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bc4b24 No.14231737

>inb4Shoddyniggers

They've done another video on New Vegas in a similar vein to their Caesar video which was pretty good. Yet again more evidence on how NV is infinitely superior to any of (((Bethesda's))) "games". Discuss why House did nothing wrong. Legionbros welcome

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6d9c37 No.14231757

File: c97cf8ca6acc5c2⋯.jpg (33.4 KB, 537x343, 537:343, sturmbannführer.jpg)

Legion is for LARPing incels.


82040f No.14231769

File: 73e7a4a38b303f4⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 324.6 KB, 1280x1353, 1280:1353, TODD PREORDER.jpg)

DROP THIS OLD GARBAGE AND GO PURCHASE FALLOUT 4 GAME OF THE YEAR EDITION


553659 No.14231916

File: f7fd18bd763b5cb⋯.jpg (32.48 KB, 1024x576, 16:9, 721abe7947cf295d4540a556cd….jpg)

NCR is the superior option.

Not because they are a strong nation. Not because of their ideals. Not because they are the best option for the wasteland. It is precisely because they are a nation of cucks, and anybody with sufficient money, power, and influence can bend their entire nation to their will. As seen in the game, they are the only faction where direct orders can be ignored - even directly contradicted - so long as you know the right people and have a good reputation. It is basically the independent route, except you don't just get an anarchist shithole rioting Vegas for your efforts - but an entire nation at your beck and call… PLUS New Vegas, and the have both a old-world style military and robot army at your command to keep the peace. Yeah, there's more legwork involved, and you'll never be acknowledged as the leader - but that works out for the best since while the politicians will take credit for your accomplishments - they'll also take the blame for your fuckups and take the heat for your power plays.

Why settle for controlling a small city state, when you can manipulate your way into becoming basically the un-elected leader of an entire empire?


825ec4 No.14231938

>>14231916

I'm confused.

are you implying that the resource wars should start again? cause in the fallout uni. that's basically what cause them


7cf3dd No.14231946

>>14231916

>NCR is the best because you can be a kike

sage for eceleb bullshit.


547454 No.14231949

What warrants the endless amount of threads about this game's lore?


553659 No.14231950

>>14231938

I'm saying it doesn't matter when the end goal is having as much power and influence as you possibly can, to make the wasteland your own and shape however you want.

Resource Wars are irrelevant. By the time it comes to a head again, you and everybody you manipulated will be long gone.


7cf3dd No.14231958

>>14231949

Factions that weren't 2d cardboard cutouts but fleshed out, clashing ideologies with flaws


825ec4 No.14231964

>>14231950

why not just skip all the cuck hoopla and put mr house on top then?


bc4b24 No.14231965

File: 36b4c21adb1cce4⋯.jpg (396.79 KB, 1365x1024, 1365:1024, 3147fa6bdc61569540f188a5ec….jpg)

>>14231949

What warrants your ceaseless lust for copius amounts of black cock in your mouth? Some questions will just never be answered

>>14231946

Anon I would make a webum but I'm not at my computer


7cf3dd No.14231974

>>14231964

>implying the ability to accurately judge your own capabilities and limitations is common among the population


12bf7a No.14231975

>>14231949

cuck/v/ loves New Vegas threads, that's the reason.


7cf3dd No.14231979

>>14231737

>Discuss why House did nothing wrong

He was too benevolent, and let the subhuman savages exist in freeside and westside where they lived in squalor, behaved like actual niggers and literally wewuzed but den da wapepo House come alon and destroy everythang.


825ec4 No.14231982

>>14231974

yeah no.

first you say might makes right, now you say power corrupts. pick a side bro


553659 No.14231989

>>14231964

Because House isn't a cuck that will let you push him around, and even if you play along just long enough to off him and take the reigns yourself - you're still going to be stuck with the primary driver of your economy being reliant on an uneasy truce with an antagonistic nation. Who's to say that once those consumers have enough of your technology and the manufacturing base to reverse engineer your Robco garbage tech - they won't use it against you?

And again… why have one small city state, when you could run an entire nation from that annexed territory? Far enough away from the senate to keep their noses out of your business for the most part, but still well within the reach of your vast cash reserves. If they consider Vegas to be a part of the NCR, they won't struggle against you.


7cf3dd No.14232053

>>14231982

You need might to uphold whatever law you have, that's beyond debate if such law is moral, and not everyone gets corrupted by power.


bc4b24 No.14234509

File: 15518a707e5a176⋯.jpg (47.15 KB, 455x563, 455:563, bdea72dafa0508d74223a1df0f….jpg)

>>14231979

The niggers are only there because of what House built. He'd tell them to fuck off if he actually found a use for Freeside


7cf3dd No.14234525

>>14234509

to be fair, Freeside is a nice illustration of an ancap territory where despite having all the infrastructure to be new Reno-tier they're a zimbabwe-tier shithole where kids chase rats for food.


