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>>13989610

>Soon there won't be a single reason left to run Windows 10.

There isn't a single reason now dingus.

Vulkan is better

>>13989610

>dx12 is shit!

<b-but WINE is adding dx12 support guys isn't that great? :^)

>now they're stuck with a shit OS that doesn't like older games.

<wine makes map scrolling in old RTS games turbo fast

Too bad nobody uses DX12 efficiently.

Then again, nobody uses Linux either. :^)

>>13989654

The Wii had exclusives that sucked dick and that doesn't stop Dolphin from supporting them in the name of complete and accurate-ish Wii emulation, why should a Windows compatibility layer be any different?

>>13989633

>I waste dubs and can't read the OP properly

don't go wasting that (you) all in one place, y'hear

loonix is for autists.

Windows 7 with selective updates is best.

>>13989863

You know the TOP500, the list of the world's 500 most powerful computers? Guess how many of them run Linux.

>just a few

>about half

>most of them

The answer: ALL OF THEM

>rushing to add new features

>still doesn't support ancient ones

gamers ruined cemu and now they'll ruin wine.

>>13989898

How many of those computers are being used to play video games?

None you fucking retard

Do you even know why Linux is used for Super Computing?

>>13989948

Because it's very reliable, very flexible, and very cheap.

>>13989803

I'm not the one with a literacy issue, kiddo.

>>13989654

>dx12 suck dicks

Nobody said that. Direct 3D before 12 is generally a shitty mess, but 12 itself is basically Windows Vulkan, but slightly worse (while still being better than OpenGL). The only thing that sucks dicks about Direct X 12 is platform lock-in.

>>13989957

"cheap" doesn't even enter the equation for multi-million dollar pieces of hardware.

>>13990026

You clearly haven't seen the pricing style M$ applies to license for units with many physical CPUs.

>>13989957

>linux is used for super computers because its cheap

Nigger, Linux is used because it's the most open platform for development, and all of its source is readily available to be modified. So companies spend millions of dollars on a super computer so they can then pay programmers to develop systems and programs to run specifically for that machine.

This is also the biggest barrier keeping it from having widespread end user adoption because without a central design standard than it's difficult to market normalfags. The only reason Android Linux is so widespread is because Google is maintaining a central standard that all the target devices need to be able to support.

Does Wine even have good dx11 support yet? Last I knew, it was pretty experimental and not so good.

>>13989863

Windows 7 still has surveillance, you nigger. You might as well go to Windows 3.1 if you want to be free of the alphabets

>http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey/directx/

>last month 6% of Microsoft users moved from Windows 10 to 7

>in 4 months Windows 10 user share has decreased from 50% to 20%

>>13990108

That's not people falling for 10 then scrambling back, that's people getting auto-updated and rolling back their system.

>>13990071

>literally a meme

>literally

Linux is "literally" an operating system kernel. Learn English.

Can we all talk about the animated .png instead?

>>13990124

no, sleepy maid is shit.

>>13989898

Oh gee, I'm so jealous I cannot monitor NASA satelites on my home computer now!

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX. Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>13990124

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apng

>>13990148

Reminder that you cannot disable ads in Windows 10 at all

>>13990150

Lying isn't nice to do.

>>13990157

Post a screenshot of your privacy setting you good goy

http://pxc-coding.com/portfolio/donotspy10/

Advertising

Apps

Defender

Edge

Privacy

Search

Start

Updates

I'm probably gonna play with linux until I feel satisfied with using it but for now I'm on W10 with this and it's not too bad at face value. Probably don't have full privacy even with that, vpn, and browser extensions though.

>>13990166

>Advertising: Disable and Reset Advertising ID

>Advertising: Disable App Suggestions in Windows Ink Workspace

>Advertising: Disable Bluetooth Advertising

>Advertising: Disable Start Menu App Suggestions

>people paid for this

>>13990176

If you pay for software for any reason other than to support the devs I don't know what to tell you.

>>13990183

I meant people paid for windows 10 only to be served advertisements.

>>13989610

I hope it's a D3D12-Vulkan wrapper.

3dfx did nothing wrong

>>13990183

>he needs to buy anti-spyware and anti-ads for his computer

holy fuck, you are retarded, why

>>13990163

>thinking any OS is safe

Did you code it yourself? If not, your compromised. I'm at least aware of who's stealing my information.

>>13990190

Yes because the general public are all retards that don't care enough about technology rights and just want to be served shit. Apple is a better example even.

>>13990198

I didn't buy shit retard

>Wangblows updated my win 7 machine to 10 without asking

>it has now decided my windows key is invalid and is stuck in a limited state

>Recently been threatened that it will try and install Windows 10 S or some shit like that if I won't register

>This news

Goddamn I'm glad I pirated shitdows for my gaming computer

>>13989610

>Soon there won't be a single reason left to run Windows

never heard that before.

>>13989642

I want to fuck that smug.

>>13990217

Any Ubuntu flavour.

>dose not know what memetics are*

>>13990224

New rule: If you haven't read the selfish gene you are not allowed to talk about memes

Also shout out to windows for outsourcing so hard to India that their entire OS is now ransomware

>>13990217

>>13990228

Linux Mint, it's got the best GUI of any distro I've ever gotten into, plus it's still got APT and everything else that makes Ubuntu easy to use. Ubuntu kind of went out the window for me since Unity became the default GUI, and every other flavor started to feel like someone desperately trying to make the OS X desktop into Windows 7.

