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File: 317dd15ea46a141⋯.jpg (265.12 KB, 1080x1080, 1:1, DRqntzWU8AAGpNW[1].jpg)

64c1d3 No.14037244

>super sonic is free for the first month but will be paid dlc after

but for what fucking purpose? honestly not even worth waiting for a crack at this point

245e7c No.14037260

File: 178f0d7ff48cf9e⋯.gif (1.25 MB, 360x240, 3:2, Ikki's mom.gif)

>Paying to get a power up


5c805d No.14037263

>>14037244

Just like online in switch. Free until 2018, paid service after.


189230 No.14037265

>>14037260

more /ss/


78cbf2 No.14037284

So that when the next game launches with day 1 dlc which is essentially just a power up, all the shills will start up their historical revisionism of how people were okay with it before.


7e56a2 No.14037302

What?

So even if you collect 7 emeralds you wont become super sonic unless you pay?


aea2c0 No.14037319

>>14037265

seconding this. Make use of a shit thread.


2dac28 No.14037352

>>14037302

There are no chaos emeralds in sonic forces.


7e56a2 No.14037376

>>14037352

>sonic game

>no emeralds

>pay for super sonic

I don't think I have appropriate reaction image for this.


189230 No.14037415

File: d364394613ad279⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 425.89 KB, 1280x1780, 64:89, 2.jpg)

>>14037352

What does Rouge barter with Tails to fug with then?


3c450f No.14037464

File: 1f30a8f58be5bdf⋯.jpg (319.21 KB, 757x979, 757:979, protoman_by_rongs1234-d41p….jpg)

All the DLC I ever bought in my life amounted to this: $2 DLC to play as Proto Man in Mega Man 9.

That's all. I avoided paying for DLC nearly all my life & can't understand niggers that still pay for it.


8bbbd6 No.14038808

I'M THE TALLEST OF MOUNTAINS I AM THE ROUGHEST OF WAVES


6cd3d8 No.14038840

>>14038808

Infinite is just a worse version of Mephiles


195b2d No.14038850

>>14037415

>dick status

<MUH


89af11 No.14038870

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>tfw the mobile gacha tie-in title is a better game than Sonic Forces itself.


6eb11d No.14040101

Man… After Forces's disappointment all I want is a 3D Sonic game where I can free run everywhere.

I thought about using Little Planet's present as the HUB world where it's designed like a road map with platforming in between blocks, but then you use your platforming skills from overworld to go into the past and complete objectives to collect Timestone shards to "normalize" the rifts separating zones. Also the Chaos Emeralds are there to give you extra powers at the expense of rings like Chaos Control which slows down time. Sonic did this in SA2. More emeralds you collect, the more chaos powers you unlock until you get Super Sonic.

Also rework avatar customization to Sonic customization. Give Sonic the GAMER hat and the Sanic shirt and we'll talk.

Also no more wisps. Period. Just have elemental shields.


6ada96 No.14040191

>>14037244

I though hyper shadow was suppose to be chromish or something


fac630 No.14040200

>>14040191

those are modern and classic sonics, not shadow


ef3ba0 No.14040209

>Countless vidya companies that aren't shit have totally ceased to exist

>Thousands of series will never be continued in any form

>SEGA is still around to fuck up constantly to this very day

When will it just fucking die?


ecd19b No.14040255

File: 2678d6140e8c495⋯.jpg (20.55 KB, 174x234, 29:39, 1461115045606.jpg)

>Sabotage Mania with last-minute unannounced Denuvo and making it a prequel to this shit game

>Then reveal in Forces that most of Mania were just illusions and never really happened (RIP Hard-Boiled Heavies)

>Retcon Classic Sonic and the Classic Games to take place in a different dimension rather than in Sonic's past, making it clear once and for all that Modern Sonic was never good at any point

I'm kind of amazed how much Sonic Team went out of their way to screw over Taxman


ecd19b No.14040280

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14040255

Embed related about the "Mania was never real" part.


b367aa No.14040456

File: 728091dadc8783b⋯.jpg (92.67 KB, 640x365, 128:73, 1430023911126.jpg)

>>14040280

Holy fucking shit, this is why nobody likes nuSonic.


9ea8a2 No.14040550

Just when I think shitty nu-Sonic Team can't get more retarded, I get disappointed again.


6d4705 No.14040564

File: 7e7641960b7cc5e⋯.jpg (56.05 KB, 1213x1280, 1213:1280, pickle_nico.jpg)

>>14040255

At this point Sonic Team should be liquidated or continue to exist but stop making Sonic Games. Give Sonic to Taxman and either LakeFeperd or the Sonic Utopia team for the 3D stuff.

Has anyone played the new Fark demo?


9ea8a2 No.14040601

>>14037260

>>14037265

Motherxson is fucking weird and it can be hot, but the guy's literally just getting his dad's leftovers. What the fuck are you doing?


cf4586 No.14040655

File: 5fcc3ffeb481887⋯.jpg (56.87 KB, 400x351, 400:351, Lois Lane Hey kid wanna SS.jpg)

File: f6ae9fe16247a39⋯.png (867.04 KB, 2600x2000, 13:10, 5-Volt&9-Volt-ss-SK-EV.png)

File: 0b012cd64e1cb8b⋯.jpg (859.77 KB, 1381x2047, 1381:2047, wanna ss with your sis.jpg)

>>14037244

More like Sonic forces customers to bend over.

>>14037265

Sure why not.


ecd19b No.14040752

>>14038808

>>14038840

Has there been a villain with more wasted potential than Infinite?


ef3ba0 No.14040789

>>14040601

He's being a pleb that doesn't prefer the infinitely superior broxsis, greatest of all incestuous pairings.


77c080 No.14040805

>>14037244

Endowment effect, except done in a particularly faggy way. The intent is to let them get a taste and get comfy with something, then take it away. Impulse fags proceed to dump life's savings to get it back.


046c82 No.14040848

File: 423265ee0457260⋯.jpg (38.41 KB, 480x480, 1:1, 11383304_1461681524144490_….jpg)

>>14040789

>>14040601

>tfw ugly used up mother

>tfw dyke sister


3751a9 No.14040864

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

aea2c0 No.14040883

File: d7b29da6aaf3077⋯.png (290.92 KB, 691x576, 691:576, 18e86329040720341.png)

>>14040848

as cool as it sounds on paper (literally), the real life iteration is significantly less glamorous. The fact of the matter is that no mother will look anything like Ikki's mom or Iori Rinko, aight?


