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>>13990094

>rest stance multiplicatively

I meant 'stack', didn't notice that typo

Here's more useful tips off the top of my head:

>Agility B is a 1.1x multiplier on attack/dodge ki costs and regeneration time over Agility A, with a 1.3x ki cost on running

>Agility C is a 1.5x multiplier on attack/dodge ki costs and regeneration time over Agility A, with a 2x ki cost on running with slower run speed

>buffs that come from your skill tree (weapon/ninjitsu/omnyo) do not stack with each other, but do stack with everything else

>weapons with skills that work off timely guard remove the stamina cost of blocking on timely guard

>swapping to ranged mode instantly sheaths your weapon, allowing you to sheath attack or use a weapon buff

>swapping to neutral stance for a ki flux speeds up the sheathing animation and lets you chain sheath attacks rapidly

>you can charge up Tiger Sprint then weapon swap to dual swords right before you attack to unleash SotC instead

>headshotting an enemy in living weapon mode takes them out of living weapon mode

Fucking shit anons, what is the best way to kill those fire-wheel face fuckers? I mean, I've completed the sub-mission in the first area where you fight them, but I just couldn't kill one without getting my ass whooped, wondered if there's a better strategy than run like a bitch and tank fire damage when you strike at them.

>>13990417

Play the AI. If you run away they do the wheel rush. If you stay in their face they just spam fire breath and that shit is easy to back away from.

FUCK THE GODDAMN NUES

>>13990449

Nice, okay. I did notice the fire breath move was easy to avoid or at the very least a low-threat attack. I'll remember to stay in their face. Which is to say, all of them

>>13990449

Not true. If you stay in their face they have a (roughly) 50% chance of doing fire breath, and a 50% chance of just rolling at you. Not the charged speed roll, just a normal speed roll with no windup.

Started playing this game earlier today. Already past the first mission, am I missing anything by pirating the game?

Keep in mind I live in SA, so I might be unable to enjoy proper multiplayer.

>>13990644

Multiplayer in this is entirely optional and it's only co-op and some shitty arenas no one plays.

You can clear everything solo just fine

>>13990644

Other than coop multiplayer and dead PVP there's also the player Revenents and clans.

Revenants are AI controlled copies of a player who died in the level. Offline there are a few developer placed revenants, but online you get both those and player ones. Revenants can (especially at lower levels) drop the gear that player was wearing, making it a fairly easy way to gear up in NG.

You can join a clan while offline once you unlock the hidden teahouse, but you can never change clans unless you are online. Clans provide a rather significant permanent buff that grows the longer you are in that clan. I'm not sure if it can grow while offline, since that growth is tied to the clan battles online feature.

>>13990417

Back attacks stun them. Bait the fire breath, dash behind them and make them fall over.

>>13990417

What the other anons said, along with if the wheelmonk ends up charging for a spin attack make sure you aim it so it hits a wall, it'll cause it to fall automatically.

>>13990814

It basically has 3 attacks (4 if you count it's explosion when knocked down). The chargeup spin and the firebreath are easily dealt with. The uncharged spin which is basically equivalent to it walking at you is not.

some "advanced" sword tips

>using the mid stance dodge twice covers more distance than using the low stance dodge twice. this allows you to get out of the way of the attacks instead of relying on i frames.

>kick is great for yokais but not so much for humans. deplete a yokai's ki with kicks and then go ham on it until it recovers

>you'll be staying in mid stance for most of the time so get used to it

>the back attack damage increase mystic art is objectively better than the stamina one

>become comfortable with backwave,tempest and parry timings before moving to NG.

>tiger sprint remains useless no matter what you are using

>night rain is very situational compared to normal iai strikes

>sword ki isn't very useful out of PVP

>swallow's wing is not useful if you aren't at A agility, even then it isn't a get out of hits free card

>you need to be standing still to use backwave and then press block again to activate tempest, the timing on this is very tight

>swift step is straight up better than heaven flash

Now for setting up big damage on human bosses

>never use grapple

>learn carnage and weakness onmyo magic

>put the enemy in a grapple state by either just depleting its stamina or backwave+tempest

>when its huffing and puffing cast weakness on it

>run to the back of the enemy as quickly as you can

>instabuff yourself with the carnage talisman

>execute an Iai strike followed by a final blow, the timing on this is something you'll need to get used to.

>follow up with a few melee strikes until it starts blocking

This combo does a fifth of Muneshige's health on Way of the Nioh with Way of the Wise gear and it alone justifies mastering Backwave and Tempest.

>>13>>13990906

I prefer to Serpent Strike>Foot Sweep>Weapon Switch>Iai strike>Final Blow. Trying to pull off some bullshit parries on a boss is just stupid.

Of course I don't even to that anymore, I should put together a video of fighting some Abyss bosses with my LW build.

>>13990950

>Trying to pull off some bullshit parries on a boss is just stupid

please this isn't shitter tips

>>13991159

Thats not a strategy. That is just spamming the attack button.

>>13990692

You forgot that revenants are great in NG+ as well, because of divines and occasional ethereal.

Also Co-op is great way to get a shitload of honor and umbracite, just throwing that out there.

>>13991188

You don't get ethereals in NG+

>>13991187

The strategy is "get good gear" and "buff up"

>>13991194

whenever you get them I assume you can get them from revenants

>>13991196

Nigga, what?

Its get shit gear and buff down.

That's real strat.

>>13991196

Thats not strategy, thats shitter talk of a monkey.

>>13991207

You want to make the game harder for yourself go ahead, but when someone comes around for advice or thinking their build is hot shit this is the answer.

