/v/ - Video Games

Twilight vampire guy is a great example of what they want. The alphas of the alphas. Rich, powerful, emotionally sensitive, and lusting but capable of holding back.

t. read some book about what people find attractive

BLACKED.COM: The Game

>>14155946

well, that's one of the male archetypes women want, but I think there's more male archetypes women are attracted to.

>>14155955

Maybe not animal crossing, but maybe having a cabin where you raise animals and do some basic harvesting of seasonal crops and have a basic workshop to make the town items, like magical soaps or portions for the shoopkeeper to sell to travelers while you live a faily standart harlekin romance story with some suitors.

I'm sure that could be interesting, a good game and something women would enjoy a lot.

>>14155969

women don't racemix on average.

What type of girls are you trying to appeal, as far as general women They like smart and suave men.

>>14156003

The only type of woman to play a visual novel, love game or whatever instead of diddling on her phone all day, so a fujoshit.

>>14156020

Oh, then some meathead hunk, but throw glasses on him and maybe suggest he cooks, so she can say he's complicated and sophisticated.

It has to be slow paced, casual stuff where they can play and also talk to their gal-pals on another window, or play while cooking. It also has to reward their need for validation with cutesy things or a fanfare. It's why they're so susceptible to Candy Crush and mobile shite.

Stuff like Animal Crossing and Harvest Moon appeals to them as well, though the gender divide there is 50/50, it seems. And lastly, you have things like Minecraft, Terraria and the like, which appeals to little girls mostly because their favorite jewtube hahaman likes it.

>>14155969

>he thinks women want to race mix

Good goy.

Women (or rather, girls) like Link, Snake and whatnot

Problem is that the women you describe aren't the women that play video games so no male characters will be able to attract them enough to play a game, it'd be a different female audience entirely

>>14156003

general women, I've been listening a lot of peterson videos about gender psychological diferences and I've always wondered about making a game girls would love.

Have you ever wonder why almost no girl actually play hardcore games?

I've always wondered that.

And then I saw anita videos and I think she has a point, most of the industry are nerds that lack enough experience with females.

I think the industry should cater to females, for several reasons, but I think the industry is doing stupid wrong shit, like trying to make action females.

And I see the confusion of males when women complain about males with boobs, because women don't solve their problems with violence, males do.

So, I've also started to think deeply about how pretty much all games main gameplay is about combat and violence, even cartoon violence.

And I don't think that's bad, but I see a lost oportunity.

Also, I think the first game that would cater women imagination wild, would make like millions.

Women are like half the population and there's so few hardcore games for them.

>>14156024

Is not about casual or slow, women can be pretty quick and pretty violent to other women.

But I feel gamedevs don't understand the psychology of women.

women dont engage in physical violence because in IRL they're physically weak and pretty much all time they're victims of physical violence (also rape).

So women I think, don't like combat or violence, and I think they rather be violent in terms of social status, which they do IRL to other girls.

most males hate such topics, so I think is an oportunity to make something new in games.

>>14156034

is more like I want to have a serious talk about these ideas.

but I haven't seen any game centered about the female experience and is always through the lens of male gameplay they try to shoehorn males with vaginas, which most women don't enjoy tbh.

>>14155914

Women instinctively like drama because it brings attention (which they need to survive) and destabilization (which they need to feel useful because they can't work).

>>14155993

Most common male archetypes on harlequinn romances (porn for women): Vampire, werewolf, millionaire, pirate, cowboy, doctor, boss, bodyguard, prince, king.

The most common male power fantasy is either going to war and surviving or white-knighting and getting sex for it.

The most common female power fantasy is to tame a dangerous/powerful man into a decent husband.

That's all you need to know when you're doing a game for women.

>>14156061

drama is how women solve their problems.

they're physically weak and most of the time they had to survive along with the other women the warriors kept in the king harem, so they had to solve their issues with social violence, in lowering the status of the other girl, so they can rose to the top of their social pyramid.

much like males go and conquer the world through physical action, women conquer their social pyramid by destroying the other women in their competition for the alpha male attention.

Of course all this has to do with biology.

>>14156086

sure, that seems to be the basic hero's journey archetypes for both genders.

It would be interesting to see such concepts applied to games, but most of them seem to apply mostly to jrpgs.

>>14156126

I think women are also attracted to the foreign barbarian conqueror (warrior, conqueror) and some strong muscular men.

Although I think the muscular guy is more an archetype older women prefer.

most women i know seem to mostly like games where gender really isn't a factor, mostly Nintendo games.

>>14156230

Do they play the wacky Zelda and Portal? Does it say so on their jewbook profiles?

>>14155914

I don't know but for some reason most of my female relatives have admitted to liking fat men.

So throw in a Mark or 2 in there.

>>14156255

that stems from the fact fat males historically have been always guys from wealthy families, remember people didn't have modern farming up to 50 years ago.

So being fat is the same as being wealthy in our subconcius.

most fat bodies are regarded as loyal and boding (beta) by females, while muscular guys were more attractive but were considere less boyfriend material (women have to compete for such males).

In any case, I'm going to sleep, and will love mods keep the thread, seem like a worthy topic of discussion.

>>14156255

>You meet a big guy wearing a Nintendo shirt at the confectionery store.

