ef0e20 No.14096048
>Make good game with good gameplay and no censorship
>Get shit reviews because reviewers are too shit and pozzed
>Make shit pozzed game with self censorship and little to no gameplay
>Get game of the year
Can we really blame companies for making total ass when creativity and good design is punished?
4344da No.14096051
>78
>shit
oh right i forgot,modern review scales are retarded
a62bd3 No.14096058
>>14096048
>Wonderful 101 sales
While it's a shame it tanked, picking it for comparison purposes is not that pertinent.
3819b1 No.14096063
Companies just gives what the gamers wants
They want shit? They'll get shit, simple as that
As long you have a majority of plebs who will fall for marketing and peer pressure without thinking for themselves, we'll keep having shallow games
KILL ALL THE ENABLERS
0700e6 No.14096064
>>14096051
If a game isn't 95+ for some reason people who look to numerical scores think the game is shit.
22b366 No.14096082
>>14096071
>what console it's on decides how good a game is
Holy moly, are you stupid.
fc451a No.14096090
They shouldn't be caring about awards and about what their customers, the ones that actually buy their games, think about it. The ones that actually play games all the way to the end are more valuable than the reviewers who rush reviews for a quick buck. That's the problem with basing pay on metacritic scores and award shows in general. It's all ego stroking nonsense that matters for the short term with no long lasting goal in mind.
4344da No.14096105
>>14096088
From what i've heard it's actually shaped up quite nicely with updates,still not something i'd pay full price for though.
a591f9 No.14096176
>Caring about review scores
4344da No.14096180
>>14096126
Yeah yeah suck me off nigger
e4bd6f No.14096187
Last of Us is such a piece of shit non-game. It's perfect for reviewers. They get to harp on about "issues" and pretend they are good at games at the same time.
2c6e34 No.14096215
>>14096058
You get the point, TLoU is a shitty game yets get raving reviews to the point where normalfags are parroting how it's the best game ever and anyone who disagrees is a nintendrone. Just go to any video gaming site other than here and you'll see that I'm right.
ec430f No.14096286
>>14096105
Last time I played it it felt like a walking simulator where they desperately tried to add on gaming mechanics. All the new additions to game play are basically
>well you want to walk around and explore?
>haha everything is broken go fix it
>>14096187
Reviewers always rate non-games higher because they suck at games and they aren't frustrated by the non-existent game play. I usually take a few points off their scores for story-games, and add a few points for games that are difficult to try and make up for it.
d5e552 No.14096533
corruption and perversion runs deep in the western industry. It won't be something you can just hope will turn around by pointing out a discrepancy.
e77aa2 No.14096551
>>14096531
>Are you implying that the guy was put in charge democratically?
Even better, German women had suffrage and they voted for Hitler's guys!
fe9ef0 No.14096621
>>14096527
Or you could support devs that don't give a shit about promoting Marxism and focus on making good games like Cuphead so that walking simulators die off by lack of popularity and funds. Isn't it more satisfying to see them find ways to bring down better games despite them not being propagandas and are just focused on embracing themselves as games?
ef0e20 No.14096715
>>14096703
Sorry for getting in the way of your autistic RP
e4da8b No.14096761
>>14096621
I didn't think anyone could be this retarded , but god damn.
5cd784 No.14096767
>>14096621
>3 likes
>9 likes, six
who gives a shit ?
a232d2 No.14096777
>>14096772
>/v/ - Video Games
5cd784 No.14096785
>/pol/ vs /leftypol/ and everything in between shiflinging again
>>14096777
checking them and the post
d4054b No.14097115
>That pruning
I get why you delete most of them, but why would you leave posts like this afterward?
>>14096715
>>14096180
2c6e34 No.14097129
>>14097115
Because it's just small time banter, if it gets worse I'll delete it later
834ae6 No.14097348
>>14096621
Woke game critic is a parody account. The other is legit though.
ef0e20 No.14097410
I don't watch movies but are movie critics just as bad? Do they like non movies?
a232d2 No.14097432
>>14097410
Look at reviews for the last Jedi and see the answer.
144297 No.14097446
>>14097410
Just like game critics, having a diverse cast of characters and having the right message is far more important than actually making a good game/movie.
487a80 No.14097453
>>14096051
>modern
it's been like that since forever
cb55e0 No.14097491
>>14096621
>@wokegamecritic
>@adobsoncomics
A parody and a brain dead
166109 No.14097510
>>14097491
Dobson still being alive is proof that natural selection has completely and utterly failed.
ef0e20 No.14097517
>>14097510
You say that but both know he won't reproduce
166109 No.14097524
>>14097517
>reproduce
Never use that word in the same sentence as him. Never.
f69904 No.14097537
>AAA GAMES WITH BIG ADVERTISING BUDGETS GET BETTER REVIEWS FROM THE SMALL STUDIOS
>HOW>?>!!>!
stop being a fucking idiot, so long as AAA games publishers pay review sites big ad money to keep their games on the sites banner ads for 4 months leading up to the game they site in question can't in their right mind give it a bad review. We're also aware the most reviewers are casual idiots who love non-games and fluff
31f2b2 No.14097554
>>14096048
If they are making games for reviewers they are doing it wrong.
eb1a46 No.14099084
>>14096187
>>14096286
>>14096215
>TLoU is a shitty game yets get raving reviews to the point where normalfags are parroting how it's the best game ever and anyone who disagrees is a nintendrone. Just go to any video gaming site other than here and you'll see that I'm right.
