00e7ec No.14291588
I heard this thing released in Japan back in October. How was it? Any good changes to offset the inevitable bad ones? Was headphone girl as bad a Mary Sue as I thought she was gonna be? Please tell me they didn't go full FRIENDSHIP XDDD ending like Apocalypse.
30689a No.14291594
>>14291588
>Was headphone girl as bad a Mary Sue as I thought she was gonna be
yeah
Also the "new" art is fucking awful. They somehow managed to make it less detailed despite being at a higher resolution.
00e7ec No.14291616
>>14291594
It's a shame. They did a remake of Persona 2 and the art wasn't that bad then, but this comes out and it's clearly a step down from the original. But I guess they got lesser artists to do this game because, as usual, SMT is the redheaded child compared to Persona.
Also, don't just "yeah" me, give me all the crappy details on new girl. Lemme guess, she's a half-demon.
30689a No.14291620
>>14291616
she is your daughter from the future come to kill you
ec0ae4 No.14291628
I didn't get the purpose of this remake; they had a release on their last handheld of the game already. Did they even do anything differently that's meaningful?
52c588 No.14291631
>>14291628
You can pirate it without a flash cart
cd1865 No.14291636
>>14291628
Shove a Mary Sue with paid DLC.
30689a No.14291640
>>14291628
>Did they even do anything differently that's meaningful
They butchered the art, added cheats that cost money and added a mary sue that sticks out like a sore thumb.
00e7ec No.14291651
>>14291620
>she is your daughter from the future come to kill you
I knew nothing good would come from them crossing over with nuFE, it's starting to rub off on ATLUS.
30689a No.14291661
>>14291651
all their uniqueness and charm is gone. Look at the art of the Radiant Historia remake, its looks fucking awful. They have the gall to chop up and sell the better art separately.
f9186c No.14291666
You mean Deep? Been waiting for someone to put it up on FreeShop, but I've heard mostly negative things about the added shit.
00e7ec No.14291672
>>14291666
Oh, they changed the name? Thanks for the heads-up, Satan.
>>14291661
Didn't they learn not to do this shit from Etrian Odyssey Untold?
cd1865 No.14291683
>>14291672
Only the EO team got the memo.
f9186c No.14291685
>>14291661
I'm still pissed that Sekaiju no Meikyu 5 had the real music cut out and sold as separate DLC.
>>14291672
Guess so, never keep up with foreignizations of games anymore, since they're all irrevocably shit. The correct title to look for when it inevitably hits FreeShop is Deep Strange Journey.
ba28a4 No.14291702
>>14291672
>Didn't they learn not to do this shit from Etrian Odyssey Untold?
I think the idea is along the lines of "if it doesn't work with one franchise, keep trying with others until less people care and it becomes normalized". Personally I don't get why either Strange Journey or Radiant Historia got picked for remakes, especially when DS games can still be played on the 3DS, nor why the obligatory character redesigns, aside from just wanting to make more money off each (including selling you back the original assets).
3a7cba No.14291717
>>14291588
Apocalypse is easily not an "SMT story" by any means. In a typical SMT story, you and your allies are eventually driven apart by your irreconcilable differences and philosophies. Apocalypse was the opposite of that. Your allies start off radically different, but eventually overcome their differences with "le power of fwendship".
And yet, it's still my second favourite mainline SMT game. First being Nocturne, third being SMT4, and the rest being trash.
f9186c No.14291722
>>14291717
>the rest being trash.
>Hating 1, 2, If…, and Strange Journey
You should probably kill yourself. I love Press Turn as much as the next guy, but it's far from the end-all be-all or defining trait of the series.
cd1865 No.14291729
>>14291717
The only correct route to take in Apocalypse is siding with Dagda.
58468c No.14291965
>>14291717
The idea behind Apocalypse is to capitalize on the specialty of nuAtlus (writing dialogue with anime friends) and make an entire SMT game about the neutral route. I understand other fans would not like it, but I personally think it worked. Correcting the gameplay problems of IV and writing a kickass Irish antihero helped.