93c323 No.14234570

File: 76b92a816f472ac⋯.png (303.09 KB, 454x635, 454:635, 76b92a816f472aced79c214fae….png)

>>14231949

Because people like discussing F:NV retard


81b8f1 No.14234573

This game is so shit, what do you like about it? d


93c323 No.14234583

File: 87efd025347a3ae⋯.jpg (87.84 KB, 996x467, 996:467, 87efd025347a3aee25192cfc06….jpg)

>>14234573

I know right! Skyrim and Fallout 4 did everything New Vegas did but better! Why not just buy those games and refund NV!


81b8f1 No.14234592

>>14234583

They are even worse, New Vegas is just a slightly less shit FO3.


93c323 No.14234598

File: b3218e3dab1a06a⋯.jpg (41.71 KB, 399x404, 399:404, thinking_smiley.jpg)

>>14234592

What are some of your arguments to why New Vegas is shit. It just seems like your desperately trying to get some (You)'s


7cac60 No.14234601

File: d688fd963f927db⋯.png (335.12 KB, 477x495, 53:55, hikage really.PNG)

Killing House depends entirely on what you do next and what character you're playing as.

Neutral/good karma courier that got a "good" ending for OWB is probably overall better for Vegas.

Every other case - you're better off siding with House because he's more than capable of doing what he's promising. Plus, NCR is on the verge of a civil war and Legion is going to fall to bits after Caesar's inevitable death.


81b8f1 No.14234610

>>14234598

The combat is liquid dogshit that takes no skill and the characters just feel like they are trying to ape way too hard the older games much like FO3 was a poor man's FO1.


93c323 No.14234662

File: 09e7d0b944f406c⋯.jpg (143.95 KB, 911x1024, 911:1024, 529a90b01ea28e10c2d5d9e0d0….jpg)

>>14234610

I agree that the combat is pretty shit but, I wouldn't call the character writing bad. The character at least had motivations to do what they do in-game, which you can't say for some of Bethesda's. Maybe I'm biased towards my extreme distaste of Bethesda in general but Fallout 3 had some of the shitest writing I have ever seen in a game. If FO3 was trying to be more of a 3D F01, the least they could do was learn from Interplay's writing.


b0a82e No.14234687

>>14234662

The most important part of a game is the gameplay, is it not? FO4 has undeniably better gameplay than NV, but it's widely accepted to be a shit game.


c31ffd No.14234690

File: d39bd9d8cc45685⋯.png (670.98 KB, 600x907, 600:907, degenerates like you belon….png)

>>14234610

If you mean melee combat that is something in the later versions of FO was always shit but that is something that not even mods have helped with,and that is pretty telling that unfortunately it goes deeper that what soemeone with a passion and somefree time on their hands can fix ;the only thing that saved it earlier on was the turned based nature the games had.Apart from that the shooting in NV was improved from it's predecessor and even further so with mods

>>14231757

here's a pity (you)


21d7a3 No.14234692

>the individual has no value beyond his utility to the state, whether as an instrument of war or production

<muh cult of personality

<muh barbarian nigger lifestyle that is justified not by nihilism but by adherence to the cult leader's code of conduct

<muh buttrape communist fantasy

<muh 'let's go on a murderous conquest in order to force people to live by our way of life'

Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay but at least you'll all efficient little soldier ants for daddy caesar's dick. not saying there are any better options outside of House, and even his route is questionable because the player cannot know the extent to which he is a genius or a madman


93c323 No.14234711

File: e9d42bbe503924a⋯.jpg (489.71 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, fi9CxOW.jpg)

>>14234687

Because Fallout at its core is just an RPG with action elements. The gameplay will always be sub-servant to its world and RPG mechanics. Fallout 4 might have better gameplay but it's just an Open World game with a few RPG elements. New Vegas will always have a special place in my heart because, what Obsidian accomplished with limited time and resources fucking towers over any turd Bethesda shitted out in the past decade.


b0a82e No.14234716

>>14234690

Melee NEEDS to be simplistic in order to compete with guns, unless you want to just make ranged useless instead. Why dodge/block/parry shit when you can just shoot them in the head? There are other ways of balancing a game with both ranged and melee attacks, but none of them are really suitable to Fallout


c31ffd No.14234744

File: c42eb40dd3a1195⋯.png (79.6 KB, 464x937, 464:937, 1430447249265.png)

>>14234716

>melee must be simplistic to compete with guns

>why dodge/block/parry shit when you can just shoot them in the head

Ever heard the expression 'bringing a knife to a gunfight'?

was going full retard and disproving your own point within the same post part of your master plan?


bc4b24 No.14234791

File: 72448228957d653⋯.webm (11.34 MB, 853x480, 853:480, new vegas war club.webm)

>mfw people use ranged


7ea618 No.14234813

File: eda5acac0449c7a⋯.jpg (151.29 KB, 960x1280, 3:4, eda5acac0449c7abfb55c544f8….jpg)

>>14231965

Even in that picture New Vegas is an empty ghost town.