>>13990238

The entire OS is not only randomware, it's bloatware, it's adware, it's spyware. The only thing it's missing is getting its development dropped entirely and becoming abandonware after everyone flips the bird and moves onto a better alternative like a proper Linux distro like debian or ubuntu with their better UIs and open source software that's constantly being updated.

>>13990253

Until I work up the fucks to back everything up to portable media and install a distro

>>13990226

Anon, that's a /monster/ Shoggoth. She's more likely to fuck the smug out of you, using every appendage she has at her disposal, and every hole you have at yours.

Also does Vegas Pro work on Linux?

>>13990257

Terry really needs to lay off the Meth.

There's something I don't understand about Linux, from the prespective of someone who uses pcs solely for browsing, vidya and the occasional cadence software.

Is there a point to switching to a new OS, vidya wise, if all you're going to do is emulate windows through Wine? Is the performance better, is it more convienent somehow, etc?

I'm honestly open to trying out a new os and I want a reason to switch.

>>13990283

Wine is not an emulator

>>13990067

>Windows 7 has surveillance

Proofs? People were pretty thorough with spotting which updates were pozzed.

>>13990287

Then what is it? Excuse my ignorance.

>>13990253

I wanna fuck CE

>>13990297

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wine_(software)

Wine (recursive backronym for Wine Is Not an Emulator) is a free and open-source compatibility layer that aims to allow computer programs (application software and computer games) developed for Microsoft Windows to run on Unix-like operating systems. Wine also provides a software library, known as Winelib, against which developers can compile Windows applications to help port them to Unix-like systems.[7]

>>13990313

So the E stands for emulator, but it's not an emulator. Guess I've got brain problems.

Still I want to know if there's an advantage to it, from a purely vidya prespective.

>>13990296

there where updates to windows 7 that introduced spyware. If you avoid updating win 7 you should be theoretically ok. This is the list I have saved atm to watch out for.

Do not install:

kb3075249

kb3080149

kb3068708

kb2976978

kb2976978

kb3035583

kb2952664

KB2505438

KB2670838 – Windows 7 Only (breaks AERO functionality and gives you blurry fonts on some websites)

KB2952664

KB3021917

KB3035583

KB3075249

KB3022345

KB3075249

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Redundant list

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KB2506928

KB2545698

KB2592687

KB2660075

KB2726535

KB2876229

KB2923545

KB2952664

KB2970228

KB2990214

KB2994023

KB3021917

KB3022345

KB3035583

KB3050265

KB3065987

KB3068708

KB3075249

KB3080149

>>13990283

Linux is somewhat on the Bleeding Edge of non-proprietary graphics and hardware updates, which could actually mean something if we saw more commercial games go completely cross-platform.

As it is now, what it basically means is that if you're building a Rig specifically to play Autism Blocks with all the Shaders and Fluid Physics and Particles on, using a 1024px resource packs, Linux will take that level of optimization just that much further with the best Java and Memory Allocation.

>>13990067

Win7 does not have surveillance if you make a clean install of Win7 enterprise and disable Windows Update and everything related to it before even allowing it to connect to the internet. Blocking micro$hit's IPs and servers is also an elegant solution that Win7 lets you do by default with host files though it's much better to do this at the Router level, and means micro$hit can't do jackshit to you.

>>13990319

The advantage is that you can play nearly all your windows games on linux natively without having to make a virtual machine for win XP or win 7 at the minimum of hardware expense possible.

>>13990283

WINE is a compatibility layer. Windows uses the same technology to maintain reverse compatibility when necessary. (And doing a shit job of it.)

>>13990295

I did no such thing. I think you're both retards.

And the sophists did nothing wrong.

>>13990296

If you think Windows was only capable of spying on you since the W10 telemetry updates, I've got some bad news for you.

>>13990124

Back in my day we had .mng and we liked it!

>>13990350

>I did no such thing

sometimes one forgets to pay attention to ID's. Why are you butting your big Jewish nose into others people conversions?

>>13990350

I'm aware they've put out sketchy updates before the win10 updates; people included those updates when saying which ones to watch out for.

>>13990322

Thank you anon. I shouldn't have any of those installed but I'll doublecheck, this will be useful.

Saved

>>13990322

>>13990343

>avoid updating win 7

Now you'll only need to worry about everyone else getting into your system through some font vulnerability or whatever ridiculous exploit they've patched recently. But at least you kept MS out.

Speaking of which, how well does Wine run things?

>>13990380

I'm talking specifically about those updates. If you think you can block those and suddenly you're safe from prying eyes, think again. Microsoft isn't a PRISM partner for nothing.

>>13990382

Intel chipsets all secretly running Minix?

http://www.zdnet.com/article/minix-intels-hidden-in-chip-operating-system/

>>13990389

Still waiting on proofs

>>13990287

>>13990313

Wine is an emulator, it's just not only an emulator. It's not a hardware emulator, but it is an emulator, which is understood to be a piece of software that enables a computer system to behave like and run software designed for a different computer system. Translating system calls and presenting a virtual Windows filesystem to the software is emulation. People get confused because they see "emulator" and immediately assume hardware emulation; this is the whole reason the Wine people avoid the moniker.