Man Sanada Yukimura is cancer in Unyielding Hellfire in wotd and I'm sure wotw as well. I can't find someone to summon and I can't stop getting slapped when he goes wind mode.

>>13991209

Nioh is a gear based game, you can't fucking pretend it's not. It's closer to Diablo than Dark Souls.

>>13991227

>Nioh is a gear based game

Mastering enemy movesets will get you further than just number chasing like a braindead retard.

Considering people won't be doing anywhere close to that amount of damage for the majority of their gameplay, its fucking stupid to base your playstyle around it.

>>13991242

This same build works at pretty much all levels. You don't get ethereals and shit early, but you don't need them because enemies have less defense. Prior to your first Yasikani it might be a little bit of a struggle, but at that point in the game you can just sloth your way to victory.

>>13991258

>sloth shitter

why am I not surprised?

>>13991159

74k damage final blow, and that's not even maxed out in terms of attack buffs. I wonder how much that would have done with a weakness talisman

>>13991230

Which spear is that? Oni Sakon's?

>>13991341

I just realized that was an Odachi.

I haven't played this game in like two weeks. Guess it's time to get back into it. I beat yukionna last time, how far into the game am I?

>>13991341

Odachi, not spear. Forget the name of the thing I have it refashioned to but the base item is just the seven misfortunes set

>>13991351

Well whatever it is it hits like a train

>>13991353

Middle of region 3 of 9, x5+postgame

>>13991263

>sloth shitter

I see you're here to ruin the thread. We had a good run I suppose.

>>13991217

gid gud scrub

>>13991356

Are you using the whole Seven Misfortunes set?

>>13990417

The worst part about the wanyudos is that they don't even give a shit if they're confused, the very best in threat annulment. They'll do their explosion recovery on schedule and you're going to have to deal with it. Team ninja knew they were the most annoying shits in the game and made it so you couldn't ever trivialize them.

>>13990417

They're easy once you get them down. Stay at a moderately close distance (not right up next to them or they'll just keep rolling at you) and wait until they do the fire breath or their retarded yell. If it's fire breath circle to the left of them as soon as they start breathing, then hit their opposite face. If it's the scream you have to very quick. They'll get knocked over and you can wail them with whatever you want until they get back up, then you repeat.

>>13993478

can't inherit competing traits, so probably

>>13993327

why are your colors so fucked my dude.

>>13991373

>horrible crutch playstyle

how exactly is it not exclusively for shitters?

Its fucking impossible to get fucking susanoo range weapons

How is the pc port? is it shit?

>>13993821

>how exactly is it not exclusively for shitters

What level of the abyss are you on?

When is it worth doing the abyss? I'm in the middle of the second DLC.

>>13993826

It's alright.

>>13993831

650ish? I stopped playing awhile ago because I lost my buddy

>>13993837

Then you should know sloth really isnt that op at that point then

>>13993839

which is exactly why it's horrible to use it as a crutch like a retard and get used to it.

>>13993836

Nioh is literally a Japanese dark souls

>>13993836

>trying desperately to defend his shitter playstyle that actively makes him worse at the game later

>i-it's not a competition

>>13993840

Its not a crutch anymore than any other item is.

>>13993846

what other items prevents you from learning how to dodge properly, exploit attack windows correctly, let you dodge in between hits you should be blocking, and overall makes you worse at the game.

>>13993863

It does teach you how to play though, its a good item to use in the same way living weapon teaches you how to play

Past way of the strong sloth does next to nothing on a good amount of bosses anyway

>>13993868

It teaches you how to play if the enemy is moving at half fucking speed, then when bosses basically become immune to it all the sudden you get a massive spike in difficulty because you chose to play in the most shitter way possible.

If the invincible suzaku build was still in the game you'd be a scrub for using it too.

>>13993876

I bet you also get angry that people get mushrooms in the first level of mario

>>13993835

Abyss doesn't unlock completely until you've finished Way of the Nioh.

>>13993881

>u mad

what else can you expect from a shitter when he is on blast

>>13993881

Guys I for one only play on easy mode, and this means I have just as much skill as anyone else. It's not a competition!

>>13993884

Im not on blast, im just pointing out sloth is just just another spell that helps kill shit

Use it or dont but getting mad someone is using it for easy shit when it looses most its strength later on is fucking stupid

Like shit are you gonna get shitty I stealth basically every abyss floor instead of killing everything in my way or not even removing the debuffs

>>13993904

Nobody is getting mad except you because people are rightfully calling Sloth what it is.

>>13993913

A spell worth using

>>13993916

not past way of the strong :^)

>>13993921

Yes it is, it just doesn't last long on most shit

I use lots of buffs and debuffs

>>13993925

>can't even go 4 posts without backpeddling

I-is this the power of a sloth shitter?

>>13993925

>it just doesn't last long on most shit

It literally doesn't work

Have you even playing the game?

>>13993934

Works on some shit though 🤔

How good is bonus after purification (nullify damage) ? Sounds like something that would last for half a second.

I am new to the game and only just got to the 4th area, I mainly use an Odachi and I have not used any Ninjutsu or Onmyo skills until now, any buffs or abilities in there that I should skill for, I havent used any of my Onmyo/Ninjutsu Skill points yet

>>13994806

>>13994053

Generally if you can afford it you should buy all the passives from all of the trees. Of course if you are only in the fourth area you wont be able to get everything but still keep that in mind as you gain more levels.

>>13995276

Other than coop completion rewards and random drops during coop, you can also get it for doing Twilight Missions, certain first-time story/side missions, and in the Abyss. I'm not sure if it drops regularly in the abyss or if it's similar to droplets of decay which are guaranteed from a new boss but super rare otherwise.