277428 No.14234818

File: 06dbb96be1dfda3⋯.jpg (913.89 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 22490_screenshots_FalloutN….jpg)


9380f3 No.14234831

File: a917d3f3f72effb⋯.jpg (1011.67 KB, 1600x900, 16:9, glory_charge.jpg)

NCR are quite literally the Imperial Guard out of 40k.

Fighting for a state rife with corruption and decay for a belief that they are not sure exists anymore holding back the horrors that threaten to eradicate them from existence. They are used and abused so much that their morale is at an all time low yet they keep fighting on cause their faith keeps them going.

What they need is a true Emperor that will usher in a Golden Age, not false warlords who seek to create unsustainable fiefdoms.


bbade8 No.14234841

File: 2669db676723cd1⋯.jpg (422.05 KB, 3840x1080, 32:9, 8JN9JH7.jpg)

>>14234831

NCR is too stretched out to be effective and corruption and incompetence is rife within their ranks.


277428 No.14234849

File: 1cdc46e82928cd6⋯.webm (2.16 MB, 640x350, 64:35, sfx_int_radio_mus_14_0 [E….webm)

If you like New Vegas you might like Elex.


4e0fbd No.14234852

>>14234791

that's good music, what is it anon?


bc4b24 No.14234864

File: 2a525bd983157a2⋯.png (1.16 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, ncr.png)

>>14234831

The NCR exists to be destroyed

>>14234852

I'm not sure. Some anon posted the webm in a thread a few months ago


7ea618 No.14234865

File: 20803f16deafc0d⋯.jpg (49.37 KB, 700x464, 175:116, the legion captures some n….jpg)

>>14234831

NCR are a bunch of drunks and boylovers. They're not fighting for any noble goal. They're doing it for booze money.


b0a82e No.14234872

>>14234791

I still think the Industrial Hand is better.

You should see what Melee can do in FO4 though. The Blitz perk lets you teleport to a target whenever you try to VATS melee them, so you can basically use melee from range. Between all the perks and strength bonus and high damage weapons available, you can one-shot anything in the game with melee-sneak and almost anything without even needing to sneak at all.


967bcb No.14234885

File: 4cd51cf97b1a06f⋯.png (126.75 KB, 370x319, 370:319, confused "girl" with nose ….png)

>>14234872

But that'd mean playing Fallout 4.


b0a82e No.14234911

>>14234885

Fair enough. It's kind of boring when you can hit for over 30k without chems and the toughest enemies in the game only have around 1500 hp.


41363a No.14234926

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14234852

Korn - Right Now


553659 No.14234958

File: 80b2c874415d34b⋯.jpg (53.1 KB, 320x240, 4:3, Elsa_de-Sica_(manga).jpg)

>>14234716

>Why dodge/block/parry shit when you can just shoot them in the head?

VATS was a mistake. They could have removed the "Pause - you're dead" button and made all VATS attacks non-lethal (outside of critical hits), but crippling as a way of spreading status effects. Shooting enemies in the legs to keep them from moving around, or shooting them in the eyes to blind them, or shooting them in the nuts to stun/paralyse - etc. The only enemy it even works halfway decently on is Cazadores to keep them from flying around - and even then, unless you're completely underleveled or getting swarmed - it's better to just to just shoot them in the head.

Shooting weapons out of enemies hands is a pretty useful tactic too, especially if they have shit melee skills, but they really should have locked that ability behind a perk.


38f689 No.14235148

File: 2d891be4f569dbf⋯.jpg (92.22 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, 1471478751145.jpg)

>>14234818

Okay, pacifist shit I can believe. I'll even believe the no stimpacks bit, but how the fuck did you get away without using radaway and radx while digging around places like vault 34 and courier's mile without autistically taking trips back to Freeside every three minutes to get flushed free of rads?


cd0f17 No.14235155

>>14235148

Probably wore the radiation suit.


116f0c No.14235191

>>14235148

Cave fungus.