I'd agree with wine being "not an emulator" if it was simply a reimplementation of win32 and directX, but the fact that it translates system calls in-flight and presents a full virtual filesystem to hosted applications makes it clearly an emulator. Saying "when people say 'emulator', they usually mean 'hardware emulator'" doesn't actually change the meaning of the word or assert that emulation can only refer to hardware emulation, it only points out that people make an assumption.

I understand the avoidance of the name "emulator" in the Wine project, but it's only correct if you are pedantic enough to examine the specific functioning of Wine but still not pedantic enough to look at the actual definition of the word "emulation".

>>13990388

It really depends on the things. The answer is "you have to run it to see". Frequently you have to do settings customization per program, especially video games. For a lot of games and programs, it'll run them about the same. Some will have errors, crashes, slowdown, or sync issues.

>>13990391

>What's the solution? Well, it's not "Switch to AMD chips". Once, AMD chips didn't have this kind of mystery code hidden inside it, but even the latest Ryzen processors are not totally open. They include the AMD platform security process and that's also a mysterious black box.

What the fuck do I do then?

>>13989948

>How many of those computers are being used to play video games?

>None you fucking retard

Apparently there's a couple people who play vidya on supercomputers and send benchmarks to Linux porters for shits and giggles.

>>13990399

Ubuntu uses Gnome now and KDE 5 is somehow lighter than Gnome 3. If you want a bloated DE, KDE at least gives you shittons of functionality and customization with that bloat instead of Gnome 3's faux minimalism and bad design choices.

>>13990399

tl;dr: install gentoo?

>>13990130

>>13990124

>mistaking zko for slepymaid

>>13990394

If you're here for proofs, you've come to the wrong place. I came here looking for ANY evidence that the WINE team is working on DX12 and it still has not been posted. I'm not going to spoonfeed you on this. NSA's had its fingers all over Microsoft since NT.

>>13990453

nice

>>13990416

Either give up and realize that the CIA watches you watching hentai no matter what you do or start saving up for a silicon foundry of your very own.

>>13990453

>Banasonic

:DDDD

>Wine starts working on DX12 support anyhow

That's been known for awhile now. Games using DX9 and 10 already work really well.

>>13990398

Translating system calls isn't emulation.

>>13990217

How does windows 7 support ending effect you?

>>13990488

Or you use a 10 year old 4banger pentium piece of shit that can't even run crysis because it's the last bastion of privacy in the technological world.

Seriously. Fuck modern reality, we're getting close to living like Worst Korea in their goddamn Shadowrun-tier city module where everything gets spied on.

>>13990416

If you're really privacy conscious and have shekels to spare, order a Talos 2 workstation in January. They're not great for vidya now because there's pretty much no software compiled for POWER9, but the performance is ridiculously good and if enough autists adopt the platform people will start supporting it I'll probably make POWER9 builds of my shit regardless.

>>13990589

>there's pretty much no software compiled for POWER9

Compatibility layers and VMs.

GPU passthrough on a POWER9 would be pretty insane, plus you shouldn't be running insecure programs on your host OS.

>>13990483

Sounds bullshit. I can trust Intel more because they put the ME on the northbridge, not on the CPU itself.

>>13990216

>>>/apng/

>>13990224

>Linux is literally a name which is by proxy a word

>fuck your pedantry sophist

irony.jpeg

>a word is a single distinct meaningful element of speech or writing

The definition of what constitutes a "word" is actually highly contentious among linguists. Perhaps you were referring to a morpheme?

>dose not know what memetics

Try again, and this time, use your English-as-a-second-language textbook.

>>13989898

That has to do with flexibility and features on a level that's irrelevant to personal computing. It doesn't matter.

t. freetard who hasn't run windows in years

>>13990398

Taking a spanish class and translating spanish into english isn't "emulating" spanish.

>>13990853

Just install a Linux distro, one without systemd.

>>13990895

I think an interpreter mediating communication with someone who speaks a different language could be said to emulate.

>>13990853

Why are you using Win10?

https://github.com/zeffy/wufuc

>>13990921

It'd only be emulation if he was inside you running on your organs.

>>13990853

Windows 7 actually works fine on Ryzen aside from the occasional nagging, but you are gonna have to jump through a few hoops to set it up. Fortunately having a second older PC will help you a lot.

>>13990921

Emulation is implementing a system's hardware in an abstract way via software. Don't talk about shit you don't know about.

>>13990895

Running a software that translates MIPS into x86 isn't "emulating" MIPS.

>>13990853

Install temple OS

>>13990947

>just having a switch is complitcated

What?

>>13990930

nagging what nagging like hey upgrade kinda of nagging?

would it be simple enough to just clone my ssd onto another one and plug that in and go?

>>13990947

Also use Wine with gallium 9 you nigger.

