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3026a6 No.13998177
Sega rejected "Jet Set Radio Evolution" by Dinosaur Games
>“[The pitch] was for a new game. I have an idea for the combat in my head that I think would work perfectly for a game where you’re in constant motion.”
>“We never received any detailed information [from Sega] as to why they said no.”
>“Sony loved it.” (via)
>“To be honest, I really don’t care if my studio ever gets to make this. I just want SOMEONE, ANYONE, to make a new Jet Set Radio.”
>We could have gotten a new JSR but SEGA didn't want to
520d10 No.13998216
>Dinosaur games
>Who bitch this is
>Only thing I find is something that has only VR "experiences" to boast
I don't think I'm ready to blame Sega for this one.
aeb6a6 No.13998257
>>13998177
The animations are pretty bad and the lighting looks like a Unity game. Maybe SEGA has other plans for Jet Set already.
c43208 No.13998261
Speaking of jet set what did that one kickstarter title ever amount to? Hover of Gamers or something?
d1bb0d No.13998306
>>13998257
it's just a proof of concept
ca3e9e No.13998312
Panty technology confirmed.
a472e9 No.13998442
Because sequels made 10+ years after the original suck.
No exceptions.
Sega not wanting to rape one of their now dead franchises is a good thing.
46bb60 No.13998474
4b60b7 No.13998475
Maybe when you approach SEGA with a FUCKING COMBAT SYSTEM for Jet set radio you completely missed the point of the game.
4b60b7 No.13998482
>>13998177
This video is terrible. It has no sense of motion, no sense of movement. It doesn't have the same style or anything. They just took the music and then thought that was what made it stand out.
Why the fuck would you even consider using this as proof of concept when it completely lacks any sort of style or momentum the originals have?
7668c2 No.13998674
>we will never get a new jet set game
>the only fan game we'll ever get is fucking hover
58ee37 No.13998677
>>13998216
>>13998177
yeah, sega made the right choice. Would rather see qualified or an internal team work on a new JSR.
c43208 No.13998735
>>13998674
Yes, how is hover?
7668c2 No.13998742
>>13998735
Confusing level design, artificially difficult gameplay and a less engaging soundtrack.
It's everything you'd expect it to be.
a1336f No.13998744
>I have an idea for the combat in my head
>combat
sega you did good.for once.
859558 No.13998755
We need Jet Set Radio Watchdogs to be honest.
e1a7bc No.13999108
>>13998742
Hover is fun when you're at endgame with everything maxed out. I doubt anyone would give hours of their time grinding chips trading them to hope having better shit then scramble all over the fucking map for another exchange machine
df1806 No.13999435
>>13998177
>I have an idea for the combat
>>13998475
>>13998744
I've never had the chance to really play JSR, but shouldn't a "combat system" entirely be the player trying to avoid the police (Not get engaged with them) since your just a break-dancing graffiti artist on wheels who's "Fighting the man" through "sick beats" and "striking art"?
df1806 No.13999476
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>>13998177
>>“Sony loved it.” (via)
That doesn't really come as a ringing endorsement.
>>“To be honest, I really don’t care if my studio ever gets to make this. I just want SOMEONE, ANYONE, to make a new Jet Set Radio.”
https://www.hooktube.com/watch?v=GulMrbayu5Q
5603f8 No.13999481
I don't blame Sega for shooting them down. Maybe they have plans that don't involve making it XBone exclusive so people can actually fucking play it.
a28569 No.13999496
>>13998475
>>13999435
JSR had "combat" in the form of tagging rival gang members, it was just shit
It was like all the later tony hawk games and I think the skate games that had to include "skate checks" as a contrived realistic way of allowing the player to engage in direct conflict
An actual "combat system" geared towards maintaining and using momentum with your ridiculous physics defying skates would work fine, and wouldn't be out of character for the series
>>13999481
jet set is practically a dead brand at this point, anon, and if sega's unwilling to let other people do shit with it, I wouldn't count on anything
Someone should just try to get Air Gear licensed out, that's probably a lot easier to get
d5496a No.13999513
>>13999454
inb4 he tries to figure out a way to say it's a bad game because you can't use all the extra abilities at once or some gay shit
0e521d No.13999523
I guess Sega is in the right because this presentation looks terrible. You showed the models but you didn't really show how it would play except for that one rail grind. 3 models and 1 small environment level doesn't fill me with confidence that you have much of an idea of how to take Jet Set Radio to the next evolution.
