered areas on each map. There's environmental traps on every map, yes, but they aren't all over the place.
cc264e No.14296477
>>14296463
>>14296464
>backpedaling this hard
>when instant heal despite being forced to stand still is a much faster heal than a heal-over-time
It's obvious you were talking about "sprinting" while healing because you thought you hunters moved at full speed while healing, almost as if you don't really know what you're talking about.
441426 No.14296479
>>14296477
>hold r1
>move faster
again, stop playing fucking semantics you cockgobbler you knew exactly what I meant
cc264e No.14296486
>>14296479
I know what you're talking about, and I think you're just talking out of your ass at this point
441426 No.14296490
>>14296486
again
>hold r1
>move faster while drinking
keep trying to deny how you feel about wasting $60 and another $60 for the privilege to play online
987187 No.14296495
>>14296490
Stop feeding the shitposters (you)s, just report and ignore.
da5afa No.14296505
>>14296490
the speed at which you "sprint" while drinking any potion is super slow still. your argument that you can move while drinking is still not valid since if you drink at the wrong time it could still be just as bad as if you were drinkin while standing still like in the old games, not only that but mhw you lose the damn potion if you get hit. its okay to admit you are wrong anon, or that you dont like it but putting your hands over your ears and screech like a retard wont make your argument valid
76cf0a No.14296523
>>14296490
>1 Cart Tempered Pink Rathian investigation
>Go for a sippy
>Pink Rathian lovetaps me with her knee
>Potion wasted
>Roars
>360 pop-shove-it in my face.
>Carted.
S O C A S U A L
441426 No.14296524
>>14296505
Not an argument because you can evade cancel out of the animation. Even if the walk and "potion sprint" are slower than normal you're still fucking moving which is miles better than being rooted in place. It makes it easier. Which is a casualization.
>lose the potion if you get hit
But it's much much easier to heal now. Big fucking deal.
987187 No.14296526
>>14296505
>the speed at which you "sprint" while drinking any potion is super slow still.
Demonstrably false.
441426 No.14296532
>>14296523
>drinking right on top of monsters
This is how I know you're new to the series.
>Roars
>dies
>not having earplugs for raths that can 1 shot
yeah you're fucking retarded, it checks out
e5eff7 No.14296552
>>14296523
>>go for a sippy
>>pink rathian lovetaps me with her knee
>not being able to drink while the monster is mid animation
>not being able to game the AI and the animation times to the point where you can sharpen right next to a monster
>being so shitter that you're sipping close to a monster when you're at low health and they're rearing up for attack
git fucking gud m8, this game is easy as fuck
f41b1d No.14296559
>>14296532
>not knowing a monster well enough to drink directly next to him
>earplugs instead of guarding or rolling through roars
441426 No.14296563
>>14296559
Just use a rocksteady. All of your problems are solved.
e5eff7 No.14296569
76cf0a No.14296592
>>14296552
Implying I was anywhere near it. The monsters move too anon.
e5eff7 No.14296613
>>14296592
>HE CAN'T GET OUT OF THE MONSTER'S RANGE TO SIPPY
HAH
WAAW
d55772 No.14296627
>>14296526
>post webm that clearly show running while drinking are slower than normal running speed
Okay, are you going somewhere with this?
e763b6 No.14296636
>>14292154
Popcorn and snakes I imagine.
cc264e No.14296694
>>14296627
But anon, you can HEAL WHILE MOVING despitethat healing is a lot riskier and slower compared to old Monhun's instant heal and faster animation
04ed01 No.14296722
>>14296694
>riskier and slower
It's hardly slower, and is the opposite of risky. You can dodge out of it while still retaining what you've healed which is better than getting fucking hit and losing more health than what a full potion gives you. It's made to be more forgiving. Generally you can get most out of the drink before you'd need to dodge unless you're an idiot.
1a2d9b No.14296735
>>14296563
>just use rocksteady
>just use the item you unlock after killing three tempered elder dragons
>just use the item you unlock after ~60+ hours and you've dominated everything else in the game
c51afa No.14296746
>>14296694
I would just imagine the monsters were a little quicker to compensate for the move heal thing
e31da9 No.14296747
>>14296735
i was wondering when i would get that, i remembered it being in the beta. I unlocked the quests for teo and kusha but i'm stuck into farming val to finish some of my weapon trees
0f366f No.14296776
Oh shit, MHW threa-
>90% of the thread is endless bickering with a single autist who hates the game and can't just fuck off
Glad I can't discuss anything anywhere. All we need is wojak spam and we'll be just like 4chan gain.
1a2d9b No.14296782
>>14296776
MHW is a literal holocaust on the MH series, can't you see that?
b0f129 No.14296814
>>14296627
>>14296694
The healing in MHW ought to be slower, whether in healing rate, or moving speed. Either way, it should be slower.
REMINDER TO UPDATE THE GAME
Patch is out and it fixes slicing ammo. Small victory but pretty good.
Here are the patch notes:
Version 1.05 (PS4) / 1.0.0.10 (Xbox One)
>Squads (PlayStation 4)
<Fixed an issue where the error message "Failed to retrieve squad information. Please wait and try again." would appear and squad features would not be usable. However, as a result of this fix, players who were affected by this bug will have all of their squad data reset. Additionally, players in squads whose squad leaders have their data reset will also see any affiliated data disappear the next time they log in. We apologize sincerely for the inconvenience, and ask that you reform squads or reinvite players whose data are lost.
<Fixed an issue where, rarely, uninvited non-squad members could join a Squad Online Session, or squad members could not join one of their own. Squad Online Sessions can still be joined by players outside of the squad via friend invite or Online Session ID search.
>5 Million Celebration Item Pack
<Fixed an issue where some players could not claim the item pack "5 Million Celebration Item Pack". The availability for this item pack has been extended to February 22, 23:59 (UTC).
>Decorations
<Fixed an issue where, under certain conditions, decorations would be lost.
<Fixed an issue that occurred when selecting items with the "Sell Items" option (from the item box inside base camp tents) by hiding the decorations tab.
>General Light Bowgun and Heavy Bowgun ammo changes
<Increased the power of Normal Ammo (1, 2, 3), Pierce Ammo (1, 2, 3), and all elemental ammo (except Dragon Ammo).
<Decreased the power of Slicing Ammo, and reduced the effect it has when hitting other players.
<Reduced the maximum number of Slashberries you can hold in your item pouch from 60 to 30. Players can still use any remaining extra Slashberries if they currently have more than 30 in their item pouch.
>Elderseal
<Readjusted the Elderseal calculation for dragon pods.
>Endemic Life
<Fixed an issue where information on endemic life would disappear from the Wildlife Map when moving about the field.
>Quests
<Fixed an issue where the assignment "Flying Sparks: Tobi-Kadachi" would not appear on the quest board after departing on a different quest in the middle of speaking with the Chief Botanist just before the quest is first assigned.
<Fixed a rare bug that would cause players to lose control of their characters when completing a quest with certain start menu sub-menus open.
Also, the maintenance was supposed to be over 2:45 hours ago. Anyone online at all?
04ed01 No.14296840
>>14296776
>single autist
Stop projecting anon.
3396ba No.14296850
>>14296814
<Increased the power of Normal Ammo (1, 2, 3), Pierce Ammo (1, 2, 3), and all elemental ammo (except Dragon Ammo).
