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http://dengekionline.com/elem/000/001/538/1538583/

Highlights:

>World is replacing the main series (using a subtitle so if it backfires and flops they can just go back to proper MonHun with 5) and is aimed very specifically at the foreigners who wouldn't play because of post-item animations and the like.

>Maps are 2.5x larger to accommodate the inter-area connections. This is supposedly why they made the glowy bug shit to keep you from getting lost, and dropped Paintballs.

>Multiple base camps that you can fast travel between and change your equipment in.

>Other Hunters can be invited to join a quest mid-way.

>Online matching can be set to worldwide or by language.

>The T-Rex is named Anjanaf, and the yellow things are Jaglas and Dos Jaglas.

>The thing on the player's arm is called the Slinger and it basically means things like Rocks that you pick up don't get counted as normal items but as ammo for that thing.

>The rope thing is used in context specific situations where it can be hooked, and automatically like in the bit in the trailer where you fail the mounts.

>Damage displays were added because of complaints that monster reactions were hard to discern.

Some key quotes:

Tsujimoto: "'Monster Hunter' itself has continued for a long time, and so we thought somewhere along the line there was a need to take a fresh look at it, and choose this timing to produce it."

Tsujimoto: "Up until now we've done numbering, as this is a timing to take a fresh look at 'Monster Hunter', we brought that concept into the title."

Fujioka: "It feels like numbering, but World is just a subtitle."

Fujioka: "There was this global wall we were never able to surpass. So we wanted to think about that and include that here."

Tsujimoto: "When we say that, it might make you think we're ONLY thinking about global with this work, that's not the case at all; we think this concept will absolutely satisfy the people who've played the series up until now domestically, and on top of that will be global and expand more and more. It's a global that includes Japan."

Fujioka: "Since the foreign fans have increased, we'd like to more straightforwardly have them playing. To go even further, we'd like them to interact more with Japanese users. Just, we want to make it while properly facing up to the elements that prevent it from expanding."

Question: "Where did you feel this global wall?"

Fujioka: "Even though there are facets that are great as Monster Hunter's unique traits, it was frustrating that they didn't seem to transfer well.

If there's a stopping point when you take an action, we include that as part of the strategy, but there are people who don't play simply because of that."

(regarding the damage value displays)

Fujioka: "We, who are developing the games, accepted them without any sense of disconnect or discomfort, so we think it'll work out alright."

>>14234700

You need to update this copypasta with all of the awful shit that's come to light post-launch, like microtranscations everywhere and the smallest monster roster since PS2.

>>14234726

Probably a good idea. I'll start compiling shit from the last thread and this one and if I manage to post next thread I'll replace the second copypasta.

Also, for anyone doing the Low Rank 4G run, I'll be going to bed soon, but otherwise the next two days I have off so anyone who wants to hunt, say so and I'll post a room.

>>14234726

>microtranscations everywhere and the smallest monster roster since PS2.

That bad, huh?

>>14234695

>last thread didnt even reach page 13

nipanon on suicide watch

>>14234726

>smallest monster roster since PS2

someone didn't play Tri, was your fist monster hunter 4 or generations?

>>14234770

>cosmetic shit

oh no, not my samurai gear

>>14234763

I never play HR games because Capcom are kikes. FU, 3U, 4U, and XX are the only ones anybody should have played.

>>14234774

>defending it as just cosmetic when nothing else in the franchise has been a microtransaction before

>capcom "nothing will be paid DLC" already went back on it

Yeah sure I'm sure they won't charge for monsters though right?

>>14234770

>no lootboxes

I am absolutely disgusted.

I thought they wanted it to be successful…

>>14234748

It's DLC for shit like gestures, gear, and cosmetic shit. You can even get the Guildmarm's set from 4U, because it's not like outfits from past games were always free and available in the games before or anything right? And this is just day 1 shit.

>>14234779

And the original's G on PS2/Wii

>>14234787

But I want to buy endgame armor, I have money to spend afterall!

>>14234796

Remember how that came out about 2 weeks after "We won't have paid DLC" was announced

>>14234799

Remember when everybody was calling Amiibo shitty physical DLC and shitting on MH Stories for being a boring jankenpon game that didn't respect the spirit of the franchise? Because I do. Unironically.

>>14234779

so wait for World G fag

>>14234822

Can I buy the cosmetic DLC that skips all the LR and HR to G-rank?

>>14234817

>they're still waiting for the port

so who's actually playing the game

>>14234830

real MonHun fans

>>14234851

>supports paid dlc of any kind

>supports difficulty drops across the board

>supports babymode additions

>>>>REAL MONHUN FANS!!!!

Kill yourself.

The vast majority of MHW players have never touched a game in the series before and should kill themselves.

I can't believe XX was the final game. They couldn't even go out on a high note.

>>14234869

you tell him fam.

real mon hun fans show themselves by buying the same game twice for harder missions.

because thats what us TRUE mon hun fans want things to be difficult bordering on tedious.

if your not spending the first 5 hours gathering whetstones and herbs so you can finally attempt to kill a velocidrome then your not a true fan

>>14234869

>I can't believe XX was the final game. They couldn't even go out on a high note.

It's better if you think of 4U as the final game and XX as a last-ditch spin-off where they let all the retards with bad ideas run the boat into the ground because they had already jumped ship to developing MHW.

I buy MonHun twice every single time it comes around and sink 300-500 hours into it with my brother playing duo and this game is no different, It could be my memory not being that great but this game is really not all that different than any of the others, most of the changes make sense and unless something goes hilariously wrong in the next 400 hours it's set to be just like to rest for me (currently 20 hours played).

>>14234883

>it's okay if they make the early grind easier, they'll keep the rest intact!

<o-oh, i-it's okay that they nerfed hp pools, it means you can get to g-rank faster!

(((>journalist mode is a good thing, as the story is so good!)))

And most fans wait for G-rank. Only whales and retards that buy whatever Sony shills on their consoles would pay $60 knowing full well that the game will be re-released in 12 months with 50% new content for the same price.

>>14234886

XX had some alright ideas. Arts were actually alright on GS, but CB and DS were completely fucked.

Still grinding Crown on both of them, alternating as I feel like it.

>>14234905

(((>tfw you fucked up the blue text.)))

So now that monster hunter is dead, what clone series is gonna pick up it's place? Or am I gonna be stuck playing the G versions of all the 4 mainline games forever?

>>14234905

>XX had some alright ideas

One. XX had one alright idea, and that was hold A to gather. The only other thing they did that was in any way good was the deviants, but they cocked it up with the pure cancer ticket system.

>>14234935

you mean i don't have to keep mashing the button to gather? that sounds pretty casual to me.

looks like mon hun went down hill way earlier than i thought

>>14234935

The deviants were good, but the tickets fucked it over.

So if they removed tickets, it'd be fine.

The trap removal, kinsect swapping, fishing movement and new monsters from X/XX were also good.

I've never played a monster hunter game but they look pretty fun.

Is it a good idea to go straight for the last 3ds game? Will it be considerably less fun if I'm playing solo?

>>14234962

>Is it a good idea to go straight for the last 3ds game?

Go for Monster Hunter 3G or 4G/4U on 3DS, or 2G/FU or Portable 3rd on PSP.

>Will it be considerably less fun if I'm playing solo?

Not at all. That said, if you really want to do multiplayer, 4G and 4U both have semi-active groups of people playing here, and there seems to be a way to do online multi with emulated versions of the PSP games over PPSSPP.

>>14234962

It's the opposite. Monster Hunter is considerably less fun if you're playing in a group. Play MH4U on 3DS, avoid Gen/X/XX. It's by far the very best "babby's first MH game" in the franchise. Play MH3U afterwards if you want to hear the best music in the franchise. People will tell you to play MH3G instead because the Western version gave you more armor. Do not listen to these people. The amount of armor is meaningless by the endgame and you'll suffer for the Japanese language.

Play MHFU on PSP if you want to respect your elders.

>>14234935

It also had other good ideas, like instantly unequip all your jewels and >>14234945

>>14234940

there's no reason to keep the button mashing. If i'm gathering materials of course i'm going to stand there until i can no longer gather them. If you want to bitch about gathering, the fact that they changed enviroment spots to "look at the bright pink/blue rock that stick out like a sore thumb" was worst.

