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dc84e1 No.13892330

does /v/ like The Phantom Pain? for all the talk I see about prefering gameplay > story as a general rule, all I read about this game is that it's shit because the story is shit.

I have to say that I've liked it, it's not without flaws but overall I think it's one of the best games of the gen, I have to say that I don't care for story at all (the only mainline MGS I didn't play was 4 cuz no ps3). I think it's one of the few mainstream non-RPG games that really gives you freedom and variety of playstyles, I've beaten all missions in every possible way. People usually argues that it's pointless because there's a "most efficient way of playing" which is missing the point, I mean, why replay Fallout 1 other than using a high AG/IN build with small arms and speech? obviously the point is having fun even if the approach isn't the most OP thing ever. Funnily enough, the ones complaining about the game being über-easy are those who don't want to play the game without tranquilizer guns. There's lot of ways to make the game challenging and engaging. OG Deus Ex is easier than TPP and it's not a blemish to the game IMO.

Another strong point is that the game is quite moddable (for PC). If you want to go nuts and make the enemies have über-realist sight & hearing, you can do it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-QS_dlTxDQ&t=1s

There's too much negativity surrounding this game but it's easily the most fun I've had with a MGS title besides 3. Thoughts?

12a734 No.13892337

>>13892330

Don't bother, kojimaboos are gonna sagebomb you to death.


10072b No.13892338

File: 410103ae517bf23⋯.jpg (Spoiler Image, 331.93 KB, 1920x1080, 16:9, 2015-11-11_00061.jpg)

I liked it alot.

Konami fucked it alot.

It will never reach its full potential.

But its still a good game.


cb4a41 No.13892342

> for all the talk I see about prefering gameplay > story as a general rule, all I read about this game is that it's shit because the story is shit.

And this is precisely why the gameplay > story meme has zero actual value.


12a734 No.13892346

>>13892338

>using that crap nude mod

Get the full one man.


5b378e No.13892348

>does /v/

No, we fucking hate it. Now get out.


2ac52e No.13892364

File: f26ddadcb631187⋯.jpg (68.72 KB, 800x450, 16:9, MGS3-Naked-Snake-Virtuous-….jpg)

>>13892330

I un-installed when all my ooga booga speaking staff started dropping dead.

Put them in quarantine and they still die in droves.


1cc443 No.13892373

File: d7257b008e6faff⋯.jpg (57.91 KB, 259x274, 259:274, supercig.jpg)

It's an amazing sandbox game to fuck around with and do objectives in unorthodox ways but the game was overly hyped as fuck. Doubly so considering the dev hell Konami put kojimbo's team through.

>mfw hearing that Konami would force his team to shuffle their computers and desks around the office on an almost weekly basis to the point months of dev time was lost


99aba4 No.13892376

>does /v/ like x

Lurk moar.

I've been enjoying MGS5 though I haven't really played any of the other games. Every so often I wonder if I'm actually playing the game right though. Some times Miller has an orgasm over the codec about how good I am but then I get A rank at the end of the mission. Also I always seem to get bat and octopus ever since I stopped getting chick. No idea what they mean though.


081ace No.13892378

Metal Gear??


ecf50d No.13892379

>>13892330

>implying a game that isn’t even finished can ever be called good, no matter the gameplay

>implying the gameplay being good matters when the worlds and scenarios are so bland and repetitive

Stop apologizing and excusing for an incomplete game.

>>13892364

>letting a non-white race set foot on Mother Base

>not making a lagoon of the blood of soldier coons

>not shooting the balloon if you accidentally Fulton a coon


ecf50d No.13892381

>>13892373

>shuffle their computers and desks

I’m sorry, what?


12a734 No.13892388

>>13892379

>implying a game that isn’t even finished can ever be called good, no matter the gameplay

Faggot all games are incomplete compared to the dev's vision.


dc84e1 No.13892390

>>13892379

>>implying a game that isn’t even finished can ever be called good, no matter the gameplay

Deus Ex wasn't finished either, no white house mission, no unatco path, no female denton, lots of cut stuff, surely a shit game :^)


1cc443 No.13892391

>>13892381

Guy who pays kojimbo's checks comes down and tells him to move his team because this room will be used for something. Turns out moving computers and desks around takes a bit of time when working with a large team. Repeat that 2-3 times a month.


4f1259 No.13892396

I'm /v/ and I don't like it.


12a734 No.13892401

>>13892396

Well there you have it OP.


0012d8 No.13892414

>>13892330

I enjoy the gameplay but the story is a dumpster fire and sitting through at least a minute of credits before each mission was a fucking pain, and not a phantom one at that


2b8cde No.13892420

File: a82958959dc5ae3⋯.jpg (87.36 KB, 717x430, 717:430, Eli is Reddit.jpg)

MGSV TPP & GZ were both great games. Anyone who passionately disagrees need to head on back to reddit a.s.a.p. The writing was on the wall, Eli is the avatar of the kiddo who wont accept their Phantom Pain™.

>But anon my cinematic story!

see >>13872932


48c020 No.13892430

File: 486d2b9abb83ead⋯.jpg (314.81 KB, 1413x2048, 1413:2048, 486d2b9abb83eadcbe0c9a29a3….jpg)

I'm still playing it and I'm having fun.

That said, I heard it's a fun game, but a horrible Metal Gear game.

Konami butchered the game by rushing it and making they pretty much make the game over from 0 because they wanted it to run on last gen.

Not even half-way into the game yet and I can see what people mean. The open world is pretty fun, plus the mother base is really nice, but there's no monolithic forts to infiltrate, no giant factories with no place to rest in and full of enemies.

Someone post the original story greentext, I lost it.

>>13892376

>>13892348

That's a shitty way to start a thread, but at least it wasn't a single-sentence (1) and gone.

>>13892390

No WTC :^).


dc84e1 No.13892467

>>13892430

>That said, I heard it's a fun game, but a horrible Metal Gear game.