<Decreased the power of Slicing Ammo, and reduced the effect it has when hitting other players.
Good to see Capcom is actually fixing shit. Now they just need to make it so you can't restock on items during quests.
76cf0a No.14296854
>>14296735
You have to kill a mother fucking tempered Kirin. A monster that can kill you in one hit with the best armor in the entire game.
1a2d9b No.14296857
>>14296854
just you can just use vitality mantle and maybe survive the hit once every 6 minutes
f41b1d No.14296859
Can somebody explain what elderseal does and how it works. I fought Kirin, Kushala, and Teostra with Nergigante's weapons and I don't know what it did.
cc264e No.14296866
>>14296859
It weakens or stops their gimmicks
1a2d9b No.14296870
>>14296859
elder dragons occasionally power up, elderseal knocks them out of it after you hit them enough times
for nerg, that would be when his spikes turn black
for kushala, that would be when he surrounds himself with wind
and so on
76cf0a No.14296873
>>14296859
It chills them out for a little bit. For example without it HR Kirin will stay super saiyan for far longer. You can also use dragon pods to inflict elderseal.
879d8c No.14296880
>>14296854
>getting hit by Kirin
I'm terrible at monster hunter and even I had no problems with tempered Kirin.
e31da9 No.14296891
Anyone find any good custom meal combos yet?
ab427a No.14296925
>>14296854
Stack vitality gems to get 200HP and thunder resist gems. He can't 1-shot you with anything at max HP with that, especially with the thunderproof mantle.
441426 No.14296926
>>14296776
>half the thread hates the game
>muh nip anon boogeyman
441426 No.14296935
>>14296735
Or he could just walk away while sipping. Not like unlocking rocksteady is difficult, plenty of people have it after 60-80 hours.
252d4b No.14296941
>>14296358
>Healing has been completely casualized
its at about the same level really. whats more casual than sprinting at full speed out of the zone and having 0% chance of being hit while healing/eating/sharpening.
>Sure is casualized now!
they actually tied the defense to the weapon type. melee takes less damage from physical and ranged less from elemental just like always. its not like gunners are rocking blade master levels of defense.
>Instead you just follow a monster indefinitely now while it runs to sleep.
and this is different from previous games how? at least now i can actually stop the monsters from running with slinger ammo instead of watching them run off.
e31da9 No.14296963
>>14296941
Palicos being able to bring you a vigorwasp is more casual than the potion movement. I still have it equipped though because it seems like the better choice from what i have available
>at least now i can actually stop the monsters from running with slinger ammo instead of watching them run off.
Christ it's such a relief to reaggro them when they try to run away, although i feel that getting some free ammo from beating into the monster enough is a bit too easy sometimes
252d4b No.14296972
>>14296435
sure you can unlock more cats to help with traps, but one per map at a time, not zone, but map. having to hope the monster goes to the zone its in and you get a mount and it chooses to run over too it its not like your going to reliably got for cat traps to speed up hunts. as far as the gajalakas go, i think the use a different element as a group as a random chance, ive been slept, poisoned and paralyzed by them. some times they help sometimes they get me killed.
76cf0a No.14296977
>>14296963
Getting interesting slingshot ammo is more fun than wyvern tears at least.
f41b1d No.14296981
>>14296963
The palicos were always able to heal you however the rate that cats shoot out vigorwasps is way too high. Other good abilities are the flashfly cage at higher levels they just plant shock traps that don't break after use. Plunderblade just gets you tons of extra monster parts. Palico horn is essentially like always hunting with a Hunting Horn friend.
252d4b No.14296983
>>14296446
im struggling to think of any maps that didnt have herbs, blue mushrooms and honey in them. but yeah, unlimited box access is the first thing that needs to go.
76cf0a No.14296987
>>14296941
Because there's a 0%chance the monster will hit you upon reentering the zone unless you paint it and pay attention to its position.
e31da9 No.14296988
>>14296977
I agree with you there
>>14296981
Yeah, sometimes they send me a wasp at damn near full health, i would willingly trade out the wasp delivery and keep the placement because I like being able to quickly cut one while moving around or on my way out of a zone or whatever
76cf0a No.14296998
>>14296981
I find the rate in which the send wasps out is roughly equal to their horn spam in 4u. The problem isn't the rate in which they send them out it's that they are basically handing out free max potions. I turned off my cat entirely until I unlocked the orchestra. Which is really silly and fun and obviously the best gadget.
1a2d9b No.14296999
>>14296935
the point I was making is that you don't unlock until you've pretty much killed and dominated everything in the game you retard
if the game is so easy, why would you need to be taking sips anyway?
f41b1d No.14297000
>>14296983
I like being able to change gear and eat though abandoning when you forget a thing is just annoying. Just don't let you re-eat during the quest. Same could have been done with items just lose access to your box after 5 minutes or something. Or at least add these restrictions in HR.
441426 No.14297002
>>14296999
>if the game is so easy, why would you need to be taking sips anyway?
Ask the people in this thread that keep complaining about dying.
76cf0a No.14297005
>>14297000
If you could only access your item box in the first five minutes that would be fine. But the box, cooking and fast travel should definitely be removed from high rank.
252d4b No.14297023
>>14296963
i havent used the vigorwasp since i got it to level 10 because i knew it would encourage bad gameplay and i didnt want to rely on it. plunderblade is where its at obviously, with the only exception being the flashfly cage for rathalos. i think i honestly like the shield the best to give me more openings to sharpen really. and the pods are pretty underwhelming damage wise except piercing pods on xeno. pretty invaluable for the staggers tho.
b0f129 No.14297026
>>14296926
>half the thread hates the game
>it's always 3 people out of 40+ every thread
If you say so.
>>14297000
Checked
>>14297005
>fast travel
No I like this part. The maps are huge now.
441426 No.14297032
>>14297026
The maps are the same size, discounting the forest because of multiple floors. They just have shitty tunnels instead of loading areas.
f41b1d No.14297040
>>14297026
Yeah when you take into consideration not being able to fast-travel in combat it is pretty much identically safe to zoning out and running back to camp in previous games. All you are saving is time and not risking any carts. Time is never an issue in these games and if it is fast travel is not going to make the game easier for you.
0a5106 No.14297045
>>14297032
The areas are definitely bigger than they used to be. Look at Wildspire Waste. What do mean by tunnels?
441426 No.14297063
>>14297045
The transition areas you don't fight monsters in. The forest and Wildspire have tons of them.
e31da9 No.14297076
how do you get the gold prints? I'm tempted to just meld an anja gem at this rate but i only have one of those
0a5106 No.14297079
>>14297063
You only don't fight if you don't re-aggro
f41b1d No.14297090
>>14297076
The weekly limited bounties is the only way so far. It might be different next week though.
a141e9 No.14297091
>>14297076
You get one each for completing all of the endemic life and fishing researchers' quests good luck finding that fucking downy crake. There was also one available from completing all of last week's limited bounties.
e31da9 No.14297154
76cf0a No.14297217
>>14297032
The mass in this game have upwards of 18 areas. I am really getting tired of your gay bullshit nigger.
e31da9 No.14297241
>when you finally get the drop you needed but forgot what your goals were in making it in the first place
some things don't change
b0f129 No.14297248
>>14297026
forgot to add >>14296999 to the checked list
>>14297032
>tunnels
Yea I noticed this too.
>maps are the same size discounting forest
They most-definitely are not.
