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File: aabde7cf70cb5f3⋯.jpg (31.79 KB, 460x215, 92:43, header.jpg)

cdccd3 No.13852441

What is the best pre-warhammer Total War?

never played them before

4142f9 No.13852468

>>13852454

voting for this too based poop


cd7657 No.13852496

>>13852441

Rome: Total War's combat feels the best. Cavalry charges have some weight behind them and are satisfying to perform.

If you want gunpowder, take Shogun 2. It has both good melee/ranged balance compared to Napoopan.

If you want grand strategy and diplomacy that actually works, go with Rome 2 or Attila.


464ea9 No.13852497

Medieval 2 and Rome 1. Rest are trash.


03f692 No.13852515

Total War:Poop is the best game in the series


23eba7 No.13852571

I wish CA didn't suck so much.

Try Shogun or Med 2.


bfec55 No.13852657

Shogun 2.

Ignore the Rome nostalgiafags.


18c027 No.13852695

Rome has the better time period, but Medieval II is the better game.


3dc990 No.13852717

File: 6ceb952da812f63⋯.png (47.86 KB, 401x345, 401:345, this is ridiculous.png)

>>13852695

>better time period


18c027 No.13852735

>>13852717

There's just too little difference between the factions in Medieval II to keep my interest is all fam.


3dc990 No.13852755

File: 11a21b5262da96a⋯.jpg (101.34 KB, 960x720, 4:3, 1460784387703.jpg)

>>13852735

Ah, this is acceptable


000000 No.13852794

>>13852441

Medieval 2. I bought it from a furniture store.


5af2be No.13852795

Med 2 has the best gameplay of them all, but >>13852735 is right. The different cultures mostly boil down to religion and infantry/cavalry/archer bias, also the Senate is much more interesting than the Papacy.

Rome 1 lacks some of the features of Med 2, but that doesn't keep it from being as enjoyable.

Med 1 is also worth a campaign or two. There's a lot of features in it that were missing in Med 2 like governorships, assassinating your own units, and requiring you to have ships stationed in seas in a chain in order to trade by sea.


4a4aaa No.13852874

>>13852441

Medieval 1's chessboard map has been the only one where the AI can actually function in a manner to challenge you. That all of your units have leaders that can command the army and grow is also lacking in later entries. Doesn't play nice with Nvidia cards it's so old.

Rome 1 has the best feeling combat.

Medieval 2 has the best mods.


18c027 No.13852928

If Rome had the same recruitment system as Medieval II, there'd be no reason to play Medieval II imo. Try playing as Germania and The Holy Roman Empire and you'll see what I mean. Sure it's two different time periods, but it's the same starting position. The only difference is in Medieval II you can build armies quick enough to deal with multiple fronts. In Rome good luck dealing with Gaul and Briton when Dacia and Scythia are coming from the east and Rome from the south.


6f554a No.13852934

>>13852441

Shogun 2 and Napoleon, but that's just a personal opinion.


0d5ecf No.13854207

Rome 1, Med 2, Napoleon, Shogun 2, Attila.

Ignore the shitposters.


cdccd3 No.13855349

>>13852874

what are some good mods based on the other games?


2976e7 No.13855535

>>13852717

Classical age really is cooler than the medieval age.


5dc774 No.13855547

File: 41d90d328f0c942⋯.png (224.28 KB, 800x482, 400:241, 67998.png)

>>13852496

>>13854207

>Attila

How about dipshits? Those A-OKay?


fdb6ad No.13855659

YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.

>>13855349

Stainless Steel and the third age mods come to mind for M2 mods.


3dc990 No.13855664

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>>13855535

They are both cool but I disagree and think Medieval is the coolest.

How can plate armor not be cool?


0d6937 No.13855808

File: 62251461ed0d4bf⋯.jpg (290.65 KB, 600x800, 3:4, lorica-segmentata-front-vi….jpg)

File: 82cac26d6327ac9⋯.jpg (19.6 KB, 333x335, 333:335, crest.jpg)

>>13855664

Lorica segmentata and horsehair crests are also cool as fuck.


697242 No.13855827

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File: 267f9146904c5ba⋯.jpg (30.97 KB, 430x320, 43:32, 1434318457480.jpg)

>>13852794

>that id

Holy shit. What are the odds?


0d6937 No.13855845

File: 13d31bbe2b7163f⋯.jpg (103.44 KB, 500x147, 500:147, 1456171524492.jpg)

>>13855827

>Baiting this hard without a sage

That's just uncouth, man. Come on. It's like dropping the serving tongs on the floor at a buffet table and picking them up and using them again.


3dc990 No.13855969

File: 2b54c17b4e8a63c⋯.jpg (137.56 KB, 534x697, 534:697, 6b9c43f40456ef6fbe5b3c2502….jpg)

>>13855808

I can't argue that, but muh gothic plate


e524f4 No.13856002

Which era should another Total War portray? Assuming that they won't fuck it up a la Rome 2 that is.


