/v/ - Video Games

>>14222045

Forgot to mention

>Akechi's hamfisted last second redemption suicide

Every zelda game, if only because they all have one shit/tedious dungeon.

>>14222045

The firearms are fake because in Japan getting even a handgun requires deep Yakuza ties (Note there's a party member who gets fucking grenade launchers). While airsoft guns are about as easily obtainable as in Burgerland.

>>14222045

<no stage select

<cant skip cutscene without button presses with an option/flag toggled

>>14222045

I don't play shitty games, so this doesn't effect me.

>>14222127

Have you ever considered you may have outgrown children's media? Persona is shonen.

>>14222103

That sounds like a nightmare. What's the game's name?

>>14222157

EP is seinen, IS is just slightly edgy shonen.

>>14222127

For Persona 1, yeah, your character was an active delinquent who didn't give a shit about obtaining blackmarket firearms.

For Persona 3, SEES had government ties through the Kirijo Corporation. Them being able to get guns made sense.

For Persona 4, Naoto was a licensed agent of the law, meaning she can legally buy firearms for her work.

In Persona 5, it's just high school students. What's more, the underground arms dealer makes it very clear he'd never sell actual guns to you.

>>14222159

hotline miami 1 and 2

>>14222162

kick the bison, use holy water or a heal spell. greatly reduces the total time.

>>14222174

but there is a stage select in hotline miami 1 and 2.

>>14222161

> No amount of levels can prevent instant death, no amount of getting good can prevent instant death

I guess I was super lucky that it took me about five seconds to find that there's a safe corner in the boss zone to the hard back-left (might have been right actually, it's been a while) from which I could abuse my bow, but i agree, it's not a boss that's particularly fair for being able to get stuck in against.

>>14222045

Why do you want to replay a game that you didn't enjoy?

>>14222184

there's this one fucking level, that really ticks me off and is unskippable cutscene (or rather the animation needs to be played) where you start the fucking level and you're this gay fucking cop and you accidentally bash someones head to complete mush, but everytime EVERY SINGLE FUCKING TIME YOU HAVE TO WATCH THIS SHIT ANIMATION OVER AND OVER AND OVER ALL I WANTED IS MY FUCKING S RANK, I HATE IT. I FUCKING HATE IT.

Quick time events

>>14222185

getting the branches isn't so bad, it's getting to the stupid bug. That one jump took me hours. It's also bullshit that it's a boss that actively punishes heavy-weight characters.

>>14222196

>Aren't they also adding a super-powered Mary Sue into the remake of Strange Journey? What the hell happened to Atlus?

That one's a bit silly. She's your daughter from the future who you give to Louise Ferre to raise and gets sent back in time. You're forced to kill her and then fuck off to the moon and let the schwarzvelt consume the world.

>>14222207

>giving Lucifer your daughter to raise

>time travel

>killing your time travel devil-raised daughter

>go to the moon

Why can't they leave it alone? It was just stoic Doomguy on a mission to complete their mission while all his friends and allies either died, mutated or became faggots

The simplicity was fine. This is asinine

>Unskippable tutorials

>Unskippable scenes

I won't be replaying anything like Persona 3 because of how long it fucking takes before you can actually just go fuck around in the dungeon. There also has to be elements of the gameplay that are random or require skill. For example, point and click adventures or puzzle games that are hard only on your first playthrough. Not to say that those the games in those genres are bad, but some don't have replay value because of what you already know.

>>14222222

Absolutely amazing, checked

>>14222045

>shittalking Futaba

Makotoniggers get out and stay out

>>14222261

>that spoiler

I need a pic I can't believe that

>>14222235

Good points too

Myst can go vague hell

Man fuck the puzzle in the one spaceship palace with the levers. That was some bullshit and I hope whoever designed that puzzle gets fucking castrated.

>>14222162

>be mage

>it was piss easy because you can just heal the bison

>???

Get a mage you faggoo

>>14222261

>the stupid feminist pussy hat as a mandatory selection in the skin pool for one of the characters?

Hold the fuck up, what?

>>14222261

the only good part about Afterbirth was the shitstorm that happened after antibirth was way better than it without any modding tools whatsoever, and the salt realted to that. (The guy who created antibirth I'm pretty sure told nicalis to fuck off with porting shit over)

>>14222285

All the puzzles in P5 are easy piss except the crossword puzzle git gud

>>14222338

As a further example to state

Undertale released on PC in September 2015

and Afterbirth+ came out January 3 2017

And I might be remembering this wrong but at some point Nicalis contacted Toby about publishing Undertale on consoles.

>>14222359

>>14222338

Shit, I actually like Undertale even I'm disgusted. What a fucking hack.

>>14222045

>Futaba's dungeon orb-swap inanity

This isn't the first time I've seen this complaint, what's the problem with? It's not a good puzzle, sure, but it seems odd to single it out when none of the others in the game are much better.

>>14222285

Now this one was bullshit. I never figured it out, just bashed my head on it until I got lucky.

>>14222132

Someday's out there I wonder how many devs even play/replay their fucking games and think "you know this part is long and annoying, we should really fix it."

I'm surprised that the console manufactures still don't have some sort of licensing clause like no long (over X length) unskippable cutscenes for any game released on their hardware.

>>14222359

>>14222370

BoI one is probably based of Nightmare from Link's Awakening.

>>14222382

I'm sorry but last I checked nightmare had literally only one phase that was an enemy from the game itself.

Not to mention it was entirely black, and mostly solid.

I'm willing to excuse the "Boss that turns into other bosses" thing but come on you can't honestly pretend like that shit isn't trying to ape it with the laziest way to reuse assets.