I remember someone here on /v/ who posted a screencap about a guy who apparently worked for an advertisement company of some sort, who was hired to basically shill for "undertale" like there's no Tomorrow, to the point of making up fake polls where undertale was going to win best game against titles like mario or zelda and ridicule whoever didn't consider undertale to be the best game ever.
The goal was to reach a point where the general consensus was that undertale was one if not THE best game of all time, and people who disagreed were going to be ridiculed and called ignorant, contrarian and shit like that, because EVERYONE knew how undertale was the best thing since sliced bread.
Anyone remember that?
I think that the same shit happened with (((The Kike of US)))
21002e No.14099102
>>14096088
Just looked at the review score,it's still mixed,guess they haven't fixed it up enough.
93890c No.14099150
>review scores
who the fuck cares
49454c No.14099200
8727f2 No.14099428
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>14096780
>imagine: party babiez scored higher EoS, arguably one of the best pokemon games and inarguably one of the contenders for best OST on the DS
kek
c5a982 No.14099480
Someone post that Adam Sessler review of last of us that ends with him getting an A- on his English paper.
ebb70e No.14099559
>>14099084
I mostly remember all these threads made by people who hated undertale and pretended like it was the best shit ever to make people hate this game, and I'm not talking about the generals threads.
Now I can understand shitting up shill threads, but making entire thread for that was retarded
Same shit happened with nier automata recently
f76959 No.14103576
>>14096780
>>14103436
>Using reviews to justify that the game isn't shit
Just stop Kamiyatards.
2b3b3a No.14103584
c05ba8 No.14103613
>>14096048
the Last of Us got good reviews mostly cus muh graphics and $ony shekkels the muh story part along with the poz are the reason it got a 10/10 GOTY instead of a 9/10 but the bulk of the review scores is rooted in how the "game" looks and $onyggers shilling
c05ba8 No.14103661
>>14099084
the wanted to push Endertale into the "Citicen Kane" of Vidya so they could use it as a plataform to justify themselves as they pushed for similar low effort garvage
they failed cus no matter if the game had actual good points in it's favour, normalfags just want shinny, and undertale ain't shinny, it's hippster
TLOU is shinny, as shinny as it is expencive, no indie hippster has the budget to make such a polished turd that normalfags eat up like a fly would, hippsters praised it for many reasons, the poz, the lack of gameplay, $ony shekkels but all of their shilling fell on deaf normie ears as their small normie minds were still hypnotized by the expencive shinny graphics
>>14099559
>Same shit happened with nier automata recently
Nier had hot ninja robo waifus and a platinum style combat sistem
it had enough to it's favours that people would shill it for free just cus they liked it
>>14103576
i hope that post of yours was not an insult directed at God Hand motherfucker
that game is fucking awsome
beat it like 10 times alrready and i still keep coming back for more every now and then
Besides, it was made by Shinji Mikamy, not Kamiya
7322b1 No.14103878
>>14096063
I'm going to need more details on the game with the lemon scented amputee girl
258085 No.14117744
>>14096048
Wonderful 101 was one of the greatest games of 8th gen. A shame it was one of the only good games on the Wii U.
65c743 No.14117807
>>14117744
It's the only game that hasn't made my WiiU obsolete, yet.
Can't wait for the Deluxe-version on the Switch.
35627d No.14117814
>>14096048
>boohoo Wonderful 101 flopped
Genius idea making it a WiiU exclusive m80
af01b8 No.14118316
>>14096533
That is why we go for the kill by organizing boycotts, subverting the marketing, alerting normalfags and ensuring that the corrupted developers lose as many sales as possible.
b31cef No.14118571
the last of us had actually really good third person shooting parts in between long periods of dialogue and walking simulation. but the parts that had actual action were pretty top tier. just not nearly enough of it and too much bullshit in between. if you played the game on its 1 good difficulty (turn it up until spider sense turns off, then play) its a solid 7/10.
was wonderful 101 actually good though? i hear alot of mixed things about it. most agree the game is super short (which i'd prefer over lengthening it with walking simulation and dialogue if the action is solid) but i've heard its kinda easy and repetitive, but "unique". doesnt really sell it for me. and gameplay looks pretty generic. what's good about it?
838f2d No.14118637
I liked TLoU
The gameplay was fun, the story and world were interesting, the stealth could of been better but it's not awful. Worth the $5 I paid and 8 hours I spent with it
I don't have a WiiU so I can't speak for Wonderful 101
258085 No.14118660
>>14118571
>was wonderful 101 actually good though?
Yes
>but i've heard its kinda easy and repetitive, but "unique".
It's like Devil May Cry and Bayonetta - just beating the game on the base difficulty isn't too tough, the appeal is for the people who want to go back and try to get all perfect scores on the hardest modes which require mastering the game's mechanics.
4cdf5d No.14118673
>>14096048
You could have picked a better example. Next time, try a game that more than ten people have played.
0dd03c No.14118696
>>14118637
>could of
I think I can see just why you liked it, "anon"
11eff5 No.14118703
>Giving a shit about review scores post 2012
35627d No.14118711
>>14118316
>That is why we go for the kill by organizing boycotts
Oy vey don't let gamergate hear you, don't you know boycotts make for BAD PR???
