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>>13954896

>Is there any hope?

No, and there never was. This is the PIG we're dealing with here.

Fuck. MWO is a shitshow, I don't have high hopes for this one.

>>13954896

>Mechcon

This shit has a con?

So, I found a video from the faggots at Polygon. It's 9 minutes and recorded by the devs, not by the retard journos. Have a look if you want, I don't give a shit. It looks ok. There are helicopters and tanks and shit in the game, and all the sounds are recycled MWO sounds.

>>13954930

Its Steam Workshop

>>13954941

>This shit has a con?

Yes, its called MWO

its a one day convention for Mech and Battletech fans

>>13954962

>Posting a monetized Youtube video from Polygon

>Embebbeding that shit

You braindead fucking idiot go back to >>>/cuckchan/

https://hooktube.com/watch?tv=r8WoNTHMoLc

>>13955003

>What are views

>Doesnt know the viewcount still gives them money

You fucking retard

>>13955011

Google won't pay them for your view if you have adblock. They can detect it and it appears on the uploaders' graph or whatever analytics page they have over there. It's why some vid makers complain about adblock telling their subscribers to turn it off.

Trailer just came out

Oh, and if you are not aware of the seemingly never ending ride of fuck-ups that was Mechwarrior Online, you ought to check this out. It will probably give you a fairly good taste of what is to come;

http://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/250736/Mechwarrior-Online-Mismanaging-Expectations

Sage for doubleposting.

>>13956679

I hope Garth is killed by a drunk driver on Christmas Eve.

>>13959144

Surprisingly, they fired his stupid ass a year and a half later. I guess his faggotry was too much to contain.

https://www.tiki-toki.com/timeline/entry/250736/Mechwarrior-Online-Mismanaging-Expectations#vars!panel=2475109!

>Garth Erlam disappears silently after an extended vacation

>Russ explains, "it was simply a matter of his skill set no longer matching the evolving needs of the product and studio."

>The thread is later removed.

>>13954896

I was wondering why I felt a massive disturbance in my bowels, this explains it. The chronic shits I just took will be a better product than whatever (((PGI))) shovels out.

>>13955011

its ads views, not video views. Why do you think e-celeb complaint about adblock

There is no hope. It's dead. Give up.

There's not a lot of games where you can stomp around with a mech so a beggar can't really be a chooser in these times. Sometimes I want to do the right thing and just whip up my own game. I have the time and the skills (0 art and music skill though) to pull off a mech game I've always wanted, perhaps with hookers and blackjack to boot.

>>13977788 (double checked)

what is this pasta again?

>>13954896

>Still a year off

>It still won't be anything more than MWO with an AI added on top

>They'll probably sell each mech configuration separately

>Retards will still buy it

>PIG will continue to rape the Battletech corpse for a few more years

Just let it die with dignity.

>hatwarrior online not selling enough

>nuke all the fan projects that filled a decade of no mechwarrior

>mechwarrior 5 time

>hey come mod this for us

is this spite? malice? idiocy?

>>13978174

Considering the lead developers of the CryEngine 3 were the ones who were working on MWLL, i.e. the game engine PGI decided to use for MWO do you really have to ask?

>>13991128

>the lead developers of the CryEngine 3 were the ones who were working on MWLL

That's actually pretty fucken cool.

>>13993230

Yeah but it stands to reason if you are going to use the Cryengine for your game they are the last people on Earth you piss off.

>Everyone sucks the dick of MWLL cause it looks pretty

>Nobody knows about the MW2 remake using a custom made engine

The Mechwarrior Community deserved to die to be honest.

>>13994258

>those fucking homing srms at the end curving.

I will play this game now.

>>13994137

Link it you fucking nigger.

>>13994742

PIG are too incompetent to compete with a few autists on a budget of three packs of cheetos and a bottle of Mountain Dew, so they nuked all the fangames.

>>13991128

>>13993230

also pretty fucken untrue. PGI got a few MWLL devs, and i dont think they even work there any more. i don't know where you get this "CryEngine lead developer" or what you're replying to in general. I was marveling at how PGI took a giant shit on every Battletech fan project, MWLL wasnt the only one, and now expects "the community" to mod for them.

>>13995356

>Doesn't know who the Tracy brothers were

Please leave.

>>13995356

>Something that is 100% true is untrue

Holy shit what fucking bullcrap have you been smoking? Do you not know who Dan and Sean Tracy are? The fags that developed MWLL and then got hired by Crytek to work on the Cryengine 3 and then proceeded to literally write the book on Cryengine?