Voiced self-narration and button prompts. Good thing the number of good games with both of these things can be counted on a single disfigured hand.

>>14222196

>"its retarded how the arms dealer with yakuza connections doesn't want to sell guns to teenagers."

The fact that this has to be explained to you means your the retarded one lad, they could shoot up their fucking school for all he knows, which can cause the police to track him down if the yakuza doesn't kill him and his family first.

>>14222400

Tried to get a picture of it but I ran out of Eden Tokens before rolling it.

>>14222470

When you put it like that I realize that the puzzles are just a microcosm for the whole game. The characters are slow as shit in all their realizations and decisions and you have to sit there listening to their crap until they catch up. The one time they're with you you're not made privy to it and it's supposed to be a tweest.

Still, I want to know why I've seen people singling out the orbs in pyramid in particular. I forget, was it particularly worse in that regard?

>>14222500

it was long, tedious, and every time you changed one of the orbs there was a cutscene. It was fucking obnoxious.

>>14222400

Isn't Benghazi a terrorist group or something anyways?

>>14222520

Xen wasn't as bad as everyone made it out to be. It was this shit that was the worst because it was tedious and boring to move around a giant rail maze.

>>14222544

It's a city in libya. What you're possibly thinking of is the Benghazi attacks. Which hillary clinton may be responsible for, however I am not entirely familiar with the subject.

>>14222045

F.E.A.R., but I never realize it until the last segment after you kill Fettel. So it's not like it keeps me from replaying as much as I quit after the replicas are offline.

>>14222215

Fuck no, i will never miss anything related to xenosaga ever. I still can't believe they were planning SIX FUCKING PARTS, of a cinematic walking simulator with a RPG tacked on to the side.

Also, black mesa, every time i get to the part where gordon gets throw in the trash i stop playing because i am just beyond bored at that point fucking around with the military goons.

>>14222590

Xenosaga isn't a walking simulator. However, 1 is a decent enough game and 3 is legitimately good. 2 is a fucking joke.

>>14222045

>friendship is magic that helps us summon Castlevania to kill Geometry

that's pretty much the entire series m8

>ALL of the firearms are fake

DO enlighten me as to where the fuck can japanes teenager get real firearms, it was alrready a strech in previous games that schoolkids could buy guns and swords in the local shopping district, this game at least found a convinient excuse

>Futaba's dungeon orb-swap inanity

what's wrong with the dungeons having puzzles? are you really so dumb you had trouble solving them?

>that whole bitch-fit between Morgana and Ryuji

true dat, shoehorned pointles drama at it's finest

>Haru's Dad's dungeon (ask questions bruh)

you've never played a RPG before m80?, talking to NPCs is not exclusive to Persona

>that story-breaking stupid and inexplicable TWIST

there were a lot of twist so you're gonna have to be more specific

>Shido's dungeon

git gud

>COGNITIVE PSCIENCE SON

>Not liking that scene…

that was the devs gift to internet memesmiths, how could you hate it?

>restrictions on location and movements due to having to unlock them as the story progresses and/or with specific confidant links

duh. dp you want everything served on a silver plater?

>cell shading makes it impossible to see Makoto's ass clearly

that's what doujins are for

>Futaba

>hating Futaba

>>>/oven/

>Akechi's hamfisted last second redemption suicide

you and i know very well Akechi is alive and kicking in the upcoming DLC or spin off

also

>not mentioning "I hate my dad so i'm gonna make him a prime minister, that'll show him!"

ace detective?

more like ace defective

>>14222161

>bed of chaos is hard

I hate this meme. Sure, some aspects of the boss are unreasonable, like how it has an incredible reach and it can sweep you off into the void with one attack, but once you learn where you can stand to shoot its vines and then rush to its core, you're mostly fine. At that point, you just have to watch out for firestorm, but even if you get hit by it, you should be able to tank it and have more than enough estus to get you to through. Not only that, it has fucking checkpoints, so if you die you don't even have to go through the entire fight from the beginning.

I would have preferred an actual fight, but this boss is about as annoying as Dragon God in DeS. Once you figure out how it works, you can reliably defeat it most of the time and without too much effort.

>>14222590

>SIX FUCKING PARTS

fuck you, i want those missing games.

>>14222045

not so much something that turns me off from a replay

this thing turns me off from a first playthrough even

>game has a fantasy/sci-fi setting with several diferent races

>player is forced to main a shitty human

THIS SHIT RIGHT HERE IS WHAT REPLES ME LIKE GARLIC REPELS VAMPIRES

I fuckin loooooooooooooooooooove Divinity Original Sin 2

But the fact that i can only play as a filthy Human in the frist game is what keeps me away

you wouldn't believe my disapointment, after hours of waiting for it to download to go to the character creator screen and be stuck with shitty humans in a world were there are 6 different inteligent races and their undead counterparts

>>14222045

>inexplicable TWIST

twist was something clever designed specifically for prior fans of the series

if you think it's inexplicable you're probably just one of the many newfags who picked up the game because of PS4's lack of games

disguising the twist as a recasting was genius

>>14222675

He's probably talking about Goro.

>>14222370

You mean nicalis/edmund right?

>>14222696

that one was pretty obvious

>>14222453

oh come on

>>14222673

i live surrounded by human filth 24/7 and you expect me to be one during my escapism?

especially when i could be a reptilian dragon, a viking dwarf or a vampire elf?

it's to bad i can't get goblings or imps as playable characters in my party cus between my necromancer elf, polymorph reptilian, stanic undead sorceror and big nosed dwarf i literally have jewest party ever

>futaba

If anything she's the only reason to play that shitpile at all.

Op has shit taste.