41363a No.14235220

>>14235148

power armor + radx + stock up on at least 25 radaway was what did it for me.


c31ffd No.14235312

File: 1d07806da5eac17⋯.gif (91.53 KB, 400x215, 80:43, 9a381df919d28d9bb8eb135c27….gif)

>>14235191

you're more full of shit than the Bethesda Creation Club

in the early game right up to Novac i encountered maybe one trader that had some (1) piece on them and that was in every single one of my playtroughs so far,you have better chances finding Sierra Madre chips out in the wasteland than you have finding cave fungus


bc4b24 No.14235343

>>14235312

Maybe he has a steady supply of fiery purgatives. The survival consumables are OP as fuck


41363a No.14235361

>>14235343

Survival is an amazing skill. Turn trash into gold and increase your lethality by 100% with just a few consumables. Rushing water, Slasher and Psycho with a good gun and all will fall before you.


7cac60 No.14235398

>>14235361

You want to know a true bullshit survival item?

Blood sausages


41363a No.14235439

>>14235398

Stacking food is generally a really easy way to tank damage.


4e63d6 No.14235445

>>14235343

Considering how much of a pain it is to find the ingrediants for the rarer ones,i think it's justified


c8ec29 No.14235449

All endings are arguably decent, but I like Legion's the least. You're subjecting people of the wasteland to wars to create an empire that's either falling apart the second Caesar dies or just continues to be simply barbaric, never reaching that next stage he intended because no one who'd take over after him knows what he actually wants. House's ending is the best.

>>14234885

This artist would be better if he didn't go for urethra shit too often. I hate that crap.


116f0c No.14235470

>>14235312

I'm not saying that he managed to completely cure his radiation poisoning with the shit, just that cave fungus+a radiation/space suit could easily keep it managed to the point that he wouldn't have to run to a doctor every time he get's exposed.


acae8d No.14236916

File: b16fdda5af323f5⋯.jpg (63.6 KB, 422x750, 211:375, 1430404920875.jpg)

>>14231737

>Discuss why House did nothing wrong

>ywn go to space with your bro house and fuck some qt robots


b895f3 No.14237914

>>14234687

>FO4 has undeniably better gameplay than NV,

If you're solely referring to combat, absolutely.

In almost every other gameplay category it's worse than NV and FO3.


b895f3 No.14237917

>>14236916

>fuck some qt robots

What qt robots? There weren't any in NV that I can remember.


21eb96 No.14238054

The next Fallout game should be focused about the player becoming the loli Empress of Mankind


65cbef No.14238119

File: 8850466a4f073ec⋯.jpg (106.89 KB, 376x432, 47:54, Fisto_nv.jpg)

>>14237917

are you saying Fisto isn't cute?


b895f3 No.14238136


4e63d6 No.14238139

>>14238119

Get me some female robots and you'll have my interest.


b8f128 No.14238157

File: 0dda17f7231d648⋯.png (431.67 KB, 600x599, 600:599, a42.png)

>mfw there are people who unironically think that the NCR is a democratic republic

>mfw every single one of them is a democracy-cuck IRL

House is best girl though.


553659 No.14238199

File: 9dbfd1d789f8dc2⋯.jpg (1.03 MB, 1440x1544, 180:193, checking-system-connection….jpg)

File: e6bffde6c5738d8⋯.jpg (254.34 KB, 1500x904, 375:226, Back-i-Series.jpg)

File: 12efaf140ad6669⋯.jpg (25.74 KB, 461x338, 461:338, 15-Pin-DB15-VGA-SVGA-KVM-G….jpg)

File: e881ae104e00269⋯.jpg (45.47 KB, 1000x750, 4:3, 15-pin-vga-male-to-male-co….jpg)

>>14238139

>Get me some female robots and you'll have my interest.

Robots are female, because they are just ambulatory computers - and you don't plug computers into things. The computer sits there and gets things plugged into it. It's ports, with the possible exception of the power cord, are all female connections.

And even with the power cord, that's still something you plug into a recess on the computer - but the pins fit into slots on the cord - making them male.


4e63d6 No.14238205

>>14238199

You very well know what i meant you jackass.


250ec7 No.14238251

>>14238199

>you don't plug computers into things

>what is a wall socket

Kill yourself.


e59cc8 No.14238274

>>14238251

So computers are traps?


b1bab8 No.14238300

File: 5c817cf406074ce⋯.jpg (29.54 KB, 208x206, 104:103, 1481409608954.jpg)

>>14238157

>capitalism

Do you want to be weak, anon?


acc174 No.14238312

File: e5fc8c1bfa83cf2⋯.png (404.53 KB, 478x640, 239:320, 1378144657590.png)

FRONTIER MOTHERFUCKING WHEN

>>14234813

We postan legion grills now?

>>14238139

Lightswitches.


a59f9c No.14238315

Wasn't there supposed to be a Great Khans ending?