03e0c7 No.14041010

>>14040101

>dissappointment

it was blatantly obvious what to expect from the start.


38d165 No.14041019

>>14037260

You guys ever consider that she's doing this because she knows it will get her son out of bed?


fc875e No.14041114

>>14040789

No, third+ cousin is the best.


245e7c No.14041139

File: 54ada67a7b532fe⋯.gif (1016.07 KB, 500x375, 4:3, 54ada67a7b532feeaf4279f7c7….gif)

>>14041019

Yup. Which makes it cuter.


a71eb0 No.14041153

File: 6da59ecb4f1631e⋯.webm (1.09 MB, 320x240, 4:3, ねえ息子、ssやらないか.webm)

>>14041019

The English makes it sound dirtier when she says it's a trick she learned on TV and that she has ones to get Ikki to do more chores. The Japanese isn't that much cleaner, as his Mom says it's something she came up with and wrote as advice to the newspaper, "a magic trick to get kids out of bed, presto!"


245e7c No.14041158

>>14041153

>The English version made it sound dirtier

Must of been the Bizzaro dub


a71eb0 No.14041165

File: 8dffdad8bf70f34⋯.webm (887.53 KB, 540x360, 3:2, Hey son, wanna ss.webm)

>>14041158

Not intentionally, especially since they removed his Mom's wink and pinky thingie, but considering it's beyond mere getting in bed with her son and leaves it at that is all you need.


e18ab8 No.14041259

Ruin all of Sega's marketing to normalfags.

Make them loathe everything from the company.

Make every feature look like the worst thing ever, until they are ashamed of even talking about Sega.

That is the only way to cut the funding of those predatory practices.

The whales and normalfags will only stop paying for shit when made to be ashamed of their choices.


b367aa No.14041347

>>14041158

ADV's dubs could be silly and decent, too bad they were copyright-hungry retards.


32825b No.14041355

File: b893d07bf608dd4⋯.mp4 (4.5 MB, 544x360, 68:45, Medabot1.mp4)

File: b3266b1a0cda073⋯.mp4 (9.89 MB, 544x360, 68:45, medabotStomp3.mp4)

great anime btw


5c1037 No.14041387

File: 77fde187843c1d0⋯.gif (208.73 KB, 480x360, 4:3, Kill Myself.gif)

>tfw you will never be a cute shota again


0f4bd8 No.14041580

File: 2fa16638ea7d810⋯.swf (4.61 MB, date_night (update 8).swf)

File: 30ab00180d30d10⋯.swf (1.8 MB, update9.swf)

>>14037265

Lets see if this works.


879e3d No.14041650

File: 3e2a4ee4e8b2bbc⋯.png (194.93 KB, 487x407, 487:407, anime cute.png)

>>14041387

You can still be a trap if you're under 40!


879e3d No.14041657

>>14041580

The latter doesn't seem to be working!


eb6e2e No.14041782

File: 3a14fe0ddb2fde9⋯.png (588.77 KB, 2480x1669, 2480:1669, I'm_Retarded.png)

>>14040255

>Nuke the entirety of your entire series's canon of what could only be perceived as envy

>Recanon A brand new macguffin that could FINALLY be something new in your games than the always prevalent Emeralds

>Sabotaging your own product

>Manage to make a mediocre game when you already had all the hard work actually done (Forces is mostly Generation's engine and a lot of it can actually be well tweaked without breaking fucking everything)

>Waste opportunity to make Sonic Adventure stages with an ORIGINAL CHARACTER that spends most of the game tethered to sanic to the point it barely makes a difference

Despite How easy it would be to not fuck up

They manage to fuck up literally everything.


eb6e2e No.14041803

Also the whole classic series retcon literally doesn't work without nuking nearly every game in the series up until Forces


2c1e4a No.14041861

>>14041782

If they wanted to get really ballsy, they could have used the multiple dimension plot point to make a Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood stage and create more weapon types for the OC. I still stand by the thought that if they were given a year or two more to fully flesh out ideas, the game could have been something special.


9ea8a2 No.14041897

>>14040789

Still the best.

>>14041114

The actual fuck is this boringness? Only thing worse is motherxdaughter, which might as well be 2 way cuckshit.


b2ec83 No.14041914

>>14041114

Is it even considered incest at that point? Uncle Niece is only second to sisterwife+daughters harem.


18bcc9 No.14041918

File: 85fbe0bbef48fb2⋯.png (511.12 KB, 1067x800, 1067:800, 85fbe0bbef48fb2e99bb9f7ff1….png)

>release unfinished game

>sell finished parts when people lose interest

Marketing is the only thing keeping Sonic alive.


aea2c0 No.14041924

File: 5a01a9c9586114d⋯.mp4 (557.11 KB, 640x480, 4:3, makethepainstop.mp4)

>>14041387

>tfw you weren't even a cute shota


eb6e2e No.14041938

>>14041918

Actually, they were doing an okay job of not being completely fucking retarded until Forces.


eb6e2e No.14041942

>>14041938

Although technically, you might want to draw the line at Lost World on PC and iirc they tried to do some bullshit with antitamper.


9ea8a2 No.14041950

>>14041259

Don't worry. For once, even the normalfags are pissed and hearing none of it. You don't fucking try to make people pay for

Super Sonic

when it's always been a flashy rewarding unlockable to enjoy, even when it's just a boss with new different gameplay.

Absolute unanimous "Fuck off".


ecd19b No.14042003

File: 826886eac55eba6⋯.jpg (128.42 KB, 1200x642, 200:107, 826[1].jpg)

>>14041861

>Sonic Chronicles: The Dark Brotherhood

The game is Persona Non-Grata because of the Penders Lawsuit (and because it was made by filthy gaijins Bioware).

>>14041938

>>14041782

The worst part is, the problem with Forces wasn't that it was half-assed, it was undermanned in the worst way possible. The game had 3 (three) level designers, only one of which actually worked on Sonic before (and it was only on Lost World. Come to think of it, Lost World itself only had like 7 people on it right?

Really makes ya think.


9ea8a2 No.14042206

>>14042003

We have to get this shit out there and we have to get it met with nothing buy outrage.