>>14222568

If you want something more in-depth, read the book written by that guy who was there, or watch the movie based on it if you don’t have the attention span it wasn’t that bad

>Libya had turned into a violent hellhole after Gaddafi got overthrown

>U.S. has a small presence in the country for diplomacy and espionage, of course

>U.S. ambassador goes to Benghazi for diplomatic trip

>very little security at the place he’s staying

>the contractors there providing security asked for more help from the State Department (i.e. the thing Hillary Clinton is in charge of at the time)

>they get blown off

>fast-forward to the night of the attacks

>a bunch of terrorists storm the place the ambassador is staying

>they overwhelm the defenses and set the place on fire

>the contractors rush over to help fight them off

>they rescue as many staff as they can, but the ambassador is nowhere to be found

>they get back to the CIA compound the contractors were there to defend

>the terrorists begin to attack the CIA compound

>this whole time, they are requesting backup from anyone in the area

>there are U.S. military nearby that could have gotten there quickly, but the State Dept kept them from going in because they didnt want to cause a “diplomatic incident”

>when you hear people talking about Hillary debating what uniforms the soldiers should be wearing, this is what they’re referring to

>after a night of getting mortared by the terrorists and several deaths, they finally get rescued by some local allies

>the ambassador turns up dead in a local hospital sometime later

and now to discuss Washington’s response

>this whole fiasco happened shortly before the 2012 election

>Obongo administration desperately tries to explain away letting a terrorist attack on a U.S. embassy it was technically a consulate, but same difference happen due to negligence

>Hillary finally comes out and says the attack was a "spontaneous protest” of a anti-Muslim video made by an American filmmaker

>the filmmaker gets arrested, because fuck free speech

>we know now that Hillary knew at the time that she was spouting bullshit

>there was intelligence that suggested there would be an organized attack, but nobody took it seriously

>Congress launches an investigation into the attack that reveals Hillary was lying

>it also happened to reveal that she had a certain e-mail server at her home

and the rest is history

>>14222780

thanks for the tl;dr.

>>14222740

Well yeah, OP brought up retarded points, Persona 5 has way bigger problems for replayability than what he brought up, here's two I can think up right now:

>no real new content for replaying outside of a boss battle

>since you now know the story going day by day is a slog

They at least have a FF option now, but these new persona games should give more NG+ content to make a second playthrough worthwhile, they could have made the costumes and personas that were DLC available for purchase in some NG+ shop, that would have been nice.

>>14222795

Like

Gameplay is shit

Story is shit

Everything is shit

Except futaba.

You have shit taste as well.

>>14222045

Just slow starts in general, specially unskippable tutorials.

Having to go through all the effort of getting past many parts i've already played is already annoying, but if on top of that it also forces me to through some slow shitty phase that treats me like an idiot, i just scratch the game off my backlog and pretend i've never played it.

>>14222808

>Everything is shit except Futaba.

This is why Nu Persona never gets any respect.

The Director is on a constant nostalgia trip for his high school years, and the fanbase is full of Tumblr types and waifufags.

>>14222810

Persona 3 added monad as well, so you had ~10 new floors and then eventually Elizabeth's fight. P3 has pretty much been the height of post-game content so far.

>>14222675

>twist was something clever designed specifically for prior fans of the series

>clever

It was retroactively injected and the entire framing device of the interrogation is proof of it. We've been over this.

>>14222828

I'm confused. Did you post the wrong image or something?

>>14222903

He's talking about Igor, friend. Not Goro.

>>14222896

The melee weapons are replicas too.

>>14223004

>The melee weapons are replicas too.

…No, that's ridiculous. There's no way.

I don't remember that.

>>14222828

>This fucking bullshit right here.

What is this?

>>14222718

I can't imagine playing Diablo 2 on my phone…

>>14222222

The Hexes of Truth

>>14223056

Yeah, they're all movie props. Persona 5 has less balls than Persona 4. At least in Persona 4 your weapons were real (minus the aptly named "Imitation Katana" you could get at the beginning)

>>14222255

It's not even that i hate the game but i doubt i'll ever want to replay it now even for an easy platinum or in a rerelease form because i just remember those bullshit sections like turning into a fucking mouse in the ship dungeon which only serves the purpose to waste your fucking time running back and forth or how many in game days it takes before you get full access to the map and S.Links

>>14223121

>Infuse some knife with a god or demon's soul

>Get a fake ornamental knife

This one is on the twins

Act 3 of MGS4. What a mess.

>>14222162

I find this one hard to replay no matter how many times I try due to how tedious, generic, and annoying the quests get (especially the escort missions). Unless you force yourself to play as a different vocation you're not used to, the game will always play the same way each time, so if you do everything in the game (which is possible), you feel less motivated to go through it again. It has fun combat compared to most games like it, but it gets stale after a while.

A lot of games these days suffer this and what others mentioned, not having the same replayablility as a lot of older games. It seems intentional to make people want to only play it once then never play it again and maybe sell it later. The devs don't care since they already got people's money. Few now actually make the effort to make their games replayable and worth the price they charge.

>>14222163

Weird I just started innocent sin and I’m not getting the edgy vibes from the game. Does it happen later on? Cause right now It’s actually kinda funny, interacting with the characters I mean

>>14223323

To be fair everything after Laughing Octopus is a mess, really. That wolf one wasn't too bad but Act 3 really sets the point of no return

>>14224004

don't they become real in the personaverse

>>14222162

Why was this even a mission? You would reckon the Duke would just call you a dumbshit for bringing him the single head of a Hydra. It doesn't prove shit.

>>14224046

I really like DD but I forgot what it even did. Wasn't your mockery of a reception simply because of you being the Arisen?

