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fecd97 No.13887191

Take with a grain of salt but this just happened. You can watch the video for all the info. The tl;dr is that Winged Cloud (the company behind Sakura visual novels) and Sekai project mistreat their workers and do all kind of shady shit.

Summary:

>Winged Cloud refused to address any complaints about their F2P browser games their community manager passed on to them, and when protests of the issues came to a head with a long hyped update being nothing but Lootboxes instead of real content (I shit you not), the CEO (Nick Fahr) placed all blame on the community manager for it and fired him the next day.

>Underpays artists with claims of financial troubles in the company that don't add up in comparison to the profits Winged Cloud was actually drawing in

>One of the artists, Wanaca, is underpaid even worse than the others, if not outright not paid whatsoever - Former employees paint the image that Wanaca is being held in cultlike conditions and not allowed to take outside commissions, with evidence pointing towards here being forced to stay on-board these past several years with blackmail/gaslighting/other social manipulation.

>Forces employees to delete all their old social media and use company-controlled accounts that Nick Fahr has access to, putting their social-life under Winged Cloud's control.

>Scammed musicians by running with sample-work without paying.

>Swapped, obfuscated, and falsified credits for art and programming.

>Cuts off Michaela's original script for Sakura Spirit without telling her, and do a total rewrite with her in the dark about her work going to waste.

>Sekai Project (re)hires her to be the voice-director for Winged Cloud's next visual novel, Guardian Spell - However Sekai wants the TOTAL voiceacting budget AFTER Kickstarter for the FULL game with thousands of lines per character to be a measly $250 - Not per role, but split across all the voiceactors.

>Michaela is able to negotiate with Sekai and Winged Cloud to increase the voice budget to $100 per voiceactor. Still appallingly low, but the voicecast is desperate to have something on their resume.

>After the success of the Kickstarter, Winged Cloud and Sekai Project keep postponing the start of dubbing, refusing to pass on the script to Michaela with excuses about delays including throwing writers under the bus.

>After five months of not receiving the script, the Kickstarter is cancelled - BUT WAIT, THERE'S MORE:

>Sekai Project puts out a press-release regarding the Kickstarter's failure, and blames Michaela and her team as a chief reason for the failure of Guardian Spell, claiming they were asking for an excessive amount of money above what their contract agreed to.

>Niche-gaming news sites run with the story, causing damages to Michaela and the rest of the team's fledgling voiceacting careers

f767a5 No.13887210

>One of the artists, Wanaca, is underpaid even worse than the others, if not outright not paid whatsoever - Former employees paint the image that Wanaca is being held in cultlike conditions and not allowed to take outside commissions, with evidence pointing towards here being forced to stay on-board these past several years with blackmail/gaslighting/other social manipulation.

Terrible if true. She is their best artist, and I doubt their games would be as popular if not for her.


72cd09 No.13887242

File: 5624e410c958c2d⋯.jpg (67 KB, 600x600, 1:1, 562.jpg)

>Supporting or even giving a single fuck about these two trash companies


2baca5 No.13887415

>>13887242

You have to care (assuming you like the games or content) as Sekai Project constantly picks up licenses for visual novels being translated.


72cd09 No.13887450

>>13887415

>Implying

Who gives a fuck about the western market? Just pirate the games when they inevitably come out.


72cd09 No.13887624

>>13887556

That has nothing to do with the VN industry you bumbling retard.


2baca5 No.13887625

>>13887450

I don't think you're familiar with Sekai Project. It's one of those cases where they pick something up and ruin it all so they can have the IP to themselves. Fans can translate better and faster than them. And in many cases they don't bother to get mosaics removed. Hell I bought one of their games just so I could put it up on Nyaa so no one would think about paying them more money.


f767a5 No.13887634

File: b17a702c50c39ad⋯.jpg (75.17 KB, 294x283, 294:283, 1470812560779.jpg)

>>13887556

>Japan is 90% gachashit right now


d366c5 No.13887644

tl;dr/dw


72cd09 No.13887680

>>13887625

No, I'm well familiar with Sekike. There's just no point crying about it. That ship has sailed years and years ago and will never come back. The only thing you can do is pirate, not give a fuck, and learn nipyip.