933a5e No.14042239

File: 4ed6d02eac9471a⋯.jpg (39.62 KB, 640x480, 4:3, KunisBeamBoycott-640x480.jpg)


c7c564 No.14042260

File: bc0e0e23a55068d⋯.gif (15.44 KB, 200x200, 1:1, Hyper Sonic.gif)

File: 26ad3e876488924⋯.png (269.35 KB, 550x413, 550:413, sonic-is-unamused.png)

>>14040191

>Hyper Shadow

Why do so many people think this? It's Super Shadow, Why the would Shadow's Super form be called Hyper when Hyper Sonic already exists.

The only thing that ever called him Hyper Shadow was a players guide that was wrong. You need to go out of your way to be wrong about this.


78a4cc No.14042268

File: 5607eeeeef5f14e⋯.jpg (51.97 KB, 752x1063, 752:1063, lb__ultra_instinct_sonic_b….jpg)

>>14042260

What is this? An Ultra Instinct sonic?


946d37 No.14042274

Swiggity swooty where's the Rouge booty


0c0d0b No.14042283

I think sonic forces was pretty good for a $40 game. I found it a lot more enjoyable than Sonic Colors, which is what it was building off of. The last stretch had the story completely divebomb and take the rest of the game with it ("haha i'm going to suck sonic into a void dimension that is impossible to escape from" and then they escape in 3 seconds, or Dr. Eggman's big master plan they hyped up for the entire game was just "lol i'll drop a sun on everything including me.") The avatar is the best thing they've added to Sonic since the Chao Garden, and there is a lot of replayability. I really do not get how it was in development for so long just for us to find out it was made by Sonic Team's b-team and still feel like they rushed it out.


98edd5 No.14042284

File: c1d2295f435b9bc⋯.png (756.59 KB, 1119x837, 373:279, FireMario.png)

>>14037352

>no chaos emeralds

>paying for Super Sonic

So when is Nintendo going to charge people money to have Fire Mario as DLC?


d70aa3 No.14042858

File: d13aa3651f5c14d⋯.gif (788.55 KB, 444x272, 111:68, why_this_boner_of_mine.gif)

>>14037415

SOURCE!


db99d5 No.14042863

File: 75d0fc2eb14312f⋯.jpg (48.81 KB, 309x543, 103:181, e252d2962d2f67fcb7a9267329….jpg)


9f915b No.14042864

File: ace3b3529b640f5⋯.png (136.1 KB, 500x537, 500:537, mario amiibo.png)


d70aa3 No.14043013

File: c75add735a08097⋯.png (287.82 KB, 643x816, 643:816, ClipboardImage.png)

you can not make this shit up


9f915b No.14043028

File: 28efc9451cd30bf⋯.png (30.59 KB, 1004x327, 1004:327, 1.PNG)

File: 8fd1ced791213d9⋯.png (412.72 KB, 1014x822, 169:137, NuryRush.PNG)

>>14037244

>>14043013

>they used some deviantart artist logo instead of their own

Holy shit.


9f915b No.14043044

File: 456c7c60be6975b⋯.png (118.51 KB, 574x396, 287:198, this fandom.PNG)

Also comment of the year.


9f915b No.14043060

File: d03f8b05c9de207⋯.png (297.01 KB, 1014x790, 507:395, On the edge.PNG)

File: d6de847b4a4aa97⋯.jpg (275.12 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, DQ8d84sU8AA6ZRA.jpg)

File: 582ad28df25fcde⋯.jpg (120.47 KB, 786x678, 131:113, 9.jpg)

>their sountrack of vocal tracks of sonic forces is literally called "on the edge"


33dc1b No.14043078

>>14043013

Wait what's the difference between this and the official one?


1de568 No.14043080

>>14043078

His avatar is that star in a ring.


33dc1b No.14043083

>>14043080

Yeah buy other than that and a small difference in the bottom area, it's the same logo?


78bf4c No.14043089

File: fb13a8810e21588⋯.png (14.16 KB, 98x98, 1:1, ClipboardImage.png)

>>14043080

I can't blame them for not noticing, since that's something that appears in Sonic anyway.


47e31d No.14043090

File: 616ac2b48c5af63⋯.jpg (59.45 KB, 600x549, 200:183, Ow_the_edge.jpg)

>>14043060

This was no coincidence


1de568 No.14043091

>>14043083

The point is, Sega don't have a copy of their own logo available internally and use a fan recreation for promotional images instead. It's embarrassingly inept.


47e31d No.14043093

>>14043091

It probably wasn't done internally. It was likely handed to an outside source that does advertisements such as this. It's not uncommon to hire an outside company or a freelancer, and little mistakes like this happen a lot more than you'd believe


b367aa No.14043098

>>14043093

Not everyone is Crapcom for fuck's sake.


47e31d No.14043103

>>14043098

Who said anything about any other game publisher? This is done for all sorts of companies. There isn't always someone who does strictly this sort of thing around, because to keep them on the payroll is costly and makes no sense when they only do maybe one project every few months.


b367aa No.14043111

File: cc6fe3cd1397046⋯.jpg (71.85 KB, 438x490, 219:245, gam_okamiignwatermark2.jpg)

>>14043103

>Who said anything about any other game publisher?

Stop excusing retards you dipshit.


78bf4c No.14043114

>>14043093

I've handled things like this for companies before, managing websites. Basically, if you don't have a company's logo on hand, sometimes the best option is to google that company, and pick the highest res one with transparency, rather than email someone asking for it and wait for a response. Whoever's in charge of Sonic's marketing and/or social media presence likely made the same call, because it's usually the right one.


47e31d No.14043120

>>14043111

>excusing retards

So when did I do this? The misconception is that this was an internal job when it probably wasn't. Follow the post chain.

>>14043114

Thank you, finally someone who isn't so blind in their autism that they get it.


1de568 No.14043121

>>14043093

The bare minimum you should expect any contractors to receive would be the material they require to do their jobs. Either Sega didn't even e-mail them the logo for the very game they need to create an advert for, or they're hiring people who don't check their e-mails to use the stuff they're given and just half-ass it by taking whatever comes up on an image search instead.


2b2c9f No.14043160

File: 8656ea239533fcd⋯.jpg (126.96 KB, 1200x835, 240:167, 22.jpg)

>>14043126

You forgot the main important part.

Big red star doesn't have a line on top of it, and it can be easily identified even from a distance.


