c4d7c4 No.13930959
Grand Strategy Games
Archive
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>Where do mods go and other info?
https://pastebin.com/dTCRqZuN
>Anon's Edits (EU4, CK2 and V2)
https://pastebin.com/5ArmkNAq
This Day in History, December 7th
>43BC Cicero, considered one of the greatest sons of Rome, is assassinated on the orders of Marcus Antonius.
>1787 Delaware becomes the first state to ratify the Constitution of the United States.
>1941 Japanese planes raid Pearl Harbor, Hawaii, in a surprise attack, bringing the US into WWII.
>1942 The U.S. Navy launches the USS New Jersey, the largest battleship ever built.
>1972 The crew of Apollo 17, the last manned mission to the moon, lifts off at Cape Canaveral, Florida.
0176bf No.13931004
MY WTWSMS KEEPS FUCKING CRASHING
70beb8 No.13931032
>>13931004
Did you put the mod in the proper place? Like really, really you should try searching where to put the mod in. You probably fucked up this one.
Also be sure the WTWSMS version you have is for the game version you have.
2664fb No.13931040
So what's the difference between a grand strategy game and a 4X game?
c649c0 No.13931045
>>13931040
BELIEVABLE WORLDS
But really its in the name. Look up what "4x" stands for and compare and contrast with a game like vicky 2.
0176bf No.13931082
>>13931032
Yes, it's in the right folder I played a full game from Thuringii up to HRE but I started a new game as Essex and have only gotten to shy of 600 AD and the game keeps randomly going unresponsive indefinitely
I may just try to start another game but it's really pissing me off losing all that progress.
a3c330 No.13931102
guess what time it is, boys
86bffe No.13931348
Do we really need a new thread every 150 posts?
86bffe No.13931350
>>13931082
>from Thuringii up to HRE
Mein Mohr.
a3c330 No.13931721
>>13931348
i think op just wanted to include Pearl Harbor on the today in history section tbh
70beb8 No.13931981
9868d7 No.13932061
>>13931040
Grand Strategy games are historical simulators. They have a fixed starting map or starting maps (if multiple start dates are available) and are not intended to be balanced. Success is achieved not by world conquest / extermination but by national prosperity and achieving a successful or dominant position in one's region - the exact definition of success varies from time period to time period.
A 4X basically has a random or semi-random map, everyone starts out on generally equal footing with most of the map unclaimed and uncharted territory. They then try to expand and kill each other as fast as possible. The game is generally intended to be balanced.
f685a9 No.13932067
>>13931040
gsg are 4x games with a serious case of historical roleplaying and simulation(playing withing the limitations of different factions)
4x is just fungal growth into unknown not that it's bad
631115 No.13932092
>>13931102
is it Pearl Harbor time?
eaaaba No.13932223
Repostan from last thread since that one isded. For the anon who proposed Cascadia.
>>13925193
This has been proposed before, and I said I'd add it to the to-do list. I think it's time to actually do it now since I have a few ideas for this & Hawaii.
But I'm gonna need more insight on what to do.
Perhaps in the 1836 start, Oregon state and Boise Idaho could be part of the Astorian/Oregon state, which would be an independent state under the influence of the USA. After the Oregon treaty in the 1840's, you could be given the choice to either remain independent, become part of the USA or the HBC.
If your choice were to become part of the USA, the country would first become a vassal (since there are no tags/modifiers to become a substate in the code) and by decision, become the State of Jefferson, which would remain a vassal or plain old annexation (AI would have something like 30% chance of forming the vassal State of Jefferson)
If your choice were to become independent, the HBC would grant you (Very reluctantly) the lands between the 42°N and the 54°40'N latitudes (Basically Hongcouver), but you'd be on your own, Britain would hate your guts and the French wouldn't care a bit about your existence. Your only options would be Russia or Mexico, and if you are to ally the USA, you're basically fucked after manifest destiny if you're not under the protection of another GP, as it is with Texas.
The borders you're proposing seem alright, but I'd have to make/edit a shitton of provinces, so for simplicity's sake, I think pic related borders borders would be more fitting since most are already in-game (I'd have to make about ~6 new provinces for the stuff I'm thinking about, which is a lot of provinces IMO), so 4 of these new provinces would be for the proposed Jefferson State, which should happen after the USA annexes that shitton of Mexican clay. I could also add a new irredentist decision to annex Alaska and form Greater Cascadia or whatever and MAYBE I could add a new culture to the area, Cascadian, as to represent the many immigrants which came from mainland USA and Canada, them being Yankees doesn't really fit the whole Cascadian theme. Maybe also a Californian culture for California in order to replace the current Yankees, that's kinda dumb. But for this I'd have to remove some of the stupid, useless black African cultures literally nobody gives a shit about
The other stuff I'm thinking about is a small overhaul for Hawaii, give em a little bit more flavor, 2 more provinces (Maui and Kauai) and the Paniolos, which are Hawaiian Cowboys from California (tradegood changes from fish to cattle in Hawaii Island)
727e26 No.13932226
So im Trying to get into Aurora 4x, and my autism is very pleased with the ship design, and even the interface. Hell even I see it easy to play on the start, just have to look how everything works in the wiki.
But between the 30000km/s missiles on the start, and people saying Distant Worlds is better, im not sure if i should keep playing this.
Is there a lot of difference between them? Wont Distant world be worse for playing in my toaster laptop?
I just want comfy xeno purgin', thats all…
70beb8 No.13932306
>>13932226
>Wont Distant world be worse for playing in my toaster laptop?
Possible, but you should at least try it. It is no a top of the tier game graphically.
That said Distant Worlds is supposedly good, but is still a normal video. Aurora is the rela spreadsheet autism simulator and you seem to enjoy the shit out of it, so why stop now?
70beb8 No.13932310
>>13932306
a normal video game*
0d71fb No.13932333
The fucking supply system in HOI 3 makes no fucking sense. How can a province that's farther away from the supply depot be getting all of it's supplies.
727e26 No.13932453
>>13932306
I just hate geting into a game that I like at first but then it ends up being a horrible bug ridden garbage, with shitty AI, or just really shallow.
The same happened when I tried HOI3 and realised 4 was going to be even worse.
f685a9 No.13932911
Scandies are my puppets.
I'm filthy rich due to selling the Russians the provinces from their civil war with the Gnommies.
3 tech teams due to spamming IC.
Wat do?
Denmark is German ally as is Vodkaland.
I'm at war with Bongistanis annexed norcucks but can do shit due to their navy. I built a few submarines and discovered that Fins are more proficient with floating bathtubs than subs.
f685a9 No.13932930
>>13932911
Correction, Vodkas are just guaranteed by Germany.
Try to provoke the bear into attacking?
8b6916 No.13934290
what would be good amount of craftsmen in vic2? 20%? 25%? 30%? As many as possible?
8b480f No.13934418
8b480f No.13934489
>>13934477
Humorous and original tbh
d611bb No.13934652
>>13934591
Prove this isn't cuckchan copypasta.
f685a9 No.13934655
>>13934591
Just filter&report. It's leftypol sperging becouse of wrongthink. And of course people having fun.
8b480f No.13934819
>>13934775
>Alright, can we put the memes aside for a moment and all agree that, for what it set out to do, HoI4 is a success?
No.
d85efb No.13934841
>>13934775
>Can anyone here honestly say they enjoy wasting an hour to fix their OoB every time they start a game of HoI3?
You don't NEED an OoB, and it certainly takes less much less than an hour to make one. Maybe 10 mins if you are playing as the Soviets.
>Not to mention that, rather than needing to tediously micromanage industry like in other HoI games, HoI4's industry is both streamlined as well as more intuitive than the previous games.
It's way worse anon. In HoI3 you set your IC distribution to automatic and put whatever you want on the queue. Done. In HoI4 you manually assign every single factory and need to mathematically calculate out how many factories to put on each thing to give you the correct ratio of equipment for your divisions. Tedious bullshit.
83a1db No.13934869
>>13934775
Just keep reporting guys
c649c0 No.13935676
>>13932333
Because infrastructure/rebels/weather/tech/geography. You are gonna have to get more specific about your problem anon.
ee5af4 No.13935830
>>13931082
do you have jade dragon? Unless the mod has been updated it probably won't work.
f80b9c No.13936683
>>13932223
I like it.