Thankfully, VNs are niche enough that no amount of Western sales will convince the nips to start writing with Western audiences in mind. At least so far.


2baca5 No.13887752

File: 966b4d21fb8a3bf⋯.jpg (148.44 KB, 757x960, 757:960, 1353986192251.jpg)

>>13887680

>At least so far.

I hope this future never comes true.


f189ee No.13887956

File: ebecce034f4f79c⋯.jpg (15.03 KB, 387x309, 129:103, dead luigi disgust.jpg)

>YouTube embed

>clickbait title and thumbnail

>immediately starts with Patreon plug

>retarded skit right after

>30 second channel intro after that

>creator is a greasy fat fuck with a cartoon avatar

>double spacing when meme arrows already separate lines

Fuck you. I hope Mike Pence tases you as you sleep for being such a rampant faggot.


2cd190 No.13888726

Thanks steamfags for supporting them so much.


db93c9 No.13890242

>>13887956

The video es kinda shit but I had to separate the spacing since it was too much text and became clustered.

The reason I gave out a summary was so you guys don't even have to watch the video


36683c No.13890347

I sat and watched the thing anyway. Happy to see someone trying to dig and doing interviews with the people involved. Kind of fucked that Wanaca's social media accounts went dark after the video guy tried contacting them.


7610b3 No.13890418

>>13887191

>thin cartoon persona in intro

>double chin fatty irl

you should have just linked to the nichegamer article instead of shilling this autism channel


f767a5 No.13890780

>>13890347

>Wanaca's social media accounts went dark

She just tweeted less than 24h ago though.

https://twitter.com/Wanaca91


c5c272 No.13891300

>>13887680

A niche in the west is bigger than the mainstream of japan.


6463a7 No.13893552

>>13887415

>The year our lord 2017

>Not pirating every single thing Sekai Project touches

Fuck is wrong with you, heretic?


917f65 No.13895159

File: 0f6611b516f32dd⋯.png (69.37 KB, 200x240, 5:6, cant.png)

>>13893552

>pirating moon games

dorei to no seikatsu 2.0 is currently being translated by them and the guy who did the current translations got flipped.


917f65 No.13895164

>>13895159

unless you meant

>playing the kiked up version sekai releases

in which case just kill yourself


f56fad No.13902520

>>13887210

Without her they wouldn't have shit. This calls for punishment.


524fb5 No.13902531

File: 5013f8e3debbd9c⋯.jpg (91.13 KB, 664x307, 664:307, president of sekai project.jpg)

Wow, I am shocked and outraged at this surprising turn of events. The Sekai project I knew would never do such sleazy things.


9e75e0 No.13902555

Jesus fuck I hope Sekai Project goes down.

Their translators should be ACTUALLY killed off themselves for purposely mis-translating literatures for politicial reasons.


8d462c No.13902568

>>13902531

Haha entitled


5466c6 No.13902576

>>13902555

What VN did the leftist fuck up this time?


9e75e0 No.13902587

>>13902576

Sekai has been censoring thing and mistranslating their games since the dawn of their existence.


ef63e9 No.13902594

>>13887191

Aren't those the fuckers that dug their claws into Teaching Feeling?


8d462c No.13902598

>>13902594

Who cares?


68c59d No.13902612

File: 2d6dd69a064bd66⋯.jpg (32.98 KB, 268x268, 1:1, smug rape master.jpg)

>this whole fucking thread

>millennials LARPing as weeb and thinks playing VN is some kind of cool thing

>playing VN after Konami went jews and Elf fallen

>not playing Dokidoki memorial, Shusaku, Dokyusei again

Playing VN in 2017 is nothing different from playing western AAA titles in 2017.


