506882 No.13844781
>Favorite weapon
>Favorite boss fight
>Favorite map
cd76dd No.13844789
Fucking japs ripping off good western games again, lame asian DS ripoff
506882 No.13844792
>>13844789
This bait has already been done, as an earlier OP no less.
40a317 No.13844839
Just uninstalled this shit after losing like 30k of those points you get after killing an enemy. How was I supposed to know you lose all of those when you die twice before getting that animal thing back? Why isn't the game telling you such an important thing? And don't give me "git gud" or "haha, you want handholding". The game is infested with tutorials for every shit, but not the most important thing.
And that it's a Souls clone doesn't matter. You can't just lazily stand on the shoulders of the ones that came before (or the ones you steal from) and even be so shameless and hope everyone is aware anyway.
Of course that the combat is fucking shit and there isn't even a parry mechanic (probably because I'm only five hours in, but whatever came next wouldn't make up for five boring hours), that you always fight the same enemy and that the Souls gameplay in general is just boring and repetitive as fuck doesn't really help.
a69204 No.13844841
>no explanation of what the stat icons mean
what were they thinking?
520ac5 No.13844845
>>13844839
30k quickly becomes nothing as you progress through the game. Besides, the gear is much more important than the character levels.
a69204 No.13844854
>>13844845
>replying to pasta
40a317 No.13844859
>>13844845
I kept telling myself that to cope, but I believe it was even a bit more and it's still a lot in the beginning and just literally the only reward you have in this kind of shit games where you repetitively dodge and slash your way through boring levels. Let's not kid ourselves.
e68f48 No.13844865
>>13844839
>five hours in
>there isn't even a parry mechanic
I didn't realize that video game journalists posted on this board.
7b860a No.13844872
>>13844865
>probably because I'm only five hours in
He knows there is so he even added this bit so he could save face.
40a317 No.13844874
"Haha, let us spit on your life time you spent on grinding this and the cumulative gratification you hoped for" is retarded game design in general. Why isn't it enough that we get killed and sometimes have to do half the level again? Why do this on top of it?
Why does Team Ninja even do this boring, shitty circle-strafing gameplay when they are used to making fucking Ninja Gaiden?
d47db4 No.13844880
>Have to fight Nobunaga and the ice bitch at the same time
Jesus
c67b17 No.13844886
>Favorite weapon
It's still the odachi but I have been practicing my parries with the sword and that's fun too
>Favorite boss fight
theme wise? Ice lady, I dont really remember many other fights, I liked the one against Pepe even if the hitbox of his spear it's utter bulshit special mention to the we waz kangs fight lol
>Favorite map
… there are different maps on this game?
>>13844841
yeah that's something that got me scratching my head too
fda15a No.13844902
>>13844841
>NIGGA DEY ALL ICONS
07d41b No.13844919
>>13844875
I'm not having any issues.
07d41b No.13844930
>>13844921
Herro, the port has some obvious issues sure, but those are easy to avoid for the average user
>no mouse
Would play it with a controller either way
>no ultrawide
I don't have an ulta wide monitor
>60 fps
I don't have a 120/144hz monitor
Other than that it's running great and you're trying too hard to sound smart by simply shitting on anything without knowledge.
25c70f No.13844931
872f36 No.13844954
>>13844839
>>13844859
>>13844874
git gud
>>13844944
>widely and heavily reported crashing.
First I've heard of it tbh. The fact I have to close steam in order to relaunch the game because it never closes properly is kind of a pain in the ass but I haven't heard anyone complain about crashing.
6dc3d2 No.13844988
>>13844965
>>13844979
PC has a much lower price entry ceiling, since you can pirate games for free you get a bunch of 3rd-world shitskins and underage faggots on the platform where they wouldn't be able to afford a console and/or games.
7b2d22 No.13844997
It's the Manny Pardo of soulsclones
652d2b No.13845038
>>13844979
>implying those aren't valid complaints about Dark Souls 2
f68408 No.13845044
>>13844979
>>13844965
PC gamers seem to be competent in almost every genre except the RPG genre, I have a friend who plays Dark Souls 2 who is pretty damn good at Shooters but was absolute trash when this game first came out, it took him a actual day to get through the Gutter, no fucking joke.
>>13845038
The only complaint I can think of being valid in that picture is the snek boss, it's kind of a gamble on whether or not you figure out you need to burn the fucking windmill to get rid of the poison.
e9230a No.13845046
>>13844839
>being this casual
872f36 No.13845100
>>13845044
I've only ever seen PC-only gamers show competence at FPS and RTS. Everything else is a crapshoot.
a69204 No.13845116
>>13844886
>>13844902
Has no one bothered to make any article/faq about what the icons do?
The game has been out for half a year now.
e69a2b No.13845119
>>13844781
>axe
>vampire actually required me to wake up out of auto-pilot to beat her, so her i guess. god damn was she fucking ugly though.
>tower of london
db1914 No.13845134
>>13844965
>>13844979
Better not shame them too much or the herd will return to consoles.
cd76dd No.13845149
e8fafa No.13845153
>>13845116
If an someone wanted to make a graph I'm sure a lot of anons here could help make it. I don't know all of them but I know a decent amount of the status effects from playing.
289e34 No.13845194
>>13844880
We have such sights to show you.
506882 No.13845196
>Finally get the best of triple kelley in way of the strong
>The game fucking crashes at hundred eyes
506882 No.13845206
>>13844965
>things that totally happened
PS4 bros and PC users have been getting along fantastically in these threads and it saddens me so many fell for this outright lie.
af8ee4 No.13845224
289e34 No.13845228
>>13845119
>god damn was she fucking ugly though.
R-rude!
e8fafa No.13845230
>>13845196
I keep on seeing people mention this, does it occur after the cutscene or once you enter the boss room? Has KT mentioned if they are trying to work on a patch? It sounds like the crash makes hundred eyes into the final boss he was supposed to be, because he is pretty much the easiest part of the mission normally.
506882 No.13845242
>>13845230
I went at it four times, it crashes before and after entering the boss room, but always very quickly, like I don't have the time to get a hit in.
289e34 No.13845245
>>13845196
IMPORTANT REMINDER
You can go back and save after the 3 Kelleys before you move on to Hundred Eyes.
af8ee4 No.13845249
>>13845242
Do you have shadows set to high?
a69204 No.13845250
>>13845242
Is this the steam copy or a pirated one?
e69a2b No.13845263
>>13845228
The girl who gives you the lightning sword is much more qt, as is the rude bunnygirl who just shows up and calls you a drunk and then peaces out.
506882 No.13845272
>>13845250
Steam copy.
>>13845245
Yeah, first order of business after beating three kelleys for a second time was to travel talisman. But the crash is consistent.
a69204 No.13845277
>>13845272
In the last few threads someone reported that the game stopped crashing for them when they used the pirated version.
You could try that.
af8ee4 No.13845284
>>13845277
>>13845272
That might be the Steam overlay
Disable it
cd76dd No.13845287
>>13845224
>This opinions I don't like are cuckchan
a69204 No.13845291
>>13845287
The screenshot is literally from cuckchan you mong
506882 No.13845295
>>13845277
The thing is, I never had any problem with this boss on way of the samurai. It just suddenly decided to fuck my shit up on WotStrong. Graphics settings don't matter shit, too. So you're saying I have to wait to pirate it and transfer saves? This is bullshit.
289e34 No.13845296
>>13845263
Blacksmith is best human girl with Lady Ginchiyo a very close second.
b1a54a No.13845297
a69204 No.13845305
>>13845295
>So you're saying I have to wait to pirate it and transfer saves
You could make a report on the steam forums and wait for a fix if its not already reported.
KT usually responds and patches their games accordingly but that will take time.
e69a2b No.13845317
>>13845296
>the disfigured one-eyed blacksmith
But her head is half skull, anon. Are you a skeleton in disguise?
6a2533 No.13845333
>Favorite weapon
Odachi, currently running a 1357 atk one, wish they had better skills though
>Favorite boss fight
Spider slut
>Favorite map
Bathhouse
On a side note I really wish the game would stop crashing. I want to play more but I'm getting burned out on having to replay the level 4+ times because it crashes so often.
a69204 No.13845334
>>13845333
>wish they had better skills though
No need for skills if the default moveset is that great
e8fafa No.13845335
>>13845305
I'm wondering what would cause all these crashes on the steam version that doesn't happen on the PS4 or a pirated version.
289e34 No.13845336
>>13845317
>But her head is half skull
She just got a metal spark in her eye when she was younger. Who knows she might even have an amrita eye like Date does.
a69204 No.13845340
>>13845335
probably a combination of the online stuff and the DRM.
568ad5 No.13845344
Just a reminder: To import your save from a pirate copy simply use a hex editor to replace the first 3 lines of code in the save with those same lines from a valid copy.
Also, if you are experiencing excessive crashes (such as on the mission "the queen's eyes", which is known for crashing frequently near the boss for some players), playing that mission in a pirate version of the game might get around the crashes.
7b2d22 No.13845346
>>13845224
not an argument
289e34 No.13845351
>>13845333
There's one Odachi that comes with a 'heal when amrita is absorbed' stat. That one is great.
b61ac4 No.13845362
>>13845291
Yeah. It's true. It's from cuckchan, posted April of 2014.
Fucking tard.
568ad5 No.13845364
>>13845277
>>13845272
>>13845284
>>13845295
Just noticed this coversation. Yeah this is what I'm talking about here >>13845344
For me the game ran flawlessly up until that fight on Way of the Demon. I managed to get through WotD by rushing the boss without ever resting or dying on the level (advice from some random reddit post I think). On WotW however even that didn't work and the fight still crashed, which is where I came up with the idea of importing my save back into the pirate copy that I started with. I should mention that I've been experiencing somewhat regular crashes (about once every 1-2 hours) ever since I finished WotD, but never before. The pirate copy got me through both WotW and WotN with no trouble.
If you do decide to try this method, here's a picture of the lines you have to copy FROM the "valid" save (for whichever version you want to play in) TO the save that you want to import.
568ad5 No.13845376
>>13845230
The crash can occur on the stairs to the boss (before the cutscene), almost immediately when the fight starts, or even 30 seconds into the fight.
a69204 No.13845386
>>13845364
can you transfer your saves from the pirated copy to a real one?
8e9e97 No.13845388
>>13844781
>Favorite Weapon
The Gas Oven
>Favorite boss fight
The fucking price tag.
>Favorite map
NSDAP HQ.
568ad5 No.13845393
>>13845386
Works both ways, just copy the first 3 lines from the save that works into the save that doesn't.
568ad5 No.13845402
>>13845364
The fact that I only started getting regular crashes after I forced my way past Hundred Eyes leads me to believe that the game has somehow accumulated "junk" data from my original attempts.
It might not even be a pirate/steam issue. The reason importing the save works might simply be because the pirate copy is a "fresh" copy that hasn't yet had the chance to accumulate the same crap. I already tried reinstalling the game and disabling steam overlay, neither of which did anything at all to help my issue. If there is some kind of accumulation it's somewhere outside of the game folder and yet it's somewhere that isn't shared by a separate (coexisting) install of the game. Maybe in some kind of cache file?
a69204 No.13845404
>>13845402
>Maybe in some kind of cache file
That would be shared between the two copies
You could test it yourself if you want to.