2b2c9f No.14043189

File: c8daf0398457c8e⋯.png (305.91 KB, 1200x1200, 1:1, DRqp8e4UMAA3U6x.png)

File: fa0a0bce3e48d37⋯.jpg (98.28 KB, 954x716, 477:358, DRqvPeiX0AACNip.jpg)

File: 022d84db5100ce2⋯.jpg (10.96 KB, 300x250, 6:5, DRrNiqWWkAEE1gw.jpg)

File: 1123a83560edd04⋯.jpg (76.28 KB, 1200x642, 200:107, DRrNjbJX0AMBHee.jpg)

File: 558f56c14c85a06⋯.jpg (95.89 KB, 1200x1018, 600:509, DRrpCIHUIAA2w59.jpg)

OCs from twatter


c4d6fe No.14043214

File: 8c9b4586e27b061⋯.jpg (33.82 KB, 580x360, 29:18, christine.jpg)

>>14041650

>3D traps

>cute


5a2207 No.14043219

>>14037244

>Paying to play as a staple of nearly every Sonic game

Are you fucking kidding me? This game is worse than I thought


830e5b No.14043227

File: ef89ed0f0d8acf2⋯.jpg (29.03 KB, 500x571, 500:571, Best Girl.jpg)

>>14041650

only 2D traps are cute and not gay.


df9f3d No.14043536

This is actually the best way to do dlc, like snk with kof14 where you could download certain dlc shit for free over the weekend and keep it, after which it becomes a thing to pay for,


eb6e2e No.14043566

>>14043536

No, the best way to do DLC is to significantly add features stages and items in a size that would be parable to the content in the package ratioed to the content in the game.

Like say if SUPER SONIC was already in the game, and they had a small subcampaign, in say, the Arabian nights dimension to Get Darkspine Sanic

Or fuck, just make a Sanic transformation that you unlock from a set of levels and challenges.

Micro DLC is literally the worst shit.


6a4a2a No.14043640

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

This isn't as bad as Battlefront 2 but it's just disappointing and a step back. Maybe if it had a final story combined with the Super Sonic DLC it wouldn't be bad, but it's seriously a step back from unlocking with red rings. From this and Sega's Denuvo shit with Mania, I'm all in favor of someone buying the Sonic IP. No, not Nintendo, they'll definetly do the same DLC shit and I bet most of the games are going to be like Lost World where it may be polished but too safe and bland. Or at least a huge makeover and yes let the Mania team handle the IP from now. Seriously this game might as well be Sonic Forces fans to fix it, as the only thing that makes interested in this game is the mod possibilities, specifically the avatar character mods a la Xenoverse. Damn shame, I thought the Boost games were fun and would've liked to have one on the go with the Switch, but I'm guessing until Switch modding becomes a thing, PC is the only good version.


eb6e2e No.14043647

>>14043640

Y'know here's a thought, sega's recycling Generation's engine anyway.

Why not get in touch with the generations modding community, or get in touch with some of the people that worked in the ancient Adventure/2 modders.


c7c564 No.14043719

>>14043647

I'm pretty sure they went on record saying that Forces uses the Hedgehog 2 engine, I think it's the first game to use it.


db99d5 No.14043725

File: 42242e2c54f69be⋯.jpg (107.97 KB, 448x847, 64:121, 422.jpg)

>>14043227

you're half right anyways


9ea8a2 No.14043735

>>14043640

Are there mods being made for lives, drifting, longer stages and better Classic gameplay?


9ea8a2 No.14043756

>>14043719

I fucking hate how this shit is so bad this might be the end of boost entirely from the reception, general shittiness and further fuckups like DLC, which Aaron Webber even had to respond to fans about just a day later on fucking Christmas.

You can see there was a degree of polishing with the control and now being able to clever rocket across entire portions of the stage by taking different paths and blasting off a ledge. But a bunch of fucking newfags that don't know anything were tasked with a precious anniversary project that was supposed to be a return to form. How the fuck can there be retards this bad in Japan and even getting paid, let alone getting management positions?


d70aa3 No.14044904

File: cbbef139649041b⋯.png (490.37 KB, 880x912, 55:57, i_came_in_like_a_pop_cultu….png)

to this day, I wonder what happen to eggman.


4b4634 No.14045253

File: 245bd4de603d64f⋯.jpg (298.93 KB, 748x426, 374:213, fighting_the_gays.jpg)


d70aa3 No.14045651

File: 8b52a3a607d8719⋯.gif (251.98 KB, 372x484, 93:121, snk_ghost_hd_attempt_anima….gif)


88783a No.14046372

>>14040280

>Hardboiled Heavies getting the emeralds causes a color inversion effect

>Infinite's VR power causes everything to turn red

>This is supposed to be clear evidence that Sonic Mania never happened

ok then. Not trying to defend the game, but this sounds like a shitty internet theory, not an actual statement by Sega.


383ad2 No.14046481

File: b0175d2d5143d2d⋯.png (51.23 KB, 851x563, 851:563, mantits.png)


9ea8a2 No.14046488

>>14046481

Why does this shit exist.


d70aa3 No.14046515

File: 8401d391c3f8ff8⋯.png (587.82 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, you_know_what_they_say_by_….png)

>>14046488

internet, just the internet


ecd19b No.14046748

>>14046372

If the Ruby only has the power to make you hallucinate something happening rather than actually do anything magical, that means Mania's zones never existed (since nearly every transition cutscene is the Ruby activating and "teleporting" you) and the Heavies weren't actually transformed, they were just normal Eggrobos under an illusion.


88783a No.14046834

>>14046748

>If the Ruby only has the power to make you hallucinate something

Considering the Ruby can create pocket dimensions and transport people across them (Egg Reverie Zone, Null Space, transporting Sonic from Mania into Forces) it would be incorrect to say the Ruby only creates illusions. I can see how Sega could use it to nullify a lot of stuff in Mania, but until it is actually confirmed I'm skeptical.


d70aa3 No.14046851

File: 78e5bebc7bc1482⋯.png (226.12 KB, 1112x498, 556:249, tumblr_ozirsqKFsK1uwb389o9….png)

File: 245bbae35ac0732⋯.png (493.43 KB, 1280x722, 640:361, tumblr_ozirsqKFsK1uwb389o8….png)

File: 41d4bdbeaf59c3b⋯.png (574.11 KB, 1280x663, 1280:663, tumblr_ozirsqKFsK1uwb389o7….png)

File: c3d476f6bb0de61⋯.png (462.72 KB, 1280x800, 8:5, tumblr_ozirsqKFsK1uwb389o6….png)

>>14046748

>>14046834

If you think of it that way, the dimension that sonic mania resides is just tails imagination. sonic team was so pissed that they made the whole game non-canon à la sonic 06


d70aa3 No.14046881

>>14046851

this guy said it best

>>14046780


88783a No.14046884

>>14046851

>sonic team was so pissed that they made the whole game non-canon à la sonic 06

Then why the fuck was Silver there?


f10f8d No.14046922

>>14046884

He was reintroduced in those Rivals games for the PSP that no one bought.


