3a93fb No.14246262
So how long till Microsoft wakes up and realizes that their attempt at forcing GFWL 2.0 making shit Windows 10 exclusive isn't going to work and port them to Windows 7?
So shit like:
Age of Empires I-III Definitively Fucked Editions
Age of Empires IV
Crackdown 3
Forza Horizon 3
Forza Motorsport 7
Halo Wars 2
and frankly any other title the retards come up with thinking Windows 10 will sell.
There's already been a few cases where they've realized that making these games Windows 10 only was retarded and have ported games like Quantum Break and Dead Rising 4 over to Windows 7. How braindead do they have to be to not understand nobody wants their shitty store?
775a91 No.14246279
I was going to say why you would want to play any of their games but then I realized I would actually play the Age of Empires remaster and Forza Horizon 3 if it was on Windows 7 even though history has taught me that any game that gets remastered is beyond shit
144fef No.14246315
>>14246279
You're not missing anything with forza horizon 3, and I haven't touched the AOE remake to tell.
Most of the faggots I have seen with windows 10 got a prebuilt with it or have integrated intel graphics. Intel completely dropped support for all versions of windows that aren't windows 10 in the beginning of 2017.
3359a3 No.14246359
>>14246279
>Spoiler
>MGS and DMC exist
You what?
3a93fb No.14246397
>>14246315
>Intel graphics
For what purpose?
c9c31e No.14246432
>want's to be taken seriously as a platform
>most of the games listed for windows 10 on their site are mobile games
>>14246315
>intel hd graphics
the only people who most likely will be using integrated graphics is people who literally don't know that GPU's exist or are using laptops that aren't running an amd cpu.
144fef No.14246442
>>14246397
>>14246432
Yeah, most of the "people" with intel hd graphics are 12 year olds who never touched anything other than league of legends, but they're a sizeable market.
3a93fb No.14246489
>>14246432
>>14246442
So as always it's a massive misread of the market
>Hey all these fags are playing toaster ASSFAGGOTS!
>I guess that means that we should develop games for that platform even though none of them actually play our games!
88e623 No.14246765
inb4 that gossip about MS planning to acquire EA, Valve and PUBG
ac7c93 No.14246780
>>14246765
I can't even imagine the levels of cancer that would bring about.
ff2d5c No.14246784
They know nobody wants their shitty store. It doesn't matter, you're going to get the store whether you like it or not. They're going to shove it down your throat until you like it.
d2f89d No.14246848
Any game on the xbone can be played on a win10 device anyways. The console is nothing more than a budget win10 gamebox with drm. They should just go the full step and make Xbox live a platform that works on pc and market the xb1 as a budget game pc. Letting people use m+kb and becoming a part of the pc community would be the best bet for their company at this point to turn a profit.
f63348 No.14246952
>>14246262
>port them to Windows 7?
Why would they do that? They're cutting Windows 7 support in less than 2 years anyway.
5f875e No.14246973
>getting windows 10.
i would rather buy a console than put windows 10 on my machine.
im drawing a line. windows 7 will be my last windows operating system.
144fef No.14246986
>>14246973
>i would rather buy a console than put windows 10 on my machine.
Why do retards say this?
Ever since consoles started having proper operating systems they got way worse than windows 10.
5f875e No.14247000
>>14246986
>defending nu-microsoft
>being this much of a nigger
i dont care if sony installs a shitty operating system on sonys shitty console but i absolutely care if you put a shitty operating system on my computer.
b8188c No.14247006
Actually MS is doing quite well. The majority of gamers are normalfags who are into online GaaS shit and unironically interested in gamer culture.
I hate everything Xbox stands for but its more in tune with the mainstream zeitgeist than my lolicon weebshit.
06ac0f No.14247130
Why do you dumb faggots stick with 7. If you care about >muh privacy then install GNU/Linux, and if you want to play games with Microsoft dick in your ass then just use 10 LTSB. It's the same piece of shit 7 is but with more modern support.
144fef No.14247173
>>14247130
The only thing I want in life is a windows pdf reader that isn't bottom of the barrel garbage and lets you make the text white and the background black, that way I can pretend I'm working while I'm actually reading a japanese writing about an 11 year old losing his virginity to his 8 year old step sister.
a7773d No.14247183
>>14246986
>Ever since consoles started having proper operating systems they got way worse than windows 10.
what do you think you do on consoles? You know they aren't a replacement for PCs.
5d4cdc No.14247198
>>14247000
That still doesn't explain what you said
>windows 10 is such a piece of shit, I'd rather buy an even bigger piece of shit and use that
a7773d No.14247217
>>14247198
explain how the other is an even bigger piece of shit
ec2598 No.14247220
>>14247006
>Actually MS is doing quite well
They're not. They are failing at every endeavor and have been for years.
5f875e No.14247293
>>14247198
>>windows 10 is such a piece of shit, I'd rather buy an even bigger piece of shit and use that
are you some kind of retard that buys a computer from dell with a preinstalled OS? how is this complicated?
the ps4/nintendo software may suck, but atleast its not ON MY PC.
a7773d No.14247297
>>14247293
I can't even process how such a stupid statement can be justified but I'm sitting here waiting for him to explain himself
5f875e No.14247359
>>14247297
he probably has windows 10 and uses internet explorer or google chrome and cant comprehend other options. he probably has steam, uplay, origin, and whatever the fuck else is out there now. he probably has weatherbug and bonzibuddy too.
i wonder if he has a faceberg or twitter.
it amazes me how retards like that find their way to this site.
you think he has winrar professional? fuck, he probably has winzip, symantec, and paid for office. i wonder if he has subscriptions to porn, or paid for a bittorrent client.
ec2598 No.14247378
>>14247359
Anon, that's enough, you'll kill the guy.