I would love another Jet Set Radio but this one didn't feel like it went all out. They knew that Sega wouldn't pick it up and just did it half-assed as fans than designers.
5b8162 No.13999541
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>>13999108
Hover only has two good songs, though.
(Admittedly, those songs are fucking good.)
512e92 No.13999548
>>13999108
Yeah. Hover certainly is lesser due to its rpg mechanics. In JSRF you could go super fast and do all this crazy shit but it required some good rhythm and map knowledge. In Hover, replace rhythm with good build. Its simultaneously more skill intensive while also not being skill intensive at the exact same time. And it makes those races where your going as fast as possible feel much less engaging. Its not to say Hover is terrible, its just that something was definitely lost in the translation.
e0a835 No.13999663
I just want a Future PC port
0cb1a0 No.13999672
631ec2 No.14002077
>>13999361
>>13999454
Those are indeed trash.
It adds up.
7a096f No.14002204
e397cd No.14002210
>>13998216
/thread
Outrage faggots can go to >>>/tumblr/
669ec6 No.14002231
>>13999541
What's the other song? I can never have enough Hideki Naganuma.
9c58e0 No.14002293
>>13998475
Where in the video does anyone mention a combat system?
>Implying a combat system would be a bad thing
I would love to play Jet Set Yakuza: 0 Future
>How would that work though
Your wheels recede during combat except for skate based special moves
27ae96 No.14003158
>>13998177
>JSR
>what he seems centered on is his idea for the combat
Way to miss the point of JSR. It's no wonder they were rejected.
4066cb No.14003297
>>13998216
First bost best benis
4066cb No.14003299
>>13999454
What was Sonic Mania a sequel to?
a28569 No.14003321
>>14003299
The classic sonic series
4066cb No.14003326
>>14003321
That's fucking stupid. Do you know what a sequel is?
5b955b No.14003330
>>13998442
>what is Goku Makaimura kai
>what is Lode Runner Legacy
>what is MOTHER 3
Uh huh
a28569 No.14003337
>>14003326
It's not specifically a game with a number greater than the last one like you seem to think
bdf594 No.14003356
>>13998177
Probably made the right choice, which is more than I can say for Yu Suzuki outsourcing his shit to India.
4066cb No.14003403
>>14003337
I'm well aware of that faggot but if its only connected in that way it doesn't make it a sequel. A continuation of a franchise, even a specific part of one is not a fucking sequel
27ae96 No.14003407
>>14003326
>>14003403
Mania shortly follows after 3&K, stars the same characters, and even retains some plot threads. How is it not a sequel?
9034ee No.14003470
>>14003356
Yu Suzuki spent over a million dollars of Sega's funds so he could fuck around traveling abroad to hire "perfect actors" for one of the shittiest English dubs in a videogame I've ever heard.
5b955b No.14003503
>>14003470
He also worked on Space Harrier, Outrun, After Burner II, Hang-On, Virtua Fighter, Virtua Racing, Daytona USA and Sega Rally. He can goof around i'd say.
58ee37 No.14003515
>>14003503
sounds like he's best being constrained a bit.
5b955b No.14003526
>>14003515
Maybe he is a Kojima case huh?
58ee37 No.14003529
>>14003526
I don't know what you mean, but I think Sega would have been better off at the time giving opportunities to other talents they had internally, and tried holding onto Yukio Futatsugi and getting Team Andromeda to reform and grow.
5b955b No.14003533
>>14003529
Lay off those books.
9034ee No.14003554
>>14003515
He should've been constrained, it'd could've saved Sega from being devoured by Sammy if they managed their funds better at the time.
58ee37 No.14003564
>>14003554
shenmue really is just one slip up in a game of 50 slip ups that ended sega's market dominance. I just think there were opportunities to land softer and to keep some key figures. Futatsugi was 23 when he directed his first project at Sega and he led a team which pioneered technology on the saturn. Had they kept him around and grew that team, I think there could have been at least 2 or 3 more excellent projects. Instead he left Sega at 26 with an iconic series with 3 10/10 games under his belt and since then, hasn't been involved in many projects in the industry. I think he had vision but not a lot of people would have given him the chance to shine.
9034ee No.14003589
>>14003564
>I think he had vision but not a lot of people would have given him the chance to shine.
Which is why devs loved Sega at the time, they were pretty fucking lax to work with, now devs just walk out, leave and don't bother sticking around anymore, or Nintendo grabs up extra employees.