Maybe the whole thing was just Mercedes trying to justify her existence and "knightlyness". I do like how she is essentially a realistic depiction of what would happen to a woman if she tried being tuff

>>14223348

Why would you buy a game you don't plan to replay?

Why would you even download one?

But you know, I don't even think that's the worst part about afterbirth+

The worst part is that they're probably going to use "Boosterpacks" to justify keeping the game full price.

>>14224098

>I really like DD but I forgot what it even did. Wasn't your mockery of a reception simply because of you being the Arisen?

That, and he also saw you as a threat to his throne.

>>14222045

I still struggle with the game's themes myself, I honestly hate the whole "we're rebels XD adults are shit LOL" motif so fucking much that I had to ask a few friends that also had the game why they liked the theme so much. As much shit as it gets, Persona 4 was much easier to digest.

>>14222622

>even if you get hit by it, you should be able to tank it and have more than enough estus to get you to through

I have never been able to survive that attack, even with a lot of health.

>>14224294

Watch the cutscene movie of 2 and play 3. It turns out Shion's being a dumb bitch is an important plot point, not poor characterization.

>>14224974

I'll go for the cutscenes of 2 then. It's always good to have workout material anyway. Good to know because that was one of the biggest sticking points for me

>>14225003

Guns are direly important for a lot of people here, it's best to just go with it.

>>14225050

They're not that complex, they're just massive.

>>14225050

8/10 bait very impressive, I almost took you seriously for a full minute

>>14222828

Anon struggles with counting musical beats: Zelda edition.

>>14224118

>I still can't believe that interesting space opera ended on the most retarded note of "and the sexy robot is Mary and the shota is Yeshua (Hebrew for Jesus) and Shota Yeshua and Mary's spirits go into the big robot"

It ended with them quickly wrapping things up for Xenogears, The Gnosis/U-DO are trapped in the Zohar, Nephilim becomes Elly, Abel makes contact with the Zohar and Shion fucks off to crossover with SRW or something.

>>14225027

>they're such a chore to go through and even with the 3D map it's easy to get lost

The worst part is there are dungeons which are impossible to complete without cheats if you get quests in them.

>>14224078

>personas limited to the metaverse

It’s been like this since Persona 3, can’t summon your persona outside of the dark hour, can’t summon your persona outside of the TV world Except that one dungeon later in the game probably to distinguish persona from stands.

>>14222776

Both Dragon god and Bed of Chaos are over in like 3-5 minutes a piece. BoC is stupid but brief, I don't know why it would prevent you from replaying.

>>14224318

I always see people focus on that theme. The problem I had with it was how hypocritical it is considering 1) All the weapons, healing items, and armor were all purchased from adults

2). It’s general teen angst that I hate to see because it reminds me of when I was an angsty teen and it embarrasses me.

3) as soon as Sae and Sojiro get in the know, it defeats the purpose of “lol, kid power XD.”

>>14225168

Persona in general is heavy teenager pandering, they just went straight for the jugular this time.

>>14222520

I really don't get the On A Rail meme, I have fun in that chapter every time I play through it. I guess I can understand Power Up as it's linear even by HL standards with not much variety

For me Half-Life is one of the few games that doesn't have any of "those" moments which hamper enjoyment when replaying, Residue Processing isn't great but it's short and a good time for a change of pace.

>>14225259

Aside from that retarded map where you have to fly on those alien ships to reach a teleporter, it really isn't that bad. Also it's so late in the game that at that point you may as well just finish it.

Everything until you leave traverse town in Kingdom Hearts 1.

That's one thing that turn me off from JRPG's in general, the way too long prologue sections.

>>14225150

But what about that redhead who was getting choked out by her Persona during the day?

It wasn't utilized but it was shown that Persona can be summoned outside the DH. They just didn't do it because it'd be pointless and could lead to massive destruction

P4 was vague about it as well

P5 is the one that is blunt about that

>>14222338

Cry more, soy/pol/.

>>14225444

>Sperging about having to sign and agreement in a game

Something tells me this person has visagekabbalah.

>>14225432

I think the complaint for "fake vs real guns" is more about people complaining that the overall tone of the series isn't as serious as it used to be.

P3 was pretty grim with some characters dying permanently but it was what added some sense of danger and finality to it. Some characters even had real firearms, which added to the danger. The tone of the game demanded that some aspects of the game were to be taken seriously. P4 and P5 on the other hand took a more light-hearted approach, and P5 having what should have been a really bad-ass and serious concept got turned into pop-guns and do-overs. Fatlus CAN do gritty drama and edgyness together as shown in Catherine, but for whatever reason, they want Persona to stay as some kind of light-hearted high-school superfriends romp.

I vividly remember when P4 was coming out and I only had a few glimpses of the trailers, I thought we were moving on from the high-school theme and into a more adult world without the teenage drama (which would later be seen in Catherine). When all was said and done, I still favored my initial impression of the game.

>>14225352

The first is trivial, the second is optional and trivial, the third is skippable entirely with no repercussion, only the fourth is any hard and he's optional.

I think you just have brain damage.

>>14225517

I have a Nip friend and he tells me their gun laws are worse than Europe.

You aren't even allowed to store ammo in the same place as the gun.

>>14225526

Same in Europe

>>14223059

>>14222914

I'm I the only one that played Spirit Tracks here?

>>14225587

Depends where in europe you live I suppose.

Where I live I can keep my ammo with my funs.

>>14225524

>There was still SOME degree in variation in the Ghirahim fights. This motherfucker is my personal hate factory.

I really wanted to like that game but man you hit it on the head

>>14222045

>Once you get Makoto in the game, the second half of the plot degrades and everyone (except Yusuke and somewhat of Joker) turn into idiots just so the writers and devs can make Makoto smart.