4e63d6 No.14238323

>>14238312

You are a bully,you know i meant something like jane


0175ec No.14238338

>>14238300

>only other choices are NCR crony capitalism, Legion paleo-economy, and complete anarchy.

House is the best option. Seeing as how you posted Varg I guess you side with Legion?


553659 No.14238348

File: 8528570c75cdbc5⋯.jpg (28.13 KB, 600x450, 4:3, 20151218_163820[1].jpg)

File: 5591641baf6cb26⋯.jpg (463.88 KB, 3984x2656, 3:2, double-male-plug1.jpg)

>>14238251

Nigger, I already made that concession because of the pin configuration - and fuck you, you don't plug a computer into the wall socket anyhow. You plug the power cord into the wall socket, and then you plug the power cord into a computer.

And the only reason that's done the way it is is because they have to for safety. You don't want a bunch of electrified prongs sticking out carrying "fry your ass dead" levels of current.


ac300f No.14238610

File: 6963dd3b1754222⋯.png (416.88 KB, 599x983, 599:983, didnothingwrongexcepttotal….png)


b895f3 No.14238619

>>14238610

If you think Caesar is a bad guy then you must also think the Romans were awful people, because they did much worse.


553659 No.14238643

File: bd2778ad9b240e8⋯.jpg (198.69 KB, 1070x761, 1070:761, PassionMovie_whipped5.jpg)

File: 10a995745fe204b⋯.jpg (29.36 KB, 640x480, 4:3, 0404_news_Easter_pageant_d….jpg)

>>14238619

They did kill Jesus.


ac300f No.14238644

>>14238619

>history is full of people being dicks

>this is something

Also, Caesar's Legion is explicitly anti-science, anti-tech, or anything that isn't explicitly about making a military state.


2e8294 No.14238650

>>14238619

Caesar is anti tech and is just aping another culture. The romans were advanced and spread their culture to others.


730fd7 No.14238666

>>14238644

>>14238650

That is not entirely true. Caesar himself was a Follower of the Apocalypse mind you. There's nothing to imply Caesar was anti-tech per se. Its more likely that he felt employing Securitrons would take useful jobs away from soldiers or slaves


ac300f No.14238669

>>14238644

>this is something new

edit

>>14238619

Lanius Legate being Caesar's successor is point against Caesar's Legion.

>inb4 Vulpes Inculta

They aren't going to make a spy into the leader.


2e8294 No.14238674

>>14238666

Well every territory he controls and most of his equipment is africa tier. Even his top dog Legate uses melee weapons and standard armor.


730fd7 No.14238682

>>14238674

No shit, they're former raider tribes. Caesar united them and made them all literate by teaching them Latin. He saw the tribes lack of direction and unity as an opportunity to bring them together.


acc174 No.14238683

File: 61b5d295a5c7d09⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 14.87 KB, 128x128, 1:1, 857a3a14d5cede74f7f3581641….png)

>>14238666

>explicitly forbids his soldiers from using laser/plasma weaponry

>equips them in motherfucking football pads

>not anti-tech

Waste of satanic digits.


730fd7 No.14238693

File: 0402fe4401730c1⋯.png (4.26 KB, 212x238, 106:119, 39d8e045c4e98f244eeb096371….png)

>>14238683

>Forbids his soldiers from using expensive and difficult to maintain guns and ammo

Wew lad I guess the NCR is anti-technology too by making their cheap-ass mass produced service rifles as their standard infantry weapons


78caeb No.14238695

>>14238643

That's a retarded reason.

>M-muh Jesus

When in the bible the entire reason that Jesus died was to save humans from original sin, so he was always fated to die.

But for some reason doing him in which was the fucking plan given in the bible Christians some how get ass hurt about their messiah dying who claimed his whole existence was to fucking die.


873c5f No.14238698

>>14238348

>>14238274

>>14238199

What kind of a trap name would suit a computer the most?


2e8294 No.14238702

File: 60e2558efc49501⋯.png (192.44 KB, 481x347, 481:347, I seriously hope you don't….png)

>>14238682

And if he was truly successful they'd all have some infrastructure built and some usage of tech beyond point stick. The highest tech he uses is the displacer gloves his guards have.


78caeb No.14238703

>>14238698

Universally adaptable.


730fd7 No.14238709

File: 3f6968e1470ac23⋯.gif (230.08 KB, 320x320, 1:1, 3f6968e1470ac234321d5c9dae….gif)

>>14238702

He was able have massive forts constructed and you even see this in-game. Pretty impressive considering the camp was meant as a semi-temporary military encampment.


78caeb No.14238711

>>14238702

>If he was truly successful.

NCR stems from several generations going back to the original fallouts.

Ceasers legion was created in a single man's life time and managed to rival NCR in what took them 3-4x as long.

