575ac5 No.13987683
Why exactly do edgy teenagers on /v/ hate steam? Would you prefer we go back to the past when every game used a different cancerous DRM scheme aka starforce?
The steam "DRM" is laughably easy to crack. Ironically steam made it easier to pirate video games so why all the hate?
cebab0 No.13987701
>Why exactly do edgy teenagers on /v/ hate steam?
For Hipster points mostly. Steam has been one of the greatest things for PC gamers, it has united every release under a common marketplace and has made it easier than ever to support developers and aspiring indie devs with great deals.
6d9954 No.13987704
>>13987683
Because it's garbage site and tags for games are misleading and/or useless.
Review scores with only positive or negative votes, sheer amount of shills or retards in reviews and game specific forums being only good for salt mines.
3c9492 No.13987711
>>13987704
>he needs tags and scores to tell him what to buy
6d9954 No.13987714
>>13987711
>implying that I don't pirate them first
3c9492 No.13987725
>>13987714
>he needs tags and scores after he's already played the game
294e53 No.13987726
Muh rebellion against jews.
Never mind that steam solely saved video games from consoles with their 720p*30fps cancer and allowed people to vote with their wallet.
d075bc No.13987728
It was unnecessary, just like your faggoty OP.
b6db08 No.13987730
I never had any issues with Steam.
Praise Gaben!
e6aed1 No.13987743
This thread will make evident why this place is /v/eddit at this point.
5b81d9 No.13987758
>>13987743
Yeah, thanks to faggots like you.
ef75a9 No.13987762
I don't really care. Steam does a lot of stuff wrong and the fact PC gaming is such a fucking mess at the moment relies almost entirely on Valve being too greedy or lazy to hire a group of people to actually sift through the greenlit games to decide what goes on the Store.
Apart from that however Steam is very convenient and usable. It's a nice way to support devs that I like that deserve to get my money.
e7ab86 No.13987771
>>13987762
I don't get why people are so assblasted about a store selling garbage. It's a store. No one's forcing you to buy stuff. Don't like it, ignore it. It's like going to Home Depot and going "NAILS HERE?! SCREWS ONLY REEEEEEEEE".
e77a9b No.13987772
I would prefer if physical media existed on the pc, you don't own things on steam.
6c7fc8 No.13987778
>All these steam shills
I'm on to you kikes
50df06 No.13987779
>>13987683
>edgy teenagers
Stop projecting, OP.
4225a6 No.13987781
>>13987711
Why would you make this post?
It further invalidates your previous argument.
>>13987762
>>13987772
These are the only two posts which I've ever read on /v/ that give valid reasons against steam.
5b81d9 No.13987782
>>13987772
Having plastic disk with data on it is no different from having data on your HDD.
Or rather if disk breaks down, nobody will refund you the money or give out another copy.
But if your HDD breaks down, you can redownload your game again.
You don't own shit either way, but at least with digital distribution you're entitled to unlimited amounts of copies.
51df38 No.13987783
>>13987683
I'd prefer we go back to the past when you weren't born.
4225a6 No.13987784
6d9954 No.13987789
>>13987725
I only use tags to find games easier and look at top comment, to find out if these games aren't complete waste of bandwidth.
6d9954 No.13987792
ef75a9 No.13987796
>>13987771
Because by flooding the Store with asset flips and low quality games, not only good games that are worth people's time get buried and become much harder to find but it also lowers consumer trust, making the user less likely to actually take a chance buying a game that he doesn't know about.
What the situation Valve is perpetuating creates is giant games selling extremely well because they're very advertised, then good small indie game selling either no copies or selling hugely by sheer luck.
4d6663 No.13987806
>>13987772
This, if Valve ever decides to go full jew and either starts banning you for various reasons (like wrongthink) or introduces monthly fees for their multiplayer services then you can pretty much say goodbye to your games. Since they only listen to the input of reddit cocksuckers, it's also a gamble whether enough people get mad at them to keep them in check or actually keep defending it if that ever happens. Latter happened with the Switch and PS4 if you remember.
Only problem is that there aren't many alternatives with most videogames on PC being steam-only nowadays.
af033e No.13987809
>>13987771
Imagine going to Home Depot because you need to buy a set of heavy duty masonry screws for a specific job, you head to the screw department and when you arrive you find it's just a giant bucket filled with loose screws of all kinds - wood screws, tool-less screws, dry-wall screws…The list is endless. Some of the screws are good, high-quality screws made from strong, resilient metals, but the majority of them are cheap chinese-made pieces of scrap metal that'll sheer, strip and break at a moment's notice. Would you want to have to sift through this bucket every time you want to find a certain type of screw? Or would you rather go to a store that only sells a small number of screws, but they're all clearly marked and they're all extremely high-quality?
1ca30e No.13987811
They support things like false marketing (plenty of times store pages haven't mentioned that a game has DRM until the moment of launch or later/never). They keep pushing extremely anti-consumer things like paid mods. They use the bullshit 1USD=1Euro conversion and all the other regional pricing nonsense, despite the goods being digital (and they did this long before competitors like gog did it, which of course only helped the other sites adapt that cancerous practice). Their entire platform is extremely pro-DRM. While Steam itself isn't strictly DRM, a fuckton of games use either steamworks or other DRM. It's just a terribly anti-consumer platform in general.
>>13987781
First time you've ever seen a thread about Steam, huh?
50df06 No.13987813
>>13987771
More like going to Home Depot, paying for nails, bringing Home Depot home with you, cramming Home Depot into your hard drive, waiting 30 minutes for a download, waiting another 2 minutes for a patch, then FINALLY being able to use the nails… oh wait there's another update. Ok, FINALLY being able to use the nails in another 2 mins 34 seconds… 33… 34…33, fuck internet disconnected. Maybe I can use my nails tomorrow.
a4934e No.13987815
Steam is only an option. They don't sabotage or prevent you from buying elsewhere.
You can only blame yourselves for not supporting the alternatives.
3c9492 No.13987816
>>13987789
Get a job as a professional goalpost mover.
af033e No.13987819
>>13987806
>there aren't many alternatives
Piracy. Even if you're the most moral, well-meaning person in the world, why WOULDN'T you just pirate your entire library back if Steam takes it away?
50df06 No.13987827
>>13987819
Maybe you're a lawful neutral kind of character: just completely spineless and married to the rules.
6d9954 No.13987833
e77a9b No.13987835
>>13987782
>nobody will refund you the money or give out another copy.
Who told you this is how ownership works? Owning something means it is your responsibility. If you break it or its damaged in some kind of event, thats nobody elses problem but your own. You can sell it, share it, trade it, whatever if you owned it. You can't do this on steam and you are only granted a revokable license.