000000 No.13856009

>>13855827

>He doesn't know about torposting

Come on Brian, I thought you'd notice torposter ids are all 0s. I mean you've done it yourself.


75e0bd No.13856048

>>13855827

The odds are one to one, shitposter


8992b9 No.13856473

>Play Third Age Divide and Conquer as the kindom of Dale

>Conquer the Rhun but cant destroy their faction because they have a general wandering arround the map (medeival TW 2 is such a great game)

>time passes, mordor Conquers Gondor, Dol Amroth and tries to attack me from the East

>Even if they game at this point becomes a repetitive fight aganists doomstacks as always happens in Total War, now those stacks have trolls and Elephant like beasts called giant beasts that are stronger than oliphants

>these beasts are weak to pikemen but still can kill an entire regiment unharmed, also trolls have no particular weakness other than being just vunerable to arrows but still not effective

Why the devs made trolls not weak to spears and pikes? also i got tired of figthing over an over doomstacks on medieval 2, is Warhammer 2 TW better? i havent votered to try it because it kinda feels like a mobile game whit the interface but at least units are not fucking clumsy as they are on medieval 2, still it looks that fortifications are as useless as they were in medieval 2.


682da7 No.13856694

>>13855664

>>13855969

kinda have to agree with other anon,

full plate is for faggot nobles who scared of val-halla

padded or scaley are the coolest, I guess samurai armor


682da7 No.13856761

>>13852441

>pre-warhammer

why, did you come from that or are you just not interested?

I've just started playing the first warhammer this week, after solely playing historical for a while,

and Attila to Wawa put together is quite an interesting comparison, there were indeed some things that I liked

but overall it feels like Wawa flavors above all else FUN, everything is sort of pretty and all units cool in some way,lot more lore flavor (of the warhammer kind of course),

and one cool thing is that they really don't the universe all that serious, everything can be exaggerated and comical in a sense,

meanwhile the last historical title, is quite the opposite, everything is grim, and every decision can actually matter,

you probably won't be able to build everything you want in a province, you need to balance it carefully, manage your economy and order, and even juggle enemies and allies

so while Wawa and its damage sponge creatures and heroes is clearly unbalanced, it can be FUN, while Titila is more of the no fun allowed kind of game

blogpost ends

anyway, I still haven't played Rome2 and Empire, any reason to play those if you already played everything else?


cdccd3 No.13856786

>>13856761

I dont think my PC can deal with the warhammers


682da7 No.13857175

>>13856786

its surprisingly lighter than Attila, well I don't know if lighter really, but its certainly faster


3dc990 No.13857209

File: 1da42d9af62052e⋯.png (1.1 MB, 1024x724, 256:181, 8609288a7fa300c2c1ca0cf1af….png)

>>13857175

I want to get it but I cannot for the life of me wrap my head around high fantasy anything

I'd just cringe the whole time, /his/ has ruined me


e26927 No.13857235

>>13852496

>Cavalry charges have some weight behind them and are satisfying to perform.

Except its janky as fuck and if your cav has a small rock in the way then the whole charge gets fucked up. Bugged pos.


661cda No.13857295

>>13852441

Shogun (the original)

It plays more like a Risk-style board game and doesn't look ugly as balls, which is something the rest of the games really struggle with


8992b9 No.13857408

>>13857235

Total war clumsy as always


2c5a58 No.13858075

If they'd went as far back as like 4000BC, then what countries there would be?

Sumerians, Hittites, Egyptians are a no brainer but what else?


682da7 No.13858112

>>13857209

>wrap my head around high fantasy

ikr? and great pic btw

have you played attila at least?

hint: one of the most satisfying strategies is positioning your javelin on enemy flanks right after they engage and giving the order to fire

they literally obliterate anyone like that, with minimal friendly fire, and its actually worth holding their ammo since they fire so fast


682da7 No.13858128

File: 364ec780cb2f71c⋯.jpg (178.71 KB, 1280x720, 16:9, maxresdefault.jpg)

>>13858075

TW games are more focused on time periods, and usually very weak campaign that only exists to give purpose to the fights

they only really started giving more complex campaign since rome 2

on another topic, Oriental Empires is a game to note

its a kind of mix TW+Civ, with classic 4x elements and more open world, but more detailed armies and battles

its pretty interesting but it deserves more attention, specially figuring out its nuances are hard


b2ab96 No.13858499

File: daffc91cfc918d5⋯.png (230.77 KB, 399x487, 399:487, 676786876.png)

>>13852441

I get the appeal of Medieval 2 but Rome 1 is better.

The main map and battles compliment eachother perfectly in Rome. I personally just like Rome's fast paced combat but that's not what makes it better overall for me.




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