9e4d1b No.14154583
What are the chances of these big ugly sons of bitches in Warhammer Vermintide 2? I'm actually hyped for the 2nd one now that they are including Chaos enemies. I think having Chaos as either a playable faction or enemies is a MUST in a Warhammer or 40k game. It just isn't the same without them. Who wants to fight only Orks and Rats all the time?
17ecdb No.14154595
will vermintide 2 have blood ravens in it
9e4d1b No.14154613
>>14154595
The space marine chapter? I doubt it. It's Warhammer Fantasy not 40k
305afc No.14154695
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9e4d1b No.14154977
>>14154695
Not sure what you mean.
0ae29b No.14155050
What are the chances the game is good, unlike the first?
3806e9 No.14155467
>>14154977(checked)
Should this foul abomination indeed exist then it shall be purged.
16e2ee No.14155477
>>14155467
We're all innocent here.
9e4d1b No.14155482
>>14155467
side question
Is Inquisitor: Martyr any good or do you know?
3806e9 No.14155544
>>14155477 (checked)
Innocence proves nothing.
9e4d1b No.14155565
>>14155544
How the fuck are flying babies with robot skulls and tubes running all throughout their bodies not Heresy? Those things have always creeped me out.
16e2ee No.14155588
>>14155544
Your ignorance shows.
fef391 No.14155691
>>14155544
<Innocence proves nothing.
>Wasting digits on 1984 logic.
16e2ee No.14155712
>>14155691
That's the actual logic the Imperium uses.
f2c9a5 No.14155714
>>14155588
>that pic
>those digits
Give me my lungs back anon
16e2ee No.14155744
a08432 No.14155753
it's going to be just of a lead on like the first one was
f8181c No.14155762
Expect them to only add chaos undivided and generic cultists.
9e4d1b No.14155805
>>14155762
Nope, already saw a demo vid.
Appears to be all Nurgle though.
a08432 No.14155815
>>14155762
generic cultists will be the "mob" reskin
chaos warrior the "storm vermin"
chaos spawn the "rat orge"
etc etc
ad1864 No.14155832
>>14154583
Virtually zero. Greater demons are essentially undefeatable natural disasters that kill everyone within miles by simply appearing.
9e4d1b No.14155838
>>14155815
Dammit.
I just want a vidya version of this.
9e4d1b No.14155844
>>14155832
Maybe, but they were in Warhammer Online so never say never.
-dp sage
a08432 No.14155859
>>14155844
the devs couldn't into boss fights so don't hold your breath
f8181c No.14155862
>>14155805
>Appears to be all Nurgle though.
Then I'm surprised, I would have figured they would go with Khorne before Nurgle.
9e4d1b No.14155908
>>14155862
Why?
The rats have allied themselves with the only chaos god that makes sense for a bunch of filthy rats.
9e4d1b No.14155931
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apologies for double post
a08432 No.14155947
>>14155908
if it is I really hope it isn't age of sigma shit because fuck having a wow alliance/horde cuntery
77163c No.14155958
>first person anything
Why would anyone care?
1fe1a6 No.14155998
>>14155908
I figured that only clan pestilence would ally with Nurgle it was probably a dumb thought though
9e4d1b No.14156048
>>14155998
No, I'm pretty sure you're right. They seem to be one in the same.
http://whfb.lexicanum.com/wiki/Skaven_Pestilens
Pretty sure these are the guys you're fighting.
a08432 No.14156060
>>14156048
thing is though we don't see anything from pestilence
bf4f89 No.14156103
>>14154583
I fucking knew the 56% forced meximeme art was stolen.
9e4d1b No.14156131
3806e9 No.14157786
>>14155815
From what the videos show there is no reskin apparent especially between rodents and chaos cunts.
The Stormvermin sword and shield variant will also have its own moveset similar but not identical to standard halberded Storms.
The same is true for the chaos spawn, while it is still a large melee focused mini boss it differs to the Ratogre. E.g. it can grab a character and feed on him in order to regain lost health. The Stormfiend is another ratogre but with twin fucking warpfire throwers I dunno if you wanna call that a reskin too but I certainly won't.
3806e9 No.14157801
>>14155998
Clan Fester is according to the lore a vassal clan to Pestilence itself. They don't behave or fight like pestilence but they are no strangers to serving disgusting and toxic deities.
e549f4 No.14158265
So it does have a single player campaign?