144fef No.14247393
>>14247359
>paid for office
Reminds me of how my parents made me buy a bunch of office copies in the name of their company so they could have it on their computers.
Instead I banked the money and installed libreoffice, then I told them it was the patriotic american version of office that prizes freedom. They didn't question it, or "libre" being spanish.
d7bc28 No.14247394
>>14247359
>paid for a bittorrent client.
Wait, that exists?
15dc61 No.14247395
>>14247359
I didn't even know you could become someone this amazing in just a couple of posts. Please make a thread on /tech/ right now, I want to see this.
ec2598 No.14247401
>>14247393
But Spanish will be the official language of the US in the next 10 to 20 years.
f63348 No.14247407
>>14247393
>jewing your own parents
088743 No.14247411
>>14247393
>jewing your family
Even the Jews draw the line there.
472eb3 No.14247415
Guys, Windows 10 really isn't bad. Its a solid OS and just werkz for what I need it to do. As far as usability is concerned you sacrifice absolutely nothing by going Windows 10
Tell me why I should care about your autism, show me de wey. And don't post anything made by 4/g/ and /tech/ by doing it because those retards think literally everything is a botnet unless its a computer running Linux from Scratch on an ancient MIPS machine unplugged from the internet
a7773d No.14247418
>>14247359
this is too mean of a post
ec2598 No.14247420
>>14247415
Since you're a nigger there is absolutely no reason you shouldn't be using W10.
472eb3 No.14247431
15dc61 No.14247455
>>14247415
>literally everything is a botnet unless its a computer running Linux from Scratch on an ancient MIPS machine unplugged from the internet
Now that's just straight out wrong. I'm fairly certain that first editions of N-Gage had no botnets included, probably.
472eb3 No.14247478
>>14247455
>N-Gage
>Proto-Smartphone
BOTNET!
that's those retards logic basically
15dc61 No.14247483
>>14247478
you need more ARM architecture in your life
144fef No.14247486
>>14247455
Fuck off, CIA-Nigger.
472eb3 No.14247493
>>14247483
>ARM
>Speculative Execution
>Each individual ARM core is an IP core
BOTNET
I can do this all day. Those cringelords find a reason to call anything botnet
5d4cdc No.14247495
>>14247293
You literally said
>i would rather buy a console than put windows 10 on my machine
so clearly the consoles sucking would affect you, and then in addition, whatever your OS of choice is, that one sucking would affect you as well. And they all suck, W7 sucks, XP sucks, Linux sucks too. W10 sucks more than W7 for sure, but then again it's not an astronomical change once you spend like 1-2 days removing the bloat and restoring W7 settings.
f11328 No.14247569
76e767 No.14248744
3efd2c No.14248769
>>14247130
10 is considerably slower then 7 for one thing, I just got a laptop from best buy with better hardware then my toaster, and I click on things and have to wait for them to appear which dosnt happen in win7
>>14247415
472eb3 No.14248939
>>14248769
>10 is considerably slower then 7 for one thing, I just got a laptop from best buy with better hardware then my toaster, and I click on things and have to wait for them to appear which dosnt happen in win7
I don't believe your anecdotes, my assertions are just as correct as yours unless you provide evidence otherwise is just baseless claim
Did you bother defragging?
4e8e49 No.14248984
>>14247495
>once you remove the bloat
>win10
The biggest problems are the cancereous UI and GUI, which can't be changed easily, the fact that it requires a base 2 gigabytes of ram to run, as opposed to win7's 512ram, the GODDAMN SPYWARE that keeps attempting to circumvent any attempt at removal through updates that void any kind of blocks outside of cutting off the system entirely from accesing the Internet and the fact that it's deliberately doing this in the first place.
It runs slower, too, even at the barest minimum where you remove 90% of the "new features", than base win7 on classic mode with Aero disabled.
>Linux sucks
>XP sucks
>Win10 sucks but it's not an "astronomical change" once you spend around 48 hours unfucking it
You're fucking retarded if you think XP sucks when even the FBI still uses it because it's safer than anything after it with user patches that remove windows shitty backdoors and the unofficial SP4.
>Dissing linux despite being one of the most user-friendly and diverse OSes that you could ever get
>With a shitload of different distributions that cater to different tastes and utilities entirely
If you can't bother to learn something new or if you happened to fall for the Arch meme, sure it would suck, but then you'd have bigger problems once micro$hit stars buttfucking you in the ass with Cortana and telemetry sending all your data to islamists and israelite hitmen or outright starts blackmailing you into paying them.
a948ab No.14249020
>>14246848
>They should just go the full step and make Xbox live a platform that works on pc and market the xb1 as a budget game
Piracy and hackers. No.
>Letting people use m+kb
You can already own normalfags with XIM. If everyone could use m+kb who would you be owning then?
08e35a No.14249056
>>14249020
>piracy and hackers
Something Microsoft already deals with and those factors don't hurt PC gaming as much as publishers want you to think
6966af No.14249090
Any linux distros that clone Win XP or 95's UI?
Preferably while also not being from that time period
a948ab No.14249095
>>14249056
Why you want to deal with piracy and hacking at all when xbone already puts full stop on them?
6966af No.14249110
>>14249090
Or I suppose some form of linux file? that clones the UI over some distro? The only linux I ever fucked around with was Lubuntu so I could Get a digital penguimp for Team fortress 2
08e35a No.14249138
>>14249095
>xb1
>stops piracy
Say that to my xb1 with 1 tb of 360 and Xbox original games and my customized cortana
f9c5f1 No.14249573
>>14248984
>if you happened to fall for the Arch meme
Pray tell, what is wrong with arch?
Do you have something against rolling release distros, or is it because it doesn't come feature complete out of the box?