3af863 No.14046931

>>14040280

>Phantom Ruby was fake

THE CANON I'VE LOST

THE GAMEPLAY I'VE LOST

IT WONT STOP HURTING


88783a No.14046940

>>14046931

>THE GAMEPLAY I'VE LOST

That makes no sense.


d70aa3 No.14046955

>>14046940

<THE GAMEPLAY I'VE TOSS

better?


88783a No.14046967

>>14046955

Sorry I missed the joke before


fb6da5 No.14047691

>>14040280

>Tails says the Phantom Ruby hijacks your mind to make you see and feel things that aren't real

>The Phantom Ruby warps Sonic from Sonic Mania's dimension to the Sonic Forces dimension

These can only both be true if:

<a. Tails is full of shit

<b. Sonic Mania's Phantom Ruby and Sonic Forces' Phantom Ruby are different and do different things

<c. The entirety of Sonic Mania's dimension is an illusion created by the Phantom Ruby in Sonic Forces

<d. The entirety of Sonic Forces' dimension is an illusion created by the Phantom Ruby in Sonic Mania

D is my favorite fuck this plot


fb6da5 No.14048627

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>14047691

Note that A is officially confirmed ingame because Tails says "So this is where Eggman built Infinite" in Final Judgement (shit level name), but the Shadow story says Infinite is just a guy and no one cared who he was until he put on the mask.


0c0d0b No.14048838

>>14043647

>Recycling Generation's engine

Generation was made on Hedgehog Engine, which was recycled from Unleashed. Forces is on Hedgehog Engine 2, which is really just more modifications on the original Hedgehog Engine and cleaning out old stuff they don't need.


07800d No.14049494

File: 175b8df5e977a19⋯.png (20.75 KB, 100x212, 25:53, 100px-Monita.png)

>>14047691

Or Alternatively there's option E

It's inconsistent because the plot was rushed to spite a party, and they nixed story consistency for attacking value.


ecd19b No.14050137

>>14047691

I'd love for it to be D, but let's face it it's probably gonna be C. After all, Classic Sonic does cease to exist after the Ruby is destroyed.


5ac4db No.14050213

>>14048627

Considering that the entire character is a living meme, I'd lean towards the latter.


9ea8a2 No.14050346

>>14047691

I reject this pathetic asshurt retcon retardation entirely.

The real Sonic visibly is shown in a nostalgic callback to the beginning of Sonic 3 before any reality warping shit happens and the new stages are entered like any other area. Fuck those pathetic retarded asshurt hacks just like trying to retroactively ruin Majora's Mask when we all fucking know the creator intended it to be the real deal when he directed it.


9ea8a2 No.14053622

Bring on the wincest while we rip into nu-Sonic Team's retarded shit more.


5e44fa No.14053630

>>14047691

>Phantom Ruby

>see and feel things that aren't real

>Phantom Pain

>feel a limb that's supposed to be there, but it isn't

>Infinite is a mercenary gone nuclear, lacks an eye (at least on his mask)

>Infinite carries his phantoms into battle

Like pottery.


d9eae0 No.14053638

File: fcfb94845b3abeb⋯.png (515.39 KB, 698x786, 349:393, (((Mila Kunis))).png)


fc875e No.14053664

>>14041914

It is, but it has very few negative consequences compared to other forms of incest. In fact, it might be genetically beneficial in many ways compared to regular intercourse.


d9eae0 No.14053727

File: c33ebc9805b071e⋯.jpg (84.27 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, No don't do it! It's not g….jpg)

>>14046748

>DEFENDING STORY

>IN VIDEO GAMES

no


07800d No.14053788

>>14047691

Incidentally, didn't the phantom Ruby have a different name from the start?


5e44fa No.14053846

>>14053630

But wait, there's more:

>Infinite was originally called Zero

>Zero = Cipher

>he led a squad of jackals

>Liquid: "In the Middle East, we don't hunt foxes - we hunt jackals"

>Both Infinite and the player character lost their comrades and are all for revenge

>In one of the first missions you rescue Sonic, who's been tortured for months

>In the first mission of MGSV you rescue Miller, who's been tortured for days

>"I will teach you fear, then pain, and then… well, at least the fear and pain will end."

>The Fear, The Pain and The End

>both Sonic Forces and MGSV push "war is hell"

I'm clearly thinking way too hard about this, but that's just how my autism is.


ecd19b No.14055137

>>14053846

Then who's the Base Goblin? Tails?


b301c3 No.14055500

File: 94056e3f568f88b⋯.png (290.63 KB, 480x1119, 160:373, tumblr_owgdihGwqV1sin8mso4….png)

File: 0115a82cada1343⋯.png (228.73 KB, 480x1133, 480:1133, tumblr_owgdihGwqV1sin8mso5….png)

File: 35885e5cca6f0e6⋯.png (315.5 KB, 480x1765, 96:353, tumblr_owgdihGwqV1sin8mso6….png)

File: e0af5444134043c⋯.png (387.58 KB, 480x1882, 240:941, tumblr_owgdihGwqV1sin8mso7….png)

>>14055137

You're player character


a357ca No.14055531

>>14055500

No shit. You're the player character in every game.


d9eae0 No.14055552

File: c931fa80f3d8e99⋯.jpg (95.15 KB, 560x503, 560:503, 1514420175.jpg)

>>14053846

wow that is some grade-A 100% pure Colombian autism ladies and gentlemen disco shit disco shit.


c7c564 No.14055600

File: d944ce1a4ae9a5d⋯.webm (11.97 MB, 1280x720, 16:9, obligitory_longer.webm)

File: 80e069c5e37a36f⋯.gif (581.79 KB, 1024x640, 8:5, Vanilla.gif)


b301c3 No.14055623

File: e696e53b88a8989⋯.png (4.24 KB, 116x112, 29:28, what_the_hell_i_did_just_r….png)

>>14055531

You're custom character/avatar


458e9e No.14055917

>>14040655

>second pic

>Trying to get a canon nintendrone to play a PS4 game


4cdb34 No.14057161

File: eee6085e306198a⋯.png (147.04 KB, 325x388, 325:388, lll.png)

>>14055552

>>14055137

In fact, I've just dug out a lot of similar shit from the Adventure-era games, I'll compile a list a bit later.