>>14234991

>The amount of armor is meaningless by the endgame

You mean the endgame where even in Blademaster armor endgame upgrades give only 2 points of defense in exchange for a rather rare material and a fair amount of Zenny? I'm pretty sure 50 defense is far from meaningless there Anon.

>and you'll suffer for the Japanese language.

Assuming he doesn't know it, sure.

>>14235001

Yes, the endgame where 600 armor vs 650 armor does not significantly affect your survivability in a game where the goal is to not get hit in the first place. It's the difference between getting 2-shot and getting 2-shot.

>>14234962

>Will it be considerably less fun if I'm playing solo?

It is more just a different kind of fun. Solo forces you to do everything yourself, which then brings enjoyment from clearing hunts purely on your own skill. Multiplayer can makes things significantly easier, but you also get sometimes enjoyable and memorable interactions with other hunters. If you want to play online though, it's best to get comfortable playing solo first so you don't fuck up hunts online.

>>14234974

i only played MHFU on psp, how different is world compared to FU?

I've seen some drastic changes like that firefly shit, dmg numbers(can be turned off) no loading times and jumping/ running on walls. are there other changes that make it lesser than other versions?

>>14234974

>>14234991

Monster hunter 4 it is. Thanks, my negros.

>>14234781

>Yeah sure I'm sure they won't charge for monsters though right?

But they do that already with Ultimate versions.

So do we know yet if Worlds will have G rank or Equivalent yet?

>>14235010

It definitely has a marked impact on survivability, though if you're good enough to just not get hit to begin with, you should probably be doing naked runs anyway.

>>14235012

A ton. I'll try to get on a full and proper list at some point, but I'm sure someone's already hard at work coming up with a good list for you.

>>14235017

Just make sure you get either 4G for Japanese or 4U for English, both have all the content of the vanilla Monster Hunter 4 with a ton more added on top.

>>14235026

Except you don't need to buy the base game AND the ultimate version, just the ultimate version.

>>14235030

Nothing confirmed yet. Most likely if World is successful by Capcom's standards it will get G Rank in the future, though that may take a while since it sounds like Tsujimoto's team will be spending the next few months working on making the PC port for World since they're apparently not outsourcing it.

>>14235017

Don't get MH4. Get MH4U. Capcom does this jewish thing where they release half the game first, then make you buy the other half as another full release game. Same shit with Street Fighter. MH4U is the one.

>>14235038

Who did Capcom's PC port of Dragon's Dogma? That was actually not half bad, performance-wise.

>>14235031

>>14235039

Yeah no problem. It's too bad the Jews at Nintendo never do price drops in the eshop either. MH4U is still 40 of her majesty's cuck bucks on there.

>>14235053

How have you not installed CFW yet? freeShop man.

>>14234935

Oh, and XX added the one thing that every MonHun has needed since the beginning:

Cosmetic armour so I can dress up as a rainbow cat without losing 300 def.

>>14235038

>Except you don't need to buy the base game AND the ultimate version, just the ultimate version.

Unless, you know, they already bought the base game, like many people already have, before the Ultimate edition releases.

>>14235060

I haven't had the 3ds that long and also I'm a retard.

>>14235066

It's retard-proof these days. There's a huge step-by-step guide that holds your hand the entire way.

>>14235047

Not sure, PC version never came out here, so it was probably outsourced. Not seeing anything clarifying it though.

>>14235053

CFW your 3DS and get it off FreeShop, every 3DS MonHun is on there in Japanese and probably in English too.

http://3ds.guide/

>>14235054

>Given the PC release is 9 months from now, assuming very end of Q3, there's a not-too-shit chance that G-rank will launch on PC and consoles simultaneously.

4 to 4G was about a year and that was without them working on anything else to my knowledge, so while I doubt a hypothetical World G will be out on the PC's initial release, yeah, they'll probably both get it together farther down the line.

>>14235062

>Unless, you know, they already bought the base game, like many people already have, before the Ultimate edition releases.

Then they're idiots who deserve whatever they get. With the exception of Portable 3rd, every major MonHun has had a G version release afterward.

>>14235062

Did you hop IPs just to defend the DLC?

Also, this post outs you as a retard that only came to the series with MHW:

MH4 never came to the West, so he'd not be able to purchase 4 on an un-cfw'd device.

>>14235082

>4 to 4G was about a year and that was without them working on anything

There's nothing to suggest the PC version isn't 100% finished yet.

They're still using the MT Framework engine, and of all the games using the full engine (not handhelds, as they use MT Lite), only 7 haven't had PC ports/day-1 releases.

More likely that they got money from Sony/Xbox or marketing hype from the press in exchange for making it a console exclusive.

>>14235054

>Drum up how bad G-rank grind is?

Just watch capcom add the "reduce the grind" microtransactions from the MH mmo to worlds as soon as they add g-rank just for these people

>>14235082

>>14235071

Looks like I need 2 systems to cfw my 3ds anyway

>>14235128

Not if you have an ntrboot compatible flashcart, which you'll want anyways because it lets you pirate DS games too.

>>14235109

That would kill my soul, but there'd be a similar backlash to lootboxes in SW:B2, as people would feel cheated that someone paid $10 to get to the same spot as their 200 hours.

Hopefully they tire of MH after this and don't want to pay $60 for the same game the next time.

Or maybe Ichinose's shitty take on World will kill the normalfag's spirit like it does out and they can't wait until the next mainline due to attention spans of small animals.

>>14235133

Oh okay. I guess I'll look into it when I get back home. Thanks again for the help my man.

>>14235138

>but there'd be a similar backlash to lootboxes in SW:B2

No there wouldn't, Monster Hunter isn't NEARLY as popular as Star Wars.

Now that I think about it, why hasn't there ever been a romhack of MH3U that removed the extra 50 armor and randomized the charm tables every game start like MH4U does?

>>14235311

because 3ds romhacking only really became a possibility after everyone moved on to 4U.

Same reason why you don't see any of the psp games getting fucked around with despite it being easier to mess around with

>>14235164

>people that play star wars first person shooters produced by ea don't eat up whatever game sony and microsoft are shilling to justify their $400 locked down pcs

There will be overlap in the audience, and that's all you'd need.

You guys hear about ryu and sakura being added?

>>14234822

Does it come with an exclusive 1-hit kill mantle?

>>14235743

>not liking a game is because you're poor

I have it. I regret buying it. I'm loading up MH4U again.

I just got my daily bonuses, I think online is back on now.

>>14235541

it comes with salty tears and fries

>>14235054

>Could this be our way to get rid of them?

>trying to sabotage the best monhun by spreading lies

contain your autism please

>>14235906

>kike deleted my post because he is a faggot

>posted it again

<hurr you're a bot

chill brah

>>14235912

Call me an optimist, a shitposting algorithm is of infinitely higher quality than the regular cuckchan refugee that you seem to be.

>>14235922

>instant adhom

what an argument!

>>14235100

>More likely that they got money from Sony/Xbox or marketing hype from the press in exchange for making it a console exclusive.

<this is what retards believe to cope with MHW success

Yeah, M$ sure dropping some big cash to exclusively not releasing it on xbone in japan

MHW is too good to be true.

Do you people want a quick review with pros and cons?

>>14235775

>tfw I logged in early and it didn't kick me

>>14235960

save yourself the trouble, peoples that like it will like it and peoples that hates it will hate it. You're not swaying any opinion

>>14235954

Learn to read you fucking retard, he didn't say anything about MHW's success or failure, he said the likely reason the PC port is delayed is because of marketing deals.

>>14235979

Okay daddy.

By the way how the fuck do I gunlance?

>>14235960

Sure, go for it. More opinions are always good

>>14235054

>Stealth mechanic that lets you get free surprise damage on monsters

Is that why people can walk straight up to a monster and have to hit it before it fights the player?

>A proper storyline, with unskippable cutscenes, because we really need those

Have to appeal to lorefags. Whats the story?

>>14235982

Doesn't change the fact that its a baseless assumption. I could say Nintendo paying capcom money to keep hogging MH games to themselves and we argued back and forth with no conclusion, noone is wrong yet no one is right either.

>>14235983

use whetstone after you stab the fucker in the face

>>14236050

You'd lose that argument because of the creative differences Sony and Capcom had that created their initial falling out. It's easy to assume the PC deal because Sony does that shit all the time.