48f334 No.14249622
>>14246262
I refuse to use Windows 10. No matter what, 7 is my last Windows. I can live without new games. Hell, if I really want to play them, I would rather get a used console. That way I can play the games and still have a functional computer. And if piracy isn't available, I can get physical copies of games, that I can resell later if I want to.
Honestly, I don't care for PC gaming that much nowadays. Recent games are all made for console anyway, so I kinda regret buying this expensive PC when I could just use an old machine (running some light distro and probably XP as well) for emulators and old PC games. A used (even if it isn't all that cheap, because fuck Sony) PS4 might have been a better deal (and I could play the exclusives).
>>14247359
That's some brutal shit.
311287 No.14249648
>>14246489
>ASSFAGGOTS
What game is that?
311287 No.14249665
>>14249661
Just answer already
469ece No.14249731
>>14247415
Everything IS a botnet anon. The trick is accepting that and understanding how it impacts you. Removing the botnets and spying from any modern tech is impossible. It's designed that way now. You can mitigate it, but you cannot stop it.
48f334 No.14249743
>>14249665
It's a gay eroge with a focus on fart fetish shit. Everyone knows about it, you're just new.
>>14249682
Nintendo is shit and Mark is a faggot with a cardboard fetish. Call the fucking press. Is it even possible to be in moderation without being a massive fucking faggot?
73dc68 No.14249757
>>14249648
ASSFAGGOTS stands for "anons stacking supremely fresh anal gore gone on the sides", it's a very obscure weebshit fetish.
09d4db No.14249782
>>14249110
>>14249090
>95
you could do this relatively easy with anything, there's a bunch of window managers with themes that mimic 95
windows xp is a different story, just searching "linux desktop manager xp theme" and the first result I got on startpage was a thorough set of steps for almost a 1:1 replication of xp's theme in ubuntu
>>14249573
as someone who actually uses Arch, it has become a severe pain in the ass
I actually just had trouble with a full update because for some reason I had ffmpeg0.10 installed, from AUR I guess but why I have no idea, which prevented updating because of a dependency conflict between libx264 versions, so I had to uninstall ffmpeg0.10 to update and now I'll have to reinstall it for whatever it might have been a dependency for
and practically every update now it pesters the user about replacing package X with package Y
aside from that I've rarely had things break on me
7b65ba No.14249849
>>14247411
>>14247407
>jewing your parents
implying he didn't save them from the microjew
b46e67 No.14249920
>>14246262
>tell friend not to get Win 10
>"NUH UH, it's free and I want it!"
>fast forward a few months
>cries about getting frequent system crashes and patches that take forever to install
>still no good game that is Win10 exclusive
>"flat design" still looks like total shit, like something straight from a smartphone
The sad thing is that M$ is fully willing to go into red numbers with this, hoping to gain enough normalfags on their shitty OS and teach them to use their store for everything. They're trying to learn some jewish tricks from Apple, but do not have trendy gadgets to gouge hipsters on, so they're instead trying to build a walled garden. It won't work, Microsoft will likely double down on it repeatedly anyway, until it goes bankrupt, and then we'll be in a hellish reality where there is no microsoft… and everyone uses and develops games for a fucking mac
73dc68 No.14249933
>>14249920
>own 95% of the market share
>we should emulate that other 5%!
e65947 No.14249941
>>14246262
I want to stick my penis inside windows 10
b46e67 No.14249948
>>14249933
They dislike the fact that you don't buy an OS too often, and that many are fully content to run an XP machine rather than line up to buy their newest abortion. They might have a dominant position on the market, but they are failing to monetise it – they aren't charging monthly subscriptions and they don't have users buying other MS products. Compare it with Apple where they release a shitty phone and retards line up to buy it along with a gorillion overpriced accessories
b246e9 No.14249952
>>14249933
Dont worry, Windows will assimilate them in due time
70f51c No.14249953
>>14246262
With enough time and pressure even shit turns into diamond hard cancer.
c9c52b No.14249955
Fuck it, I'm seriously thinking of going back to Windows 7, because 10 is a bug-ridden piece of shit.
70f51c No.14249957
>>14249955
You should go back.
73dc68 No.14250264
>>14249955
I used 10 to evaluate how works for the end user and you should definitely go back to 7. Everything simply has better compatibility and it's a full desktop environment. 10 feels likely such a hackneyed attempt to capture both the tablet and desktop user without really giving either of them the option to choose between full tablet or desktop interface; too much of it is arbitrarily either tablet kid buttons or desktop explorer.
5beeb4 No.14250376
>>14247293
>the ps4/nintendo software may suck, but atleast its not ON MY COMPUTER!
8fe293 No.14250700
>>14246262
Your waifu is a pig disgusting proprietary botnet
2916b0 No.14251291
>>14249920
Oh man classes have been hilarious since people switched to win10
>Before all this, I was one of 3 or so neckbeards using anything but iOS or win
>"Man how can you do this, you like have to mount your USB Stick, my shit just werks"
>win10 rolls around
>now without fail every class you can see laptops cucking their owners and rebooting mid task or even starting with it right when they get booted up taking up to 40 minutes
88e623 No.14251312
ad025e No.14251315
Why the fuck would Microsoft support a platform that they're trying to drive obsolete? They're not gonna port these games to Windows 7 just because a couple of fat autists want them
575243 No.14251375
I moved to windows 10 because I wanted FH3 that bad. I'm also smart enough to disable all the telemetry and tracking bullshit. I gotta hand it to them it's pretty fucking quick, but I'll never like the new start menu that was obviously designed for tablets.
ec2598 No.14251389
>>14251315
Because MS is run by a stupid currynigger.
144fef No.14251397
>>14251375
Thank you for advertising for our company, Raj.