2d020c No.14118717
>>14118703
sage for offtopic
b31cef No.14118799
>>14118660
>get all perfect scores on the hardest modes which require mastering the game's mechanics.
so im guessing this doesnt fall into the pitfall of "whats fun becomes completely unviable, and whats tedious becomes the only viable strategy"? thats pretty refreshing if true.
bf8329 No.14118822
>>14118571
>most agree the game is super short
It's 28 missions total, which is almost longer than Bayonetta 1 and 2 put together, and those are already slightly longer than most stylish action games: DMC1 can be beaten in about ninety minutes, Viewtiful Joe in 2 hours, MGR in 3 hours. I don't know who told you it was short.
>i've heard its kinda easy and repetitive, but "unique". doesnt really sell it for me. and gameplay looks pretty generic. what's good about it?
The wonder liner inputs a) are unlike any other action game on the market and b) mean you have every weapon and technique in the game freely available you to at any time without having to go through a menu or a wheel selection, for one thing.
258085 No.14118832
>>14118799
Honestly, not sure, don't have a Wii U myself so I just played it at a friend's house. It seemed like it had enough variety in the abilities and shit you get that you should be able to get creative with it, but I can't give an honest opinion since I haven't actually gotten that far. If the Switch ever becomes worth owning I might pick up the supposed remake I'm hearing about.
679ba5 No.14118859
>>14103436
There is a blog somewhere devoted to recording times imagine party babyz has outscored actual games. According to IGN, games lile Ruiner, Let It Die, NieR, nuDOOM, Dead Rising Off The Record, Kirby's Air Ride, and Persona 1 all pale in comparison to the incredible gameplay of Imagine Party Babyz.
b31cef No.14118868
>>14118822
"professional game reviewers" said they beat the game in like 4-6 hours.
your other metrics are clearly speedruns.
aside from that, your "a" point was just "unique" which i already said i heard about it. your "b" point could you elaborate more on this? most non-rpg games i play i have all the stuff available to me from the start, but then theres usually a "best" way to do something so that all goes right out the window and it just turns into only using abilities that arent the "best" for specific enemies. what does this game do to keep it interesting?
0dd03c No.14118967
bf8329 No.14118980
>>14118868
"Professional game reviewers" are shitters who stumbled through the game thanks to the lenient continue system and a majority of them don't actually finish the games they claim to. The most famous example from W101's launch was this jackass who claimed to beat the game but also never figured out what Unite Guts is used for, which is one of your two major defensive options.
>your other metrics are clearly speedruns.
You clearly haven't played those games (and you should) if you think those times are unrepresentative of a typical playthrough. The DMC1 speedrun record is under 40 minutes, actually.
>your "b" point could you elaborate more on this?
In a majority of other action games you'd have two weapons (or three, if it's DMC4) which you toggle through using one of the triggers as you use combos, and you have to go through a menu to choose which weapons are in those spots. For W101 you can draw any weapon you like at any time. You can draw a sword, use a stinger, switch to the hand, launch with an uppercut, switch to the gun, juggle, switch to the bomb, freeze them in place, switch to the claws to keep the juggle going, slam the enemy back to the ground with the hammer, use Unite Tombstone to launch them back up while you're falling, etc. Having 10+ weapons available to you at all times means there's more open combo potential than a lot of other action games out there.
>but then theres usually a "best" way to do something so that all goes right out the window and it just turns into only using abilities that arent the "best" for specific enemies. what does this game do to keep it interesting?
It might be easy to see it that way on a first playthrough, but most enemies have a number of viable techniques, not just one. For example you'd probably see the turtle enemies as the "hammer" enemies at first, since that's the only weapon that breaks their shell, but you can also use the whip to pull their tails and stun them, or use Guts to parry their stomp attack and flip them over, use Team Attack to pin them in place, or use Unite Hand to make yourself immune to their fire attacks instead of dodging them. The only enemies that really shoehorn you into one single technique are the Gedie Dough-goo enemies, since they're only weak to the whip.
258085 No.14118991
>>14118980
>can use in-game earned points to purchase health replenishing items
But… but you'd never spend it on those, you'd spend it on upgrades and new skills.
>default difficulty setting offers up a significant challenge
No? It's pretty easy, especially if you're not going for a high score.
b31cef No.14119010
>>14118980
professional game reviewers are trash, confirming my point that the game seems easy and short. if the guy beat the game without ever learning a main defensive option, doesnt that mean it's not that important?
but before we get into that
i have played all of those games, when they were new. except i never beat viewtiful joe, because that game's trash.
if you cant even concede that dmc1 takes longer than 90 minutes to beat, im going to just disregard your opinions altogether since youre not capable of rational thought.
>10+ weapons
how do you use these different weapons without having to switch to them?
ok, so only a few enemies actually force you to beat them a certain way, so doesnt that mean the rest of the enemies can be beaten with the "best" combo making the game repetitive? i mean, it kinda sounds like the game can be beaten with button mashing and not even blocking, and youre arguing you CAN do more. but if its not required, and if the game doesnt offer enough of a challenge to require it of you, whats the point? so you can be more stylish? or beat the enemies faster?