You guys are worried about them going into a slippery slope of casualization but can I add in the possible opposite path?

I believe they're going to refine the monster movement and attacks as we go on in this new system to make it just as hard as before, it'll just be a bit different.

>>14236114

>They're lubing up a strap-on and telling us to bend over

>But hey, maybe there's a secret lesbian we don't know about

Face it we've seen how this goes and it's not anywhere good.

>>14236121

You're following a slippery slope fallacy like every anon on both chans always do.

It doesn't always have to be a slippery slope anon, playing vidya for too long as made you jaded. I used to be like that too and I realized it made me start hating vidya.

>>14236126

Name an example in recent history where sudden changes and casualization led to an improvement of game quality.

>slope of casualization

You act like they haven't already reached the bottom with World.

>>14236126

The series began massive casualization in 4. MH4U was the time to argue that it wasn't a slippery slope and there could be positives in the future like more refined movement and verticality that wasn't underwater combat, MHW is the pit of feces at the bottom of the slope. What part of this do you normalfags not get?

Oh right, 0.03 cents deposited to your account.

>>14236132

This one? For a non-g rank game the difficulty is fine and the game still has plenty for vets.

New DOOM also was good. There are plenty of good vidya man with devs that actually care. Thinking things will go wrong all the time is just going to hurt you in the long run

>>14236142

I'm enjoying the game a shit ton though

>>14236126

Not even trying to hide that you're a redditor. No, I'm not going to tell you how I know. Fuck off.

>>14236146

>nuDoom was good

>devs that care

>bethesda/id

Last (you) from me.

>>14236144

>>14236153

>>14236152

I don't see the point of hating something because it changes. It's the same with FPS fags who shun anything new in the genre.

But I've been around long enough to see how this is going to go with you guys so Ill stop posting.

>>14236114

>>14236126

>It'll get better!

The chances are slim if MHW is successful. They'll just see that appealing to casuals creates more dosh then going back to the old games.

I have the desire to play a 3DS MH game from the beginning again, which one is still played more? 4U, G or XX? (I personally prefer 4U for the better framerate)

>>14236161

>I don't see the point of hating something because it changes

Again: it's not the changes, it's what those changes are that's the problem. Doesn't MHW have less monsters as well? How is that a good thing in a game about hunting monsters?

>>14236173

Compared to everything else they added isn't that a moot point? Of course there is less right now. That doesn't mean it's going to stay that way. 3U built off Tri to make an amazing experience and MHW is a much better game than Tri

I mean, it seems like anyone actually defending World argues and writes like a redditor, or woman, but haha, I'm just a jaded, paranoid idiot who has no fun ever right, and I should just like like the game dude, because everyone else does, right?

>>14236180

>Admit I was jaded too

>Rephrases everything to make it seem like I was insulting you including shit I never said

Damn man I wasn't even shitting on you I was trying to have a discussion. You're the one who is arguing like a woman now.

>>14236082

assumption =\= truth. You make it sound port game to PC is easy as flipping a switch. Nier PC version was released same month as ps4 and its full of bugs that haven't been fixed to this day it was fixed by the community but the point is the dev doesn't give a shit about it

>14236186

I'm not talking about just you, you self absorbed faggot. Didn't you say you were leaving already?

>>14236187

Alright now I'm done. You guys are fags. Have fun with your circlejerking of the same opinion in this echo chamber you built up like the 8chan equivalent of an echo chamber from reddit.

>>14236114

When has capcom ever reverted a series back after casualizing it?

Jeez, here I was thinking I could go on /v/ and talk about the fucking bad luck I had with Anjanath Pelts - 5 hunts, 6 pelts. I need at least 13 for the armor, weapon and the camp.

But this thread quickly devolved into "Whawha I don't want anything to change" vs. "Nah man it's great everything's good now shut your mouth you shit elitist"

I like the game. It's not perfect. I'm still gonna pump a few hundred hours into it, cause it's Monster Hunter at the end of the day. Fights are the same, monster patterns are mostly the same. I like the idea of sneaking - you can't just run up to a monster and get a free hit, you actually have to use foliage or mantles to your advantage and oftentimes lure the enemies into a natural trap. Some of the levels are confusing, but I like the graphics and how they nailed living ecosystems. Combat's the same as ever, and I do think it's harder than Generations, about the same level as 4U.

>>14236199

>It seems theres extremes on both sides, some are saying its the best ever while the later thinks it kills the game series, or just hates mon hun and is only in the thread to shitpost

Welcome to the contrarian olympic, where everybody wins a medal

I don't super hate World, but it just seems like a downgrade to what we had before, and I'm afraid that we'll never get a "normal" monster hunter again.

>>14236199

>The tracker flies

Maybe some people don't like to feel retarded when the flies light up objects as if you didn't know they existed. Wouldn't be an issue if you could at least turn them off.

>The mantles are pretty pointless, unless you use the Ghillie mantle but honestly its the same as when you would go to a different area/loading screen to escape and sharpen/heal up.

Some of the mantles are too overpowered and allow you to fight a monster with no challenge involved. The vitality mantle that gives you invincibility for a few minutes is not the same as running away like a bitch.

>>14236231

Vitality mantle? I didnt know that existed, what is that? I only have the Ghillie, flying and the Rocksteady. How many others are there? I tend to stay away from them, hell I dont even use the lock on.

They should have just made a real tracking system where you look at tracks and use your brain to figure out where it is leading and where the next track is. They could make multiplayer hunts have more red herrings or branching paths so that it requires all four dudes looking around trying to find the right path.

>>14236240

"They casualized it"

"Mantles are shit"

"Everyone defending world is talking like a woman"

"We won't get a core mh game anymore"

"MHW is casualized trash"

"MHW is the pit of feces at the bottom of the slope"

"You can get free hits off of it"

Did you read the thread?

>>14236231

Wrong, I have the vitality mantle and it only gives you one extra healthbar, as soon as you lose it it goes away for the time it takes for a hunt to finish.

>>14236199

>half

>most use similar skeletons

>almost all

I don't think you know what almost all means

>>14236240

>

People itt have complained about microtransactions and this is all you get out of it?

>DLC that are purely cosmetic gonna ruined the game

keep on reaching anon, surely those hairstyle and stickers are critical in hunting down nergiante

Is there any way to get the invincibility mantle early?

I have no idea how mantles are supposed to work(First MH game)

>>14236268

Holy shit anon there is no invincibility mantle.

Im in high rank and I havent even gotten the rocksteady mantle yet.

>>14236268

>false flagging this hard

first day on an imageboard?

>>14236271

I don't own a 3ds and the ps2 MH games were out when I was like 6 years old.

Calm your shit.

>>14236250

You take a bunch of shit out of context and then you ask if I read the damn thread while conveniently ignoring what I mention even though that was the very first thing brought up in this thread? I guess you gotta make your shitty point and justify your purchase somehow.

>>14236266

Except I didn't even say or even imply that, you moron. So quick to defend the shit that you even invented your own argument to fight against. I haven't even complained about the game once.

>>14236280

I literally said that a bunch of assholes were shitting on the game without reason, while others defended it without any form of critical thinking.

You attacked that by stating that "we only attacked the microtransactions hurrdidurr"

I proofed you wrong. Now you're moving the goalpost by trying to make this about me liking the game and the microtransactions. Stay on point or fuck off.

>>14236278

Just talk to the towns people and do their quests and deliveries, you'll get the mantles eventually.

If you play like a tard they wont be very useful to you though.

>>14236284

Here it's from the other chan.

https://mega.nz/#!3kxWTZpQ!FPNkkIlFY6kmX_XEdw_AzNnpdaj1wqbmw4ALHZo_c4M

>>14236303

Thanks.

>>14236280

>>14236280

>Except I didn't even say or even imply that

its literally in your post you fucker, if you dont have anything to add just shut the fuck up

>>14236251

Thats the health mantle

>>14236246

There isn't too much information on the mantles acquired late game

http://monsterhunter.wikia.com/wiki/MHW:_Specialized_Tools>>14236246

Who thought spreading everything out was a good idea? It used to be smithy, store, canteen, and house within 15 feet of each other. Now the house is on one side of the fucking map, store on the other, smithy UPSTAIRS then the canteen and handler is on the other side of that. What the fuck.

>>14236319

> I already proved you wrong by pointing out the very first complaint made.