Although, Having the Oregon State independent, under the influence of the US at first wouldn't really make sense. If anything, it was more HBC-influenced than American-influenced at first, but steadily became more American-influenced through the years.
The Treaty of 1818 gave both Britain and the US "joint control" of the area, and it would be contested by both since.
Americans called it Oregon Territory, British called it Columbia. I'd suggest making the entire territory, from 42° to 54°40'N contested land. Like this, there's no reason for HBC to "give" land up.
In 1843, though, the Provisional Government of Oregon was finally formed, as the settlers from both US and HBC sought to take administration into their own hands. This is when it could be considered an independent country, but considering it's options to join the US.
Making the land just uninhabitable or already owned by Britain until then is just laziness on Paradox's part. How you would make it like a "joint occupation", I don't know, but I'd have an event fire to form the nation of Oregon Country on July 5, 1843 which has a choice of either being a vassal of the US, or independent. If vassal, it becomes the Oregon Territory and the Oregon Treaty event in 1846 would obviously simply divide the lands at the 49° as usual, and maybe you could make Columbia annexed by HBC at this time.
The Rockies were always seen as the territory's boundaries, so make sure to include all provinces west of them as at least cores. Everything in pic 1 should be cores at the outset.
And by the way, the capital of the Provisional Government was called Oregon City. Not Portland.
As far as flags, Oregon has a beaver on the back side of it's state flag you can use. The Provisional Government even issued Beaver Coins shortly before it was disbanded, so it's liable for the Beaver to be the national symbol for a time. Then, there's the commonly known Cascadia Doug flag. And then there's several ideas for NatSoc flags, notably the tricolor chosen by the Northwest front. Here's a swastika that I've seen shooped on the flag at one point, though I don't have the image myself. How many/what kinds of flags do you need?
f80b9c No.13936858
>>13936683
Here's also the state seal of the Provisional Government, seal of the Oregon Territory after 1848, when it became a defacto part of the US, and the original Oregon Coat of Arms.
2f080d No.13937740
>>13936858
Fuck the bear republic, I want the salmon dictatorship
83a1db No.13937867
>>13936683
What about these?
f80b9c No.13938102
>>13937867
Looks neat. I appreciate the flipped Northwest Front tricolor for the commies.
0d71fb No.13938116
>>13935676
I'll post pics tomorrow, too lazy to boot wandows.
64d456 No.13941440
>>13932226
I enjoy both but I'd recommend Distant Worlds overall. You don't get the autistic joy of fiddling with your missiles until they explode xenos just the way you like, but I feel DW's got a little more going on grand strategy-wise than Aurora which pushes it over the edge.
f685a9 No.13941828
>>13932226
Distant Worlds has the benefits of a graphical interface while not being casualized like Stellaris is and pretty challenging and diverse if you include the myriad of mods.
eaaaba No.13942537
>>13936683
>>13936858
>>13937867
Thanks, these are very helpful.
Now about Oregon/Columbia, COL -or Columbia District- has already got cores all over the Cascadian area, what I had in mind was to make it a substate of the HBC -if possible- (HBC would have cores all over the area, but COL would control them) AND have them be under the influence of the USA. Also the USA would have cores all over the Oregon state, just to make things a bit more fucky as to represent the contested territory and USA's extreme territorial claims bordering Alaska (Beyond the 54°40'.)
In 1843 (for whatever reason I still don't know yet, could use a bit more insight) COL changes its tag to ORE, the provisional government of Oregon, AND it'd either be free, a vassal of the USA OR a vassal of the HBC.
If vassal of either, ORE would be split between the USA and HBC in 1846 as per usual, if independent, nothing happens.
An independent ORE would be able to form CSD -or Cascadia- and claim some new Northern Californian provinces I'm going to add (San Buenaventura, Del Norte and Trinity) plus Alaska through an irredentist decision requiring jingoism and military might as part of the requirements.
Any feedback?
eaaaba No.13942937
>>13942537
Also, I'm gonna try adding the Welland canal and make the North American Great Lakes navigable.
a17adc No.13944882
Im trying to declare war on the netherlands for my cores (vicky 2 just in case), homever the game wont let me click when im in the window that shows the casus bellis and call ally options, i checked and my relationship is below 60.
Anyone knows what might be happening?
83a1db No.13945173
>>13944882
No more war modifier?
15e1ad No.13945442
c8781f No.13945482
>>13945357
>>13945442
Can someone explain this to me?
a17adc No.13945504
>>13945173
I dont have any modifiers like that as far as im aware, did the game glitch?
eaaaba No.13945505
>>13945482
Great Lakes are now navigable. They were not, probably due to paracuck's lazyness.
c8781f No.13945519
>>13945505
Neat. They played such a big part in the war of 1812 it seems strange that they weren't.
83a1db No.13945573
>>13945357
>>13945505
No its because thats like 7 more naval bases for the USA which would make their navy OP as fuck.
eaaaba No.13945580
>>13945573
Actually it's 4
eaaaba No.13945603
>>13945580
I lied, it's 6. I-I don't think this should be in the game.
3577af No.13945639
>>13945573
Fun fact: The US is inherently overpowered. There’s nothing you can do to stop us. Except, apparently, prevent “claim land” casus bellis from being visible if you don’t have a jingoist government in power (which they’ve done in the new world order cold war expansion mod).
99282c No.13945664
>>13934841
>controlling what you produce is tedious bullshit
yeah, depth is really tedious bullshit
c649c0 No.13945900
>>13945664
>hoi4
>depth
I don't even know why I'm replying.
f80b9c No.13946046
>>13942537
If I think of anything, I'll let you know.
46ac2d No.13946063
>>13934775
>Deleted
Wew how shit are you at HOI3 you have to go out of your way to try and explain how shit it is? I share a board with faggots like this, fuck yourself.
>>13934841
Creating a chain of command and when there is zero resistance left turning on the AI and watching your units go is pretty fun.
eb4b69 No.13948712
Are the Supreme Ruler games any good?
39fc0f No.13948736
>>13948712
they are good in the beggining when you don't know what to do, when you learn the quirks of the game you just steamroll everyone as Lichtenstein in the first year of the game
39fc0f No.13948744
>>13948712
by the way, everything is scripted and there is no flexible AI or anything, the AI is always going to do what it is scripted to do and the game is going to always go a historical path
(sorry for doubleposting)
f007b1 No.13948820
>>13931097
white and based
ae05c4 No.13949501
CK2 really is no fun when you're at the mercy of the AI. Fuck this.
a7d727 No.13949516
>>13949501
What pisses me off about the game is the constant revolts, I'm pretty sure most great empires did not fall because its ministers wanted more council power every decade.
7c679c No.13949636
>>13945357
This makes me think, if you could modify, remove or add a feature from Victoria II with a mod, what would it be?
d343f3 No.13949663
c649c0 No.13949684
>>13949636
Not shit combat.
39fc0f No.13949738
>>13949636
good implementation of WWI
15e1ad No.13949754
>>13949636
Interesting colonial options for the CSA.
859c8d No.13949816
Is there any point in building things in EU3?
The bonuses seem really minor for the cost even when accounting for future profit, especially in distant territories.
I guess fortresses are useful for shitholes that don't have them, but is there anything else?
39b27f No.13949838
>>13949636
Whaling was such a important industry all the way up to WW2 yet is mentioned fuck all in Vicky 2.
d85efb No.13950091
>>13949816
You best be joking nigga
7c679c No.13950163
>>13949684
How would you improve it? More and different units? Sieging that makes more sense? More control on combat outcome? Different multipliers for the efficiency of your troops? Men of the hour? Cowards, foreign agents and deserters?
>>13949738
I was kind of thinking about this. Why would they implement Tank and Airplane divisions if they're so unrealistically impossible to use within the time frame before the vanilla game's end date? And why won't the combat evolve to trench warfare?
>>13949838
Betcha it's cause it's insensitive and all. Pogroms, discrimination and pollution should be big parts of the game.