May our lord and savior Bill Gates grace you with one extra working our in which windows 10 won't forcibly shut down your computer to update.
d0ae9f No.14251438
Ultimately I think the biggest problem with W10 is Microsoft's complete inability to support their own product - if you go check their official support most answers people get about problems they have with W10 is somewhere in-between 'have you tried doing a clean re-install' and 'we're sorry'. Simply put, it's fucking abyssmal when they can't even help you with the product they themselves made.
eefaf7 No.14251455
>there are anons RIGHT NOW using WINDOWS 10
6cb22c No.14251465
>>14247198
Consoles are meant for playing fucking games, if you want the uses and programs of a computer you get a fucking computer. Who the fuck actually cares about a video game console OS "being shittier" than a computer's, they have different fucking purposes, unironically kill yourself no wonder why this place went to shit with peanut brains like you.
144fef No.14251468
>>14251455
>there are anons RIGHT NOW using WINDOWS
1245fc No.14251475
I'm using win10 because my motherboard doesn't support anything lower without me having to jump through hoops. You can just use tools like pic related to disable all the spyware and other shit
8fe293 No.14251478
>>14251438
>Simply put, it's fucking abyssmal when they can't even help you with the product they themselves made.
Geeh I wonder why
6af37a No.14251482
>>14246262
>and port them to Windows 7?
Haha, that's cute that you think Microsoft would be capable of doing that even if they wanted to. You don't seem to understand how much of a clusterfuck Windows is and how much difficulty Microsoft itself has in controlling it.
ec2598 No.14251486
>>14251438
It's mostly because no one has any fucking idea what all the spaghetti code they have does, and any and all fixes require ungodly amounts of rewriting of code, which then inevitably fucks up something else.
144fef No.14251490
>>14251475
>closed source
It just installs more botnet lmao.
c64465 No.14251507
>>14246262
Exclusives for Windows are going to non-existant unless Microsoft themselves make it. Nu-Doom sealed this fate by demostrating vulkan can meet and possibly outdo Dx12 - the only shakles microsoft has. The OS is becomming irrelevant for gaming.
>>14251475
>It ships broken
>Don't worry mods tools will fix it.
6cb22c No.14251511
>>14251475
Then get a new motherboard you fucking homo.
eefaf7 No.14251524
>>14251475
get a less shitty motherboard, you double nigger faggot.
>>14251468
>not using penguin os for shitposting and Madobe Nanami for playing vidya
99790b No.14251551
>So how long till Microsoft wakes up and realizes that their attempt at forcing GFWL 2.0 making shit Windows 10 exclusive isn't going to work and port them to Windows 7?
The reason why Microsoft is making them Windows 10 exclusive is to get more people to use Windows 10, not to sell games.
Third party devs will probably take some Microsoft money and make it (possibly temporary) Windows 10 exclusive.
>>14246279
Both the AoM and AoE2 remakes were poor. The only thing it has going for it is a more alive online.
2737a2 No.14251555
Are ubuntu forks still acceptable or are they no longer /tech/ approved?
6cb22c No.14251568
>>14251555
Install Slackware, Arch, or Gentoo.
2737a2 No.14251579
>>14251568
You don't have to be an asshole about it.
f3da0b No.14251601
>>14251555
I'd just go with Xubuntu and ignore the autism if you're new to Linux.
Ubuntu is the normalfag distro, but this also means that it is the easiest one to find answers for all the little issues you might run into. There is more than enough time to turn into a botnet-screeching sperg once you've gotten a bit more familiar with the whole thing.
2737a2 No.14251630
>>14251601
Thanks. I actually used to use Mint but I think I used the wrong "flavor" for it because the UI was an eyesore.
36d86e No.14251666
>>14251455
Makes one want to scrub the world.
36d86e No.14251777
>>14246262
The Win 10 anime girl should be a strung out, bloated wreck with flies around her head, a gammy leg and ideally sporting 6 cameras around her neck like a jap tourist from the 80s to symbolise all the spying she does.
36d86e No.14251796
>>14251777
>>14251666
Checking my own double trips
4c929f No.14251836
>>14251796
>checking your own digits
8daba3 No.14252131
>>14249920
>and everyone uses and develops games for a fucking mac
as if
they will be developed for iOS
311287 No.14252489
>>14248939
>Did you bother defragging?
It's like we're in the 90s again!
5ad1ac No.14252499
>>14252131
>iOS
>not TempleOS
311287 No.14252522
>>14249648
Bumping for an answer
56193c No.14252727
so how do i do that there graphics passthrough stuff? is that good enough that i can ditch windows? honestly the user friendly linux distros run and feel better than windows at this point
ce2253 No.14252797
>>14252727
>so how do i do that there graphics passthrough stuff?
Neckbeard magic. Ask /tech/
If you try it i hope you are ready to spend the next week making your computer shit itself at boot, and then when it finally boots, you will realize you can't do shit without making a lot of scripts that basically act as antirejection drugs to keep windows running on its zombie state.
Oh and you will also need to have a separate network card, usb hub, and related perhiperals to donate to the guest OS unless you want to constantly edit said scripts
366cbf No.14252830
>>14252727
It's actually pretty simple. You don't even need a second GPU and can ssh into your host machine if you have to. Running windows in a VM is how it should be, it's so simple to manage it this way.
You should youtube pcie passthrough.
cd4663 No.14253188
>>14252727
>so how do i do that there graphics passthrough stuff?
depends on your shitty cpu and motherboard
52ba19 No.14253239
>Age of Empires I-III Definitively Fucked Editions
>Age of Empires IV
>Crackdown 3
>Forza Horizon 3
>Forza Motorsport 7
>Halo Wars 2
First they'd have to make games that are actually worth playing.
1d965b No.14253300
I think the worst thing is it will probably mean more shitty remasters because of how broken backward compatibility is on 10.