> I already proved you wrong by pointing out ONE valid complaint in a pile of shitty asshats complaining about completely unrelated shit without any valid reason.

Are you clinically retarded?

>Microtransactions were already a topic in this thread.

But not in my discussion. I don't have anything about you complaining about them. That's not the point I was arguing. You tried to make it the point I was arguing. You moved the goalpost.

>>14236341

*against, not about

>>14236328

>I-it has a long cooldown

who cares that it provides an absurd buff for those times when it's not on CD. It's truly shaping up to be the best monster hunter yet!

>>14236346

How is it absurd? It's basically the equivalent of two (if that) mega potions.

>>14236348

Free hp is absurd in MH. Not to mention the rocksteady, the "drop aggro" mantle, although honestly the drop aggro one is pretty useless because of how horrible the AI is anyways.

I want the kids to go, they always lower the post quality to retarded levels.

On the topic of world, i hope they fix that vigorwasp skill at some point, i saw a guy fighting a tobi kadachi and his cat had 3 vigor wasps spawn around the area and at that point you don't even need to care about your HP as it will recover faster than the monster deal damage to you. It's completely broken.

I don't know who thought that vigor wasps were a good idea, but he needs to be shot.

>>14236357

or you could fuck back off to cuckchan

>>14236354

>Free hp is absurd in MH

Yeah, because 2 mega potions is really absurd when you could already carry around 20 in previous games.

>Not to mention the rocksteady

Takes 1-2 hits and breaks, cooldown is almost as long as the vitality mantle.

>although honestly the drop aggro one is pretty useless

This is true, but less because the AI is horrible and more because it lasts about 5 seconds before they find you again at least that's how it was against Anjanath, I never used it again afterwards

>>14236357

The vigorwasp gadget is the real OP shit. People that whine about mantles pretty clearly haven't looked into the game at all and are just regurgitating months old info.

>>14236319

>People are shitting on the game without reason!

<point out a reason

>But that's only one reason!

That's the definition of shifting the goalposts, faggot. You even admit that the complaint is valid after saying "I literally said that a bunch of assholes were shitting on the game without reason," You can go fuck right off.

>But not in my discussion.

Right. My point being is you're the one who's off topic, faggot. You're arguing nobody arguing has a valid complaint, but when I push into you face, you keep telling me that I'm off topic.

>>14236368

The AI will drop targeting to go to sleep. it's fucking horrible AI. And cooldowns don't justify the nature of how OP they are. and on the topic of potions. YOU HAVE LITERALLY INFINITE OF THEM PER HUNT IN WORLD, provided you keep a stocked item box.

>>14236199

Start:

Fighting a boss in several different flat arenas. The boss is bigger than you and has priority over your actions. You are slow, largely vulnerable, will get punished severely for acting rashly and must learn when it is safe to attack.

Generation 2

Fighting a boss in several different flat arenas. The boss is bigger than you and has priority over your actions. You are slow and largely vulnerable, will get punished severely for acting rashly and must learn when it is safe to attack. You can sacrifice damage for evasion skills now, which subverts this a bit (especially on lance)

Generation 3

Fighting a boss in several different flat arenas ´´and underwater arenas. The boss is bigger than you and has priority over your actions. You are slow and largely vulnerable, will get punished severely for acting rashly and must learn when it is safe to attack even though attacking is weird and unsatisfying underwater''. Lance gets a counter and dbs get fast, which subverts this a bit. Hitboxes no longer suck.

Dialogue gets more colorful and some cinematics get more cutesy, maybe.

Generation 4

Introduction of sloped areas, climbing areas, jumping moves and pseudo-aerial combat. Monsters and player movesets are not at all balanced around the introduction of sloped environments, many monsters even lacking the correct animations to deal with slopes. Monster have no method of dealing with vaulting players, and will only be able to hit them due to hitboxes which aren't adjusted for player verticality. Kind of a critical error when it's the game's major selling point. Ledges constantly interrupt the player's movement and can punish the player by forcing them into an extremely vulnerable jumping state, which is a problem when small ledges aren't visible to the player when the camera is pointed at the monster. Introduction of evasion+3 allows complete invincibility for long periods of time, or significant enough evasion to not be punished for making mistakes in most instances. Iglaive always powerful and on the cover to make sure all the new players flock to it and can spam mount. CB trash initially, but gets access to cancel into counter-able guard at any point with massive motion values, huge amounts of true damage as well as exhaust and KO damage all in one hit. That you can pull out of a counter. Also the cutscenes are like a bad disney movie.

Item sets was nice though

Gens

Fighting a boss in several different sloped and flat arenas. The boss is bigger than you but you have priority over most of it's actions. You are quick, rarely vulnerable, will get rewarded significantly for acting rashly and must always attack or be spamming absolute readiness. Hyper monsters and deviants are introduced to combat these empowered players, where the design philosophy is 'Big flashy unpredictable AoE attacks half of the time, standing still doing nothing the other half'.

XX

DUDE HOLD Y LMAO

MHW

This game which takes all the worst things from 4U and gens, adds paid dlc and full blown walking while shooting controls and cool cinematic monster interaction is exactly the same as classic monster hunter yep, you guys are all just lame meanie haters that can't deal with changes.

>>14236319

like i said, if you dont have anything to add, then shut the fuck up. You complaint about centrist while you yourself have no opinion on the subject and replying to peoples for no reason other than being a jackass

>>14236247

>use your brain to figure out where it is

The game is marketed to people who cant do this.

>>14236377

>Generation 3

>

>Fighting a boss in several different flat arenas ´´and underwater arenas´´. The boss is bigger than you and has priority over your actions. You are slow and largely vulnerable, will get punished severely for acting rashly and must learn when it is safe to attack ´´even though attacking is weird and unsatisfying underwater''.

That was a pretty stupid typo to make.

>>14236387

Yeah, scout flies are casual, hardcore hunter use ping dex and go straight to the spawn area

>>14236374

>The AI will drop targeting to go to sleep

This is bad and needs to be fixed, but I recall this happening in the older games as well so it isn't like it's exclusive to World.

>And cooldowns don't justify the nature of how OP they are

I'd call this a deflection, but is ignoring everything I said and just blindly repeating yourself really a deflection? Those take more work.

>YOU HAVE LITERALLY INFINITE OF THEM PER HUNT IN WORLD, provided you keep a stocked item box.

Not a fan of this either, but it doesn't make or break the game for me.

>>14236435

>Actually, you never said that.

>>14236305

>>14236003

I'm still low rank but:

<cons

<game is kind of easy (no shit it's low rank)

<the verticality fucks you up for about 20 hours until you get used to the map, repeat for each new map

<no negative armor skills

<weapon design and crafting is very streamlined

<you get two trees of weapons (bone and steel) and from those you craft everything else

<weapons look like the original with monster parts slapped on it randomly

>pros

>you can revert a weapon upgrade and get back some materials

>the attention to detail is godlike

>every captured monster pops out in town with researchers studying it

>every captured monster can be fought in an arena on a later date

>maps have lots of handy shortcuts to travel them better

>you have to buy shortcuts and additional camps after the first one

>there is ALWAYS three bosses in every quest, meaning you will never find yourself bored

>rathian's tailflip won't poison if you cut her fucking tail

>seamless animations for all bosses

>tiny monsters are sincronized for all players

>riding has been made better (the boss has ways of automatically dismount you, and you get to pick which part of the boss to hit once you've successfully ridden it)

>weapons feel way better than before

>fanged weapons are less annoying to get started with

>>14236463

I forgot

>cat companion is now GODLIKE

>>14234774

That's how it starts.

>>14236452

Got me there.

>>14235504

Just combine the image.

>>14236468

How so?

>>14236543

they stop being useless for once

>>14236188

It's not really difficult and it's not a far stretch to assume they have timed exclusive deals. They've been doing that for a while.

>B-but you can't absolutely prove it!

So what?

>Bezelgeuse

There's been some pushover monsters, but this guy is a fucking cunt. Fitting considering he's the Jho of the game.

>>14236549

They're honestly too good at this point, the gadgets in general need to be nerfed.

>>14236549

They were useful in 4u, but now they are just downright broken.

Keeping you on life support during the entire battle is not godly is fucking gay and took the challenge away from me, its okay to get healed but getting it that frequently was ridiculous.

