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Original Doom isn't even good. Got shit graphics.

My dubs > your singles

>>14170040

Was this ever even a question? Of course original Doom is better than Brutal Doom.

The sloppy gore in BD is great. The edgey one-liners and execution animations, not so much.

Brutal Doom < Vanilla Doom < Project Brutality

How about Smooth Doom?

>>14170111

Checked, but I don't know why you'd want to turn a Doom thread into a dubs thread.

Well duh.

It's like saying Original Doom > HDoom.

Brutal Doom is shit because SgtMarkIV is a Brazilian nazi who sucks cocks. Check my dubs.

>>14170050

>>14170071

How to spot underages 101

>caring more about graphics than gameplay

Thread's shit though, there's already a Doom thread on

>>14072026

>>14170040

But Brutal Doom has an option to turn off the modern AI. That makes the gameplay basically the same as classic Doom, only with much better guns and highly improved gore.

>>14170132

>How about Smooth Doom?

Chocolate Doom or bust! unless you want to play some specific mod that requires gz/qzdoom obviously

>>14170151

I honestly don't care if someone is a "nazi"

What are you afraid of? If you play the stuff they create that you suddenly transform into a nazi?

I still haven't heard a single good argument why BD is worse than OG, it always boils down to "it's popular".

>SgtMarkIV said mean words that hurt reddit's feelings so Brutal Doom is bad!

lol k more for me i guess

>>14170111

Still no dubs.

Until now.

>>14170185

<I still haven't heard a single good argument

>no wall run

>no silent BFG

>no plasma grabs

There's your (You) and three good arguments.

>>14170173

Even if you play in stripped down mode the guns look like dogshit. I prefer just using something like smooth doom.

>>14170183

I'm afraid of total fucking retards like OP making worthless threads. Check em.

>>14170210

Original Doom's guns look worse, stop lying to yourself. Making the animations look smooth doesn't change anything. The only good looking gun in OG Doom is BFG. On top of that Brutal Doom has much better visual effects and gore.

>>14170175

Crispy Doom is also great if you want Chocolate Doom with a higher resolution.

https://www.chocolate-doom.org/wiki/index.php/Crispy_Doom

>>14170203

Those are not arguments, those are multiplayer and speedrunning glitches listed with comedy chevrons.

>>14170244

Nah, OG super shotty, plasma rifle and chaingun are some of the most iconic gun designs in all of video games and you are a faggot. Definitely more iconic than "the same as the OG shotgun with iridium sights a heatshield and a sling." Nice dubs though.

>>14170216

Better luck next time, boyo.

>>14170282

<ADS

<headshots making high-tier monsters a double-tap shotgun joke

<the horrible sounds on everything, specially monster voices and the disgusting doom comic voice acting

<slower movement speed

<7 rockets to kill a cyberdemon

<fatalities

<projectiles on zombies, cybermastermind making them a joke of a threat because now you can just circlestrafe them

Even if you remove all that, it's still shit because Ketchup and derivates exists and is basically vanilla doom plus gore. It's essentially a downgrade on vanilla doom gameplay just to pander to nu-age "twitch" shooters while making everything easier.

I heard the guy who made HDoom worked with SgtMark. Supposedly he did spritework for him, and the HDoom guy got no credit. Just on top of the fact that SgtMark is generally an asshole. Any truth to that?

>>14170111

it's hard to get dubs these days

>>14170339

>I enjoy chaingunner snipers

OK there's a lot Brutal Doom has to answer for, but fixing a giant portion of the awful maps made by the community and in the official mission packs by making that simple change isn't one of them. Not having to stand in a hallway and trade fire like it's fucking Gears of War is always a good thing.

>>14170342

IIRC Mike/Hdoomguy made the gore splatters/bloodlets and some fatality sprite animations for BD, he never got any credit for it and has been on a grudge with SgtMark over it for a while now.

>>14170357

Chaingunners have activation times before they actually fire their chainguns, meaning you can use proper cover tactics to avoid them and they flinch/stunlock when you shoot at them with your own chaingun which is always 100% accurate if you tapfire, unlike theirs that is incredibly innaccurate past 10 units and only deals 5/10/15 damage per shot which gets reduced even further when you have armor. Alternatively use the rocket launcher and don't stand out in the open, stupid.

>>14170307

>brutal doom super shotgun is the same as original super shotgun

>plasma rifle is literally just a piece of block

>chaingun is too fat despite being slow and weak, and they only show the tip of the barrel

weak bait

>>14170339

>ADS

Literally only one gun has it, and for a good reason.

>headshots making high-tier monsters a double-tap shotgun joke

Doesn't matter because blowing enemies heads feels good.

>the horrible sounds on everything, specially monster voices and the disgusting doom comic voice acting

My version doesn't come with those sounds?

>slower movement speed

Editable through console.

>7 rockets to kill a cyberdemon

>liking bullet sponge cheap boss fight

>fatalities

>actually using the useless melee

>muh joke

>muh difficulty

>this much autism

>>14170372

Your advice is sagely but your strategy is defeated by the clever and devious concept of two chaingunners in different locations.

>Hey cool map that I've never played before time to enter this roo–

>Oh look someone rolled some dice and decided that I should take damage now

This isn't Baldur's Gate.

>>14170185

BD fucks with game balance significantly. It slows the game down somewhat: strafing the projectiles is much harder and less reliable. This forces you to play peek-a-boo a lot more than in OG. It also messes up weapon progression significantly. All conventional weapons receive huge buffs, making them a lot more versatile against stronger demons. Plasma is pretty much overshadowed by AR and MG, RL is more likely to kill you with its huge blast radius and BFG is actually less devastating than it used to be. As the mod doesn't adjust pickups to go along those changes, you're gonna find yourself swimming in ammo very quickly. Add headshots to that mix any semblance of resource management gets thrown out of the window.

>>14170040

Newfags should stick to vanilla Doom. Brutal is for old timers who are bored out of their mind with the original formula, it really is an old man's mod.

>>14170396

Wait, are you accusing SgtMark of plagiarism for stealing the SSG from Doom?! You're right, what an asshole! I knew he was a Brazillian nazi, but a plagiarist too?

His designs aren't his if he took them from Doom you amazing cocksucking moron And I'm already right because his designs are just modded versions of the original designs Enjoy the taste of being wrong

>>14170339

>just to pander to nu-age "twitch" shooters

the hilarious irony is that removing wall run and adding mouse-look and jump make the game orders of magnitude less twitchy.

>>14170434

>mouse-look

*vertical

>>14170396

> a piece of block

>not a vacuum cleaner

>>14170040

In other news the sky is blue.

>>14170040

>Brutal Doom

>Brutal

>Br-utal

>BR

Hue?

>>14170594

You need to play through Doom 1 three times

>>14170040

Shit thread tbqh famicom :3

>>14170185

It makes your ears fucking bleed, it plays like a modern shooter, and it's made by a monkey-eater. What else needs to be said?