<just like run a virtual machine lol
Just like get a rope and hang yourself.
4616aa No.14253320
>>14246262
Wew this whole thread
Anyone with a little knowlege and selfrespect wont use W10
Because is bad in many many ways
M$ will push W10 as far as they can, but when W7 is no longer an option im sure an alternative will be already in existence
d92f02 No.14253325
>>14253320
>I'm sure an alternative will already be in existance
If by that team linux actually supports most of the games i want to play and or applications,i'll definitely switch
deciding on distro will be a cunt though
bdbb5d No.14253336
>>14253325
I just want a linux distro that's ubuntu but without judaism and poetteringware.
Essentially something for non-autists who don't want to spend more time using their distro than using it, and something that's not a windows-tier nonworking gaping security hole.
bdbb5d No.14253338
>>14253336
<more time using their distro than using it
Should be:
>more time tweaking their distro than using it
d92f02 No.14253349
>>14253336
What's wrong with ubuntu? i don't know much about the distros
c59f9a No.14253435
>>14246262
The big problem with Win10 is its store. I have Gears 4 on xbone and I've never managed to download the PC version, it always stops or restart the dl from the beginning. Given how the game is now more than 100 gigs I'll keep the one version, I'll never be able to play the campaign at a better framerate.
cd4663 No.14253442
b302ef No.14253487
>>14246262
>So how long till Microsoft wakes up and realizes that their attempt at forcing GFWL 2.0 making shit Windows 10 exclusive isn't going to work and port them to Windows 7?
How is it different from Microsoft pushing their market platform when faggots willingly install origin and steam to play the platform exclusive games?
cb4b77 No.14253541
>>14252727
It ultimately depends on your hardware, but if you have a CPU and motherboard that supports it it's fairly simple assuming you know your way around Linux and KVM
But honesty wine works pretty well, and dual booting is simple
09d4db No.14254052
>>14253349
>ubuntu
<amazon spyware and continually taking freedom away from the user to customize their desktop
otherwise it's decent enough, but lubuntu/xubuntu are highly preferable over plain ubuntu
linux mint used to be recommended frequently, but their site being hijacked at least once makes me less confident in it (linux mint is just ubuntu with lots of non-free software so everything just werks)
>arch linux
<took a step backwards and raised the bar of entry by removing the installer UI that debian has
<as I've found out, AUR packages may conflict with packages installed through official repos
<many things may not work out of the box
on the bright side, between the arch wiki and forum there's not many problems that can't be solved, and the AUR is very handy when you need something that isn't supplied by the official repo
>gentoo
<depending on the hardware you have, you could spend a literal week compiling and configuring your kernel
<then another week compiling all the software you need to make a working desktop
<you WILL spend a long time learning how to properly configure the system, and god help you if you miss a step
on the bright side, you can forbid certain packages from being installed as dependencies (like pulseaudio and systemd)
highly recommended that you check for updates frequently, and once you have a working system configured to your liking you should absolutely back it up because you do not want to go through the previous hell if your hard drive dies
everything else is pretty much a meme distro or only useful for very specific cases (like puppylinux, so you can run linux at work without installing it on any computer and pissing off your boss)
89cf76 No.14254068
>>14254052
>like puppylinux
Doesn't every distro have the option to make a persistent memory live usb?
cd4663 No.14254073
>>14254052
>amazon spyware
whut?
043372 No.14254127
windows 10 is awful, performance improvements from windows 7 are non existant. So what you're left with is an objectively worse UI, it's harder to use and get used to than windows 7. On top of that you had the whole debate about windows 10 being spyware since it would send data. I don't know much about it since I never considered upgrading and my windows 7 is pirated and never updates anything anyway.
d92f02 No.14254134
>>14254052
Well shit,none of those sound appealing,guess a decent linux distro with no downsounds has yet to come.
ce2253 No.14254139
>>14254052
why do you keep bringing in the amazon shit when it has been disabled by default or not even included for many years now?
4a172b No.14254145
>>14247411
They don't, actually.
89cf76 No.14254190
>>14254139
Because anonymous never forgets.
7c3065 No.14254207
Anyone using LTSB (Long Term Stable Branch) here? It's the corporate version of Windows 10, which receives no "feature" updates or bloatware, only security updates. Apparently it's easy to pirate and disable telemetry as well. It's the only thing making me consider moving off of Windows 7.
09d4db No.14254210
>>14254068
puppylinux is the only one I know of that is a fully functional system packed into an iso and lightweight enough to run on practically anything, I keep at least one flash drive with it for long nights are work when I'm bored
there's DamnSmallLinux but that's a lot less useful out of the box
>>14254073
https://www.gnu.org/philosophy/ubuntu-spyware.en.html
>>14254139
>many years
I have no concept of time, I can't differentiate many years from last month.
>>14254134
I use both arch linux and gentoo regularly, and if you honestly want to use linux, try xubuntu. It's requires a bare minimum of involvement from you to keep it working while giving you the most option.
There are always going to be downsides to every distro, just as the downside to using windows is getting fucked in the ass by microsoft and subscription anti-virus.
>>14254127
Remember how shills were boasting the faster boot times of win10?
Yeah I knew they were using some fuckery with that, when I realized the F8 boot menu was no longer accessible during startup I immediately knew they were full of shit, the system once started never completely shuts down, it might terminate running programs but it always goes into a standy-by/hibernate sleep instead of shutting down, that's why you can never boot into safe mode without enabling the option before shutting down, so it adds the safe boot flag to the hibernation image.
cb4b77 No.14254236
>>14254207
It's literally the same thing just stripped down. If you're gonna use windows like a faggot Win 10 LTSB is the way to go
5d2da0 No.14254248
>>14254210
Where's the dedicated /tech/ picture for installing the recommended distros.