>"I'm uh, pretty important online, I-I'll let you post offtopic on my board if you date me!

>"C-Can't wait to sticky your thread, babe, if you catch my drift."

>>14156255

>throw in a Mark or 2 in there

1, AT MOST

>>14156322

Gotta sleep but I'll leave this question for discussion.

how all of this would translate into gameplay?

My sister likes Fallout 2 and Ultima VII even though I hate them. She's also a lesbo I suppose. So there's that. Women are both as diverse and as sheeple as men in their video game taste. The only difference I observed is they appreciate interpersonal interaction more than huge lore, huge politics, or complicated stories. And even if the huge scope exists, it should only be a background for the smaller, more intimate scope.

It's not that many women are remotely as "hardcore" about video games as my sister either though. Most women just play free smartphone games.

>>14155914

<shit-test : the game

<choose a boyfriend

<shit-test him and watch the reaction

<there's no winning condition, you just watch the reactions just like The Sims

>>14155914

I always thought girls would like Roleplaying where you develop a character and go on a journey with others, but I imagine a lot of them are turn off from roleplaying because of the audience that typically roleplays.

>>14156047

>muh violence

Nigger, women are fucking brutal to each other and a shitton of gurofags are women. They're the main audience of gory crime shows and viewership spikes dramatically whenever the victims are female.

As for non-mobileshit games women play, mostly stuff like JRPGs and puzzle games. The others are either posers, have normalfag-tier taste and are usually shit at vidya, or are mega-autists who obsess over a single genre or series.

>>14156354

>She's also a lesbo I suppose.

Did a female relative diddle her when she was young?

>>14156366

No retard, women enjoy violence OTHERS do.

like they enjoy their suitor killing another women they hate.

They don't enjoy DOING IT, but this doesn't mean they dont enjoy violence.

Just that women enjoy interpersonal and emotional violence while males enjoy conquering and physical destruction.

>>14156359

>there's no winning condition

The winning condition is that he has the self control to not spend all his money on you and go broke while still giving you things, fucking you, and taking your places on a constant basis as you increase your demands steadily over time.

The winning condition is successful retirement(almost impossible) and children.

You can win this game, it's just really fucking hard.

>>14156367

She's just socially inept and stuff.

>>14156366

>>14156379

I'm p sure edgyfags exist in both genders.

>>14156386

Well no shit.

>>14156386

women have diferent brains, so it doesn't make sense to design female games using what males enjoy.

>>14156322

>downshirts on small breasted girls

truly powerful

>>14156061

Basically the Sims. All women love the sims, they can't get enough of it.

>>14156417

Some males enjoy crossdressing and taking it up the ass, so…

>>14156417

>>14156405

You shouldn't need to intentionally design a game you'd think women would enjoy, design a good game first, and if women happen to enjoy it, there you go. Make a game you yourself would want to play. Just as women themselves would probably better understand how to makes games they would want to play.

>>14156441

I was reading feminazis opinions on traps and they hate traps.

even if you cut your dick you can suddenly change your brain structure and have periods and menopause and the hormonal cycle of periods.

gender is not a social construct, is BS.

>>14156435

and SIMS literally is the most sold game on PC all time.

>>14156465

Well, I'll ask this little small exercise that will blow your mind.

Design a good game without using combat, or physical violence againts others.

Do it.

>>14156480

>puzzles, adventures, point and clicks, sports, racing

so rare

>>14156467

Most women hate traps, lesbos liking traps is a myth. What I'm saying is, some "men" like feminine stuff.

>>14156480

But most women are as accepting of combat and violence as men, though it's rarely what they obsess over unlike men. For God's sake OP, how about going outside your basement once in a while. Browse your female friends' steam and see what they're playing. It's that fucking simple.

>>14156490

>>14156501

I'll have to add: No competition, no violence, if you're autistic.

>>14156504

acording to polls about games and gender women prefer match 3, like 80% of women play that shit.

>>14156490

>adventure

>without combat

>point and clicks

so VNs and walking sims basically which are not really games

doesn't mean they can't be fun though I guess

>sports games

women don't play those, and they are almost always shit anyways aside from the ones that are violence/combat-focused like boxing

>puzzle games

>Racing games

You got me there, though women don't really play the latter

>>14156508

>muh polls

>muh anita videos

>muh X

>muh Y

>no personal experience

Do keep in mind that a very specific kind of person answers gender polls about their taste in video games, and they're probably not the people actively playing vidya.

>>14156539

http://usabilitynews.org/video-games-males-prefer-violence-while-females-prefer-social/

>>14156539

>thinking women play vidya regardless outside of a tiny, tiny minority

>the ones that have any taste enjoy the same shit men do

>the vast majority of ones who do play games play shit like farmville on faceberg and candy crush

Its overwhelmingly obvious. The ESA has the statistics on this shit and they use it to peddle the false "50% of gamers are female" nonsense.

They are in it for mobileshit and social media games, at least the normalfag women are which are the overwhelming majority of "female vidya players".

>>14156389

It would make for a nice steam meme game and youtube eceleb bait.

All males would have hidden stats, and you would need to see through their bluff to know their cards and then you know when to put down or pass.

