/v/ - Video Games

It doesn't matter how many times it fails

They'll keep pushing it until it sticks

Just wait until Skyrim 2 or Fallout 4.5, when the creation club will be launched with the game and the free modding tools if it even has such a thing are more limited than what CDProjekt gave for Witcher 3.

>>14136169

This.

Also Bethesda Modder are mainly retarded self-absorbed niggers so they deserve to be treated like shit.

>>14136186

They mostly make the mods as part of their work portfolio, end up working nowhere but just begging for donations instead.

Who paid to Skyui dev to finally make it work on special edition? Someone sent millions to fucking interface modder just to get it on latest skse which breaks every creation club update.

The thing is, is that the quality is still that of amateurs, i.e not worth any sort of money.

>>14136234

Some of them were created by Bethesda themselves. I think the survival mod for Skyrim was mostly Bethesda with some help from Chesko, I don't know if that's entirely true, but that's what I've heard a couple of times.

>>14136234

The Bethesda drones were imagining they were going to get high quality, fanmade expansions with hours of content, when the CC is setup to only allow for shitty reskins and item mods.

>>14136250

Not to mention every times it updates and you DARE have a non CC mod installed it breaks the game.

>>14136186

Bethesda Modders may be retarded but at least they're not valvefags

>>14136328

They're worse though, they're getting bent over and fucked with no lube and they're enjoying it. They have the same bad qualities as valvefags, but they go above and beyond in cuckoldry.

>>14136349

>posting that homo

I'm so disappointed in you I don't know if I can call you my son anymore.

>>14136186

>Also Bethesda Modder are mainly retarded self-absorbed niggers so they deserve to be treated like shit.

Yet they still manage to out do Bethesda's devs.

>>14136169

Yep.

Look at what happened with the oblivion horse armour scenario.

Massive outcry and ridicule at paying real money for a couple of useless models that should have been in the original game.

Yet how many people bought it

More importantly, how many games adopted this weird, new "DLC" concept.

10,000s by now.

Thanks Elders of Zion Scrolls faggots!

Next game will require you to pay for items in the game shops in real money. Same with the trainers etc.

"Amazing life-like integration!! New Digital-Currency mode!! You can pay at blacksmiths with your credit card or bitcoin account with no hassel!"

>>14136184

Keep in mind that Fallout 4 had its mod support deliberately disabled in the initial versions, and when people figured out how to re-enable it Bethesda's PR head then made a public statement accusing people who did so of "hacking" the game. The recently released Fallout 4 VR officially does not have mod support, too.

>>14136386

Dump the game and forget it.

Console fags have ruined gaming since Halo.

That marine armor looks worse than some cosplay I've seen. Shame upon shame.

>>14136391

What is truly amazing is that people are willing to pay $60 for a broken and buggy rehash of a game that doesn't even work right.

>>14136403

>What is truly amazing is that people are willing to pay $60 for a broken and buggy rehash of a game that doesn't even work right.

Just tell people is a necessary consequence of all the freedom that the game provides.

>>14136161

I can just imagine a completely disconnected jew sitting in a publishing office rubbing his hands and talking to the accountant from bethesda.

Max Shekelberg: "So," -rubs hands- "how can we maaaaximise proooofits on Skyrim."

Accountant: "Well, sales are going well, 125 billion copies sold, mostly on consoles to retards, but 40% are on PCs, mostly because of the game being modifiable."

Max Shekelberg: "Modifiable? What, they can choose which guns and tanks they use?"

Accountant: "Not exactly, it means they can edit the game, make new things for it and play with them in the game, also give them to other players to try. They enjoy doing it, and they can't do it on the console versions."

Max Shekelberg: "WHAAT, they are making something FOR FREE!! WHATT, this is blasphemy!! We need to monetise this NOW."

Accountant: "But the editable nature of the game is part of the reason it is doing well."

Max Shekelberg: "So let's sell it, I suppose we have to give 0.1% to the ones who make it, same deal as singers and writers, then we take the rest. We just need a name."

Accountant: "er"

Max Shekelberg: "They're making stuff right, and we could give it a cool sounding name, kids love being in secret clubs, they have club houses, and we should give a nice ring to it, how about Kreation Klub Koncept."

Accountant: "That spells KKK. Might be bad press."

Max Shekelberg: "Creation Club then!!! SELL IT"

>>14136403

People have been used to taking it up the ass over and over, that's never going to change. Mods do fix it, I've never played FO4, but I had a lot of fun with modded NV and modded Skyrim. They'll keep fucking the consumer till they overtake EA.

>>14136422

Necessary consequence of their shitty game engine.