If you break your chair does the chair company send you a new one? I've only ever seen this stupid train of thought applied to steam. If you find it more convenient that's nice, i care about ownership, not convenience because it's ultimately an issue of principle.
50df06 No.13987840
>>13987835
>If you break your chair does the chair company send you a new one?
The company for my chair did. There was an 800 number at the bottom of the chair. I can reorder whatever part I want.
74ec33 No.13987841
>>13987683
>Why exactly do edgy teenagers on /v/ hate steam
Fuck off redditor
e77a9b No.13987842
>>13987819
Piracy is nice and all, but the idea of trading cash for a license that is out of your control is the dumbest fucking thing ever. If your solution is to engaging in the market is to just pirate it, its the same thing as saying your solution to elections is to not vote.
e77a9b No.13987845
>>13987840
Thats called a warranty. Part of customer service, not ownership.
50df06 No.13987846
>>13987842
Why vote when all the candidates will screw you? Why pay for games when all the options out there screw you?
5b81d9 No.13987847
>>13987835
>>13987840
And then even if you destroy your steam copy of game, you can replace it infinite number of times for free.
Not to mention you can back up data on disks yourself.
Pry tell me how buying disk with game is any better.
e7ab86 No.13987852
>>13987796
>What the situation Valve is perpetuating creates is giant games selling extremely well because they're very advertised, then good small indie game selling either no copies or selling hugely by sheer luck.
That's how it works in every industry.
>making the user less likely to actually take a chance buying a game that he doesn't know about.
Which is a good thing because an uninformed consumer is a retarded consumer, especially in the age of the internet.
>>13987809
You guys speak like Steam doesn't have a tag and recommendation system. You can also set your profile to only recommend you stuff you like too.
50df06 No.13987853
>>13987845
Actually it's called being a terrible obnoxious person and making a scene over the phone. But I wouldn't actually do this.
>>13987847
How did you manage to destroy a digital copy of software? Did you spill cyber coffee on it?
5b81d9 No.13987856
74ec33 No.13987859
>>13987847
>Not to mention you can back up data on disks yourself.
Not if it has always online DRM or servers tied to steam
204d62 No.13987863
Steam may not be Monopolizing, but it really looks like a Monopoly if you're poorly informed and/or don't want to be informed.
Also these ironically-extremely-right-wing-but-actually-extremely-leftist teens that were raised on the Colbert Report genuinely think Capitalism is bad and Steam is Capitalism at its best.
b9886d No.13987865
>>13987815
I appreciate how you ignore that most games for the eight years or so have required Steam to be installed. Fallout: New Vegas, for instance. Hell, Sonic Mania doesn't physically exist.
74ec33 No.13987867
>>13987863
>Also these ironically-extremely-right-wing-but-actually-extremely-leftist teens that were raised on the Colbert Report genuinely think Capitalism is bad and Steam is Capitalism at its best.
Thats a boogeyman you've dreamt up
leftist commies love steam because it always bends over when they raise a shitfit while giving their tribe preferential treatment.
5b81d9 No.13987869
>>13987859
>buying always online games
You have only yourself to blame if you do retarded shit like that.
I mean if console player buys destiny, does it mean he owns it? He has disk, but he can't play shit without internet, so much for muh physical goods.
204d62 No.13987873
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>>13987867
You can't fool me.
126089 No.13987877
>>13987683
Two words
P A I D M O D S
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74ec33 No.13987880
>>13987869
>You have only yourself to blame if you do retarded shit like that.
The same can be said for Steam you retard
40f1e3 No.13987889
>>13987877
/end the thread
74ec33 No.13987890
>>13987869
Also its less about not buying always online games and more about how the practice gets normalized due to retarded steamfags like you who eat shit like Denuvo for breakfast.
5b81d9 No.13987903
>>13987880
No? You can play steam games offline.
>>13987890
>buying games with denuvo
Lol.
74ec33 No.13987913
>>13987903
no amount of shitposting on anonymous image boards is going to change the fact that retarded steamfags like you are the one enabling and keeping shit like Denuvo and VMware alive.
Add lootboxes and microtransactions to the list of cancer you support too.
a156b1 No.13987915
>>13987863
Steam is like 80% of the PC gaming market, so while not a monopoly(and thankfully Valve isn't trying to make it a monopoly, too bad normies are doing that all on their own), but every time they fuck and HOO BOY do they fuck up(paid mods, the one time they fucked up the recovery feature leading to millions of stolen accounts, the one time people could see a random users's account page instead of their own) it affects a majority of the PC gaming space. To put it simply, Valve are incompetent and should not have the market share they do now.
On the other hand we have sagebombing faggots like 74ec33 and 40f1e3 that equate one's purchasing habits to the platform they're using. Or that one guy that posts the SLAVERY pic with the Steam logo every time shmups get a thread. Or implying that Steam somehow caused Denuvo even though the first Game to implement it was fucking FIFA '15 a goddamn Origin excluse. Steam is shit, sure. But shit on it for the right reasons. Also
>buying games with Denuvo
0abe48 No.13987917
I only play single player, don't give a shit about gamer culture or the gaming community and dislike the cancerous marketing parasite layout of Steam.
GOG is a decent alternative. Its gaming how it was before social media.
49605d No.13987919
>>13987683
>Would you prefer we go back to the past when every game used a different cancerous DRM scheme aka starforce?
Wow, what a totally not a false dichotomy.
>>13987726
>steam solely saved video games from consoles with their 720p*30fps cancer and allowed people to vote with their wallet.
OwO what's this??
5b81d9 No.13987925
>>13987913
>no argument
>downboat
>retard spacing
You're one to break down quick huh.
56eba7 No.13987926
>shilling this hard for (((valve)))
So it has finally come to this?
0e4294 No.13987931
>>13987926
>implying there are not mouthbreathers that will defend garbage for free
>on /v/ of all places
74ec33 No.13987934
>>13987915
>that equate one's purchasing habits to the platform they're using
Steam literally has a built in microtransaction system in the form of trading cards and every single game Valve has made since Portal 2 has ingame microtransactions.
but hey not all steamfags amirite?
>>13987925
Your good goy ass is so blinding by the menorah of gaben that you can't see an argument against steam from a mile away.
Doing damage control for the fat kike here isn't going to raise your steam account level you know
2f75e7 No.13987935
Fuck (((valve))) for the way they treat their communities
They don't deserve the cash cows of dota+csgo.
5a4f2a No.13987938
Steam has become bloated and helped bring in a lot of cancerous business practices.