7043b2 No.14057198

File: aa28c1218c767bd⋯.jpg (42.23 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Chaos.jpg)


7043b2 No.14057209

File: 06f9e04e68ed75a⋯.png (1.04 MB, 1366x768, 683:384, zavok.png)

VOLGIN


7043b2 No.14057221

File: b333546862f0083⋯.png (899.34 KB, 1873x2511, 1873:2511, shadow-the-hedgehog-5.png)

RAIDEN


7043b2 No.14057224

File: 4138697175e8bcd⋯.png (493.17 KB, 371x513, 371:513, metal.png)

And of course METAL gear


4cdb34 No.14057248

>>14057221

Shadow may actually be Liquid, at least, in SA2:

>Sonic's counterpart

>inferiority complex

>artificially born

>his whining about that he's the ultimate similar to Liquid's whining about genes

>Liquid: "I'm you - I'm your shadow"

also

>a Hind D in the beginning of SA2

Since ShTH, he becomes Solid:

>revelation that he's made from his dad's genes

>Sonic literally calls Black Doom "Big Boss"

>in Sonic 06, Shadow infiltrates not-Shadow Moses, avoiding searchlights and adopting a raspy voice and having a radio

>in Sonic Rivals, a skin similar to a Sneaking Suit is available

More later.


fb6da5 No.14057250

File: f549477cc88a03f⋯.png (267.26 KB, 640x480, 4:3, Misc_Boss_Zero.png)

>>14053846

>Infinite was originally called Zero


4cdb34 No.14057254

>>14057250

Mind you, it came out way earlier before Snake Eater.


c7c564 No.14057260

File: a95adc4d4455426⋯.png (152.29 KB, 1116x716, 279:179, metal_gear_shadow_by_ultim….png)

>>14057221

I would actually equate Silver more to Raiden, he would just need to be come an edge lord in his own solo game

>>14057248

and yeah Shadow was artificially created as a weapon so he would be a Snake.


4cdb34 No.14057275

>>14057260

Silver's voice actor was even replaced by Quinton Flynn. This shit writes itself.


ee502e No.14057291

File: c175e485b812886⋯.jpg (650.63 KB, 1152x647, 1152:647, deviantautists.jpg)

>>14057198

SNAAAAAAAAAAKE


c955ac No.14057369

>>14046515

Now neither of them will be virgins!

>>14057329

He's not. It's been ages, but I remember there being some sexual tension (or whatever you'd call it for someone that young) with one of the girls on the show. One of the funniest moments I remember was in the finale of the first season when she leans in real slow and you think she's going to kiss him and then she fucking headbutts him instead "for good luck"


7043b2 No.14057374

File: feab06c8a8e7643⋯.jpg (298.53 KB, 1280x905, 256:181, dr gero.jpg)

File: 7d14d38bf57553d⋯.png (699.24 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, Ocelot MGS4.png)

File: da182249768a4b0⋯.png (249.49 KB, 578x406, 289:203, eggman.png)

I am getting into weird territory here with your autism. I only now realized Ocelot looks too much like Dr. Gero.


7043b2 No.14057398

File: 32bb9a9d0832be2⋯.png (1.52 MB, 1416x943, 1416:943, ocelot creates infinite 1.PNG)

File: ae871f07ce7b1e8⋯.png (1.72 MB, 1425x954, 475:318, ocelot creates infinite 2.PNG)

File: 80bfa8a85d12bbb⋯.png (931.77 KB, 1426x941, 1426:941, ocelot.PNG)

File: 04984f56141815f⋯.png (812.07 KB, 1425x925, 57:37, ocelot 2.PNG)


4cdb34 No.14057406

File: 13011bba098d761⋯.jpg (136.9 KB, 674x651, 674:651, 123123.jpg)


2e538e No.14058600

>>14048627

>>14050213

It's both. He was "notimportant", Shadow kicked his ass, then he decided to be a test subject for Eggman as a conduit for the phantom ruby, so eggman re-built him.

then eggman ripped him apart when he failed to stop sonic during the final fight and took the phantom ruby for himself


c7c564 No.14058826

File: b4f241d93ed5db8⋯.webm (4.75 MB, 640x360, 16:9, MGR codex calls.webm)

>>14057275

>Silver's voice actor was even replaced by Quinton Flynn

I forgot about that.


b043d8 No.14059839

>>14053638

Tell me, does everyone with green eyes have a higher chance of being Jewish than those who aren't?


5cd80b No.14059851

>>14059839

No, there are brown eyes for that. And i am pretty sure there are a lot of blue eyed ashkenazis.


b367aa No.14059865

>>14059851

Jews are gene stealers.


8bbbd6 No.14059964

>>14040255

>>14041803

Tails said Eggman rebuilt the Death Egg, meaning it had been built before. The only time the Death Egg was ever built previously was in the classic trilogy, and when it was called back through a time portal in Generations. Forces also has Green Hill, Chemical Plant and Death Egg. The parallel dimension retcon makes no sense even within Forces. The only way it can make sense as another dimension is if time runs slower in that dimension.


f10f8d No.14060182

>>14057374

Chikao Ohtsuka was the seiyuu for Eggman, old Big Boss in MGS4, and Taopaipai in Dragonball, coincidentally. Along with a shitload of other voices like Xehanort and Lupin III's Goemon.


9ea8a2 No.14060235

>nu-Sonic Team pathetically possibly tried to ripoff Metal Gear and like everything else were too retarded to know fucking shit people liked about it, let alone how to emulate it

I believe. I can't shit on these retards enough now.


905474 No.14060419

>>14043640

>I'm all in favor of someone buying the Sonic IP

I'd love to see a cuhraze sonic made by platinum games.