I don't even know what that means

MGS 1 & 2 fine, you can see the similarities, but then 3 comes, put less emphasis on story, changes mechanics a lot, couldn't feel more different than the previous MGS. So people enjoy it anyway, and Kojimbo brings MGS 4 with more story again, but changing gameplay and mechanics once again. Kojipro twists the formula once again for V and suddenly is bad and heretical. I think fans are just petty because the game didn't end up as the fan-fiction of their dreams


12a734 No.13892476

>>13892467

>I think fans are just petty

Yeah, pretty much.


ecf50d No.13892485

>>13892388

>parroting autistic Frankfurt school “logic”

Okay, run along now.

>>13892391

That’s fucking shit. I hadn’t heard that part yet.


48c020 No.13892488

>>13892467

Read my post.

>The open world is pretty fun, plus the mother base is really nice, but there's no monolithic forts to infiltrate, no giant factories with no place to rest in and full of enemies.

Metal Gear was always about infiltrating giant bases with little to no support. In MGSV all you have to do is snipe the 5 people in the small complex and you're done, maybe 7 for the Emmerich mission in Afghan.

It's a fun game, honestly I wouldn't change much of the existing content, but there should be a bit more emphasis on the infiltrating bases part. One medium one for each area, then a bigger one for the last mission would be perfect.


2b8cde No.13892503

>>13892430

>>13892467

>but a horrible Metal Gear game

its just not what autistic kiddos expected. That false explication can explain 99.9% of its detractors. One could also say the same about Peace Walker being not a "true metal gear" dude to it changing the formula. But that would be silly because Peace Walker is the "best" Metal Gear in terms of fun content, with V being a close runner-up. While its generally universally accepted even by myself that MGS3 was holistically the best game its clearly not the only standard bearer in defining what is and what is not a "Metal Gear" game.


2b8cde No.13892515

>>13892467

^also, if its not clear, I am not essentially disagreeing with you*


48c020 No.13892524

>>13892503

>Peace Walker

How's the game? I bought the PS3 pack, so I already have it, but I haven't played it yet.


144c96 No.13892529

>>13892346

dont u know teasing is hotter?


dc84e1 No.13892532

>>13892488

3 had less than that. in V at least you get the ep. 12 complex, the oil refinery, the airport, taking back the motherbase (and subsequently FOB matchups) and OKB Zero, plus GZ


12a734 No.13892540

>>13892529

Wrong But that's probably because I'm into exhibitionism.


df5285 No.13892552

>>13892330

The gameplay is very solid, however it's the exact same things over and over again with very little variety. So the gameplay can't carry it through all the way.


cbe4ca No.13892573

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>>13892330

I'm still trying to get through Ground Zeroes. It's not a get-gud thing, it's a "…well, if I want a sandbox mayhem game, GTA does this better. If I want a story game, anything non-Kojima past MGS1 does it better (although MGS2 gets an honorable mention, the story was ok). And if I want emergent gameplay, there are other games that do that better too." I'm just caught up on what the hell MGS wants to be these days. I miss MGS1, where the plot was campy at times but still somewhat believable (I mean, WHAT THE FUCK is with Liquid being INSIDE THE ARM that Ocelot grafted on? You can quote me Clark's 3rd law all you want, that shit was immersion breaking). I miss the Solid Snake days I guess, the series has only been a succession of letdowns since that first high water mark.

Fuck Raiden.

So I guess if it ever goes on $5 mega sale I'll pick it up just to do the nude mod.


2b8cde No.13892577

File: 315d8f4a31b3dd5⋯.jpg (232.39 KB, 1280x725, 256:145, pw2.jpg)

>>13892524

>How's Peace Walker

I loved every second of it and 100% the game. At first I wasn't really into it but by the end it became my personal favorite Metal Gear game. The mission based Monster Hunter influences are unashamedly worn on its sleeve. I honestly wish that TPP & GZ were more like Peace Walker.


e87331 No.13892616

File: a7a5d2cd2c98f77⋯.jpg (104.2 KB, 1366x768, 683:384, jj.jpg)

>>13892573

i hated how much raiden was pushed to be "cool". hated him till the end. would've preferred to see him do a transformation into someone likable but instead went further away from it with MGR and his combat high heels


48c020 No.13892617

>>13892532

3 had a bunch of small interconnected complexes, which was pretty fun. You infiltrated a lab that was already more complex than any base in Afghan in MGSV, then went to the bigger complex via an underground tunnel.

The thing is, the space between the complex was part of the complex, meaning it was heavily guarded, so you needed to sneak between enemy trenches and then go underground where that fucking fire faggot atacked you. You had no place to rest and that made it fun.

>pe. 12 complex

Sneaking past the chopper in the first part was fun, but the place was still really small, if anything it looked like an entrance to some big factory which it was probably supposed to be before Konami. The "complex" itself was no big deal either, you had a larger place, sure. But it was almost flat ground with a few trucks on it and 11 guards. I'll admit escaping from the metal gear was fun, but that place wasn't anything in special.

>oil refinery

You mean one of the first missions in Africa? That was too easy. Sneak in, place a c4, blow it to distract the 8 guards while you shut down the thing and done. Just having some sort of underground level beneath that would've made it way better and closer to the "less" that MGS3 had.

I haven't played the rest yet though.

>>13892541

>>13892573

>I mean, WHAT THE FUCK is with Liquid being INSIDE THE ARM that Ocelot grafted on?

Is this pasta? If not, play MGS4. It's not that great, but the boss fights are really fun.

>>13892577

The graphics really turned me off, so I didn't get past the tutorial. Though so did MGS1's and I fucking loved it.

I guess I'll give it a try some other day.


8dde25 No.13892630

/v/ liked it when it came out, but now everybody seems to act like hipsters.


dc84e1 No.13892658

>>13892630

I think there's a clear division between those who played it at launch immersed in all the hype and those who waited patiently and didn't have great hopes. I waited 8 months after release, back when everyone told me it was the worst experience of their lifetimes and instead had a great surprise with the game. I think it's a bit like MGS 2, where it disappointed the fandom at release due to missed expectations but eventually gained cult status amongst those who knew already about the raiden switcharoo and the post-modern stuff


dc84e1 No.13892665

>>13892658

fuck, read it the wrong way


26afd3 No.13892675

>>13892616

The entire reason this "push to cool" happened is because fucking faggots who didn't realize what purpose Raiden served in the narrative.