Early access is possible almost entirely because of steam. Without Steam existing it would be much much harder for companies to release unfinished games at full price and then slowly update it. People just wouldn't buy it.
DLC requires a stable platform as well and Steam enables that but that's not a single steam problem.
The store front is unusable in it's current state, it's advertising me shit I don't care about and a bunch of shovelware indie shit fills every possible tab.
The indie scene as we know it killed modding. Steam allowing any retard to publish a game meant people no longer wanted to work on mods. Why invest all that time and effort into a mod when you could make it a stand alone game and sell it for 10 bucks?
The genres aren't useful. Tags are even worse. If I want to play an open world game why the fuck is Tekken 7 under that tag? If I want to play a first person shooter why the fuck is Gone home under that tag? They're useless. Sort the store by gaming genre, you can be cross genre but don't tell me Tekken 7 is open world.
Valve are responsible for hat shops. TF2 kicked it off and it went to hell from there.
Finally valve is dead because of Steam. Steam is literally the Jewish middle man who does almost no work in order to get maximum profits. Without Steams infinite money stream Valve would have been forced to reorganized their business structure by now. Valve claims to have no bosses or managers, it's just a bunch of people working on projects. Imagine how shitty that is, imagine how shitty the stories are that come out of there when people quit. It wouldn't survive if not for steam constantly funnel money into the system for no work in return. L4D3, Portal 3, Half-life 3, Team fortress 3, Death match classic 2 are all held down by this flow of money. No one is going to work when they don't need to do anything to earn money.
5b81d9 No.13987943
>>13987934
>buzzwords
>still no argument
74ec33 No.13987947
>>13987943
you think lootboxes and early access shit is a feature?
kill yourself steamfag
a156b1 No.13987951
>>13987917
GOG is almost as bad as Steam as of recently what with the Galaxy.dll fiasco and fucking LOOT BOX sales. Pay 3 bucks and you might get a good game, or you might get shit. Although admittedly GOG's tighter curation means it has less shit cluttering up the store.
0e4294 No.13987953
>>13987943
>implying introducing gambling in tf2 is okay
>implying being in bed with AAA scum like EA and Ubi is okay
>implying the change to their ToS where the tldr was: "you own nothing, goy!" is okay
>implying papa gayben didn't do a 180 on nearly every stance he made in the late 90s early 2000s
No one likes to see anyone do it for free.
5b81d9 No.13987955
>>13987947
still no argument
>>13987953
>moving goalposts
ef75a9 No.13987960
>>13987852
>That's how it works in every industry.
That doesn't mean that it's how it should work. Thanks to the evolution of the internet, games could be the first industry to break away from this shitty formula. However Valve is making that impossible.
>Which is a good thing because an uninformed consumer is a retarded consumer, especially in the age of the internet.
I don't know what you're trying to say. Consumers are retarded, if you don't try to stop them from making stupid choices then you will always have a flawed industry.
You're basically just saying "eh fuck it everybody's dumb so we shouldn't even try to fix the problem".
With a properly curated Store even a dumb consumer would be able to buy and play good games from smaller teams, eventually leading to a better climate for the whole industry.
65d3e9 No.13987961
How did Steam end up becoming the go-to platform for buying games anyway?
All they had on it at first were their own games.
What happened?
0e4294 No.13987963
>>13987955
>moving goalposts
are you just spouting shit at this point? Just because you heard the argument being used properly doesn't mean you are using it properly right now. Go defend a corpse, you are nothing more than a modern biodrone at this point.
d755c4 No.13987964
>>13987683
>Why exactly do edgy teenagers on /v/ hate being fucked in the ass with lube? Would you prefer we go back to the past when every faggot used a different cancerous lubrication scheme aka spit?
>The lubed "cock" is laughably easy to take in. Ironically steam made it easier to catch AIDS so why all the hate?
How about not wanting to get fucked up the ass at all? I don't give a shit how easy Steam DRM is, I don't want any DRM, period.
ef75a9 No.13987966
>>13987961
Reliability, innovation and convenience.
Like every other service.
74ec33 No.13987969
>>13987961
It was the first to the scene and had popular titles exclusive only to it.
That and stuff like Orange Box shipped with a steam requirement.
49605d No.13987970
>>13987966
>Reliability
Have you used steam when it came out? Or ever?
5b81d9 No.13987971
>>13987963
My argument was if your disk dies, physical copy doesn't entitle you for replacement.
Digital copy does.
Refute that.
5a4f2a No.13987973
>>13987961
IM client + steam sales made it the default platform
ef75a9 No.13987974
>>13987970
I've been using it since 2008, yes
0e4294 No.13987975
>>13987971
>digital copy
>implying you own it
Someone didn't read the ToS when they agreed to it. :^)
49605d No.13987977
>>13987974
Doubt it, or you'd never talk about reliability.
74ec33 No.13987979
>>13987966
>Reliability, innovation and convenience.
When steam came about it was the most broken shit with updates every launch that failed most of the time and regular downtime which meant you couldn't play your games.
Till last year the steam servers crashed every time there was a sale and their costumer service is worse than EA's right now.
5b81d9 No.13987980
>>13987975
>moving goal posts
a156b1 No.13987981
>>13987961
They were among the first in a largely untapped market, and managed to get some titles exclusively on it(ie Orange Box). Also sales, and generally being the least shit for the longest time before GOG decided to branch out from retro PC games.
ef75a9 No.13987984
>>13987977
Steam has gone down a few times, like every other service. However there haven't been moments were the service was completely unusable for weeks.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say here.
49605d No.13987986
>>13987961
They basically forced CS players to move to it.
49605d No.13987992
>>13987984
>I've been using it since 2008, yes
>Steam has gone down a few times
rofl fucking copter
0e4294 No.13987993
>>13987980
>he's using the term wrong again
Having a counter argument isn't "moving the goal posts". I guess life has moved the goalposts your entire life. :^)
Now go pray daddy gayben doesn't ban you for being a bad goy and lock you out of your account~!
e440aa No.13987995
>>13987683
I'm used to owning my games without a leash attached. If they allowed me to take my games off of Steam, then yeah, I'll start buying again.
49605d No.13987996
>>13987971
> if your disk dies, physical copy doesn't entitle you for replacement.
Making copies of original for personal use is legal.
ef75a9 No.13988000
>>13987992
Right.
So do you have any proof of the service being completely broken for very long periods of time or are you just shitposting?
Steam has been around for almost 15 years at this point, its track record for uptime is still excellent.
5b81d9 No.13988003
>>13987993
Try something else, your second rate tactics don't work.