286d5a No.14060570

>>14041580

Anon, enabling your mother's decision to NTR your father is unforgivable.


6d4705 No.14070490

>>14043640

>I'm all in favor of someone buying the Sonic IP.

Nah fuck that, just give it to a new team.


c7c564 No.14070595

>>14070490

Yakuza team Sonic beat em up when?


6d4705 No.14070804

>>14070595

With Knuckles?


e18ab8 No.14070937

>>14070804

With denuvo.

And you must pay a DLC to enable spin dash.


ecd19b No.14072407

>>14058826

>>14057275

Shit, I thought Silver was voiced by Flynn as early as 06.


f67143 No.14080810

>>14059964

>The only time the Death Egg was ever built previously was in the classic trilogy, and when it was called back through a time portal in Generations

<he doesn't know about the Death Egg II in Sonic the Fighters

<he doesn't know about the Death Egg in Sonic Battle

<he doesn't know about the other Death Egg II in Sonic 4 Episode 2 because they forgot about Sonic the Fighters


f1850a No.14080982

>>14042283

For the amount of time and gameplay and level length I got, $40 is not worth it at all


9485ef No.14081006

>>14080810

>Death Egg II

There had to be a Death Egg I, you know.


f67143 No.14081056

>>14081006

It could be the Death Egg from Sonic Drift 2


26d388 No.14084986


d428e0 No.14085077

File: 82f04d39fa65f0d⋯.jpg (22.31 KB, 277x384, 277:384, 82f04d39fa65f0dc1d8a88928e….jpg)

>tfw just wanted another 3D sonic game with boost gameplay like Unleashed/Colors/Generations but without the cringy ass writing (fuck I'll even take SA1 or SA2 writing over this shit)

>instead we get more Lost Word tripe that actually makes Lost World look even less shitty in comparison

>they actually went and tried to top Sonic 06 in terms of shittiness by retconning the literally only good sonic game they made since forever

Sonic Team is just asking to be Heat Attacked with a baseball bat Goro-style. How fucking incompetent do you have to be to not have capitalized on this like they did with Mania? I can't fucking imagine it's that difficult to get into contact with Dario and ask the unleashed project guys if they wanted to help make forces. Maybe then it wouldn't be nowhere as shit.

>>14043227

>being a trapfag blinded by this weak ass advocacy

go back to kikebook, stay there and/or kys pls

>>14070595

Omega would be right at home methinks.


2414c1 No.14085137

File: c8d9c1a581ec699⋯.png (12.62 KB, 240x200, 6:5, zahcatto.png)

>>14057224

wait wouldn't that be venom snake?


c4d6fe No.14085149

>>14059839

Pretty sure blue eyes is more common among kikes than green eyes but most of them have brown eyes of course.


7247b8 No.14085184

File: 220034d133db95d⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 871.06 KB, 1582x2029, 1582:2029, d02ff8deef5394b0f0967d2697….png)

File: 3e97f559c5b3ac8⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 1.92 MB, 2864x2348, 716:587, e5a791154f5e7620317ccac570….png)

File: 769d38c1a17ca99⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 302.98 KB, 1200x1187, 1200:1187, f19783a5580efcef75d47b862….jpeg)

File: 0e774261f84c9ff⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 255.2 KB, 850x1212, 425:606, sample_01f475e11cf36cbbc79….jpg)

File: fea2358cb91dd62⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 143.54 KB, 850x811, 850:811, sample_7a668fe238715223a70….jpg)

>>14037265

There needs to be more hyper /ss/. Unfortunately, only Eigaka seems to really draw this kind of thing.

>>14037352

Ooooh, I get it. The Chaos Emeralds are supposed to be the shekels you give to SEGA in order to help them create more Sonic games and keep Sonic strong. Bravo, SEGA!


dc47c6 No.14085225

File: bfd525985c0420b⋯.gif (820 KB, 357x256, 357:256, smugdata.gif)

>>14085184

>saving samples


f78b85 No.14086410


aea2c0 No.14086422

File: deec3f39efa662c⋯.png (214.52 KB, 578x390, 289:195, a47ec441820b20d31b3bd9bd4f….png)

>>14085184

>hyper /ss/


feaa19 No.14086432


2e031e No.14087677

>>14040255

>>Then reveal in Forces that most of Mania were just illusions and never really happened (RIP Hard-Boiled Heavies)

It was made clear in Mania, at least if you read its manual (which should have at least come in the download with the game, I admit) that the Phantom Ruby does exactly what its name implies, it creates phantoms, fake versions of things. The Hard-Boiled heavies are still real, as they existed before they got to the Phantom Ruby.

>>Retcon Classic Sonic and the Classic Games to take place in a different dimension rather than in Sonic's past, making it clear once and for all that Modern Sonic was never good at any point

Sonic rips off Dragon Ball Z. Classic Sonic is from an "alternate dimension" the same way Trunks is. By going back in time you don't change the time you came from, you just create an alternate timeline. Classic Sonic is from an alt timeline, splitting at the point where he first shows up in Generations. They just called it alternate dimension instead of alternate timeline because they're retarded, but it's pretty much the same thing.

Modern Sonic still had the old games in his past, as they are heavily referenced in Adventure, which nobody would claim is Classic Sonic. If anything, Classic Sonic doesn't actually have the classic games in his timeline, though given Mania, I'm pretty sure we're supposed to infer that all the classic games did happen in his timeline, plus the Classic Sonic stages from Generations, plus Mania. The main difference between he and Modern Sonic is that Modern Sonic never experienced the Classic Sonic stages from Generations or Forces, and Mania never happened for him.

Now the problem with that is that how did the Phantom Ruby get from Classic Sonic's timeline to Modern Sonic's? Classic Eggman isn't referenced anywhere in Forces, and it's made to seem like Modern Eggman is responsible for it. Did he find it after it got warped to his timeline with Classic Sonic at the end of Mania? They clearly didn't think about it as hard as we are, because despite lots of references to older stories, this is clearly written by people who didn't get the old ones. It's the same as all the games since Colors, only with forced references and edginess, because they figured that's what the old 3D games were like. But they were just simple anime knockoffs, while this is more like a bad Deviantart fanfiction comic.