>>13990322

>>13990380

checked

This script will remove any that you do have installed. https://gist.github.com/xvitaly/eafa75ed2cb79b3bd4e9

>>13990382

Well yeah, that's why you update to linux and use windows exclusively for vidya

>>13990416

The AMD FX series doesn't have it last I checked. If you absolutely have to have the latest BEEFY GAYMEN RIG you can use it for vidya only and keep your old hardware for your non kosher shitposting

>>13990488

>giving up and submitting to kikery is better than using old hardware

i wonder who could be behind this post

>>13990947

>I just want my comfy linux ricefaggotry and my vidya without having to reboot and lose one or the other

That's what the PCI passthrough meme is for. Most people report the performance being pretty much the same as running windows natively. The GPU has a very noticeable bottleneck on my setup for some reason though, and I still haven't figured out why.

>>13990957

they get expensive if you don't want to use VGA.

>>13990947

>nearly non-existant DX11 support

Still complete enough to run a decent amount of DX11 games and stuff like Nier: Automata.

>>13991055

>Have I just been living under a fucking rock?

Yes, you have been. Wine works pretty well now, it's just that nobody has bothered to update the compatibility lists, so it seems like it's shit when it's not really the case.

>>13990980

Can you explain how passthrough relates to drivers for the system you're hypervisor'ing? I got a new GPU recently specifically with the intent to passthrough and finally delete my Windows XP partitions, but now I'm wondering if it can even be used for what I wanted to use it, because AMD has zero 32-bit drivers. Do I have to use my modern, powerful GPU as a dummy passthrough device and use the old GPU natively? That seems inconvenient as fuck, I'll probably need to reboot between every time I want to run native linux games (on the new GPU) or do Windows gaming (on the old GPU).

>>13991078

Why not use a Linux VM to play Linux games withe the passed through GPU?

>>13991055

Yeah, the DX11 support is in surprisingly good shape and it's progressing quickly. You can run a lot of newer games on it and even stuff like The Witcher 3 is playable with some rendering glitches here and there.

Also, early on Nier: Automata rendered but with broken bloom and invisible bullets. Some absolute madman then went ahead and did a complete playthrough, dodging invisible bullet patterns just to prove the game was fully beatable for his Wine compatibility report.

>>13991102

Because it's a GPU from 2006 and I'm actually enjoying the things my powerful new GPU lets me do, such as emulate Gamecube games.

>>13991078

I'm pretty sure you can actually rebind the drivers on the fly before the the VM starts and after it's terminated so it shouldn't be a problem.

>>13990399

>>13990217

Try OpenSUSE Leap If you're completely new

>4.7GB install DVD

DVD comes with most of the shit you would want in the repos as well as your pick of KDE, Gnome3 all beautified and skinned, XFCE, MATE and LXDE are also on disc but they're stock themes.

>YaST

So this is basically Control Panel. Most everything you could ever want to do with a machine running SuSE you can pretty much set it up from here

It won't hold your hand but I've been able to roll out a custom router, DHCP and DNS servers as well as a virtualization box hosting a few dedicated game servers on a VM just with poking around a few menus. The firewall is easily configurable as well.

>SuSE 1-click installs

Yeah so grabbing shit off the repos can be done thru yast, via command line by zypper or just going onto the suse website and clicking "Install"

The only real downside is that SuSE isn't Fedora or Ubuntu so you may find some whiz-bang thing on the interwebs may not have a package built specifically for it. Does use .RPMs however so if someone coded it for RHEL it's probably already been ported over.

>>13990600

You don't know how VMs work do you?

>>13990108

You can thank China for that, it's mostly Chinese using 7 instead of 10.

>>13990217

Just install Ubuntu and call it a day.

A lot of people will probably suggest to you their favorite distro but I will tell you why Ubuntu is all around okay.

>Large userbase = large support and chance that any issue you face has already been encountered and documented

>Not so far downstream from Debian compared to Mint

>Software isn't that outdated

>Stable enough for everyday use, most likely has drivers for your hardware out of the box

>Freedom to choose DE with Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Budgie.

>>13991346

>Freedom to choose DE with Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Ubuntu, Xubuntu and Ubuntu Budgie.

Fedora does this too with the spins, and it's really dumb. What's even worse its an entire preconfigured system. They figure the reason you want XFCE over Cinnamon is because your computer is from 1876, so Ubuntu gets Firefox while Xubuntu gets Midori. You can install Firefox but you're tearing apart the freshly installed system rather then just telling it what you wanted on install.

Also enjoy that Ubuntu ONE account to use the damn software center. It's why I quit using that distro.

>>13991453

>Also enjoy that Ubuntu ONE account to use the damn software center

Whatever that actually is, it doesn't exist on either Xubuntu or Lubuntu. The new "Software Center" program they've replaced the Ubuntu Software Center with on Xubuntu though is fucking shit, even worse than the original Ubuntu Software Center. Lubuntu has its own little separate Lubuntu Software Center which is kind of interesting. You don't need to use either of those however. Just use Synaptic if you need a GUI to manage the apt package system.

>>13991346

>not just using debian

>>13990108

i helped two people reinstall the original os on their laptops because they accidentally updated. it's kind of irritating that windows 10 provides a rollback option but it doesn't work at all.

>>13991485

>Whatever that actually is

Alright Storytime:

So way back in Ubuntu 9ish Canonical decided they wanted to have an app store, where you can buy indie bullshit and music with money. So around this time Steam came to Linux officially with Ubuntu being the target distro and official support from Cannoical etc.