This is why old MWfags hate you /v/edditor hipsters, you know absolutely fuck all about the history of Mechwarrior.

>>13995595

i misread, thought you were saying PGI hired the Cryengine 3 leads.

>>13995664

>This backtracking

Go to fucking specsavers mate if you somehow got from MWLL devs working on the CryEngine to working for PGI.

>>13994137

I actually agree.

>Play MWLL which anons shill as teh ultimate Mechwarrior game round here

>Feels like Battlefield with a Battletech skin not that there is anything wrong with that but it does not feel like a Sim. All the weapon impacts and feeling is way off

>Play MW4 Gamenight with /v/

>Nothing but MWLL fags bitching about it the whole time being the wrong game saying it's arcadey

>Turns out MW4 has a very autistic radar system, mission play, loads of viable mech choice and a lot more tactical options than MWLL does

If this is the state of Mechwarriorfags then I agree it deserves to die if they are going to shit on the superior game for no valid reason.

>>13998986

MW4 built as the stardard LL map (objectives, respawns and all that) would be the superior choice, but you can only play arcade deathmatches and that's pretty boring

Also, LL has tanks and vtol

>>13999023

>Can only play arcade deathmatches

Did you actually show up to MW4 Gamenight or have you played MW4 before? There was fucktons of gamemodes beside deathmatch.

>Also, LL has tanks and vtol

MW4 has a massive selection of Mechs and Battlearmor, I think that trumps Tanks and VTOL.

I only liked Mechcommander anyway and the battletech game looks like piss

>>13999036

>Did you actually show up to MW4 Gamenight

Yes, there was deathmatch or koth deathmatch (or fucking BA deathmatch for some reason). Not that LL is much better, but it is usually better than a bunch of mechs running in circles killing each other. I mean, I played for 3 non consecutive hours, did I miss the parts where we played capture points (points being real bases with walls, turrets, etc) on decent maps where you had to plan your movements because you cant just do a straight line to the enemy team?

>I think that trumps Tanks and VTOL.

No it does not. More mechs is good but more vehicle classes is probably better

And I just noticed

>MW4 has a very autistic radar system

I didnt look much into that, but this advanced radar system is basically line of sight iirc (I might be wrong). Which isnt how battletech radars work at all, you cant hide behind a rock 100m from the enemy and become invisible. Disappearing from the radar with no ecm, passive radar or anything like that happens over larger distances, and even then one mech or other is supposed to have a decent radar to pick up mechs from a distance. In fact, this is exactly how MWO radar works iirc, line of sight

>mission play

fair enough but coop isnt the same as pvp if that's what you mean

>loads of viable mech choice

Arguable, and it's not like LL's mechs have strict usage tiers or something

>a lot more tactical options than MWLL does

How, exactly. You can make your own autistically minmaxed mechlab loadout, but LL has 8 different loadouts per mech if you want to use a mech with lbx for example there's gonna be one option for that, it's not ideal but you cant say LL doesnt have loadout variety

MW4 modders focused really hard on adding as many mechs as possible, which is great, but just putting them on one big square to shoot each other in circles inst fun. MW4 can be better than LL in theory, but it needs more work

>>13999174

>did I miss the parts where we played capture points (points being real bases with walls, turrets, etc) on decent maps where you had to plan your movements because you cant just do a straight line to the enemy team?

Yes. Especially the ones where you could call in armies and fight dropships. I think you missed out.

>>13954966

i guess there will be no drm free release.

>>13999321

>all this being a prick on the internet for no reason.

Projecting much? Anon you fucked up and got slaughtered for it. Did you really expect not to get bullied for fucking up? If so you may want to re-evaluate whether you belong ont his site or not.

And that isn't even the tip off the iceberg of what PGI tried to kill off. Hell they even tried to go after MegaMek

Who needs to be killed most though are the fags that will enable PGI by making mods for them

>>13994137

does the mw2 remake have tonks?

More importantly, does anyone actually play it?

>>13999666

the thing about steam workshops, satan-kun, is that it doesnt let other stores to sell it, like gog and shit, and devs get turned into steam bitches forever.

>>14000440

>it doesnt let other stores to sell it

What the fuck are you talking about?

I want a Mount and Blade: Mechwarrior. I want it so bad.

>>14000440

You stepped into another timeline, anon. People can sell their steam workshop enabled multiplayer wherever, they just need to be upfront to people that they'll need to install Steam for them to play online.

>>13999749

Fusion engines rarely if ever explode.

>>14000427

It was killed while they were still working on the engine. The dev was in the process of introducing stuff like alternate munition types, TAG lasers and AI Turrets.