>>13949754
Such as?
e9079a No.13950172
why is this shit so Overpowered? do the devs of kaiserreich realy not think this trough?
d343f3 No.13950200
>>13950172
1. they're commies
2. HoI4 is shit
99282c No.13950208
>>13950172
It's a beta and not finished yet? And it's not like any hoi game was ever balanced, you can't have that with a historical gsg.
f685a9 No.13950209
99282c No.13950210
>>13945900
because you're an idiot with no arguments ;)
70beb8 No.13950218
>>13950200
Please don't post that gay shit here.
2a7021 No.13950227
>>13949636
a faction system, so you can create things like the central powers
c649c0 No.13950232
>>13950163
I want to see armies function closer to the newer total war games where you can set up a general outline for the armies organization and they will keep themselves roughly in that shape but done in a way that doesn't remove the complexity of army building basically I get really sick of having to shuffle around infantry divisions because of fucking jacobins again. I also want more control over actual engagements than just moving your blob into the same province as the enemy blob, give us some sort of option on how they should engage in the battle so we can do things like sending a pure cavalry force to do something like raid supply lines giving the enemy army a debuff for when we move in to engage with a real army, or when you know it's hopeless leave a division or two behind to cover the retreat of the rest. Anything to get more player involvement in the battle itself really. But really it would be best if it just booted up napoopan when you got into a battle
859c8d No.13950313
>>13950091
Honest question.
I've been playing for a bit, but I'm still pretty new to everything.
7c679c No.13950340
>>13950232
How about giving each unit type a specific terrain where they outperform the others or constraint to their uses (i.e. Cavalry getting combat bonuses from open fields or Artillery having more accuracy when defending from specific tiers of forts) AND a mission that a specific stack can be sent to do (like you said, harassing the flanks, guerilla warfare, holding the line etc.) which heavily changes the combat bonuses?
e9079a No.13950349
>>13950208
atleast you can not give it 100 national focuses that annexes entire nations and give you gabjilion factories
e9079a No.13950355
>>13950340
perhaps more unit types so you can make specialized armies
04d21d No.13950575
>>13949516
that's probably because most emporers weren't stupid enough to give people who hated them positions of power
eaaaba No.13950604
>>13949636
Non-retarded combat AI
ae05c4 No.13950612
>>13949516
>>13950575
The problem is more with the AI being incapable of defending and expanding efficiently when not guided by events. I was playing a count in Saxony in the Charly start and boy does it suck.
eaaaba No.13950765
>>13937740
Salmon dictatorship.
d85efb No.13950770
>>13950313
You want the land line in a few provinces, recruit every troop from them. -recruitment cost also makes them save on maintenance forever if recruited from the province (applies retroactively if you build the building after recruiting). Same for the ships and docks.
Production line is almost always good so long as the province is decent, as is docks 1.
Trade is good once you control a trade zone, especially if you monopolize. Once you unlock Trade 5/6 make sure to rush them everywhere and they'll break the game (+1% national trade income and +1% trade efficiency affects your entire empire for each province you have one in).
Government line is kind of bad unless you plan to take lots of stab hits. e.g. if you are non-western and want to westernize, spam them. Its possible to get your stability cost next to zero which lets you westernize the instant its available.
Also take Patron of Art and maximize the usage of this event (https://eu3.paradoxwikis.com/Prospering_times) to get easy max cultural tradition and infinite 5/6 star advisors. Otherwise manufactories aren't terribly important since if you can afford them you probably don't need even more income.
BTW use the ledger to build buildings. You can sort by e.g. province tax and place buildings where they'll give the most tax bonus. It's basically the same functionality EU4 has but slightly hidden.
d343f3 No.13950792
>>13950765
>A FUCKING SALMON
eaaaba No.13950851
>>13950792
Which one looks better?
c8de9d No.13950940
>>13950851
To me, the second one. The thickness and shading make it look better, like it's something that would be sewn onto a flag.
a17adc No.13951521
>>13950851
First one, looks more like what you would see in an uniform or shitty flag from the era.
Also.
Dictator salmon>commie bear>foot fetish snake
7c679c No.13951588
>>13950604
Impossible, this is a Paracuck game. You'd best just overpowering its units with free stacks and randomized pathfinding than expecting them to get human-like.
6d0bc6 No.13951830
>>13949636
Better alliances. I was playing as Greece today and Russians steamrolled Turks for me. They didn't even want anything in return either. It's way too easy to abuse your buddies and force them to fight your wars time and time again.
859c8d No.13951874
>>13950770
Troops cost less to maintain if I keep them in the province they were first recruited in?
What the hell, I'd never guess that.
Thanks lad.
Also, are vassals better than just land grabbing or outright annexing?
Last time I played I ended up with some 5-6, although they were mostly useless during wars.
7c679c No.13952188
>>13951830
Perhaps a system could be implemented where each nation (or at least all GPs and regional powers) has an "agenda" so to speak, some of which can be gained from the relationship with them and whether you're in the same alliance or not and some of it secret or that some sort of spy network could unveil. Maybe this could also move the numerical, absolute YES/NO answer they have to everything, so that if you for example wanted to go to war with the Ottomans, a set of variables within Russia's agenda will trigger their decision to intervene and a proposed war goal of their own. Also I believe that the way peace deals are done is absolutely retarded, it's good that a GP has more importance than any other state but it always feels like allied members gain barely anything from it.
d85efb No.13952249
>>13951874
No, no.
Maintenance is based on build cost. Your troops "remember" where they were built (it's in the save file). If you build a troop in london, and you have a building in london that reduces unit cost, it will cost less to maintain wherever it is on the map. If you build another building in london to reduce the cost further, all units that were built in london now cost even less to maintain. It's even better with ships where you can get maintenance down really far.
>Also, are vassals better than just land grabbing or outright annexing?
It mostly has to do with getting more land for less infamy when you don't have a good CB that reduces infamy, where just annexing an OPM will give you a ton. PUs tend to be better than vassals because you can PU countries at any size. Just watch the notification and claim throne, or fabricate a claim with a spy (on the capital). PUs are really abusable in EU3.
However unlike EU4 there is no relation cap, so you can just vassal swarm anyone and it kind of works alright.
83a1db No.13952298
>>13949636
The more I think of it the more I realize how shitty and simple the game is. Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time modding for this game. But at least its fun, sometimes.
3577af No.13952305
>>13949636
A ‘world jewry’ mechanic, semi-hidden from the player, that describes and shapes jewish (read: international) behavior against your nation based on what you do. If you do things the jews like, you suddenly will have more allies and better trade. If you do things they don’t like, your budget starts getting fucked, you can’t get loans, and insurgencies pop up. Even (fellow) GPs will start getting casus bellis on you to bring you into the world economic market.
859c8d No.13952313
>>13952249
Huh. That's pretty useful.
I'll keep all of that in mind.
And I guess I'm going to get a gorillion vassals/PUs since it seems faster and easier to secure things that way.
dbbb90 No.13952315
>>13950172
They're gonna try and do something with the Soviet tree later to make it better. Right now they are focusing on making Arabia and Italy make more sense.
I have hopes that Cornflakes will make HOI4 and KR4 a bit more tolerable for /gsg/ I have low enough standards to have fun with it.
7c679c No.13952337
>>13952315
>Socialist Republic of Italy
>Capital isn't Bologna
They'll have to do better than that
dc1f39 No.13953256
>>13952315
>that italy
fucking why
fe2ea0 No.13953334
>>13953256
Because current KR devs are fucking faggots and HOI4 is a trash game
4fea45 No.13953340
>>13952315
What the fuck was wrong with the original KR Italian divide
643857 No.13953381
>>13952315
>gee dulce why does your mom let you have two sicilies?
e9079a No.13956115
>>13953381
>gee Il duce why does your mom let you have five italies?
f80b9c No.13956782
>>13950851
First one looks more like the Salmon from >>13936858 I think
eaaaba No.13956787
>>13942537
>>13950765
>>13950851
>>13946046
Okay I've sorta devised a timeline of events for our beloved OREGON:
>1836:
Start as COL - Columbia District of the HBC
>1841:
Champoeg Meetings discussing an attempt to establish a centralized government in Fort Vancouver, Washington after the death of wealthy trader Erwing Young; could be event to inherit his money.