So Steam wasn't in the distros, it had a PPA just for it, and you got that by 'buying' Steam for $0 on the Ubuntu App Store, which required a Ubuntu ONE account and the usual bullshit.

So after seeing Cannonical pull a Microsoft I jumped ship, Haven't touched or recommended that shit since.

Thinking about dropping windows entirely and learn wine. I'm running Mint 17.3 because no systemd and am using the latest stable version of wine. Is it better to use the development version? Because the one game I have that boots into game crashes. And would the games run better on a newer distro? I'm thinking about installing Devuan.

>>13990399

I want it to look like w95 what do?

>>13991504

Debian stable software is outdated.

Debian unstable is unstable.

Debian doesn't work 'out of the box' and requires someone to be interested in learning about Linux and the command line or have some free time to get anywhere from installing drivers, configuring the system, etc.

and in the case a casual user breaks something, it's gonna end up with a bad taste and going back to Windows.

>>13991504

>>13991560

but that's not saying Debian isn't good. Debian netinstall is one of the best I've tried.

No bloat

Everything working as you want it to

but you need the time and patience to learn and configure stuff

>>13990201

>Apple is a better example even.

Microsoft has made Apple a weaker example with Windows 10, because even Apple doesn't have the balls to put ads in the OS X finder or force a tablet interface on their desktops and laptops, none of which use a touch screen. OS X is also easier to set up and use than the other two and has personally sunk my overall technological bullshit tolerance to an all-time low.

The only thing Microsoft has copied from Apple is higher prices, but what they'll learn in about five years is that people don't spend extra for Microsoft the same way they'll spend extra for a BMW, or a bottle of Heineken, or business class seats on a Delta flight, or an iPhone X.

>>13990217

Mint is the best of them all, but triple check that all of your devices work, because even brand-name graphics cards, printers, and network equipment might need something from some asscrack of the internet compiled on your machine with some other thing from another asscrack of the internet.

>>13991525

There is and has always been a .deb to install Steam, since the earliest beta release targeting Ubuntu 12.04. It's not really Canonical's fault that you don't know how to use its Debian-based distro.

>>13991702

Last I tried Mint it had a horrendous multiarch bug attempting to resolve dependencies; this resulted in apt just outright shitting itself when asked to install something requiring 32bit libs.

>>13991705

I followed the manual to the letter;

>1: Install something else.

Why didn't anybody ask OP for sauce…

>>13991796

Because most people are smart enough to find things on their own.

>>13991814

That's not how discussions work.

>>13991555

Gaming in wine seems to be always a hit and miss.

Just check wine's appdb and experiment from there.

>>13989927

It's not about that actually. I noticed that when they in one release fixed their testcases to 100% coverage literally EVERYTHING worked. Then of course on the next version and next version everything was back to shit again.

They know wine can work perfectly but they choose to not have it work perfectly because they need a reason for people to buy their commercial product…

This was literally years ago btw. Wine could have worked perfectly years ago… Someone who gives a shit and has the mettle should really have forked them a million years ago.

>>13990932

Not true at all. Emulation is software that allows one platform to run software written for another platform, regardless of hardware details. "emulate" is to "imitate", in the way of reproducing the functionality. There is hardware emulation and API emulation.

If what you said was true, than XBox One emulation and PS4 emulation on PC wouldn't be "emulation" at all, because you are only emulating the software platform. NES emulation on an Apple II could be considered "not emulation" because it's the same processor. It's all semantics anyway, as "emulation" isn't a specific technology the way virtualization is; it's a high-level term for a concept. I say this as a programmer who has written functioning console emulators (writing an emulator for NES or Gameboy is admittedly pretty simple) and contributed to others. Don't talk about shit you don't know about.

>>13991889

why u have to do dis? i was only going to make one post and didn't even check the thread much and now your juvenile antics have left me in an uncomfortable position.

>>13991967

you glow in the dark

>>13991990

You should fix the testcases programmer guy!

>>13989610

ANIMATED PNG???=

MORE LIKE THIS

>>13991856

It's what I do. I have all the dlls installed but the game runs like shit and crashes.

>>13989635

Is it even possible to fix this shit somehow?

On Dark Colony when I use Wine 1.0.0 the map scrolling speed is ok but the sound is totally messed up, I tried using the cpulimiter program and it doesn't fixes anything at all it makes infact worse such as choppy sounds. Dark Reign 1 has the same problem and I can't get KKnD 1 to start a skirmish battle, despite I added the CD directory for the virtual drives which is mounted via a iso file.

DirectX abstraction layer in WINE now!

>>13989610

DX11 only has a handful of good games, dx12 will probably go its lifetime without a single good game.

Welcome to the future.

>>13992620

>1.0

That's some ancestral shit, WINE is at 2.23 now.

Which one is better, Gallium 9 or Staging?

>>13992758

I tried even Wine 2.22 and the problem is still there.

>>13992762

Gallium nine for dx9 games on free drivers, staging otherwise.

>>13992752

h-hey at least I can play really old console games from 15 years ago thanks to dx11.

>>13992787

No DX11 renderer in any emulator is worth using now OGL/DX9 always end up being better in one way or another.