>>13995276

So far I've seen

>coop

>abyss drops

>rare clan reward

>any twilight mission, guaranteed

>mission rewards starting from way of the wise, possibly demon

It's not that rare, it's just that you can't completely go nuts with using it.

>>13995333

I've seen it drop while I was the host during coop on wotw and I think as well as when I was solo.

>>13990094

>Stance dance

I don't know how to do that is it just swap stance to act as a ki pulse?

I have the ability I think, I just don't use it.

>>13995369

Yes, switching your stances as the fight calls for it, a lot of people tend to just stick to one stance instead of capitalizing on all of them.

>>13995407

I generally use mid/low depending on what I'm facing as I dislike high stance unless I need some range.

>>13995369

Low is great for dodging, mid is good for when you can get some hits in and high is good on slow enemies that you can slap around. Plus it also depends on the weapon you are using. Sometimes one stance has a vastly superior moveset over the other two. IE the kusarigama high stance.

Solid game.

Takes no risks.

Gear system makes it impure compared to the games it is copying.

6/10

>>13995407

Most of the time one stance is just superior.

For instance, I use an Odachi. I pretty much just stick in Mid stance all the time. Once in a while I'll use High stance to break a horn, but otherwise it's pretty much suicide. The attacks do more damage, but they are FAR too slow, and they are pretty hard to hit with because they have no horizontal.

Low stance has slightly better dodging, Specifically, you can use multiple quick dodges, wheras the second dodge in mid stance gives you a roll instead, the ki cost difference is negligable. The thing is you shouldn't be using more than one dodge at a time anyway. Either you dodge the attack the first time or you get hit, end of story. So I find no reason to ever use low stance.

>>13995434

Honestly Kusarigama is one of the few weapons I would say all stances are useful.

>High stance

Strong attack: Ranged poke, no combo potential. Niche use only

Quick attack: Spin the weight. Best damage, but slow windup/wind down

>Mid stance

Strong attack: Short range slash, slightly quicker than high stance quick with better damage per hit, but the range makes it almost useless

Quick attack: Long range sweeps. Best attack for dealing with multiple enemies or trying to keep them at a distance.

>Low stance

Strong attack: Similar damage to high stance quick combos, but with a faster startup time. Good for breaking horns (as high quick). Best combo for applying elemental status, a single combo will do it almost every time.

Low quick: Almost continuous attack. With parry disabled on your weapon this can fully lockdown (non boss) humanoid enemies so that they can't fight back just by spamming it. Starts quick enough to prevent small enemies from getting a first attack. Best spam attack vs weak enemies.

>>13995451

Odachi high stance is very useful for its break abilities and slow enemies. Two quick to Twin Moons wrecks some shit. I do use mid for bread and butter though.

On a side note, I'm getting fucking tired of getting ethereals in all armor slots but fuckall on weapons.

>>13995529

Ethereal armor/weapons don't matter. You want to craft those and defile them anyway. What's important are ethereal accessories. Finding one with good stats is impossible and basically the only thing worth grinding for.

As for Odachi, break is hardly an issue. It has such a high break ability you can just spam mid stance quick attacks and break through most guards. Follow up with that one skill attack (forget the name, it's the one that pushes the enemy to the ground if they run out of ki) and you can crush through any guard in 2 combos. If you have the time to use high stance+twin moons you are basically just showing off vs an enemy who can't fight back anyway.

>>13995561

i believe it's called bull charge.

>>13995572

Charging bull, close enough I guess

>>13995561

From what I understand defiling is only worth it around the 30th level of the abyss and I'm pretty far away from that.

>Forging

If there's a way to make the forged divines pop at +15 or more, sure.

>Charging bull

I do use that, but I find it lost a good deal of effectiveness in WotW.

>>13995608

Your waifu is shit.

>>13995608

>minimum stamina/strength required for it.

It's somewhere around 50-60. You can fudge a little bit if you replace one piece of it with a piece of light armor.

>>13995608

With 28 stamina I can wear 4/5 Tatenashi (no chest piece) and get B agility.

The stats to wear it is 8str 8stam if crafted IIRC.

>>13995642

>>13995644

Kek, I only have 10 stamina. Gonna need to respec once I get that smithing text then.

>>13991159

How are you a girl? I thought the nioh protag had a dick?

>>13995714

Magic of You earn the female forms via glory.

>>13995845

>>13995790

Can you change armors when you change appearance or is it one set outfit?

>>13995597

I believe it depends on the starting item level. You should be able to ethereal <=250 gear from 21 to 30 but i cant be sure. I recommend rushing through the easiest wotn stuff just to unlock 30+ then coming back with ethereals

>>13995915

Set outfit.

>>13996134

gay.

>using Soul Matching to level a divine from 150 to 200

>Price: ~200,000,000

>using Soul Matching to level a divine from 200 to 250 while also increasing it from +28 to +29 at the same time

>Price: ~187,000

I get that there are various discounts that you get for same item, same name, soul match discount skill and so on…but I do not understand this massive change. Even the maxed out 30% discount from the old geezer on top of all of the rest of the discounts don't account for the massive difference in price here.

Is there a "congrats you've reached WotN" discount of 95%?

>>13996180

Soul match costs go up depending on how far from the items startting level and how many times the level has increased. I dont think costs go up if an item stays the same level after matching, like when inheriting or adding pluses.

There is an ethereal modifier that will reset that increase

>>13996199

Basically you are supposed to replace equipment after a few levels with soul matching only extending the life slightly. Once you get to end game though you aren't supposed to have to replace anymore so they give you the reset mod. Now it's about perfecting

>>13996237

>>13996199

Gotcha, that makes sense.

>being immune to all elemental damage doesn't make you immune to all elemental ailments

lame and gay

>>13996341

I thought it did? I could have sworn some anons tested it.