289e34 No.13845411
>>13845402
I was going to say from the descriptions it sounded like maybe it was a memory leak or garbage collection issue.
Does it only happen if you fall to Kelleys or Hundred Eyes a few times? Does completely exiting and re doing the stage help?
568ad5 No.13845435
>>13845411
Exiting and redoing the stage was the only way that I was able to pass it in WotD. Clearing the stage without dying and without using any shrines seems to make it less likely to crash, though when I did that on WotW it did still crash. If the game crashes on Hundred Eyes and you return to the shrine to try again it will pretty much always crash from that point forward. If you die to hundred eyes (no crash) it seems very likely to crash the second attempt.
Backing up the save file before attempting Hundred Eyes does nothing. Even if it works the first time and you die instead of crashing, then you restore the pre-attempt save and try again, the game will always crash.
a69204 No.13845436
>>13845402
Also you'll be better off reporting your findings in a Steam forum thread if you bought the game. Might even help KT fix the port.
fda15a No.13845445
>>13845116
Call Golden Palace, they might know.
568ad5 No.13845467
>>13845436
It's much more likely to get my steam account banned for mentioning piracy, and KT is unlikely to do anything at all regardless, but I have actually mentioned it in a couple of places.
506882 No.13845483
So, going full screen bypassed the hundred eyes crash for me.I unlocked way of the demon even though I didn't complete every mission on WotStrong, can I strill forge items beyond 150 ?
568ad5 No.13845505
>>13845483
I tried fullscreen myself, it didn't work. Most likely you just got lucky, did you start the stage over?
As for unlocking, forging level is based off the highest level mission you have completed. If you want to forge past 150 you should beat a mission in WotD. I like to start with The Red Oni of the Ii (1v1 fight against the spear guy in red demon armor). He's pretty easy to knockdown with Kusarigama Serpant Strike>Foot Sweep, so I could kill him with pretty much any gear level, and he's in the 3rd region, meaning he's one of the highest level missions available at the start of the difficulty.
About clearing difficulties: You only need to complete 17 missions + The Queen's Eyes to move on. You'll see the progress bar on the region select menu filling up each time you do a mission, each segment on the bar represents the next region unlock. Completing the ENTIRE progress bar will unlock all regions for the NEXT difficulty, so you would only need to complete Queen's Eyes and not any other missions if you did that.
af8ee4 No.13845539
289e34 No.13845571
>>13845505
Do dojo missions count toward progress, I can't remember?
a69204 No.13845596
>>13845571
They are region independent so probably not
81c25c No.13845618
>>13845571
Never tried, except for the 2 tutorial missions the unlock requirements for dojo missions are difficult
721b3a No.13845624
Are spears and axes fun? I've been doing great with odachis, but the moveset seems kinda simple.
a69204 No.13845631
>>13845624
Why don't you give them a try and find out?
>but the moveset seems kinda simple
oh boy you don't even know
e69a2b No.13845655
If I complete a mission but missed one of those funny green gnomes, can I just hop back in and find him and then use the branch fragment to exit? Or do I have to re-complete the entire mission?
Also:
>accidentally get Mission Complete
>can still run around and find treasure
>can no longer summon and fight revenants
But whyyyyyyy?
>>13845624
I fucking love axes, and spears were my crutch when I was having trouble with draculette. For axes, treat them somewhat like GS in monhun if you've played that - time your heavy swings for where the enemy WILL be, not where it is.
If you don't already, unlock the passives that let you ki-pulse by dodging. It will save your fucking life.
a69204 No.13845665
>>13845655
>can I just hop back in and find him and then use the branch fragment to exit
yeah
289e34 No.13845714
>>13845624
I like axes because they have a mystic art that lets you do extra damage when you are standing in dark energy and because they have self buffs.
I like spears because they have that helicopter slam when you are in LW mode.
932a6e No.13845884
>>13845714
>mystic art
Speaking of, does anyone know which of the mystic arts apply to other weapons? I've heard that the 2kat MAs are 2kat only. Is this the same for others that don't specify it in the description?
289e34 No.13845910
>>13845884
I think all mystic arts only apply to their own weapon. This isn't true of other passives unless it specifically states so.
I've heard conflicting things about the Iai buffs.
cd76dd No.13845914
>>13845539
Not an argument.
289e34 No.13845951
>>13845884
Also the self buff skills apply across all weapons so you can keep an axe or a kama as you secondary weapon purely for access to a buff for you main weapon.
7a55a6 No.13846128
>>13845194
Are there more bosses in co-op or is that from the higher difficulties?
efe822 No.13846147
>>13846128
co-op summons an additional boss for that stage
7a55a6 No.13846165
>>13846147
I guess I know what I'm doing tomorrow.
393f0a No.13846170
>Last weed my posts are deleted for insulting Brutal Doom
>Posts are deleted again for insulting PCfags
Sage for off-topic, but I think someone's upset.
af8ee4 No.13846182
>>13846170
Reported for ban evading and console war shittery
;)
289e34 No.13846276
>>13846165
What I really love about Nioh is how all of the outrageous looking armor is actually more or less historically accurate.
e69a2b No.13846304
>>13846276
The japs have always been fucking weird.
c40bff No.13846344
>>13846304
To be fair, there were also European helmets with weird as fuck shit, like the one with the mermaid crest on top, or the one that looked like a maiden in a ballroom gown, or the one with the fake spectacles and the exaggerated grimace. And the one in this picture I don't even know how to describe.
289e34 No.13846362
>>13846304
And that's really not even the strangest shit they've done. I'm almost certain there's a penis helmet out there somewhere.
>>13846344
And don't forget the Hussars.
fa53d6 No.13846369
>>13846344
>the one with the fake spectacles and the exaggerated grimace
Riding helm of Henry VIII best helmt
fa53d6 No.13846393
>>13846389
No fucking way.
fa53d6 No.13846445
>>13846408
>>13846403
What other western stuff is in the game? God damn, that's fucking sweet.
2d7825 No.13846453
I liked this game for the most part but the story was kind of lame and the whole mission aspect made the game feel separated. Also the fact that you get so many items and can make the best materials early with the soul forging means that unless you limit yourself you're gonna be op really quickly. It's nice to see a better version of Ninja Gaiden though albeit with easier bosses, after how many years. The only problem is the PC version is a fucking shitty Xbox port and I had to use a controller.
af8ee4 No.13846475
>>13846408
>>13846389
Someone post that fucking webm similar to this
I keep losing that fucking thing
af8ee4 No.13846525
>>13846495
Thank you absed anon
568ad5 No.13846718
>>13846128
>>13846147
Worth noting, in the Abyss every stage gets an extra boss per coop partner. You can have 2 visitors at a time there, so that's 3 bosses per level. That also means 3x the drops for everyone, which is especially nice if you are trying to farm droplets of corruption to try and defile your gear.
e69a2b No.13846720
Are there any more England boards in the game other than the tutorial in Tower of London? I want to farm that full plate helm from the tower guards.
932a6e No.13846742
>>13846720
You go back at the end of the base game.
e69a2b No.13846747
>>13846742
Alright, works for me. I have a feeling I'll be doing a few runs through this game unless it just suddenly gets stale somewhere in the middle like Toukiden 2 did.
289e34 No.13846762
>>13846720
You can actually get smithing texts for both of the European armor sets by completing the first 6 regions in WotW and the weapon texts from the abyss from Hanzo.
932a6e No.13846790
>>13846747
It goes up to NG+4, with higher level cap and gear locked behind each NG. So I wouldn't be surprised if you did.
>>13846762
I haven't gotten them. Do you need to complete all missions?
289e34 No.13846812
>>13846790
>Do you need to complete all missions?
Yes. Just unlocking the next difficulty won't give it to you. In fact there's a reward for completing all of the first 6 missions for every difficulty level. I think the dojo missions are required too but I'm not certain.
932a6e No.13846821
>>13846812
Pretty sure you can only do dojo missions in Samurai.
e8fafa No.13846825
>>13846821
You can do the dojo missions on any difficulty, you just need to finish all the missions in a region for it to unlock.
ed5597 No.13847047
>>13844979
>just beat nobunaga and kelly
>there's still more
Is this DLC or is the game really this long? I'm at 55 hours already. Not complaining though.
>>13844965
>>13844979
(you)
568ad5 No.13847149
>>13847047
You only just started the DLC. The DLC is actually kind of short. It's 3 regions and each one is a bit smaller than average except maybe the last. However, it's also hard as fuck.
506882 No.13847255
>>13845505
Sorry for not answering earlier, went to sleep. No, I did not restart the mission. I put graphics on very low (didn't work) then tried fullscreen (it did). I had saved at a shrine.
568ad5 No.13847280
>>13847255
I still think you just got lucky. I tried swapping to fullscreen and it did nothing for me
506882 No.13847300
>>13847280
Well, I did get lucky in that it worked, but it wasn't an unrelated lucky accident because I actually kind of sucked at the fight. After it stopped crashing, I had to make four attempts and it didn't crash in any of these. I guess this crash has no consistent fix across machines. It's worth noting I have steam overlay disabled since it fixed an occasional crash on kill. I hope you can find the right cocktail of parameters to fix the crash on your rig.
ed5597 No.13847438
>>13847391
>set bonus reqs down
>unlimited onmyo
JESUS
568ad5 No.13847461
>>13847391
>>13847438
Yasakani Magatama is pretty much essential to any build, but it's not that rare and the set reqs down is guaranteed
This thing on the other hand, I don't even know what to say about this.
506882 No.13847463
>>13845505
>>I like to start with The Red Oni of the Ii
>Follow your advice
>Get his armor smithing text for my troubles
Nice.
6f7bbc No.13847471
>>13846408
>>13846389
That's out-fucking-standing.
0c2d2a No.13847508
>meet giant toad
>cast sloth talisman
>he jumps into the air to start an attack
>immediately start rapid-firing storm shuriken into him
>he dies before he hits the ground
I've completely and irreversibly broken this game, haven't I?
289e34 No.13847513
>>13847391
Your first one is always a wonderful occasion. It completely changes how you make builds.
>>13847461
I've been wondering, does the "set bonus requirement down by one" on other accessories stack with the one on the Yasakani? I'm guessing they don't because 2 Yasakani can't stack but still I'd like to know for sure.
568ad5 No.13847523
>>13847508
Don't worry, sloth talisman becomes gradually weaker as you progress. Some enemies it's great against, some it's duration is less than its cast time.
>>13847513
Nope. I thought the same thing and tried it.
289e34 No.13847527
>>13847508
Only until NG+ and beyond. btw you can get that spear.
26b335 No.13847533
>>13847523
speaking of sloth
what Is better, extend duration or decrease cast time? I'm finding both to be about as good as each other in different situations
0c2d2a No.13847534
>>13847523
I hit someone for 9000+ in a single toss of storm shuriken. The sloth talisman only mean I didn't need to dodge the one attack he would get a chance to use.
568ad5 No.13847546
>>13847533
If attack talismans are the only thing you are worried about I'd probably get the duration increase. If you use any buffs the cast time is WAY better. You should definitely be using buffs.