Elder's crossing is feels the smallest but it's about the same as wasteland and I would have to waste hours trekking to one place and then back if I wanted to go gather something there. The fast-travel camps are fine for this new design.
ada194 No.14297289
e31da9 No.14297309
>>14297289
oh i used that don't worry, great new feature, i forgot why i was making the weapon because it was probably to beef up to fight something else
987187 No.14297313
<<14296627
More like posting webms that clearly show running while healing is anything but "super slow"
>>14296746
If their motivation was to make the game challenging, I'm sure they would've. We know for a fact however that wasn't their goal at all.
>>14296850
>Now they just need to make it so you can't restock on items during quests.
And get rid of the ability to move while healing or shooting Bowguns, and make the monsters ignore each other to attack you, and get rid of the environmental traps/heals, and remove the teleportation system, and make the cut scenes skippable, and fix the armor system.
e31da9 No.14297333
>>14297313
>and make the monsters ignore each other to attack you
this can happen and i've seen it happen to me, more than i've seen the flashy fight animations at that
>and get rid of the environmental traps/heals
I'd prefer to see them tweaked than removed, although getting free hits from them is pretty easy it's nice to see the map be more than just glorified arenas
91899a No.14297423
>monhun fu
>suck shit at timing the cooking
>that fucking music
I'm getting ptsd
9f6c6d No.14297468
>>14293610
All of these are dumb, but one really stands out.
>Monsters are lord of their domain and you're the stupid shit going into their territory where they have the advantage
In all of the maps, you have to contend with monsters wandering around the map, you're constantly in CONTESTED domain where they're fighting for territory and dominance, and lest we forget outside of the elder dragon types who don't fall for traps terrain traps that i've seen, they're all basically giant dumb animals.
>a second monster showing up during a quest is the worst thing because both monsters will decide the hunters must die
Holy shit not true and proves that you haven't touched the game. Monsters who show up tend to be neutral, and if you back off, they almost always end up fighting your quarry or taking a bite and fucking off, it depends on the monster, but almost none of them play nice with eachother, and depending on what you're hunting the new guy will either make it retreat or vice versa if they're lower or higher on the food chain.
In fact if you can't deal with another monster despite the ludicrous amounts of ways to use them to actually HELP you, hell you can fend off the other monster if it DOES decide to attack you by slinging shit pods at it's face, you're not good at the game, this shit is not hard.
>you have a single camp with limited per-quest items in it. get knocked out and you have a walk-of-shame back to the battlefield to think about how you fucked up while hoping the paintball doesn't wear off
<world: "lol there are, like, 7-8 camps per map and you have full access to your item box in all of them and can completely restock your items and can change your weapons and armor and can even just fast travel to whatever camp you want for free"
Are you a masochist? Fights last 15 minutes at most in this series, it gives you an hour for most quests.
Seriously, you talk like a faggot who got all this shit off a wiki rather then playing the fucking series.
9f6c6d No.14297488
>>14297333
Have you tried backing off? If one of the hits they aim at you hits the other monster, they tend to start fighting eachother. Some monsters don't have those animations, like Great Jagras X Puki Puki whatever. It's probably part of the reason there's only 30 and they're dripping in more monsters, they're still adding updates, extra monsters and likely those animations.
e31da9 No.14297544
>>14297488
>Have you tried backing off?
if i've got good health i try to get in there and get more hits usually, or just dungbomb the other monsters out asap
dd0759 No.14297547
How much autism is required to enjoy MHW? I’m somewhat interested in the series, and a fair few friends are picking it up. The problem is I don’t want to commit to something which is Warframe levels of grind. What I’m hoping for is co-op bos rushing with deep combat and satisfying drops. Is that what i’d Be getting into?
e31da9 No.14297595
>>14297547
less autism than the previous entries but still a level of autism if you're farming for drops
1a2d9b No.14297605
>>14297547
Investigations help significantly with the grind. I don't play warfame, but this game doesn't even come close to any kind of grind you'd see in a MMO or similar.
9f6c6d No.14297680
>>14297547
It's the least grind heavy, autism free version of Monster Hunter at current.
Any weapon is easy to pick up, but note that if you pick a bowgun learn where ingredients are on each map and that some guns have different ammo capacities, because you're going to be using those to restock on ammo.
Bows only have 1-3 coating types at a time out of like 5, so they're easy to use but easy to fuck up with, since their main damage comes from a spread shot after applying a coating, so if you just use the regular shot instead of learning your cycle you'll do weak damage.
Also status rounds and tools are fucking great and actually effective against monsters provided you actually hit, don't pass them up.
As for melee weapons, button mashing is heavily punished. Attack, then move or dodge unless you're certain you can get away with whatever you're doing, your enemies have super armor.
9f6c6d No.14297707
>>14297547
Also every weapon has a gimmick, Long Swords are combo based and power up based on finishers used successfully, Switch Axes' objective is to get three vials and then dump them in a lightning axe attack, Insect Glaive is about getting extracts to power up your moveset into cuh-razy aerial combos, so on and so forth. Learn those gimmicks.
1a2d9b No.14297728
>>14297707
>Switch Axes' objective is to get three vials and then dump them in a lightning axe attack
he means charge blade
this webm will only add more fuel to the fire
9f6c6d No.14297737
>>14297728
No I actually meant the Dual Staff is where you get the crystal salves arranged correctly in order to reposition the monster into a canyon
sorry tired
a5a870 No.14297811
>>14294027
>I remember when 4U came out and all you niggers were complaining about mounting because it makes the game too casual and stupid shit like that
Funny you say that; the last time I heard someone bitch about mounting, they were complaining it lowers your DPS, then they mentioned something about speedrunners never using it, and after that his nauseating drivel just kind of trailed off. The metafags of MH really are the worst I've stumbled across so far.
>>14295098
It's not about the difficulty, it's about people no longer being able to show off the fact that they tolerated needless design flaws. Granted, although I think a lot of features are overly heavily casualized, somehow i think people would still be bitching even if they weren't. Just the fact that everything flows a lot smoother seems to bother people.
>>14295221
MH's hitboxes remind me I'm playing an unpolished video gayme (series). There's enough resources out there that seeing little numbers really doesn't mean anything, it's just a tiny bit more convenient.
>>14295832
rip u
>>14295987
>purists
That's demonstrably how it happens. It isn't the only way, but it's quite a common one.
ebb817 No.14297835
>>14297468
Anon, he's talking about how World is different from the previous games. In previous games you were entering a hostile world and monsters had complete advantage over you, while in World they're fucked by the environment as much if not more than you. Monsters used to gang up on you almost exclusively while now they have a chance to attack each other giving you room to breath for doing basically nothing. These two elements are objectively a change to the series that makes the fights easier on a fundamental level, not as bad as being able to run and shoot bowguns when the monsters are still designed with the hunter not being able to do so. It reminds me of MGS Twin Snakes having MGS2's gameplay in MGS1's setting or if they remade Resident Evil 1 and let you move and shoot but enemies behave similarly than before when they were designed with a specific design originally in mind.
881275 No.14298002
1.05 Patch today
>SLICING JUST GOT NERFED
<Decreased the power of Slicing Ammo, and reduced the effect it has when hitting other players.
>Piercing and Normal got buffed
<Increased the power of Normal Ammo (1, 2, 3), Pierce Ammo (1, 2, 3), and all elemental ammo (except Dragon Ammo).