>>14155914

Most 3D can't get over how disgusting they are so an easy game to make bank on would be a RPG where you level up the body parts thru proper hygiene and corrective plastic surgeries. Money would obviously be a central part of achieving the level up, so grinding thru soyboys and betas to gain experience and cash and getting to the point of being able to withstand a Chad pump and dump or minority encounter that wasn't a liberal paradise as promised. Eventually, one would win when a stable relationship and offspring are produced who don't spend all day playing video games. I believe that was enough bait, my work here is done.

>>14156555

in a way violence can be considered a more tangible form of social interaction.

How about you make a game based on that popular anime "Your Name". I haven't seen it or read the plot really, but I think it has a good setting. So basically, you customize your female/male character and your soulmate. You are both placed randomly in the the city and you choose a house or job like in Sims. You do Sims shit and miscellaneous activities from the Persona games, you know living out your life with your cat in first person. Anyway, the whole point of the game ultimately is to find your "soul mate" and then develop a relationship with him. You could find him on the bus or working at the fast food joint, totally random. He might not like you initially, so you have to work on gaining his trust. Typical anime love story dialogue and acting. It would be like the Crusader kings games with lots of random events, so he could basically die at anytime and you would have to investigate why he won't pick up your calls. He can bring him back to life if you find his body, but it will cost you a monkey paw. You will get a lot of bad luck events for a while and he will forget his memory, so your soul mate could become slave potentially if you persuade him. VR compatible too for the lewd mods. "Soulmate" sounds like a great name for it.

>>14156576

This.

If you haven't bonded with your brothers over a few, or talked shit to a friend while playing a competitive vidya on the couch and bonded over it you're probably a massive faggot

>>14156559

>>14156565

>>14156570

I'll leave now, but then I make the question:

How would you design a hardcore game for women, that women would enjoy to play in a hardcore sense, that is also good.

>>14156589

Make something like Undertale, only less childish and shallow. Chicks will drop their panties over it.

>>14156570

>>14156570

>All males would have hidden stats

Not only that, but your actions effect these hidden stats differently depending on the character

>>14156589

I would design it for gamers (who are more often than not men), give a few very small elements that can pander to the type of women I don't consider shit, like maybe a main character's design and personality that's manly as fuck or something like Hector from Fire Emblem (his popularity was incredibly high and the male:female ratio was 1:1 for him)

I would avoid making it hyper-violent too. That's a bit too much of an extreme for a lot of even the hardcore "female gamers".

Make it story-focused without making it into a non-game or a faggoty game. Basically be unapologetic and women will enjoy it. Only problem is that its literally demographics. 90% of gamers on shit like consoles (like the Switch) are men. I'm imagining you're thinking too much in terms of numbers and worrying about those.

I might make it less twitch-focused as well, possibly JRPG or SRPG combat or mechanics, unless the character designs are meant to pander to them very much, in which case I'd use whatever would be most appropriate for the character's theme and how I want the game to play.

Basically don't dumb shit down for them, give them a teensy bit of fanservice and make it less focused on areas where males have an oftentimes overwhelming advantage (such as twitch-based games) and have a lot of story, preferably a good one

http://dearauthor.com/book-reviews/the-appeal-of-the-beta-male-by-elizabeth-vail/

I've found this while googling, it may be good for the discussion.

>>14156628

(male:female ratio of a popularity vote for him was 1:1 in japan, and it wasn't for that Heroes bullshit if that's what you're thinking)

https://www.nintendo.co.jp/n08/ae7j/k_tohyo/03hector.html

Oh, and strong female characters help too obviously, but don't fucking mary sue them and don't drop them everywhere. Give them vulnerabilities and glaring flaws and shit. These are basically just tenets of a "good game" at this point, but I think when it comes to simple demographics shit like this there really isn't much you can do differently that wouldn't compromise a game

Aside from making a good puzzle game that both would enjoy that isn't casual as shit but I usually don't like pure puzzle games

>>14155914

if you want to know what women would want to see in a game, start reading synopses of paperback romance novels and Korean television dramas

>>14156589

>hardcore

That would imply it'd have some sort of competition or skill merit involved, which, according to you, can't be used in designing a game towards women. And why do you care about having a "hardcore" game for women? Are you a woman? No? Then why do you want more women-focused games?

I swear, if you're one of those faggots who thinks it'll land him a girlfriend

Jokes aside, I'd make a collect-a-thon, but have some of items only be obtainable by becoming friends with people, doing tasks with them, or fixing problems, etc. More items would allow you access to more areas and more people to interact with. And maybe sprinkle it with a dozen or so mini-games or rhythm/puzzle sections. And if you really want girly shit, then add a romance mode where you can set people up on dates or with your character.

Just make Animal Crossing but with faster gameplay and more menial tasks that add up to a clear endgame you can speedrun

>>14156709

I'm more concerned about games being art, so I want to think about games without combat or for women.

>>14155914

>So far I understand women despise the weak soyboys like hell.

Women look for several things in a potential mate. All of them revolve around the male's potential to provide comfort and security to the female and any potential offspring. Women respond very strongly to men who are wealthy and are higher up the social ladder. Physical traits like health and fitness are also important but somewhat secondary.