506882 No.13847560
>>13847533
Duration increase is sadly fucking trash compared to the other one for two reasons.
>It doesn't affect debuffs
>The cast time decrease one is much better than the one given by equipment, buffs are instant and debuffs are much faster
289e34 No.13847613
>>13847533
I always go for decreased cast time but then again I play as an offensive mage.
Really the best way of keeping sloth on an opponent for an extended amount of time is makibishi.
>>13847560
>Also you can get duration increase on equipment too.
Now ninjutsu mystic arts are a different story. Either can be very useful depending on your setup and play style.
ed5597 No.13847625
>>13847613
Don't makibishi inflict a weaker version of sloth though?
568ad5 No.13847626
>>13847613
That only slows movement, not action speed, it's a completely different debuff
efe822 No.13847664
>>13847626
it's worth mentioning that no matter what you do, debuffs become horrible later on in WOTN because of that defense buff it gives enemies
568ad5 No.13847682
>>13847664
I just did WotN and never noticed any defense buff when I used any debuff talisman. They just had fuckloads of defense to begin with so I needed to use the defense reduction talisman just to do reasonable damage.
568ad5 No.13847690
Does anyone have a list of starred equipment effects? I'd like to know what to look for forging
efe822 No.13847696
>>13847682
it's on twilight missions mainly, it makes you do less with a defense reduction than otherwise, it's pretty dumb
e69a2b No.13847697
Do weapons that are in Slot 2 but not currently being used count towards Set Bonus?
568ad5 No.13847718
>>13847696
Did both twilight missions on WotN today too. They were Umi-Bozu and Onryoki. I'm not entirely sure if Weakness Talsiman was helping on Umi-Bozu, but I know it helped on Onriyoki and sloth didn't hurt either.
568ad5 No.13847721
568ad5 No.13847727
>>13847697
>>13847721
Weapons in slot 2 (both ranged and melee) grant no stat bonuses AFAIK, but they do still activate sets. They would have to, seeing as there are several 7-piece sets with 2 melee weapons.
efe822 No.13847730
>>13847718
I don't even think you can count onriyoki as a boss, that guy is just a normal enemy
506882 No.13847748
>Second DLC puts you against Yukimura Sanada
>Never is it more apparent you're essentially fighting for the villains
I exaggerate, but I do appreciate Nioh portrays the different factions as being honorable in their own right.
568ad5 No.13847769
>>13847748
You aren't fighting for the villains. Sanada is being used by the queen bitch. Honorable or not his side is clearly fucked, and that's before you consider the Amrita subplot that drives the main character. Besides, you end up teaming up with Sanada in the end against the bitch who apparently he's in love with or something while she just wants to watch the world burn.
ed5597 No.13847770
>>13847748
It's really good at that, especially when it gives you flashbacks for all the characters, and that cutscene they gave mitsunari at the end.
26b335 No.13847775
>>13847748
William just doing whatever because he wants to suck Hanzos pecker
506882 No.13847793
>>13847769
Yes, the blame is largely shifted to the foreigners, which is a good decision, honestly.
568ad5 No.13847803
>>13847793
A big part of it in the DLC is on the spanish bitch, but I was actually referring to Yodogimi aka Chacha.
e69a2b No.13847937
>>13847721
>>13847727
That's good news, thanks.
This game's gear didn't look that great for meaningful builds early on, but as the game opens up I keep seeing more and more potential for some really good times ahead.
e69a2b No.13848240
>wandering around some kind of shipwreck shrine maze for a while
>have lit some fires but otherwise have no idea what i'm doing or where i'm even trying to go
>backtrack a bit randomly to find some treasures
>open a random door that looks like it might be a shrine shortcut
>boss is ocean welcome to boss
>shoots me with a beam that deals 4x my max hitpoints
That was all very unexpected. Right in a row, unexpected to the max.
What's the deal with this guy? From the two and a half seconds I got to look at him, I'm guessing the first two steps are Dont Get Hit and Hit It With Fire. Anything deeper than that going on?
506882 No.13848254
>>13848240
>I'm guessing the first two steps are Dont Get Hit and Hit It With Fire.
No that's pretty much it. He starts far away but goes to the side, rather easy to dodge but he's tanky. His one-hit kill water beam attack leaves him vulnerable for a short while. At 33% health he comes into the arena and he's pretty aggressive then, make sure to living weapon while dodging his hits so it doesn't deplete right away. Hyottoko masks are extremely effective against him so they're a good last measure if you don't run out of them.
26b335 No.13848267
>>13848240
>I'm guessing the first two steps are Dont Get Hit and Hit It With Fire. Anything deeper than that going on?
thats about it really untill the second phase that is basically dont get hit and hit with fire
you can use the fires to light your weapon up but the fires also kill the blobs he spawns so I never bothered
I just used fire items and bombs on him and he dies easy as shit
e69a2b No.13848350
>>13848254
>>13848267
Just gave it a second try, and you guys are right on the money. I made it to the phase where he enters the arena without getting hit, but then I fumbled around like an idiot trying to get to a better position and his little aoe water splash one-shotted me.
I should probably start putting points into body eventually.
01a2a3 No.13848403
>>13848350
Body is a trap. Don't fall for it. Only get enough to equip whatever armor increases your damage.
8b21e9 No.13848414
Is the enemy variety as bad as people say?
506882 No.13848425
>>13848414
There is variety, the problem is more than all types of enemies are reused in all areas so it's all a blur.
6dc3d2 No.13848433
>>13848254
>>13848267
>>13848403
You can either hit the glowing spots on the tentacles for damage, which is what the game seems to intend for you to do, or alternatively do what I found works also and hug the body and attack constantly. You do less damage, sure, but its a constant stream and he doesn't block or dodge so nothing gets in the way of your comboing except for the occasional, easily dodged projectile. Hugging the body also puts you in a good position to strike at the core when he does the water jet, you can hug the edges of the core and strike it for massive damage even when the jet comes out. I had more trouble with the second phase of the fight than I did with the first, probably because I tried the same strat and got baited into some nasty counterattacks.
>>13848414
>>13848425
its not that there isn't a variety of enemies to face, there is, you just will be facing yoki and skeletons more than anything else except for flavor-of-the-level mooks like lesser umi-bozu.
ed5597 No.13848441
>TFW about forty levels lower than the missions I'm doing
>TFW return of the gourd
Jesus christ, I only keep scraping by because I'm an asshole ninja, but I can't take all these revenants and we wuz AND oda.
01a2a3 No.13848450
>>13848433
I just threw flame shurikens and iga bombs at it. It died before I hit zero ammo.
>>13848441
Ah, I see you're a man of exquisite taste as well.
c67b17 No.13848451
Well just finished the base game, it was fun Nobunanga pulling a "no fuck you Kelley" made me laugh guess I'll start the DLC tomorrow hopefully I can start getting some interesting divine weapons (or at least something that I like to use, no divine odachi drop from kelley wtf m8)
6dc3d2 No.13848462
>>13848450
Well I didn't put any points into being a pussy my first time around so I just manned up and hit it with my flaming sword until it died.
e69a2b No.13848487
>>13848433
I hugged the body until it fired its waser, then used a guardian talisman to summon firedog. Did that three times and he jumped into the arena. Three hyottoko masks later and he was dead. It was more a battle of patience than anything else, like you and the other anons said.
e8fafa No.13849147
>>13848240
This is more of a general hint, but if you ever see yokai develop a greyish haze around one of their body parts make sure you get ready to dodge as it is going to be using some kind of grapple or attack.
918aa6 No.13849161
>>13844841
Dear god, there so many icons I don't understand. What do the red swords that appear on items with a number by them mean? I could swear those weren't there when I played this several months ago.
e8fafa No.13849172
>>13849161
> What do the red swords that appear on items with a number by them mean?
You mean like pic related? Those are PvP abilities for weapons I believe, I've only seen them when I've used the anima stones for reforging.
918aa6 No.13849190
>>13845333 (checked)
>>Favorite boss fight
>Spider slut
She easy as fuck. Would cuddle.
918aa6 No.13849191
>>13849172
I'm talking about usable items. They appear towards the top right, just below item count and limit. They have a number by them. No idea what it means.
40a317 No.13849195
>>13845046
What does this have to do with being casual?
6dc3d2 No.13849197
>>13849190
If you want her to be more challenging then try fighting her without collecting hiragumo fragments.
ad361d No.13849212
>favourite weapon
Sword, odachi as a close second
>favourite boss fight
Hino enma has a special place in my heart for killing me over 30 times in my first playthrough before I got good
>favourite map
Honnouji temple, wish it got used for more side missions that weren't just gauntlets of enemies or bosses.
After I lost my first save file, I had replayed through up to the Sekigahara region on Way of the Demon before putting the game aside, but now that's it out on PC and everyone's talking about it, it's got me in the mood to keep going.
a69204 No.13849216
>>13849197
The fragments only remove her leg armor. Its pointless if you're gonna attack her glowing yellow sack anyway
>>13849161
Someone with the PC version should take screenshots of all the icons with no explanation that exist.
918aa6 No.13849221
>>13848441
>TFW about forty levels lower than the missions I'm doing
I was around lvl150 when I was doing lvl250-300 missions in NG+. The gap would just keep increasing if I could just fucking get past triple Kelley. I stopped playing for a several months after beating NG and now I can't get back into the rhythm. I don't know how I beat these fuckers in NG.
e8fafa No.13849273
>>13849191
Oh, that's a similar marker. It is the amount of that item you can bring to a PvP match.
506882 No.13849293
>>13849221
Took me many fucking tries and at the end I just alt F4'd with each defeat to save on summoner candles. But basically you want :
>A kusarigama with reaper
>A strong guardian spirit
>Kill the yoki premptively, break their containers and kill them, as long as you don't enter the greater room the kelleys won't spawn
>When you do, activate your LW right in front of the left tank and reaper the shit out of him. If he goes out of the tank, he'll fall down and waste precious reaper time
>If you kill the first one fast enough, you can get on the second one, probably shave half his health
At that point you want to focus on dodging, two kelleys are sorta manageable to dodge and punish. There's a safe spot of sorts left to the entrance, you can't hide forever but sometimes one of them will get stuck running against another tank. Gives just enough time to consume soulstones you have on shortcut to get another LW.
No matter what you do, DON'T go straight to Hundred eyes after this. Return to the shrine.
e39e0a No.13849309
Quick question: what does it mean when yokai have a flashing red stamina bar?
I can't seem to perform any special finishing moves on them, especially the bosses. Do they just take extra damage or what?
1c7f21 No.13849315
>>13849273
Start hitting them with low stance and find out.
1c7f21 No.13849317
a69204 No.13849331
>>13849309
reduces their "poise" by a lot allowing you to stunlock them. One of the reasons why instant cast is better than longer duration. Ki depletion allows even the Odachi to inflict status effects.
a3a43f No.13849357
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13849309
To add on to what >>13849331 said, this is the time to go CURAZY and do endless combos with stance switch/weapon switch ki pulses because as long as you're fast enough they'll never recover.
a69204 No.13849374
This reminds me. How vulnerable are bosses to paralysis?
a6fb98 No.13849376
when the fuck do you get a second spirit
a69204 No.13849382
>>13849376
Less than three hours in IIRC
are you just taking a long time doing missions?