23fbbe No.13892816

>>13892330

Kind of a mixed bag. Story isn't as good as the previous entries, the open world isn't really used effectively, side missions feel largely samey and repetitive, and the bosses aren't to great minus the final boss. BUT, the game controls extremely well and can be a very mechanically brilliant game when playing through core story missions or simply dicking around with mechanics to see what works. Likely would have been much better if Konami didn't shit up it's development and simply let Kojimbo's autism run free


ad4200 No.13892829

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>>13892540

>predude nudity

Degenerate.


a5deaf No.13892832

File: f0d7d83ed96089a⋯.png (670.73 KB, 697x860, 697:860, 1448841163471.png)

I have been really wanting to play through MGS 1, 2 and 3 recently. I already have the PS2 emulator set up, but does anyone know of a good PlayStation 1 emulator? Will hopefully move on to 4 and 5 after.


2b8cde No.13892835

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>>13892630

it was a 50/50 mixed bag honestly from day one but I forced memes like hell to shame anyone who cried never be gayogre TBCH.


dc84e1 No.13892844

>>13892832

MGS 1 & MGS 2 both have a PC version


727e7b No.13892846

>>13892832

Retroarch Beetle is okay.


2b8cde No.13892855

>>13892844

yes its called Mednafen & PCSX2 :^)


429fed No.13892880

>>13892630

Most anons didn't want to admit they wasted money on an unfinished repetitive mess of a game which also has denuvo and microtransactions, no shit they said they liked it.

I do like how the game plays and some of the writing, but I still can't say it's a good game


8bc930 No.13892926

I mean the player control was incredibly fluid, never felt that fast and slick in any third-person shooter before.

But the game was kinda dull and shit. Hard to get into and hard to stay interested for a long time.


215587 No.13893169

File: 18e72a2a546e45a⋯.jpg (9.57 KB, 257x196, 257:196, 18e72a2a546e45a0d1ce774396….jpg)

Great as a TPS with optional stealth. Crap as an actual dedicated stealth game and as a Metal Gear game, although the series peaked at 3 anyways.

I can still install it and have fun which is more that I can say about most games though and is still probably the best 20 bux I ever spent, but I ain't gonna pay more than that for it.


194e71 No.13893233

>>13892348

>we

more like (you)


3f889e No.13893239

File: 24272b2879b427b⋯.jpg (253.01 KB, 680x1024, 85:128, 1469413081941-3.jpg)

>story was shit and left unfinished

>they took my main bitch away, permanently, after unlocking all her fucking shit - unforgivable

>half the fucking game was just replaying old missions

>the two sandbox levels got really tiresome after a while, to the point where it was a drag to navigate through them

>you get penalized for using your own fucking equipment

>why did they make mother base facilities a million miles away from the command center? did they do it to waste my fucking time? I think so.

>no Big Boss Hard difficulty/new game plus

>have to connect to the internet to unlock important single player content

>if you don't visit mother base for no reason like an asshole, over and over again, you miss the best cutscenes in the game.

>you're just some faggot grunt that got plastic surgery to look like big boss

Fuck you OP.


12a734 No.13893250

File: 7d26c408991919c⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 423.88 KB, 1000x650, 20:13, MaSsEIB.png)

File: adbd283898e267b⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 838.05 KB, 800x1124, 200:281, RU3eYAQ.png)

File: e763016ce5fd37a⋯.png (Spoiler Image, 933.01 KB, 850x1335, 170:267, IzZMVdn.png)

File: 07a6a40992eb48d⋯.jpeg (Spoiler Image, 72.83 KB, 693x1000, 693:1000, 1447848062169-1.jpeg)

>>13892829

There is nothing more pure than a woman embracing her female form.


cd0fe8 No.13893292

>>13893250

>3rd pic

SUPPA TENKOOOOOOOOO


aec7b8 No.13893300

Would Kojima and pals have been able to finish the game if they hadn't spent so much money on making their own engine and just used an existing one? How would the game have turned out if they did that?


48c020 No.13893562

>>13893300

I don't think so.

It wasn't a matter of money, they weren't going over budget or anything.

Konami just rushed them a lot and according to an anon last-gen consoles really held them back.


460f63 No.13893648

>>13892330

The base gameplay is extremely solid, the unlocks can keep you going for a long ass time and like you said there's a lot of playstyle variety. It's good but it's also surrounded by a lot of dumb shit

>Lots of very cool guns, gadgets and companion abilities

<Locked behind ''real time time limits'

>Interesting missions

<1/4th of the game is replaying past missions

>Kojima hypes this game's story up as being about Big Boss' descent into hell and him becoming a villain

<BAIT AND SWITCH

>Very large maps

<With almost nothing of interest

Also I will forever be mad that they cut the Battle Gear because it was unbalanced.

I SPENT LIKE A DOZEN MISSIONS ASSEMBLING MY TANK AND NOW IT CUCKS ME WITH MY OWN TROOPS.


6de3b4 No.13893698

File: 5945ea1d42b5fbd⋯.png (9.58 KB, 305x275, 61:55, I always wanted you to pos….png)

It's the only relevant singleplayer game since 2010 tbh.


8ce9a3 No.13893790

>>13893698

you're fucking retarded. there have been plenty of single player games that have come out since then. go fuck yourself, kojima fanboy shitstain.


fa6cae No.13893840

Is it just me, or has anti-Kojimaism become far more obnoxious and cringy than being a Kojima fanboy ever could be?