Soyboys meet none of these requirements. They are typically not as financially successful as other more aggressive males, who are more driven and competitive in the workplace. They are not socially competent, often have low self-esteem and are not respected by their peers. Despite what women say, traits like emotional availability or sensitivity are largely tertiary to their sexual considerations and are instead traits that they look for in friends or betaorbiters they have no intention of mating with.

came across something the other night, the implications seems interesting enough to share though only tangentially related and not asked by op

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_psychology

>Gender has been shown to influence preference, with men choosing music for primarily cognitive reasons and women for emotional reasons.[58]

>Openness to Experience predicted cognitive use of music

>men often report higher assertiveness (a facet of extraversion) and openness to ideas

whereas women rate higher for 'openness to feelings'

>A study of gender differences in 55 nations using the Big Five Inventory found that women tended to be somewhat higher than men in neuroticism, extraversion, agreeableness, and conscientiousness

which in music preference translates to

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychology_of_music_preference

>The more neurotic a person is, the less likely they are to listen to intense and rebellious music (such as alternative, rock and heavy metal); they will likely prefer upbeat and conventional music, such as country, sound tracks, and pop music

>Extraversion is another good predictor of music genre preference and music use. Energetic extroverts have been linked to preferences in happy, upbeat and conventional music, as well as energetic and rhythmic music, such as rap, hip hop, soul, electronic, and dance music.

>Agreeable individuals preferred upbeat and conventional music

>Conscientiousness is negatively correlated with intense and rebellious music, such as rock and heavy metal music

then there's the autism/empathizing-systemizing theory

>A 2015 study investigated musical preferences in the context of this model. The study found that, after correcting for the Big Five personality traits, those with more empathetic cognitive styles preferred "mellower" music with lower arousal and more emotional depth, such as R&B, while those with systemizing cognitive styles preferred more intense music, with heavy percussion and fast tempo.[35]

>>14155914

Make a game that's not very difficult to learn but appeals to chad normalfags. Women will flock to it to be around the chads. Bam, got it.

>>14156322

Women feel threatened by other females (particularly if they perceive the other female as having positive traits that they don't). Look at all "chick flicks" and you'll see that the girl is usually the only female character, outside of maybe a maternal figure like her mother or a mentor.

What you will also find is that almost every chick flick has some contrived plot that is essentially an excuse for her to have to choose between a variety of males you check off one or more of the boxes I described here >>14156736.

A successful female-oriented VN would actually have the player character be the only girl in a school full of attractive rich men.

>>14156846

You don't understand that females are part of a hive mind, if you want to control what they think, create fake females that think a certain way and the real females will start thinking it as well, as if implanted thoughts through an empathy virus.

>all these kissless /r9k/ numales treating women like some kind of mysterious alien being

Sad!

>>14156888

All normies are hive-minded. That's not unique to women.

We're talking about making a game that women would like. This means putting them in as the protagonist in a story, in much the same way that they would self-insert into a romance movie or novel. If you've seen any of these movies, you would know that the only other main female character in them is some sort of rival that unfairly conspires against the protagonist female.

watch this.

>>14156921

>daddy Jordan "clean your room" Peterson

I'll think about it.

>>14156929

>I wanna make games that appeal to girls and women

Puzzle games and shit games with a banal story filled with drama and easy mode.

Man, I actually really want a game about conniving your way to the top of your circle of bitchy princess 'friends' and giving some twink prince some ara ara christmas cake lovin'.

A game like minecraft where you stay inside the house and prepare food while another male player goes out and plays the game

https://heroinejourneys.com/heroines-journey/

>>14155914

>But there's something that I want to discuss, and that is how to design the male characters (basically the suitors), what kind of male would be popular among girls/women.

>Do they like the jpop weak twink type or they love the more muscular bara type?

Look at Devil May Cry games. They love Dante, Vergil and Nero and there's no shortage of women drawing fan art or complete smut of those characters. Apparently to the point they will look past characters like Trish/Gloria, Lady, Lucia, and Kyrie.

Generally you'd want a fit build, designer clothes, and well-groomed hair. The amount of muscle can vary.

>>14164323

I have a feminist friend who has said at least three times now that she would prefer marrying a rich guy and being a stay-at-home mom (but totally a feminist stay-at-home mom).

>>14155914

>women desire

Women don't desire, because desire is a human emotion.

Women are satisfied with whatever they have until something superior and easily attainable appears in front of them, which isn't desire.

Why are you all wasting your time giving advice to this same BR who keeps making these ideafag threads?

>>14164823

>BR

Brunei?

>>14155914

You're forgetting nesting. There's a reason EA was able to nickle and dime Sims fans for so long.

No steep learning curves. I mean, really, who wants to spend a whole weekend of their precious time to learn just ONE game mechanic?

>>14164841

>he spent a whole weekend of his precious time to learn just ONE game mechanic

So, what game?

>Do they like the jpop weak twink type or they love the more muscular bara type?

Neither. In terms of looks the first type is more popular, but you want to make him dominant and borderline abusive rather than a beta like the typical JRPG/anime MC. You don't necessarily have to make them actually beat the woman but they should be violent people and appear willing to beat the shit of her under the right circumstances. If you're a man it's almost impossible for you to overdo this, women's sexual desires are horrifying and our ancestors were right about the importance of keeping them under control.