506882 No.13849383
>>13849376
Finish the main game, it unlocks in NG+.
a6fb98 No.13849429
>>13849383
when exactly in ng+? I beat the game the other night and am doing some of the side missions now. currently getting my ass kicked because of all the brutal 2v1's they're throwing at me.
506882 No.13849448
>>13849429
Well, I thought it was right after unlocking NG+, since it comes with the ability to enhance your guardian spirit and it was definitely early on.
Or maybe it's by starting the DLC now that I think about it.
07c066 No.13849633
>>13849429
go to the abyss, should unlock there
506882 No.13849753
>Unlock the spear skill that changes the finisher attack
>It's pretty flashy but doesn't seem to do that much more damage
>I eventually realize it leaves the target on the ground for a second finisher
>This is after getting a weaken melee weapons on an Akaoni no sankaku and I haven't even unlocked mystic arts yet
d47db4 No.13849765
>>13849753
Same shit happened to me with the dual swords parry skill
>Parry -> Crit
>Crit again
Since that moment I've been running axe + 2kat for everything.
568ad5 No.13849813
>>13849197
>>13849216
I did not know they did anything at all. Removing her leg armor is pointless though as far as I can tell, it only deflects low stance attacks and it doesn't actually prevent the damage from going through.
568ad5 No.13849827
>>13849221
>>13849293
I have a much better cheese strat for the 3 kellys. Kill the two Oni preemptively as normal, then try and kite the kellys one at a time into the corner between to the oni tanks and the closed gate. Kelly has a really stupid running animation that forces him to go in a straight line permanently until he reaches you, meaning it can get stuck on any kind of geometry. Going into this corner means the other two kellys are likely to get stuck on the way.
To kill the single kelly I just wail on him with my kusarigama low-stance quick attacks. I have "parry disabled" on my gama, so this just locks him into a blocking animation until I break his key, knock him down and final blow. Kelly has an extremely low parry value so breaking his ki only takes like 2 combos even on WotN
84752a No.13850033
So I've been playing through this rather casually as a sword build and barely doing any ninja or mage stuff, except for the Way of the whatever Quests in the dojo.
Been having a hard time so far, and I'd like to git gud and crazy.
Are there any stats I should ignore, and what are good spells?
I've only ever used the fire weapon buff and fire shot, along with anti toxin and anti paralysis pills. Didn't see much use in the ninjastars shit.
When do I get mystic arts? I unlocked all other skills.
506882 No.13850043
>>13850033
Mystic arts are unlocked after doing the last dojo missions. Each weapon type unlocks it when you hit 50 or 500K proficiency, not sure which. Onmyo and Ninjutsu unlock at 20 magic and dexterity respectively.
568ad5 No.13850056
>>13850043
The mystic art missions unlock in I think the 5th region. You need to get that far first before you worry about the 20 stat/500k prof
606f51 No.13850108
>there will never be a game like Nioh set in ancient greece, with greek armors and weapons and monsters
>there are no greekaboos in the vidya industry to make it happen
;_;
506882 No.13850111
>>13850108
There's always apotheon, but I can't in good conscience say it's like Nioh.
e69a2b No.13850613
>>13849147
Oh shit, I never put that together. I've just been learning to identify their movements based on the first few startup frames of their attack animations.
Thanks, anon, this will definitely lower my tension levels, especially since I've been seeing more and more of those giant long-tongue guys lately. Getting hit is pretty much an insta-death in all situations with those guys. Only the first one I encountered actually managed to hit me and kill me, but their attacks come out so fast and they're so aggressive that I'm always white-knuckling every fight with them. Although I kind of love them because of how stressful they are for me.
93b2cc No.13850627
>>13850613
yeah they were a bit hard for me until I realized that blocking the tongue costs almost no ki, so you don't have to dodge all the time
e69a2b No.13850649
>>13850627
>blocking
Just like Living Weapon, I always forget that blocking exists. I've barely used either outside of the dojo tutorials. Are all weapons equally viable for blocking, or are there specific blocking weapons like maybe tonfa?
Also, when does Living Weapon become viable? Is there a particular Spirit Bond level I need to work towards? The few times I've tried it against some of the earlier bosses, I was lucky to get a single swing before it ended.
568ad5 No.13850668
>>13850649
Higher Parry value, and more importantly higher toughness on armor affects your blocking.
Toughness serves two purposes, to reduce the ki you use while blocking and to prevent hits from stunning you (like Poise in dark souls). The poise cap is at 200 toughness, which you can see because the color of the number changes. I don't think the guard ki reduction has a cap at all.
a69204 No.13850675
>>13850649
Blocking is pretty useful no matter what weapon you're using. Don't block too much in high stance though, that will eat through your Ki.
>I was lucky to get a single swing before it ended.
Don't get hit when you're using it. While you are invincible when its happening, getting hit reduces the time on it by a lot.
506882 No.13850679
>DLC introduces the arrowstop talisman
>It stops arrows
>Alright then, I'll pop one in the areas in DLC2 that constantly get pelted with arrows
<Woah woah man, are you crazy ? It stops arrows, not those arrows :^)
>>13850649
> The few times I've tried it against some of the earlier bosses, I was lucky to get a single swing before it ended.
That's because you got hit. Don't, it depletes the bar in a hurry. Living Weapon is always viable, you just have to understand it's an infinite combo+range+elemental buff, not god mode.
af8ee4 No.13850693
>>13849357
What is this piece of poorly encoded shit?
>That long ass fucking time to kill enemies instead of using elemental damage to defeat them faster or spamming kicks to drain their KI
>Pretending like easily done combos and stance/weapon switching is skill when he can't even get perfect KI flux inputs
I know the objective is "muh combos" but thats still fucking easy as shit to do and not viable unless you want to get bored to tears
What a truly awful video
e69a2b No.13850699
>>13850668
Ah, gotcha. I doubt it would work for the way I build, then. I go for the absolute minimum equipment weight and the only status I look for are Luck and Item Drop.
In all games with loot farming, I only build for looting until I get to end game where stable builds start to exist.
I've tried heavier builds with lots of toughness and defense, but I've never really felt it affect anything and I hated how slow I moved.
I've always been twitch-dodge focused in action games anyway, so maybe I'll be fine. If there are enemies down the line where dodging is absolutely not viable, I will buckle down and learn to block.
>>13850675
>>13850679
>getting hit reduces the time on it
>not god mode
Are you fucking kidding me? I bet the tutorial even said that and I just glossed over it. I thought the point of living weapon was so that you could just be invincible and face-mash on enemies without worry for ~10 seconds.
I will start to learn to use it properly now, rather than wasting it like a retard. Thanks anons.
568ad5 No.13850705
>>13850699
Just run 200 toughness and enough stamina to get your Agility rating to B. A rating just isn't worth it.
506882 No.13850711
>>13850699
Well, it reduces your worries certainly, but you still have to dodge the really nasty strikes. Although you haven't experienced true frustration until you pop living weapon only to get immediately grabbed.
6dc3d2 No.13850717
>>13850699
Attacks you're supposed to block instead of dodge typically do little Ki damage so you won't have to build for it. If you want to be dodgeman I suggest getting bonuses on your weapon for low stance since that's dodge city.
568ad5 No.13850732
>>13850699
I know WHY you like light armor. In most games, Heavy armor only helps you if you get hit. If you can block/dodge everything then armor doesn't matter at all. Here, Armor improves your ability to block things, which is a huge difference over most games
e69a2b No.13850749
>>13850705
>>13850711
>>13850717
>>13850732
Well, I suppose it wouldn't hurt to start keeping an eye out for blocking stats on gear. I'll start with some parrying and try to ease myself into the habit of using the block button, too.
506882 No.13850803
>>13850732
Also worth noting is that there's a clear delay between getting hit and being able to dodge, so dodging away from a chain of attacks is simply not viable sometimes. The game expects you to block, which sucks when you're accustomed to dork souls which has the opposite philosophy.
af8ee4 No.13850815
>>13850803
>The game expects you to block
Try blocking Nekomatas eye beams
506882 No.13850833
>>13850815
Well, not everything obviously. I meant it more in the sense the combat is built around you using block rather than it being a crutch.
e69a2b No.13850846
Starting to pay more attention to equipment stats now, and I have a question about this right here.
The tooltip says "Your ki will never completely run out, even if an enemy attack reduces your Ki to zero." So how does "never" and 24% combine here?
Is it "when ki hits zero you have a 24% chance to not do the out-of-breath animation", or is it "your ki will never drop below 24% no matter what"?
6dc3d2 No.13850849
>>13850846
24% chance to proc. 76% of the time you'll go out of Ki.
a69204 No.13850850
>>13850846
There is a 24% chance of that effect proccing
568ad5 No.13850855
>>13850815
Reduced element damage while guarding maybe?
e69a2b No.13850859
>>13850849
>>13850850
Alright, that makes sense.
a3a43f No.13851012
>>13850855
Its physical damage and it can't be blocked.
d05f7f No.13851013
>>13850846
While you're at it, a protip: Defensive multiplier is mostly useless. You're not going to notice a difference at your levels unless you dump it entirely. Shit that's going to two-shot you is going to two-shot you whether you have 50 defense, or 350 defense. It's not until you can get into the near thousands does it ever become relevant. Don't run around entirely naked, but the defense you get from light armor will do you about as much good as heavy armor of the same level.
Toughness and weight are the only base values that matter much. You can pretty easily cobble together armor that will put you at 200 toughness and keep your agility at rank B. You can wear lighter armor if you want to get agility rank A, but never go below 100 toughness if you can avoid it. Getting staggered is killer.
a69204 No.13851017
>>13851013
>Getting staggered is killer
you can cancel stagger into block and then cancel that into a dodge or attack
a65b01 No.13851084
>>13851013
Defense matters if you stack it with high damage reduction.
d05f7f No.13851100
>>13851017
But that does mean you can't just ignore the hit like you could with more toughness. It's the difference between finishing something off with a good combo, and having to run around because something was poking you in the side for piddly damage preventing you from getting your attacks off. It also affects your ability to block and how much ki damage you take from blocks. 200 toughness is still ideal.
Really though whether you want to go with A agility and 100+ toughness and B agility with 200+ is up to preference. I've been running around with option 1 a lot lately after running option 2 for a while, but I don't notice the difference in agility as much as the difference in toughness. There's definitely a difference though. I still stand by my "don't go below 100 toughness" claim; I'd probably just add "don't drop below B rank agility" as well.
d05f7f No.13851110
>>13851084
As far as I cold tell, it's the damage reduction that counts and not the defensive multiplier. And even then, I said it only becomes relevant when you can stack it sky-high.
a69204 No.13851123
>>13851100
>but I don't notice the difference in agility as much as the difference in toughness
At agility A you have almost as many invincibility frames on low stance dodge as you have unsafe ones if not more and you can cancel some of those unsafe frames into another dodge.
Its kind of absurd tbh.
c80676 No.13851143
>>13851110
Both matter. Defense is flat-ish reduction AFTER percent reduction, so they stack together exponentially. Body/health is also really good with high def/reduction.