74ec33 No.13988004
>>13988000
>servers crash every time there is an event
<its track record for uptime is still excellent.
lmao
49605d No.13988006
>>13988000
There's other factors for being "reliable" than just downtime, you humongous scum sucking retard.
0acca5 No.13988008
>>13987683
Let them have their 16 year old rebelling phase and eventually they'll grow out of it. I've been there, you've been there and eventually they will call it their past too.
ef75a9 No.13988009
>>13988004
Yeah because crashing for an hour 3 times a year means the service has awful reliability.
>>13988006
Okay.
Like?
0e4294 No.13988011
>pretends to be smug due to "not falling for second rate tactics"
>proceeds to defend a company like modern valve
You are just shitposting for the sake of shitposting at this point. You have no argument except "nu uh!".
49605d No.13988013
>>13988009
Like being a resource hog. If you truly used it since it appeared you have to know what I'm talking about.
145189 No.13988014
>>13987683
>OP (1)&done
>muh stEAm b8 thread
>morons still bump this
and you're still trying to tell me this place isn't overun with newfags?
c346c9 No.13988017
Holy fuck, op ! are you 10…
c7c89f No.13988018
>>13987701
>>13987683
>>13987726
>>13987730
>(1)
>Nobody mentions how buying a game in a store means buying disk with a steam installer or a box with nothing but a cd key so you better have reliable internet access to play your single player game, goyim.
53e237 No.13988025
>>13987683
I'm probably the oldestfag here and I threw out Steam immediately after I got sick of waiting for them to do anything worthy with DayZ.
Steam is a platform for selling games and I don't buy shit, I'm also not into MMOs I believe there's a great many /v/irgins who're of the same stripe. It follows then that non-users start seeing it as a jewgolds funnel for flogging current-year titles while trying to sell you old titles all over again. Throw in paid mods and you've got all the reasons you need.
ef75a9 No.13988029
>>13988013
You know you could try to articulate your point by writing more than one line of text at a time, maybe then we could actually have a conversation rather than a one sided argument where you call me a retard without actually saying anything.
Being a resource hog is hardly a problem related to reliability,
I'm currently playing and steam is using pic related.
50MB of ram. That's 1/160 of my total ram. With less than 0.2% of my 3.5ghz quad core CPU.
Is that a resource hog?
I think it's more than fine.
ef75a9 No.13988032
>>13988029
>inb4 lol chrome
49605d No.13988036
>>13988029
>Being a resource hog is hardly a problem related to reliability
R00fles, when your service takes ages to load any page, crashes and freezes, that's fucking reliable.
Kill yourself.
>I'm currently playing
>If you truly used it since it appeared
You either are extremely dumb or extremely dumb shill.
e440aa No.13988039
>>13988014
>this place is shit now guys, i'm serious this time
I get the feeling these demoralizing posts are a some subtle goon OP.
ef75a9 No.13988041
>>13988036
Listen post proof of your claims or fuck off, I ain't wasting my time discussing nothing
49605d No.13988050
>>13988041
Proof of steam running like shit when it came out and years after that?
Anyone who used the fucking thing back then knows it's true, you can take your precious time and fuck right off now, worthless sack of shit.
7656f5 No.13988057
>>13987971
>physical copy doesn't entitle you for replacement
It does. I still have my nonfunctional Diablo2 game disc next to the one I got as a replacement in the mail. You're just an underage nigger.
74ec33 No.13988061
>>13988009
>Yeah because crashing for an hour 3 times a year means the service has awful reliability.
It shouldn't be crashing in the first place. It pretty much kills any multiplayer you might be playing and those crashes aren't a one time thing. They happen periodically throughout sales.
e78e49 No.13988065
>>13987683
I hate steam because I remember a time before it when I did not have to run a shitty broken resource hog piece of software on my computer just to play a game. I still use it though
5a4f2a No.13988069
>>13988039
Stop making excuses for retards. You're giving into /pol/s paranoia where they refuse to engage with people and call them shills instead.
The world is full of retards. Video games especially so. That makes any vidya community shit because it can't be made up of anything but shit people
abd98e No.13988071
>Social media-tier bullshit
>Political correctness
>Market monopoly
>Drowning the market with shit
>No quality check whatsoever
>Except for 18+ because fuck those
>Attempt to paid mods
>Mods that work exclusively with steam
>Rigged review system
>PC master race meme
Gee fellow steam user, I wonder why. Why don't you kill yourself and find out?
5b81d9 No.13988072
>>13988057
Based Blizzard, right?
49605d No.13988075
>>13988072
Do you suck cock?
5b81d9 No.13988077
d18d8e No.13988079
>>13987683
>(1) and done
>Retards are still replying
7656f5 No.13988082
>>13988072
>not based Blizzard NORTH
You're so underage is not even fun yet. Nice job changing the topic by the way. How are you not banned yet?
145189 No.13988085
>>13988069
thank g-d then we have intelligent,free thinkers like (you) around that totally don't suck dick or anything to guide the rest of us
5b81d9 No.13988088
>>13988082
>muh blizzard north
You mean the ones that did nothing good since they were kicked out?
7656f5 No.13988098
>>13988088
>local autist keeps changing the topic once proven wrong: the ID: the thread
14573d No.13988111
>>13987995
gog is the closest thing to a good option but the fact its digital only ruins it. I personally want my purchases to have a semblance of value attached to them.
ef75a9 No.13988113
>>13988061
That's just how servers work. Also the Store servers and the community servers are different, when the store crashes because of a sale or an event, very rarely the user servers crash.
Multiplayer is connected to the user servers.
6c7fc8 No.13988116
>>13987980
It doesn't though, if your steam account got banned, say good bye to your library
b6db08 No.13988119
>>13987762
>Other people should filter for me
Only weak-minded scum like you wants to give power to other to filter what they see.
>>13987796
Are you a retard? A bigger store will always make it harder to find what you want. It's unavoidable.
You might as well argue for small stores that are somehow magically perfectly suited for your tastes and yours alone.
>>13987809
Subjectively marked
>>13988018
>he doesn't know you can play games in offline mode
WTF is it with this barrage of stupid? Are we being raided?
2fab65 No.13988139
>>13987726
This is the most retarded underaged post I've ever seen on 8/v/. Time to make 16/v/ tbh.
5b81d9 No.13988145
>>13988098
My topic about digital copies letting you have infinite replacement as opposed to physical that don't haven't been refuted yet.
So blizzard lets you get a replacement for D2 disk. Once or twice.
What about other games?
How about 20 times.
You, my dear anons, still have no argument.