>Game goes on rails mode, and some days, you can't even go out.

>Morgana being a shit starter, and you waste days just to find his sorry ass

>unnecessary bitch fight between said cat and Ryuji

>cannot shut Makoto up during battles

>Average soundtrack, and only a few songs are nice to listen

>the fucking mouse segments

>Akechi trying to be sympathetic, but in the end it's all about pancakes

>Hifumi would of been a team mate, but the devs scrapped that idea

>The fact that this is Miyu Matsuki's last performance

Five years of development, and at the end of the day, the game is just a watered down P2.

Persona was never good in the first place

RE4 island mostly sucks ass. I play to the end of the castle and quit every time.

>>14222601

>No part of that identifies or can be classified as Zettai Ryouki

Fucking pleb.

>>14222045

You could have summed up this entire post with

>handholding

>>14222196

He had Yakuza ties but he had quit almost all the dirty business, in fact his entire route is about a Yakuza asking him to make fake guns because the dumbass got conned by chinks. He can't even get real guns but the Yakuza want his fucking fakes. There's no way gecko man is getting his hands on actual guns anymore. It's already illegal for him to be making realistic air soft.

>>14226875

The first area and up to Krauser or the scorpion guy, I forget which comes first, is all right but everything past it is just kind of bleh.

>>14225587

>>14222828

No anon, you're not alone. That stupid flute blowing fucked me up too.

>>14227108

the way dark souls does weapon degration is nice. You get a !WEAPON AT RISK! warning before it breaks and you can take it to the smith to get it repaired, or do it yourself. If they just made it so weapons dropped like in DaS it'd be perfect.

>>14222045

The guns bullshit in 5 is stems from the same place where the king's game part in 4 comes from "B-B-B-BUT IT'S NOT A REAL DRICK HAHAXD WE WOULD NEVER SHOW TEENS WHO ARE NOT LEGALLY ALLOWED TO DRINK, DRINKING HAHAHAXD THEY JUST PRETEND TO GET DRUNK XDXDXDXD". It's probably some japanese legal bullshit, rating system abuse or their way of virtue signaling because they're ant-people who can't disobey rules.

>>14227088

>She literally hallucinated this

No I mean with her uncle. Her uncle took her in after the mom died and before Sojiro could take her. It's all mentioned - and only in passing - during Sojiro's confidant link after you get Futaba in the party

Is this thread so full of obnoxious faggots because OP is an obnoxious faggot or did cuckchan or reddit shit some more invaders onto this board?

Anyway, Lyndis' campaign of Fire Emblem 7 are a braindead grind if you try to replay that game from the beginning (or have any familiarity with the series/genre beforehand).

>>14227181

>implying asians aren't rule obessed robots who can't think outside the box ever

What planet are you from? Shit like this is all over nip games and anime. They censor everything that "good" characters do that could possibly be against the law in nipland. Here's a few examples.

>Jotaro got his cigarette censored because he's supposedly a high-schooler

>dozens of "it's not le reals drank because they highschool but they get drunk anywayzXDDDD" in all sorts of media to the point it's a fucking meme now on the level of festival and hot springs visits

>But if you kill the bad guy you'll be just like him!

>In death note that one faggot cop refuses to take a gun when it was offered to him because "bububut i'm ont a cop anymore das illegal yo!

>on a more related note in p3 they also pulled the but das guns not realzxDDD, but I guess it's kind of explainable since the characters shoot themselves all the fucking time with them

It's fucking cringeworthy all around when they create a scene and then tack on these shitty excuses on how it's not what it seems to be because it's illegal in japan or because good guys can't do "bad" things or whatever the fuck.

>>14227269

>on a more related note in p3 they also pulled the but das guns not realzxDDD, but I guess it's kind of explainable since the characters shoot themselves all the fucking time with them

The biggest blue balls moment in that game was when they set up a totally blatant "DON'T WANT YOU MIXING UP YOUR EVOKER WITH A REAL GUN" and never doing anything at all with it.

>>14227269

>>on a more related note in p3 they also pulled the but das guns not realzxDDD, but I guess it's kind of explainable since the characters shoot themselves all the fucking time with them

What's retarded is they made the tool look like a gun, not that the gun is fake. I've never seen an adequate explanation for why it needed to be a gun, especially when doggo can just have that shit integrated into his color apparently?

>>14227284

>team member accidentally kills themselves with a real gun

What a twist!

>>14227269

I don't know why it takes porn just to have human protagonists with a fucking attitude.

>>14227290

>>14227284

In p3 the characters actually do kill themselves and those are very real guns. The explanation is that when they do kill themselves their conciousness is simply transported to an alternate universe where they didn't, and in the process physially summoning their persona because they just tore a hole the space-time continuum by supposedly dying when they shouldn't have.

>>14227346

>>14227284

That spoiler is sick but you know you just made that up.

I don't play Monster Hunter any more because I already learned all the moves and tells a monster makes so I just do my usual play style. Though I should try other weapons to change it up.

>>14227361

What do you think about MHWorld?

>>14227377

Why would I want to play the dumbed down version of the game? So many casual changes I won't bother.

>inb4 you try to mock me.

I mean I'll play it, if I get to teach someone and play with firends irl and show them how to play but only irl.

>>14227384

>Why would I want to play the dumbed down version of the game? So many casual changes I won't bother.

That's a fair assessment. Why would I mock you?

Casuals get mocked. Only casuals mock anons who dump on casuals

>>14227386

Even if it was only guns doing to the trick I can't imagine it would work more than once.

>>14227368

>>14227358

>>14227386

>>14227403

>And of course yukari is freaked out by the idea of even using the damn thing, so it can't be pleasant.

Exactly, because she knows it's a real gun and it will kill her.