Just put a lot of shirtless buff men who all lust over the plain uninteresting main character.

>>14164808

I know you're trying to be edgy, but women are human you sperg. I know it hurts your feelings to realize women are the same species as you, but don't deny reality.

Women are not difficult to understand.

They generally just want a guy who

1) is fit and handsome [not skinny, fat, wrinkly, or ugly],

2) is capable of providing for 3 or 4 people [they want don't want their possible children living in poverty and subpar conditions], &

3) can make them happier than any other guy out there. [Love and happiness are two separate concepts. You can love a girl with all your heart, more than any other guy in the world. But if you can't make her happier than her other available choices can, your love for her will likely be one-sided and unrequited.]

>>14155914

I think they'd like the type of guy that's moe. Think like Mark but skinny.

>>14156417

That's true, I don't think females care about character design like males do. The first and foremost is making a game they'd enjoy.

>>14165295

To be fair the last point on his post is a pretty accurate description regarding females.

>>14165312

We really aren't. We get emotional over nothing, sure, but you gonna tell me you don't get emotional over fucking nothing occasionally? If you want a girl, seriously stop pretending to be someone you're not and FUCKING COMMUNICATE YOUR FEELINGS. that is one thing that most betaboys don't do. They just drop subtle hints. Do you guys like it when a girl drops a subtle hint and then expects you to understand what we are saying? No? Then why would we feel any different??

>>14155914

put in something to appease their rape fantasies

>>14165356

clits or gtfo

>>14165356

When you have communists muddying the waters so they can ruin trust in society and sex it doesn't exactly help people to open up to each other.

>>14165356

Tits or gtfo.

Also never listen a woman's advice if you want to date one.

>>14165356

Listen to the THOT, they are not hard to understand.

They think differently, but after your first girlfriend you will understand them all.

>>14165427

What the fuck are you talking about?

Are you implying you would need a game that syncs up with a woman's menstruation cycle?

That would sure make the headlines on many feminist websites, sure…

Actually that's free advertising, ship it.

>>14165436

It doesn't apply, moron.

The thread is about females and she isn't doing it for attentions.

Ban this newfag mark.

>>14165356

>we

well you know the drill

>>14165435

>game asks the player to name their flow dates before starting and makes the game more soothing in various ways during their time of the month

>>14165437

But that's wrong and she didn't even need to name her sex to give that advice.

>>14165437

You're trying way too hard to fit in.

>>14165374

>>14165356

this pretty much

never listen to a womans relationship advice

>>14165509

What if all the female characters' periods are synced with her own so that she never feels left out?

>>14155914

Why the everloving FUCK would you want more girls in this hobby? To make it even more shit?

>>14165522

What would the purpose of that be? So they could go to the restroom together?

>>14165509

>Open world survival RPG

>Crafting, Fishing, the whole shebang

>Entire game is dyed in cutesy fairy-tale stylings

>Tons of customization so every player can have their unique avatar

>Overall goal: become strong enough to challenge Lord Macguffin's Lair

>However there's a twist

>The main character is also a werewolf

>one week during each month, during the full moon, they become terrifying monsters

>You could easily beat the Lair this way but you get a different ending.

Shit I kind of want to play this now.

>>14165590

Doesn't that already happen regardless or not of whether it's their time of the month? But anyway, the point of it would be to have the other girls be as angry as her during that time. Or, angrier.

Do you make games for dogs or cats to play?

Why would you make games for other animals such as women?

>>14165356

Every girl I try to hook up with always has a boyfriend

I'm not sure this is because I'm fat and ugly or because I'm actually being myself

>>14165661

This man is your friend.

>>14165656

That face. They ALL make that same fucking face.

>>14165656

Biggest mistake Rune Factory 4 ever made. It's the one reason that makes it ultimately not as good as Rune Factory 3. That and having 4 tile plots instead of 9 tile plots. They cut their waifu cast in half and rule 63'd them, it was awful.

>>14165942

I believe it was also ultimately the downfall of the harvest moon / sos series. If your main audience or at least a good percentage is women, then you're ultimately going to casualize it to the degree that anybody can progress as long as they keep smashing their head against it.

>>14165509

>but one week every month you play in Berserk mode where you steamroll through everything.

The Blood Moon is rising…

>>14166176

 WHAT A TERRIBLE NIGHT TO HAVE A CURSE. 

>>14165974

But isn't showing teeth a sign of anger or violence for most species?

>>14166183

That's with your mouth closed.

If you ever sawa dog submit another one, the one on the ground opens his mouth and exposes his belly as a sign of surrender

>>14166193

You mean mouth slightly open

Women like confidence in men. Confidence is a pretty masculine trait and even applies to twink-looking characters, like Link. He's a pretty boy but has a masculine personality which is why both genders find him to be a sympathetic character in at least one way.

Also, assholes are often mistaken as confident, which is why the old stereotype of women dating assholes is quite real. You could do something with that as well.

Maybe a beta who works to or gets groomed to improve himself, too. It's really just flavors of confidence in the end, everything else is secondary.

>>14156921

For OP's purposes, I'd say this is more succinct and more directly applicable. You can easily extrapolate the five types of men he mentions into varied and interesting characters while still maintaining the basic archetypal appeal of them.