Examples being people like >>13893790


c9f1b9 No.13893896

File: e2d134356521698⋯.jpg (120.68 KB, 1200x900, 4:3, kojiabrams 1.jpg)

File: b35dc82ea90ba70⋯.jpg (87.59 KB, 1280x743, 1280:743, kojiabrams 2.jpg)

File: edc9b7bbf989ccd⋯.jpg (120.65 KB, 1680x927, 560:309, Kojima Del Toro.jpg)

File: 212d388c64888a9⋯.jpg (56.06 KB, 710x434, 355:217, Kojima with Naughty Dog.jpg)

>>13893840

Death Stranding is going to be an interactive movie with leftist narrative. There's no reason to support this man.


e871aa No.13893897

>>13893840

To be honest I think they're both about the same level of garbage tier posting.

I feel like I'm one of a dying breed of people who play games for the game rather than who made them or what system they're on or what company paid for their development.


92cf8f No.13893900

>it still hurts


18bc43 No.13893908

File: 9f51ea1cd5d9f81⋯.jpg (191.35 KB, 740x740, 1:1, 2938171829.jpg)

I've still never played a Metal Gear Solid game but Mesal Gear Solid

Mesal Gear Solid was pretty good though


e871aa No.13893924

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13893908

>Mesal Gear Solid

>Mesal

>we will build a shitting platform in the ocean to rival the mother street in Delhi.


8f6947 No.13894207

I've always played MGS for the gameplay and have never been particularly interested its the story, and I still absolutely hated 5. I genuinely don't understand what people are talking about every time they go all "aw man sure it's a shit game but it has the best gameplay in the series for some reason I won't describe." It's like I played a different game to everyone else.

>AI are all blind as bats

>CQC is incredibly dumbed down compared to MGS4

>regenerating health makes getting spotted less dangerous than ever

>you get an unskippable ~30 second helicopter cutscene every time you embark on a mission

>the "boss fights" are garbage even without comparing them to the rest of the series'

>have to wait in real time for gadgets to be crafted like a cheap mobile app

>no interesting weapons like 2's HF Blade, 3's Patriot or 4's dolls/emotional tranq bullets/tornado musket/solar gun, just a flying robot arm that's functionally identical to the batarang in Arkham Asylum

>camo system is far too forgiving

>both worlds are totally devoid of any interesting level design

>buddies make every base/encampment an absolute pushover

>vast majority of missions are filler shit like destroy/capture vehicle X, kill/capture guy Y or go to camp Z and steal resources that you'll never use and it gets really repetitive really fast

>tons of sections where it limits your control, forces you to walk slowly and listen to poorly written exposition that nobody gives a shit about

>worst multiplayer in the series by a huge margin

>microtransactions out the ass

But it's apparently the best gameplay in the series regardless of all this trash because Snake feels marginally better to control than in MGS4, I guess?

And the worst part is it's not even fun to mess around in like you would expect an open world game to be. Your toolset is so limited and lacking in variety compared to 3 and 4 that you can't be anywhere near as creative as you can in those games, especially since the open worlds are both just flat plains of nothing and there's very little level design to abuse in creative ways.

I don't care about the story to be honest. I just wanted a good game and I got some half baked blend of stealth and open world action that isn't a good stealth game or a good open world action game.


ecf50d No.13894298

>>13892675

What purpose was that?


ecf50d No.13894322

>>13893924

>>13893908

>“I won’t scatter your feces to the heartless toilet… You’re all coprolites…”

Mission 43 (Shitting Streets, Even In America) was my favorite.


f12dd6 No.13894509

>>13892376

The ranking is speed based.


c6d095 No.13895107

File: 22ae067b142a569⋯.png (2.65 MB, 1920x7356, 160:613, mgs.png)

>>13892430

This one?


f4fb66 No.13895115

>>13893239

Not to mention the 10 minutes of "Conceived by kojima, enlarged by kojima, made by kojima, prepped by kojima" you have to watch before doing anything ever.


6f24ac No.13895126

>>13894509

>speed based.

The wiki says it's what your takedowns are mostly composed of. The first game was speed based I'm pretty sure.


9042c6 No.13895184

File: da6e0779c49f567⋯.png (193.4 KB, 1552x480, 97:30, mgsautism.png)


48c020 No.13895214

>>13894207

The thing is, they opted over having a chopper hand you items as opposed to having everything on yourself, like usual, so they had to cut cammo/weapon uses to make up for the player possibly not upgrading/having an item on him. IMO that was quite dumb, the weapons part was a shot in the foot, though the cammo was simply casualization.

I like the upgrade system and having a chopper give you ammo, but letting you keep one item of each category or something would've allowed them so much more. Though it's not like they couldn't have kept the current system, given you one of each needed weapon type at the start and then dropped it off nearby as needed in story missions.

>But it's apparently the best gameplay in the series regardless of all this trash because Snake feels marginally better to control than in MGS4, I guess?

I liked MGS4's bosses and the last two minutes, but the movement was kind of bad. The thing about MGSV is that the movement is really fucking fluid, it does simple shit like turning the character around before walking when you go back, but it just makes the character feel so much better than other TPS games.

>And the worst part is it's not even fun to mess around in like you would expect an open world game to be.

>he does't blast rebel yell while driving around a jeep and clearing outposts with quiet

That's just like, your opinion man.

>>13894298

AFAIK he was a self insert for the player.

You as a player wanted to be Solid Snake, the badass in MGS. So, in comes MGS2 baiting you with "be Solid Snake!", only to have you play as yourself, Raiden, the unexperienced snake fanboy who doesn't know anything and is in a simulation to be the next snake, even though you don't realize it.

The enemies you're fighting are just there to train you, the people giving you help are just AI, snake is just a another character.

>>13895107

Yeah.

Whenever I read it I get mad and want to nuke Konami, but I always read it all the way.

Just imagine what games would be if there weren't old men in suits butchering them and selling the pieces.

>>13895115

At least you can skip that, you can skip the heli parts.

>>13895126

This. You can see what you did in game, in, I think, the encyclopedia or by looking at the custom emblems you've got.

It's mostly about what was your type of gameplay.

I get fox when things go right, which's killing people without being seen.