Flashfly cage is OP too, I never tried the shield, now I just use the buff horn.

>>14236568

>So what?

I'm gonna use that for every argument now

>>14236568

This logic works really well when you pretend the game wasn't released on xbone.

>>14236594

use trap homebre

>>14236594

Its 8am and im going to work, I'm not that far due to me exploring and doing side shit that the urgent quests. But hey if you're still on later i'll hunt with ya. I use Hammer so the monster will just be down most of the time.

>>14236623

It works better when you realize that this kind of shit never happened until the last few years. Sounds like a funny coincidence, huh?

>>14236638

a nips that like MHW? heresy. or you might be a filthy korean

>>14236638

Wew. Its 5pm in the afternoon for me. Maybe i'll see you some time anon. Im up to hunt with anybody from here anytime im online.

>>14236641

so what?

>>14236641

Not saying that it doesn't happen, but generally when a console manufacturer pays to have their game be a console exclusive it's, well

a console exclusive.

>>14236664

And it is a timed exclusive for consoles right now. The argument about 'muh ports!' doesn't work when

1. This Never was a thing until recently

2. Consoles have now become more and more like PCs, and are even easier to emulate and port things from

If it was that difficult, I'd expect them to take the same time porting it to different consoles as well, since they aren't exactly the same. I'd also expect it to have taken awhile when porting games prior to now since the hardware was quite different, but that still isn't true. Thus, the most likely conclusion is that the publisher has thrown a wrench somewhere in the process.

>>14235983

How to gunlance (on 3DS, World changed it a lot so some of this won't apply):

Rule 0) Have fun!

Rule 1) Don't hit your friends

Rule 2) Don't get hit by your friends

Rule 3) Seriously, don't hit your friends

Now that that's covered:

Poke-poke-upswing-evade is going to be your main combo.

Poke-poke-shot-poke-poke-shot… is a good way to extend your combo if you don't need to evade. If it's a big enough monster you can use poke-poke-upswing-shot-poke-poke-upswing-shot…, but that leaves you shooting almost directly overhead and the shot might not hit anything if the monster isn't big enough.

Try to get some experience with all three shot types. They all share the same core but each one focuses on a different component of the weapon.

Normal shot has the weakest shot damage but a large magazine, and gets bonus damage on full burst. You'll want to use the full burst for hitting harder parts and getting breaks piss easy, but that's slow, devours sharpness and leaves you needing to reload, so it can be risky to spam it. Individual shots are pretty weak so you probably won't be using them for anything but extending your poke combos. I don't like Normal much, but it's the most common shot type and most people's favorite.

Long shot has a better range and a tighter cone, higher per-shot damage, and a much stronger wyvern fire. With Long shot, you'll want to use wyvern fire as often as you can, and will be shelling more often than Normal. Be careful with the shots though, they're so long you might end up knocking down an ally on the other side of the monster.

Wide shot has an extremely short range and the smallest magazine, only 2 shots. Don't fullburst. It has a very wide spread but that's usually more of nuisance than a help, it means you'll knock over people almost directly beside your muzzle. Wide shot can be very hard to use with other people because of this, so don't fuck up. But, wide also has the strongest individual shots, and gets bonus damage on charged shots, so if you have the time to charge one you can get a good amount of damage out quick. Use quick reload a lot, it'll make those 2 shots last a lot longer. Don't use fullburst. I need to repeat that. Your individual shots are strong but there's only two, fullbursting is a waste of time for Wide, and it forces you to full reload. Wide's good overall.

Just remember, you're a gunlance. Use your gun, and use your lance; don't just shell, even with Wide, and don't just poke, even with Normal.

>>14236680

One difference is that you have different hardware configurations into account. Developing for three or four hardware configs is easy, developing for a near infinite number isn't. Also you have to include graphics settings and debug on a lot of different systems.

Controls are another thing, but less so.

6-9 months for a game that took 4-5 years to develop seems very much reasonable in order to port it from consoles to PCs.

>>14236680

>Consoles have now become more and more like PCs, and are even easier to emulate and port things from

then explain why Nier PC port is a total ass with locked framerate and resolution

>>14236708

>One difference is that you have different hardware configurations into account.

This is true, yet I'd have expected this to be an issue previously, but it never really was.

>6-9 months for a game that took 4-5 years to develop seems very much reasonable

6-9 Months might be reasonable if their development team was smaller. But it took about 4 Years to create, and 7 months just to port it? That's a fantastically long time by porting standards. And if it comes out and still runs like shit, It'll guarantee what I said to be true.

>>14236729

So what? Re-read what I said. Automata's port has nothing to do with it and can also be explained away as being due to a poor allocation of resources and publisher retardation.

>>14236652

Anon I'm in the military in korea.

Is there any room up at the moment? I'd like to join the squad too, I'm tired of playing with edgelord weebs with japanese names spamming the trippingsword.

>>14236751

4U is the last main line game. Each of the main line games have their own shortcomings and positives so calling it the last "good" monster hunter depends on the person. Last competent monster hunter? Definitely.

>Also, which monster would you fuck?

Lunastra

>>14236751

Would you ____ a zinogre?

>>14236806

Only it it's a girl and so deep in heat, she don't care.

>>14236778

>wanting to fuck the most used up slut in MH history

Get some class. She's a married woman. Do you like cuckolding or something? I mean, you'd be the bull cucking that loser Rathalos but it's still cuckshit. Even Kut-ku's gotten some of that whore's AIDS infested cunt.

>>14236572

Vigorwasp does get out of hand. I'm in the middle of a fight and I see my palico pull one out and I just say, "Jesus Christ cat another one?" It does remove some difficulty. Speaking of palico, do you guys always give cat puns for the names? Mine is currently "Purrcival."

>>14236773

>my assumption of things are right and your assumption of things are wrong.

Maybe Capcom are doing something right by taking time with the port instead of rushing it like SE

>>14236789

how does it feel working for the ZOG?

>>14236463

Once you get deeper into the game, you start unlocking a Dragonbone tree for weapons and presumably other types too. Being able to revert gear is pretty slick, though. I've yet to use it, but I like that you can fuck up and not be forced to build a whole new weapon from scratch or savescum to undo your mistake. The further you go along, the more the trees extend down and right giving you lots and lots of options. It also lets you see what materials you'll need down the line, even if you haven't found that Dragonite Ore or Monster Bone+ yet, you know you have the option to pre-emptively farm some other parts to be ready when you do get the stuff you need to unlock that upgrade.

I know why /v/ and other places were pissed about this game. I fully understand and acknowledge that the negativity was in the right place. The game is a lot more forgiving. Being able to port between camps and change gear in mid game and having a palico that is constantly dropping vigorwasps for you takes out some of the difficulty.. You don't have to use any of that. You can leave your palico at camp. You can walk everywhere. You can quit out of a mission to run all the way back to your house to change at the item box like you're used to.. But man, I feel like I'm actually capable of getting shit done now. I also feel like a lot of the monsters get to be a little more clever and challenging because they give you so much ease of use kind of shit.

It's unarguable that they casualized a lot of glaring aspects that have been present in every game for the past 14 years.. but at the same time, I'm glad I don't have to go through a dozen loading screens as punishment for a few little mistakes, like forgetting to grab a certain item or using all my fucking traps in a capture mission. I like that I can teleport around and explore the maps, because they are fucking huge now, and it's not the same thing as chasing a monster through 3 or 4 rooms. It's a fucking hike to catch a monster that fled zone, especially when they moved 3 layers up into the maze of tree canopies and upper branches. I like that I can finish a mission and immediately start another one without having to go back to town. I actually feel like I'm progressing instead of grinding, even when I'm grinding. I like that.

>>14236839

But I don't live in a ZOG nations,

can anybody explain how the squad thing work? How do I join 8/v/ squad?

>>14236817

Just quit using palicoes, I don't understand why people enable it in the first place.

>>14236833

It sucks but I get back at them by just doing my job and changing things from the inside. Once I become an NCO the jews will bow to me. Also what >>14236839 said, except I also get lewd things and Japanese mercy

Started playing 3rd on my PSP.

Only gripe about the EN patch is the actual information in the training is untranslated. You'd figure they would have translated the stuff in the tutorial. I mean I'm doing alright but still

>>14236912

The real tutorial are the rank 1 and 2 village quests.