14573d No.13988151
>>13988119
>offline mode
>ever working
>this posting style
gamezard is back
5221f7 No.13988152
>OP is (1) and gone
>obvious shitposting 4niggers sitting out their bans
Reported.
5b81d9 No.13988157
>>13988151
>I don't know how to use software I downloaded
>>13988116
It only prevents you from posting on forums.
Or you mean some hardcore fucking ban issued for outright illegal activities? What do you even need to do to get one?
14573d No.13988161
>>13988157
>get auth ticket
>be offline indefinitely
>auth ticket expires after 2 weeks
>games you """""""""""""""""""""""""own"""""""""""""""""""""""" will no longer launch
>defending this
why buy PC games, ever?
c94ca4 No.13988163
>>13988145
>My topic about digital copies letting you have infinite replacement
>>13987996
964522 No.13988165
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13987947
>you think lootboxes and early access shit is a feature?
Don't buy early access and sell the lootboxes on the steam market offering funbux with exchange rates of 1:1 with your real Rothschild funbux currency?
>>13988137
why do you care about a faggot spending anything between 13 and 44 federal reserve™ toiletpaper notes on licenses for video games?
What would you rather him do with it?
sage for shitty 1 and done thread.
d18d8e No.13988172
>>13987915
>Normie
Back to >>>/cuckchan/ faggot
>>13987961
>Buy game
>Has GFWL
>Buy game
>Please access EA
>Buy game
>Has Uplay
This happened and Steam and Valve were the best choices out of this whole mess, anyone who says otherwise didn't game on PC in 2005-2011, publishers didn't care, they killed entire genres and franchises because consolefaggots and normalfaggots flooding tech ate anything their Overlords would shovel at them.
DRM was where mainstream was pushing all this time, Steam was the best option and a placebo where you can pirate anything with it pretty much at launch, finding a free download for something as small as Dominions or DLsite games on a public tracker was a pain in the ass and the popularity of Steam only got more pirates onto the scene.
Anyone complaining about it is a retard and likely a consolefaggot, pirates don't care and will pirate shit and shut up about it, anyone fellating and defending it is an even bigger retard and should be gassed.
>Muh fenceshitting
This shit is much more nuanced than you fucking faggots love to pretend its not, publishers gave people no choice, and the at the time small time Valve raped companies like EA, Ubisoft and Windows which were indeed pushing for a monopoly on this DRM shit.
The fact that digital distribution got as popular as it did was the reason I finally got to play EDF on PC outside Touhou.
d18d8e No.13988175
>>13988152
Also this
Fucking vols keep sleeping though
419fce No.13988180
This entire thread is bait, but fuck it. I'll bite.
I dislike Steam because I don't think Valve provides a useful enough service to justify the absolutely massive amount of money they rake in off other people's work to pay for fat Gabe the jew's food budget.
Steam has gotten large to the point that if a PC game isn't released on it, it's almost guaranteed to fail. For every sale made, Valve takes a 30% cut. What do they provide in return for the money they make? Their tech support and customer service are laughably bad. There's zero quality control. Every "service" they provide from the sales to the market is set up entirely for more moneygrubbing for as little work as possible. They don't make their own games anymore despite the die-hards who still want them to because they don't need to. The few games they do put out at this point are things they purchased after someone else did the ground work. Say what you want about consoles or traditional publishers, but atleast when they take a cut of the profits, they either provide the hardware necessary to run the game (sold at a loss with the games themselves used to make it profitable) or help cover some of the initial costs to get the game out there in the first place. Valve just keeps their servers up, counts their jew gold, and shovels slop into Gabe's enormous ass.
9fc374 No.13988188
Digital distribution is better because you can back it up as much as you want.
d02fac No.13988189
>>13987986
Basically this.
WON servers were deactivated, so, if you wanted to keep playing CS, TFC or any Half-Life mod online you had to go to Steam ins 2003. It was basically a very buggy version of Origin back then. Also Half-Life 2 launch in 2004 coupled with Counter-Strike Source earned a lot more adopters to the Steam platform.
d18d8e No.13988195
>>13988180
>Say what you want about consoles or traditional publishers, but atleast when they take a cut of the profits, they either provide the hardware necessary to run the game (sold at a loss with the games themselves used to make it profitable) or help cover some of the initial costs to get the game out there in the first place.
A consolefag who still thinks the hardware is sold at a loss after 7th Gen and has never seen the kikes at Steam shilling for games.
Amazing
d02fac No.13988212
>>13987974
Steam was released in 2003 and it was extremely buggy. Even Half-Life fansites made fun of it.
2b00d4 No.13988216
>>13987683
>>13987701
Can you faggots just go back to reddit?
Steam was the death of PC gaming. its a fucking content managment system for people too stupid to sort shortcuts to installed games. it gave normies easy access to vidya and caused the collapse of the entire vidya industry.
Steam is the root cause of all this shit we're seeing now. it is the fucking itunes of video games when before everyone either ripped CDs or used bittorrent.
defending steam is just admitting youre either underage, or a normalfag casual faggot that started liking video games as soon as it became a fad.
7656f5 No.13988222
>>13988145
>you can't make personal copies because I say so
>needing 20 replacements of anything not designed for disposable use
Are you a child with a propension to punch your controllers by any chance?
d18d8e No.13988242
>>13988216
>Steam was the death of PC gaming.
>4 of the most popular releases on PC this year were either released on GOG or Battlenet
[Citation needed]
37326c No.13988243
>>13988165
>mocking people being retarded on the Internet is a bad thing
guess we shouldnt have mocked Tom Preston, Chris Chan, and many others lolcows
9fc374 No.13988245
>>13988216
>Steam was the death of PC gaming
It was the opposite, Steam was the much needed competition to the console kikery that was taking over the industry.
14573d No.13988256
>>13988245
now the biggest releases on PC are just console ports, usually late ones at that with an added spoonful of DRM and the developers half assing it with no extra PC features other than you can change graphics settings which has no real tangible effect beyond medium (console) settings.
truly saving PC.
0620f7 No.13988261
>>13988172
you do realize ubisoft games on steam need to log in to both steam and uplay, right?
2b00d4 No.13988288
>>13988242
i never said that 2nd point. did you mean to quote someone else mr redditor? or do you not understand how greentext works.
fyi [citation needed] is a faggy reddit meme. doesnt surprise me that the redditors come here, then make threads and post about how theyre assmad /v/ generally hates steam. no different from shitskins entering europe, then complaining about europe
>>13988245
>casualizing the pc market saved pc gaming
>redditors actually believe this
oh is that why the quality of pc games have increased so much as steam got more popular?
kys.