>1843:
Meetings conclude in the formation of the Provisional government of Oregon; Will be given the choice to form the provisional government of Oregon (at the expense of losing the northern territories, which will be incorporated to the HBC), be incorporated to the HBC (tag changes to HBC) or remain as an unincorporated territory of the HBC. Note that Cascadia will only be formed by either ORN (Oregon) or JEF (Jefferson state)
ORN (Oregon) will be comprised of the actual states of Oregon, Washington and Idaho, with a small chunk of Wyoming and Montana. Will be under both the influence of the USA and ENG
Also note that Oregon will get cores all over the Columbia district area, and so will the USA and HBC, this will be the contested territory.
>1846:
The Oregon Treaty, USA loses any cores north of the 49° parallel, HBC loses any cores south of the 49° parallel, COL loses ALL cores, the usual stuff. Oregon becomes USA's sphereling.
>1849:
USA diplomats arrive in Oregon, giving you the choice of becoming their vassal or remaining independent (which, IMO, should escalate to war, what do you guys say?)
>1854:
If the player decided to become USA's vassal, the USA creates the state of Washington, efficiently annexing Oregon's northern half.
>1859:
Oregon becomes a state of the union. If you're a vassal, this is your last chance for freedom. You're probably going to be annexed, nobody said this was going to be easy.
f80b9c No.13957120
>>13956787
A few things I would consider.
First, the Oregon Provisional Government was pretty much independent except for the phrase "until such a time as the US would extend it's jurisdiction over us" in the constitution, which was added only last minute on the irl by the insistence of some Methodist faggots. I think there should be debate on whether this phrase is added or not, which really decides whether US has claim to annex (They're still going to do it regardless) and whether Oregon would lose land in the North during Oregon Treaty, right? What do you think? Or are we just assuming that the line will be in the constitution no matter what?
I don't think refusing to become a vassal should trigger an escalation to war, as there was common sentiment in the US that Oregon could be independent, even among Presidents, of course. I would rather it be a relation decrease which might lead to war, depending on the AI. US should still have cores there, so war is pretty much inevitable.
Washington became a state well after Oregon, so making them a state first makes no sense.
A few things I think would be good to add:
Service by Requirement at the outset is historically accurate.
>Cockstock Incident
Add event in 1844 that abolishes slavery, removes all nogs, and blocks all nog immigration.
>Following the Cockstock Incident in 1844, the legislature decreed that African Americans could not reside in the Oregon Country
>On July 25, 1844, Peter Burnett introduced, and the legislature approved, the Black Exclusion bill, which prohibited African Americans from entering the territory and required all slave owning settlers in Oregon to release black slaves within three years of arrival, or the slaves would be immediately freed.[1] Furthermore, it called for all previous slaves to leave Oregon within two years for men and three years for women, or they would be whipped "not less than 20 nor more than 39 times" every six months.
>Beaver Coins
Minted in 1849 to fix the ongoing currency problem shortly after the Californian Gold Rush opened a serious trading partner. As such, they had much more gold in them than US coins. Not sure how you'd implement this, but this should help fix the horrific economic situation Oregon will probably be in at the start of the game a little.
eaaaba No.13957314
>>13957120
>First, the Oregon Provisional Government was pretty much independent except for the phrase "until such a time as the US would extend it's jurisdiction over us" in the constitution, which was added only last minute on the irl by the insistence of some Methodist faggots. I think there should be debate on whether this phrase is added or not, which really decides whether US has claim to annex (They're still going to do it regardless) and whether Oregon would lose land in the North during Oregon Treaty, right? What do you think? Or are we just assuming that the line will be in the constitution no matter what?
I think it's better to assume it's gonna be in the constitution, IMO an event in 1843 deciding whether or not should those Methodist faggots have a say on USA's jurisdiction could pretty much negate every other future Oregonian event; also what malus could I possibly add for that event? There's no religious distinctions between protestants (in game) so making every protestant pop have an increased consciousness and militancy to represent those pissed Methodists wouldn't make sense.
>I don't think refusing to become a vassal should trigger an escalation to war, as there was common sentiment in the US that Oregon could be independent, even among Presidents, of course. I would rather it be a relation decrease which might lead to war, depending on the AI. US should still have cores there, so war is pretty much inevitable.
Maybe refusing to join the union could remove your sphereling status.
>Service by Requirement at the outset is historically accurate.
Sure
>Cockstock Incident
I could overhaul the pops in Oregon as to make them more realistic (adding more Canadians, both anglo and frog, slaves and a bit more yankees)
>Beaver Coins
Sure, it could give the country a bonus to tariff, tax and admin efficiency.
Also, I wanted to ask, what parts of Oregon produce wheat? I know they supplies wheat to California during and after the Mexican-American war. Currently Oregon has no wheat-producing provinces, only timber and fish. I'll change Oregon city's tradegood to precious goods as to represent furs, so that province is out.
eaaaba No.13957370
>>13957314
Also these are ORN's flags.
f80b9c No.13958646
>>13957314
>I could overhaul the pops in Oregon as to make them more realistic
The biggest problem at the time was the biggest minority, the injuns. There was even a war Oregon took part in when they were independent, the Cayuse War, after which the Cayuse were almost genocided and eventually put in reservations with the other injuns.
eaaaba No.13958789
>>13958646
yeah but ain't doing that shit, at least it's going to my to-do list.
d4eecc No.13958802
>>13949636
I'd modify NWO to not be so shit
>everything that was contested ever is a separate state
>everything must turn into giant blobs sooner or later
>arbitrary events out the ass regarding pop ideology
83a1db No.13958856
>>13957370
Why the new tag? There is an Oregon State tag in the game
3577af No.13958929
>Vicky 2’s warscore is hardcoded at 100
>ignore it; dick around
>this happens at 1190 warscore
Yes, you can edit defines.lua to make war goals cost exponentially less, but that lowers the EFFORT required to get them, which leads to CPUs creating totally fucked up borders. I just wish warscore could require the same effort but be stackable ad infinitum.
The text overflowing outside the box would flash left and right on the screen constantly
eaaaba No.13958958
>>13958856
Yeah I just noticed that when I was adding the country. Was it ever implemented?
7c679c No.13959022
>>13958802
I guess the problem is that the AI is schizophrenic and doesn't have an actual plan to go by other than fucking with you. Would probably benefit if it had hardcoded and randomized "goals" so that it feels more natural, i.e. Russia wants to establish dominance over Eastern Europe by ways of assimilation or satellite countries, or it could eschew that for an economy based game). Would also make the game more fun if a significant number, or at least the GPs + some couple of lucky countries had this sort of behavior imposed unto them.
>>13958929
This could be easily fixed if whatever algorithm chooses war goals for the AI took notice of whether or not their country borders with their own, whether or not the POP will be assimilated, whether it can colonize, whether it's a strategic spot (so instead of annexing random bits of Egypt they'd go immediately for the richest or most chokepointy regions), whether they can just enforce political demands etc. instead of lol pick randum probinge :DD
83a1db No.13959114
055f37 No.13959372
is Aurora grand strategy?
5975fa No.13959399
>>13959357
Shut up, Bolshevik
f80b9c No.13960140
Are there any mods that are compatible with the newest version of CKII? All of the ones in the pastebin MEGA folder are outdated.
3577af No.13960358
>>13959022
Ah, but that would require effort put into the coding, anon. Paradox isn't a fan of that anymore.
Speaking of which, why isn't there a casus belli (or national decision) that you can use (or fire) which REMOVES foreign cores from your nation? The nation in question would be given the opportunity to declare war upon your choice (as a last ditch to get them back).
3577af No.13960372
>>13959357
Holy fucking shit, legitimately commit suicide.
d202a5 No.13960714
Anyone successfully play any gsg using wine? The appdatabases say they're all playable but I'm trying to play HOI 3 but it's not even launching, Victoria 2 crashes on startup and Darkest Hour manages to run for a few minutes but crashes. I'm not missing any DLL's or atleast I don't think so. Should I be using the development version instead of the stable? I'm using Mint 17.3 would I have better luck with a newer distro?