140247 No.14119032
>>14096048
>good game gets better ratings than bad game
Shocking!
eaf24b No.14119050
>>14119032
>The Last of Us
>Good
I though you NeoFags had a new site to spew your drivel on.
bf8329 No.14119072
>>14119010
>if the guy beat the game without ever learning a main defensive option, doesnt that mean it's not that important?
The ONLY reason reviewers beat the game, if they even did (since almost no reviewers showed footage beyond Operation 006), is because you're allowed to continue the game from the point you died indefinitely. Every continue drops you a full rank at the end, but that's not a punishment to anyone who doesn't care about their rank. I don't know where you're getting the 4-6 hour figure, anyway, since it's really at odds with a majority of reported completion times.
>how do you use these different weapons without having to switch to them?
Do you understand how the wonder liner works? I didn't say you don't switch to them, I said weapon switching doesn't work the same way it does for other games. You just draw the weapon you want. Straight line for the sword, circle for the hand, right angle for the gun, etc.
>it kinda sounds like the game can be beaten with button mashing and not even blocking, and youre arguing you CAN do more. but if its not required
If you get hit, not only do you receive a damage penalty, but it also knocks out members of your team, meaning you are unable to draw unite morphs (meaning you are unable to either attack enemies or dodge/block any oncoming attacks) until you round your team back up. It's definitively mechanically impossible to make it through the game by mashing buttons and tanking damage through each encounter. I'll reiterate that the ONLY reason this would not be true is that dying multiple times during each enemy encounter doesn't actually keep you from beating the game, you're never forced to get good and a lot of people never did.
>ok, so only a few enemies actually force you to beat them a certain way, so doesnt that mean the rest of the enemies can be beaten with the "best" combo making the game repetitive?
You really want me to wax on the multitude of equally viable techniques for every single enemy type? The last post and this one were already long enough.
bf8329 No.14119090
>>14119010
If HowLongToBeat's survey isn't persuasive enough for you, consider that mathematically, even assuming that reviewers beat the game in 6 hours and not 4, that's an average completion time of 12 minutes per sub-operation. Pure Platinum completion times (from people who actually know what they are doing) are at best 15 minutes apiece if not 20-30 for longer missions like 006-B or 009-C. If a reviewer is claiming they beat the game in that time they are lying through their teeth.
f275a5 No.14119092
>>14118868
>your other metrics are clearly speedruns.
Not really, no. I recently got the Stormbringer cheevo in MGR and the game is pretty damn short when you skip all the cutscenes and arent dying/retrying all the time, and even then there are still some in-game cutscenes you cannot skip. You don't even have to intentionally speedrun for such a time because the game is really that short, obviously those times do not include deaths.
>>14119010
>if the guy beat the game without ever learning a main defensive option, doesnt that mean it's not that important
The guy tanking his way through the game by spamming healing potions and continues at the serious cost of his rank, which is in the game so casuals can at least get the experience of the game and so Platinum doesn't completely become a niche developer, but they're discouraged through clear and obvious scoring penalties so superplayers have something to work towards. You really should know this if you have actually played these games.
>confirming my point that the game seems easy and short
Having played those games should also let you know that they always have multiple difficulty settings where the harder or more harder difficulty tends to be leaps above normal difficulty, are you seriously going to use the baseline of a journalist playing the game on Normal or lower for the game's difficulty? If you actually, seriously, played these games, then you should also know they encourage playing for rank hunting after you're capable of just surviving, where you're aiming for an excellent performance instead of just passable. See: Style Meter
>how do you use these different weapons without having to switch to them?
<For W101 you can draw any weapon you like at any time
>so doesnt that mean the rest of the enemies can be beaten with the "best" combo making the game repetitive? i mean, it kinda sounds like the game can be beaten with button mashing and not even blocking, and youre arguing you CAN do more
Again, if you really have played these games, then you should know that each combo has its own uses and that not every combo is useful in every situation, and is not always useful because you're constantly thrown into different situations with different groups of enemies of different types, each with their own dangers and vulnerabilities. Which combo suits the current situation best depends on your judgement. And for the love of god, don't actually use the opinions of someone fucking terrible at the game as a baseline, most of the time any brought up gripes are easily explained away.
>but if its not required, and if the game doesnt offer enough of a challenge to require it of you, whats the point? so you can be more stylish? or beat the enemies faster?
Skill ceilings like these exist to separate excellent players from good players. If you're really good at the game, then you can play in the most aggressive and effective way possible, which is in turn also the most dangerous way of playing because of the risks involved as opposed to playing it slow and safe. It gives people a metric by which to improve at the game and see how far they can take it. See: Taunting/Keeping up combos/parrying rather than dodging attacks. Often aggression is intertwined with efficiency, so you're honestly losing out if you don't.
Didn't you ask these same questions in a cuhrazy thread some while ago here? Because I can tell it was you.
b31cef No.14119156
>>14119072
most of the reviews complaint was the game was short, followed by them saying that.
oh… so the game has continue rules like bioshock? that sucks.
>wonder liner
what? so you basically switch weapons by drawing different shapes? anon… that's not unique and is no different from just a hotkey or keypad. and its not much different from just scrolling through them.
ok, so yea, to beat the game you can just button mash. doing "better' just gets you a better score, but is entirely optional.
i didnt ask how many ways to skin a cat, i asked if i can skin all the cats the same way, and you already answered that. and its a yes, aside from a couple enemies that require you to skin them a different way.