000000 No.13988290
>>13988025
You're also the most retarded person in this thread.
>steam/valve fixing dayz
>a game they didn't develop or own
Fucking hell you are so stupid it hurts.
c94ca4 No.13988292
>>13988025
>oldestfag here and I threw out Steam immediately after I got sick of waiting for them to do anything worthy with DayZ.
O_o
871829 No.13988296
>>13987778
>I'm on to you kikes
So… where do you buy your games? Do you pirate everything like a total nigger?
>>13988157
>What do you even need to do to get one?
I am literally using steam to play pirated games online and I haven't been banned yet. No idea what you would have to do to get your entire acc locked.
c94ca4 No.13988308
>>13988296
>where do you buy your games?
:D
c6da80 No.13988310
1412da No.13988318
>>13988111
Is this really necessary? I remember back in my days playing a Korean MMORPG, I was quite content with spending money on pretty hats and clothing to make my character look pretty. Why do you need to have something of value for your money? Surely, it's the experience that matters, right? That's what matters, isn't it?
Don't people spend the most amount of money in order to experience the things that are immaterial such as friendship or family? (Not that people buy friends but rather, these bonds need money for maintenance, in case what I meant wasn't clear…)
d18d8e No.13988333
>>13988256
And the biggest releases on consoles are FIFA and Destiny, whats your fucking point?
You're not even right you autistic nigger, the biggest releases are from Early Access Survival and Battle Royal games thanks to Steamfaggots
>>13988261
If it wasn't called Uplay it was something, I remember having to access a client for Ubisoft games back before all their games were on Steam.
>>13988288
>Reddit reddit reddit
>[Citation] needed is reddit
>Every greentext is a quotation
>Casual casual casual
Want to know how you weren't playing PC vidya in 2008-2012?
>>13988318
Autistic retards will always value their chinese manufactured and marketin produced shit than the actual contents made by the developers themselves.
Its millenial collectionist thought process
efc1cb No.13988350
If steam would sack up and tell developers they Can't stack third party DRM on their games I'd have respect for them actually following their own business plan of providing a better service for the consumer.
As it stands
Steam is a wet bag of shit with some Dimes in it. And I am better off buying things on GOG or Playism and just using steam for tf2
871829 No.13988359
>>13988288
>casualizing the pc market saved pc gaming
>oh is that why the quality of pc games have increased so much as steam got more popular?
except that it wasn't Valve who did this, all valve games are still brutally hard to learn. Activision, Ubisoft and EA and games easier every year.
0620f7 No.13988361
>>13988333
that wasn't really my point, you used to have a different client/service for every game and now you also have Steam on top of that
871829 No.13988370
>>13988350
>If steam would sack up and tell developers they Can't stack third party DRM on their games
You do realize that steam is fully cracked, right? You can play every game out there that uses steamworks cracked online. Payday, street fighter, serious sam, borderlands 2 (not that those are good games, but those are games that use steamworks only) you can literally pirate them and then play them online using steam.
The only thing that isn't cracked properly yet is the steam market.
9fc374 No.13988375
>>13988256
>>13988288
>go to a retail to buy games before Steam popularity explodes before 2007
>World of Warcraft, FIFA, NFL, Battlefield 1942/Vietnam and other old EA published games
PC gaming sure was great, fellow old fags.
efc1cb No.13988382
>>13988370
Yes retard I am well aware of how easy it is to crack steam games (by design). That's not what I am saying though. Valve should out right REFUSE to sell games with third party DRM built into it, and the fact that they do is an admission that they don't have real standards for product quality like they brag about.
9fc374 No.13988386
>>13988382
They can't negotiate that because their DRM is easily cracked, they have to accept third party DRM being bundled with the game if they want to attract the big names. Not that the third party DRM isn't as easily cracked, mind you.
871829 No.13988387
>>13988375
>PC gaming sure was great
don't forget dying multiplayer, searching for patches (sometimes websites would require you to wait 10-50 seconds just to be able to download a shitty file.) and people not patching their games causing the community to be split on different versions.
>>13988382
>Valve should out right REFUSE to sell games with third party DRM built into it
yeah but imagine you are a game designer and you want to sell your game on steam, with the only option being that faulty drm. I would also love it if Valve did that, but you can't really expect them to do it.
efc1cb No.13988410
>>13988387
>imagine you're a game designer and your only option is that faulty drm
Or you could, you know. Sell it without DRM
9161bd No.13988450
Steam was all right but after paid mod 1 and 2 my opinion of them is terrible. They've made some incredibly shitty decisions.
000000 No.13988463
>>13988450
>bethesda pushes for paid mods
>STEAM PUSHED PAID MODS!!11
why is the average /v/ user so retarded?
c94ca4 No.13988468
>>13988463
Wow, what a coincidence that valve allowed them to do that shit on steam
7656f5 No.13988475
>>13988463
Why are torposters always so new?
2b00d4 No.13988559
>>13988359
>all valve games are still brutally hard to learn
>portal is brutally hard to learn
>hl2 is brutally hard to learn.
>ricochet is brutally hard to learn
aside from that terrible point you made, i didnt say valve. i said Steam. do you know how to read?
>>13988333
>waaah im sick of being called out for being a redditor
fuck off kid.
>>13988375
>ea ported games to pc in 2007 means pc gaming was shit.
>this is what the kids that were driven to gamestop by their moms believed about PC gaming as they walked passed the tiny PC display to head to get the latest cowaduty and beg mom to stand in line for them.
>>13988387
>waaah, pc gaming is haaard, cant it all just work like it does now?
9fc374 No.13988562
>>13988475
>nothing but good will
Except every popular mod had a donation button set up and the hosting websites like Nexus were also selling premium accounts.
c94ca4 No.13988575
>>13988562
Modding existed long before shit like nexus was even a thing.
2b00d4 No.13988593
>>13988562
>>13988575
and the mods were still free for anyone that wanted them.
donation boxes became common everywhere, people even stuck them at the bottom of video game walkthroughs and amateur strategy guides. it was just a more generous way to say thanks.
c94ca4 No.13988597
>>13988593
Did you just fucking quote me?
2b00d4 No.13988605
>>13988597
i was agreeing with you.
c94ca4 No.13988607
871829 No.13988612
>>13988559
>do you know how to read?
I know what you said, it just doesn't makes any sense. How can "Steam" (some shitty drm/market place software) ruin gaming? And how is it steam's fault everything is shit?
>waaah, pc gaming is haaard, cant it all just work like it does now?
harder does not mean it's better. How exactly is automatically updating better than manually having to search for updates?