48c020 No.13895226

>>13895214

>At least you can skip that, you can skip the heli parts

*you can't skip the heli parts


8493db No.13895310

>M-M-M-M-MUH KOJEWMA DID NOTHING WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

>MGSV WAS SHIT ONLY BECAUSE OF KONAMI!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Get over yourselves


7498a5 No.13895312

It's almost like the hivemind is super hypocritical here, or something.

For the most part, MGS:V is a really solid game. The last truly great MGS was 3, IV and Peace Walker are both flawed in some inherent ways that make them inferior to that particular game. V is no exception, except the flaws are story oriented and not gameplay oriented.

V is a very good game, and I think most anons are either just running on the hate bandwagon because it makes them feel cool or they're storyfags who got burned by the gameplay focus.

I enjoyed it a lot, despite the disappointment on the story front, I got a good 200 hours or so out of some solid sneaking gameplay. With mods, it's an even better experience.


48c020 No.13895333

>>13895312

There's literally nothing wrong with 3 other than the easy bosses.


a118b9 No.13895367

>>13892330

It's a decent game, but open world really doesn't suite stealth gameplay. It's like Resident Evil 4; It's a great game in it's own merit, but it's a bad 'Metal Gear' game.


94f61b No.13895375

>>13895312

>V is a very good game, and I think most anons are either just running on the hate bandwagon because it makes them feel cool or they're storyfags who got burned by the gameplay focus.

So you enjoy doing the exact same side missions in the exact same areas, with maybe some new equipment on the same patrols, going the same patrol routes, and then redo everything again only this time with red vehicles? Once you reach the final parts of the game it's basically replaying everything you've already did before with rarely any unique missions to break the monotony. Multiplayer is great though, which is what everyone did after people realized that.


a118b9 No.13895381

>>13892577

Have people finally warmed to Peace Walker? It's my favorite Metal Gear as well, but a lot of people seemed to hate it when it came out.


411194 No.13895828

>>13892337

>implying kojimabros are the problem

Nintendrones and bethesdacucks own /v/.

They just nuked a thread critical of the evil within 2, it already had a dozen apologists saying its feminist memes weren't so bad if you don't go all gamergate over it.


698f8b No.13895850

File: 9b3a81e0e30c2fb⋯.jpg (429.63 KB, 703x573, 703:573, tumblr_nc6thdcthd1t09dnqo1….jpg)

I put in 120 hours into it and enjoyed all of them. Doing missions OSP style is fun as hell in this game.

Story was a bit disappointing with the lack of resolution but I loved what was there.

I think it's just too different from the other games for most people.


411194 No.13895854

>>13892577

>>13895381

Both PW and TPP have the same problem: the mission structure takes you out of the immersion. They should have given you the option of following a strict story mode without managerial bullshit.

>inb4 you could just do only the main missions

But then you wouldn't find equipment on the field, and its research\layout are to be done through that shitload of menus at motherbase.


e231cf No.13895983

Metal Gear was never good and Kojima was always a hack fraud


15fd6c No.13896114

When playing it, I enjoyed the hell out of it, more so than any recent game I can remember. Act 2 began and barely much progression was made. Then I got to the ending and realized that's it. There wasn't even much else to do after that. All in all I was really pissed off, still am, I cringe whenever there is an MGSV thread here. It seems like something that may never go away.


7c351b No.13896161

The core gameplay is really fun. Unfortunately the game is still frustratingly unfinished, even if you ignore the story component. Needed way more mission variety, better designed areas like Camp Omega. This game needs a level editor.


411194 No.13896271

>>13896161

But camp omega is still in the game: ground zeroes is not really a standalone game, it's the first part of TPP.


94f61b No.13896296

>>13896271

> ground zeroes is not really a standalone game, it's the first part of TPP.

Fuck that apologist logic Anon, it was an overpriced demo and the demo is locked out of the base game by normal means.


7c351b No.13896299

>>13896271

That's just one area though. Very little in Phantom Pain feels as well designed.


7c4aad No.13896507

>>13895107

I want to believe. God help me I'd actually pay full price again just to have it finished.


7498a5 No.13897948

>>13895375

Side ops can get repetitive but they're not something you have to do very often, and even if you do, you can vary your approach drastically between each one.


841327 No.13897993

File: 43d2d394fd5d39b⋯.jpg (701.06 KB, 1000x1000, 1:1, WHAT WAS HIS NAME AGAIN.jpg)

>>13892330

peace walker is better.


f076e5 No.13898678

>>13895214

>killing people without being seen.

>killing

For some reason I never kill people. Knockout and fulton is so much tidier. Then again I think I need to get moving faster so maybe I should just get a second pistol with shitloads of shots on its silencer and just cut a bloody swath through the enemy instead of waiting for them to finish scratching their ass and move away from where I'm trying to sneak.

That no kills bonus is nice though.


5aa93d No.13898974

>>13892330

the gameplay is great. i love it.

story, on the other hand, blows.


48c020 No.13899507

>>13898678

I used to do tranq and fulton, but now my base is full, so I don't bother with A or lower.

I like to get in without being seen and fulton armored vehicles/A+ soldiers, then kill the rest without being seen while quiet helps to get that clear bonus.


411194 No.13899525

>>13896296

>ground zeroes is 20 minutes long!!!

>not a real metal guard!!

Anon, everyone makes mistakes when they're young. Years later, admit you got memed like a fool and prove you have become a bigger man.

Ground Zeroes is the first chapter of The Phantom Pain, and is sandbox just like the parent game, with several hours of content to unlock.