0b269d No.13851187
Just picked this up for ps4 with the season pass, planning on starting it up over the weekend.
I'm a sucker for iaijutsu so I want to go single katana, but what would be a good side weapon? I was thinking spear for the sheer reach of it.
Also, any other tips for someone starting out fairly blind?
a69204 No.13851230
>>13851187
Odachi also has an Iai attack.
Before committing your samurai points to a weapon give all the weapons a try to see which moveset you like. Then take a look at the weapon's abilities to see if you want to use them or not.
it doesn't really matter as you can respec for 1 million dosh at most
e69a2b No.13851246
>>13851013
I hear what you're saying. Right now, my problem is that almost everything bigger than trash either one-shots me or brings me to critical. That's not a problem for most things, since I just git gud and then they almost never hit me ever again.
My current struggle is in the second region where you have to fight some kind of bird man that stole a dude's sword or something. It's in the same arena where you fight the giant laser pudding.
That fucking bird hits so god damn hard, there's not a single attack I can withstand. Just gotta beat him without getting hit, and I've gotten close now on attempt 5 and then I dodged into the ocean like a fucking idiot
I don't really see any of the armor in my collection doing much to mitigate this kind of damage, and all of the dangerous attacks can't be blocked without destroying my ki (though I only have 130 toughness).
I'm not complaining though. This is kind of like fighting Tigrex for the first time all over again: wait for an opening, swing once, don't get greedy, dodge back out of range, wait for another opening, don't fuck up even once or it's game over.
My only minor gripe is that I wish I knew how to reliably stagger things in this game. I'm using an axe with +break and +(stance)break chance and most things just act like I swung a dry towel at them. Fushigi as fuck.
a69204 No.13851281
>>13851246
>and all of the dangerous attacks can't be blocked without destroying my ki
Are you blocking in mid stance?
The only attack of his you might need to block is the staff swipe.
If you have poison shurikens you can use those. A sloth talisman trivializes it just like anything else.
What weapon are you using?
e69a2b No.13851343
6th time was the charm. He somehow dropped his stamina down to red after 5 minutes of me mostly just dodging, and then he immediately went down like a bitch since red stamina apparently gives them boneitis.
>>13851281
>what weapon are you using
Axe and Odachi. I'm trying to decide which one I like more so that I can get a faster weapon into one of the slots, but every time I think I like one over the other, I change my mind. They're just both so good.
>you can use shurikens and talismans
I've played around with the magics and the tricks, but other than killing slimes, I almost never bother to use them. If all three storm kunai hit, they do a total of half the damage a single quick axe attack will do, so not that useful. I doubt I'll be putting more than 10/11 points into the ninja and magic stats, and I might even respec them down to minimum. I've never really been into magic or item usage in games anyway.
>The only attack of his you might need to block is the staff swipe.
That one took me a while because it comes out so quick, but I got the timing down and it's not a threat anymore. I had more trouble dodging his flying charge and grabs since they felt like they were homing at first, but it turns out I was just feeling the fear and dodging too early.
>Are you blocking in mid stance?
Yeah, though I was blocking with the axe/odachi's parry skills. I don't know if that reduces block effectiveness or not, but in retrospect it probably does.
c80676 No.13851357
>>13851230
Dual swords has an iai attack too, but single has 3 of them and more set bonuses for those skills
07d41b No.13851395
>>13851343
Don't forget that your living weapon exists for fights like that one.
e69a2b No.13851417
>>13851395
I completely forgot that it existed at all, once again. I'm really making this much harder on myself than it needs to be.
8ac4a3 No.13851462
>>13851246
If you get lucky the tengu will jump into the water all by himself.
e69a2b No.13851507
Fucking finally killed that Minishigi cunt in the region 1 duel. It only took me being twice his level to manage it. The fucker cannot be staggered, his iai shit is instantaneous and cannot be reaction-dodged so you just have to memorize and count from when he starts it to when it will probably teleport and hope you time it right, and his faggot lightning dogs chain and just keep coming at you from behind and shit. My veins are filled with salt right now.
The winning strategy:
>start duel by firing a hand-cannon into his head before the duel begins
>run up to him and stab him before he can get up
>spam the green bird guardian tarot card thing to knock him down
>stab him again while he's down
>repeat until out of cards
>switch to low stance
>try to maneuver him into a corner while smoking elixers like a crack addict
>close eyes and mash quick attack and pray
I was actually keeping Living Weapon in mind this time, too, but there were no trash enemies to kill to charge it up sadly. As for blocking, the only thing that I'd want to block is that iai bullshit, but that does full damage through blocks AND reduces my ki to zero as a bonus.
e69a2b No.13851513
>>13851462
I would probably have shit myself if that had happened.
c72550 No.13851594
>>13851507
Well, Muneshige is supposed to be one of the strongest warriors of Japan at that time, so yeah, he had to be hard. I find the best way to deal with him (as with any human boss) is to manage distance and bait attacks so you can deplete his ki and counter. Problem is he has mobility out the ass compared to the others but nothing compared to Masamune Date. Kusa high strong attack always helps. Onmyo magic, too. Its attack spells are mostly trash (a few guardian spirits excepted) but the supports are amazing.
Also you can charge LW by consuming spirit stones. Impractical against someone like Muneshige as you can imagine.
c80676 No.13851640
>>13851594
He doesn't have a LW so he's vulnerable to serpent strike>foot sweep. Harder than some because the fight is on a hill but perfectly doable
44f774 No.13851706
>>13851343
>>13851507
I'm in region 4 and I still have no idea how you're supposed to play this game exactly, because of stuff like this and much more. Enemies seem to randomly just do whatever they want, whether it is yokai breaking out of staggers mid combo or any enemy just blocking shit forever even when they don't even look like they have any ki left. And everything kills in 1-2 hits and will spam shit like crazy. The progression seems like shit too, since every mission shit just gets harder, making any new gear I find feel the same as the last shit I had.
The game still has some fun shit, and plenty of potential, but if things keep on like this I don't seem much fun or point in going on to higher difficulties besides gear with higher numbers on them.
a69204 No.13851806
>>13851507
>The fucker cannot be staggered
He absolutely can be. You can even chain crit him.
>his iai shit is instantaneous and cannot be reaction-dodged
It isn't. His Iai attacks have an extremely long telegraph where you can just switch to low stance and spam dodge to avoid it. If you have trouble with that due to low agility then you can just use the rocks in the corner to cheese him.
The only reason you had trouble with him is because you aren't used to how bullshit a fully unlocked sword tree is. Be glad he doesn't parry.
e69a2b No.13851838
>>13851806
>just switch to low stance and spam dodge to avoid it
That's what I was doing, but it was still a roll of the dice if it would actually work. I just used knockdown cheese as well as an opening shot that blew away a quarter of his health, and that seemed to work just fine.
Cheese is always a viable and worthy strategy.
8ac4a3 No.13851876
>>13851706
Two things you need to take into consideration.
1. Youkai and humans have different rules governing how they function and how you have to deal with them.
Regardless of what they look like physically you can always differentiate between them by their stamina bar. This may seem elementary but there are a few cases where it might become confusing.
2. Progression is more level based than gear based.
For you first play through the game your level should be approximately the same as the recommended mission level for each mission. Gear is there to assist your play style. Set bonuses basically.
07d41b No.13851900
>>13851507
Just run circles around the little rock and he should kill himself out of boredom next time.
26b335 No.13851902
>>13851876
>For you first play through the game your level should be approximately the same as the recommended mission level for each mission. Gear is there to assist your play style. Set bonuses basically.
Id say during the last few story missions I was around 40 behind in levels
as for gear just kill a few spirits every 5 or so levels
a69204 No.13852146
>>13851838
He cannot deal with the odachi high stance attacks at all either. Nothing fancy required, just equip an odachi and time your swings and rolls in a high stance while keeping your distance.
e8fafa No.13852448
>>13851507
There's different ways to deal with him, if you want to be a faggot like I was when I first played you can just use the rock to block his spirit and his strikes. I beat him on way of the wise and way of the nioh on the plains with my tonfas by understanding his moveset and moving away from him when he does his iai strikes, he offers hit opportunities after his attacks and if you are a LW build there are amrita talismans from the omnyo school that allow you to accumulate amrita on hits or you can use spirit stones.
26b335 No.13852678
ayyyyyyyyyyyyyooooooooooooooooo THEM SOME FUCKING NINJA DOGS
26b335 No.13852688
>>13852678
also apprently THERE IS A FUCKING WAY TO SHOOT THOSE CANNONS
fucking hell I just ran past everything and died like 20 times trying to get all the green men
c67b17 No.13853163
>Ice lady and Nobunanga at the same time
GIve me a fucking break game I dont even have divine armor, guess I'll go grind the gauntlet of bosse in the last mission now
918aa6 No.13853169
c67b17 No.13853189
>>13853169
>Double Oda
… but why?
Stil, I decided to stop that and go and get all the kodamas that I missed, since I didn't find anything with kodama sense until like the third region I think
44f774 No.13853192
>>13851902
>as for gear just kill a few spirits every 5 or so levels
Fighting spirits seems mostly useless. I've gotten 1-2 pieces of good gear from them in over 30 hours of play, and they just stand around guarding 90% of the time making the fights a chore.
8ac4a3 No.13853247
>>13853192
> I've gotten 1-2 pieces of good gear from them in over 30 hours of play
Go to Kuroshima shore or the bridge gauntlet sub mission and keep farming revenants and refreshing them at the shrine when you run out.
>and they just stand around guarding 90% of the time making the fights a chore
Cheese them with the kusarigama.
c72550 No.13853251
>>13853163
I finished Way of the Strong before I even gave those double bosses the light of day. Ornstein and Smough was a mistake.
26b335 No.13853352
>>13853192
> I've gotten 1-2 pieces of good gear from them in over 30 hours of play, and they just stand around guarding 90% of the time making the fights a chore.
Really? they pretty much were all my gear upgrades, hell still are in Wots besides a few things ive found while playing the DLC
also they are easy to trip up or just eat their ki so it takes like no effort to kill with grapples
568ad5 No.13853387
>>13853192
>>13853352
Revenants are limited to only divine items (max) level 150+0. No matter what gear the player is wearing it will either be downgraded or sharded. Developer revenants (red names) might not be subject to the same rules.
44f774 No.13855422
>>13853352
>Really?
Yeah. It's usually not great stuff, or stuff I'm not gonna use like heavy armor. The pieces that drop being random doesn't help either. I did manage to get a nice sword and armor set yesterday though so that's cool. The ones online are better for sure. The offline ones may as well not exist since they always seemed to drop garbage.
c72550 No.13855453
So regarding guardian spirits, their stats aside, which of their summons do you find the most useful/powerful ?
Enko and Kara-jishi are pretty brutal but hard to aim with their significant delay. Kato, Atlas Bear and Nekomata seem to be among the most reliable. Tengen Kujaku is neat when in LW mode since he switches the element, but he doesn't seem to do shit as a simple summon.