Only retards completely dismiss the merits of NCR.


acc174 No.14238716

File: c009fd21be1f846⋯.gif (1.22 MB, 450x450, 1:1, slap a nig.gif)

>>14238693

>hur standard issue equipment is the ONLY equipment they use

>what is NCR salvaged power armor

>oh god please fuck my face

>>14238709

>fidget spinner apple emoji

Ah why didn't you just say you were a shitposting faggot earlier?


1963f8 No.14238724

>>14238610

>implying wastelanders are people

Richardson did nothing wrong


730fd7 No.14238727

File: 44f1afede3bd49b⋯.gif (352.1 KB, 256x256, 1:1, 44f1afede3bd49bb4d48a86313….gif)

>>14238716

>m-muh power armor!

Oh, you mean that slow piece of shit that are so expensive to salvage only a small handful of samples are still known to exist? Yeah you're right, Caesar is truly retarded for not falling for the level of useless bureaucracy required to have produced those monstrosities. Literally the F-35 of Fallout


2e8294 No.14238733

>>14238727

>Oh, you mean that slow piece of shit

The brotherhood would like a word with you.


730fd7 No.14238742

File: 9535f254280de26⋯.gif (199.44 KB, 500x276, 125:69, 9535f254280de2631b310886c8….gif)

>>14238733

Didn't they all cuck out and are all in hiding in little holes in the ground now? kek


78caeb No.14238748

>>14238716

Are you retarded NCR power Armor isn't power armor, it has all its motors removed which is why it doesn't give any strength but -2 agility.,

Its glorified metal armor.


2e8294 No.14238750

>>14238742

Only cause the main body is on the other side of the continent.


730fd7 No.14238756

File: 97c52befe648929⋯.jpg (408.52 KB, 1680x1050, 8:5, 06c7ce0b056c5b98a27af51d76….jpg)

>>14238750

They probably gave up migrating west with the rest of them because they power armor was so slow and heavy lmao


78caeb No.14238757

>>14238750

Here you go NCR apologists

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/NCR_salvaged_power_armor

There power armor is objectively worse to combat armor and most armors/

Probably why they get their shit pushed in by junkies.


2e8294 No.14238762

>>14238757

I'm talking about BoS dummy.


730fd7 No.14238767

>>14238762

Clearly you shifted the goalpost because we were originally talking about the useless piece of shit the NCR uses


1963f8 No.14238771

>>14235148

Irradiated beauty/Rad Absorption.


2e8294 No.14238775

>>14238767

That other anon was, yes.


acc174 No.14238799

File: f570eeedb494609⋯.png (547.17 KB, 606x836, 303:418, LegionVexillariusArmor.png)

>>14238727

>>14238748

It's still tech.

The original argument was over whether NCR is anti-tech, which they're not. They're just a stretched out and undermanned bureaucracy that can't afford to outfit all their soldiers in power armor and energy weapons, but still would do so if given the means.

The Legion on the other hand would still send their soldiers to battle with machetes and armor made out of dinner plates.


553659 No.14238818

File: dce86ead3621b94⋯.jpg (229.72 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Tribal_PA_helmet.jpg)

>>14238750

>M-Muh East Coast Brotherhood

A: They are not Brotherhood, and they completely abandoned the Codex - even after "King Arthur" took the mantle because Bethesda can't write for shit. It's still just Lyon's Pride but slightly more fascist and now (for some reason) interested in nation building.

B: Pretty much the entire East Coast chapter is just nigger wastelanders that were conscripted or volunteered. Lyons started recruiting from local population since his little crusade to make an unlivable shithole into a safe place to raise a family ended up killing almost the entire original detachment that came with him.

And C: It really was just a small detachment. The elders are all still on the West Coast, and the only reason why the East Coast brotherhood is bigger in FO4's time is because Bethesda wrote them to be a staple in future Fallout games - whereas Obsidian wrote them to be an increasingly irrelevant isolationist cult that was getting chipped away because of it's tendency to pick fights with anybody who had tech that wasn't themselves.

That was Veronica's whole companion quest if you didn't immediately shoot her in the face. She was trying to get them to adapt and grow, to evolve with the changing wasteland, and they told her to fuck off - they already knew they were dying out, but death was preferable to betraying the codex and violating their beliefs in the founders axioms. So all that time she spent trying to get them to see reason was a colossal waste of everyone's time - because they already saw reason, and they rejected it. She was just too dumb to see it.

At best you can broker maybe another 20 years for them by forging an alliance between them and the NCR - but that's about it. If the East Coast Brotherhood is the main force, it's only because they are the only ones left standing - and they are the ones left standing because they betrayed everything they believed when they invited a bunch of outsiders and outside perspectives into their ranks.