>>13996370

I have 114% immunity to elemental damage, and accordingly take 0 damage from all elemental sources. Tested this against Umi-bozu's water beam, which knocks me down but does 0 damage to me.

I get tagged by a red enemy with that wind debuff and it's instantly applied to me without even any buildup.

Just now got attacked by a non-red onyudo, the fire-type, and he inflicted me with scorch after a single hit. The scorch also did fire-damage ticks to me, albeit very slow damage (34 per tick vs. my 5054hp).

I double-checked my current elemental resistance just to be sure, and it's still up above 110% where it belongs.

It's puzzling. Maybe the abyss runs on different rules or something?

>>13996266

I hate when games do shit like that.

>>13996370

>>13996341

Isn't there a different armor bonus that makes you resistant to elemental buildup?

So I just reached WotN and it's pretty much just a 1hit KO festival. Does it get better ?

>>13996561

I'm immune to elemental buildup, that's the thing. I can be hit by elemental attacks all day long and nothing - but some attacks seemingly bypass buildup and resistance and inflict the ailment directly even though their damage component is still negated.

>>13996578

Not really, no. The game is pretty much "don't get hit" from now on.

Why is the performance in this game so shit. I can still play pretty much every other game at 60fps but as soon as there is fire on-screen I instantly go down 10fps.

>>13996586

The fact that no matter what type of armor you wear at this point makes a different is kind of a lame design decision imo. Enemy health too, just a sponge at this point. Think I'm just gonna get the "You are Nioh" achievement and call it a day then.

>>13996600

I guess this is why I've always subconsciously prioritized fire sconces as targets in every fight.

>>13996778

Get a couple of charms with reduce firearms damage and elemental damage received on them, inherit or forge reduced firearms damage onto every piece of gear and forge elemental damage received onto your chest, and you can ignore all projectiles and elemental attacks in the game (barring a few weird cases in the abyss).

The defense you're feeling will carry you through WotW as long as you keep your gear at the maximum level and keep their +levels relatively high.

In WotN your defense will mean nothing. Your tears will be your only shield from the horrors beyond.

>>13996872

Gonna have to get some more gold again before I do anymore reforging but I'll definitely keep this in mind.

>>13996917

If you do that "The Disappearing Ranjatai" mission, you might get something called "Ranjatai Fragment" in your inventory. Not sure if it's a one-time completion bonus per difficulty, or a low-chance drop from the objective.

It's worth 10 million amrita, or can be sold to Tome for 10 million gold. I highly recommend selling it, as in WotD you can get 10 million amrity from just killing a single little skeleton.

do i go tonfa or kusarigama

yes i do love pain

>>13997290

Tonfa's optimum damage output is extremely low compared to every other weapon.

Kusarigama is on par with everything else.

If you love pain, go tonfa. It's the only weapon in the game that appears to be intentionally gimped.

>>13997313

I think Tonfas are a PVP weapon. They aren't strong, but they are fast and hard to read and can easily lockdown and murder a single non-boss human target.

>>13997290

Do both.

>>13990506

Are they that hard to beat? All you gotta due is avoid the lightning, and hit them on the ribcage where they are weak. Don't forget to put anti-electric charms in the accessory slot.

Imagine a Yukimura/Musamune boss fight

>>13997840

That's floor 999 of the abyss

>>13997313

Tonfas are very good absolutely need the right skills to work, if you're not basically constantly attacking with barely a dip in ki, you're doing shit damage. Consecutive attack bonuses probably help. I wouldn't use them as primary weapons though, they're helpless against blockfags.

>>13997858

Strange that you'd say that, I love them when I run into blockfags. They'll sit there and guard demon dance until all their ki is gone and then I get to punish it.

Is there any way to reliably get drops you want? I've been chasing down kote with inheritable throwing weapon damage x2 for 2 days now and they just don't drop.

>>13998118

I've been looking for a Ethereal Nukemaru or Halberd for weeks

Is there a sub-mission with Hideyori? His stuff looks cool but the last samurai is an annoying mission.

>>13997905

It's less than tonfas can't break than if the enemy just dodges, you're hitting air. A good break weapon needs few hits.

>>13998633

You can turn divine into etherial in the abyss by defile it

Generally you dont want to get hit so those weakenings wont ever get applied unless you are getting hit

>>13996950

It's 100 million amrita, not 10. Still pointless amrita. Selling it is affected by bonuses, so usually 14 million gold.

>>13997313

But I thought Nioh was a skill based game and not an equipment based game, so nobody should be complaining about weapon damage being too low because that means you're a shitter.

What benefit is there to using the online play in this game? What differs from only offline.

I'm thinking of getting this game and I don't know if it's worth buying (at a sale) or just going the high seas way.

How do I beat Onmoraki (the big gay bird in the DLC)? I barely do any damage.

>>13998768

Same way you kill everything

living weapon a couple debuffs and a couple buffs

If you cant do that I suggest getting better weapons

>>13998763

Coop is a good source of neat rewards. There's also a clan system, and you can't change clans after your first choice if you're not online. Otherwise it's a single player game.

>>13998768

Don't get hit by the wind effect, it sinks your damage.

>>13998808

>Don't get hit by the wind effect, it sinks your damage.

That was it. I guess I never realized it lowers your damage. Thanks, anon.

With Patronage points spent, what's the highest level gear I can forge? Right now I can craft 287-300, is that maximum or can I go higher?