>>14236912

A lot of that was ignored because the only people who were dying for an english patch were people who were already familiar with MonHun and didn't need the training stuff or useless menus that tell you how to combo with your weapon.

>>14236918

Fair enough. Still though would have been helpful.

>>14236862

You need to be invited by someone to their squad while you're in the same session. I'll try to see if I can invite you or not.

>>14236950

>Game where you track down monster girls and have to turn them into good loving waifus

>>14236862

Okay join our squad session

ID - 6zbnEsTEfz3T

I'll see if I can invite you myself

>>14236823

My assumptions are based on reality and what's happened. If it was gonna be any good, they'd have it done in a timely fashion, it's a redditor-tier attitude to think that because they are screwing around and taking several times longer than normal, it will be good.

>>14235100

>There's nothing to suggest the PC version isn't 100% finished yet.

Vid related is from the beginning of this month, so unless they finished the PC port since then, they're still working on it.

>>14236171

4G/U is the most played 3DS game at this point.

>>14236179

>Compared to everything else they added isn't that a moot point?

In the sense that the changes they added are all so fucking awful that they eclipse even the lack of content in how bad they make World, yeah.

>>14236199

>It seems theres extremes on both sides, some are saying its the best ever while the later thinks it kills the game series

That's what happens when you radically redesign the game to the point it doesn't even resemble the prior titles anymore - people who liked them will see it as killing the series, while people who hated those and like what it's become see it as "fixing" the series. The same thing happens pretty much anytime you have a big revamp like this, see Castlevania Symphony of the Night and Persona 3.

>>14236751

>But you're also burnt out on 4U.

There's groups here playing both 4G and 4U, so that doesn't seem to be the case.

Will we see any new MonHun for Switch for the west or will Capcom shill World instead? Portable MonHun still has a market.

>>14237211

The PSP ones work pretty much flawlessly, and the Wii ones are playable, if you're willing to go through borked controls.

>>14237211

Both the PS2 and PSP games all are.

>>14237190

I sincerely hope that no one is buying any of the "add on content" capcom is selling on the PSN store. It's literally emotes and makeup for your hunter. It's the dumbest shit and capcom thinks people will pay money for item packs and emotes.

>>14237164

It's meant to appeal to the West, so of course it looks retarded.

>>14237211

OP has links for the PSP games, though the P3rd one seems to be out, but someone else linked a new Mega for it. If you have a CFW'd 3DS, all the 3DS titles are up on FreeShop as well.

>>14237217

>Switch

>Portable

>>14237230

World's target audience absolutely will.

>>14237243

More portable than PS4/Xbone. And not everyone has a high power gaming laptop.

>>14237295

I agree the artstyle isn't great. Unfortunately, it was the only decent one I could find.

>>14237164

Actual fucking Oblivion character.

>>14237351

>I'm legitimately curious how that shit happened.

You're blind then, because it's all over the game. I've been looking at people posting their self-made character faces on cuckchan and they're all awful looking. It's like Oblivion all over again. Also your pics

>colossal jew nose

>nigger dredlocks

>actually okay face but some kind of weird vein popping out of her arm

>>14237351

Last pic I think looks pretty good on a design level.

>>14237351

I prefer a MonHonV over whatever dumpster fire World is turning into. Could be nice for V to take the old hunting grounds and fill in all the gaps between areas to make them feel like one whole hunting ground. These new game journo modes are getting out of hand.

>>14237397

>third panel

Dee you around space cowboy.

>>14237435

I did say 'most' not 'all'

>>14237373

>I've been looking at people posting their self-made character faces on cuckchan

>admitting going to cuckchan

You can stay there

>>14237351

>i-its Sony fault MH is not on nintendo console

cryingwojakwithmariohat.jpg

>>14237710

Japs are shit on every game, the ones playing PSO2 gives you cancer from how inept they are at following objectives.

There is a reason why they have gone full mobage shit.

>>14237755

The japs you play with on this are just as bad as the Americans. I bet if you go on a 3DS you'll get the real MonHun players.

>>14237773

Only baguettes play handhelds

>>14237773

im a monhun vet and im playing world, only salty fags with no means to play this are the ones complaining about it

>>14237787

>only salty fags with no means to play this are the ones complaining about it

Not at all, I've got a PS4 sitting right here, I just have zero interest in World and even if I did, I'd just wait for the G version like any actual vet of the series would know to do

>>14237811

Look, when they're already doing sour grapes to justify a game they bought being considered bad. You know the game has to be grade A 100% good, right?

>>14237777

I did play with a lot of French ruining my games on 4U. And it looks like quads confirm it.

>>14237787

I'm just saying there are a lot of new players on the PS matchmaking.

>>14237842

Are cut scenes unskippable like in 4th gen?

>>14237811

thats because usually ultimate version ship over to the states as the vanilla mon hun dont make it to the west

>>14237863

That has nothing to do with it - if you're at all familiar with the franchise, you should know better than to buy a non G/U version of the game.

>>14237873

>That has nothing to do with it

u wot m8? we only got the ultimate version, we can't buy the vanilla version even if we wanted to

>>14237932

And that somehow prevents you from being aware of what's going on with the series you're supposedly a fan of? You're on the fucking Internet, it's not like it's hard to find out what's going on. I repeat, if you have enough familiarity with Monster Hunter to consider yourself a "veteran" of the series, you know how they do releases and won't bother with a non-G/U version.

>>14237932

You're wrong about that you mong. for Generations the US only got the base game.

>>14237941

>And that somehow prevents you from being aware of what's going on with the series you're supposedly a fan of?

The fuck are you talking about dumbass? The inability to buy something that isn't available to you mean I'm not aware?

>>14237978

>The fuck are you talking about dumbass? The inability to buy something that isn't available to you mean I'm not aware?

That seems to be your argument, considering my point was, and I quote, "if you're at all familiar with the franchise, you should know better than to buy a non G/U version of the game."

>>14237945

Yeah it's pretty decent.

>>14237943

Doesn't make sense to release in the west since you got World less than a year later

>>14237986

that makes absolutely no sense. XX came out after gen and they still got world

>>14237855

unsure but the issue is on these early quests there's a mid-mission cutscene you gotta wait for your buddy to go find the damn monster before you can join

>>14237984

>check ID

>its the OP

must be nipanon talking from japanese perspective. Look faggot, base game usually doesn't get release in the west, you CAN'T buy it. Veteran MH player in the west never got the base game. You should spout your advise to your fellow nips because they're the one getting swindle by Capcom

>>14236842

Dude the quality of life options are fucking godlike. I think Capcom realised that everyone just looks at the wiki for fucking everything so now ALL of that shit is in the game. Being able to just see what your weapon upgrades to is fantastic, as well as there's a wishlist function so you can just pinpoint a weapon you want to reach and the game spits out a list of drops to get to that point.

The monster ecology is crazy useful. As you hunt more of a monster it tells you the elemental weaknesses and weakpoints, as well as further down the track it tells you the breakable parts, indicates where they are on the monster AND what they drop as well as the chances.

Don't nobody bitch about m.. muh casualisation because anyone and their mother who wanted to get a specific monster drop just went on kiranico or whatever.

More cool stuff: You can join quests midway and it actively scales the difficulty when other players join, so no more dicking around waiting for your friends to return when you want to play with them but they're already in a quest.

>>14238006

>Muh nipanon meme

Ironic when you're the one who can't seem to read English. Again, even a Western fan who hasn't had a chance to buy both a base and G version since Tri and 3U knows that they do this with every installment. Literally the only people who don't know about this business practice are the newfags who know nothing about the series. I repeat, if you're at all experienced enough with the series to consider yourself a veteran, you know that that is how they do the releases, and you would know better than to buy non-G/U versions of the games.

>>14237992

We already establish that japan peoples are stupid, the ate up yearly rerelease for decades, it makes total sense to release XX twice and World in japan

>>14238023

I know about the rerelease but you failed to take into account that Capcom never do a rerelease in the west and MHW is on a better hardware that allowed digital upgrade, they already do this with SFV. I repeat, go spout your "muh base game" to your fellow nips.

OK question

on the tutorial mission to capture the great Jaggi how do I do that exactly since none of the tips are in EN.