>>14136391

that wasn't the case for arena or daggerfall but morrowind came along and things came down from there

>>14136460

How long should the industry stay crashed for the marketing to wear off and people realize that Bethesda titles are shit?

>>14136425

I see it more like a cliche of ex modders now staff wishing for the old days thinking "gee my hard work making those realistic horse genitals mods really deserved some compensation, now that I'm above all those losers I should help them alittle being the nice guy that I am"

>farts out creation club idea

then hand that to shekelberg and that's a more reasonable situation tbh

>>14136483

Yeah, could be.

Some people tend to develop an instant self-entitled greed thing.

Pre-commercialisation on the internet, everything was for free. The only pay sites were the biggest porn sites, and those were easily bypassed.

After 1996, it went steadily to greedville, which became a megapolis after a couple of years.

Editing a game was always about fun, and wanting to do something good and see your work appreciated. If you were good, you could move towards releasing something for money, but these scraps and bits aren't worth anything. The idea of "donation" is pretty sickening too, people expecting to be paid for the hobby they choose to do. Peopl expecting to pay them for it is just as sickening. Shows a corrupt mindset.

Same with all recorded media.

100 years ago, music generally meant something done for your own pleasure and to give pleasure to others. There was no copyright on a folk song in an inn or played after dinner by the fire.

When it became recordable, then it suddenly became money oriented, and that poisoned it. Money poisons creativity.

>>14136478

they weren't shit was my point, they became shit thanks to the wrong people in positions they really shouldn't be and the general consumer thinking "this experience is enough" and the more die-hard thinking "doesn't matter muh mods" but even if those two hated it the people who could help change things are far too up their own ass to even bother unless it got them more revenue from their shitty "journalistic" articles

>>14136517

>Money poisons creativity.

I have to disagree with that point, some of the greatest artworks were commissioned. I think a better way of looking at it is, commercialization poisons creativity. That's what you're describing really.

>>14136517

nah you're wrong, back then everything was about making money, the only difference is the standards were higher because the family unit wasn't completely trashed yet

>>14136575

Pete Hines is such a cunt. Does he think he's fooling anyone when he says he plays the games?

>>14136584

I'm sure he's played them as well as I'm sure he doesn't have the right attitude for them

>>14136573

Not everything was about money, as money wasn't the centre of life for most people.

A lot of people, especially in the states lived off farming. 2/3 of the population or so, even in 1930 or after. Their lives were more or less covered by their work, then they made extra on top.

Music, games and so on weren't to do with money. If you wanted a chess set, you could make one.

Editing games really started in Doom times, followed by Duke 3D, but then Quake 1 came and that's when it really became something big. There were 2-3 total conversions which were sold, and were complete, professional level things. There were 100,000s released for the fun of it, because you had an idea and thought it would be fun.

The internet hobbyist died in the 90s with the lifting of the commercialisation regulations.

>>14136571

Maybe that's right. I think either way, it is when money becomes the main factor - then all else is lost.

That isn't a natural or healthy way of being, let alone decent.

>>14136635

bethesda, is that you?

>>14136635

what?

>>14136633

>That isn't a natural or healthy way of being

Appealing to nature isn't a great argument, profit has always been a thing in nature anyways. Not in terms of shekel grubbing, but the idea of expending a resources for more resources and gaining a profit. Commercialization, appealing to the broadest market, makes the product mediocre at best. Sure people will buy it, but they'll forget about when the next hot new mediocre thing comes out. Bethesda makes their money and their name due to modding. You think anyone would give a shit about Skyrim or Fallout 4 if there was no mods? Fuck no. Money isn't a problem, making profit isn't a problem, what is a problem is making a bland product that isn't bad but isn't that good to make a quick buck, then keep doing that every year or every other year. That's stagnation, and stagnation eventually leads to death. Sorry for the rambling.

>>14136623

>1930

that's because city life didn't effect every other living yet but the great depression was still a thing which effected alot of people over in america more and over here in England but you can keep on looking back all you like there's hardly been a time without want

>>14136584

He does play them, he just gives up when he ends up in a conversation he can't just walk away from mid dialogue.

>>14136662

the thing is all big companies now have to make as much money as possible inorder so that they don't get bought out by another bigger company. that's the name of the game, that's been the name since the stock market came about

>>14136662

>>14136665

It's true that much of life is expending energy to gain something, but if you have a healhy life, no matter if it is modern or old, if times are not bleak, you find time to do something for pleasure, peace of mind, to help others or improve the world in some way beyond direct return.

Why did women sit around sewing quilts? A plain quilt is warm enough. They didn't sell them generally.