>>13990980

>Well yeah, that's why you update to linux and use windows exclusively for vidya

what do you use linux for then? cp and hacking the government?

>>13989654

>>13989633

Assmad Microshills are SEETHING. Vulkan is still better you queers, but it's nice still have you cuckolds by the balls. Enjoy being spied on.

>>13992846

Why don't you show us some benchmarks then, there's at-least one or two games that support both DX12 and Vulkan, hell just show us DX11 vs Vulkan, should have no problem beating the old one right?

>>13992879

>like the brain can somehow make your nerves more sensitive

A huge part of sensitivity is the processing of signals. Becoming more sensitive on command might be dumb but becoming more sensitive because of something your brain does isn't.

>>13989625

And Vulkan is being open-sourced.

>>13989898

Really? No Power* or Solaris? No generic unix variants?

>>13993061

Their perception is what matters. Just because you're not falling off a cliff like in your dream doesn't mean you can't feel a bit shaken when you suddenly jolt awake.

>>13989863

Why would you use 7 when 10 is literally superior in every way?

>>13993867

>(((b9c0f0)))

still wont even run some dx9 or 10 games and 90% of dx11 games dont even run, so much hype

>>13993879

I don't understand this reason for not using the superior turd.

>>13993848

Linux ate all the other Nixes. The IBM systems run Linux variants, too.

>>13992573

>>>/apng/

>>13990277

>Implying

Shogs would probably let you fuck them however you want. in MGE after awhile they absorb their lover. Like the Mindflayer however the husband of the shoggy can reform under his own influence.

>>13993959

>moving to linux to use appleshit

>>13993962

You mis-read, anon. I barely do anything on macOS, that's mainly used because I really like Final Cut Pro X. I mainly wanted a platform-agnostic share for ROMs and ISOs so I could play on any computer and easily share games.

Too bad I still can't get Wine to run DirectX9 games properly. Just yesterday I was trying to play The Ship with wine and it would crash every time I tried to join the server.

>>13993906

Unless its big iron, zOS is still custom, I think Linux on systemz is still a thing.

>>13989610

Yeah enjoy your broken games your 15% perfomance and your useless life time wasted while my LTSB just werks

>>13989654

I wonder who could be behind this post.

Okay what's the good reason to switch from win10 to mint without mentioning muh botnet.

I'm asking unironically i'm willing to do it if it actually has some advantages. I use pc to play games mostly.

>>13994079

did not see >>13990283 earlier, soz

>>13990277

>Shoggoth

No that's just a cosplaying human

>>13994172

It just works, right up until you need to change a sound card driver. Or play a game. Or interface with a Windows network.

>Try to make Hotline Miami GOG work, but it doesnt start, and I see that perhaps is that library missing, but in synaptic, I dont know what to install.

installed Hotline Miami 2, and it works…but then sooner or later it freezes, and it doesnt even gives error, so I cant even close it sometimes and have to force restart the pc.

What do I do? Using Wine Staging with gallium 9, and I tried multiple options in winecfg. Perhaps is the libraries part, where I should a library in specific?

>>13991117

If a studio published a game where you couldn't see a vital game element you would be calling it completely broken. But if it's on Linux it works if it doesn't crash?

>>13993981

I suggest that more people do what Carmack did: release the software as proprietary, and when its "old-hat", release the source code. There's nothing intrinsically wrong with proprietary software: Stallman is just autistic.

>>13994199

>using wine on hotline miami 2

You do know HM2 has a native port to Linux, right?

>>13989898

>You know the TOP500, the list of the world's 500 most powerful computers?

>TOP500

>all running linux

kek'd at all of those old as piss IBMs re-purposed to rot in linux hell doing theoretical work while the new system Zs do actual work.

>>13994262

Post a link then, because torrents there is one, but in forever loading metadata mode.

And what for the first one? And even if there are linux port, doesnt excuse that wine shouldnt make these game works.

>>13994079

If all you care about is web browsing and gaems, not much. There are less games and wine does not work as well as people want you to think (or at least something is weird with my computer because my experience with it has been horrendous. ymmv i guess). Linux has some nice stuff. Package managers make getting software you want and staying up to date a lot easier, it's generally more secure, and it's not a gigantic monolithic mess like Windows so it will boot up faster and generally run better.

Are there any good games, released or announced, that use DX12?

The only game that looks good and is backWindows 10 only is that one racing game.

w7 best windows, I'll just stick with it, then go to linux once it becomes too stale.

>>13989610

Source?

>>13994319

I think you meant to suggest Inferno, friendo.

>>13993061

>Eh it just feels fake. Your brain might process higher sensitivity but your actual nerves aren't.

Your nerves actually have a far higher capacity to send pain and pleasure signals then you normally receive on a regular basis. All the brain needs to do is change the composition of chemicals in the synapse to change and adjust nerve sensitivity. And yes it has the power to do that. That said changing the brain to either simply be addicted with addiction pathways to specific inputs or otherwise ohow it processes input without affecting the nerves is more realistic because hypersensitivity in the nerves would create a whole lot of unpleasant problems for the person affected plus the orgasms would actually become boring and it'd lose it's effectiveness within about a month or so.

>>13989610

>spyware

What processor is your computer running? Because if it's an Intel processor made after 1986 or an AMD processor made after 2002 then the CIA is already spying on you.