It's just me or ninjutsu builds are stupidly cheesey? I've beaten most of the bosses with nothing but projectile spam and abusing replacement scroll

>>13999041

>two ninjas spawn at the same time

>both red variants

>both have absurdly massive paralyze-on-hit buffs

Multi-enemy arenas are super-clenchers for sure on later difficulties.

i have only just started

and i have fought so far

every single bloody grave i have found

all of them

i now have over a hundred pieces of Warrior of the West

>>13999172

Donate, deconstruct, and sell after you keep the best ones for yourself.

>>13999209

Most of them are the same. I think I must have killed the same guy at least ten times.

>>13999209

>>13999222

Actually, now that I think about it, I don't know for shit what is a good item.

I have one that's 30% everlasting ki that I'm using right now. Unfortunately all the rest of its abilities are critical only.

>>13999222

>I think I must have killed the same guy at least ten times.

More likely you are seeing the snowball effect.

>>13998768

Use Suzaku's talisman it wipes out all of his ki.

>>13993327

>>14000121

Aren't you that anon from the last several threads that got called out for trying to ERP and generally be cringy as fuck after some anons added you.

>>13998768

Shoot his horn with an arrow to blast his ki to shit and then eat his asshole.

>>14000121

You don't actually need to do any of those missions to unlock the next difficulty, you only need to finish the DLCs.

>>14001039

I morbidly curious as to how anyone can manage to ERP in Nioh? Which particular series of emotes does one use?

>>13999762

Of course I was. I know what I did to unlock them, I just don't know how much was actually necessary for the farm mission.

BTW if you want to unlock other dojo missions, like the novice/adept ones you need to complete other regions

>>14001583

I second this curiosity, but not morbidly.

>>14001624

What if it involved kodama transformation?

>>14001997

Slightly morbid.

>>14003194

What's the point of trying to do challenge missions for completion if you are just going to get someone else to do them for you.

That said, while I'm kind of dormant on the game right now if anyone is interested in doing the Abyss post WotN (floors 31 to 999) I'd be interested in cooping through it. While I'm more than capable, doing them solo kind of got boring. Currently I'm up to 105 or something close to that, but I'm willing to start from a lower number and help you catch up.

>>13990094

I just ki'd in my pants.

>>14003194

I'll be honest, with you posting anime traps, I'm not inclined to believe it was a lie.

I was not expecting this game to be so fun. It's like I'm actually a ninja or something.

>>13999172

Did you toggle Online to On at the Shrine?

>>14003227

>it's unfair

That's what separates the men from the faggots. If you can't overcome situations unfairly stacked against you, then I've got some bad news for you about life in general.

What is the best way to farm honor?

>>14005447

Co-op.

If you mean solo, then that Bridge mission with all of the revenants. Not Bridge of Bone, the other one.

>>14005680

But can you deflect the cannonballs in Siege of Osaka (Summer)?

>>14005740

With enough RFD you can just stand there and enjoy the gentle pitter-pat of the arrows and cannonballs against your face without taking any damage. Does that count?

>>14005953

I want deflection, not negation.

How do you trigger a change in tempering slots? Reforging doesn't seem to do shit.

>>14005680

Where do I get one?

>>14006702

It is a drop.

>>14006702

I got it on some random mission in way of the wise. I doubt it's tied to any specific mission, sadly.

>>14006723

So it's Wise and up then?

>>14006723

>>14006702

>>14005680

I seem to remember yata mirror dropping in WotD, before I had seen anything else with Etherial mods.

Either way, you can get/reforge Reflect Projectiles on ethereal gloves as well.

>>14006919

Red means it's a story mission and it's mandatory for progression

Grey means it's a side mission and you can ignore it if you feel like it

>>14006975

right, simple enough

>>14005527

Thanks, now I can finally play as my waifu.

Donating useless equipment also gave me a huge chunk

>>14006824

Are there any other special accessories?

>>14007054

You could have easily figured that out by yourself if you played the game for more than a minute. Fucking retard.

>>14008649

i bet you are cute anon

>>14008716

/v/ is just /cuteboys/ with vidya :^)

I'm at the ending of Way of the Strong; oh boy am I not very good at this game. I've got some cluster fuck kusiragama and Kingo's build. Just trudging along hoping to get past it.

So is Iga Jonin the lightest armor that has a set bonus and isn't ass?

>>13990094

Do the bosses get more difficult each time you fight one?

Multiple times now I've beaten a boss without too much hassle only to be btfo'd when fighting the same boss again

>>14009164

When they're on the same mission I'm fairly sure they're supposed to have the same stats. But the game lets you become extremely strong and progressively buffs bosses as you progress through the game and the NG+ cycles so they stay hard as a result.

>>14009164

>Multiple times now I've beaten a boss without too much hassle only to be btfo'd when fighting the same boss again

Onryoki right?

He's right here>>14009172 The versions of bosses that you fight in later missions get progressively harder. Greater Demon Hunting is a real kick in the head the first time.

>>13990094

Blocking isn't actually stronger in mid stance. The stance has other defensive benefits like being able to recover Ki while blocking and moving, most of the defensive skills, and mainly wide sweeping attacks, but your actual blocking strength is unaffected.

Also while it is true you don't really have to worry about reforging and Soul Matching for a very long time, people should still dabble in it if they want to since the knowledge goes far and it's satisfying while not being difficult, although having a proper equipment setup makes things even easier.

I haven’t played a “souls-like” since Dark Souks. I’m interested in Nioh though. What should I expect and is it more worth a play through than Bloodbourne (which I have also yet to play.)?

>>14008399

There's the garnet prayer beads, where were a special pre-order DLC accessorie from the PS4. You got it from beating the demos. It gave a 50% elemental reduction.

>>14009799

Go and play in traffic.

>>14010072

That brings a question to mind, what was in the PS4 demo? Isle of Demons and Deep in the Shadows? More?