>>14166276

>Shiggy 289481 6217912.jpg

Where are the other 289481 6217911?

Women prioritize fee-fees over literally everything else. Their brains are wired for emotion, not logic. So the best way to get their attention is a story that's supermarket love novel trash, and gameplay that has absolutely no challenge, to the point of handholding so hard that a literal toddler could complete the game. But don't forget to tell them what a good job they're doing and how much skill this takes and how they're a stronk womyn who don't need no man at every step. You can't create gameplay that works on emotion rather than logic either, because each individual woman's emotional priorities are hugely different so what works for one would fail for millions.

Women want sappy movies and books with simple words, not games. Gone Home is an example of a game engineered for women.

>>14166530

Assholes typically are assholes because they're trying to compensate for underlying insecurity, and lash out at people angrily when challenged, or avoid confrontation and become more bothered when it happens since they were putting in extra effort to avoid it. Truly confident men just do what they want and disregard others' opinions about it. They openly talk about things they like and dislike, and are aware that confrontation is a possibility, but also feel confident they could win a fight if one broke out, so they don't care.

>>14156929

Im not going to subscribe to your channel either Jim

>>14166792

The difference is the confident guy isn't a dick about it.

Scenario: revealing your powerlevel

Asshole: carefully hides it, will defend his tastes to the death when challenged by another person with a powerlevel to hide, either shrinks back or goes into attack mode when some normalfag makes fun of him for liking that genre of thing.

Confident: probably started the conversation instead of hiding it in the first place, doesn't attack other people for liking something different, but will provide reasons why he likes his thing to help them understand why he does. Everyone leaves the encounter happy. If someone on the other side of the conversation REALLY wanted to start shit and bully him anyway, that person is the asshole and at this point everyone can see it.

>>14166844

That sounds like something from a fairytale to be honest. Everyone leaves the encounter happy, really?

Now this is just a thread ive been waiting for. Im so glad you made it! Okay, Im gonna try and answer seriously without reading the rest because I can kinda guess what shit youre all saying.

I think first of all you need SEVERAL men. This is really important, why? Because they decide the hierarchy even if they dont know theyre doing it, they really do. I once read about an article and it explained that most women dont put that much value in what a guy archieves but they put a lot more value in it if OTHER GUYS praise him, and that me understand a LOT more about how we work as humans. So you need a hierarchy of men first of all. Then when it comes to looks, honestly its completely personal. First impressions are really important, guess where a girl instinctively looks on first impression? Tummy area. Fit is always good (to a degree ofc), same as what most guys would look at in a girl: is she fit, does she take care of herself (right?). He has to show or maybe even stand out in taking good care of himself. Not in a self-indulging way, in a sort of high standard to himself.

Why high standard? Because hes looking for a high standard woman himself. He wants the best and youve got to convince him youre it: its faith, we have x in common, etc

Think of the best person you can be and you already have the personality a woman likes. Let me explain: sometimes you hear "be yourself" as the most common advice from women to guys right? And maybe you think "well, ive tried that". Well, it's still great advice. You have to just be very confident of who you are, what your role in the world is no matter how big or small, no shame for your quirks and no one will laugh at them. Obviously you cannot be overconfident of your abilities, this is immediatly seen through, you just have to be confident in your own opinions your own job, your hobbies, yourself, you should know what you can and cant do. You set a high standard to yourself in terms of morals.

Well thats what I could think of right now anyway. Im gonna go back to lurking, maybe soneone in this thread knows wth hes talking about.

>>14165356

I have been in exactly one relationship. I got there by making a conscious decision to make fun of/taunt her at every opportunity. Really, I faked it. I acted like I was completely disinterested in her well being and she couldn't get enough of it.

Years later she broke up with me "for my own good" and because she thought our relationship was all about sex. Nevermind the fact that she went out of her way to tell fucking everyone she knew how high her sex drive was.

So nah. Women are pretty much bullshit. I was a halfway decent trap and I wasted my time on this.

>>14155914

Girls like Tetris, Candy Crush and dress up dollies.

>>14167117

You forgot /cuteboys/

>>14166981

Serves you right. Like everything else if the bants is fake and subpar you're better off cutting ties and finding greener pastures.

>>14167076

>more than 20 words

Yeah no, don't give women so much credit.

>>14165656

These "people" don't know how to smile…or trim their disgusting beards?

>>14167374

Do these "people" not know how to smile…or to trim their disgusting beards?

Fify

>>14167159

>this whole fucking reply

>>>/a/

>>>/b/

>>>/suicide/

>gay/effiminate protag

>simplistic story and gameplay that even a 6 yo with down's syndrome could comprehend and win at

>colorful kid-friendly aesthetics

>stealth furshit but not in-your-face

>millions of dollars in PR

Basically make Zelda or Mario clone.

>>14155969

>>14166958

You come across as the type of cunt that is stupid as shit. Fyi, no one listens to your dumb ramblings. I'd shove my meat up your throat just to make you shut the fuck up.

>>14167540

>This state this absolute state

>>>/wow/

>>>/chad/

>>>/meme/

>>14168406

>Being a dude sucks; wish women would put themselves in OUR shoes every now and then.

I recall one woman-to-man tranny that tried and immediately came to the conclusion that being a woman is better.