576b34 No.13902616

>>13902594

You have to be kidding me. Please be wrong


8b6010 No.13902618

>>13887415

>You have to care

No we don't.


524fb5 No.13902630

>>13902612

>Elf fallen

Restricting yourself only to things made before 1996 is a bit extreme, don't you think?


9e75e0 No.13902635

>>13902612

Don't let your nostalgia drag down all of us, m8.


68c59d No.13902647

File: 6a52a57afd43ca9⋯.webm (401.88 KB, 856x480, 107:60, how do you do fellow kids.webm)

>>13902630

>1996

>bit extreme

Not extreme enough, I need full rom set for PC Engine right nao.

>>13902635

>nostalgia

>drag down all of us

>not the modern day degenerated industry who trying to imitate the old glory

KIDS NOWADAYS RUN THEIR MOUTHS LIKE HOT SHIT


9e75e0 No.13902658

>>13902647

I mean, was Dokidoki memorial even good?


5466c6 No.13902674

>>13902587

Did they shit up Grisaia? Because that's about the only VN they have I give a shit about.


9e75e0 No.13902685

>>13902674

They just copied the fan translation, m8.


917f65 No.13902779

>>13902616

he's not kidding. the /hgg/ thread has been on edge ever since it was announced


faca1d No.13902821

File: 35e81badf2bd7ef⋯.png (1.03 MB, 640x937, 640:937, 0ce81badf2bd7ef29406351486….png)

>>13887191

>a kickstarter success

that's the first thing that should've been mentioned and where this thread should've ended


5466c6 No.13902833

>>13902779

>the /hgg/ thread has been on edge

So, even reddit is upset?


917f65 No.13902870

File: 9a2bc74f3811222⋯.png (154.47 KB, 540x720, 3:4, 1476065189897.png)

>>13902833

>redditors play loli h games

maybe i've misjudged them.


5466c6 No.13902895

>>13902870

>the Free Cities /hgg/ thread directly links to reddit and vice versa

>the fullchan version of Free Cities with lolis and catgirls got fucked over because the autist working on it didn't heed /pol/'s warning about tolerating leftists on the team

>people get upset when you say nigger

>despite modding a game so you can amputate, lobotomize, and have slaves fight to the death

It's a shithole of a board.


e9cbf9 No.13902914

File: be9820e857a710c⋯.webm (1.7 MB, 640x360, 16:9, Apost.webm)

>>13887956

>being so mad about the form that you ignore the content

fuck off you cuckhold


faca1d No.13902946

>>13902914

>>>/reddit/ and stay there


9a46e1 No.13902973

>>13902895

To my knowledge the main issues with the nekomod was that people were afraid it would degenerate into furshit, and it heavily derailed the free cities general. Was there something else that happened to the team?


917f65 No.13902976

>>13902895

>a game that calls traps and eunuchs she

It was always going to be a den of faggotry. FC threads were a mistake


5466c6 No.13902979

>>13902973

Not nekomod, Libre Cities.

>>13902976

It's developed by a bong or an Austrian, I forget which, so yeah, there was no hope.


139e1d No.13902987

File: f7574b19959a64f⋯.webm (15.27 MB, 480x270, 16:9, Winged Cloud.webm)

I'm only here because that embed is disgusting.

https://hooktube.com/watch?v=xlh8e201lI0


d536d5 No.13903109

>>13887191

>industry still being shitbags

>don't focus on Ubisoft, Electronic arts, Activision, or any western developer doing this goy, your favorite weeb game is doing it

Yeah don't care.


917f65 No.13903450

File: bcea355060cd35e⋯.png (706.42 KB, 840x440, 21:11, ywn.png)

>>13903109

>don't focus on things you like that can still be saved

>instead worry companies that have never given a fuck and don't make any products of note


6463a7 No.13905205

>>13887191

>25 minute mark

>he starts e-begging like the fat white knight he is

This will end in his arrest for sexual assault.




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