7c3065 No.14254257
>>14254236
I meant in comparison to 7, obviously LTSB is better than vanilla 10.
09d4db No.14254275
5d2da0 No.14254304
>>14254275
Something like that but listed from good to bad with their pros and cons.
b68148 No.14254312
>>14254236
Win 10 Education also includes all GPOs as well so you can disable even more shit.
I just block MS domains on my pfsense router instead
ef8de8 No.14254377
>>14246784
>They're going to shove it down your throat until you like it.
kinky
48f334 No.14254381
>>14254210
Removing Windows 10 can be a pain in the ass because of all these new "safety features". People brought me quite a few shitty computers to fix since this piece of shit OS came out. One of them couldn't be fixed because the retard that gave it to me dropped the damn thing and the screen doesn't work anymore, and the only way to disassemble it seems to be bashing it with a hammer. Never failed to do this before (probably because I haven't done this in a long time, and it used to be easy as shit), but that computer is just a solid piece of plastic, with a few screws here and there that only exist so that you're tricked into believing that you can take it apart. Anyway, the point is that I can't remove Windows 10 from the machine because none of the shit that worked before is working now. It's a goddamn HP laptop (I am still astounded that someone could still be stupid enough to buy one of these), and they seem to have added another layer of "safety" that I haven't figured out yet because I just didn't bother trying for more than 10 minutes (every attempt results in a reboot, and it's slower than fuck, and every window takes forever to load), since I don't even have to return this computer, because it's just that unbelievably fucked up.
Basically, fuck computers. They are ruined forever, and I blame kikes, women and niggers. I get pissed just thinking about current year technology. Now I need another drink so I can die faster.
64a62d No.14254391
>>14251551
I heard the AoM remake has shit netcode which craps itself in ways the original never did. Verdict seems to be that the online community is worse than it was for the classics. There is a very strong impression that the AoM remake was done by con artists who feel smug about deliberately shitting out low quality work and making money off of it. The comments the developers made sounded like they were intentionally introducing bugs into the game because they looked at it as an opportunity to advertise "major improvements" in the game later on or shit. They are seriously terrible hacks and the game is generally unstable now, from what I've heard. Also the remake's AoM expansion is complete fucking absolute dogshit major-league cancer trash.
Avoid like the plague and play the original. It runs much better and doesn't have any of the gameplay "improvements" these idiots implemented.
09d4db No.14254622
>>14254381
believe me I know your pain, after just getting a few computers to un-botnet after win10 spread like fucking AIDS, I was pretty much sick of doing computer repair. Between UEFI & safeboot bullshit making it so complicated to boot ANYTHING other than "LICENSED MS OPERATING SYSTEMS", clients who couldn't even remember their own login password, to clients that had their login tied to a fucking hotmail account so you literally cannot bypass their password (imagine not being able to use your fucking operating system because it has ALWAYS ONLINE DRM, IT'S A FUCKING REALITY), and even clients who have accidentally locked themselves out of a system permanently by ACCIDENTALLY setting a boot, bios, AND HDD password.
I honestly believe that the advent of graphical user interfaces marked the downfall of computing. The bar to entry was set so fucking low that any attempt to make it more accommodating actually takes away convenience.
I figured out that most shit I want to get done can be done without graphical interfaces, but like with web browsing so many websites are building everything on scripts that you cannot view the site without fucking javascript.
The only fucking thing a graphical user interface should be needed for is graphic design and video games.
cd4663 No.14254666
>>14254381
>It's a goddamn HP laptop (I am still astounded that someone could still be stupid enough to buy one of these)
>mfw bought 3 HP laptops so far and they just works
>last one had windows 10
>cant install win 7 because huurr duurr its an intel 7 generation
>installed mint cinnamon in it because fuck that shit
>use it to shitpost
>the oldest one is also running mint cinnamon and gave it to my mum
>the second one its on win7 so i can run my japanese porn games like god intended
feels good
42c662 No.14254672
>>14254666
>cant install win 7 because huurr duurr its an intel 7 generation
But that's wrong Satan. I'm on win7 with intel 7th gen right now.
cd4663 No.14254676
>>14254672
>I'm on win7 with intel 7th gen right now.
>current year + 3
>lying to satan
thats sinful, anon-kun.
998264 No.14254708
>>14249782
>that pic
Isn't that that psycho who shot a bunch of innocent people?
cd4663 No.14254713
>>14254700
i call bullshit, but i believe it.
09d4db No.14254717
>>14254708
no that's the kid from the movie Chronicle where 3 best buds all get telekinesis and do whacky shit until that little turd turns to the dark side because he listens to marilyn manson
42c662 No.14254720
>>14254713
The joys of a pirate win7.
51aa1c No.14254722
>>14249920
Your friend would appear to be clinically retarded.
51aa1c No.14254724
>>14251291
Again more clinical retardation.
If your shit is crashing in Win10 you've fucked up.
48f334 No.14254758
>>14254622
Your mention of Hotmail reminds me that I lost all of my old emails because I refuse to give Microsoft my cellphone number (that I don't even have, because I don't fucking own one), or some bullshit like that.
>I figured out that most shit I want to get done can be done without graphical interfaces, but like with web browsing so many websites are building everything on scripts that you cannot view the site without fucking javascript.
I hate the internet as well. Holy shit, everything is so bad, it's fucking unbelievable when you go back to some older websites (or the really uncommon recent but competently made ones) that are still up (do that if you haven't, because it will make you even angrier, in fact, do the same thing with OSs). They have pages with enormous amounts of information and everything loads instantly, including the images, because future internet is faster, somehow.