58ee37 No.14003606
>>14003589
Well, they had money to toss around. Working for Sega in their hey day was like working for the greatest people in the industry. If you wanted to make an insanely fast 16-bit game with hundreds of sprites on screen running at 60fps in the 1980s, you'd have to go to Sega. They were a generation ahead of everyone else and Daytona USA was like the icon for that. The game was built on hardware by Lockheed Martin for goodness sake. It can't be understated how many boundaries Sega pushed at the time.
20ed9b No.14003639
>>13998442
>Because sequels made 10+ years after the original suck.
>No exceptions.
39606d No.14003649
Sega rejected my Sonic game too but Nintendo loved it tho
5b955b No.14003655
>>14003606
It's sad that many people will completely ignore this and will shit on Yu Suzuki's legacy if Shenmue 3 is a flop. Most anons will just want to paint him as the new Inafune if the game doesn't meet their expectations or doesn't play like Yakuza 0 or whatever.
4d4953 No.14003677
>>13998261
Hover Revolt of Gamers?
Had a name change when they realized Revolt of Gamers sounded like Gamergate.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/280180/Hover/
9034ee No.14003689
>>14003655
He was talking about Sega, not Yu Suzuki. Company management is much more important than snowflakes.
5b955b No.14003702
>>14003689
And I wasn't. Drink battery acid.
9034ee No.14003711
>>14003702
Feel free to kill yourself celebrity tard.
5b955b No.14003720
a28569 No.14003736
>>14003403
We're speaking in the context of that anon calling another jet set game a sequel
Fuck off you goddamn retard
39606d No.14003760
>>14003677
>game about gamer revolt
>changed name because it was associated with a gamer revolt
3026a6 No.14003785
>>14002077
0/10 not even an attempt was made
40e23c No.14004446
>>13998257
They don't. Unless it is Total War, Yakuza or Sonic in the West, and Phantasy Star Online in Japan, SEGA is pretty much dead. Frankly, I would be OK if they, at least there are plans to bing Jet Set Radio Future to Xbox One via Backwards Compatibility
4eee36 No.14004469
>>14003776
Man, that running animation is horrible. It's like the characters are dancing.
4eee36 No.14004545
>>14003554
Shenmue's big budget was NOTHING next to the billions lost due to Hayao Nakayama's retarded decisions (the Saturn's rushed US launch, the 32X existing at all). Besides, much of that buget comes from the many years wasted on the Saturn, an extremely complicated machine with terrible development tools.
5b955b No.14004556
>>14004545
This guy pretty much destroyed everything SOA made out of pure spite for the gaijin.
6332e4 No.14004717
>not letting a game to a studio directed by a SJW
Sega was smart in this instance
e84bed No.14004800
>>14004717
>(((properly educated))) individual is a critical thinking
>im fucking plying critical thinking is a taught skill and not something you're either born with or not.
>i wish i could educate people what the word fascism means
By definition of the creator it's the state/nation having the ultimate say in approving and disapproving of population's activities with zero tolerance policies towards enemies, like say, communists.
>All within the state, nothing outside the state, nothing against the state.
>public funding of degenerates squirting out paint enemas on canvas is very impactful
Especially when barely make ends meet, but at least you can see that your tax money is in good hands.
e62fe7 No.14005068
>>13998177
Who needs JSR. We've already got us a perpetual motion SEGA game.
bca6c5 No.14005091
>>13998216
>>13998475
>>13998482
I changed my mind.
>>14002077
>am i cool yet?
Kill yourself.
d7242f No.14007731
>>14004446
>image 1
DELET THIS OR B DELETD
36bb10 No.14008068
>>14003776
Tutorial slut looks like one of the idorus.
8e8041 No.14010992
>>14004545
nice comb over, really subtle, hardly noticeable.
:^)
6b8599 No.14011517
>>14003326
>Do you know what a sequel is?
Yes :^)
f489c3 No.14011532
>>13998177
Dubs demand something that I post something special
jetsetradio.live
f489c3 No.14011539
f489c3 No.14011550
Consider if you will for a moment
Jet set radio crossed with hotline miami
6bf5ac No.14013304
6c8bdf No.14013520
>>14011550
omg it's just like dark souls and skyrim xDDDDDD
SO EPIC BRO!!! OMG!!!!
7f27e8 No.14025999
>>14003776
OMFG the animations are rigid as fuck!