>>14010485

Also Memories of Death-Lilies, The Spirit Stone Slumbers, Withered Grass and Youkai, and Invitation from the Warrior of the West and the twilight versions of those missions. Although not all in one demo.

>>14010072

Can't you get garnet prayer beads as a regular drop too?

>>14011844

its onimusha meets ninja gaiden with a bit of extra stuff sprinkled on

>>14011897

That’s much better than a souls game. I feel misled. If I knew this was Ninja Gaiden but more I would have been hype from the start.

>>14011844

Its gear system and mission-based design means it's too different from souls to be just a ripoff, but you are definitely stretching it a lot. It's still similar to souls.

>>14011882

I've never found one but it's possible.

>>14010485

The Alpha had Isle of Demons and The Spirit Stone Slumbers up to Nue, the Beta had Isle of Demons, Deep in the Shadows, Of Withered Grass and Yokai, Twilight versions of those three, Invitation from the Warrior of the West and nerfs to enemies and systems all round. I don't know what the Last Chance had outside of Memories of Death-Lilies and more game nerfs though.

>>14012598

>I don't know what the Last Chance had outside of Memories of Death-Lilies and more game nerfs though.

It also had Warrior of the West.

>>14015145

There are. I can't give specifics right at the moment because I can't turn on my PS4 right now but theres one with magic scaling and there's another one that syncs with Yatagarasu. There's also a few dual swords that are a part of sets. Dual hatchets look nice, too bad there is no namahage mask.

>>14015145

The ideal weapon usually is one without any fixed attributes save maybe for a set bonus if you want to use that particular set. It should have 5 non-inheritable attributes on it and ideally have as much attack multiplier, parry and break as possible, although the difference between weapons in the same category is usually a single digit and therefor not really worth fussing over.

There are a FEW unique attributes that might be worth looking at. Single elements are usually out for a few reasons. The main being that the single elements you can roll via reforging are often higher than what you get from a unique weapon. Many builds (especially LW builds) avoid weapon elements entirely as well, although I will say that inflicting element statuses is exactly what Dual Swords are made for. Dual elements are an interesting idea, however they provide much slower buildup than their single-element counterpart as well as the same drawbacks that single elements have. Their only real value is in inflicting Confusion/Discord somewhat more reliably compared to multiple separate sources, but you need to get a LOT of hits in on an enemy who happens to be vulnerable to both of your weapons elements at the same time.

Dual Bloodstained Hatchets are interesting. They have a fixed attribute damage bonus that does not conflict with any other weapon damage bonuses, so theoretically they have the ability to out-damage any other dual swords. On the other hand, their damage bonus ONLY works on the first hit on an enemy, so unless your build is specifically designed to make use of that it probably won't make much difference, and the Odachi (Bloodstained Cleaver) is probably a better choice for that particular purpose.

Bottom line, use weapons from a set you like or use ones that have no fixed slots.

>>14020470

>DDLC

>Steins Gate

>Korean

Jesus fucking christ you reek of faggotry. I wouldn't add you if you paid me.

>>14021097

>Judging someone for trying out a free game

You're a bigger faggot than he is.

>>14021110

That's not what I doing, look at his profile nigger. I completed DDLC, it was terrible.

>>14020470

How the fuck do you have over 200 hours on emily is away? Does it even have cards.

>>14021112

>playing DDLC

Faggot detected, who would ever want someone as yourself around in any capacity.

Just starting Way of the Demon now. Is each difficulty jump that big?

>>14024085

Wise is much worse than Demon but also isn't as much of a gamechanger than Strong>Demon since that's where the red enemies appear and they're still the main concern in wise. From what I hear, way of the nioh is get hit and die mode so it's probably the worst yet.

>>14024152

So these red dudes just have a bunch of buffs? That's the big stand out?

>>14024257

>>14024152

Way of the Wise adds new attacks to a lot of different enemies. For example, one eyed oni will try to sit on you if you go behind, or giant skeletons will use mad spinner.

>>14024257

They have a bunch of buffs but the worst is amrita drain, which tanks the usefulness of living weapon. They're also often in places where you can get ambushed. The good news is, if you can beat them once, they forever revert to a normal enemy.

>>14024321

Also as he said, but aside from a few surprises I wouldn't call the new moves as big a difficulty spike as the red ones. It's an interesting one though.

>>14025628

Every weapon is extremely good. Yes even "that" one. I don't know what evil buddhas you mean but stances, mobility and Ki Pulse are always key to dealing with everything. You can punish very short openings and dodge out of and back into your attacks very quickly regardless of weapon so take advantage of it.

>>14025628

Odachi is easy mode

>>14025628

Odachi is great. It has high per-hit damage, fast attacks and great reach. I find it to be pretty much the ideal weapon for a very simplistic style. Just rely on mid-stance quick attacks for pretty much everything and you are good.

Compared to the Axe, the Odachi is MUCH faster for its heavy-hitting attacks and has a bit more reach as well, making everything that much easier to pull off. Compared to the spear it has similar reach but also more of a sweep to hit enemies not directly in front of you and WAY more damage per hit. Axe leads to a playstyle where you need to look for or create large openings or pre-time your attacks wheras the spear is a much more technical skill attack based weapon. Odachi is just a straightforward approach.

>>14021112

tfw I knew people would judge me for getting DDLC on steam so I got the standalone :^)

I pirated it and I enjoyed the game playing as dual swords faggot(until I got gifted that OP sword and changed my build since swords were my secondary weapon). I just defeated the giant sea monster that attacked my ship earlier. Should I buy the game? The complete edition's price just got 2/3 ed on my region(not a discount).

>>14025972

Spirit stones son!