Efficiency isn't even considered a factor when making anything today. Everything seems to be developed with the intent of using the entirely of your hardware's capabilities. Those retards seem to think that the higher the hardware requirements are for something to work, the better it is. Consumerism taken to its most extreme. And of course, other than the fact that they are slower than fuck and that the layouts are trash, I even despise the way that current year websites look, or anything else, really.
>I honestly believe that the advent of graphical user interfaces marked the downfall of computing
Even decently competent people like me were screwed over by that, because they would probably be more skilled if things didn't go in that direction. Fuck nigger technology.
>>14254666
>bought 3 HP laptops so far and they just works
Why?
>>14254722
So retarded that he doesn't even know that every Windows is always free.
998264 No.14254790
>>14254717
Oh, my bad. Thought it was that roof kid.
09d4db No.14254803
>>14254758
Yeah, not only did it fuck up computers for hobbyists, but jobs too. Really fucked over everyone competent enough to read a fucking manual and spend time becoming proficient at using software by making the software do most of the work, all anybody needs to do is type away and the thinking is all done for them. Don't even have to worry about SAVING now, programs take periodic backups of everything so nobody gets fucked over by a system crash, because it was easier for microsoft to make the software save periodically instead of fixing the fucking system crashes.
Nobody gives a shit if you can use a command line interface now, and ignorant fucks all go "WHOA DUDE ARE U A HACKER? WHERE CAN I DOWNLOAD THE NEW STAR WARS MOVIE Xddddd"
god fucking damn it, and computer clubs are just as fucking bad, except the clubs are full of white haired boomers who ask you how to fix their email, last time I talked to anyone remotely competent about computers was at a linux user group that's way too much of a trek to be worth the drive
14168d No.14254924
>playing ((games)) with friends
>two of them suddenly stop responding
>eventually they time out
>both come back minutes later
>"lol sorry windows update"
>raiding in FFXIV
>"FUCKING WINDOWS UPDATE STOP MINIMIZING MY GAME"
>mfw I'm still on Windows 7
fbabd6 No.14254958
>>14254924
>mfw used a hex editor to break windows updater so win10-chan can never take my win7 away.
2bf65b No.14254983
>>14254924
>two of them suddenly stop responding
>eventually they time out
>both come back minutes later
51aa1c No.14255057
>>14254803
I work with a lot of boomers that have to use AS400 it is interesting because the developers decided to shove options literally fucking everywhere. Never before have I seen such bloat in a text fucking interface.
51aa1c No.14255061
>>14254924
>Lying on the internet
Why?
b634af No.14255084
is this the designated fuck W10 thread?
because i want to rant about what happened when i built my new computer:
>plan a fuck you w10 build
>i5 6600k
>z170-PRO
>rx 580 8gb
>searching for drivers for w7
<intel doesn't provide drivers for that cpu lol
>okay, let's try w8.1 then
<amd won't release drivers for that OS
<FUCK YOU
so now i'm stuck on w10 because fuck me, i was sure i wouldn't have this kind of jewry
at least i didn't give any shekels to cuckedhardware
472eb3 No.14255085
Help me guys I'm totally getting Jewed my computer is always slow and is always crashing and there's an NSA van parked across the street from my house guys!
lmao, faggots
15dc61 No.14255334
>>14255085
>running botnets on your system
I bet you're mining buttcoins for shlomo right now
5beeb4 No.14255403
>>14255334
>I bet you're mining buttcoins for shlomo right now
But anon, how else is the government supposed to make money?
09d4db No.14255599
>>14255085
>intel core i7 @2.6GHz
>overclock amd phenom II x4 to 3.5GHz safely without needing better cooling, stock clock is still 3GHz
>newer hardware is slower than hardware I've had for over 5 years
man why even bother?
f5e846 No.14255608
>>14255599
>clockspeed == performance
how's the 90s treating you anon?
fe2fa4 No.14255613
>>14248939
>Did you bother defragging?
Only on Windows™
f63348 No.14255676
>>14254052
>everything else is pretty much a meme distro
>Debian
>Fedora
>Slackware
>meme distros
end yourself
8ae9d7 No.14255690
>>14246986
you're a stupid one huh?
a643b0 No.14255720
>>14255599
>thinks ghz is a measurement for processor speed
This the average Linux supporter itt
19ad80 No.14255728
>>14255676
for real. slackware, debian, and fedora/redhat have been around for a long time and have tons of support, of those three i've only actually used slackware but it worked fine out of the box, videocard drivers installed easily, had very few issues.
>ubuntu is srs guys, but debian is a meme
ubuntu is normalfag-friendly fork of debian
>arch is srs guys, but slack is a meme
arch originally a fork of slackware
can't make this shit up.
ef8de8 No.14255729
>>14254790
>niggers
>innocent
gb2 reddit
8c1591 No.14255784
>>14255720
>>14255608
Now that I think about it, processors never come with a performance measurement in the box, right? It's always
>OUR STUFF™ IS BETTER THAN THE OTHERS
6e42ed No.14255975
>yfw Linux is going to be able to run w10 games better than w10 itself within months
>since microshit is too retarded to allow people to play their games on w7 everyone is going to get linux
>this will finally trigger the prophecy of the year of desktop linux
bb158e No.14256077
>>14255975
Guess why kike companies like Redhat have been trying to corner the market and why Microkike wanted to start investing in linux.
Embrace
Extend
Extinguish
f63348 No.14256093
>>14255975
>he still believes in the year of linux desktop in the current year
>being this delusional
ad1560 No.14256140
I only want year of the Linux desktop if it can also be year of the beige CRT
7e22fe No.14256147
>not running 64-bit Windows 98
It's like you all hate vidya.
b73b7b No.14256152
>>14255975
>>since microshit is too retarded to allow people to play their games on w7 everyone is going to get linux
>everyone is going to Linux because of some w10 exclusives that are hot garbage in the first place
Anon please don't kid yourself.