>Squads are reset?
>Reduced the maximum number of Slashberries you can hold in your item pouch from 60 to 30. Players can still use any remaining extra Slashberries if they currently have more than 30 in their item pouch.
“Fixed an issue where the error message "Failed to retrieve squad information. Please wait and try again." would appear and squad features would not be usable. However, as a result of this fix, players who were affected by this bug will have all of their squad data reset," Capcom confirm.
“Additionally, players in squads whose squad leaders have their data reset will also see any affiliated data disappear the next time they log in.
5371d7 No.14298020
>>14297728
I actually tested this out too a while ago, and it seems like if you run then drink you keep speed, but if you drink then run it will reduce speed. I dont know why it has this difference, its very strange.
5dec8c No.14298107
So… can you capture elder dragons? the Kirin doesn't fall into any trap.
1a2d9b No.14298116
>>14298107
no, they're immune to all traps
kill or be killed my man
5dec8c No.14298129
>>14298116
Aw… I wanted to keep them on my arena and see them sleeping in the platform.
8d045a No.14298140
>>14298129
That's why their quests always say Slay X instead of Hunt X, at least in the older games. I miss them having health pools big enough that they would actually run away and you'd have to meet them a second time, body parts wounded and all, to truly finish them off.
Chameleos when?
addb51 No.14298184
>>14297737
Can anyone tell me what the fuck this post is?
1a2d9b No.14298269
>>14298171
>go to kill nerg real quick
>teostra just wandering around
I didn't think they'd have a turf war animation
f536da No.14298277
>>14298140
But that is how it goes down. Every elder dragon goes back to its den at the end of the fight and has a climatic show down with you in there.
Also fun fact, your cat will talk shit about you if someone picks them up in the wild. Apparently Rokkei faints onDiabloso too much.
987187 No.14298293
>>14298277
>But that is how it goes down. Every elder dragon goes back to its den at the end of the fight and has a climatic show down with you in there.
No, he's talking about how in Monster Hunter games the Elder Dragons had health enough that you actually would not be able to finish them off the first time, and they would retreat from the field entirely. This would count as a "repel" but then next time you took on the quest you'd be facing the fucker right where you left off for his revenge.
152b45 No.14298298
anyone get the kirin armor yet?
ebb817 No.14298316
>>14298293
This is what I meant yes, should have been more clear. It made fighting them feel like a massive fight having to fight them across two quests since they'd get repelled and run away, like you're fighting a monster that's so above the things you've been fighting that a single quest isn't enough for them. Maybe it was because I was playing with two other people as opposed to playing with one other person in FU but in 4U I didn't see it happen once, their health simply wasn't there, even if you could repel them they'd die before the timer let them.
149d1e No.14298331
>>14298298
I do. I'm making some of its weapons now. I might also make the beta set if i still feel like fighting it tomorrow.
881275 No.14298332
>>14298316
4U's Rusted Kushala was one quest that some people just couldn't do in one post.
Mainly due to no planning, not enuff flashbombs and je suis monte shitters.
987187 No.14298340
>>14298316
I soloed most of 4th gen and I don't recall any Elder repels other than Lao Shan in XX. But yeah, chasing Kushal Daora across three maps in Dos was amazing.
>>14298331
Please tell me you didn't spend a lot of time on that face, because goddamn that looks hideous.
addb51 No.14298343
>>14298277
One of the palicos I've consistently gotten for raids and out in quests is named Lit Nig and it makes my day every single time. He only ever mentioned that his hunter uses a bunch of different weapons.
ebb817 No.14298344
>>14298331
>Grinding Kirin
My condolences, did they at least, finally, make that piece of shit Kelbidrome enjoyable to fight in World?
5dec8c No.14298345
>>14298331
Are there any high rank cowboy hats? or at least wing hats to be fancy. I'm still wearing the highrank lizard glasses because it is somewhat fancy.
Did you guys crafted all the silly masks?
481ff3 No.14298367
>>14296627
There is literally no argument you can make for not moving being more casual than moving None, zero, nadda. You fags always ignore the knockout arguments like this or shift away from it.
ROOTED IN PLACE IS MORE CHALLENGING THAN BEING ABLE TO MOVE WHILE HEALING, eat shit.
>>14296776
>mhw thread
It's the MHG you dumb nigger, it's not just for casuals to jerk off to their new game. Fuck, this is almost as bad as Overwatch, except that the kike didn't make a containment thread for this one.
>>14297026
>3 people out of 40
And you people say we're hyperbolic. The majority of people defending this game are posting three times as much as everyone else, as shills are expected to do. Just like Overwatch and it's constituants you people will be forgotten and hated just like this game.
>>14297468
>last point
>no argument for multiple camps and full access to item box
>durr hurr masochist
This is what I meant earlier by deliberately not reading posts.
f536da No.14298369
>>14298345
The Great Girros set has a cowboy hat. It also has plague doctor mask. It's probably my favorite set. Looks like a bloodborne hunter.
5dec8c No.14298387
>>14298369
Is there a high rank version of the guild hat?
149d1e No.14298397
>>14298340
It's a combination between the lighting and the Kirin hat that make it so she looks like she has a manface. I didn't spend too long in the creator. 15 mins tops.
>>14298344
I never really found Kirin to be that hard or annoying. As long as you have 20+ lighting resist you can take him easiily. I should honestly switch weapons since DB are really not good for this fight.
>>14298345
I'm not sure about male armor pieces but females don't get anything of the sort. The Vaal Havak helm looks kinda fancy, i suppose.
ebb817 No.14298404
>>14298397
Anon, it's not his attacks that made him annoying, it's how pretty much everything bounces off him unless you hit the face, it keeps jumping around like a hyped up Kelbi making hard to hit his weakspots while he keeps knocking you on your ass whenever he prances around like a faggot. I never had trouble killing it in FU or 4U but I always brought a fucking hammer too so I don't have to deal with his shit. God I hate the Kirin so much, why did they bring it back instead of Tigrex or Zinogre? Make it so you could get its parts the same way you got certain parts in 4U by trading with the wycoon so people can make his armor without dealing with his shit.
f536da No.14298426
>>14298387
I have not seen it yet. I have not played any arena which is how you unlock that stuff.
a141e9 No.14298471
>>14298387
There is a HR version of the guild set. It requires a bunch of HR arena coins.
>>14298404
Tigrex is likely going to be DLC. You can briefly see a hunter wearing it's set at the end of the final cutscene.
ebb817 No.14298475
>>14298471
Thank god I'm waiting for the ultimate edition on PC, 3rd gen not having Tiggy was enough, even if it did add based Barioth and brought back Narga
987187 No.14298494
>>14298475
>3rd gen not having Tiggy
What? Portable 3rd not only had him, it introduced his subspecies.
ebb817 No.14298504
>>14298494
Damn it, I forgot about P3rd, I remember being disappointed with him in that game since the exhaust system completely neutered the train that he was in FU. I went in so prepared expecting a tough fight and seeing him trip because he got tired a few minutes in and overall just getting his ass kicked made me sad.
149d1e No.14298533
>>14298404
Oh, i know. It's just that if i don't have to worry about thunderblight i can focus on my offense more. DB actually is alright in this fight thanks to it's unbounceable moves and high mobility. Too bad that they can only hit its head with a few stray hits or when it's down.