>>14119092
you guys are pretty much confirming what i heard, but justifying it. thanks for the info though. doesn't sound like it's for me.
af01b8 No.14119186
>>14119032
Check out this soyboy filled with contempt and impotency still thinking that he will convince (real) people that his shitty games are worth anything.
How are things with the whores, eh? I bet that they sure "love" some soyboy without any manhood. Getting all the pussies?
>>14118711
If they truly think that way, then they really are useless now.
Well organized boycotts and smear campaigns against leftists and other corrupt pieces of shit always work.
Not even Star Wars and Disney could get away from boycotts.
bf8329 No.14119226
>>14119156
>what? so you basically switch weapons by drawing different shapes? anon… that's not unique and is no different from just a hotkey or keypad. and its not much different from just scrolling through them.
Of course it's fucking different. Drawing weapons of different sizes affects the damage output, and you can draw multiple weapons at the same time which means that you have to ration both your battery meter and the literal number of teammates involved in those morphs. You also have to draw the weapon in the same physical space the enemies occupy, meaning that you can't draw a certain shape if an enemy is blocking you. I have never once in another game had an enemy preclude me from switching to another weapon when I wanted to.
>ok, so yea, to beat the game you can just button mash.
Only because of the continue system. Attacks don't stunlock enemies, meaning you can't "mash" to win since an enemy will inevitably attack you, and I already explained why you can't tank damage. If you're fine with dying hundreds of times throughout the game and never want to learn to play correctly, then I suppose you can "beat" the game, sure.
>i didnt ask how many ways to skin a cat, i asked if i can skin all the cats the same way
They can't. Good luck trying to kill a turtle, a dragon, a Hoedown, or a Doora by mashing the basic Unite Hand combo, if you think that you can button mash your way through the game effectively. Jesus Christ man, I don't understand what your goal is here, you clearly know nothing about the game at all but are perfectly comfortable talking about it in hypotheticals.
b31cef No.14119351
>>14119226
i was asking questions, not "talking in hypotheticals", blame people answering my questions if thats what i got out of it.
it sounds like a super easy game that had potential and depth but at the last second some retard made a stupid decision to casualize it for children.
i wasnt aware how weapons worked, hence why i asked. it sounds like a gimmicky "drawing" system done with some depth, but outside of that the rest of the game seems pretty standard. but outside of that, all of that depth is rendered obsolete when you can just repeat the same combo to beat the majority of enemies. aside from the few that force you to beat them in a specific way.
>never want to learn to play correctly, then I suppose you can "beat" the game, sure.
that should never be the case. do you have any idea how shitty that is?
e8d714 No.14119401
>>14119032
Kojima, is that you?
d38287 No.14119404
Start your own journalist organization retard.
This shit will never get fixed because a game is really good, investors don't care.
bf8329 No.14119434
>>14119351
>i was asking questions, not "talking in hypotheticals"
You took a few snippets from bad reviews and then explicated "if that's true, this must be true", it's definitively hypothetical. It's an awful basis for questions anyway, if that hilarious 4-6 hour figure is anything to go by.
>it sounds like a super easy game that had potential and depth but at the last second some retard made a stupid decision to casualize it for reviewers
They made the continue system the way it is because otherwise (with a DMC-style life system) it would be so tough that 95% of people would never finish it. Criticizing a stylish action game by the lowest common denominator instead of understanding the height of the skill ceiling is such a misunderstanding of the genre I don't really believe you're that familiar with these games.
>all of that depth is rendered obsolete when you can just repeat the same combo to beat the majority of enemies. aside from the few that force you to beat them in a specific way.
The only specific enemy I mentioned that forced you to beat them in a specific way were the Gedie Dough-Goo, so I don't know where you're getting "the few" from, and I never said that you can just repeat the same combo to beat the majority of enemies, so I have NO idea where you're getting that from.
>blame people answering my questions if thats what i got out of it.
Are you ESL? "what i got out of it" is admitting that you're speaking hypothetically based on what little information people have told you. Even then it's a shitty point, I can't be blamed if you're totally misinterpreting every answer.
b31cef No.14119477
>>14119434
i never said the reviews were true about the length. i just said what i heard. stop projecting.
>with a DMC-style life system
they managed to make it eaven more cheating than quicksaving anon. you cant think of ANY other continue system? maybe a checkpoint system? anything would be better. stop defending casual bullshit.
>>14119434
>I have NO idea where you're getting that from.
read the thread instead of shitting it up with your autism.
>"what i got out of it" is admitting that you're speaking hypothetically
read the thread instead of shitting it up with your autism.
e8d714 No.14119498
>>14118859
>tfw the best Persona game is one of the lowest-rated ones
There are too many plebs in this world.
bf8329 No.14119515
>>14119477
>read the thread
So is that a yes on the ESL thing? Nobody ever told you that every enemy could be beaten with the same combo.
>i just said what I heard. stop projecting.