58d304 No.13901715

File: 22ae067b142a569⋯.png (2.65 MB, 1920x7356, 160:613, METAL GEAR SOLID V why it ….png)

File: cb5eaef86e5287a⋯.png (147.78 KB, 636x657, 212:219, cb5eaef86e5287a2d151f31b67….png)

>>13892330

>konami fucked up the gameplay with retarded shit to get you to microtransact for MB coins for faster leveling and having to do mobile game-tier shit to deal with all the shit that shows up as a cheap way to "react to your playstyle"

>it combined with GZ equals about 40% of the intended amount of content

>the game outright cheats in side ops with people seeing you through walls and shooting you in the middle of the reflex mode "OH SHIT" animation when they're not supposed to

>the honeybee launcher does no fucking damage to the vehicles it's meant to

>most of BB's dialogue was cut out because Kojima decided to be retarded

>need to play the shitty PSP game Peacewalker to understand the full story

>no camo index so you don't know how well you're blending in, and changing camo costs like 96000 GMP and 90+ seconds of waiting

>injury system is boring and barely used

>injury system and food/sustenance system from MGS3 would have been perfect

>everything in image related

>no codec system

>half the cassettes were blatantly meant to be full cutscenes

>too many peacewalker influences, which is a BAD thing

>fucking konami

>still the best unfinished game ever released

>>13892573

Did you even pay attention to the story?

>>13895381

>looks worse than 3 for no reason

>no cutscenes, instead flash tweened concept art with QUICK TIME EVENTS

>every system is fucking retarded and ruined compared to the rest of the series

>it's still required to know the story and know who the fuck all these characters they reference in V are


027c23 No.13901803

>>13897948

>Side ops can get repetitive but they're not something you have to do very often

Confirmed for not playing the whole game, the final half of the fucking story is locked behind repeating previous missions but harder so you can maybe unlock a unique story related mission. And there is a minimum number of side ops you must complete to unlock the side ops you need to continue the story because you need to meet conditions to unlock specific story missions which by that point is either redoing a story mission or doing moar side ops. And fuck that "you can do it any way you like therefore you're the problem" logic once you've figured out the most optimal way to complete the side ops there is no reason to ever change your plan even when you're bored because it's the exact same thing all the interesting side ops are actually one time only events and they never happen again so they simply take the same side ops you've been doing and simply cycle through them. Then the red vehicles come forth.


23dd57 No.13901853

>>13901715

>it's still required to know the story and know who the fuck all these characters they reference in V are

Flashbacks and audio tapes seem to work well enough for me.


36f675 No.13901923

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

Gameplay is fun at first due to sheer variety of tools and options until you realize just how insanely OP rolling is.

As it turns out, MGS 4 is still somehow more mechanically sound and complex than Phantom Pain.

And no, "mods fix it" is not a defense, fuck off, this isn't fucking Skyrim.


027c23 No.13902219

>>13901923

I liked the sanic one where you can just S Rank OKB Zero with D-Walker and a shield and just straight up drive right through the whole base.


36f675 No.13902311

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13902219

Yeah. The amount of options they give you is great but at no point is there a mission hard enough to make them needed.

Not unless you count sneaking through the same fucking base over and over in FOB crap a mission, but nobody sane does.

The lack of act 3 really

really

really shows.

The only decent missions were, hilariously, the massive ones that essentially required memorization of the massive, empty sandbox and memorization since replaying the game with skill really emphasizes just how poorly the AI meshes with the massive, open environments.

Ground Zeroes on hard was pretty difficult simply because of how tight the area was and the +10m visibility on guards.

Phantom Pain has NOTHING.


fe82e6 No.13902771

I had some fun with it, namely I would stun/sleep/hold up a whole outpost, then I would carry them all into a neat little line, wake them up then immediately hold them up, after I did this I took out my ghettoblaster and just unloaded on them all. It's a nice genocide simulator in that way. Otherwise, it was just a worse version of peace walker in my opinion

>>13892379

>letting a non-white race set foot on Mother Base

I went for an all-white Diamond Dogs and I still got fucked because some mercs knew that stupid ooga booga language, mostly the ones I fultoned out from the African PFs (I guess they're Rhodesians and SA whites)


b75d7d No.13902863

>>13892330

Shit's fun, especially modded. It's too bad the game still has so much online shit weighing it down, though.

If all of the FOB missions could be downloaded and put into a big offline list for selection, and all of the "you must wait 5 real life days to get a few flowers" bullshit, it would be much improved.

Also if the second half of the fucking game existed.


2a362e No.13902929

>>13892364

>Recruit niggers.

>Get AIDS.

>Complains.


9b7785 No.13903011

>>13902771

A ghettoblaster is an oversized portable radio popular with urban youths in the '80s, not a firearm kid.


fe82e6 No.13903023

>>13903011

Those are the 2010s and not the 80s anymore, grandpa, get on with the fucking times. Today a ghettoblaster is an automatic firearm which is well suited for elimination of non-whites (hence ghettoblaster)


164f0e No.13903140

>>13902311

I just remembered how the game spoils what you will encounter at the start of every mission with that "starring" bullshit.


b946c2 No.13907597

>>13893896

plz no

don't do this to me hideo


469580 No.13908414

File: 4dbea78f9950c45⋯.jpeg (63.37 KB, 429x479, 429:479, 45B299BB-51D1-44C0-9134-8….jpeg)

It’s fun as fuck, man. I got some pretty insane amount of content and value for $20. It needed a more fleshed out chapter two, a chapter three, maybe two more maps, and co-op. You can tell that’s where they ran out of time and Konami pushed the game out so they could oust Kojima. I really think if Kojima has another year to work on it, it would probably be my favorite game of the decade.

Still though, what we got was pretty fucking rad. Even now, I still discover little details such as

>Hiding in a cardboard box in the rain breaks the box down

>Shooting power cables while it’s raining electrocutes nearby soldiers

>Soldiers don’t shoot at you if you hold another soldier in an interrogation hold as if you’re taking him hostage

>You can slide down slopes in the box and knock fuckers out

>Phantom Paz in medical room

>Standing in a crowd of active decoys will confuse soldiers and it takes them a while to find the real you

Just small shit like that sets it apart from other stealth/action games.

>


8db8a8 No.13908451

>>13892330

The Phantom Pain is the only Metal Gear game I've played and I thought it was fun

>>13903023

Nah bro, you say ghetto blaster and most people will still think of a boombox, not a gun.


426899 No.13908612

>>13895184

Multi post reaction image shitposters are the imageboard equivalent of a bukkake slut.