IG is pretty good too but it can actually deal damage throughout the fight. I'll probably just switch back to my main weapons after this.
0a84be No.14298560
>>14295512
There is no problem with the controls or mechanics.
>>14298002
>Nerfing shit, buffing shit
What the fuck is this nigger faggotry. Leave shit how it should be, useless cumguzzling faggots. This isn't a fucking fighting game.
da5afa No.14298655
>>14298560
it needed to be nerf because faggots were abusing slicing ammo since it was op. it was the equivalent of slime from mh3u. now you wont be seeing faggots spamming that shit online and knockin you out
0a84be No.14298671
>>14298655
>it was the equivalent of slime from mh3u
Good and it should have stayed that way. Fuck this patching nonsense. Fucking faggot devs.
cc264e No.14298692
>>14298560
>>14298671
>anon can't beat Kirin without his slicing ammo
0a84be No.14298705
>>14298692
I've only ever gunned once and it was in vain against Duramboros in 3u. Shit like this is what adds to each individual games charm and shouldn't be fucked with. Patches should only be used for things that actually break the game, bugs and shit. Not the removal of fun things.
cc264e No.14298724
>>14298705
>Shit like this is what adds to each individual games charm and shouldn't be fucked with
Is "charm" nostalgia goggles for "jank"?
0a84be No.14298735
>>14298724
Charm means fun. Abusing glitches and mechanics is enjoyable, shocking information I'm sure.
e634e4 No.14298751
>>14298705
>elemental, normal, and piercing being worthless was fun
wow crazy
b0f129 No.14298757
da5afa No.14298758
>>14298705
but it does break the game. every retard you go online rocks slicing ammo and spammed it. they used nothing but slicing ammo because there is no need to use other ammo. now its been balanced so you are forced to use other ammo.
ebb817 No.14298759
>>14298724
No, charm means playing a game and the cheese strats being fun to dick around with. Platinum refused to fix the Killgore glitch with the ports of Bayonetta 1 because the glitch is part of Bayo 1.
You anons need to start defining what you mean by jank because it's starting to keep track of what the fuck you mean by it, how is a strategy being stupidly powerful jank? Is strafe jumping in Quake jank too?
ebb817 No.14298760
>>14298759
Starting to become hard to keep track*
ebb817 No.14298768
>>14298759
>>14298760
Apologies for the triple post, but for the record, preventing the slicing shot from being that broken is a good thing since it requires absolutely no skill to pull off and made every other ammo option obsolete. They should do the same to the CB so people don't spam ultra bursts until the cows go home.
0a84be No.14298798
>>14298751
I'm not sure of the damage numbers for them i don't care too much but perhaps i went to far in regard to no buffs depending on how bad they are.
>>14298758
Does it literally break the game or cause it to crash? Didn't think so. Sounds like a fun time to me.
da5afa No.14298810
>>14298798
it does break the game in terms of balance, just because it doesnt have pvp, it doesnt mean balance shouldnt be looked at you faggot slicing ammo spammer.
0a84be No.14298819
>>14298810
>Balance in pve
People like you that care about the meta are the biggest of faggots. Play what you feel is fun at any given time.
ea5f64 No.14298836
>>14298692
Will this be worth the effort it takes to track it down?
e634e4 No.14298880
Do blunt weapons still do extra exhaust damage in MHW?
f536da No.14298890
>>14298819
Slicing ammo was broken my dude. Adapt or cry.
8d045a No.14298898
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>14298890
I'm gonna have to agree with this anon here, Slicing ammo made the Kelbi bow in 3U look like a fucking joke.
0a84be No.14298921
>>14298890
>Slicing ammo was broken
Good. Should stay that way.
>Adapt or cry
I don't gun.
Devs already cucked, so once again World proves to be the worst game in the series.
e31da9 No.14298925
>>14298921
>so once again World proves to be the worst game in the series.
not having to go swimming puts it above 3
f536da No.14298933
0a84be No.14298936
>>14298925
Swimming is great. Git gud scrub.
f536da No.14298946
>>14298925
Not having to send 1/3rd of your entire game time standing in one spot mashing A puts this game in the top 3 effortlessly.
8d045a No.14298958
>>14298946
You mean something that was changed in Generations? An actual QoL change that was already in the series before World? Come on man, you just said Generations is in the top 3 games of the series along with XX.
cc264e No.14298961
>>14298921
>I don't gun.
>But slicing ammo should stay broken and knock everyone in your squad over when they're trying to hit the monster's weakpoints, that's definitely a good idea
LS shitter detected
5dec8c No.14298970
Silly question, but are new areas also planned with the monsters DLC? We have a lava land but not a frozen land.
9a8130 No.14298972
>>14298898
>>14298890
>Defending something that should have been fixed even before the game came out.
>There was three beta and it still wasn't fixed.
I'd be laughing if I wasn't ==angry==.
8d045a No.14298984
>>14298972
What? I never said that, of course it shouldn't have been in the game in the first place.
881275 No.14299003
>>14298404
Punish draw GS viable?
Or just grab a LBG or HBG and shoot it in the head with Normal 2?
Whats the best Normal 2 HBG in world?
0a84be No.14299030
>>14298961
I don't use LS. Keep trying tho.
9a8130 No.14299037
>>14298984
Sorry, english is not my first language, I meant to say that putting out patches after a game came out isn't what a company should do, as it shows how much, or how less, they care about the game and the public.
cc264e No.14299040
>>14299030
Sure thing, XxKirito99xX
8d045a No.14299048
>>14299037
Amen to that. Devs are over-reliant on patches these days to fix the most basic shit. Why the fuck is Poogie a day 1 patch in World? Fucking Poogie.
1ada95 No.14299050
>>14299003
Normal 3 works the same as normal 2 but hits harder in world so go for that.
For guns either metal, bone or anjanath, there might be more but I cant remember.
For pierce legiana.
About GS p. draw isnt worth it, not even crit draw is. Looks like its mostly focus, weakness exploit, might. After that atack and critical boost.
0a84be No.14299064
>>14299040
You shit posters don't have a bit of intelligence do you? Let me point it out for you since you don't seem to be the smartest fella. Why would a Kirito shitter use a LS when DB exist?
Wish i could IP filter your dumbass since this thread is on the way out.
cc264e No.14299076
>>14299064
>Why would a Kirito shitter use a LS when DB exist?
*joins you mid-hunt*
*runs up and attacks the monster while it's sleeping*
e634e4 No.14299080
What do I do with Hunting Horn after I've got all my buffs at L and extended?
Just mash O at the head?
21a06c No.14299101
>>14298972
There's been stupid broken shit in every game. You only complain like this now because it's MHW and they actually patch balance changes
21a06c No.14299129
>How to tell how high the butthurt in a thread is
>Press Ctrl+F
>Type in casual
>63 results
9a8130 No.14299149
>>14299101
>You only complain like this now because it's MHW
You say that as if you know what kind of game I played, but you don't. I complained about many things in game that were later patched, but I always say no when it ask me to update. I'm playing a console game, not an mmo. now excuse me, my pc smell of burning.