09d4db No.14256241
>>14255608
I never equated clockspeed to performance.
>>14255720
>clockspeed isn't the processor speed
Maybe you should be explaining yourself here, how are YOU measuring processor speed, in miles per hour?
>>14255728
Honestly I haven't heard of slackware, fedora or redhat in so long I forget they existed. If a noob is going to try linux that may as well ignore debian and go straight for ubuntu, they'll end up with systemd and pusleaudio anyway by the time they're done installing debian so they may as well skip the extra steps entirely.
>>14255784
Yes, they throw a few benchmarks in your face but benchmarks are ultimately useless if you don't have an equivalent system built, you never know what bottlenecks you will have compared to the system that ran those benchmarks. At any rate the only metric I look at now is how many serious exploits were found months later, and intel is really dropping their spaghetti with this.
a643b0 No.14256270
>>14256241
>Maybe you should be explaining yourself here, how are YOU measuring processor speed, in miles per hour?
>>14256241
>Maybe you should be explaining yourself here, how are YOU measuring processor speed, in miles per hour?
Yeah I phrased that wrong, but you get the point. Clockspeed is not a direct indicative of a processor's performance.
ec2598 No.14256272
>>14256152
What happens when MS stops supporting W7? They don't seem intent on giving up on W10.
a643b0 No.14256305
>>14256272
Community patches, also you will basically scavenge compatible hardware until the performance gap is so big you will pretty much be forced to upgrade.
14168d No.14256404
>>14255061
Where's the lie you retard
ad1560 No.14256433
>>14256152
Upgrade to Linux you mean?
The year of the Linux desktop will only happen once it's virtually impossible to use Windows 7.
267184 No.14260245
>>14256062
kek
this fam is shit
db7b68 No.14260313
Daily reminder that win 7 was shit on just as much as 10 back in the day. XP 4 lyfe
4c7a7a No.14260339
>>14255720
what's green hill zone got to do with this
56193c No.14260345
98a6ce No.14260349
>>14260345
It was, but when people realized it wasn't that bad once you stuck the classic theme on it and ditched all of the other new shit the stigma just disappeared.
db7b68 No.14260512
>>14260349
The cycle will continue and you know it
b634af No.14260562
>>14260512
Except w10 doesn't let you disable a lot of it's "features".
Also with every update they reinstall all the bloatware that you might have erased.
Like how they have integrated Cortana with the search engine, so you can't fully uninstall her.
827c05 No.14260564
windows 7 end of life is jan 2020. after that have fun getting all of your passwords stolen by running the some javascrpit on a randrom site
51aa1c No.14260627
>>14260562
>you can't fully uninstall her.
Except for the part where you can.
b05558 No.14260628
>>14246262
> isn't going to work
It won't work from that but W7 will eventually have support dropped by most large publishers and major releases. Anyone who is still sticking to W7 now will eventually fold and 'upgrade' to W10 or be like me and boycott any future microsoft products and go full linux. Right now I'm dual booting between W7 & linux. It's worth getting to know it now since I'll be using it for the rest of my life it seems. W7 is still useful for me but perhaps VM-type technologies &/or wine will become good enough so I can drop even that.
884369 No.14260661
>>14254700
>SP1
Isnt this /v/?
2dcc2f No.14260712
>>14249952
Embrace, extend, extinguish.
e09d28 No.14260717
Never, they aren't interested in the game failing or even series dying. Microsoft Studios is part of their advertisement campaign for Win10.
>>14246952
Because it would mean they are profiting off them. Microsoft Studios are only developer skipping DX11, everyone else tries to sell their game on Windows 7. Windows 7/8 is still relevant and Microsoft is failing to change it.
89600a No.14264499
They have a long way to go.
7b502a No.14264568
>>14246262
It failed with Win95
It failed with Windows Vista
It's failing with Windows 10
Why do they keep doing it
e6a4ad No.14264936
>>14264499
To avoid a long reply, this picture is reatarded because it pretty much wants the PC to turn into a console, bar the exception of a few points, almost all would need the direct intervention of a regulating entity therefore no real freedom.
db7b68 No.14264949
>>14264936
You fell for the b8, anon
e3d42b No.14265289
>>14254758
>Why?
they were cheap and i needed a laptop to move from my house to work.
e6a4ad No.14265295
>>14264949
>Or why PC gaming can never surpass console gaming
God i am stupid
e3d42b No.14265310
>>14255084
>6600k
eh? didnt that CPU was the last gen that accepted win7? just switch to the penguin os anon-kun, dont let jews cuck you or buy a cpu that actually works.
>>14254758
>I refuse to give Microsoft my cellphone number
you can skip that shit, if i remember correctly
89600a No.14265525
>>14264936
It's possible to do both. It's a very careful balance.
965bfe No.14265766
>We have reached the point where even PC games need to be ported to PC
2f35ee No.14266443
>>14246262
Windows 10 is easily the majority of actual end users now, particularly gamers.
The reason Windows 10 "Exclusives" aren't working isn't because everyone is using Windows 7, they aren't working because they are actually exclusive to Windows store and DX12 - both of those suck ass.
I refuse to play any games that are on the Windows store, and I use Windows 10.
Oh and all those games suck dick or cash on nostalgia anyway. That probably isn't helping their case.
17d6cf No.14266460
>>14256404
>both come back minutes later
Last Windows 10 Update took half a day,
but you CAN disable being forced to do them easily.
Gonna switch to openSUSE when DX11 stuff is solid enough.
db7b68 No.14266468
>>14266443
AoE 3 and 2 are some of the last good rts games tho. I wish they had followed through with their original plan for the AoE series before they got killed and then revived. I played the shit out of 2 and 3 and I still have my collectors edition of 3.
08ef41 No.14266558