>>14168526

yeah, I saw this thing where a woman, who was already sort of man-nish, got herself all dolled up to look like a dude, and at first glance you couldn't tell. She even took speech classes to talk and have man-like mannerisms. After "living undercover as a man" for 18 months and realizes how fucking hard it is.

Vid-related is it, no webm because 20 minutes.

>>14155955

tfw no meowth bf

>>14168571

> just to her I was a misogynist but I couldn't explain to her

> talks about how irresistible sexual urges such as checking out women is

> after testosterone got interested in science, an empirical subject

> talks about how dealing with crying and frustration, emotions in general is so different

> mentions having to feel the need to be puffed up around other dudes, bodychecks, etc

> learns there's a barrier between being close friends with men and women and implying undrestanding that men and women can't really "just be friends"

if only other women could understand without having to take testosterone and become man-dykes. They will never know.

Here's a video of what would be the female equivalent of the hero archetipe.

In short, think Beauty and the Beast, female undergoes a change into maturity along "taming" teh savage but full of potential man.

Of course you can switch "man" with something else just to try and avoid from the usual tropes. That's why women go for "horse rasing" games instead of "horse racing". Same for social games, in which your character alter's her environment by socializing with it.

Now think back to every time a female complained about violence in action games (or any other game archetipe that you like), and also remember every game that the usual SJW clickes like to prompt up. Are things starting to make sense now?

>>14156921

>>14166681

Welp just now noticed that other people posted symilar videos.

Welp, there you have it, OP.

>>14164362

>I was planning to agdg a multiplayer ARPG with this particularly in mind, where one player could be perfectly capable of just doing stuff like brewing potions, cooking, forging, tending the injured etc. while another player went off to adventure and kill monsters

Interesting idea Anon. If it's co-op in the same area, you could have "adventurer" type characters fighting monsters and trying to protect said "potion brewing/ingredient gathering alchemist" type character on the same battlefield.

The "adventurer" character gameplay is your standard ARPG combat while the potion maker as mentioned by >>14156508 could have a match 3 puzzle interface like when trying to make a potion. Then when brewed they throw it at the "adventurer" and hope they don't hit a monster instead. Cue screaming and laughter as your female player time spent finding rare and powerful herbs to brew a strong potion for your party has just accidentally recovered the monsters full HP and increased it attack strength.

Another ARPG game you might want to look into is Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles (original GCN version). In multiplayer one player basically had to volunteer to hold onto a chalice that would protect the party from the deadly misama gas surrounding them that would also keep the entire party together on screen instead of them wandering off alone, some people refer to that role as "bucket bitch". There also the cool idea of different players had access to certain info (on their connected GBA's) that they would have to communicate to other players (one has a full map of dungeon, one has locations of treasure chest in dungeon). Something like this could help a woman played work together with you (with the distribution of information to you) but not in a role that means she has to fight.

>>14168685

Uh, you'd know if you had a girlfriend and maybe if you weren't a virgin, women aren't innocent Disney princesses, they're into the same disgusting shit that men are, sometimes even worse.

All I like is ss and big asses, but reading about the fetishes that women have on their female-only chans is enough to make me feel like an innocent church-going choir shota.

>>14168721

sounds like you know a lot about women, chad. wish i could be like you.

>>14168721

the way i see it fetishes are an outlet for sexual frustration, and many women can't masturbate as easily as men can, thus the amount of fetishes

Seriously, some of the most perverted girls happen to be virgins too, they are so entranced with sex and into a hormonal storm they can't help but to taint their minds with it and have those fetishes soon be erased and overwritten by the first dude they allow to enter their legs

>>14167265

Can I play Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy with your mom anon?

>>14168947

>spics and niggers

<not kikes

Noone is as perverted as a kike.

>>14168721

Can confirm. 3DPD's hold no punches when talking about lewd things if they trust you. It's quite flustering.

If it's an adult male character, just give him a fit body type [could be slim fit like FF15's Noctis, or swole fit like Gladiolus] and start from there, OP. If you ever seen a women's magazine, the muscled male models should make it pretty obvious that fit guys are the preferred body type over fat/skinny guys. Even in shows for little girls, they're taught early on that the "hot" guys should be rocking a six pack.

>vid related [look at how mesmerized Star is at Marco's bod]

Just remember to give them handsome faces while you're at it. I've seen a lot of fangirls for prettyboys like Cloud Strife or Dante, but hardly any for the bald angry Kratos. The number of girls who like rugged faces like Red Dead's John Marston fall somewhere in between, I guess.

Basically, a "muscular bod" may be decent, but a "muscular bod + handsome face" is the killer combo most women want, apparently.

Their personalities can be whatever though. They could be a calm and collected introvert, or an overly confident extrovert. It doesn't really matter. Think of it like this: Guys are attracted to different personality types [some guys prefer Asuka and others prefer Rei, even though their personalities are polar opposites in Neon Genesis Evangelion], and girls are no different in this regard. There's no "one size fits all", and whatever floats their boat simply depends on the individual in question. Therefore, I think that if a game offers a variety of personality types to choose from [like how FF15 or Dream Daddy did, I guess], the game would satisfy many more women because then they would simply gravitate the personality type they like the most.