>>14025972

I used a spirit stone.

With a high enough gauge rate (that's what pleiades talisman and the A- on paired raiken is for) a single spirit stone is easily enough to fully recharge living weapon. The catch though is that if it's still in "cooldown mode" the spirit stone will only end the cooldown rather than recharging it. Fortunately, there was still some airborne Amrita from my last hit on the boss+extraction talisman, so cooldown mode ended instantly and I was able to refill quickly.

>>14025967

Coop is alright if you set the region to limited and offers interesting rewards. You can also get some rewards from the clan battles, including loads of glory (for turning into other characters). Single player wise you're in for potential hundreds of hours with all the NG+ cycles and constant rewards for replaying levels.

>>14025628

You mean the Onyudos? Just get in some hits after you bait them into doing their slap attacks. And if you see them get into a running position just dodge to the side because those charges of theirs will fuck you up.

I finally found out how to get better performance in this game without killing myself, starting the game in win7 compatibility mode (even if you use win7) fucks with the particle effects slightly for some fucking reason even though I dont notice a big difference and now the game almost never drops from 60fps. It took me way too long to figure this out, I hope this helps some toaster out there or maybe this is already common knowledge and I am just a retard.

>>14027693

>fucks with the particle effects slightly

what does that mean?

>>14027693

Yeah turns out that exact kept crashing my game every now and again, mostly whenever I'd attempt to use living weapon, had to put it in compatibility mode to keep it stable when my PC is leagues above and beyond what should be expected for such a game.

Ah well, shitty ports are nothing new.

>>14025628

>Also how do you kill those evil buddas

Bait them into charging into a wall which will remove all their ki so you can stunlock them.

If you want to be more active get behind them, block the tongue 180 attack and then do some damage before they attack.

>>14029067

It can, but why would you want to?

You can easily hit B weight with 4 pieces of Tatenashi

>>14029067

Weight reduction only applies on the current piece of gear. Getting it on a Kote is a waste of a slot.

>>14029105

Weight reduction is a totally wasted stat. At most, you should have it on your chest piece ONLY and even then only if you are wearing 5 pieces of heavy armor. Anything else you can get B weight just from Stamina and use the equipment slots for actually useful features.

>>14029119

>>14029105

Hmm ok, my reasoning was to put less points into stamina.

Different question: is it worth giving up the current set for tatenashi; i will lose about 15% CCD i think.

>>14029145

If you do, make sure to remove Equipment Weight Damage Bonus from your weapons because it won't stack very well with the bonus on Tatenashi (grab familiarity for melee and agility for ranged if you haven't already). Once you do that more than makes up for the CCD though.

>>14029154

I have Agility on the Rifle so i can't get familiarity dmg also (right?). So i think i need to get it on the bow.

>>14029166

Familiarity only increases damage done by the weapon that has the bonus. Agility and Equipment Weight increase all weapon damage. Assuming most of your damage comes from melee weapons, you put Familiarity on Melee, Equipment Weight or Agility on ranged, so that both increase your melee damage.

Two sources of Equipment Weight Damage Bonus (or 2 agility for that matter) don't stack very well, so if you use Tatenashi which comes with EWDB as a set bonus you have to make sure you DON'T have EWDB on any of your weapons, as it's wasted compared to Agility and Familiarity.

Naturally, EWDB, Agility, and Familiarity all conflict on the same item, so you can only have one at a time. Again, put Agility on both your ranged weapons (only the one that's in the active slot contributes, so this way it doesn't matter), Familiarity on both your melee. and EWDB from Tatenashi.

>>14029197

Why familiarity dmg on both melle? I only keep second spear for Red Demon armor 2 piece set bonus (Spearfall dmg)

Is this playable on keyboard + mouse at all?

>>14029213

Because you should be using both your melee weapons in some capacity. Exactly what you use it for is your decision but just leaving it sit is kind of a waste.

>>14029219

Yes completely. You'll need to configure the keys yourself though

>>14029225

use umbracite

>>14029222

Neat, might as well pirate it then.

>>14029225

see

>>14029230

>>14029236

Elemental damage reduction is a rare attribute. You really need to Temper instead of Reforge but if you are too stupid to farm umbracite at least use Divine Fragments instead. You are just wasting your money trying with spirit iron

>>14029251

I did use Divines but I ran out. And how do you farm umbracite aside from twilight rewards? And one more thing, should I just reforge once and then try so see what i get for tempering, then reforge again and see if temper attributes reset?

>>14029258

Umbracite comes from Twilight Missions, Coop, The Abyss, and occasionally teahouse rewards. Farm Coop as much as possible.

As for how to use it, reforge once and check temper only helps if there are multiple slots that need tempering. Tempering results change when the slot you reforged conflicts with any of the results in the tempering list for another slot, however, it's impossible for a slot to conflict with itself

>>14029282

They also change for every slot whenever you temper any slot, of course.

>>14029270

that goes up to 29.9% iirc

>>14029287

Got it, thanks.

Does High Attack Damage attribute increase a High stance skill's dmg?

If yes, what about a skill that can be slotted in any stance; does it increase it's dmg when it's slotted in High stance?

>>14029350

I looked that one up myself a while back, the answer was no but they didn't sound too sure. Better to stick with Close Combat Damage increase anyway, as they are mutually exclusive

>>14025967

30% of the money go to steam, so buy TecmoKoei's stock instead

>>14029407

Tested: Stance damage (eg low attack damage +) DOES affect skills equipped to that stance, regardless of whether they are stance-specific skills or not. You simply need to be in that stance to gain the damage bonus.

It's still probably better to have close combat damage+. Maybe stance bonus damage might help if you are a ranged build of some form

>>14029449

And is this just for Attributes on gear or does it apply to Clan bonuses for example; there is a clan with 11% High stance dmg for spears.