To say it in more simple terms the characters summon their personas by jumping through alternate universes untill they find the right one. You could also look up that quantum mechanics experiment with the gun, where a dude holds a loaded gun to his head and says that right now he created an alternate universe where he died becuase he shot himself with the gun.

>>14227422

>researchers

>in the game

>that makes shitty excuses about shooting yourself with not real funs and getting drunk with not real drinks

>>14227437

As I said earlier >>14227290 it's stupid it looks like a gun, but you can't rewrite canon just because it's dumb you faggot. That's canon now, you can't undo it.

>>14227394

There's one dude who seems to love MH world on /v/.

>>14227514

Why would you expect something the series hasn't been in over a decade?

>>14227517

Just look at it! Thieves in mask and guns in all the promo. I figured it would be half 3 half 4 at worst, maybe it is cause it can't be gayer than 4.

>>14227526

It reeked of overcompensation to me. When the player characters actually think they're some elite team of badasses I can't really take it seriously any more.

>>14227530

Shido couldn't testify, he was shooed out of the public eye due to "mental fatigue" or something like that. He was no longer a credible witness due to "diagnosed mental instability".

>>14227290

In Japan, it wasn't an evoker. It was just a gun. Summoning a persona involves overcoming your fear of death

On the game design end, it was inspired by the teen suicide rate in Japan

>>14227562

>He was no longer a credible witness due to "diagnosed mental instability".

Did they say that? They would need to say that since "mental fatigue" doesn't discredit anything he would have done.

>>14227581

>In Japan, it wasn't an evoker. It was just a gun.

So what, did they censor the English release even though it was fucking rated M?

>>14227533

Well the things listed aren't total deal breakers, just minor annoyances I would have discovered on my own, I'm sure the game is still good but as an edgelord I want them to push the envelope.

>>14227541

This is a problem I have with anime shit in general, they'll have this awfully bleak situation or setting with demons and death all around, yet still try to keep shit PG-13. Especially in anime where you'll have people fighting with crazy super powers and skill that would mean death is always a hair away, yet no one of significance ever dies, or the villain dies in a way that allows the mc to keep his hands clean, or just joins the gang.

>>14227604

>they'll have this awfully bleak situation or setting with demons and death all around, yet still try to keep shit PG-13.

B-but muh wide audiences! Muh shekels!

I cannot replay most games because I remember the entire fucking game, and it's chore slogging through it again. I'll never play Dragon's Dogma again, I can't get into Dark Souls. I didn't even play long enough to die before I got tired of it. They're both more work than fun to me. For RPGs, I cannot replay than for AT LEAST twenty years after I've beaten them, and even then, it's a race against eh, fuck it.

>>14227604

Persona as a series is basically that one kid in school who thought he was hot shit but his voice would crack the moment the teach got onto him.

>>14227614

I like the weeb stuff too, but I think its hurts the narrative potential when they turn their back on the grimdark elements in favor of more power of friendship shit. One thing I remember about p1 and 2 was that there was this surreal feeling in the world, like everything was slowly going to hell, and doing things like going to the black market to buy guns only reiterated that. Now I feel like its more about trying to separate the bad world from the good world so they can play pretend somewhere while also being normal good boys and girls where it matters.

>>14227604

>yet no one of significance ever dies

that's not the persona series I know

Games that are too linear with little character customization or choices that effect the world and story. One of the games I went back to the most was morrowind because it was so massive with many questlines, and it was so hard to cover ground with its prehistoric quest log and vague directions. Nowadays you can blow through games like skyrim because its so easy to get from point a to point b.

Jrpgs are really hard to replay because they take hours to get rolling.

>>14227853

>Jrpgs are really hard to replay because they take hours to get rolling.

They didn't used to be like this. Hell, there's entire games about sailing that don't give you a boat as quickly as the first Final Fantasy did.

>>14227269

>>14227293

Let me clarify that, so I don't sound remotely retarded.

I don't know why it's so fucking hard for anyone to have protagonists bend their morals about life and law when absolutely necessary or especially for Japan to let themselves enjoy a pair of tits and just awkwardly apologize for accidentally walking in regardless if they're lovers, never sperg out.

>>14227927

The only reason I can imagine they do it is to not have the inevitable anime look like overly censored shit in comparison. Unless the entire company is just filled with pussyfooted shitheads.

When I heard Persona 5 was getting firearms I was hoping that it would have STALKER-tier /k/, but instead they are toys apparently. And hearing that Persona 1 had some LICENSED firearms is pretty disappointing too.

Thanks-a-fucking-lot Eric and Dylan, all you had to do is wait for a few months.

>>14222828

I still don't understand why people thought the flute playing was hard. All you need to do is blow and slide the flute with the stylus.

>>14224078

Honestly the part that bugged me the most was the buildup to Akechi's betrayal and the "death" of the MC. Your party, which has been dumber than a bag of rocks for the entire game thus far, engineer some elaborate body-double prison break to bust the MC out of police custody; and your not privy to it because drugs or some shit (even though you know Akechi is gonna betray your ass anyway). It's incredibly poor writing just to "trick" the player into thinking the MC's dead, but why would anyone think that when there's like half the game left? And why the hell does your social link with Akechi go up right before he shoot's the MC's cognition in the Metaverse? That doesn't even make sense. Why does Akechi think he can take the phantom thieves on in an 8v1 battle in Shido's dungeon? I'd chalk it up to his ego, but you'd think he'd have a better plan than that. Apart from that, the puzzles suck. Christ, the floor puzzles in the final dungeon were so dumb, am I playing a AAA JRPG or an online flash game?