3396ba No.14299155
>>14299037
>casual, broken shit is bad
>fixing casual, broken shit is also bad
e804e8 No.14299211
>>14299037
Patching stuff like slicing ammo is what patches are meant for. Poogie on the other hand I don't know how the fuck that happened. Also devs are reliant on day 1 patches now. The way I've heard it explained from them is it essentially just makes them push the game out a month earlier. Since it just lets them submit the unpatched version to sony and microsoft and the manufacturers. Then they just continue working on it until launch. So essentially you are getting games to come out earlier however you are making it so somebody without internet cannot play your game as intended.
e634e4 No.14299509
>>14299211
What what happened with poogie?
e31da9 No.14299528
>>14299509
he was put in with a day 1 patch, strange but not actually the end of the world.
8d045a No.14299530
>>14299509
Wasn't in the game until the day 1 patch added Poogie in.
9a8130 No.14299534
False alarm, pc was not burning.
>>14299211
>Since it just lets them submit the unpatched version.
Is "unpatched" the new way to say "unfinished" ?
>So essentially you are getting games to come out earlier.
See the pic I upload.
I cannot properly convey how sad and angry I am to see a serie I liked so dearly go so low as to come out in this state; what were the testing team thinking ? what were the dev feeling ?
e634e4 No.14299547
>>14299528
>>14299530
Oh ok, I thought that was just an intentional thing.
8d045a No.14299556
>>14299547
Well it was since they decided to add Poogie at the last minute. Whether he was planned all along or something they forgot until close to launch will remain a mystery however.
e31da9 No.14299578
>>14299556
>Whether he was planned all along or something they forgot until close to launch will remain a mystery however.
Everything about poogie is a mystery
e804e8 No.14299635
>>14299534
Day 1 patch nonsense is different from early access. It essentially just lets devs work on the game until release instead of stopping a month before while the game goes through certification. The developers never intend for people to play without the day 1 patch. Early access is just putting out an unfinished game and asking people to pay to playtest it for you. The only way early access is even remotely forgivable is if you get a significant discount since you are playtesting the game for them.
f536da No.14299720
>>14299578
I pet him every day but he still won't locate costumes for me.
9a8130 No.14299738
>>14299635
If they never intended for people to play without the day 1 patch, there would be no day 1 patch to begin with. It would be already in before being sold.
Let's not debate what the difference between early access and unpatched/unfinished are, as this would be off-topic.
3396ba No.14299762
>>14299738
You're the one that brought up early access in the first place, you nigger.
17fa61 No.14299785
>friend recommends mh3rd HD as my first mohun game
>says it's easy peasy japaniese
>literally moonrunes, even in the patched version
>do the last 1star village quest obtaining Royal Honey
<oh boy I finally get to fight an actual monster
>didn't realize I had to clear the whole area of monsters so get harassed by skinny nigger lizards and bulky nigger lizards
>barely pun intended manage to kill that honey nabbing piece of shit bear in time
>return to village
>"hey Gerpkin, can you kill that bear for us? Here's a quest for you to do it all over again and you get no recognition for what you just did!"
Ok, I see, it's going to be one those games, right?
e804e8 No.14299835
>>14299738
Like I said Day 1 patches are to get around certification. I don't completely agree with it because the disc should be playable as intended with no internet. However it at least is a trade-off benefit to the consumer.
9a8130 No.14299895
>>14299835
I didn't know what certification was until know.
f536da No.14299904
>>14299785
You only do that to learn what gathering is. Gathering and Monster slaying go hand in hand. It gets less tedious after you unlock the farm.
9a8130 No.14299905
>>14299895
Damn, posted too soon, will add; and I join you in that I don't agree with it. I hope that for the next monhun, they will not do the same mistake as this one.
sage for double post.
6e9d1d No.14299912
>>14299080
Redo the attack/defense buffs over, as those run out fairly quickly even with maestro charm/skill.
Also do your bigger songs, as those net the bigger combos which means bigger blast damage. Fuggin love the triple up swing that comes with (L) healing.
9f6c6d No.14299953
>>14297835
I don't care much for obscene difficulty or having to deal with what are essentially wild animals of different species ganging up on you despite being a small source of food compared to what they normally eat, and I couldn't stand parts of earlier games because of the curve. you have more options to deal with monsters, which is important because EVERY MISSION has you fighting or dealing with multiple, or has one moving into another and aggroing others now, literally EVERY monster is Deviljho fundamentally and every enviroment is unstable from the start, the game had to change to allow you to deal with that. As a result most missions are easier, but as you go up, more and more monsters will be thrown at you, and you'll randomly be invaded by a fucking organic B-52 bomber or Deviljho when the update hits.
I don't want the same game every time with a roster update, they're going in their own direction and i'm fine with where they took it this time. Being hard, unrelentingly or no, doesn't make a game fun. You have to have some sort of modest difficulty curve with spike tests in the form of the flagship monsters in order to ease someone into playing the damn game.
new players already have trouble with the newbie T-Rex monster since he pursues you relentlessly, and Nergigante stands as a wall to new players who just tried to use the enviroment to deal with monsters because he first appears in a large swamp with no natural big traps other then the paratoads, which you can only use so many times before they're ineffective. And so on and so forth.
2ac425 No.14300002
>>14298970
>No ice map
>came to the realization due to the fact that there was no hot drinks
They are one of the things that are guaranteed to come out with every MH game, the fact that wolrd doesent have one is pretty damn sad.
I think world is unfinished and that capcom rushed it out the door, its missing and screwed up quite a bit of obvious things that makes MH what it is.
5dec8c No.14300026
>>14300002
I just want a house in the snow and a full acuarium to place ALL the fishes.
e804e8 No.14300052
>>14300002
I think they looked at the success of Splatoon in Japan and are trying to mimic it with free post-launch updates. I mean the game has cool drinks and I am pretty sure I saw hot drinks in something related to world.
addb51 No.14300071
What's better to bring to Kushala: dragon for the seal or poison for the damage and wind lock.
6e9d1d No.14300091
>>14300002
That could be G-rank. They've got a lot of potential to have a 'mountain pass' opeb from a rampaging elder dragon in so many places. Set up a forward base like the third feet is.
Goodness knows other first fleet characters are alluded to without being shown. Plenty of wiggle room for whatever they want to make.
f536da No.14300092
>>14300002
They already confirmed they will do substantial content updates that aren't monsters so we could very well see some kind of tundra map. And no Tundra is not an environment necessarily that has to be in MH. Several games had no snow map.
e804e8 No.14300120
>>14300092
I think just MH1 had no snow and even that I'm not sure of.
e31da9 No.14300156
>>14300092
> And no Tundra is not an environment necessarily that has to be in MH.
It's still usually one of my favorite zones, I'd like to see it back
955445 No.14300161
>>14300120
Going through Freedom 1, you're right that there are no snow areas. Only place you'd use hot drinks is in the old desert at night or in the old swamps while in the caves.
c65b99 No.14300378
>>14295377
>do this
>online works see other people in gathering hall
>able to hunt with them
>as soon as my friend joins the hall I'm in the his game locks out
>try joining a room with him
>my game locks out
So how do I get this shit to work for two people playing in the same physical space but with one router?
987187 No.14300390
>>14298759
"Jank" is just "anything that was in Monster Hunter that isn't in World so we can demonize anything that's not World"
>You anons
Anon, the (((people))) using the word "jank" aren't Anons.
>>14299953
>I don't care much for obscene difficulty
Then this isn't the series for you.
>literally EVERY monster is Deviljho fundamentally
This is the stupidest thing I may have ever heard.
>and every enviroment is unstable from the start, the game had to change to allow you to deal with that.