055f37 No.13960728
>>13960714
>Anyone successfully play any gsg using wine
No, but maybe You should try out Liquor, worked pretty well for Me.
d202a5 No.13961181
>>13960728
Liquorix kernel? Didn't know it existed, gonna do some reading before install I don't want to break shit. Thanks bruv.
576be9 No.13961647
why does china get all this?
they have tech 2 levels behind me too
d72065 No.13961806
>>13961647
BELIEVABLE WORLDS
20e0f4 No.13962363
b82389 No.13962390
>>13962361
Well yea, it is.
5a46ee No.13964458
Is stellaris playable?
Is it possible to make it with mods?
Why is it a shit game?
a17adc No.13964544
>>13964458
It is playable in vanilla, homever its incredibly bland and uninteresting after the early game, wich is actually pretty dope.
7c679c No.13964760
>>13960358
>Speaking of which, why isn't there a casus belli (or national decision) that you can use (or fire) which REMOVES foreign cores from your nation?
It's probably because "cores" are basically just areas of your own nation that your main POP lives in or has invaded for so long that they practically think of the people living there as their own. They could make a "force migration" CB (which was not that unlikely, considering that's what the T*rks and the Soviets did to Eastern Europe) where you force a good chunk of the region's population to go back into the defender's population, another chunk gets killed off and the rest are considered part of the non accepted POP while the main POP becomes your own.
a7d727 No.13964775
Can I prevent one of my children from inheriting a duchy by granting him a single province and then making him independent?
Also, if I give someone a tribal holding and then make him independent would he become a tribal ruler himself even though I'm feudal?
b82389 No.13964795
>>13964775
If in doubt, Gavelkind will fuck you.
The tribal shit might work but if he inherits your stuff he'll return to feudal afaik.
d85efb No.13965050
>>13960358
Because cores aren't a physical thing you can remove. Despite every peace treaty in history having the losing side renounce any claim to lost land for all eternity, they can always ignore this and use retaking their former land as a CB. Only way to stop this is some kind of 1984-style rewriting of history so that no one even knows it was owned by previous generations.
c6455a No.13965157
>>13953402
>not nuking LA or San Francisco
You had one simple job to do.
f80b9c No.13968040
>Play Ancient Aryan in Tarim Basin to play with China mechanics
>A wild Shlomo appears in my court!
>Send literal Shlomo to China for Grace
6f80a5 No.13969526
At this point I just hide and disregard any post with just an image.
389124 No.13970410
Will Paradox ever release their Clausewitz engine so people can actually make decent games from it?
931838 No.13970420
>>13968040
I had a Chink Emperor that "liked Germanic cultures" and "disliked Jews". BELIEVABLE WORLDS.
631115 No.13970431
>>13965157
>nuking invasion points
>having to deal with 0% infrastructure at supply stockpiles
did you ever play a gsg?
1996e1 No.13970433
>>13970410
>Paradox
>letting go of their monopoly
lol
5ca412 No.13972446
>EU4 patch changing Japan and the Indonesian region
>- Upped the weights for the Ottoman mission to conquer Constantinople even more
I'm fucking sick of this.
f80b9c No.13972995
>>13972446
What are they doing to glorious nippon?
64d456 No.13973099
>>13972995
They added a couple of the clans and gave them turbo military ideas. Not that its really matters since you can unite Japan before 1500 if you aren't retarded.
eaaaba No.13973164
>>13957314
What a disappointment, I can't find a way for the HBC to release Oregon as an independent nation, seems like dominions can't release independent nations via events.
We're gonna have to make do with a releasable Oregon, I've seriously tried everything in my power to make the independent Oregon events possible, but they just ain't happening, which is a shame.
I'm butthurt atm.
Could anyone with knowledge modding vicky2 lend me a hand?
5ca412 No.13973282
>>13973164
Can't you release as a vassal then have an event a day later removing vassalization?
eaaaba No.13973303
>>13973282
I'm kinda reluctant to change the way HBC works since it's tied to a shitton of events, maybe an event removing its substate status would break the game/event continuity.
I thought about making them independent, but you can't make them a dominion again via events since there's no code for that shit (just for normal vassals, no substates)
What's a real shame is that I can't make Oregon pop up outta fucking nowhere from the empty provinces.
931838 No.13973314
>>13972446
Paradox should just make Ottomans Universalis already, with exclusive young boy fucking mechanics.
eaaaba No.13973340
931838 No.13973344
>>13973332
>Kebabica
This hateful anti-Muslim slur will not stand on our fine board, sir! I respectfully disagree with this representation of the peaceful and culturally highly developed Ottoman Empire!
83a1db No.13973353
>>13973164
What command are you trying to use? Release or release vassal? Is Oregon an existing nation or just the provinces owned by HBC?
eaaaba No.13973417
>>13973353
secede_province
Hold the fuck up, release works/exists? I'm gonna try it with that.
83a1db No.13973474
>>13973417
Lad… release = tag or release_vassal = tag
eaaaba No.13973491
>>13973417
>>13973353
Yeah it works, thanks anon. Sadly I won't do shit till next year, got some holidays to enjoy.
d85efb No.13974143
>>13972995
You can now play Oda clan which are basically Prussia + reduced coring cost.
15e1ad No.13974488
>>13950200
Saw it coming and I still clicked it. God fucking damn it.
f80b9c No.13974532
>>13974143
>You can now play Oda
Oh coo-
>basically Prussia + reduced coring cost.
What the fuck. This breaks the game.
3577af No.13974566
>>13965050
And "cores" are a shit mechanic for this in-game. Cores are also responsible for being unable to fucking convert pops. And since there aren't any reliable genocide event mods, you have to either fuck with the conversion rate or manually delete cores from your save. This is fucking insane.
3577af No.13974567
>>13973344
You get banned for saying 'remove kebab' on alternatehistory.com. But then again, any statement on any topic made to the right of the Soviet Union circa 1989 is grounds for instant banning there.
d86366 No.13974577
>>13974567
>alternatehistory.com
Was that site ever good?
3577af No.13974600
>>13974577
I mean… where the fuck else can you have high level discussions about alternate history events? Can't do it on /pol/ anymore (in 2014-15 it would have been possible), and anywhere else on the Internet bans all right-wing thought anyway. I don't know of anything else.
d86366 No.13974678
>>13974600
I certainly have no idea, my friend. But I've heard of the rampant modcuckery and the shittiness of Ian the Admin there.
0f2eab No.13975645
>>13974600
create your own board here nigger
eaaaba No.13977334
>>13930959
Is EU: Rome any good? Are there any big/good mods for it?
d85efb No.13977409
>>13973164
>This breaks the game.
Well, it's not like you need good NIs to break the game. They are an OPM and one of the worse religions in the game.
Anyway let me show you how they break the game. -province warscore cost is pretty insane for feeding vassals. Here I took over 300 development in one war.
In sum, their NIs are: +10% morale +10% infantry combat ability to start, +10% goods produced, -10% core cost and -10% province warscore cost, +1 shock. +1 siege, +10% fire damage, -5% tech cost, +20% manpower, +1 fire.
ea1cc0 No.13977982
>>13977334
It's proto EU3:divine wind but it has numerous interesting mechanics that aren't present in any other paradox game like a pop system and certain types of goverments needing approval for diplomatic actions.
b4cc10 No.13978244
>>13974577
Has a great Neo-Nazi has his mind transported back in time and takes the place of Hitler story. Called "An extremely enthusiastic Hitler". He does things right, but also it is realy detailed about the histrrical situations and the evolution of the german army and how it fights.
Or for more traditional alternate history their is a great one of the Greek revolution (from the ottomans) which it looks like the Greeks avoid the civil war they had historically called "Pride Goes Before a Fall: A Revolutionary Greece Timeline"
Its a real shame the bad moderation has driven off some of their best board members.
a17adc No.13978273
>>13978244
So what happened to greece there?
b4cc10 No.13978357
>>13978273
Basically the battle of Devernka goes differently, the christian Albanians arnt detected before they sneak into the Turkish camp and are able to do real damage. This cause butterflies, making the Greek war effort better, which in turn mean the Greek financial situation is better, and that combined with a bit more success means tensions between the the Greeks are able to be managed. Also the disastrous foreign loans the Greeks got historically are on slightly better terms.
b4cc10 No.13978383
>>13978357
This is the Greek situation as of the last update, they have managed to blunt the egyption onslaught in morea, and the great [powers have intervened. They have forced the Egyptians to withdraw and as they were garrisoning Crete as well the Greeks have basically taken over the cities as the Egyptians leave, due to the Philhellenic representatives of the great powers blatantley favoring them.
d4eecc No.13978420
>>13974143
>You can now play Oda clan which are basically Prussia + reduced coring cost.