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bfc6a9 No.14293674
>>14291640
>added cheats that cost money
The original Strange Journey more or less already has a cheat system, what's different about the new one besides Atlus trying to nickel and dime its customers?
>>14291616
>But I guess they got lesser artists to do this game because, as usual, SMT is the redheaded child compared to Persona.
The last three Persona games had Soejima as the character designer anyway, I'd prefer they switch back to Kaneko.
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58468c No.14294096
>>14293649
No to what? You don't get headpats for being a badass with correct opinions when you can't even formulate them.
a896d5 No.14294118
Remake Persona 2 without the random encounters
00e7ec No.14294377
>>14291965
Why didn't Apocalypse have a Divine Powers route anyway?
c0a361 No.14294389
>>14294377
Because if you try to join them Dagda just kills you.
cc5f08 No.14294434
>>14294096
>correct opinions
in what way? He was just shitting on yours which is perfectly legitimate.
Everything you stated in your post is cancer and anathema to SMT as a franchise, its not fucking Persona.
>correcting the gameplay problems of IV
nerfing smirk doesn't mean the gameplay is "corrected". Improved, but not corrected.
>writing a kickass irish antihero
this sounds like the opposite of helping in every context
>entire SMT game about the neutral route
Retarded
And it never fixed the horrible DLC situation that was in IV as well
37714f No.14296506
>>14291702
I hope SMT V will be good, so far the trailers look promising as long as the gameplay remains the same or more like nocturne thatd be cool.
185067 No.14296583
Any side-by-sides of the changes?
185067 No.14296676
>>14296660
Was giving Jimenez the Dreamworks face really necessary?
738eba No.14296702
>>14296676
Might as well say whether this remake is necessary, especially since Atlus can't into remakes.
0390e6 No.14296717
>>14296702
Has Atlus done a single remake since Cozy left?
bfc6a9 No.14296738
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>>14296660
I'm surprised so many people get upset at the revised portraits but barely mention that they rearranged the soundtrack as well.
f22a5b No.14296825
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>>14296738
Isn't this track just a part of the Anniversary Memorial album, though? I haven't heard anything about DSJ using those tracks, unless someone's willing to provide proof from the nip version.
If it did use those tracks, the downgrade from Fear of God alone would be massive as fuck.
30689a No.14297096
>>14293674
>unironically defending paying for cheats
kill yourself
bfc6a9 No.14297101
>>14297096
Are you fucking illiterate? I wasn't speaking rhetorically, I was asking what's different about the new cheat system compared to the old one.
30689a No.14297113
>>14297101
>he is still damage controlling for paying for cheats
why are you still alive?
bfc6a9 No.14297123
>>14297113
Did you even understand my last post? There is no "damage control" because the only issue in the first place was your own moronic misinterpretation of what I said. This thread is going to get derailed if I get sucked into your whirlpool of retardation and keep arguing this point.
30689a No.14297139
>>14297123
If you don't see a problem with paying for cheats then you don't belong here. It doesn't matter how many verbose posts with no substance you make.
bfc6a9 No.14297152
>>14297139
>If you don't see a problem with paying for cheats
I understand you think that's what I said, but it's only because you're an idiot, not because I ever said that.
>It doesn't matter how many verbose posts with no substance you make.
>verbose
The last post was three brief sentences, I understand how that might be a little too much for you to handle.
c1a529 No.14297161
QUICK what should I do for Strange Journey, what route?
bfc6a9 No.14297163
c1a529 No.14297166
>>14297163
Really? Why's that?
b3756c No.14297170
>>14297166
I believe neutral is the hardest path.