How about someone give an example of what DX12 can do that DX11 or 10 couldn't achieve? I only remember when DX9.0c was in PC gaming with call of duty 1/2, and little things were noticeable within the map, like lighting inside buildings.

What's 12 going to make games feel like? The 12 meme has been spun since like 2012 probably, why has it been stuck on dx11/12?

>>13992879

The fetish is shit because hypnotism does not work the way its adherent's think it does. They saw a Vegas show and figured it meant you could make a woman do things she would not otherwise do (like ever have sex with them) by virtue of some spinning disk. Just use handwaive magic, you fags.

>>13995181

So far the dx12 propaganda I've seen is mainly talking about how it performs better and uses less CPU resources.

Except switching to loonix does the same thing and doesn't spy on you as a nice little bonus.

>>13995187

Vanilla is an unrealistic fetish in this day and age too.

>>13995185

but don't you porn addicted faggots have a board for that type of autism? For example can you take it back to >>>/hypno/ ??? Or something?

>>13995187

If you want mind control stuff, just use mind control like normal people. I am saying it is silly the way it is otherwise portrayed now.

>>13995178

Not my post, I'm not that crazy. I hadn't looked at the screencap in a while and forgot how big a nut that namefag was.

>>13995181

Most of DX12 and Vulkan's new stuff is giving the graphics programmer direct control over stuff the driver used to manage. So many new possibilities and potential for optimization is there that vidya devs aren't really sure what to do with it yet.

>>13995219

I actually meant to smugpost but attached the wrong file. 8chan's upload section used to show a thumbnail but I think it's broken now so I didn't catch my mistake until it was too late.*

Steam should offer downloads for "unsupported" games on loonix already, having to install steam twice is kinda bothersome and only introduces more points of failure

>>13995219

Not at all a priority but they could indeed try to mix it up a bit

>>13995225

So basically it'll never catch on for many reasons, one being most programmers aren't smart enough / can't be trusted to utilize anything to make their game optimized.

I'll switch when Direct X 11 support is near finished and works with every modern game

>>13995254

To make the best use of something like Vulkan, you have to design your engine around it instead of bolting it onto your existing OpenGL or Direct3D engine. You can still make performance gains by adding it to an existing engine if you know your shit (nuDoom is a good example) but it's still hard work and graphics programmers are still stuck with a certain mindset from years of working with Direct3D and a little OpenGL.

>>13995300

Now this I can fap to.

>>13989610

Did John Flynt draw that?

Congrats to the 3 linux gamers who will appreciate this development.

>>13995581

-the swivel chair would be stationary

-strafing left and right would might be controlled by the same foot peddle/analog by swiveling it left and right.

>>13995593

>>13995581

oh shit wrong thread

>>13995198

>/hypno/

>a board filled with only faggots that want to hypnotize themselves into even bigger faggots

No, there is no board for people who get off on hypnotizing cute girls. And it fucking sucks.

Sage for off-topic

>only use DX12 for one game total warhammer

>Don't see any difference besides a huge drop in fps

Fuck your DX12

>>13995207

I once had to install a pirated version of Rosetta Stone on my dad's Macbook and he paid me $20. I thought that was an odd deed.

>>13990953

>Implying I'm not offering any and all dubs to the Lord God on Temple OS right now.

How does Call Of Chernobyl run with Wine? If it ran fine, I'd ditch windows right now.

>>13989898

>people who get paid millions every year to be autists can afford to deal with this shit

Good for them. Me, I'd rather not have to spend days getting basic functionality out of my computer, and have programs that actually work on it natively. Doesn't help that linuxfags are muh secret autistic club that scoffs at the notion of having actual guides for how to get shit done, and that nobody can agree on what distro to use, instead just screaming "NOO YOUR DISTRO IS SHIT MINE IS WAY BETTER"

>>13995111

>feels like acting

This was done.

https://exhentai.org/g/1120774/49d424c0f5/

>>13990217

Avoid MINT.

If you were going to use MINT for KDE try Kubuntu, if you were going to use MINT for MATE try Ubuntu MATE. No idea about cinnamon.

Ubuntu in general is a shit distro that you should avoid but it's the best entry level distro because it's the only one made for entry level users.

Is there a systemd free Ubuntu distro?

>>13996991

https://appdb.winehq.org/objectManager.php?sClass=version&iId=30554

This is from last year, I don't know how it runs on newer versions. The wine appdatabase is hit or miss.

>>13990054

What's keeping it from being adopted is that almost every computer ships with Windows installed and most people don't know what an OS even is or that you can change it.

>>13997940

>Is there a systemd free Ubuntu distro?

You probably don't have a good reason to care about systemd yet if you need to ask that.

It really doesn't matter until you need to interact with it.

>>13990483

>3.2

Never fucking happened, and the 3.5 was an anomaly. As always, AMD fags ignore team red's fuckups and exagerate team Green's.

>>13993848

I would just like to interject for a moment, Vulkan is not software, but rather a specification describing theoretical software that meets the requirements of the specification. You can pay money and have any software you produce that follows this specification certified as a valid implementation by Khronos. This specification is "Open" in that anyone can read it on Khronos's website. However, an implementation of Vulkan does not have to be "Open Source" or any other license, as this is up to the discretion of the copyright holder. Thus, an Nvidia driver certified by Khronos as a standards-compliant implementation of Vulkan will still be closed source.