From waht I know I have traps and tranq bombs, the problem is I dunno how to use em. I get you set the trap down and the tranq bombs are meant to "subdue a monster caught in a trap" but it doesn't seem to work

what do

>>14238084

>I know about the rerelease but you failed to take into account that Capcom never do a rerelease in the west

<What are Freedom Unite and 3 Ultimate

>MHW is on a better hardware that allowed digital upgrade

And? There's been no indication that they are going to do a digital upgrade instead of a rerelease.

>I repeat

You should probably stop changing your IP so much.

>>14238021

You know what I really like?

Being able to sort my weapons by trees.

It's what I'd do usually, so it's nice to have that automated instead of autismally moving all my weapons around.

>>14238095

Monster needs to be below a certain health threshold before you can cap it. Depending on which game you're playing, they'll show tells like limping. Then you trap 'em, then you tranq 'em.

>>14238095

Wait for him to limp, then trap him and use a tranq bomb on him.

>>14238095

Hit the monster until it's limping and trying to escape to it's nest to sleep, catch it in a trap, throw tranqs at it.

>>14237793

I've been staring at that picture for like ten minutes now and I can't see how it looks like a Tetsucabra at all.

>>14238116

right

>>14237793

She'll get her time

>>14238108

>And? There's been no indication that they are going to do a digital upgrade instead of a rerelease.

Sort of like how there's no indication of the opposite. Or that there'll even be a G/U version at all.

>>14238142

>Sort of like how there's no indication of the opposite. Or that there'll even be a G/U version at all.

Except for the fact that this is what they've done with not only every main series release but also with X/Gen.

>>14238113

In MHW they make it really obvious by having the limping monster also appear as a skull on the minimap

>>14238108

>Freedom Unite

1 game

>3U

>strictly for WiiU and 3DS

I wouldn't called a rerelease since its not on the Wii

>There's been no indication that they are going to do a digital upgrade instead of a rerelease.

Based on SFV model, its not too far fetch

>>14234695

>was in last thread waiting for page 13

>posted 14 hours ago

God fucking damit OP. kys

>>14236800

session ID: MhuA6p7vT8J

I'm here now my son. Come.

>>14236862

>>14238171

wish I could join but I'm at work right now

>>14238169

>I wouldn't called a rerelease since its not on the Wii

It's a little unusual, to be sure, and it does drop the unique Bowgun system of Tri, so it's not the "exact same game plus more" that the other rereleases are. Still has mostly the same content with more added on top though.

>Based on SFV model, its not too far fetch

It's worth keeping in mind as a possibility, sure, but the fact remains that Monster Hunter has been doing this model since it came out almost a decade and a half ago, and there's been no official statement one way or another. Either way, I'd say an experienced person would hold off and wait.

>>14238182

Wage on anon. Wage on.

You got a time I should try to be online for?

>>14238169

>Based on SFV model, its not too far fetch

You can't really compare the SFV model to a hypothetical digital upgrade for MHW.

SFV is designed to trick players into thinking they'll get everything for free but when they play the actual game end up being forced to buy content with actual money to speed up the process. That's the only reason SFV still gets support because they got cash cows they keep buying the season pass.

The only way a SFV model would work in MHW is if they made every monster they add free but for limited time periods, but give people the option to buy "hunting seasons" that give you access to the monsters regardless if they're available for all users or not.

>>14237773

I've played XX and I can tell you this is bullshit. G-rank in XX was good for the first week or so, when all the good players from X and a handful of autistic foreigners were the only ones in G-rank yet. After that all the shitters got carried and it slowly went to complete shit, only a little bit better than the Western games other then them being faggots who leave the room in an instant if you don't say hello (or whatever the hell that moonrune chat shoutout says) as soon as they join. As long as you don't get any frenchies or mexicans, at least. Fuck those guys.

>>14237868

Just like the fungus infested Shen Gaoren corpse in Generations. And then XX didn't bring him back. World's new stuff could possibly make Dalamadur almost bearable. Maybe.

>>14237863

>>14238006

>the vanilla mon hun dont make it to the west

>base game usually doesn't get release in the west, you CAN'T buy it. Veteran MH player in the west never got the base game.

You're a fucking retard. We got the original MH, Tri, Generations, and now World, all without G-rank. Dos and 4 are the only ones we didn't get the original game for. We also got Freedom and Freedom 2, but not P3rd, if you want to include the Portable series. That's 6/9, or two thirds, of the non-G releases.

>>14238308

>That's 6/9, or two thirds, of the non-G releases.

How many of those are "rerelease" on the same system? I'll tell you, only 1, we got both Freedom and Freedom Unite on PSP. My point is Capcom doesn't do rerelease model for western market, they give you 1 version and that's it for each system.

>inb4 Tri

Tri was release on Wii, 3U was release for WiiU and 3DS which essentially count as an enhanced port of the Wii version

>>14238431

That isn't what either post I was replying to said. Both of those posts claimed the West does not get the base/vanilla, non-G version of the games. I've shown that that is false.

So, can cut scenes be skipped or not? I get you can't make other players skip their's in multiplayer, but if you were to boot the game up yourself for the first time, would you be able to skip all the cut scenes, or are you forced to sit through them like in 4?

>>14238503

You cant skip them

>>14238622

That's shitty, but predictable considering the same was true in 4. Thanks!

>>14238638

Why is this guy cosplaying as a humanized brachydios?

And why the fuck is that guy in the background blue?

I have several questions as far as being sort of new to MH

>is world good?

>is playing as bard in MH worth it, or specifically in world

>I like gunlance, are there good gunlances in world?

>>14238774

>is world good?

The general opinion seems to be "Not good as a Monster Hunter goes, but good as something closer to Toukiden or Dynasty Warriors goes"

>>14238774

GL is super fun in world. I do hammer/GL/LS

>>14235912

We had a bot from you few threads back tho. :^)

>>14238867

I think by Legiana, who is easily my favorite monster so far, things are about back to normal. Between him and Paolumu, you get back into the cheap wombo combos that MH is notorious for.

So I've got a rough draft going for a World blurb for future OPs, if anyone has any suggestions for things I forgot please voice them.

>Monster Hunter World released on January 26th, 2018 for PS4 (worldwide) and Xbox One (NA/EU). A PC port is being worked on and is currently slated for an Autumn 2018 release.

>Despite the lack of a number, World was developed with the intent of being "Monster Hunter 5."

>World was built specifically to target foreign audiences who found the series too challenging.

>Like all first releases of a generation, World only goes up to High Rank. Capcom has not confirmed or denied whether G Rank content will be made, or how it will be released if it is.

>World has the first instances of paid DLC in the franchise. All paid DLC thus far has been cosmetic, and thus far all announced monster-related content is free.

>There is no longer a Village/Gathering Hall distinction. All quests can be done multiplayer. By the same token, players can no longer take on "multiplayer" quests solo, since when in single player the difficulty is set lower, and only switched to the higher difficulty if other players are present. Like in previous titles, it's a purely single/multi distinction, so difficulty is the same regardless if there are 2, 3, or 4 players.

>Online servers are now region-free, so JP players can play with foreign players and vice versa. Filters can be set by language (i.e. you can choose to hook up with only Japanese or only English players)

>World is rather story-intensive even compared to 4, with a large amount of cut scenes both between and during hunts. Like in 4, cut scenes are unskippable. Voice acting in actual languages appears for the first time in the franchise, though traditional "Monster Hunter" language can also be enabled.

>HP damage numbers that indicate how much damage attacks do appear for the first time. They can be turned off.

>Glowing green "Scoutflies"/"Shirubemushi" highlight interactable objects on the screen and guide the player to the monster. The ability to track monsters starts weaker and increases the more "experience" they gain until they at all times display a monster's position. They cannot be turned off.

>An in-game wiki-like feature has been included that gives rough estimations of weak points and drop rates.

>World launched with 30 large monsters. For comparison the most recent non-G Rank Monster Hunter titles, 4 and X/Generations, had 51 and 69 respectively. Patches will be released to up the monster count, with the first set for sometime in the spring to add Deviljho.

>Armor is no longer distinguished between Blademaster and Gunner. Regardless of weapon any armor can be equipped, with melee weapons giving a defensive boost and ranged weapons giving an elemental resistance boost.

>Armor Skills no longer require a base threshhold of points to activate, even a single point in a Skill is enough to activate it, with the effect increasing at higher levels. There are no Minus Skills. Further, some Armor sets have "set bonuses" that activate when wearing multiple pieces of the same set.