>>14000864

>Mount and Blade: Mechwarrior

So MW2:Mercs?

>>14002851

Mechwarrior 3 is the best in the series, although it takes a bit of effort to get it working on anything past Windows 98.

There's another issue where the zoom reticule (0 key on Numpad) keeps activating but someone out there made a patch that stops it from flickering- also there's a massive issue with ground vehicle physics that makes them and stationary turrets bounce and spaz out.

Still the best game by far.

>>13994137

You talking about Assault Tech 1? That got canned years ago.

>>14002118

They're full of ammo and explosives and are in a universe with heat weapons. At a minimum they should be cooking off and exploding even from lasers.

>>13954896

>Mechcon

There's a con for Mechs?

>>14003092

MWO wanted to be seen as e-sports so they tried to make it look like people cared.

>>14003100

Fuck off, Child.

"MWO is a piece of shit therefore all Mechwarrior games are shit"

-Some childish faggot, 2017

>>13954896

my grandkids are going to love this game

>>14003197

You know i'm right and that scares you, Jimbo.

>>14003213

Implying I'm not just biting to keep the thread alive.

>>14003216

Kill yourself, you pathetic little faggot.

>>14003230

>Implying I'm not just biting to keep the thread alive.

That just makes you even worse than before. Filtered, trashboy.

>>14003241

>Implying you will actually filter me

You don't even know how, NeoFaggot.

>>14007343

OH GOOOOOOD

PUNISH MEE

Just a reminder that a lot of the problems that MWO faces (technical-wise) were the result of CryEngine 3 being fucking awful.

MW5 uses Unreal 4, I think.

>>14007471

I think he is

>>14008795

So you do care.

>>14008795

What's wrong with it?

>>13998986

>>Feels like Battlefield with a Battletech skin not that there is anything wrong with that but it does not feel like a Sim. All the weapon impacts and feeling is way off

>>Play MW4 Gamenight with /v/

>>Nothing but MWLL fags

Yeah I believe it.

>>14002851

>Mech Commander 2

Fuck man, play the original MechCommander. MC2 is a joke compared to that game.

Each of the MechWarrior games has some crippling issue that makes it not very fulfilling. With MW2, it's the lack of any sense of progression. With MW2:Mercs it's the ubiquitous technical issues and randomly generated missions. With MW3, it's the shitty AI, cumbersome salvage management interface and lack of variety in mission design. With MW4, it's the awful weapon balance. With MW4:Mercs, it's the tedious mission design. The original MechCommander is the closest Battletech videogames have come to perfection, none of the other games will give you such great satisfaction in accomplishing a mission and salvaging cool mechs.

>>14009038

About the franchise and where it's going yes. I want some competent developers to take over since Battletech fans always get shafted no matter what. To the cease and desists on projects, to Harmony Gold(berg) fucking up everything because FASA/Jordan Weisman didn't respond in court I can say that Battletech fans have not had much luck in the previous decades.

>>14009264

PGI is literally going full lazy and grabbing assets from their other mechs in game to make canonized shitty frankenmechs. That's what's wrong with it. The sad thing is that there are retarded potatoes out that are willing to dish out $20 or more for it.

>>14010235

IMO, Mechwarrior 2 and Ghost Bear's Legacy was the most solid out of them all. If it wasn't for the bugs and glitches that it had during it's final release (that were later fixed by fan contributed patches) I would say that MW:2 and GBL were the two best in the franchise for a first person mech simulator.

Also, check out MechCommander Omnitech. It's free and IMO it feels the closest thing to a proper Battletech simulator. I just wish that the guy developing will hopefully add proper variations to the lasers, and that pulse lasers actually pulsate in burst duration's in future builds.

>>14010947

That image would have been better if Vivian got spanked in the end.

>>14009309

They both look like shit, fam. Is that your point? The old ass designs looked liked something out of a 70's cartoon too, no amount of style can fix those.

>>14010825

MechCommander Omnitech is still a piece of shit. MC2 has a bunch of problems compared to MC1, boring mission design, drastically dumbed down resource management, but the biggest problem of all is the enemy AI. The enemy AI in MC2 only targets the first unit that it sees which makes it very exploitable. The game becomes very boring and repetitive when you can just send a fast mech to bait the enemy and have it run around in circles while the rest of your mechs whittle it down unchallenged. Omnitech doesn't fix this problem.

>>14011134

Why does she haven antlers.

>>14011281

Christmas?

>>14011308

She's jewish.