>>14168406

You're replying to the wrong anon, dude. I've said nothing about communicating feelings. It was that another anon who wrote that.

From my experience, Women tend to either play games like the sims, or play some iteration of a COD-esque game. There's no real rule of thumb, but from my experience if a woman says she's played a game before, most of the time it will be the sims.

>>14168583

That's not a meowth, you mongoloid.

>>14168340

Hot

>caring what women want

>>14169261

Women are easier to psychologically manipulate, so they're a more profitable demographic.

>>14169269

>Women care more about feelings than logic reasoning

Just a minor adjustment to your statement. It's still true btw

>>14169005

>episode where Marco spends 16 years in alternate dimensions

>never gets brought up again

>>14169269

Says the idiot that thinks that they won't be as easily manipulated by the competition. You talk like a retarded marketeer that only parrots what he read in the "manual". A volatile and easily manipulated audience is the number one factor responsible for a fast downfall of any company whenever a single mistake (in the eyes of said audience) is made.

>>14169278

Women are animals. For Men, objects of temporary pleasures, to be used when young and discarded when they age.

Fixed.

>>14155914

Find a way to combine Animal Crossing, Stardew Valley and Fallout. You'll have a gold mine.

>>14156092

But they can play pecking order all they want, the king wants the hottest youngest girl, not the most conniving bitch of them all.

>>14155914

Cames with lots of clothes to choose from.

They are always for grills.

>>14169005

The exception to this rule is if you're going to make them gay, or appeal to a specific niche of stout but obviously hard working men.

>>14155914

The Sims already exists, anon.

>>14156086

>The most common male power fantasy is either going to war and surviving or white-knighting and getting sex for it.

Where do you leave the one-man army or angry barbarian tropes at?

Theres a reason everybody likes the doomguy so much.

>>14155914

Women don't know what the fuck they want, faggot. Here's your (You).

>>14180302

Those both fall under

>going to war and surviving

>>14155914

From my experience, most of the girls prefer games with good characters and easy gameplay. Take Oblivion's Dark Brotherhood questline, for example.

>>14180900

>Uhh, no?

Anon you're being too literal with this. "Going to war" encompass all things rooty tooty shooty. Just because it's not literally some historical war doesn't mean it's not still a guy running around with a gun shooting enemies. We call it going to war because that's what young men used to actually do to sate their primal manly urges.

>>14180795

>Those both fall under

>going to war and surviving

Not at all, for that you would have something more humbling.

Its like comparing an imperial guardsman to a space marine, doomguy is a killing machine that destroys legions of demons to metal music, thats not going to war and surviving.

>>14181009

How would one go about finding their work?

>>14180900

>>14181009

I wonder how would they react at being raped, do you think they would enjoy it?

>>14181009

TRAPS ARE GAY.

>>14181046

Just look up the stuff on the images? I mean, the names are right there.

>ぜんぶまとめてボコボコりんッ!

>熟女子高生A

>>14181051

No but it's a common fantasy.

>>14181074

Getting the first reply in before /pol/ spergs out

>>14181078

I know its a drawing but they still seem to enjoy it given the stories they make so i'm just wondering if they would be willing to follow through with their fantasies and have someone turn them into a reality.

come on dude i know you would rape them too if no consequences were given

>>14181131

Like, just act out the fantasy with your girlfriend.

>>14155914

I diagnose you with a serious case of being a fucking faggot.

>>14181100

>Women are for loving tenderly.

Gay.

>>14155914

"For women" isn't a clear demographic. What kind of woman?

>>14181404

The artist or the manga it's fanart of?

>>14156722

If games were art they wouldn't be called "Games". Games can contain elements of art and those elements can be arranged in an aesthetic way, but rules and fail states, inherent to games, are not art.

>>14155914

Women, like men, are individuals.

Some like twinks.

Some like baras.

>>14156891

Depends on which women you deal with. The most intelligent women know what they want and pursue it, but outside of academia/professional environments, this is often the case.

>>14182236

You don't need to cater to someone in order to make waifu bait. Technically, a well written character can be waifu, or in this case husbandobait for it's personality alone, which Layton pretty much fits in, and may be the reason why it is popular with females.

>>14182251

>Women, like men, are individuals.

This is how stupid you actually are. Women are collectivist beings. They follow the crowd.

>>14183201

Does jojos bizarre adventure appeal to women?

>>14183238

Not typically no.

>>14181078

>Araki prefers going to Seinen since it makes him do monthly releases compared to weekly ones.

Seinen also has the advantage of being targeted to an older audience, so you can get away with partial nudity and more blood and gore.

>>14183238

Yes, it does. I've met plenty of women who are obsessed with the manga/animes.

>>14183201

>making goru and depraved shit is okay

>until a woman makes it

>truly a disgusting gender

t. Achmed

>>14184934

pretty sure Jump censors gore.

>>14180900

>>14181009

>guro

>NTR

This is worse than being a fujoshi.

>>14185102

>Fujoshis tend to draw yaoi for other female fujoshis

>yaoi and gay shit, catered to women and probably fags is not ok.

>yuri and lesbians, catered to men, lesbians, and bisexuals is ok.

Ok. I'm sensing the same vibe as feminists saying sexy video games for men is not ok.