I now prefer WHFB aesthetics over LOTR itself, would be nice to have a RPG based on it, to complement the TW games.
4c45ea No.14158433
>>14158265
If its anything like the first you should be able to play the whole thing solo with the AI bots even up the highest difficulty as long as you're good at blocking/dodging.
63bfd4 No.14158506
>>14155050
>First game
>bad
094b0c No.14158536
>>14155998
>>14156048
>>14157801
>>14155947
>>14155908
Skaven are beastmen (mutants from regular animal through chaos power, in their case regular rats through warpstone), all beastmen worship chaos, but typically in the form of "chaos undivided" not specific aspects of it.
Now the skaven don't worship the classic chaos gods, they have their own version of the God Emperor, the Horned Rat, the (retarded) events of the End Times in WFB revolves around the skaven trying to have the Horned Rat become a full fledged chaos god (which they largely succeed).
Pestilens officially reveres the disease carrying aspect of the horned rat (but the others skavens considers them heretics).
7ac7a4 No.14158540
The first game was a less-good Left 4 Dead. That bodes ill for the second game.
>>14158506
>RPG Loot Drop mechanics with very minimal progression
>Levels lack real distinction
>Hard to tell your campaign progression
>Not as fun to blast away hordes as L4D
>No in-mission progression of weaponry, you are the exact same at the start and end
>Game is either a hack'n'slash in first person or a horde killing game at melee range
>Cannot play duplicate characters
>Sometimes the armoured rats (Stormvermin?) just stack all up on top of each other and one shot you without warning
>The hunter copy gets to freely teleport when you catch it
>The smoker equivalent gets to no-clip through allied hordes when it grabs you
>The spitter equivalent never fucking hits
>The ratling gunner has to be sniped every time making some people useless against it
>The Tank replacement isn't as intimidating
The game was merely fine, but coming off the back of playing Left 4 Dead and Payday it's hard to say it did anything exceptional.
b610f0 No.14158548
>>14158536
Wasn't Pestilens worshiping Nurgle all along? The plagues they engineer that end up killing millions of ratmen (((accidentally))) each time were a way for them to keep the clans from organizing and actually making a push against mankind before Chaos, I think I read that somewhere. Of course End Times screwed that up along with everything else.
3806e9 No.14158591
>>14158540
Most of your points are utter shit, mate.
3806e9 No.14158630
>>14158607
I want to fight the Undead.
df1443 No.14158672
>>14158607
>tfw I will never be a paladin slaying hordes of orks from brettonian lands.
e549f4 No.14158676
>>14158672
You will be slaying something worse, the fucking beastmen.
a08432 No.14158716
>>14157786
tbh fantasy chaos army is pretty shitty for this kinda game as they're all the same thing with just different degrees of warp fuckery.I wouldn't mind having a arena mode for them where you highly customize your dude for it but it just don't fits tbh.
>>14158676
beastmen would have been better tbh
37c110 No.14158755
Is this game still going to have the mandatory 4 player l4d shit in it? I hated not just being able to just play with 1 friend without being forced to have 2 bots tag along.
a08432 No.14158762
>>14158755
it'd be the same, only now you get to climb different class trees if you want
3806e9 No.14158767
>>14158755
There is a mod for shit like that.
Download and install takes 10 minutes.
37c110 No.14158775
>>14158767
But the game is designed around needing 4 players so just disabling the bots from spawning doesn't fix the game.
a08432 No.14158798
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>>14158775
if you're actually good at the game you don't need bots for it
37c110 No.14158829
>>14158798
Then why does the embedded video have bots?
43bf4b No.14158862
The first game honestly felt like an incomplete game and with the amount of DLC's for it I feel like this should be a DLC rather than its own game.
I dont feel its worth buying it again to get a few more enemies since I bet they have very few maps again and will just sell more as DLC's.
Fuck people who enable DLC kikery.
a08432 No.14158956
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>>14158829
because I thought otherwise
9e4d1b No.14158961
>>14158607
Orks are fucking gay and I hate people like you.
43bf4b No.14159048
>>14158956
Its pretty sad that videos like these caused the devs to nerf the bow and staff with auto targeting.
Instead of buffing weapons that nobody uses because they're garbage they just downgrade the ones that are usefull.
No fun allowed tier balancing.