>>13998171

Forza, I think that's all.

>>13996423

>>Don't see any difference besides a huge drop in fps

And M$hills still think that DX12 is worth the price of Winblows 10

>get a laptop for work

>comes with W10

>also has a i5-8250UUUU and an MX150

>try Hitman™©® for shits and giggles

>DX12

>25fps and lower throughout the benchmark

>DX11

>60-45fps

Bring on the Vulkan revolution

Many games that should work in Wine have problems…perhaps it have to do with the library part in winecfg? What libraries should I generally add to an application? Any advice that I should know? Using Wine staging+Gallium 9.

>>13998531

wine has always been a clusterfuck. if it doesn't work look at the wine app db and do what it says there if there is anything.

>>13998237

If only it were that simple, the thing is that Vulkan is not a drop-in API any more than DX12 is. Upgrading from DX10 to DX11 was a pretty simple change, but changing from DX11 to either Vulkan or DX12 requires major rewrites to be useful. Changing the renderer to DX12 without actually changing the way that the GPU is managed is the problem with your FPS woes there.

Remember, DX12 and Vulkan are supposed to be able to take advantage of unlinked GPUs (no need for SLI or Crossfire). But you've yet to see any games that really do this because companies are still writing their Vulkan games as if they're OpenGL or DX11.

You're looking at years before someone uses either API to its peak effectiveness. And then when they do, prepare to watch the whole fucking thing get bogged down with mindless bullshit by sycophants who think it's acceptable to ship 100gb install sizes for the sake of uncompressed audio.

>>13998171

Every single xbox 1 game available on PC.

Except not a single one of them is good. Whoops.

>>13998702

>companies are still writing their Vulkan games as if they're OpenGL or DX11.

most companies aren't writing their games at all anymore.

Unity and Unreal Engine just need to improve their support and then the games will follow

>>13997940

http://without-systemd.org/wiki/index.php/Main_Page

Currently on Gentoo, they added an eselect to switch on the fly between stable, staging, D3D and other builds of WINE and i'm having a blast with all the stuff that works now.

Void Linux will be perfect the moment they figure out how to 64-bit Wine.

I used Archbang on a craptop for a while years ago, didn't WINE much post 2005 stuff though and used it for work and emulation mostly.

>>13996991

Use wine with Gallium 9 and it runs fine CoC 1.5 works even better.

>>13997940

>Is there a systemd free Ubuntu distro?

No. Stop using Debian based shit

https://artixlinux.org/

>>13999473

>artix

I mean I like it and I use it but to recommend it to what will most likely be beginners is retarded not to mention the community isn't big either so getting help can and will be a pain.

>>13996294

https://8ch.net/tech/w7tele.html

>>13999772

Can mpv open .png videos? I use it for gifs

>>14000366

yes, mpv supports apng, but you need to use the -loop command to loop.

>>13999772

If you got fuckfox or cuntmium they both support APNG.

Are you using a snowflake browser?

>>14000435

i can watch the animation in my waterfox browser, but when i save the png and open it using image viewer it doesnt animate.

>>14000492

The one that has the coolest name because they still have the same kernel, shell, gnu core utilities but just a different package manager and the packages that come along with it by default.

>>14000492

>Gonna build myself a computer soon.

if you are going to build a new computer go for the amd components, they have a better penguin support.

Im using mint cinnamon, because a friend told me it was the most user friendly.

>>14000522

Good tip. Thanks

>>14000523

I've heard some are more "noob friendly" than others, but was never sure what is meant by this. I'm guessing some have GUI that are more similar to windows?

>>14000492

Whatever you do, don't do Mint. It's literally the same thing as Ubuntu but more bloated and harder to customize.

>>14000593

Basically it comes down to having a good enough set of GUIs that necessitates using the terminal as little as possible. You're almost guaranteed to have to learn the terminal eventually though, even if it's something as basic as learning how to kill a frozen program in an unresponsive desktop environment.

>>14000696

I know how to navigate BASH, so I think I'll probably be good. So far Zorin and Ubuntu are most appealing to me.

>>14000617

>It's literally the same thing as Ubuntu but more bloated and harder to customize.

I've found their presets a lot more usable than flavors of Ubuntu, they're both bloated clones of Debian.

>>13990253

So 7 would be a sexy bitch everyone uses and 10 would be some pencil thin skank with thick glasses and a notebook filled with all your personal info yes?

>>13995581

That looks so fucking stupid I don't even know where to begin calling people idiots.

Swinging your limbs around when you can't fucking see is going to lead to nothing but injury, also what if you plan on playing a game for say 4 hours, you're gonna be tired as fuck just from moving around never-mind fighting

>>14000435

>If you got fuckfox or cuntmium they both support APNG.

>always scrolled past uploads with .png extenstion without clicking

neat, i didn't even know that was a thing

>>13999767

feels reasonable and functional, man.

>>14000511

This.

>>13991268

>implying virtual machines cannot emulate other hardware architectures

Boy you are really new to VMs, aren't you?

>>14017009

>caked up whore serving cake