Shit, the whole thing would almost be a meta analogy for the fallout series in general - but it would have to be coincidental. There's no fucking way that hack Emil could be reflective or self-aware enough to make such a reference.


6357ae No.14238823

Don't play Faggout Gay Vegas


eb833c No.14238841

File: 3f56f10542d0bcf⋯.png (349.14 KB, 1711x1511, 1711:1511, 1446612132550.png)

Friendly reminder that NCR can't protect their own lands or people.

Friendly reminder that Mr. House is a sycophant obsessed with making Vegas into a city in a bottle forever lingering on the old flawed world, his madness will never go anywhere meaningful.

Friendly reminder that Caesar's Legion will likely fall apart when Caesar dies, though I will admit at least they're learning from the past.

Friendly reminder that free Vegas stands no chance in the long term, though if anything that's mainly because it's left so vague and in the middle of a war.

There are no right choices, only choices. That's Fallout baby. Don't pretend your faggy little fantasy faction or crazy old worlder are going to save the wasteland, they're just part of a larger problem with Fallout's world. Be happy with the choices you make and your motivations for them, they don't matter and never did. It's just a game.


730fd7 No.14238850

>>14238841

Caesar planned on settling the Legion after taking Vegas. Making Vegas his new capital. The Legion would likely continue existing indefinitely as some generic fascist state until some outside force takes them down. But even then its not that simple, because Legion is the only faction that seems to actually care about keeping the trade routes safe, so it's likely they'd have an economic advantage.


d0b431 No.14238859

File: 643ae8a7f21ea96⋯.png (375.08 KB, 654x477, 218:159, 1515042821920.png)

>>14238312

>>14234813

>female legionnaires

>>14238850

Nothing lasts forever. But when the Legion falls it will have transformed hundreds of petty tribes and integrated them all as equals under the state. (equally slaves, I mean)


eb833c No.14238862

>>14238850

I still think they're going to have major problems when Caesar dies, and even if you save him from cancer that will still happen. Would they "win" long-run? Maybe. It's fiction. The writer decides who "wins".


730fd7 No.14238869

>>14238862

>Last spoiler

Intentionality fallacy


eb833c No.14238872

>>14238869

>"the design or intention of the author is neither available nor desirable as a standard for judging the success of a work of literary art"

Anon, what the fuck are you even talking about?


b8f128 No.14238874

>>14238850

>legion

>fascist

Lol, no. It's more communism than anything else. Caesar is just a butthurt spic LARPing a civilization and political system he doesn't actually understand with his armies of niggers. But that's because the writer is a faggot and doesn't understand fascism or Rome.


f38395 No.14238880

File: 03a45c6e192053d⋯.jpg (179.16 KB, 1922x1391, 1922:1391, 03a45c6e192053d938e1ac1273….jpg)

>>14231737

>mfw I have all the essential mods installed for the game, but now there's so much that can be done I feel overwhelmed by the amount of content I can't bring myself to play it

This is so weird. I've never had this problem before.


3ed633 No.14238887


553659 No.14238888

>>14238850

Well that was the issue, right? Caesar got a hell of an ego boost playing the cult leader, but he knew a cult of personality only lasts as long as the personality. He needed Vegas to create a state to give permanence to the ideals and culture he was trying to drill into the tribals that would last after his death. Rome still has semi-mythical status in the world today as the "Eternal City" - even nearly 1,500 years after the western empire fell. He needed a state that would transcend him.

The biggest problem is, who succeeds him. If Lanius takes over - the Legion crumbles. Lanius just wants to fight and prove the strength of the Legion. Without an enemy, they'll atrophy and die - or wander looking for an enemy to test themselves against, and stretch themselves too thin until they collapse. Caesar specifically counted on a "synthesis" with the NCR - changing the Legion from a dictatorship under an empire - into a Republic like classic Rome.


eb833c No.14238892

>>14238880

This is why modding is over-rated. Mods are a good thing, but the concept of "too much of a good thing" is very real. With a game like New Vegas I find it's nice to keep the modding light and to mostly bugfixes (and Jsawyer Ultimate because it feels great). The games that require extensive modding to enjoy aren't usually worth it.


a53daa No.14238953

>>14238643

Read Mathew 27. Romans didn't kill Jesus. Rabbis bounded and took Jesus to the Roman Governor since they lacked the authority for execution. Any despite Governor Pilate fiding Jesus not guilty of any crime, the Jews forced Pilate into executing Jesus by threating revolt and claiming that they would message Rome that he was recoginzing Jesus as a King, which would usper Caesar's wrath.

>When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

>All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”


acae8d No.14239089

File: d7ebf97ba5c62d0⋯.jpg (52.66 KB, 500x375, 4:3, LotGH toast.jpg)


0cdb39 No.14239220

>>14238683

The legion was trying to get weapons from the van graff. Hardly anti tech.