2b00d4 No.13988614
>>13988607
(stop bumping this thread. fucking sage)
2b00d4 No.13988619
>>13988612
>how can simplification of pc gaming to make it more accessible to retards ruin pc gaming.
871829 No.13988661
>>13988619
do you like sucking dicks? Imagine there is a market that requires you to suck dick before you are allowed to enter it, would you visit that place just because it's harder to shop there than it is to shop in a place that doesn't require you to suck dick first?
Third party sites can go down (look gamespy), ask you to create a account, or make you wait to download files. 50 seconds may not sound like a lot, but it is cancer when you have to download 10 of them. Also, some games only have like 30-60 people playing it, and it sucks if all of them use a different version of the game. Just look at ut2k4, the server browser showed all versions, you would search a game, try to join a server but get kicked because you use the latest version and the server a old outdated version.
Steam made everything better and you are a retard.
2b00d4 No.13988683
>>13988661
>PC gaming was too difficult for my stupid nigger brain before valve came in and Steam made everything better
fuck off retard. DSP? is that you?
000000 No.13988708
>>13988475
NOT ALL TORPOSTERS!
74ec33 No.13988718
>>13988165
>Don't buy early access and sell the lootboxes on the steam market
Me not buying them isn't going to change the huge amount of steamfags who gobble that shit like their daddy's dick.
de98fb No.13988728
Because some of us were alive long enough to remember a PC game scene where we actually owned our fucking games and didn't need some fat greedy scumbag's useless background process to police our legitimate use of software.
de98fb No.13988741
>>13988172
Basically everything in this post is the opposite of reality. What Steam actually did was empower more developers to push DRM into their games. And, in fact, people who suck off a closed game system on personal computers are the actual consolefaggots.
>publishers gave people no choice
You had a choice. You could have grown a spine and boycotted anti-consumer behavior. Instead, you rewarded it.
238872 No.13988743
>>13988661
Steam can go down too you fucking mongoloid.
And citing a specific game where the devs couldn't figure out how to code a server browser doesn't mean steam is some magical godsend. It just means that specific game is shit. The vast majority of games handled different versions normally and worked fine. Get off Gabes dick.
701bb1 No.13988749
Why exactly do assblasted trannies on cuck/v/ hate full/v/?
c94ca4 No.13988765
>>13988749
>mark's /v/
>full
hehe
2b00d4 No.13988768
>>13988728
i remember pc games were getting annoying with their bullshit systems they wanted me to install, but it was always easy to just uncheck a box during install.
then one day i wanted to try hl2 because the physics engine was pretty fun to play with in that leaked demo and wanted more, and i tried to install it and it wanted to put some spyware thing on my computer called steam. i didnt see an option to opt out and thought i missed it, then i tried to find a setup.exe file on the disk that didnt include the steam spyware thing, i tried and tried for hours uninstalling it several times in the process.. i eventually gave in and installed it, then tried to kill and block the steam process so i didnt have to worry about shitty spyware running in the background while i played a game. i eventually returned the game to "software etc" and the guy at the counter told me alot of people brought it back with similar issues and he told me the only way would be to "wait for a patch or something."
871829 No.13988784
>>13988683
>too difficult for my stupid
not to difficult for me, it's to difficult for everyone else.
>>13988743
>Steam can go down too you fucking mongoloid.
how many times did it go down so far?
>And citing a specific game where the devs couldn't figure out how to code a server browser
the community is still split, no matter if you see it or not.
but before we continue this discussion, what kind of games do you anti steam people play? I bet it's a bunch of gay games, or single player games. Because there is no chance in hell you play multiplayer games and dislike steam. Also thank god for fucking steam workshop. That shit is truly godsend. You can install mods in game, and depending on the game disable and enable them in game too. Everything is installed in game too so you don't have to deal with lazy modders piece of shit mods.
000000 No.13988837
>>13988768
>runs windows
>complains about spyware running on his system
smug-anime-girl.jpg
c7c89f No.13988845
>>13988119
You can't install games in offline mode, you shit eater. You can't go into offline mode if you don't have a steam account.
de98fb No.13988886
>>13988784
>what kind of games do you anti steam people play?
Playing Terraria at the moment. Factorio a little later in the weekend. Also Mecha Ritz. Guess you don't need Steam after all to play good games, eh?
871829 No.13988922
>>13988886
>Guess you don't need Steam after all to play good games, eh?
I never said that, I own a shitload of non steam games too. My copy of ut happens to be a non steam version. But this explains why you guys hate steam… Of course you would dislike it if you don't play the kind of games that benefit from it.
de98fb No.13988929
>>13988922
>DRM
>benefit
Holy shit the ideology on display here.
871829 No.13988960
>>13988929
I am not going to repeat the things I posted already, but multiplayer games do benefit from steam.
890f4a No.13988986
>>13988837
>uses a processor made by AMD or Intel
>thinks his machine isn't spying on him just because the physical spyware architecture happens to have loonix running on it
000000 No.13989015
>>13988986
you wanna fight me on this on /tech/?
de98fb No.13989025
>>13988960
You don't need a DRM platform to setup up a master server, kill yourself imbecile. Even small non-commercial open source communities like OpenTTD and Xonotic can figure out a solution.
2b00d4 No.13989041
>>13988784
>not to difficult for me
you sure have alot to bitch about in regards to something thats not too difficult for you.
c562ee No.13989172
>>13988741
>What Steam actually did was empower more developers to push DRM into their games.
How the fuck does Steam suppose to empower developers? It exist first and foremost as a digital distribution store that made convenience a gold standard in the digital market. Patches, Fixes, all of that shit gets rolled out fast and in a easy manner for the consumer to download (that is, just having the game started up).
DRM is useless bullshit that gets fucking nulled anyway thanks to piracy. They pushed some DRM shit? Well too bad fucko, no purchase for you.
>You could have grown a spine and boycotted anti-consumer behavior.
>Thinking Boycotting works
>in a videogame industry
*inhale*
HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHA
HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A 'BOYCOTT' THAT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED?