No it didn't. You already had plenty of tools to deal with intruding monsters, and then in World they're not even a threat to you anyway most of the time.
>I don't want the same game every time with a roster update
I do.
>Being hard, unrelentingly or no, doesn't make a game fun
Alone, no, but it is necessary to have challenge to make a game fun.
>You have to have some sort of modest difficulty curve with spike tests in the form of the flagship monsters in order to ease someone into playing the damn game.
I don't see why.
06cd43 No.14300391
>Diablos charging at full speed
>Guard Point
>he dies
8d045a No.14300398
>>14300378
If you're playing locally then one of you can tick the built in ad-hoc pro server in the network options and set the IP to 127.0.0.1 while the other sets the IP to that person's computer local address. The disadvantage is that you won't get randoms. The advantage is that you won't get randoms. Depends on what you're trying to do.
8053fc No.14300417
I got a question about the Dragon element
basically what counts as a dragon element attack or is it just all attacks made by a dragon?
e804e8 No.14300424
>>14300391
Yeah I'm starting to get into the habbit of guard pointing it's awesome. Diablos is the ideal training specimen too.
c65b99 No.14300437
>>14300398
Holy fuck. Thank you so much it worked
8053fc No.14300538
>>14300424
i need to work on my guard pointing, i can only do the S&S > axe mode one , never any of the other ones.
e804e8 No.14300550
>>14300538
Finding out the CB hop has a guard point blew my mind. I can't figure out it's timing though.
addb51 No.14300713
>farm up a decent windproof set for Kushala
>doesn't work, all his wind attacks still knock you around constantly, even his tiny wind barrier around himself
What's the point?
2ac425 No.14300735
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>>14300550
Its pretty much instant whenever you try to switch from SnS mode to axe mode.
This video has some good examples of it along with good CB gameplay in general.
When I figured out when to time the gp I realized I could do it exactly the same way in 4u too. But throughout my time with that game I never learned how to use em
>>14300713
>farm Kushalas for ages for its armor set for my DB
>gave its armorset full evasion so i can go full naruto style
>turns out I cant evade for shit
>Loads of megapotions get chugged due to my incompetence
Well it was worth a shot
928ba8 No.14300760
>>14300735
What the fuck is up with the music sounding so out of place? Sounds like a generic FF battle theme, not a MH theme.
3396ba No.14300779
>>14300760
The music is by far one of the worst parts of World. There's a few good tracks (Bazelgeuse theme, Rotten vale battle music), but most of it is really mediocre.
06cd43 No.14300783
>>14300760
>>14300779
It's not the in-game music.
C'mon now, it's pretty clear it was edited in.
3396ba No.14300790
>>14300783
Oh geez, you're right. I hadn't even bothered to open the video.
8d045a No.14300801
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>>14300783
Even still, World's music is pretty weak. They somehow managed to pussify Proof of a Hero
8053fc No.14300823
>>14300550
Wait seriously?
in 4u or world?
2ac425 No.14300852
>>14300790
You would know if the music was even from world if you had actually have played the game or at least watched a video of wildspire waste gameplay without that shitty music.
Not to mention that is also obviously not MH music. Shame on you 3396ba, I would bully you right now if I knew how to.
>>14300823
charge points works the same in both games.
3396ba No.14300890
>>14300852
I have played and enjoyed World, which is why I know the music is generally underwhelming. I just didn't realize the music wasn't from World because I didn't actually watch the video.
06cd43 No.14300896
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>>14300801
I have always found the music for MH to be serviceable, besides the more iconic tracks nothing really stands out to me, so it really surprises me to see people praising it now.
I like this version of Proof of a Hero, though I think FU's one still the superior one, the problem is that it's never played, or rather, it's used in the most boring fight in the whole game and is used rather softly.
That other anon might've been complaining about the more fantastical tracks in the series but nothing has come close to the Shagaru Magala theme in terms of hyping me up. That whole build up and fight is my favorite out of the entire series.
987187 No.14300946
>>14300896
>I have always found the music for MH to be serviceable, besides the more iconic tracks nothing really stands out to me, so it really surprises me to see people praising it now.
I think it stands out because one of the few things XX did right was the music - Dino and friends all had amazing themes, as did Valfalk, and the mix of Proof used for the final phase of Atral Ka is pretty damn hype. Even prior to that though, tracks like Brachy or Dire Miralis have always been earworms.
f1801f No.14300969
Any sessions going on? Tried the latest but says it's no longer up.
987187 No.14300973
>>14300969
Headed off to work at the moment, but if you're around in about 10 hours or so could do some 4U
5371d7 No.14301019
.>>14298171
You literally just posted the same exact video.
>>14298397
All faces look bad ingame sadly.
2ac425 No.14301028
>>14300896
>nothing has come close to the Shagaru Magala theme in terms of hyping me up
MY NIGGER
The first time fighting Shigeru Miyamoto was something else entirely, the music, the atmosphere, and the fight itself was nothing but perfection and nothing but fun to me. Fighting that guy was the best conclusion they could have had to low rank village in 4u and I cant think of anything better.
06cd43 No.14301070
>>14300946
I guess it's fair, MH games have a lot of content and not every monster can have a bombastic theme.
That being said the only themes that come to my mind are Tigrex, both Magala's, pokke vilage, Deviljho, Desert Tyrant from FU and Rathalos.
And I don't even like the Rathalos theme, it just got engraved into my skull with how many times I had to farm him for a heavenly scale, It gave me ptsd when World played it again.
I never played Gen or XX because I was tired of playing on my 3ds and after hearing that the frame rate was going to be even worse than in 4u I never gained interest again.
>>14300969
7Gb8w8cfKmpX
Not sure if anyone can add you to the squad right now though.
>>14301028
I was making fun of Magala the whole game with his "muh darkness" gimmick but then they fully embrace it and elevate it into something else entirely and made it work.
>mfw he literally engulfs you in darkness for the final fight.
5333bd No.14301224
I haven't beat the game yet so maybe I missed It but what and how do you join squads?
8053fc No.14301258
>>14300852
really? they didnt add any new guard points?
because it doesn't feel like hop has any in 4U
6e9d1d No.14301332
>>14301224
Get invited to one, then squad search on the session menu after character choice or on quest board.
e5eff7 No.14301402
04ed01 No.14301462
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>>14300946
I love the moments Tri's theme pops in the Dire Miralis fight.
6e9d1d No.14301467
>>14301402
Simply order a meal, and beefcake meowmix will be your server.
0a5106 No.14301509
I'm so absolutely fucking sick of other large monsters showing up in difficult hunts just to take up screen space
6e9d1d No.14301532
0a5106 No.14301570
I think I know what that poster talking about "every monster is fundamentally deviljho" meant. All the ground-based monsters rely on fucking retard charging you
>>14301532
Some monsters completely ignore dung pods
e31da9 No.14301593
>>14301570
>Some monsters completely ignore dung pods
throw more
6e9d1d No.14301635
e31da9 No.14301649
>>14301635
>wasting a charm on literal shit throwing ability
worst case scenario throw bombs at your target monster instead
553ba1 No.14301651
>>14299953
>Nergigante stands as a wall to new players who just tried to use the enviroment to deal with monsters because he first appears in a large swamp with no natural big traps other then the paratoads, which you can only use so many times before they're ineffective
>nergigante
>an elder dragon
>effected by traps at all
This is casual bullshit. Are the other EDs effected by traps now, too? If they are, I'm pissed.