568ad5 No.13855467
>>13855422
Most offline revenants drop garbage. A few offline revenants have unique drops not available anywhere else in the game
c40f75 No.13855469
>>13855453
I use aya komori or yatagarasu along with either saorsie or nekomata as secondaries. Komori gives 14%unlimited ninjutsu and yatagarasu 10%unlimited ammo and a stronger LW. I only use saorsie and nekokmata in secondary for the Amrita bonuses.
0acac3 No.13855632
>>13855453
Suzaku's two orbits then down to deck attack is what I relied on through a big part of the game. Nurihyon's constant damage pools of water is another good one. Mizuchi and Diaba are both a favorite for cheesing humans and so is Tanuki to a slightly lesser extent.
Itokuri is a special case. I would have never used her for very much time at all if it wasn't for the bonus to item drop rate but I came to really appreciate how useful she really is.
c72550 No.13855849
>Painstakingly reach 68K glory
>Take a coop mission, ends up being in WotStrong twilight realm and nets more than 8000 goddamn glory
Can't complain I guess.
>>13855469
I meant specifically their summons, you know, through guardian/moment talisman.
>>13855632
What does Itokuri do ? Something with slow I imagine ?
ff4601 No.13855873
>>13855849
>Throwing away your hard earned glory for that bitch instead of waiting to get glorious Okatsu
c72550 No.13855902
>>13855873
>Wanting to be Ieyasu's bastard daughter instead of a woman so worthy she was named successor by her daimyo father
Okatsu isn't worth a revenant of her inflated 100k.
e69a2b No.13855915
Why was Spider Nest Castle so fucking ___FUN?
ed5597 No.13855928
>>13855873
>>13855902
>not fuku with the thigh cut-outs
plebs the both of you.
0acac3 No.13856040
>>13855849
She's got a two part attack. Itokuri's direct contact acts like a sloth talisman but she also leaves behind webs on the ground like what Jorogumo does that further slows enemies. Also as a bonus you get paralysis status attack on melee weapons, not just when you are in LW mode either.
568ad5 No.13856050
>>13855902
I honestly didn't realize she was anything but Muneshinge's wife, although you overstate her role as clan head. She inherited only because there was no one else, and she was only 6 years old so clearly she hadn't done anything of note.
a69204 No.13856070
>PC port supports Ansel
huh
c72550 No.13856154
>>13856050
I did exaggerate on purpose, the extent of my knowledge on Ginchiyo being that she was chosen as successor because there was no male heir and some accounts about her training in combat. Like all women of this era, information is sporadic at best.
Never saw anything about her being 6 years old at the time though. A daimyo naming his daughter as successor is crazy enough when political adoption for the sole purpose of naming an heir is commonplace in Japan. Why designate a kid ?
f98524 No.13856168
I read that this shit port doesn't even have m+kb controls. Doesn't sound worth a pirate if that's true.
568ad5 No.13856199
So here I finally have my gear together. It still doesn't do nearly as much damage as I would have hoped, so I feel like I'm still missing something. It's a debuff build obviously, so I debuff myself and gain supposedly massive damage from it.
a69204 No.13856266
>>13856199
What are you using to take screenshots?
e69a2b No.13856276
>ice boss lady
>almost kill her on first attempt
>don't get as far on second attempt because she pulls out a new spell from her pretty snowbutt
>get killed even earlier on third attempt because she pulls out two new spells
>die almost immediately on fourth attempt because she chains her spells like the fucking flash in a way i've never seen before
>start leveling off and taking her to about 50% on every attempt since
>out of elixers so have to do each run with 4
Her pattern appears totally random, with her doing her long range attacks even if I'm right next to her and her close-range heel-stamp even if I'm across the arena from her, so I really just have to try to do this 100% on reflex I think. I only have four elixers, but honestly I shouldn't even need one so I'm not going to count that as a negative. I will not be using living weapon because she's holding my fire puppy hostage with 180,000 amrita.
Just for the sake of my sanity, how many attacks does she have? If she pulls out something new again I may have a stroke.
I've seen:
>three ice missiles that rapid-fire at your position
>three ice missiles that fire four times each in a 30 degree cone in your general direction
>twelve ice missiles that scattershot at your position and leave patches on the floor
>nine ice missiles that shoot the ground around her and leave patches
>sexy heel-stamp that makes ice explode around her
>horror-movie zoom-lunge across half the arena that never seems to actually connect but bless her heart she's trying
>standard three-swing combo that's just like whatever
Am I missing anything?
568ad5 No.13856280
ed5597 No.13856290
>>13856276
She has one where she throws her polearm at you.
e69a2b No.13856305
>>13856290
Just in a straight line, I'm guessing? I'll try to be ready for it, thanks.
ed5597 No.13856311
>>13856305
Yeah, just right at you. It doesn't go all the way though, it boomerangs back to her I think.
568ad5 No.13856315
>>13856311
If it hits you it's like getting hit by a wheel skeleton, it just keeps spinning and fucking you up
903e62 No.13856385
>>13856276
> and her close-range heel-stamp even if I'm across the arena from her,
That really weirded me out. I was on the other side of the arena throwing shurikens at her and she just spent the whole fight stomping.
e69a2b No.13856414
>>13856311
>>13856315
>she throws a boomerang wheel skeleton
1615ef No.13856439
>>13856276
run away from her circle-wise and shoot arrows at her at a safe distance.
ed5597 No.13856450
>>13856414
What's your set up anon? I didn't find her too bad.
a69204 No.13856480
>>13856276
>I will not be using living weapon because she's holding my fire puppy hostage with 180,000 amrita.
just fucking summon it back and spend them.
568ad5 No.13856485
>>13856276
>I only have four elixers
This is why I made sure to hunt down every single goddamned kodama. I experienced this shit in region one and never again could I allow my Elixirs to run low.
If you don't know, you get +1 starting free elixir per 5 kodamas you've found in a region, and also the healer blessing provides a MASSIVE boost to finding elixirs from drops if you need to stock up.
568ad5 No.13856622
>>13856199
I think I'll try to put together a Sakuyahime stone throwing gear set next
568ad5 No.13856672
>>13856622
excuse me, that's Sukunahikona
e69a2b No.13857154
>>13856450
Melee-only, used to be axe and odachi, currently using 2kat and spear, but I switch up my weapons constantly and don't really have a main. I'm really hoping there's enough points to max every tree because I like them all for different circumstances and don't really want to choose.
>>13856485
I did not know that, and that is very good to know. I've now found all of the little gremlins in the ice level, so that should . now.
>>13856439
Would that even do enough damage to kill her? I don't even think I have my full compliment of arrows since I use them to snipe anything standing still with its dome exposed.
I could see an arrow to her head doing maybe 1200 damage to her, but she's incredibly tanky so I don't know.
ed5597 No.13857174
>>13857154
>max out every tree
Not gonna happen. however you'll have enough to get the important stuff, and the ki pulse while dodging transfer to every weapon, so everything will be usable. I'd say use your 2kat and try to rush in and stay in low stance to rush back out when she stomps. Use some fire talismans if you have any, the disposable kind you don't get from onmyo.
568ad5 No.13857207
>>13857174
You'll have plenty to max everything out in way of the nioh,
fa20d9 No.13857327
>>13856276
>horror-movie zoom-lunge across half the arena that never seems to actually connect but bless her heart she's trying
If she does it fucks you up bad. And she can immediately follow it up with another one if she wants or with any other attack.
>Her pattern appears totally random
Yeah she can be pretty rough because of her large retinue of attacks and she gets nastier and faster as her health gets lower. Even draining her ki doesn't make her safe for approach unlike most other bosses.
>she's holding my fire puppy hostage
Do you have a summoner's candle?
73dc07 No.13857351
I miss the old generals with the samurai jack intro, please make a less shitty OP next time
e69a2b No.13857353
>>13857327
Summoner's candle enables the "Call Back" button on the shrine screen, right? I thought that ate up all the amrita to use.
568ad5 No.13857374
>>13857353
candle immediately calls the spirit back WITH the amrita
e69a2b No.13857378
fa20d9 No.13857390
>>13857353
>enables the "Call Back" button on the shrine screen, right?
NO. DON'T USE CALL BACK. You can use a summoner's candle anytime you don't have to be at a shrine. Only use Call Back if you don't care about losing all the amrita that your spirit is guarding.
d47db4 No.13857396
>>13857374
>calls the spirit back WITH the amrita
Are you, by any chance, fucking kidding me?
568ad5 No.13857400
>>13857396
It's a rare item. Essentially it's equivalent to a ring of sacrifice from dark souls, except after the fact.
fa20d9 No.13857416
>>13857400
>It's a rare item.
You do eventually get a smithing text for candles though. Of course you have to forge them with ogress claws so…
d47db4 No.13857428
>>13857400
Well that would've been useful to know in the beginning of my fucking playthrough
I had 12 of those things rotting in my inventory
568ad5 No.13857430
>>13857416
I said rare, not limited. It's also possible to farm them on certain missions, they are a guaranteed fixed drop from certain loot and unlike hair they are repeatable.
Unfortunately a candle can't be used in the Abyss, you need a bell instead, which as an exceptionally rare random drop in the abyss.
918aa6 No.13857433
>>13857428
Not worth it. You'll get way more amrita later on.
568ad5 No.13857438
>>13857433
Amrita gains go up exponentially. In WotN you can easily get half a billion amrita from a single kill in some places.
e69a2b No.13857449
How important is Attack Multiplier versus the other stats on a weapon?
Also, is stuff like "vs. Water" on armor very effective if I try to stack it, or is it best to focus again on other ability type stats?
This is my current setup. The armor is all stuff you're supposed to find in the level, I think, since it's all matching and every piece is vs. Water. The two Fans just add +10% or so to fire damage, so I want to combine that with the fire charms.
My 2kat seems to have good stats for exactly how I use it (spamming quick low stance attacks and then fucking off), but there's a 2kat with 10 more attack multiplier and I don't really know what would be best. I assume the lower attack one with the better abilities.
I do have a little bit of low-level ninjutsu and onmyo from early experiments with it, so I'm able to use a couple of fire things which I've also equipped.
568ad5 No.13857517
>>13857449
Attack is the important stat. I'm not really sure the difference between multiplier and attack (at the top) but I only look at attack.
Vs Element is usually a wasted stat, water especially. It's not terrible at slowing buildup of the elemental status but I'm not actually sure it blocks any of the damage at all. Rarely is it worth having, and even then only Wind, Lightning, and Paralysis are worth worrying about.
If you don't already know, Water reduces defense, Fire does (pathetic) damage over time, Wind massively reduces attack so you can barely hurt the enemies, Lightning reduces action speed (attack/dodge), and Earth reduces ki regeneration.
568ad5 No.13857572
>>13857449
A C+ increased damage only gives you about 5% at most (that is, 0-5% depending on how many hits). A rank is 16% at max, no matter which kind
e69a2b No.13857640
>>13857572
>>13857517
So I had it backwards, then. The big number is what matters and the rest are minimally effective at best?
e388da No.13857735
>>13857517
so is the only worthwhile element is wind and lightning?
918aa6 No.13857755
>>13857735
>Not lightning and water
568ad5 No.13857764
>>13857735
>>13857755
The only elements worth worrying about are lightning and wind. Water is a very strong element for your own weapons, but what does it matter if the enemy lowers your defense compared to cutting your effective damage by 80%?
e69a2b No.13857879
I think I've hit my limit with this ice cunt. Over 20 attempts now and no improvement.