>>14003086

That's what I thought. It must be a "lore" thing but the reality is it's just another thing holding back the game. None of the weapons seem to have a feel of power and the lack of explosions adds to that whole impression of it being more of a paintball game.

I'd rather see a mech game that isn't based on the license. That way all the stupid shit could be removed. And not some garbage like Hawken. Looking at videos and posts analyzing the MW5 footage released so far I have to say it looks like bugged shit.

>>14011548

Engines shouldnt explode unless you hit them directly, but it happens. Weapons themselves dont really have a reason to explode, but (on the boardgame at least) ammo can explode easily. Mechs dont go full anime death every time that's for sure, they're not full of fucking dynamite or anything. What they should work on is the weapon effects, gauss, lasers and missiles should definitely make a decent explosion on impact (and on lauch/trail depending on the case)

>>14011574

Gauss rifles explode when destroyed.

Not gauss ammo tho.

>>14011574

I don't play War Thunder either but watching a few videos that game has a good effect where the ammo cooks off. I haven't seen that happen in MWO. I have to say I don't give a fuck about realism or the board game but there's a balance to be struck and they clearly messed up.

Like War Thunder it seems like the dead husks don't have any impact on the game. They should provide cover and be real objects. I suppose the more you look at it the shittier it gets. Pretty much every element is a missed opportunity.

>>14011705

You do know that C.A.S.E. exists in the Battletech Universe right?

>>14011740

Not all mechs have CASEs tho.

>>14011758

To be fair the vast majority of Mechs I'd wager in MWO would have CASE, Clan Mechs come with it as standard for example.

>>13998986

This was my experience too, I tried out LL after the MW4 gamenight and it felt dumbed down as shit.

>>14010947

You're right. There is no helping these fags if all they are going to do is bitch.

so picked up mechwarrior 3 mercenaries after game night.

>proceed to do single player

>seems fun enough and actually give reasons not to go full assault mech.

>go thew the missions find some top tier clanner wifu and conquer her in combat for free top tier pilot

>short on missions go to arena planet get noted that i need to get reputation with stiner or davion or whatever to get missions.

>grind out light to heavy rounds for ez deviation points.

>go assassinate some diplomats for an easy 10 mill and NOT HAVE TO DO ESCORT MISSIONS.

>end up on some moon base and curb stop some guys i pissed off early in the game (because it seemed harder to level the base buildings then leave rather than just kick their shit in)

>next mission some helicopters attacking some town or some shit

>oh some light mechs seems easy enough

>suddenly 2 awesomes an atlas and some number of catapults come over the horizon

>watch helplessly as 3 argos a blacknight 2 bushwankers and a ownens LRM missle boat get fucking whipped

>try again

>and again

>go shitpost on /V/

so is there something i missed or should i just go grind infinite money and rep from the gladiator world? and buy 8 salt mechs and lose money on every mission?

>>14019278

so i'm just supposed to withdraw?

>>14019369

That's the idea but if you have the money, you could upgrade to some heavier mechs and curbstomp the ambushers. I did the latter and made out like a bandit on the salvage.

>>14020310

well i think i know what your talking about ended up losing some 4 loaded mechs fleeing that one and didn't want to scum save but i'm on Wernke and you tube walk thews say that i need 8 salt mechs for this mission

Bump

>>14019278

>>14018726

Shit, I don't remember MW4 Mercs all that well. Are missions dynamically generated ala Titan of Steel: Warring Suns?

i hope theres robots in this one

>>14025369

>

no they are not rng missions and i did figure out how to win everything (go buy 6 salt mechs and fuck shit up) so in otherwords i think ima just going to drop it.

>>13999613

>Hell they even tried to go after MegaMek

Does their kikery know no bounds? It's not like they have a share in the CBT player market, good fucking God. Not to mention that application is an overwrought piece of aging Java shit that uses Swing for fuck's sake. I actually had to fix a major bug involving adding jump jets to a custom chassis because I was GMing a CBT Mercs campaign and one of my players couldn't make his Mech in the editor properly. It was a bog fucking simple mistake too, not updating UI elements in the update loop. Good thing I happen to be a professional programmer.

>>14028072

I thought that Mercs' missions were a step down from Vengance's and Black Knight's. The missions in those games involved more caution and discretion whereas the missions in Mercs are almost all straightforward head-on battles where victory is dictated only by how well you configure your squad, not through the tactical decisions you make during the mission. In Vengance and Black Knight there are missions where you can go out of your way to climb surrounding mountains to gain an advantage on the enemy and there's a lot more moments where you have to pull back and use cover (buildings or terrain) to survive.

New gameplay