164f0e No.13908848

>>13908414

>It needed a more fleshed out chapter two, a chapter three, maybe two more maps

It didn't help that konami forced them to make the game for last gen consoles as well and other things https://imgur.com/r/NeverBeGameOver/NbIbL


5564ee No.13913568

>>13908414

>Shooting power cables while it’s raining electrocutes nearby soldiers

Neat. I found out about that hostage taking one but the tanks and apcs still shoot, deliberately missing.

>phantom paz

I saw the regular her and had ocelot and miller talk about her condition. She's not really dead, is she? Is it all in Snake's head? I mean I would believe it but no spoilers.


59c2a8 No.13913651

I want to have sex with a Haven Trooper.


8385be No.13913674

>>13893250

You and me share the same taste, either go full nude or not at all, nothing pisses me off more then cockteasing.


12a734 No.13913688

File: ac5c95d7385ad14⋯.png (1.18 MB, 1120x1144, 140:143, 1465068208623.png)

>>13913674

BROTHER


238dba No.13915499

>>13908451

>Nah bro, you say ghetto blaster and most people will still think of a boombox, not a gun.

Not where I'm from. Suomi


11aadd No.13915505

>>13893250

>2nd and last pic

Oh my.


164f0e No.13915563

>>13913568

She had a c4 explode in her vagina, she's pretty damn dead.


11aadd No.13915585

>>13915563

she had c4 in her womb and asshole


ee5024 No.13915599

File: 312f7ed7eadfbc5⋯.png (42.95 KB, 289x222, 289:222, Liquid.png)


878aba No.13915603

>>13892342

or you could just not be autistic and realise when people say story they're usually referring to the linear b movie reject dev fan faction that compromises the entirety of the AAA game industry.

For all it's faults mgs at least attempts to tie game mechanics in with the story where possible. (mgs4 cutscenes were a shitshow though)


ace7f2 No.13915614

>>13913568

They were talking about sneks condition.


ac4b7c No.13915917

Isn't it considered a bad game due to being unfinished? Pretty much it was a half-decent game we only got half of?


a2473f No.13915945

File: e7194dba2bb1140⋯.jpg (35.16 KB, 640x480, 4:3, yang sad coffee.jpg)

>game was meant to have a map editor

>at least a quarter or more of the game was cut and instead they gave you the same mission with slight tweaks

>got in the top 12 on steam ranks for FOB invasions before cheat engine and everyone started hacking

It was the first game I could truly say I knew like the back of my hand and then MGO came out and was fucking dogshit.


164f0e No.13915959

>>13915917

I would say act 1 is pretty good, is when you get to act 2 that everything starts to fall apart.


ac4b7c No.13915970

>>13915959

Huh, I why they insist on selling Ground Zeroes and the Phantom Pain seperately, but apparently they've got both games in a $30 bundle with the DLC. I guess Konami at least has pricing down.


977dc0 No.13916020

>>13894207

>AI are all blind as bats

Infinite Heaven can change that, but you’ll have to take a fair amount of time to tweak it to something realistic.

>CQC

CQC? More like QTE.

>regenerating health

Yeah, I hated that.

>unskippable ~30 second helicopter cutscene

Infinite Heaven gets rid of that.

>“boss fights”

Yep.

>have to wait in real time for gadgets to be crafted like a cheap mobile app

I am literally still waiting for things to develop. I am also still literally waiting to be given free MB coins so that I can get a FIFTH FOB so that I can even get enough staff to get a high enough level to even UNLOCK everything, much less develop it. This is so far beyond fucking bullshit that there is no expletive in any language to describe it.

>no interesting weapons

Compared to the previous games, yeah. I never really thought about that, but I absolutely love gimmick weapons in games.

>camo system is far too forgiving

Yep. I played far too conservatively until I realized no one could ever see me.

>both worlds are totally devoid of any interesting level design

Blame the PS3 and Xbox 360, since the distances are only there to give the game time to UNLOAD your previous location and load the new one in. The engine can’t render 25 NPCs at once without crashing. That’s probably also why there aren’t any 3rd party NPCs (nigger civilian natives in Africa and mujahideen in Afghanistan). And it’s guaranteed why there weren’t two more entire maps in the game.

>buddies make every base/encampment an absolute pushover

D-Dog is cheat mode. Never mind that you yourself can magically mark and see people through walls.

>it gets really repetitive really fast

Infinite Heaven + the Side Op Mod gives you some really nice variety in new side-ops, but there’s no excuse for the game being as copied and pasted as it is.

>listen to poorly written exposition that nobody gives a shit about

Isn’t that most of MGS, though?

>worst multiplayer in the series by a huge margin

I’ve basically never played it, and now it’s totally dead, so there’s only ever one match playing at once.

>microtransactions out the ass

FIFTH. FOB. STILL WAITING.


164f0e No.13916042

>>13916020

They added the fulton rocket launcher a while back, and I don't think there is anything more interesting than that.


977dc0 No.13916110

>>13916042

How the hell don’t I know about this… Probably because it’s level 11 and I still can’t see all of those.

>tfw the development menu goes all the way to level 15

>tfw nothing beyond level 11 has even shown up yet

>tfw if I was ever to deploy with those high-level guns, I would go bankrupt instantly even though I use a trainer to cheat both money and resources because they cost so fucking much to use

How the fuck is that supposed to be fun?


841327 No.13916182

>>13908414

It's still a stepdown from peace walker

>could jump on top of enemies from above to stun them

>using shock rod on puddles or metal surfaces zapped everyone in it

>can shoot a canopy of an attack helicopter to make the pilot captain angry and poke his head out

>PTRS-41

>Autistic requirements for codenames tfw ran a single mission and slammed over 300 guys with CQC to unlock "bear"

>Co-op


dc84e1 No.13916218

>>13916110

there's no level 15 stuff yet, the slots were made just in case the game were popular enough for years to keep milking people with updates. I don't think we will ever get level 15 items


c9e0c1 No.13916389

>>13915945

The game was also supposed to have doggos and more cameras.


5564ee No.13916937

>>13915563

But they said they got both of them out and even showed them rummaging around in her bagina for the other one.