9e4d1b No.14159067
I'm serious, man. Fuck people who are content with one type of enemy in a Warhammer game. The main battle is Man vs Chaos and it should be that way for just about all video games if you're only gonna have one enemy, and Orks, man, orks are just the worst. I can't stand the greenskins.
Off topic: What is the 40k equivalent of Vermintide?
f32ba6 No.14159073
>>14155565
Dont worry they arent actual, human bebies but cloned familiars, worry about the fact that they dont use human babies because it would be much more expensive.
3af713 No.14159080
>>14159067
>What is the 40k equivalent of Vermintide?
Space Hulk Deathwing, unless else something fits better.
ed2a96 No.14159136
>>14159048
Buffing the other bows wouldn't have done jack shit. People are too noob to actually aim properly with the ranged weapons in the game (citing it's too hard and/or "glitchy" to obtain headshots) so they have to rely on those auto-aim weapons to stay ahead of the pack. Whenever they get nerfed you get the same levels of sodium as the Democrats after seeing Trump getting elected. Rather than giving proper arguments as to why they should've been left alone, they just scream obscenities or give bullshit reasons like "it makes me feel like a bad-ass".
Good riddance with Trueflight mechanics, and I hope they don't come back in Vermintide 2.
a08432 No.14159195
>>14159048
almost as if the devs are hacks or something
7ac7a4 No.14160877
>>14158591
It's a good thing you refuted them otherwise they would go untested.
c99a25 No.14160944
>>14155050
First game wasn't bad, but they spent a lot of time in creating replayability with upgradable items but didn't make the base game worth repeated playthroughs.
ea56eb No.14161031
>vermintide1
>hey this looks pretty good i think ill get it
>better wait for a price drop though
>free weekend comes along so i try it
>everyones running ahead and niggering all the health items
>refuse to stick together
>someone goes down they are flat out ignored
>gameplay itself is pretty repetitive and the melee is very unsatisfying.
BULLET DODGED
9e4999 No.14161040
>>14154583
>What are the chances of these big ugly sons of bitches in Warhammer Vermintide 2?
0
9e4999 No.14161049
>>14161031
>>14161031
>melee is very unsatisfying
wrong
fbb0ae No.14161083
>Play Vermintide 1
>Its one of my favourite games of all time suddenly
>It's great, the community is not bad, the game has a challenge but it's not unfair except some RNG where you get fucked
>Smart enemy spawn to punish rushers
>Oh no two auto aim weapons are in the game, fuck. Oh well whatever
>Oh no they are adding DLC of maps with new weapons and only the weapons drop from there
>Thank god, if only one player gets the DLC everyone else can join his game without owning the DLC and get the weapons. Nice thinking in a group of friends only one has to buy it!
>Buy one DLC each on the group, all dandy, it's amazing
>More patches are in, the game becomes more popular and better
>Casuals whine about getting kicked out of the hardest difficulty lobbies
>They whine really dam hard and 1.9 patch comes
>Buff weapons to the point that the hardest difficulty is a fucking joke
>Infinite ammo no reloading mini guns that can work as a shotgun, bows that can 5 shot the biggest enemy in the game alone, OP shit everywhere
>cry like a bitch due to devs destroying my favourite game, all of my friends leave
>Uninstall and never come back
9e4d1b No.14161158
>>14161031
You drop a game because you happened to end up in a bad party the first time?
I dont actually believe you.
ea56eb No.14161257
>>14161158
i played several and the experience was the same every time. So i assumed it was an entire community of faggots.
fc19a7 No.14161432
>>14158798
I always use the Conflagration Staff m'self. Regardless, a group in Vermintide with a good Bright Wizard is a group better off. A good Bright Wizard can more than make up for the shortcomings of the others, though not ALL of them if they choose to be so incompetent.