>even giving the many clans different national ideas
I would understand giving different ideas to a clan in northern Japan and one in Kyushu, but why the hell give turbo powers to clans who usually only reigned independent for short periods, having one or two notable figures, before vanishing back to obscurity? There weren't cultural or ideological differences between most of them, they just disagreed who gets to be the top Nip.
Instead, they should make the imperial court into a fucking game mechanic
a17adc No.13978434
>>13978383
>>13978357
Did the uprising in constantinople failed in this timeline too?
Also, post link please.
b4cc10 No.13978495
>>13978434
I think it did fail. As did the other Greek revolts in the Balkans
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/pride-goes-before-a-fall-a-revolutionary-greece-timeline.429475/
I think you can only read it with an account.
Also a key happening is the survival of George Canning as prime minister as he is much more pro Greek that wellington. As wellington was historically against Greece getting Samos and Crete. Combined with the extent of greek territory, they should get them in this Timeline. As in real life when the great powers intervened the Greek state had been reduced to a small strip of land in Argos and Corinth.
The extra land should enable them to hopefully avoid defaulting on the slightly better loans they have taken, as opposed to real history where they went bankrupt and it cause endless economic troubles that plagued the Greek state.
a17adc No.13978530
>>13978495
The greek independence war was such a sad shitshow, man.
It also depopulated most of central greece, didnt it?
b4cc10 No.13978559
>>13978434
Another timeline you might be interested in is "King Theodore's Corsica"
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/king-theodores-corsica.419096/
About a minor German noble and conman/debtor who historically was inspired to join the cause of the Corsican rebellion and was briefly the king of Corsica.
In the timeline his scheme to get dutch supplies for his army illegally works and he is able to do much better. Interestingly it could have worked in real life too, as the dutch were very sympathetic to his and the Corsican cause. It captured the imagination of a lot of people in Europe at the time.
So much so that you have the hilarious situation that Neapolitan counterfeit coins of The brief Corsican currency Theodore started were being sold as souvenirs. And they actually were much better quality and with much higher precious metal content than the real thing!
a17adc No.13978576
>>13978559
Heh, its like the exploits of gregor mcgregor.
b4cc10 No.13978599
>>13978530
Yeah i think so, but i believe the worst happened in Morea actually, Cause of the brutality of the Egyptians (Ibrahim Pasha the leader and son of the guy running egypt)
He was so bad that it was popular in Europe to talk about "Barbarisation" a supposed egyptian plan to kill and enslave all the greek population and replace them with loyal Muslims from Egypt and elsewhere. Its not know if this was a real plan but that people thought it was likely at the time just show the level of brutality we are talking about in their treatment of the Greeks.
0176bf No.13978606
>>13978559
Who gave that nigger pearls and a headband?
b4cc10 No.13978616
>>13978576
The Corsican had it really bad, throughout the rebellion historically they wernt even really fighting for independence, they were angling for the Spanish or the french to take over, and if that had been offered to them they would have instantly accepted.
The Genoese were not only stupidly brutal and oppressive to the Corsican. Its their rank incompetence which made them all the worse.
b4cc10 No.13978618
a17adc No.13978641
>>13978618
A scot soldier that went to fight in the venezuelan war of independence and managed to scam everybody involved (including brits) out of great ammounts of monies and got venezuelan patriots killed.
He also created a fictional kingdom and sold plots of land.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gregor_MacGregor
a17adc No.13978658
>>13978599
Yeah ive read a bit about it, but found it too depressing to keep going
.>>13978616
Why were they treated like that?
b4cc10 No.13978680
>>13978641
Interesting, ill have to look him up.
But from what you said i think they are a bit different, as i get the impression that Theodore did actually care about the Corsican cause.
b4cc10 No.13978706
>>13978680
My understanding is that they firstly just wernt great administrators of the island, but that more generally as Genoa declined (along with all the Italian city states) they tried to extract more and more from the Corsicans to make up for it. Leading to eventual almost comical oppression, like demanding twenty years back takes from the penniless Corsicans and stuff.
b4cc10 No.13978713
>>13978706
taxes, not takes
d85efb No.13978757
>>13978420
Oda is pretty much THE most important clan for the Sengoku period. If anyone deserve OP NIs its them.
I do agree in general, but Jap history of all the clans is well documented and they already have their own sort of stereotypical characteristics taken from other games/media about the period, so it's easy to put together a set of NIs compared to random muslim shithole in Arabia #10.
fabb00 No.13978776
I fucking hate paracucks so goddamn much. I felt like playing Stellaris so I pirated one of the new versions and they went and removed the purge button because it wasn't balanced for multiplayer since you can just kill off all the pops that are being a pain in the ass but now if you want to enslave xenos you have to have a million fucking planets to send them all to because you can't just get rid of a few anymore you either kill all the xenos or none of them. I can't believe how fucking assbackward their "fixes" to these multiplayer problems always are.
eaaaba No.13978908
>>13977982
But is it any good? I need me some good shit set in classic antiquity. I read somewhere about this Epigony mod adding eastern nations and shit on the Hindu Kush, that sounds fucking neat.
c8781f No.13978913
>>13978776
Multiplayer is the key to all of this.
fabb00 No.13978966
>>13978913
I don't know why they focus so much on the fucking multiplayer when 90% of their player base doesn't fucking play it. All they do anymore is ruin their games with retarded multiplayer bullshit and turk buffs because some people can still rebuild the Roman Empire if they get lucky and the planets align.
d66eb7 No.13978999
>>13978913
why are they so obsessed over multiplayer? I dont get it
c6455a No.13979006
>>13978966
>>13978999
>not knowing that paracucks are going for the mobile market to steal schekels from flash games
9868d7 No.13979008
>>13978999
They play multiplayer in their office and can't conceive that most people don't. Also it's probably an excuse to nerf stuff they don't like, such as white countries.
d4eecc No.13979052
>>13978757
Oda's sole claim to fame is Oda Nobunaga. One ruler who should get the best stats, but the fact that Oda was only independent for a short while, and disintegrated after Nobunaga died, proves that they didn't have any inherentadvantage over other clans, IMO. Nor a different culture or anything. I could understand it if maybe the Ikko-Ikki were formable, then they could have different NI's due to a drastically different ideology, but Oda has nothing of the sort as far as I am aware. This just smacks of Paracucks trying to add artificial depth in the shallowest way possible rather than actually creating a mechanic for one of the most popular historical settings of the period. What pisses me off even more is that they already attempted to do Japan in EU3 and in Sengoku, so couldn't they have just copy-pasted some of that shit over?
d85efb No.13979194
>>13979052
All NIs make basically no sense historically. I'd be totally in favor of getting rid of all of them. EU3's sliders were a way better way to do it. But it's clear Paradox considers NIs to be a set of buffs to be distributed according to the stereotypical specializations of a tag and powered up/down depending on random game balance inclinations. There's a lot of stereotypical specializations of various clans in Japan, so they get lots of special NIs.
Japan basically needs a CK2 or at least EU:Rome system to properly model it, but it's EU4 and everything has to fit in EU4 systems. In EU4 terms it would be Oda that united Japan and his successors would be more like a dynasty change/pretender since there's no EU4 mechanic for a clan to absorb multiple other clans who without a battle.
fabb00 No.13979263
>>13979006
>Trying to adapt the most normalfag unfriendly genre for mobile
That is even more retarded than them ruining their games on purpose to spite their player base.
ea1cc0 No.13979567
>>13978908
Like all non-mainline paradox games it's half baked and has lots of issues of it's own, unlike Crusader Kings 1 it's very much playable but if you've grown accustomed to features in EU3 they might not be present in the actual game. However, it's worth pirating to at least see what they attempted to do.