164f0e No.13917206

>>13916937

Did you finish the Paz side mission?


2b8cde No.13917225

>>13893896

>Death Stranding is going to be an interactive movie with leftist narrative.

so its going to be a remake of MGS4?


117f8a No.13917277

File: d88057900e37fc3⋯.jpg (51.99 KB, 960x720, 4:3, predator.jpg)

i really unironically liked MGS5, but i also got it on sale for $20 on PC so I never had to deal with the bullshit FOB garbage and just installed easy research/higher rank soldier mods when the grind became unbearable. i like how it's sort of open world if you want to just run around and waste some time, but the missions are mostly focused and show you the rough area where your objective is, but you can approach it in a multitude of ways (if you're looking for a prisoner, for example, you can get D-Dog to sniff them out, or get Quiet to scout the camp, or interrogate guards to get information, or just blow up their communications and pick them off one by one, whatever)

that said the story ends so unsatisfyingly that even on sale i don't feel like i got a full metal gear game. it's fun as hell and when you can cut out konami's FOB jewry it's pretty inoffensive but that story ended the MGS legacy with a loud, trumpety fart instead of the huge bang i was expecting


4ca541 No.13917302

>>13901715

>>13895107

>mentioned a couple of times how excited Kojima was to work on Silent Hills

>PT was so interesting the demo alone changed horror gaming and inspired a dozen copycats and imitators

>now the SH series is deader than dead thanks to Konami and some retarded US developers that ganked the series

it honestly broke my heart when SHs got thrown into the never ever bin. I wanted to believe. I got my hopes up. It doesn't look like Death Stranding is getting cancelled any time soon but we haven't seen any gameplay for it and have no clue what it's going to resemble.

MGSV was really something else and reading the what-could-have-beens posted just make me feel kinda sad because it's one of the best half-finished fuck-ups I ever played.


164f0e No.13917452

>>13917302

>It doesn't look like Death Stranding is getting cancelled any time soon

In best case, a few years time. In worst case, Kojima turns out to be a never ever/broken promises developer.


18eff1 No.13917501

>>13892330

Story and gameplay are awesome and I doubt most people would know it was "unfinished" unless they read about it online.

Best game of the last ten years. Fuck contrarians.


18eff1 No.13917502

>>13917501

*meant to say 5 years but whatever


841327 No.13917523

>>13917501

>I doubt most people would know it was "unfinished" unless they read about it online.

are you clinically braindead?

>oh, i unlocked hand of jehuty, portal fulton like halfway into the game

>hmmm, i need to do the same missions again, but with a few enemies sprinkled in,

BRAVO HDEOUS KOJINGLES

>battle gear is ready here's a cutscene! send it to outer ops i guess? fuck if i know

>Skullface is kill, now we can go fight Cipher or do whatever

NOPE GAEM OBER.

>>>/suicide/


18eff1 No.13917538

>>13917523

Most "finished" AAA games that come out will barely give you 20-40 hours worth of gameplay. I racked up like 240 hours on TPP. At least.


18eff1 No.13917554

>>13893239

>>they took my main bitch away, permanently, after unlocking all her fucking shit - unforgivable

They added a patch that lets you get her back.


977dc0 No.13917560

>>13916937

1. Confirmed for not having finished the Paz side missions.

2. The tapes in GZ explicitly say that they had to remove her organs to fit the bombs inside and that she only had 48 hours to live, maximum. Skull Face said that would be plenty of time to bait Snake.


841327 No.13917573

>>13917538

you sank 240 hours in a shitty game, congrats.

I wasted 120 (^: Marathoned main story in 33 hours, what a disappointment.


18eff1 No.13917580

>>13917573

I'm adding hours up, since I played two versions of the game, as well as a lot of FOB missions.


2f866e No.13917591

>>13917560

>missions

>plural

Yeah I did the introductory one but not anything else. I'm only on mission 16 of the main storyline.


3610ba No.13917625

The Phantom Pain and New Vegas walk into a bar.

"What can I get ya?", asks Spore.


f385cf No.13917894

>>13917625

hey, your joke


4b7458 No.13922674

File: b9140ca29454f92⋯.png (13.33 KB, 579x160, 579:160, retard_.png)

>>13892330

>for all the talk I see about prefering gameplay > story as a general rule, all I read about this game is that it's shit because the story is shit.

Those people are what we call retards.


841327 No.13922717

>>13922674

The story is unfinished which is reflected by how abruptly the gameplay ends.


469580 No.13923212

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13916937

Spoilers

That room, the conversation with Miller and Ocelot, and Paz herself weren’t real. The whole thing is in Snake’s Head. If you listen to the tapes, Paz slowly realizes this herself. The final tape is a real kick in the gut.

It really ties into the Phantom Pain theme of the game. Venom Snake remembers Paz as Big Boss remembered her, but his guilt over her death comes from him not being able to save her as the medic. In the final cutscene, Snake realizes he’s standing in a room that isn’t there, speaking to a Phantom Paz, and tries to catch an imaginary butterfly with a hand that’s no longer there. In her final tape, Paz reminisces of her time on Mother Base and tells you that even if you burn the whole world down, it still won’t bring her back. She tells you there’s more to remember than hatred or rage, and she knows the true emotion locked beneath all of that thirst for vengeance. She wants you to let it out, let it guide you, and live

Vid related is a surprisingly accurate representation of the whole thing


12a734 No.13923352

>hop in a game

>all the shitters playing dokki and zofia

>they get no kills, waste the calls, and die fast

>the vigils are fucking merciless and carry teams

I did not expect this.


164f0e No.13923442

>>13923352

Hey buddy I think you got the wrong thread, the assfaggots thread is two pages down.


12a734 No.13923457

>>13923442

Oh fuck I do.


54c2c5 No.13925349

File: 4661e01b3105b58⋯.gif (1.13 MB, 500x375, 4:3, 3B8guBD.gif)

File: 2a974b23a595508⋯.gif (1.35 MB, 500x212, 125:53, 5lpeYnQ.gif)

>Mission: Eliminate all the hostages

Here we go.




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