>>14158961
>see pic
>be a nigger somewhere else
>>14161257
Ugh, hold on, copypasta time…
"Second, if you hear that there's an RPG element to this game and feel that new players likely get mistreated, you're only half right. The levels you gain in this game are indicative of your overall experience in the game. Thusly, your level gives you no inherent advantages except for how others see/treat you. Lower level players are generally seen as junior, with most under the level 40 being seen as "noobs". Higher level players are seen as senior, with some people ridiculously high level to the point of being looked upon as being elite. Yes, this DOES harbor some elitism in the player base, but in general much of this can be circumvented by new players IF the new players either listen to the advice of the senior players OR show a decent understanding of the deeper nuances of the game. If you're a new player that's dropping fast and swinging wildly, don't expect veteran players to respect you or even give you the time of day. One easy way to know if you're worth your weight in salt: Are you performing better than the veteran's bots? If so, you're generally fine. If not, then you might want to start learning the game more. Also, remember that not all enemies should be confronted. Rushing into a fight can spell disaster, even more so when the veteran players know not to prompt an attack but a newer player forces it anyways, forcing the veteran players to waste time and resources having to clean up the mistakes of newer players."
What this means is simple: Since you were new, other new players were being retarded because of the difficulty you chose and/or veteran players simply did not see any reason to trust in your ability to be asset to them.
addca0 No.14161924
>>14154595
>Fantasy is so irrelevant at this point the just the mere mention of Warhammer immediately is associated with 40k.
I would be angry if it wasn't fucking true.
fc19a7 No.14161957
>>14161924
Agreed. Fantasy had SO MUCH going for it.
3806e9 No.14163792
>>14161957
>had
For all the shit with GW and for all the laziness and bad programming at least Warhammer fantasy lives on somewhat in Total WaWa.
c6ae05 No.14163909
>>14161031
>free weekend
>Is surprised by the amount of shit players
Holy fuck how can there be people this retarded
0507ad No.14163974
How can anyone be hyped for Vermintide 2 after the colossal clusterfuck that was the first iteration?
Shallow, floaty melee combat and ranged weaponry that tear through rats like paper instead of meatbags.
Judging by the early footage of the sequel, the melee combat is just as bad if not worse.
0507ad No.14163977
>>14163792
>implying Total Warhammer was good
3806e9 No.14164245
>>14163977
Use the right mods and it becomes good enough, although CA's laziness and retardation are always visible.
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fc19a7 No.14165865
>>14165493
Fantasy Orks (and the Greenskins in general) are pretty fucking awesome. Grimgore Ironhide is a brute of an Ork and could put most WH40K Orkz to shame.
f01b9e No.14165902
>>14165865
I think he's pointing out that they're orcs in fantasy and orks in 40k.
fc19a7 No.14168815
>>14165902
Oh, I make that mistake all the time too.
57adc0 No.14168888
>>14163977
>Implying it's not
1655b9 No.14168906
>>14164245
No matter how much you polish a turd, it'll never turn to chocolate. Adding mods to fundamentally broken game doesn't do jack shit to make it good. You would have to revamp the entire strategy layer and the combat phases which no mods are going to do that.
1655b9 No.14168907
>>14168888
Oh yeah, because games with retarded loops can ever be good.
3093ec No.14168999
I really liked Vermintide, some of the weapons hurt the experience for me though.
Wish they'd add a Brettonian.
fc19a7 No.14170055
>>14168999
I honestly cannot see them ever doing that.
I was always hoping for a Warrior Priest, personally.
07fe0a No.14170190
>vermintide
I'd much rather see a Warhammer Fantasy RPG, but given how development goes today and the Age of Sigmar stuff, I'm hesitant to see it come to fruition.
>>14158607
>Orks
The funniest guys, but outclassed by so many others.
>>14168999
>Wish they'd add a Brettonian
How would they put a horse in the game?
52e03d No.14170326
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>>14170055
your dub dubs are blessed by Sigmar
07fe0a No.14170336
>>14170326
This trips are blessed by Tzeentch.
e549f4 No.14172983
>>14168907
Nigger what?
What is this retarded loop?
afe0f2 No.14172995
>>14154583
I hate what they did with the Elf since it reminds me of the retardation GW did with them in the End Times.
All that shittalk she would say about the High Elves and Dark Elves will be redundant unless they somehow write it to be given more background and reason than what we got but probably not.
cb5897 No.14173006
>>14170055
>>14170326
>still no baldman
I'm waiting for Markus class reveal and eventual bald Markus with hammer
fc19a7 No.14174354
>>14173006
Wouldn't Saltz be the most likely to dawn Warrior Priest armor though? Not that I necessarily want him to, I'd rather just have ONE new character. Even as a paid DLC
95e809 No.14174579
>>14174354
>DLC
The game has mod support though.
fc19a7 No.14174626
>>14174579
That might be true, but, well, yeah. I'm that desperate.