>>14029458

Clan bonuses work the same. I'm not sure if the Clan bonus "Stance damage for spears" would apply to eg shuriken while a spear is equipped in high stance, but then again I haven't bothered to test if high stance damage applies to shuriken thrown from high stance anyway. That's just a maybe.

What are some good armor sets for sword only? Have been using warrior or the west since the first region I think. Mixing sets shouldn't really be a problem since I have been saving every piece that has a set bonus up to this point. Am looking for a set and sword that I can start soul matching since I haven't done that at all yet either. Recently beat hundred eyes and the first DLC boss but the other missions that opened up where you fight 2 of each boss are pushing my shit in. currently level 110. Also is it worth it to level up guardians or just keep focusing on my character? ALSO What are some good guardian combos? Have been using Kato exclusively.

>>14029542

>double boss fights

Old post-game bonus fights for people with nothing left to do but grind and grind and grind before the DLC came out. They're unreasonably hard on purpose.

>worth it to level up guardians

They get boosted pretty good, yeah. Just wait, though. If you rush to Way of the Demon or Way of the Wise by doing 10 sub-missions to unlock Queen's Eyes in each difficulty, you will start getting about 10 million amrita per kill on trash enemies. At that point you may as well just make it rain all over your guardians.

When I got to WotW I gained about 160 character levels in the first hour. It was pretty ridiculous.

>good guardian combos

Depends on what you're using as a weapon, your armor set, etc. Genbu's good for that elemental damage negation. Kato+Firehorse is a good combo for spear or odachi for that CCD + Thrust Damage. Just play around with combos and pay attention to the hilighted skill as well as the extra bonus in the box below it for the 2nd guardian.

>mixing sets

Get yourself a yasakani magatama if you don't already have one. Without that, mixing sets isn't worth the bother.

>>14029681

Thanks, will try some of this out.

When should I really invest in soul forging, reforging, etc. and keeping one set of gear? I just got to Way of the Demon and now all the gear is shooting up beyond 150 whereas I was using 150 + 5-7.

>>14029734

Whenever. Start now, it's all good.

Don't level up your current gear to the new caps, though, that will be crazy expensive. You should be able to make enough crafting materials and money as you go to grab fresh copies of your set as they drop at near-max levels and +levels and then just reforge/inherit what you need to replace your old shit.

Soul Matching can be stupidly expensive, so really honestly only use it for inheritance, or if you have no other option.

For example, in Way of the Wise, the level max becomes something like 200+50, and then in Way of the Nioh it becomes 250+150 or so. I have a feeling it gets even higher after beating WotN and going into the abyss proper, but I haven't gotten to that bit yet myself.

Those level jumps, though, will cost you billions of gold. Fucking billions. The soul match cost also increases the more you soul match a particular item, so yet another reason to only use it for inheritance and for reverse-matching onto freshly dropped gear.

Reforging, by comparison, is almost free.

>>14029429

Buy more gog lootboxes, faggot.

Nioh cant find my old save file, it just says New Game… What do?

>>14030920

If it's from a pirated version into a legit version or vice versa, I think you gotta open the save file in a hex editor and copy the top two lines from a legit save over the top two lines of the pirate save. I'm not 100% sure about the specifics, but it's something like that, you can probably find the specifics by searching this thread.

>>14031056

Top 3 lines, though there's a chance less might work.

>>14031233

plebs

>>14031233

There's some kind of shady shit going on lately. I've been seeing naked Level 1 revenants popping up in Way of the Nioh missions.

>>14031076

Only need to change four values on the first line for it to work.

10, 11, 12 and 13.

>>14030920

I used this guide for it when I did it

https://howfix (.) net/games/transfer-others-saves-nioh-complete-edition/

>>14032374

one of those was probably me, I'm trying a level 1 WOTN run.

It's… interesting but not that much harder than normal tbh

>>14030920

I figured out what happened bros. I was downloading something and my computer ran out of hard drive space while I was playing, so my save file got corrupted/erased . Learn from my mistakes :'(

>>14032525

Cool. I had to figure it out by trial and error so when I found that copying the first 3 lines worked I didn't really bother trying to figure out exactly which parts were necessary. I'm pretty sure the second line is identical in all versions, but I figured it might be version information or something so worth copying

ded

>>14037117

Don't listen to the other guy. You've been ignoring 80% of the mechanics purely because of luck and the game being easy and unbalanced enough to allow you to do so, but there's a world of combat depth to discover and take advantage of which makes the game so much more enjoyable and is the real core and point of Nioh. Start getting to grips with stances, you have three times the options you're using, and they can all be helpful in fights for getting smaller openings and evasion. Even dodges change based on stance, and you can move, sprint, dodge and attack very fast in general so you don't have to rely on a basic bait and strike playstyle which only makes breaking Ki harder. I assume you're not Ki Pulsing either, which is one of the most important and useful mechanics for letting you do more. Keep these in mind and practice them, don't assume just because you happened to beat something once that you're actively better.

>>14036858

does it say you are online on the map screen?

I just beat the wewuz samurai boss, what is a good place to farm amrita? I lost a couple of million a couple of times like a dumbass and now I'm about 30 levels behind.

>>14040163

Farm in coop. There's no risk of losing it and you get a lot of amrita if they succeed.

>>14038379

What's the problem? Of course your dual swords show higher damage, you have more Heart than Skill.

>>14040163

Don't. If you need levels you'll probably get it for killing like 2 enemies on the next mission. Don't bother trying to farm Amrita ever.

Co-op isn't a bad idea though, you can farm Umbracite there.