Also where does Silver come from in Forces? Is it '06 Silver summoned by the Phantom Ruby fucking with spacetime? Did Rivals Silver come back in time again? Since no explanation whatsoever is given, is it perhaps that he's not even from the future? Has enough time passed since '06 that Silver has now been born and this is essentially Kid Silver?

>>14080810

>he doesn't know about the other Death Egg II in Sonic 4 Episode 2 because they forgot about Sonic the Fighters

The Death Egg II isn't destroyed at the end of Sonic 4, it's just left without a power source. The Death Egg II from Fighters can be the same one but fixed and expanded upon. Sonic 4 is a prequel to Fighters.


2f4a16 No.14087711

>>14085184

>hyper /ss/

That completely misses the point of /ss/ and shota in general.


2e031e No.14087725

>>14080982

It takes quite a while to 100% the game. There's an okay amount to do in each level. It doesn't have the huge amount of content as Adventure 2 or Unleashed, but it's on par with pretty much every other Sonic game. Probably more than Generations.


dd2546 No.14087745

>>14043214

>what you posted

>a trap

By definition, to be a trap it is required to be passable as a girl.


f7fc8b No.14087753

>>14037244

I clicked on this thread without reading. I was hoping for ssj and got furries…


aa681a No.14089324

>>14085184

P. good, but I don't think this is what "hyper" means, I always thought it meant that expansion rubbish where the tits go building size.


feaa19 No.14089325

>>14087711

it does not, actually


aa681a No.14089388

File: decee42596108c9⋯.gif (119.54 KB, 1200x630, 40:21, DRqsbANUEAAKlrM.gif)

>>14043078

Animated .gif for the visually impaired. The whole thing is different.


2fd027 No.14099362

>>14087677

>The Hard-Boiled heavies are still real, as they existed before they got to the Phantom Ruby.

Yeah, as run-of-the-mill Eggrobos. They might still exist, but anything unique about them was fake.


73f362 No.14099923

>>14087677

Now that manual stuff is all well and good but, you neglect to notice the fact that Mania has been in the works since like ~2013 considering leftovers that were in Sonic 2 on mobile before patches

Not to mention sega could have and probably started at the very least a cross over "bible" of continuity that whitehead would have had to subject himself to for the crossover. As early as 2 years before Forces came out.

While things could be excused by "it was all a dream" the plot element that's lazy writing and reeks of being rewritten last minute.


4b0333 No.14100272

File: 254e8e220e739ce⋯.pdf (3.99 MB, SM_PC_DIGITAL_MANUAL_UK_V1….pdf)

>>14087677

>It was made clear in Mania, at least if you read its manual (which should have at least come in the download with the game, I admit) that the Phantom Ruby does exactly what its name implies, it creates phantoms, fake versions of things

No it doesn't

>Discovering a sudden dimensional breach in the atmosphere, evil genius Dr. Eggman detected a unique wave signature emanating from Angel Island. Realising that it could be a source of unspeakable power, he immediately dispatched his elite robot minions-the Hard Boiled Heavies (HBH) to retrieve it.

>Meanwhile, Sonic and Tails were also tracking the signal but arrived a little late to the party-the HBH were already there, excavating a mysterious gemstone out of the ground. As they did so, space time suddenly warped around them, catapulting them all to the Green Hill Zone.

>As the HBH rush to deliver the gemstone to Dr. Eggman, it's up to Sonic, Tails & Knuckles to stop them.

>Don't let the Phantom Ruby get into the wrong hands!

That's all about the Phantom Ruby except in the HBH section where it says

>Loyal to his orders, the Heavies successfully retrieved the mysterious gemstone, but its powers seem to have loosened a few of their screws.


8c6a1e No.14100390

>>14087753

>j

JAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJAJA

>>14099976

Hopefully


dceb10 No.14100423

>>14100390

>He doesn't instinctively call it SSJ from all the DBZ fansites in the 90s


cc9536 No.14100435

File: 5d22847391e661a⋯.png (526.79 KB, 768x768, 1:1, this is not a quiet life.png)

>>14099976

>amerimutt

inb4 ban


f84102 No.14100440

>>14100435

Why do you get banned for muttposting? It's not like cakejew's white or anything.


374d38 No.14100511

File: 931982477a92e43⋯.jpg (12.87 KB, 480x360, 4:3, 931982477a92e43d6751bc7a00….jpg)

>>14100440

Muttposting gets reported quickly and repeatedly. Mark's pretty sensitive to waves of butthurt reports.


5e1476 No.14101543

>>14099362

They seemed to be the ones controlling the Phantom Ruby, so while their physical forms might be different, it was their personalities that created those forms.

>>14099923

Doing all that work you said would imply that Sega, Sonic Team, or the people making Mania gave a flying fuck about story. Clearly, nobody involved did.

>>14100272

Yeah I don't know why I referenced the manual. I meant in the fight with the magician robot, where you fight Fang, Bean, and Bark, and they're clearly fake versions.

Fuck it. I'm not gonna sit here and defend the story. However, I am willing to accept that it warps space and time and creates illusions, because we see it do both those things, and both of those things are essential to the story. It warps space and time to create illusions. The illusions can still touch you so they're real in that sense. They're just not regular reality.


8fbe6e No.14102151

>>14100435

Didn't know it was a bannable offense sorry, I just wanted to know if the >>>/hyper/ admin was still around.


9a323c No.14105491

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I hope the sonic series crash and burn


6c7d21 No.14105673

>>14101543

>I meant in the fight with the magician robot, where you fight Fang, Bean, and Bark, and they're clearly fake versions.

Come on, dude. No one interpreted that as specifically the ruby's power and not just the magician's power. The magician doesn't even have the ruby. You might as well have said the ruby has ninja powers, because the ninja heavy used a katana and threw shurikens.


79b637 No.14106540

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>>14040255

>Everything Mania related are illusions because the Phantom Ruby gives hallucinations to its victims.

I thought the Phantom Ruby worked like that device from the Bubsy cartoon, where whatever you think up becomes real. Otherwise I think its just translation errors.


6bca5f No.14106554

>>14100440

That's exactly why


6c7d21 No.14106572

>>14106540

It has to be illusionary. Otherwise, the giant sun that Infinite conjured up would have been just as harmful to Eggman as it would have been to all the heroes. Plus, the whole mechanic of Infinite's boss fights is that touching his red cubes temporarily makes the arena more dangerous, which only makes sense if touching the cubes was making Sonic/Buddy hallucinate them.




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