And what you heard was plainly wrong, so a lot of reasonable people might realize that talking about a game you haven't played based on spurious second-hand knowledge is a bad idea. What am I "projecting" exactly? That makes literally no sense in this context.
f275a5 No.14119532
>>14119477
>they managed to make it eaven more cheating than quicksaving anon
The game flat out tells you right in your face that you fucking suck if you use continues through shit scores and medals, and only people who don't care about rank or getting good would set that aside. If you want to play the game as is intended (as is obviously represented through the scoring system), you need to restrict yourself from using continues. It'd be a problem like quicksaving if it didn't tell you that being able to shrug off damage and deaths is not intended through its ranking system. You could play the game, continuefeed your whole way through, and view the ending on Normal (or lower) difficulty while getting shit ranks all over. And once you do post your hot opinions about the game here, what's very likely to happen is that everyone is going to call you a scrub because you never put in the effort to get the most out of the game.
The fun isn't automatically going to get to you, you don't need to use every tool at your disposal just to survive especially when the game penalizes you for it. You wouldn't judge an arcade game with a creditfeed run either, would you? It's a matter of self-restriction, but unlike most cases, a justified matter of self-restriction. Stuff like healing items and continues exist so people can have more control over their learning curve, some people like to practice with a handicap, some people like doing it the hard way.
What's hypothetical is how you keep assuming this shit about the game which doesn't even completely represent the truth and keep using it as the baseline for your argument when instead you could just play the game for yourself and find out. You keep assuming it's too ez because of continues without taking into consideration the different difficulty settings and the fact that you're better off not using continues even though I already told you. You keep assuming you can spam a certain combo over and over because of your preconceived notions about the genre even though anyone who has actually played the game will tell you that is not the case, and the only metric you judge by whether you need to use different combos is enemies on which only a certain attack type works, which is terrible for chaining different combos together and using the most out of the system, on par with color-coded enemies in Donte May Cry.
af01b8 No.14119533
>>14119404
Organizing means to kill the investors would work as well. Thanks.
We can always rig their cars and planes or poison their food and make it look lika an "accident" or a health problem gone wrong.
b31cef No.14119534
>>14119515
>Nobody ever told you that every enemy could be beaten with the same combo.
i never said that you illiterate subhuman.
>second hand knowledge.
and what would you consider the info i'm getting in this thread? first hand?
god you're a dumbass.
you're projecting that i accept everything i hear as fact.
d65d77 No.14119536
>>14119498
Persona 1 is the epitome of horrible game design in every aspect. Take off your nostalgia goggles.
bf8329 No.14119670
>>14119534
>i never said that you illiterate subhuman.
The precise quote is "you can just repeat the same combo to beat the majority of enemies" >>14119351. I said I had no idea where you're getting that from, and you told me to read the thread. Nobody in the thread ever suggested that this was true, so you're either misinterpreting something or just making it up. Holy shit, the irony of claiming that I'M illiterate when you're too dense to follow this basic line of questioning.
>and what would you consider the info i'm getting in this thread? first hand?
The info you're getting in this thread is also second-hand, my point is that you shouldn't be taking what people are saying, anons or reviewers alike, and then making assumptions about it. Was "explicate" too big of a word for you? That's what I was talking about.
>you're projecting that i accept everything i hear as fact.
That's not "projection" you dense motherfucker, that's just an assumption.
e8d714 No.14119686
>>14119536
Nice try Hashino, but maybe you should abstain from talking about good game design until you've learned what it is.
b31cef No.14119842
>>14119670
>every enemy could be beaten with the same combo
>the same combo to beat the majority of enemies
9/10 illiterate retards can't spot the difference! can you? apparently not, dipshit
it's time to stop posting anon. just go play your shitty easy game.
bf8329 No.14119907
>>14119842
Do you seriously, SERIOUSLY, need me to adjust that statement to say "the majority of enemies could be beaten with the same combo", as though a marginal difference in the degree of the claim would make it any less baseless or incorrect? Are you that much of a pedantic faggot? This from the cunt who just learned what projection was half an hour ago?
>it's time to stop posting anon
I think every post of yours I'm forced to read is killing a few brain cells, so you might be right.
b31cef No.14119940
>>14119907
>difference between all and most
>pedantic
nigger, most enemies apparently can be beaten with the same combo, since only a few pigeonhole you into doing something different. please prove otherwise.
bf8329 No.14120046
>>14119940
It is pedantic because saying "every" and "the majority" are functionally similar claims and are equally false. You do understand what "pedantic" means, right? That's not too big of a word for you?
>most enemies apparently can be beaten with the same combo, since only a few pigeonhole you into doing something different.
I feel like a broken record, because, again, I have no idea where you're getting "a few" from. I only mentioned one specific enemy that requires one specific strategy to beat, and even then it's only during its first phase. Other enemies have some similar invulnerabilites you have to work around but the Gedie Dough-Goos are the only ones which are only weak to one weapon during their first phase. Even then, like >>14119532 said, taking that kind of attitude as the sole determiner of combo variety is such a shitty and simplistic outlook on action games that there's no way you play enough of them to have this discussion.
>please prove otherwise.
It's like you haven't learned anything. Why would I take the time to explain the spectrum of viable strategies against each individual enemy type? It's not like there's any way for you to vet whether what I'm saying holds water or is even true at all because you don't know the first thing about this game, and it's for that same reason that it's impossible for you to respond in any meaningful way. You're just speculating on what the game might be like based on your second-hand knowledge. This isn't a discussion, this is me bouncing ideas off a stubborn wall with bad hearing.
b31cef No.14120065
>>14120046
>autism: the post.
ff323b No.14120075
>>14096048
>Game takes skill
>Far more likely to get a lesser review
>Game takes time/no skill
>Far more likely to get a greater review.