The battle system is pretty good, even though it will take half the game to flesh it out via Confidant abilities. Most of the confidants were pretty cool; I liked helping Sojiro mend his relationship with Futaba, Iwai and Yoshida were alright, and Takemi and Kawakami were great. Actually, all the Confidants that were adults were almost always better than the teenagers.

>>14225003

>1.)drool

>2.)drool harder

>3.)the correct choice

>4.)""""witty""""

If I made a drinking game out of P5 where I had to take a drink everytime a character asks the MC some dumb bullshit and the responses don't matter, I'd probably be in a coma by Kamoshida's palace.

>>14228150

>If I made a drinking game out of P5 where I had to take a drink everytime a character asks the MC some dumb bullshit and the responses don't matter,

Literally every time. Main reason the game doesn't hold up to replays. You always go correct choice which has the least repetitive dialogue and gives you a verbal pat on the back and nothing happens. Or you pick the """""witty""""" choice if you're some faggy redditor and maybe you get a kek or two over a playthrough. Either way, when you replay nothing of value ever changes, except perhaps the points towards confidants, which means you have optimal dialogue options that you have even more incentive to always do. And if you do choose one of the moron options characters just waste your time explaining things to you like you're a mental retard.

The lack of post-game content (aside from Caroline and Justine), the events that are always duds, the constant fake-outs and cuck-outs in the plot (Ann's friend should have killed herself for real, Ryuji should have died, Morgana should have sacrificed himself, we should have seen Akechi's corpse mangled beyond any hope of survival, etc.) , and the number of days that involve literally fucking nothing are all the more reasons you need not to replay P5. Honestly the dungeon design even at its most bloated isn't enough to deter a replay, but the lack of value in the main plot is the real problem. Maybe P5 the inevitable improvement might be worth a replay, but Atlus is adept at adding worthless shit to re-releases that actually makes them worse.

Platforming+specific sections where the camera suddenly isn't player controlled

>>14225352

all the story relevant blockheads are pretty easy, blockhead grande is legit bullshit but just record it with your cell phone real quick and copy it because most human monkey brains shit out trying to memorize more than 5-6 items that quickly

There are definitely a few but the most memorable story related ones comes from Tales of the Abyss.

>main character finally starts showing some growth out of acting like a seven year old

>rest of party having a positive influence on him, even if they are also dicks and cunts

>his mentor shows up and he becomes an even bigger brat than he was at the start

>essentially every member of the party knows the mentor is bad news one was even working with the mentor to take revenge on the MC's family, though he apparently learned to like the MC after basically raising him

>rest of party gets fed up with his self centered bullshit and let him get brainwashed by the mentor

>drop his ass when they get to where they need to go with the most important person in the party, the shota pope, and the mentor that no one trusts

>this turns out to be a bad decision as shota pope and MC trust the mentor and he leads them into destroying the place. Which doesn't make any sense because the mentor can do it on his own, or at least with a little help from his subordinates

>turns out this was part of a prophesy

>bunch of people in power knew this was going to happen, and planned on it due to it leading to an age of prosperity for MC's kingdom and then everyone dying

>MC throws a bitch fit and all the spine he was showing disappeared outside of a few instances when he shit talks other party members in lighter moments

>party repeatedly brings this up, even as more and more it gets revealed that they knew that the MC shouldn't have been left with his mentor unsupervised

>and that he was just a clone made to fulfill the prophesy since the one who fulfilled it was supposed to die. One party member knows that from the start and another figures it out prior to any of this

>they also criticize him for his lack of spine despite being the ones that crushed it

>most party members don't have any self reflection about this, and the ones that do either pass it off, or let the MC pass it off for them

The biggest joke is that the MC is actually seven years old, and was spoiled because his parents were scared of losing their son after their real son got kidnapped. Guy only really started doing what was best for him after it was too late, and of course knew that the fucking mentor that Luke had a bad case of hero worship for was helping him try to kill Luke's family. The only reason that part of the prophecy went off was because it was a self fulfilling one. No one thought Luke was fit to go, had he known he wasn't even supposed to fulfill it, then he wouldn't have gone because outside of fighting, he was a lazy fucker.

Otherwise slow starts and unskippable cutscenes will prevent me from playing a game again.

>>14228719

>Abyss

I can't believe I forgot this one. Nicely done, man

I don't remember why anyone said it was the best Tales game

>>14222157

The same type of shonen as phantom blood. While P5 is literally Baccano!

>>14222050

>>14228150

>>14222618

>>14222896

>>14224078

>>14226666

>>14226843

>>14228150

>>14228242

Still hanging on to the hope that Akechi becomes some kind of NG+ bonus character. This is Aerith-level "Killing a party member I need" tier shit.

>>14227767

I was asking for clarification you dipshit, don't "my grorious nipponese version" bullshit me.

>>14222597

Why is xenosaga 2 worse than the first? Haven't had the occasion to get to it.

>>14228764

It has pretty damn fun combat for the 20ish hours of the game you can actually play.

>>14222520

Are there any more renders of entire chapters like that?

As autistic as it sounds I like to leave every vidya world the way it is. It's why I like to 100% games because that way I don't feel guilty at not seeing everything through

>>14222162

It's like 20 total minutes at most, my guy. I've honestly never understood how this segment makes people not want to play the game.

>>14230717

also that webm

>confusing early Christian tradition with proto-Gnosticism

That professor is worse than Kermit.

something also tells me he was a Jew, can't put my finger on it

>>14228951

Well that was some shit I didn't need to read.

Thanks.