0bf459 No.13979907
>>13978908
It is with RotA. You can meme it up with Magna Terra but its a buggy mess
16338c No.13979926
>play Crusader Kings 2
>get my current character up to 12 personal combat skill and over 30 martial skill
>consistently loses in melee
What are some better grand strategy medieval games? I really liked the political gameplay of CK2 but the individual stats are broken and kind of ruin it for me. How can I make my warlord like this?
0bf459 No.13979953
>>13978576
>gregor mcgregor
Thanks for reminding me
eaaaba No.13980067
>>13979567
Sounds cool, I'm gonna try it out.
>>13979907
So what's the best meme mod combination? Just RotA?
d85efb No.13980188
>>13980067
RotA fills the map up but also fucks with the core gameplay in some bad ways. Play vanilla first. Magna Terra keeps to vanilla mostly but also crashes a lot.
626e15 No.13980946
>>13978244
I've tried to find the former story, but it definitely isn't listed under that name. Could you link it directly?
b83ccc No.13980963
>>13979926
>How can I make my warlord like this?
Like a chubby girl in a swimsuit?
b83ccc No.13980967
>>13977982
>like a pop system
I'm sold (pirating).
063790 No.13981392
>>13960714
i only managed to make darkest hour work
8b6916 No.13982033
So while I ws playing vic 2 with hpm mod as austria-hungary. I had all of the italian states in my sphere and none of them had rebels or anything(I had four armies in northern italy, just in case some italian rebels popped up anywhere. But one day suddenly italy formed without warning, with florence as the capital and papal states was reduced to one province(they even lost their over seas areas near ethiopia to italy. Naturally I declared war on italy as soon as possible. But why did it form? do italians have their equivalent of crown from gutter even? I also noticed that sqavoy(I conquered sardinia from them to make them back into secondary power) and two sicilies no longer have cores anywhere. so I guess my plan is to liberate other italian minors and conquer southern italy sans sicily. I already conquered turin from italy. How unfortunate, I really didn't want to conquer them, but sadly, I have no choice.
ff82b0 No.13982108
>>13980067
You might also want to try Epigoni mod. It doesn't add anything new to the barbaric areas (those mostly remain same as in vanilla, ie. empty) but it improves area around Mediterranean Sea. It adds historical characters, new provinces to Greece, Italy, North Africa, Anatolia and expands the map to the borders of India in the east. It also features earlier starting dates and Diadochi wars.
fe2ea0 No.13982175
>43BC Cicero, considered one of the greatest sons of Rome, is assassinated on the orders of Marcus Antonius.
Fucking nigger had it coming for opposing Caesar
fe2ea0 No.13982202
d343f3 No.13982235
>>13982108
>It also features earlier starting dates
How early? Roman monarchy? Etruscans?
ff82b0 No.13982338
>>13982235
I think the earliest date is 306 BC.
16338c No.13982829
>>13980963
Re-phrasal:
How am I supposed to build my character into a killing machine with these shitty mechanics fucking everything up.
91830d No.13983002
How do people expand in EU:Rome? I annihilated their fleet and occupied all of Carthage but could only take like 5 provinces.
Managing the politics and whatnot was fun but this obstacle kinda ruins the game.
f5ad02 No.13983476
>>13980946
>>13982202
https://www.alternatehistory.com/forum/threads/an-extremely-enthusiastic-hitler-si.421177/
Here it is, but remember you have to have an account to it.
The bit about the financial warfare department and how Germany is secretly in enormous debt and is using pozi schemes and stuff to hide it, cause they dont care about getting found out as long as it happens after the war starts.
This was started due to Self insert Hitler being aware that the abwehr is useless and traitorous. and when he finds an excuse to purge it (one of their historical fuck ups) they are able to recover evidence the abwer had of the soviet buildup. With this evidence Nu-Hitler is able to convince his cabinet to consider themselves already at war and take drastic preemptive military buildup, essentially trying to startup the total war economy before even declaring war.
f5ad02 No.13983482
>>13983476
Ment to say "I'm reading" at the start of the post
708ece No.13983575
>>13982829
tfw no thicc Byzantine Greek gf
a17adc No.13983614
>>13979953
Is that a vanilla event, somethimg from HFM or anon edits?
0892ca No.13983775
I'm having trouble loading a new campaign with EU4, using the Godlike rulers, Extended Timeline and one other mod I can't remember. once I load the new campaign it shuts down.
f5ad02 No.13983840
>>13983775
trying running it without one of the mods, keep switching which mod you turn off, until you isolate which one is causing the problem.
626e15 No.13984575
>>13983476
I don't get it. Since when does Alternate History have user-view-only threads? Fully half the categories are not allowed to be viewed by non-registered users; unregistered can view the mundane Before 1900, After 1900, Finished Timelines & Scenarios, Books & Media and Maps & Graphics forums. But they can't see the Writers' Forum, Alien Space Bats and Other Magic (where Hitler's brain replacement lives,) Fandom AH (popular media what-iffery) and Shared Worlds, for some reason. They aren't even indexed in search engines.
f5ad02 No.13984626
>>13984575
Its been like that for quite a while now I think. Dunno why they bothered really.
eaaaba No.13985189
>>13982108
Sorry for sounding like a retard, but how do I play with 2 mods? Wanna play with Epigoni and Magna Terra
a2cd22 No.13985256
is there a mod of warhammer fantasy for a GS game? i know there is one for CK2 but i dont want to bother whit it since CK2 is like The Sims whit politics, not much country management and also because the pastebin game download leads to some russian page (thanks again turkslayer for fucking up the MEGA)
ea1cc0 No.13986978
>>13983002
EU Rome has one of the longest time periods of any other GSG take your time, remember, it took 3 wars with Rome for Carthage to stop existing.
d343f3 No.13987673
>>13986978
It's 249 years, less than CK and EU.
abb55b No.13987756
>>13985189
You select them both. As long as they can work with each other.
945cb8 No.13987760
>>13986978
Do you think that’s Paradox’s retarded justification for being unable to annex a nation’s capitol state in Vicky II until all other states are gone?
0704a9 No.13988103
>>13987756
But it's a drop down menu, can't select both. Trying to play with rota & magna terra
d85efb No.13988373
>>13987760
That's to prevent situations of moving the capital, which can fuck up events and other mechanics.
e.g. Capital getting moved to America would give massive immigration bonuses while getting moved to Africa would make the CBs that partition Africa usable.
de8254 No.13988377
>>13987760
Annexing capital before other parts can be argued to be somewhat unrealistic but what if capital blocks rest of the country from invader?
ca36a1 No.13988573
>You have lived to see multiple series of games being run into the ground at once because Sweden can't stop being gay
9a9f8e No.13988609
Does anyone have a link to that autistic af thing where some guy made a list of all his monarchs from his game with a description of every one of them and the history? It was posted a few threads back
99282c No.13988669
945cb8 No.13988723
>>13988373
>which can fuck up events and other mechanics.
Sounds like an excuse for shitty coding, then. Instead of “change_capital ### to ###” or whatever, just make all capitals be independent of event nomenclature, and any event that changes them simply register the move without taking note of the origin. I mean, EU IV and CK2 can fucking handle that. The user can move the capital at any time.
>>13988377
Wouldn’t that be even more unrealistic? Say the capital is the part of the only state to touch the coast, with two or three inland states beyond it. The invader would have to annex the inland states (totally cut off from them as an enclave-exclave) before annexing the coastal capital province. It’s just bullshit overall.
As much as I absolutely dread Vicky III, maybe they’ll fix some of that shit in it.
063790 No.13988725
>>13985256
there is only mod for ck2 and that weird russian site is legit as fuck. just create burn account fam. it has ALL the dlcs in one place and is constantly updated
d85efb No.13988926
>>13988723
How would you tell whether a country was American or European then?
d85efb No.13989495
ff82b0 No.13989557
>>13985189
>>13988103
Make a copy of EU: Rome folder. Both Epigoni and Magna Terra modify map so it's impossible to have installed both.
d343f3 No.13989564
>>13989557
You're telling me this game is so old it doesn't have a module system?
ff82b0 No.13989585
>>13989564
It does have module system just like EU3 but mods which modify map cannot be installed alongside each other. It has something to do with map/cache/province_textures folder inside main EUR directory.
f5ad02 No.13990859
>>13988669
I wouldn't advise denying the holohoax on it if that what you are saying.