She's hitting me with basically every single attack except for the ice missiles because I can't react fast enough to them. I just don't know how to identify what she's going to do before the attack comes out, and once it's out my reflexes can't match it.
I've tried listening for audio cues, but she has two "HYEEARRGH" yells and the attack she does after them is random. It's like she was designed specifically to troll people who look for logic in boss design.
e69a2b No.13857884
Oh, and I tried the "just shoot her with arrows "strategy another anon suggested. All of my arrows do only 110 damage to her. I don't know if there's a way to build for bow damage, but I'm no built for it that's for sure. It would take about 2,000 arrows to take her down this way.
568ad5 No.13857895
>>13857879
Time to cheese with a sloth talisman then.
e69a2b No.13857905
>>13857895
I don't have any of those. Don't think I've ever even seen one.
568ad5 No.13857911
>>13857905
It's an Onmyo magic jutsu
e69a2b No.13857922
>>13857911
Oh, my magic level is 9 or 10, I think. I have just enough points to use guardian summons and some fire talismans. My ninjutsu stat is also only 9 or 10. I like to hit things with swords, not wiggle my fingers from behind trees, for the most part.
568ad5 No.13857937
>>13857922
Sloth talisman cuts enemy speed by 50% or more. Basically it would leave the ice bitch unable to move or fight back, and it really wouldn't cost many points into magic to buy it.
d47db4 No.13857946
>>13857879
Dodge to her side. Side steps should dodge most of her fastest attacks, and a stomp can easily be evaded by dodging sideways followed by another dodge away from her. Stay on low stance, you're not going to get a chance to combo so just do quick hit & run attacks
Also if you use a sword it's possible to dodge her heel stomp attack by using the enemy step into air slash technique, and it looks fucking sick
e69a2b No.13857959
>>13857937
Looks like three points. I could probably get that with only one level, I think. It might be worth farming up the 65k amrita to get that level, I suppose.
>>13857946
Dodging the stomp is no problem, but I can't dodge the boomerang or her basic attack combo, or her lunge anymore (which used to never hit me) because I can't tell which attack she's doing until it's already hit me.
I think I have a brain problem today.
d47db4 No.13857974
>>13857959
She does have kinda clear tells for each attack, I remember because it was also frustrating the fuck out of me until I could see it all of a sudden. I think it was by looking at her weapon most of the time.
e69a2b No.13857983
When's a good time to activate Living Weapon? Or is there a fast way to activate it without all that animation that swoops the camera away from the enemy for 3 seconds?
I keep getting my shit destroyed while still locked in the "I'm so fucking cool with my fire dog" animation.
>>13857974
>looking at her weapon
I'll give that a try, thanks anon. I've always mostly been an audio-cues type, so she's been driving me bananas with her randomness.
568ad5 No.13857991
>>13857983
You are literally invincible during that animation though
e69a2b No.13858008
>>13857991
My living weapon lasted all of half of a second following it, because she had her boomerang spinning in my face as it ended.
Sometimes it doesn't do that animation, though, like just now, and I don't know what I'm doing differently to cause it to happen or not happen.
For some reason this time, though, my attacks with my living weapon were doing even less damage than my standard attacks with a fire talisman, and that makes no sense. I feel like I'm losing my mind.
898811 No.13858015
>>13857959
Take a break and come back with a fresh mind anon. Quick Change scrolls (ninjutsu) are a good investment, basically an extra life. You can also add a touch-me-not scroll to that for a nice combo (die, body explodes, reappear). Don't forget about your living weapon either, anything with an A+ amrita gauge rate will make your life easier (don't have to farm amrita for as long).
Other than that the only advice I can offer you is to practice. (^:
568ad5 No.13858039
>>13858008
I think the animation only plays the first time you use living weapon per life/stage. After that it uses the short version, just my guess
345ed7 No.13858043
>tfw getting the frog cunt down to a sliver and he clips me with that fucking charge attack
>mfw going back in and curbstomping his ass
e69a2b No.13858046
>>13858015
>add a touch-me-not scroll to that for a nice combo (die, body explodes, reappear)
Holy shit, that's what they're for? I thought they were for a "fuck you" if an enemy player kills you. I didn't know you could actually survive to see the result.
>Quick Change scrolls are basically an extra life
This should be the second tutorial message you see in the Tower of London. Are they automatic? Like every time you die you just respawn instantly with full health and shit, as long as you have one of those scrolls prepared? That's fucking amazing.
>Other than that the only advice I can offer you is to practice.
Amen, anon. I'm certainly trying. I'll give it a short break and then put the shoulder back to the grindstone.
>>13858039
That makes sense, I suppose.
345ed7 No.13858060
Also, god damn that level was good, rooms flipping upside down, looking for walls that could rotate, dodging shit left and right
568ad5 No.13858061
>>13858046
You have to use the scroll and have the buff up. The buff lasts about 3-5 minutes per scroll, so it's pretty much always up if you have more than one scroll.
FYI, the Iga ninja 2 piece set bonus "restores ninjutsu items after living weapon ends" will always restore at least one quick change scroll because it's rounded up
898811 No.13858072
>>13858046
The quick change scrolls you activate and they last for maybe 5 minutes (I haven't tested it but they'll last you a while, enough that you don't need to be stingy with them). They'll revive you at max critical health (just low enough that it turns red). The caveat is that sometimes the enemy will attack as you respawn in mid air and fuck you. You can also do a falling attack as you respawn. The touch-me-not scrolls last a little bit longer and you get more, the good thing is that they'll stun certain enemies and stop them from attacking you as you respawn.
898811 No.13858086
>>13858072
>>13858046
All buffs disappear as you die and are revived, I should add.
e69a2b No.13858091
>>13858072
>>13858061
So what you're saying is that I need to grind up 7 ninjutsu points because that shit is fucking amazing.
I really didn't want to leave this ice level until I killed the ice queen because this level was so boring, but this is a really shitty place to farm amrita. I might just hop over to spider castle and do a few hours of grinding.
568ad5 No.13858096
>>13858091
Don't grind for hours. If you really want the ninjutsu shit now just buy a book of reincarnation from the blacksmith and move your points around.
Also make sure you use any locks of hair you might have in your inventory.
d47db4 No.13858102
>>13858091
>>13858096
And if you want ez mode you should really go for sloth talismans. They pretty much wreck everyone's shit in NG.
c75d7c No.13858135
>>13858091
Yeah, this is Demon's Souls, only instead of second chance and cursed weapon, it's quickchange and sloth talisman.
568ad5 No.13858165
>get summoned to samurai from Sawayama
>Summoner dies to the boulder on the spiral stairs
>Get summoned back
>Same guy
>Rush up the stairs to trigger it so he doesn't get killed
>Follows me just a few seconds too soon, gets crushed again
fa20d9 No.13858201
>>13858046
Quick change also respawns you in the air over the place where you died and sets you up for a plunge attack.
I'd like to add there's also a spirit that functions like quick change as long as you have a full gauge. There's also a late game armor that has a set bonus that makes all spirits act that way.
A couple of caveats you have to consider
1. Neither scrolls nor Suzaku will protect you from dying from burning or poison recurrent damage. There is an armor passive that prevents you from reaching zero health from recurrent damage that will solve this problem.
2. This one is quick change specific. There are a few specific situations where quick change scrolls will fuck you over because of the mid air respawning. Most of the time this will be wheelmonks.
Never ever drop on a wheelmonk for any reason.
568ad5 No.13858262
>>13858201
The armor is MUCH more reliable than Suzaku for the reason that one of the bonuses is "prevents amrita gauge reduction". In later difficulties enemies have the ability to reduce your gauge when they hit you, and if it's not full you can't use it as a second life.
918aa6 No.13858265
>>13858201
>Enemy with a specific side you are supposed to attack
>Hits it from above
>When the damaging wheel is on top
He got what he deserved.
fa20d9 No.13858310
>>13847748
William is fighting more on the side of harmony and balance than for any real human faction. He's fighting on Tenkai's and Hanzo's side more than on Ieyasu's.
>>13857327
I knew I had a video of this.
568ad5 No.13858315
I think I might have figured out the solution to the crashing issue. I haven't actually tested if it works on Hundred Eyes, but I haven't had a single crash anywhere else since I tried this:
Clear out your temporary windows cache.
Not the internet cache, but the windows one. Seems there's some kind of garbage collection issue and whatever bad data ends up in the cache and stays there.
e69a2b No.13858338
>>13858310
A. That is both really funny, and really infuriating because that's the kind of shit I'm in the middle of right now.
B. I need to start recording my shit, because I can actually see her tells now thanks to this video. Her weapon actually changes form. I never noticed that in all of my 20+ runs.
fa20d9 No.13858372
>>13858338
I feel for you. She's easily one of the toughest bosses in the game. I took me 30+ tries to beat her. Then again for some ungodly reason I decided to fight her with mega horoku dama.
e69a2b No.13858407
>>13858372
>She's easily one of the toughest bosses in the game. I took me 30+ tries to beat her.
I'll be topping that for sure. She has a personal grudge against me for some reason. She just finished me off with her lunge-stab when I'd almost taken her down, and I swear to fuck she didn't make a peep. No warcry, nothing, just silence into murder flash-step.
d47db4 No.13858410
>>13858372
I actually ended up beating her the one time I decided to try out a mega horoku-dama. By some miracle she decided to do nothing while I slowly lobbed that shit at her. It didn't do that much but I laughed my ass off.
c72550 No.13858429
>>13858310
Tenkai being for harmony I can get, but it doesn't get more slut for Ieyasu's penis than Hanzo. And for all the fairness Nioh displays for the different factions, it does conveniently obfuscate the fact peace was already achieved under the Toyotomi - if Ieyasu actually wanted peace, all he had to do was fucking nothing. His actual motivations was a peaceful Japan under his rule and not the Toyotomi.
fa20d9 No.13858465
>>13858410
If you can chuck it right inside her hitbox at the right moment it does massive damage. Actually that's true of just about everyone.
I've wanted for awhile to try out an explosive only build but I'm a little burnt out at the moment after 600 something hours.
>>13858429
Well in William's defense he doesn't hold Ieyasu in high regard as a person and he certainly doesn't follow his orders like a loyal retainer. I don't know what the fuck Hanzo's problem is.
c72550 No.13858508
>>13858465
I certainly don't resent William for being on Ieyasu's side, mostly because he really isn't. He's just following the amrita and those who would abuse it. They just happen to be placed alongside the factions opposing the Tokugawa.
I just think the game should have addressed how this all started with Ieyasu making a coup against the Toyotomi, beyond Mitsunari's spirit flashback which is vague about it.
06fe0c No.13858551
>kill the 'nuthin personnel kid' teleport-behind-you edgemaster
>game crashes
26b335 No.13858678
passing through 70% of a level with just a gun and bow is really fucking fun
26b335 No.13858682
>>13858551
>'nuthin personnel kid' teleport-behind-you edgemaster
what one, there are quite a few
568ad5 No.13858711
>>13858682
The one who actually says it's nothing personal, or more specifically "I don't hate you but you have to die" or something like that
c72550 No.13858725
>>13858711
Ah, Magoichi. First time I've heard about a crash after him considering there's only a cutscene.