Why did men sit around whittling, it wasn't to sell the little ornaments. It was generally for fun, a hobby. To use your potential skills that might not have a direct correllation with return.

If you play a game and become good at it, is it always so you can sell youtube views and become an e-celeb and win competitions, or is it because you want to challenge yourself.

If you go for a hike in the woods, is it to collect as many lost mobile phones as you can and sell them for 10 times the price on ebay?

There is a great swathe of life which is not focussed on money, or any kind of direct economic or resource based return.

That concept is clearly being lost, with the saturation of advertisements and the promotion of greed as a 'healthy' mindset.

>>14136386

Why would anyone want to play Fallout 4 unmodded? I tried to play it once and it was unbearable.

>>14136691

families back then were 10-12 strong

then when money became more predominant families went right down to 6-4

nowerdays what's expected is 1 and maybe a kid

you cannot assume those morals of the past have any use in a present where life styles are vastly different

When will they "update" Morrowind, Oblivion and Fallout 3 to have this shit. I'm sure as fuck some kikes working at Bethesda want this to happen.

>>14136722

they can't because those things have already established stuff.

if they were to though they'd have to rerelease the game under a hd remake or remaster and try to sell the game off being a totally different game

>>14136722

They won't. They don't want retards going back to their old games since their was at least of spark of creativity behind them.

>>14136720

So every facet of your life is monetised?

Who is paying you to type on this board, how much do you earn per hour?

How do you successfully monetise your other hobbies.

When you go for a bike ride, do you make sure it is to deliver newspapers.

When you go for a drive, is it as a courier.

When you visit your friends, do you use the opportunity to test-drive some new shoes for your monetised youtube review channel.

I'm not talking only about 100 years ago, or 50 years ago. There are plenty of people now who do things for a hobby, or to improve their own skill, or to bring pleasure to other people, or just to show people what they have made. I don't see why this concept is difficult to understand. I thought it was common throughout humanity.

If you really believe that every second of every day is spent obtaining resources, you have a deep sickness, the like of which only Max Shekelberg can understand.

>>14136739

I want to fuck the power armor

>>14136746

for alot more people then we realize, yes that kinda mind set is what's keeping them out of the street in a cardboard box, they have no real time to them selves, sleep and work is everything. why? it's not due to the ever decreasing skill sets and general intelligence dropping, it's about the lack of opportunities population creates from over saturation that and the money gap, there's no such thing as self made millionaires anymore it's all just trust-funds and inheritance. so yeah there's no community anymore, people don't need other people.

>>14136735

>they can't because those things have already established stuff.

Really, you forget about Skyrim.

>>14136737

That's a reason I can get behind.

>>14136794

it's not for skyrim, it's for the special edition o skyrim

>>14136374

I only know it as the angry gay dog sounds. What show is it?

>>14138259

I didn't knew Sam Hyde is so fucking /v/. I expected him to like nu-doom. I guess he's indeed a fucking nerd.

>>14136186

like every 2 out of 10 of them make the devs look like they developed the game by banging keyboards together while sitting in front of a bink video kit

>>14138481

He's always been /ourguy/

>>14138481

>>14147008

Later in the comments he said he played through the whole game and said it was good.

>>14141996

Autism still isn't a proper replacement for actual skill. People can shit out Enderals all they want, the fundamental mechanics of Skyrim will remain shit. Same goes for FO4. That's what these people can't comprehend.

>>14136241

They put the name of the author who made it in abbreviations, you can just look at the plugin to see who made it. Survival was made by "QDR", but all but two other mods were made by Bethesda themselves.

Zenimax's business practice might be shit, but I unironically enjoyed Fallout 4 more than the rest of the series. I mean, I enjoyed Fallout 1 and 2 in an interactive comedic novel sort of way, with some role playing of course, but the gameplay is fucked. Fallout 3, Tactics, and New Vegas were just utter shit. I don't care what you think, FO4 is the only Fallout game where I legitimately had fun with the gameplay.

I just noticed that the FO4 thread was deleted. It wasn't even a thread about FO4. These mods seem like sensitive soy fags.

>>14147171

Pretty much all Sam Hyde's shtick is le multi layered ironic numale humour. I bet he smokes weed and sucks trannies in real life.

>>14147684

Pretty much. He’s the “adult” version of someone like Filthy Frank, using “shocking” and “controversial” humor to draw in the edgelord audience. Sort of like how Pewdiepie updated his shtick because all the twelve year olds who started watching him in 2011 are all eighteen years old now.

>>14136196

Did he really get that much? He should go hit up some place without extradition and live like a god without delivering, Skyrim players deserve that.

>>14147829

>the people who liked pewdiepie in their preteens are now adults

wew