2fb26b No.14239439

>>14238669

>They aren't going to make a spy into the leader.

>Implying that he wouldnt be able to promote himself as a successor of Cesar himself

Mind you that Praetorian Guard in late roman republic staged numerous coups and puppeted emperors


2fb26b No.14239449

>>14238733

>The brotherhood would like a word with you.

Do you even know what Salvaged Power amours are?

They have no servitors, there fore there is really not "power" in the power armor, its basically a big chunk of metal


2fb26b No.14239492

File: c26e392d240b09c⋯.jpg (66.54 KB, 720x687, 240:229, questioning_slut.jpg)

Does anybody know any good F:NV fan fiction?


8cc862 No.14239518

File: 6f4514729e0f533⋯.jpg (130.7 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, Aisaka.jpg)

>>14234813

Who is this semen demon?

>>14238312

>That pic

>Girl

1-800-cmon now

>>14238644

>>14238650

And yet they're kicking everyone elses ass.

>>14239492

I remember reading one a while back about the writers courier 6 meeting the protagonist from fallout 3 and the two fighting. The Lone wanderer brought BOS people IIRC and the writers courier 6 was a house bitch who was in love with him or something.


b895f3 No.14239536

>>14239492

Lewd, romantic, dramatic or action-based fan fiction?


2fb26b No.14239538

>>14239536

Any good, id like to see some "what if" scenario after the end of FNV or maybe about powerstuggles in the wastelands


ac300f No.14239829

>>14239518

>And yet they're kicking everyone elses ass

Not argument against the original point and the same could be said for Father Elijah with his Red Cloud. Legionfags keep glossing over how they lost the first Battle of Hoover Dam.

>>14239439

>Mind you that Praetorian Guard in late roman republic staged numerous coups and puppeted emperors

This isn't Rome and he doesn't command enough respect. Nobody but Caesar does and that is why they are fucked.


367372 No.14239832

>>14239492

Is that /leftypol/'s BO?


9c0667 No.14240747

>>14235361

Gotta love Survival

>first playthrough

>see survival

<this shit is useless, i have stimpaks

>second playthrough

<okay, let's see what is the deal with survival

<oh, hey, now food is really good, such a shame i have to carry different food and…

>MOTHER

>FUCKING

>THEM'S GOOD EATIN'

>TIME

Really, this shit is easy mode, survival is an underrated skill


3ed633 No.14241269

File: 9509fdf8df3e025⋯.webm (75.01 KB, 480x360, 4:3, mcbain.webm)

>>14238643

Pharisees ordered it. It's always the jews.

>>14239518

webm related

>>14239492

The nexus imageshare is mostly fanfic, but 98% of it is shit


9b2083 No.14241289

>>14239492

Go ask /fanfic/.


553659 No.14241986

>>14238953

>>14241269

>implying that the early Christians weren't just covering their own asses by shifting the blame off of the world-conquering take-no-shit empire who hated the Jews (who early Christians highly resembled - especially to pagan Roman eyes) and onto their neighbors who they already held a grudge against for rejecting their messiah and delivering him to the Romans.

Also, the Romans already acknowledged a king of the Jews. Caesar didn't give a shit, because Herod and his Son bent the knee to Rome - as did Jesus (render unto Caesar) for that matter.

> the Jews forced Pilate into executing Jesus by threating revolt

As if Jews revolting at that time was some kind of extraordinary occurrence that Rome could have avoided by bargaining. That it wasn't a threat levied at them on a near constant basis. You know how many claimed "messiahs" (who to the Jews required that they drive out foreigners and return Israel to the Jews) came out of Israel around that time? And you don't think that early Christians weren't trying to avoid getting caught up in the inevitable purge by painting the Romans as the good guys who dindu nuffin wrong.

And it was only… what… 30 years later that the Jewish-Roman wars began? And another 30~40 years after that a second Jewish-Roman war kicked up? And then a few years after that to the Bar Kokhba revolt/Third Jewish-Roman war where Hadrian finally got tired of the Jews shit and literally wiped Israel off the map.


3ed633 No.14242613

File: 0e440e7bc5b55d4⋯.png (342.17 KB, 1000x1011, 1000:1011, 0e440e7bc5b55d494da801df2b….png)

>>14241986

I'll let you have this one and concede to whatever point you might have made.


bc4b24 No.14245567

File: c84c5791367a0e2⋯.jpg (39.84 KB, 852x464, 213:116, c84c5791367a0e22626cd9466e….jpg)

>>14239492

Fallout: Lanius, Fallout: Nuka Break, and Fallout: Red Star




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