South Park the Stick of Truth is the first game that I finished and went "wow that was pretty good but I have absolutely zero desire to play it again." It was funny, like watching an episode of the show. The combat was serviceable but not what I'd call good. And I managed to 100% it the first time without really trying. I guess the whole reason I was playing it was to explore and find more funny dialogue and easter eggs, and to progress the story because it meant, again, more funny dialogue. It wasn't actually fun. It barely had gameplay. And that's the falling of all games that rely too much on storytelling because their writers are a bunch of liberal arts faggots waving their dicks around about how much story matters. It's good once, but when you're done with it, you're really done with it. It's not gonna happen differently a second time. And there's nothing else to fuck around with and do, no ways to play it differently to challenge yourself or try something new.

>>14222045

The entire thing holds your hand too much and all the faggots communicate extremely sensitive information through their fucking cellphones. They dropped the corruption theme at the end to pull a God final boss out of their ass given life not by corruption, but by sloth. The whole thing is a mess. Cake was delicious though.

>>14230634

Has there ever been a good escort mission?

>>14235778

Killer is dead

Though it's the other kind of escort

>>14222200

That got its dick sucked waaay too hard for the bullshit it actually was.

>>14222161

>you have to walk all the way back through the mob of enemies

Nigger, enemy placement in that area was garbage and unfinished. You can easily run past everything.

>>14222198

>It's also bullshit that it's a boss that actively punishes heavy-weight characters.

You do know can just take all your armor off, right? You don't really need it for this "fight".

>>14236158

You can make your character light-weight on the fly. That does not mean a boss doesn't punish heavy-weight characters.

>>14235094

>Endgame revolves almost entirely around hours of autistic drop farming to collect everything

This was actually a positive aspect of GBA games for me. I couldn't get too many games so any game that had content like that was great.

It sucks nowadays if I ever want to play through these games but they knew exactly what heir audience wanted back then.

>>14222896

OP makes an incredibly important point here. If all the weapons are fake, why the hell are you getting fake weapons from sacrificing demons in the velvet room?

>>14236252

The "fake guns" thing is restricted to the guns that the air soft guy sells you, demon's giving you guns are a completely separate thing. You'll notice that the airsoft guy can't upgrade every gun in the game, only certain air soft one's he himself sells or you find. Of course there's also the fact that much like demon's themselves in the metaverse, those weapons can't be taken or activated into the real world. So while they may be "real" in the context of the metaverse, that still doesn't mean they could bring them to the real world.

>>14236460

There is not a single gun in the game that can be obtained from both a demon execution and for purchase from Untouchable. However, there are 2 guns that can be found in random chests in palaces as well as for purchase, but that's a different situation.

>>14236418

Also

>those weapons can't be taken or activated into the real world.

This is never stated anywhere as far as I recall, so you're just pulling shit out of your ass here. How then, can you sell shit you find in the metaverse, or get yen? Sure, the big "treasure" always changes when you leave after completing a dungeon, but none of the things loot change otherwise. Not even precious gems.

>>14236480

you loot*

>>14236460

>On the reverse side

>>Boss you're supposed to lose to

>>Win anyway

>>Signifcant changes are made to the following cutscene and a bonus reward is given

>Image related.

I wish more games would do with the later Wild ARMs games do for plot battles. Generally how it works is there is a turn limit of four to ten rounds (boss actions), at the end of which the fight will end. In this time, you are encouraged to play as aggressively as possible because at the end of battle you get as much cash and exp as you do damage, so inflict 1000 damage get 1000 bucks and 1000 exp. This is also how the grinding enemies work.

>>14236242

I know that feeling, I just beat Vanquish for the first time last night.

>>14235927

The people sucking its dick now are posing estrogen-ridden faggots pretending they played the earlier ones like any other loser scene faggot.

>>14236755

>the earlier ones

Isn't there only 2?

>>14237399

What fire emblem?

>>14241967

The one with the really bad Smash character that sucks ass that was only released in Japan.

>>14222721

Quit living around niggers and quit choosing nigger characters faggot.

>>14222045

Minigames, unskippable cutscenes and QTE's.

>Bayonetta

>want to replay one of the better bosses in the game (Jeanne)

>she is literally behind 2 Space Harrier sections.

>fight Iustitia (giant plant boss with vines coming out of mouths)

>every time to combo the vine/tongues, you have to watch Bayonetta charge up her magic hand slice, and then slice like a mini cutscene.

The same information can be gotten across without it.

That game has a bunch of mini-cutscenes that can't be skipped.

This is one of the reasons why I like Devil May Cry more.

>>14243009

He was just in it for the desu dragon pussy.

>>14225222

>AR charging handle on a revolver

Hahahaha never change nips. Though to be fair they've gotten somewhat better at designing weapons.

>>14226875

Came to post this exact part. I love the game but the island is utter shit compared to the first half.

>>14226875

But the castle is where things get spooky

>>14243009

>By the time you actually face him, you've got a collection of brokenly powerful weapons including the single most overpowered one in the series

You what? Even the Ragnell is stronger than Eckesachs, and that's not getting into the bullshit from Jugdral.

>>14246892

Why even bother talking about FE? It's always been a grindy RNG-2-Win piece of shit series. Doesn't matter if you have superior "tactics" or "strategy" when being lucky trumps all battles.

ded

>Fallouts of any caliber

>Divinity Original Sin 2

>So on and so forth

If the game wasn't shit at the start, maybe I'd bother playing them again

>>14222400 (checked)

>Nicalis posts on /r/gamerghazi

Odd because Florian Himsl the guy who programed the original Binding of Isaac is actually pretty cool in my opinion despite being a normalfag.

>>14222162

But thats where the griffin appear you homo, I would argue the dungeon behind the waterfall is the most tedious part in DD since you have to run around collecting plate and your loli pawn keep falling down the edges

>>14267551

But the water god's altar is the most atmospheric place in the game, way too comfy to be tedius