>New tools include a variety of "Mantles" and "Boosters" that can be used an infinite number of times with a cooldown between uses. Effects range from providing periodic healing to status resistance, even up to stealth effects and damage negation.

>Due to the removal of loading screens between zones, maps are about 2-2.5x the size of previous titles.

>Each map now has multiple base camps, which can be freely teleported to at any time when not directly engaged with a large monster.

>Base camps allow the player to restock on all items freely throughout the hunt, as well as change out gear wholesale, including any Mantles on cooldown. Players can eat multiple times per hunt at base camps as well.

>Items can now be used "on the move." For instance, Potions no longer require the player to stand still, and with a slight loss of speed the players can even run while drinking. As a caveat, healing is no longer instant, and occurs throughout the duration of the drinking part of the animation.

>Bowguns can also be fired while moving.

>Whetstones, Bug Nets, and Pickaxes are no longer consumable items, instead simply being infinite use.

>>14239098

>Combinations can be "preprogrammed" to run automatically, allowing players to combine for more Potions or ammunition without needing to find a safe opening to open the menu.

>Areas now contain environmental traps that can restrain monsters or knock them into other areas. Some of these can affect the player as well.

>Regardless of other gear, all players now have a "Slinger" to fire off items that were previously thrown as projectiles, as well as to interact with the environment as a grappling hook for travel or to utilize environmental traps.

>Once a mount is inititiated, it is impossible to fail unless the monster is stunned, trapped, or killed.

>Some monsters will ignore the players entirely until attacked, and monsters will at times ignore the players even mid-battle in favor of entering short interactive cutscenes where they battle other monsters, dealing large amounts of damage to them and possibly incapacitating them.

>>14239337

Shift ends and the shills go home, I guess.

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For NA PS4 users.

>>14239098

>There are no Minus Skills.

actually we need to confirm this, because i am almost sure i saw a streamer looking through the armors skills in his set and one of those had negative values with adverse effects.

>Once a mount is inititiated, it is impossible to fail

The monster can still throw you off by using the environment, it even does it in the announcement trailer.

>>14239098

It looks pretty good overall. It's written in a fairly neutral tone, which I think is nice. Trimming it down to a single post could be useful too, because as it is, that would leave our OPs at 3 posts. I just can't see what to cut, exactly. Or, alternatively, the real OP could include a chunk of this, and then have the rest in a second post. You could also put it all into a pastebin or something a few weeks after release and link it in the OP, once it doesn't need to be front and center news anymore.

>Once a mount is inititiated, it is impossible to fail unless the monster is stunned, trapped, or killed.

Is this right? I heard they could still knock you off if they bashed into something, or if they kicked you off after you used the slinger to hook back on. That's really stupid if it's true, I knew they heavily casualized mounting, but I didn't realize it was that bad.

>>14239374

>I'd much rather talk to the shills than the shills

What?

>>14239378

>actually we need to confirm this, because i am almost sure i saw a streamer looking through the armors skills in his set and one of those had negative values with adverse effects.

Please do provide source if you remember where you saw it, or of course if anyone with the game finds one take a screencap and upload. This would be a huge change if true.

>The monster can still throw you off by using the environment, it even does it in the announcement trailer.

People who've played the full game have experimented and found that the hunter will automatically, without any input from the player, use the Slinger to regrapple back onto the monster when this happens, no matter how many times. There might be some specific condition like stamina running out maybe, this might require experimentation and investigation. I'll modify the entry for now.

>>14239383

Yeah, size is the biggest problem, I might try to make some of the entries less wordy if possible, though the pastebin idea sounds appealing since then it could just be tossed into the OP post and not waste an extra post.

>>14239411

>You need to hit triangle to initiate the grapple if you fail a mount if you don't you will not get back on.

Is there an option in the settings or something that influences this? Because multiple people were saying they didn't push any buttons and still auto regrappled on.

>>14239424

Well shit. I guess I'll take it off for the moment until I can confirm for myself. Hopefully the official guide clarifies it.

>>14239464

>criticism

I'm just compiling facts on the game to replace the old interview translation from way back when. My intent is to portray the information neutrally. If the facts sound like criticism to you, then that says more about your view of the game than mine.

>>14239475

I rather have peoples that played the game to compile the facts rather than peoples that have no clue what they are talking about

>>14239475

If you can do that neutrally, sure go ahead. But if you are going to speak your opinion about the changes, then you should play the game. though some changes are pretty objective

>>14239480

The facts are the facts, regardless of who states them.

>>14239486

>If you can do that neutrally, sure go ahead

I feel I have done so, but if you think there are any parts of >>14239098 and >>14239102 that are not neutral, please do say so.

>>14239464

>You can't criticise something unless you tried it

You can't claim a plate of week old shit is disgusting until you try it, stop being entitled.

>>14239494

Looks fine to me.

>>14239510

Good to hear, thanks!

>>14239531

You still have not tried the plate of shit. You have only a second hand and subjective grasp of the plate of shit and its tastes, eat up only then can you judge it.

>>14239509

False equivalency fallacy, try again.

>>14239539

>>14239509

>doesn't have first experience with shit

on the contrary, peoples poop everyday, everybody have first hand experience with shit. Try again smartass

>>14239494

>The facts are the facts, regardless of who states them.

But you can't distinguish which one is fact and fiction. Peoples could made up some some bullshit and you just put it on the list

>>14239571

For the most part you can distinguish them pretty easily. A few things will be hazy in the early days, but that will get cleared up pretty quickly.

>>14239583

>handheld hardware problems, and tedious bullshit that has come to define the series.

Like?

>The ability to actually control the FUCKING camera

That hasn't been a problem since Portable 3rd's PSP version.

>I am absolutely edging for G rank already

You're going to be edging for a while, Anon.

>>14238162

Seriously? I thought it was just the heartbeat indicator being flat when the monster was nearly dead. That's pathetic, what's the challenge of capture quests when you can tell when the monster is capturable? At least in previous games you needed an armor skill to be able to tell from the painted monster on the map. Imagine that, preparing for a quest so you can mitigate it's challenges in advance instead of just being fed the mitigation for free or having to do it the hard way if you don't wanna prepare.

>>14239699

From what I saw you only get that after fighting the monster a bunch of times already and getting enough research points on it while also filling out its in-game wiki.

I managed to fail a capture quest and kill a tobi-kadachi because the skull didn't appear for be because I never had enough research points on the guy and was relying on the skull to appear.

>>14239699

Also it takes forever to gain research points if you kill monsters, If you capture them instead its bound to increase way faster.

>>14239750

Gotcha, you could have still used the heartbeat monitor through right? I'm still a bit uncomfortable with that system taking away the player's need to learn the monster and how long it lasts from fighting it several times over a static system but at least it's not on right away and requires some fighting.

http://www.strawpoll.me/14955848

>>14236543

>cat now

>dies less

>has subquests in explorations in order to get upgrades

>can ride little monsters into fight

>can ask other palicoes to follow you while you're playing singleplayer

>is close to invincible

>cat skills are now streamlined and don't rely on RNG, you just equip them

>crafting cat armor is done with monster parts and isn't reliant on a minigame

>>14239864

>crafting cat armor is done with monster parts and isn't reliant on a minigame

The 4s were the only time that was the case - Portable 3rd and the Xs both had scraps get made from when you crafted gear, or let you turn pieces into scraps for them.

I want to play this game, but the character models are so ugly that I can't stand it.

The models are so terrible that I actually want my female character fully covered up because I don't want to look at her.

>>14239800

>sword and board

>twin knives

>bowguns

>bowgun (not gun)

I am triggered.

Is anyone going to talk about the fucking game or are these threads just going to be the same shit throwing cryfests until the PC release?

>>14239833

PS+ is needed sadly.

>>14239635

>For the most part you can distinguish them pretty easily

Not really, for examples people have the biggest misconception about how scoutflies work. It doesn't leave a trail of glowing pixies dust straight to the monster for you to follow. At lvl 0, it doesn't guide you to anything, it just highlighting random object, you have to run all over the map to look for clues, even then, you don't know if you're following clues for the right monster.

>>14239920

The flies do get fucking annoying because they use the same color to track monster as well as highlight objects of interest.