I'm with the "keep gaming fun instead of stressful" thing, but that's a wrong metric, fucking period
391604 No.14120092
>>14119032
The only good thing about TLoU is Ellie's character model.
ae5e12 No.14120130
>>14119842
>>14119940
>>14120065
>Gets BTFO by actual arguments and logic
>Resorts to ad-hom and insulting instead of simply reading
>Writes in all lowercase like an underage nigger
Do you come from cuckchan or perhaps Reddit? You may like the posting in there, it's very similar to yours in style and substance.
f275a5 No.14120137
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>14120065
You're really throwing the sincerity to have an actual discussion out of the window when someone actually bothers explaining his own points of view and the only thing you respond with is 'lol autism'. That's just being intellectually dishonest and nobody's going to give you any points for that.
The post you replied to doesn't even qualify as actual autism, I know because I often dish out replies taking up multiple posts and am writing some megapost for another subject in a text editor right now. The post you replied to might be considered long and autistic if you're used to cuckchan's 2000-character limit, but that's not how we do things here.
Back to combo variety, see this video. It doesn't entirely apply to TW101 as TD is another game (nor have I played TW101 because I don't have a Wii U, though I know a thing or two about Platinum games in general), but you should be able to see here why you'd want to use different kinds of combos.
1ac9cb No.14120174
TW101 wasn't a good game. In fact it's probably Kamiya's worst.
bf8329 No.14120196
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>14120137
Saur does have a few good videos on W101 as well.
258085 No.14121470
>>14119156
>what? so you basically switch weapons by drawing different shapes? anon… that's not unique and is no different from just a hotkey or keypad. and its not much different from just scrolling through them.
In addition to what >>14119226 says, it's worth noting that while drawing the weapons, time slows down heavily but does still progress, and you can get knocked out of doing it mid-draw. From what I've heard, the hardest difficulty mode removes the slow down, and forces you to draw in real-time, which would make the game ridiculously difficult from what I recall of it but I'm fucking terrible at drawing
>>14119351
>it sounds like a super easy game that had potential and depth but at the last second some retard made a stupid decision to casualize it for children.
It does have depth, it just doesn't require it to achieve a simple clear. Again, see Devil May Cry and Bayonetta and Metal Gear Revengeance. This is pretty much the formula for Platinum.
>that should never be the case. do you have any idea how shitty that is?
Agreed, in an ideal world that would never happen, the game would just be hard to begin with. I think it's their attempt to make something that can still be a tough and challenging video game while allowing the normalfags to get their feel good prize so that they keep buying it.
>>14119477
>they managed to make it eaven more cheating than quicksaving
Again, if your goal is only to beat the game, then yes. If you're trying to play the game right though, the continue system is about as useful as the Cyber Elves in the Rockman Zero games, aka not at all.
>>14119498
I still remember being annoyed at how Persona 2 dumbed down the game from 1… then 3 came along and made 2 look good.
>>14119536
>Encouraging strategic party formations based on weapon ranges of the different characters while making magic valuable because it's position agnostic is horrible game design
>Encouraging experimentation with fusions and balancing power with cost is horrible game design
Nigger what.
258085 No.14121641
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. >>14120196
I love this one in particular, short and to the point in terms of showing just how much control you have once you git gud
af01b8 No.14122712
>>14120174
And is still better than TLOU and any other current western game.
258085 No.14122798
>>14122712
To be fair, that's not exactly a high bar by any means.
af01b8 No.14123496
>>14122798
And?
the discussion is about a better game being put bellow a completely shitty one.
Even the worst of japanese games (even pachinko) nowadays are all better than the western ones simply by not pandering to marxism.
258085 No.14123517
>>14123496
You're preaching to the choir Anon, with a handful of exceptions the West has been dead to me for at least the past decade and a half.
af01b8 No.14123750
>>14123517
Good. Now make it become dead to those that still have hope for it.
That is the way to improve things: take away from the incompetent and give all to the who has the best offer. Nowadays, those would be the japanese.
1dcf8e No.14124668
>>14096551
One of the few times Women did something smart, but they did it for the wrong reasons. Hitler was quite attractive to German women at the time, he even held off marriage just to better maintain the effect.
71d1d2 No.14124744
>>14096365
>>14096555
>>14098036
>>14099200
>>14103576
>>14119032
>>14120174
t. Kotaku employees.
b60187 No.14124774
Everything else aside TLOU had the best TPS multiplayer gameplay since GoW 3
71d1d2 No.14124791
>>14124773
t. neoFAG rapefugee.
2f9862 No.14125214
>>14119186
>soyboy
Fuck off with this retarded insult already jfc there is notging wrong with soy and its climate change denying tier to say therw is fucking poltard…
2fc650 No.14125232
>>14124668
This is just more proof that women shouldn't be voting, this is probably also the reason why the tallest candidate has the highest chance of winning elections.