>>14300417
Certain attacks by dragons and a few other monsters are considered dragon element. Usually there will be some sort of thick black smoke with blood-red sparks on most dragon element attacks, and they'll also give you dragonblight - represented by a purple claw icon beside your name. Not very many monsters use it though, and ironically, the most prominent examples aren't dragons. Stygian Zinogre and Deviljho (especially Savage Deviljho) are the most notable examples, and both are very obvious about it. Valfalk is probably the most notable example of a dragon using it for their main attacks, almost all other dragons primarily use another element or status. I think Gore and Shagaru's frenzy attacks do dragon element too, but I'm not sure.
>>14300550
>>14300391
You guys should see Brave Charge Blade in XX. So many fucking guard points, and you get free phial explosions when you use them too. Even your evades get guard points, because obviously you need a GP to make all your i-frames extra safe, and to blow up anything that touches you. And it can even ultraburst without losing its shield, just like in World. Because Brave wasn't already OP enough.
Fuck Brave style. The only weapon it doesn't turn into a huge broken mess is Hunting Horn, because nothing short of doubling all of its MVs could turn Hunting Horn into a broken mess.
e31da9 No.14301698
>>14299953
>and Nergigante stands as a wall to new players who just tried to use the enviroment to deal with monsters because he first appears in a large swamp with no natural big traps other then the paratoads
wait what, i thought the first time you -really- get to fight him till death was in the elder recess. I don't recall him in the swamp. In the recess zone you first fight him in it has lots of slopes you can use to bait out jump attacks though, the hammer sliding attack is savagery against him
149d1e No.14301768
>>14301651
The elder dragons still can't get trapped in World. They can get hit by other environmental objects like the para/sleep/blast-toads and something like the big crystals in Elders recess. The devs should really rethink how much damage those three crystals do however. It's about 400 damage per crystal with a knockdown.
42a49d No.14301813
this game is too fucking easy, I handicap myself by not using all these fucking casual crutches and I still can't cart to elder dragons
time to go back to FU and get my ass kicked by a plesioth
881275 No.14301882
>>14301651
Gore and Shaggy have no elemental affiliation.
>Still seeing nubs eating for Dragon res in 140 Shaggy rooms.
42a49d No.14301887
>>14301882
what are his fireballs then, physical?
a141e9 No.14301905
>>14301698
Aside from the scripted appearances on zorah, the first time you properly fight nergi is in the Elder's Recess. I haven't seen him show up anywhere else yet. In the beta you could fight him in Wildspire Wastes.
>>14301768
They also ignore environmental effects that work the same as traps, like the grimalkynes. Toads are an exception because they apply a status ailment.
881275 No.14301989
>>14301887
The triple blast breath that one shots your ass? Dragon res didn't really save anyone. Moxie did.
The sticky virus ball Shaggy uses is completely fucking ridiculous doing 80%+ HP damage for bladememers and one shotting Gunners.
I ate for dragon res and took a Gore Virus ball to the face and still took the same damage and after 900+ Shagarus i can say its physical damage.
5333bd No.14302005
That Rathian I just fought with someone else. Could the luck be any worse? Constantly bombarded by both at the same time jesus.
76cf0a No.14302363
>>14300801
Proof of a Hero in world is thematically appropriate though. It plays during the Zorah Magdaros fight, in which you must turn back a dying elder dragon from reaching his final resting place because a monster of his size and power dying in a volcano would destroy the entire continent the game takes place on. The theme is weak out of context. But it IS thematically appropriate for the situation it's played during. It's sad and melancholic, and in the proper context pretty good
But yea. The sound track is generally pretty weak.
42a49d No.14302370
>>14302363
the only memorable soundtracks are Nergigante and Bazelgeuse and then Nergigante's isn't even that good
987187 No.14302373
>>14302363
>Sad and melancholic
That is so the opposite of what that theme is meant to be though, and why the fuck would that be appropriate? Because you're trying to save the world from exploding?
42a49d No.14302389
>>14302373
circle of life n shit, it's supposed to be about the terrible beauty of nature
987187 No.14302390
>>14302389
Yeah, and you're putting nature in it's place, as you always are. What's sad about kicking it's ass?
76cf0a No.14302393
>>14302373
Because you're denying a centuries old being his final rest. It's in pain and just wants to die, anon.
42a49d No.14302407
>>14302390
is this how you felt when godzilla died as well?
you have no soul
e5eff7 No.14302415
987187 No.14302978
>>14302393
>It wants to die
>We're killing it
So what's the problem?
>>14302407
Depends which incarnation, the ones that are just a mindless rampaging beast I have no sympathy for, but seeing the brave warrior that fought against the Earth's foes die in meltdown after vanquishing Destroyah was a tearjerker.
8d045a No.14303141
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>>14302363
But in the original it played at the end of a massive fight against a massive dragon that was only trying to run away from the literal calamity dragon Fatalis and was in such a panic that he almost destroyed the place. Lao was innocent too, but he was causing shit so he had to be put down. I fail to see how different it is, causing problems by dying in a place or causing problems by running away from something terrible, you're the hero bringing the goliath down. You're supposed to feel like the struggle is almost at an end and that you're about to prove why you are a real human bean and a real hero.
1a8257 No.14303919
The other day I listed a few things I didn't like now for some I an neutral or somewhat in favour of.
I like the SoS flares, it makes jump in and quest fast and easy to find what you want, but somewhat kills the idea of hunting hubs and parties.
Tempered is much nicer than frenzied, I mean at least you can do shit without stones
would prefer it to just be higher health also
The corpse dragon while slow and fairly easy it is a nice fight and sits well between the super easy and hard elders
Augmenting weapons seems to be somewhat well done and not bad in an overall bad game
Tracking is ok, dont get me wrong it be fucking awful on small maps in which I want anyway
but leading you to the fastest path when a monster flies away is ok
Eating at base and having item box, I feel eating is amazing and makes the faster online play with sos flares work far more fluid
Item box? I think it should only be for like the first 5 minutes of a hunt, I get forgetting a hot drink or flash bombs so you wanna add them but being able to just restock everything throughout the hunt isnt good
I dunno what else I can say, my opinion still stands from the first few days that this is a well done monster hunter clone but its not monster hunter
Im now HR70 and will probably only go to 100 and will not touch again even for DLC or pick up the PC version unless it has a G rank
542c8a No.14304093
>>14292126
hey was the ID changed?
I can't join via Session ID.
8d045a No.14304170
>>14303919
>Tempered is much nicer than frenzied, I mean at least you can do shit without stones
They seem much closer to the hypers from Generations than the frenzied from 4U. Apex was pretty dumb yeah, but regular frenzied was okay in my opinion.
987187 No.14304195
>>14303919
>Tempered is much nicer than frenzied, I mean at least you can do shit without stones
You're thinking of Apex, not Frenzy. Stones weren't even in vanilla 4.
928ba8 No.14304334
>>14303919
Did you know it makes absolutely zero difference if you bought the game and loved it and played 1000 hours or bought the game and didn't play past 30 hours? Capcom got a full sale.
b0f129 No.14304668
>>14304093
I just got up. New ID is 4nGQFXzKHQLQ
Also, there's a new thread.
e634e4 No.14305388
Reminder that Radoban is /ourmon/, do not bully him.
e31da9 No.14305960