<inb4 Nu-Battlefront II
It's not a boycott, its simply the market voting with their brains for once. Too bad for them, its already too late. God i hate brainless plebs
>>13988728
>Because some of us were alive long enough to remember a PC game scene where we actually owned our fucking games
What kind of merit does this suppose to carry? If anything, it locks the content into the fucking disc like a console. Let's not even talk about the bullshit that was CD-ROM
>>13988619
>Not wanting QoL features
Hey, if you like doing trivial bullshit that could have been circumvented altogether with no repercussions then alright. just compare playing vidya on MS-DOS and on Wangblows, you'll see what i mean
>tl;dr The average consumer simply cares about convenience and that is why Steam is king in PC gaming
de98fb No.13989260
Always, always in these threads there is a conflation with Steam the store and Facebook replacement with Steam CEG, the actual DRM. Why are Valve apologists so disingenuous? You can have all those lovely features and storefront without the DRM. There are games sold over Steam that in face can be run without the DRM. Cheevos are not a "feature" that DRM provides. A social network is not a "feature" that DRM provides. Multiplayer servers are not a "feature" that DRM provides. The DRM is not coupled with these things and can be disconnected. This is a classic shill argument and it's amazing how often it goes without being refuted.
04440d No.13989268
>>13989260
>Why are Valve apologists so disingenuous
you have to lie in order to defend half the shit they do.
04440d No.13989284
>>13988784
>what kind of games do you anti steam people play?
I play a lot of classic console games, focusing on individual libraries at a time. I also spend my time playing PC games around Comiket. If I want to play Western PC games, there's plenty I've pirated, a number of gog installers, etc.
2b00d4 No.13989287
>>13989172
> trivial bullshit
stick to consoles if using a computer is too inconvenient for you.
871829 No.13989422
>>13989284
>I play a lot of classic console games
The people who don't need steam say it's useless. It may have no use for you, but other people need it.
de98fb No.13989446
>>13989422
What do they need it for?
871829 No.13989464
>>13989446
playing pirated games online
de98fb No.13989468
>>13989464
I'm confused, why do you need Steam for such a task?
9fc374 No.13989646
>>13989260
>Why are Valve apologists so disingenuous?
Everyone else is disingeneous, trying to paint Steam as some major evil. Valve has only been shady when it tried the paid mods shit with Bethesda, prior to that Steam was and still is a great quality of life software.
04a9ca No.13989695
>edgy teenagers
>the past when every game used a different cancerous DRM scheme
The past didn't start when you turned 15, kid.
I can reinstall my old games and choose which patches to use. I cannot do that with Steam games. If the devs decide to fuck with the game significantly beyond bugfixing, which is more common now than it used to be, there is nothing I can do about it. Cannot even tell Steam not to update my games anymore. The play experienced is controlled by the developer who may or may not censor, cut, or significantly change things as they see fit after you paid them. Also it is much easier to get a game to run outside of windows if it isn't for Steam. In every way Steam fucks you outside if not worrying about losing physical disks which isn't a problem if you are not a slob who never learned to take care of or even back up your things.
871829 No.13989714
>>13989468
steam allows you to play certain games online
5438a2 No.13989813
Steam is always online DRM.
Steam is invasive spyware.
Steam is required for all new PC games, you need to put your game on Steam to be successful unless you have something like Minecraft. This means that all new PC games are released with required spyware and awalys online DRM by default.
Steam's "social networking" and "community" and "workshop" features compete with other, superior community run platforms, detracting from them.
You don't own your games if you use Steam, you own a licence to the games that Valve can take away at any time.
https://spyware.neocities.org/articles/steam.html
de98fb No.13989907
>>13989714
Wow really? Has Valve graduated to internet service provider now?
de98fb No.13989922
>>13989695
>the past when every game used a different cancerous DRM scheme
Funny, I still own the boxes from PC and Mac games of mine going back to 1991. Not a single one of them requires some external background process whose only function is to police my legitimate usage. Perhaps you're full of shit?
de98fb No.13989926
>>13989922
>>13989695
Herp, sorry should have paid more attention to the post.
871829 No.13990052
>>13989907
steamworks is cracked, every game that doesn't use third party drm works online on steam. There are dlc unlockers for almost every game too.
de98fb No.13990112
>>13990052
So… Steam isn't necessary, and it doesn't allow games to work online. You're just making excuses for anti-consumer developers who choose to force their customers to use Steam. Do you even understand what Valve offers? What a master server is? It's a server that simply keeps track of all the actual multiplayer servers running, the vast majority of which are run by third parties or even players themselves. It's actually not a terribly resource-intensive piece of infrastructure. Quite a few free and open source game communities have set up their own free of charge. OpenTTD, Xonotic, Freeciv, Battle for Wesnoth. Even old game communities like the original Battlefield games managed to accomplish it once the official Gamespy master server was shut down. In all of these instances, the option of directly connecting via IP is always possible without running through the master server. Steam is only needed for these games to the extent that anti-consumer developers have decided to force players to run through Valve's master server to connect to each other.
871829 No.13990324
>>13990112
>Steam isn't necessary
You cannot play them just like that without steam, just think of the days before steam and how many games actually worked online pirated.
c7c89f No.13990729
>>13989172
> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A 'BOYCOTT' THAT HAS ACTUALLY WORKED?
gamergate
9594c7 No.13992210
>>13987806
>Only problem is that there aren't many alternatives with most videogames on PC being steam-only nowadays.
It's called retro, my man. Who needs today's games when most of them are SJW-ridden interactive movies or "muh nostalgia" ridden clusterfucks made by hipsters who get high off the smell of their own pixelfarts?
Hell, I'd love if Valve went even more kike-ish than they already did if only to clear the community of the riff riff that infests it. Not you, but the ones who shill for DRM, corrupt devs, etc.
2de827 No.13992603
>>13990112
>he doesn't know about spacewar
Kill yourself fam.
a6d7d9 No.13993767
>>13988018
You can play singleplayer games without internet, I did it literally last night.
e0f6ff No.13997008
>>13993767
Are you retarded? He's talking about being unable to play the damn game because there is no game - just a key for you to download the game. How are you supposed to download your game without an internet connection?
>buy PC game on disc
>put disc in PC
>install
>if it has CD key DRM, insert key
>you can now play your game if the DRM doesn't require an internet connection
DRM is cancer either way. The ideal is that a PC game has a physical media for installing the game if you have no internet, and no matter how you acquire the game, it is DRM-free. Multiplayer-only games are given an exception in that they may require an internet connection to play, but not to install. Ideally all online games should be made with alternate servers in mind as well, since it can't be expected that the servers for the game will be around indefinitely.
>But then how do you stop piracy?
You don't, there's nothing wrong with copying.
>But how do I get money for make game?
By selling copies of the game or by getting funded somehow, maybe even kikestarter as long as you deliver your fucking game.
>That's not enough money
Then get a real job or just deal with it and make more games, you entitled piece of shit. Starving artists and all that.
>Wah! I bet you don't buy any games
I import moon rune games and upload them for others to enjoy. :^) Does this bother you?