4ef316 No.14125283
I just leave that here.
jeff-vogel.blogspot com/2017/11/i-settle-all-video-game-arguments-part.html
4ef316 No.14125291
>>14118939
why are they coughing like motherfuckers? Are their liquids made of 50% menthol or have they smoked a pure Mary Jane doobie before breakfast?
a73edc No.14125409
>>14120092
>Ellie's character model
what good is their character model when their faces require a hefty trash bag?
I'd rather jerk off to fempyro tf2 porn than anything from TLoU.
d9ff29 No.14125440
>>14125214
Sure, there's nothing wrong with soy, if you don't mind lowered testosterone.
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/17416779
fbbfc3 No.14125885
>>14096063
>Melted the ice caps
>Raped and tortured former princess into sexual servitude
What gaems?
a6b4c8 No.14127598
>>14096621
Or I could not support any dev and let the industry die or not waste money on it.
12bdea No.14127649
>>14125232
Hitler was like 5'8, I am 3 inches taller than him. I agree though, fuck Women's Sufferage
c95d93 No.14127661
>>14125214
Why does calling soyboys what they are enrage them so much?
12bdea No.14127690
>>14125214
Climate change is a myth and you are way out of your fucking hugbox. Soy however is a totally different issue, and is an excellent source for foreign estrogen elements to be introduced to the male body. There are a huge number of reasons for why the average testosterone level has dropped so drastically.
af01b8 No.14128716
>>14125214
There is a thing wrong with soy: it produces failures such as you. Your total impotency is hilarious. Getting beaten by real Men AND women and still not getting any pussy, eh?
734f9b No.14128994
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play. Maybe not but I can (and will) blame companies for not taking a more firm stance on creativity and good design against these evil goobers
>>14103436
>Never forget
In our case it's also Never forgive as well
>>14103576
Dude fuck off, you had your chance to rip on platinum when Korra & TMNT were still (relatively) fresh, and unless you're telling me ps2 vidya from Clover aren't fun or just didn't like it I don't understand your point
>>14118939
>vaping
>in a fucking wedding
JUST
>>14119032
>last of us
>good
Try again darlin'
>>14120092
>TLoU is Ellie's character model.
Ah, you're one of THOSE people
>>14120137
>>14121641
>>14120196
Saurian is like literally one of the only people on jewtube I actually respect, dude clearly has a love for these games and has the know how to properly analyze these types of vidya.
3e8980 No.14133462
maybe they are punished because the market economy completely homogenizes the medium to make as much money as possible and not necessarily a quality product that we can enjoy.
but ots easier to blame minorities and women right?
258085 No.14133529
>>14133462
>but ots easier to blame minorities and women right?
What? No one here has done that though. Everyone knows the problem is normalfags.
c33f5a No.14133798
>>14097410
The movie industry isn't quite as bad because people don't listen to movie critics as much because movies are typically no more than 2 hours. Video games are a much larger time and typically monetary investment. By that same token it's easier to bullshit your way around a video game review because someone needs to invest a significant amount of time to call you out on the bullshit. So the incentive is greater in video games to make up shit for early review access and it's also easier to get away with it.
There have been instances where producers like Sony have been caught astroturfing and creating fake movie reviews however.
946beb No.14133834
>>14125214
>here is notging wrong with soy
>notging
Soy does long term damage to your brain.
ff69af No.14133839
>>14125214
>climate change is real
>soy is good
Why are you not banned?
258085 No.14133958
>>14133839
The same reason all the Monster Hunter World shills aren't - shitposting isn't a bannable offense.
f6884a No.14134019
>>14133839
>climate change isn't real
Why aren't you?
e52060 No.14134043
>>14127661
Why does naming the jew make them shrink back and hiss?
af01b8 No.14134070
>>14133462
Non-white minorities and women are shit that needs to be removed from any aspect of society. Everything normalfag also applies to them.
>>14133798
This is another reason to boycott (or at least pirate) any game that is presented as "good" by proven corrupt reviewers. Depending on WHO praise the game (at least western games), you can already know for sure that it is not worth any money.
>>14134019
You are the soyboy that believes in fake news. You are banned from a good life of success. Say hello to your impotent frustration.
c33f5a No.14134077
>>14133839
Because this isn't your little censorous political echochamber.
f6884a No.14134084
>>14134070
>You are the soyboy that believes in fake news
Ironic.
ff69af No.14134116
>>14134019
>WAAAAAAAAAAAA MUH CONSENSUS
Holy christ, go back to tumblr.
>>14134077
>oy vey the jewish paid shill moderators censor things therefore you are the ones who want things censored
>lol lies are totally true because i say so ha ha fact is a matter of opinion
You, too.
f6884a No.14134124
>>14134116
>WAAAAAAAAAAAA MUH CONSENSUS
<as he bitches about not being able to have a consensus
ff69af No.14134131
>>14134124
It makes sense that you would take away that strawman from what you (didn’t) read.
e98b29 No.14134135
Here's a better comparison.
97 is higher than Majora's Mask and A Link to the Past.
af01b8 No.14134199
>>14134084
Not really. And you still get beaten by Men whenever you try to confront someone. Also, you can't have anything because your weakness makes you a failed subhuman that is only taken advantage of, then discarded.
f6884a No.14134206
>>14134199
>doing the fucking tough guy act
>over the internet
You are a barrel of laughs you know that?
607939 No.14134238
>>14103576
>explorers of sky
>shit
YOU TAKE THAT BACK YOU DOUBLE NIGGER