30689a No.14297172
>>14297152
>The last post was three brief sentences
All as meaningless as others
>he pays for cheats
>he defends his good goy behavior
>for free
06607e No.14297173
>>14297161
Neutral is true ending, most bosses, hardest path
bfc6a9 No.14297183
>>14297170
>>14297166
Well, you have to fight two sub-bosses at a certain point when you'd only fight one otherwise, similar to something that happens in SMT1. I don't know about it necessarily being the hardest route, I think being in the middle gives you an advantage when negotiating with Law- and Chaos-aligned demons. If I remember correctly there are a few parts of the game where it's really hard to find a good Neutrally-aligned healer, and your alignment is a big deal in SJ.
00e226 No.14297190
Kind of off topic, but what was the SMT metroidvania(that looks a lot like the Konosuba game as well as Pharaoh Rebirth+) called?
c1a529 No.14297196
00e226 No.14297198
>>14297196
That's the one, thanks anon.
bfc6a9 No.14297207
>>14297172
I will spell this out for you as plainly as I can, one time. I was not defending paid cheats. I was not saying "what's different about the new one besides Atlus trying to nickel and dime its customers?" to appeal to anyone who was already okay with the way the current cheat system works. I was literally asking about the difference between the new system and the old system. The old system allowed you to enter codes to summon customized demons for the same macca penalty as summoning a demon from the compendium, and a few special demons which were only unlockable through passwords. I was asking if the new system was identical to the old system, but with micropayments, or if it was maybe some kind of SMTIV-style DLC. I was not asking this because I needed to budget a few dollars for these demons, it was purely out of curiosity. It didn't take me long to realize that it would have been easier to just look this up instead of asking in a thread. Even then I had no idea any frothing-at-the-mouth retard would take this much of an issue with a completely benign sentence, and I'm still amazed you were able to miss the point this fucking hard, even after I clarified myself twice.
06607e No.14297783
is there smirking in Redux? is it like 4/apocalypse or did they respect demon co-op
abee27 No.14297917
>>14297783
Just look up trailers and shit; it's blatantly using the demon co-op system. It seems like it's going to feel just about the same as before, just with nicer graphics and a little more content and shit.
>>14297183
>I think being in the middle gives you an advantage when negotiating with Law- and Chaos-aligned demons.
Not quite. When you become lawful or chaotic, demons of your alignment are easier to talk to and negotiate with, and opposing alignments ramp up their costs. All being neutral does is eliminate the positive and negative effects of having a far ended alignment. Demons that are already neutral won't care and won't change their negotiation strategies, regardless of your alignment.
There's a fuckton of really good neutral demons, though, and all the fiends are neutral. In the last rendition, however, the very strongest demon, demiurge, was lawful.
373021 No.14297937
>>14297190
>that looks a lot like the Konosuba game as well as Pharaoh Rebirth+
same dev
aeef0b No.14297952
I haven't even played the original SJ yet. I finished KMT, SMT1, and SMT2 a while back and moved onto TDE Nocturne Hard Mode but my emulator runs at like 20-40 frames which is playable although annoying to work with. Trying to go through the series chronologically here so I'll probably go back to finish Nocturne and base Strange Journey here sometime before the release of DSJ. Unfortunately the faggot translating If… (the game that comes in-between SMT2 and Nocturne) basically won't ever release it because he's a dick.
bc6fa0 No.14297964
>>14297937
Oh damn, I might check these out then, even though I'm not into Megaten and Konosuba.
Pharaoh Rebirth was pretty cool.
bfc6a9 No.14298618
>>14297917
Interesting, I just assumed Neutral negotiation had the same benefits when you're in the same alignment. It should have been obvious when the game said "It doesn't seem to care about your respective alignments".
b53ccb No.14298663
>>14296738
Talking about the soundtrack, will they fix the boss theme having 5 seconds of silence making the looping feel worse than it should?
06607e No.14299067
What's your favorite kaneko design, nu-/v/?
8c3038 No.14299280
>>14296660
>Gore's stache has turned into a black hole sucking up his face
Fitting, in a way.
bfc6a9 No.14299284
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>>14298663
Seems like it's fixed, check around the 14:00-14:15 mark. I don't really mind the changes to the UI either
>>14299067
Moirae sisters
69f883 No.14299885