15e1ad No.13991290
b4509a No.13991295
>>13991257
I always see those "memes" as ways to try to gaslight against masculinity and patriotism to strike the white "enemy" before he will develop standards for glory.
f5ad02 No.13991330
>>13991257
I always get the sense that they guy who makes these is angered by Germania blob posting in a very autistic way.
Germany blob annoys me aswell, cause the whole point of Germany is to have a nation uniting the German people and made up of Germans. But that seems like the opposite of the point that the anti Germany blob poster is trying to make, as they presumably dont like the idea of ethnostates.
8d2b78 No.13991358
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13991330
There are things worse than german blob.
daf4f7 No.13991375
>>13991330
>cause the whole point of Germany is to have a nation uniting the German people and made up of Germans
In case you missed the last 60 years of Marxist brainwashing, the narrative says that the whole point of Germany is to take over the entire world and make lampshades out of jews.
f5ad02 No.13991380
>>13991358
He is my game where i try to get close to perfect Russian borders, was considering eating the rest of Persia and then finishing up my Caucasian borders.
f5ad02 No.13991400
>>13991375
I know what Germany is know, but i meant the original idea of Germany, that people meant when they advocated the creation of a German state.>>13991375
c649c0 No.13991772
>>13989495
I'm going to be playing HoI3 for the rest of my life, aren't I?
34b252 No.13991826
>>13991380
>>13991358
>Russia conquring the entirety of East Europe and the Pacific
Forget about the Germanics, The Rusmongrel Asianatic must be stopped.
f5ad02 No.13992048
>>13991826
I think you'll find the Balkans are vassals, and only took Tsargrad for myself.
East Asia is just eastern Australia plus some islands that will be necessary for power projection in the region(power projection was a problem even the USSR had), although i did want all of Australia but didn't have the time. The vast resources present were to be my pacific Siberia.
And Manchuria i suppose, but thats pretty standard for an imperial Russia, also gunna be necessary to give strategic depth in the east and to secure a warm water port.
Just looked and found that later i also fucked chian and made korea my bitch.
d343f3 No.13992816
Hide and report, newfags.
3b14d8 No.13993103
d343f3 No.13993900
The war with Rome has been going surprisingly well, owing to my army composition (horse archers are great). It's actually meaningful in this game, unlike the other Paradox GSGs.
That pinkish province at the top are the Nitobroges, an Irish band that invaded Gaul just a few years after I managed to drive away the Cornish Dumnonii. I'm thinking of leaving that province alone and just extracting tribute from whoever currently happens to be settled there. Each uncolonized province has a population which grows over time, and as they get bigger there's a chance that a horde will spawn and head for the nearest civilized province; or the richest as they often skip Gaul and go toards Rome.
91fb21 No.13994029
>>13993900
How do you play this game?
d343f3 No.13994184
I was getting worried over my manpower (3600 for 15000 troops) when I realized Rome had literally 0 left.
>>13994029
What do you mean?
ff82b0 No.13994205
>>13994184
Manpower is more important than money in EU: Rome. In vanilla you usually have plenty of cash but lack manpower.
d85efb No.13994302
>>13993900
Protip: Send armies through unoccupied land constantly, kill the tribal stacks for slaves that go back to your capital.
261770 No.13995215
Can someone post the decision text for form Arabia from Victoria 2?
I must've fucked it up because when I enact the decision I don't gain any cores.
3b14d8 No.13995720
>>13993900
>vanilla
Horrifying
d343f3 No.13995874
>>13995720
I even played my first EU3 game in vanilla (with no expansions either).
945cb8 No.13996628
>>13996614
>playing Hearts of Iron 4
Aha, I found your problem.
fd0783 No.13996636
>>13996628
I'm waiting on the download for Darkest Hour to be finished at the moment so figured I'd have some fun in 4 by amping the Axis bonuses to maximum. I did not expect this fucking steamroller, however.
7c679c No.13998049
>>13996614
Build up as high as possible level forts around the coastline Japan has navally invaded you, set your planes and navy to intercept enemy troops and try and boost relations with another Asian country like the Phillipines so that Japan gets preoccupied with taking them down and forgets about you.
91830d No.13998329
>>13995720
Any good mods for it?
I keep fucking up the installation for that Wiz one.
c6455a No.14000505
MEIOU 2.1
My game as Bannu Rassi, de facto Yemen.
The Islamic empires are damn powerful but I've seen Ottos being defeated by Venice.
Peasant uprisings are damn annoying in this mod. Had like. blobbed quite a lot though
2ac0f7 No.14000607
Any tips on how to survive the independence war as greece/epirus on concert of europe?
>>14000505
>all of those ugly blobs
>blobbing into persia
Ew man, have some taste.
a424b2 No.14000661
>>13998608
Fuck off Imkikey
c6455a No.14000825
>>14000607
>not going for rich provinces like Fars(rugs) and Ormozgan(second trade gateway towards Europe) as the happy jew I am
Plus I need to have a knife near my enemies heart. You'd be surprised how gelded Persia actually is when Istfan is 1 province away and their capital 2.
Same thing as Mamelukes.
And this is Meiou so there's not much space for mistakes. Especially for low piety, naval nation like me. The ugly borders are for a reason.
ff82b0 No.14000865
>>14000505
>scandinavia
>britain
>utrecht in netherlands and netherlands in belgium
cancer
also who owns that green province in ireland?
d85efb No.14000986
>tfw entire known world is out of manpower.
Also I never realized how tough the lategame of EU:Rome actually was. Literally the only Paradox game in which conquering the entire map is interesting. Since manpower is limited but regiments are cheap, the AI nations that only blob half as much as you eventually build up hundreds more regiments than you can hope to use. And since conquered pops mostly become slaves, all your extra land doesn't help as much and just leaves you an overextended mess trying to use useless mercenaries.
fe2ea0 No.14001018
>>14000661
>Being THIS assblasted
fe2ea0 No.14001022
c6455a No.14001084
>say no to wahhabis that want a theocracy
>i'm not converting 1/4 of my country
>fuck kill em all
>get this
Allah give me strenght
>>14000865
Butler.
The dynastic map is even funnier.
3b14d8 No.14001323
>>13998329
Thats the only good one. I think there is a readme in the archive that could help
2f56a1 No.14003762
GAS THE KIKES
RACE WAR NOW
f8c455 No.14003819
>>14001084
Well, I see they at least got Arab chimp- I mean politics right.
b384a6 No.14003837
>>13995215
that pic isnt even a joke most of the people who play ETS2MP are turks
ddb99d No.14004307
>>14003819
Oh yeah, in meiou Muslims will constantly rebel until you convert them or run them off your country.
c6455a No.14004665
>>14003819
>>14003819
Luckily they zerg rushed me so I parked my three star general with 20k troops on a mountain province.
c847bb No.14005307
Any good Europa Universalis 3 mods? Preferably one that makes the east specifically Japan more interesting.
063790 No.14005370
>>14005307
have you tried playing sengoku? sure its old as fuck but it works fine
d85efb No.14005760
>>14005307
EU3+ adds a shit ton of Japan clans.
c847bb No.14006113
>>14005760
Any place to download it from if I have a pirate copy?
70beb8 No.14006151
>>14006113
The internet, the OP, places like that.
c847bb No.14006439
My Europa Universalis 3 crashes when I try to run the "EU3+" mod, it doesn't even display the title screen.
70beb8 No.14006476
>>14006439
Check the internet to learn where to fucking put mods.
I swear to got, every fucking time. And next you will tell me "But I am putting them int he mod folder! What more do you want from me?!"
c847bb No.14007080
>>14006476
Don't try to play JoJo anon, and nevermind, I found out that I actually have two EU3's on my computer, an old legal version from a disc without all the DLC that I forgot to delete and I just put the mod in that folder.
38cd29 No.14014452