568ad5 No.13858771
>>13858725
He's probably just getting random crashes.
>>13858551
Try clearing your windows temporary files, it seems to have fixed all the crashing for me
df250c No.13858830
>>13855902
>>13855873
>>13855928
>not figuring out how to farm glory until you're almost at the DLC and waiting even longer to get not Lady Maria from Bloodborne
568ad5 No.13858852
>>13858830
Just so you know, the further you are in the game the more glory you earn from coop, regardless of the level of the coop missions you do.
When you've finished WotN you can get 5-10k glory from NG level missions, just to reward you for your valuable time
e69a2b No.13858977
>taking a break from Ice Bitch the Destroyer of Hope to level up a bit and maybe upgrade some gear
>dude with painted on moustache wants me to grab him a stick from a graveyard
>sounds easy enough
>spawn in
>starting shrine area is littered with revenant swords
What the fuck mission did I just enter? I was doing this to unwind a bit, and now I'm starting to feel regret. Admittedly I only realized that I had to manually log in recently so maybe this is normal for online revenant density, but 10 revenants within 10 meters of the starting shrine feels crazy to me.
At least there's no Boku no Biwa around.
c72550 No.13859051
>>13858977
You probably chose an arena mission, these are short but intense, it's waves of enemies basically,so if anyone dies at any point they'll fatally be in the same place.
I feel you on some side missions not being that relaxing though. Try to get some reforging done on your favorite iitems, get some really good attributes.
568ad5 No.13859068
>>13856622
>>13856672
Finished putting it together. The good news is that it's relatively easy to make, though I think Sukunahikona might possibly be one of the rarest graces. The bad news is it kind of sucks, at least for WotN. I might use this set just to show off in Way of the Samurai coop, because the 30k hits at that difficulty make it look hilarious. in Way of the Nioh though it only does about 3k. You CAN kill things with it, but it takes more than a few stones.
568ad5 No.13859082
>>13859051
He said it was a graveyard, I don't think there are any graveyard arena missions, at least not before endgame. The standard graveyard map is just a small map so the Revenants tend to collect in one area.
Basically the way revenant spawns work is that you download up to a maximum number from the server. That max number is the same regardless of how big the mission is, so smaller maps naturally have denser spawns. There are always enough people dying.
c72550 No.13859092
>>13858977
>>13859082
Hold on, is it "the disappearing ranjatai" ? Just checked it, right after the shrine there's a cloud Ryoki with three zombies lying in ambush. The revenants are just retards who can't listen to audio cues.
e69a2b No.13859105
>>13859092
>>13859082
Yeah, that was the mission. I was amazed that they all died to that one yoki. I crept up to the gate and looked around and saw both ambush zombies, and then I just cleared the graveyard and everything from the back and fought the clouded demon solo. I laughed when it was just a fucking yoki. I was expecting at least a flying bolt and a retinue of floating heads like the last graveyard map.
There was one of those Biwa playing demons on the map, too, with three revenants in front of him. He was clouded, but I could still hear his banjo. I was able to creep in and summon the revenants one by one and fight them away from his little arena. In the end he only had a single floating head to defend him.
Now THIS, on the other hand, is the arena mission you were talking about, I think.
c72550 No.13859114
>>13859105
Yeah I bet that's the one with Benkei. Well, they don't directly mention his name, but it's pretty obvious who he is - a famous warrior monk from the heian period. He's an extremely tanky dude with an axe and some spawns thrown in, I did it yesterday on NG+ and it had a tengu, I bet it's way tamer on NG. He's definitely dangerous, but not too bad if you bait his attacks to deplete his ki, he's slow as shit.
e69a2b No.13859126
>>13859114
He's human? I shouldn't have a problem, then. I use the roundhouse+followup combo with my 2kat against humans and it just destroys their ki to the point that I can chain grapples and finishers. I expected the tonfas to be the big ki-depleters, but these 2kat are doing work.
For now I think I'm just going to fight revenants and then branch out a couple of times. Just fought one dude that gave me 90k amrita for killing him, and I've never seen such an amount from a revenant before - usually I get about 20k for 10 combined.
e69a2b No.13859154
>>13859114
Yeah, he looked scary but he was just a human. I tested out the sloth talisman on him and then kicked him into the river.
c72550 No.13859175
>>13859154
Lel, poor Benkei.
Anyway, now that you've tested the sloth talisman you should take on Yuki-onna again. Maybe throw in some weakness talisman and lightning weapon. Or take her out fairly, who knows.
e69a2b No.13859209
>>13859175
Yup, that's the plan. Currently re-clearing the ice level and thinking murderous thoughts.
e69a2b No.13859223
>read in the demon gallery that the door monsters get off on frustrating people
>for shits and giggles do the "disappointed" gesture in front of one
>it fucking does the japanese "sorry" gesture and vanishes
>it even leaves me some loot
Are you fucking kidding me with this shit right now. What other monsters can be fucked with like this?
918aa6 No.13859322
>Hail of flaming death at the sound of a gong
>Get two cannonballs
>Get to cannon, use it
>It stops the arrows
>Figure it's best to rush to the next cannon and pick shit up later because of this
>Stop second set of archers
>Go back
>You can't go back
>Restart level just to get missing kodama
>Go through the first two cannons
>Get to third set of archers
>They're using a cannon now, so cover that isn't trenches is useless
>Can't tell for shit where the next trench is without playing chicken with death from above
>Make it to third cannon
>You have no cannonballs
>No idea where to get more
>Can't see any other safe trench paths except the way I came
Do I have to start over again and save one of my cannonballs for the third cannon? Is there going to be a fourth I have to save for?
e69a2b No.13859326
First try.
I used all of the tricks recommended - sloth talismans, quick change and touch-me-not - and I just barely scraped through. I even got a plunging attack on her after she got blown up by the touch-me-not.
I can feel the wings of freedom again.
26b335 No.13859347
>>13859322
I had no idea you got cannon balls at the start and suicide ran all the kodamas
shit was hectic but I did it
918aa6 No.13859387
>>13859347
Guy weakly standing in the first trench gives you two.
07795c No.13859708
>>13858046
You drop out of thesku withabout a quarter of your life and can plunge attack as you fall. Enemies with upwards arching attacks can kill you as you fall though so it isn't a guaranteed survival.
07795c No.13859712
>>13859708
>out of the sky
e8fafa No.13859765
>>13859223
The Nurikabe will open to 1 of the 3 different behaviors that gestures can be from. You just happened to make the right gesture catagory.
e69a2b No.13859768
>>13859765
It's the category, not the gesture itself? Do you mean like Red/Yellow/Blue basically?
d05f7f No.13859844
>Visiting for that sweet sweet umbracite
>Finally get to the boss door
>Scrub touches door and I'll be ported in briefly
>The tard is dead before I even finish loading
How the fuck does this keep happening? It's not like I spent a minute loading the map; that shit is done in a single-digit number of seconds. How the hell can somebody die so quickly?
918aa6 No.13859867
>>13859844
9/10 times this happens it's some ultra faggot who hasn't even tried the boss solo a few times yet, so they don't know shit about its moveset and die immediately.
e8fafa No.13859877
>>13859768
>Do you mean like Red/Yellow/Blue basically?
Yeah, if the yokai wants a red gesture any red gesture will cause him to leave without conflict.
c72550 No.13859914
>>13859844
I did about five coop missions after restricting zones so I would avoid disconnections, and so far everyone was perfectly competent.
898811 No.13859990
YouTube embed. Click thumbnail to play.
>>13859326
(^:
7:37 for boss fight.
c7191d No.13860459
I got to the second boss and die in two shots to the spin attack he always does for defence. Don't deal much damage and he has a whackton of hitpoints. After trying a few times and having the same result where I hit once and he does the spin I don't grasp how I can defeat this faggot.
6bb4fe No.13860881
>>13858771
>He's probably just getting random crashes.
This is my first crash ever.
6bb4fe No.13860907
6bb4fe No.13861070
>>13860459
1) don't get hit
2) use a stronger weapon
3) level up attack
568ad5 No.13861091
>>13859105
Battle of the bridge is THE revenant farming mission. Kill everything you can reach without triggering the fight, and then jump off the bridge and do it again. This ESPECIALLY applies to Way of the Strong. It's one of the highest level missions immediately available in NG+ AND revanent drops cap at level 150 divine, so there's no reason to go any further.
Of course, because other people are doing the exact same thing, you find a lot of graves from people who either jumped off or fucked up and died to one of the ones they were trying to farm.
568ad5 No.13861113
>>13859768
Yep, you get 2 tries, if you get the second wrong he attacks. The only hint you could possibly have is a grave that says "killed by nurikabe for neutral gesture" or something.
The chest mimics (Mujina) are similar. You can whistle at the chest and they will jump out harmlessly, then they perform any of your nine "equipped" gestures. Mimic the same one and they leave the loot, get it wrong and they attack. You also get the "overjoyed" gesture from doing it right the first time.
568ad5 No.13861121
>>13860459
Block the balls when he spins. Once you've broken the chains dodge through the boss to dodge the spin.
568ad5 No.13861217
>>13859322
The third cannonball is right next to the ladder from the moat on the right side of the map, right in the middle of the hail of arrows from the third tower
c72550 No.13861334
Man, what a fight. Couldn't even bring myself to sloth or LW him.
>Two main missions and the second DLC is over
Hold on, what ? Dragon of the North's one-boss main mission was bullshit enough.
918aa6 No.13861452
>>13861334
Pissed me off too.
c72550 No.13861477
>>13861452
I imagine it was much worse if it was on PS4 and you paid for it.
918aa6 No.13861485
>>13861477
I'm a good goy :^(
c72550 No.13861548
>>13861485
Honestly I can't even fault you for that. Game's fucking good, if it had been released on PC day one I'd have bought the DLC too. I just wish devs/publishers understood this shit lives and dies on goodwill.
At least each DLC made welcome additions to the base game I guess.
568ad5 No.13862083
>>13855928
I just can't someone with a dildo on their head, sorry.
b82ff5 No.13862144
faggot keeps leaving pvp matches because i've got my boy aya-komori lw ready for the second match while he's using enko, the retard.
http://steamcommunity.com/id/Nial/
568ad5 No.13862198
Would anyone be interested in doing abyss runs? I've cleared to 41 and I'm mostly looking to farm up to that, though I could probably clear a bit further
Keep in mind, when you coop in the Abyss you fight 2 bosses instead of one. Generally it's still going to be easier than solo, but you get double the boss loot.
e69a2b No.13862253
Do they do variations on maps in this?
For example, is there a version of Mt. Hiei that's bright and sunny rather than dark and rainy?
Seems like it'd be a pretty easy way to stretch map variety, but I can't remember seeing any map reskins like that so far.
b404e6 No.13862288
>>13862253
There's at least a few. One of the Kuroshima sub missions takes place at dawn/sunset instead of in the dark like the main mission. Another that I can think of off the top of my head is the Withered Grass and Youkai battlefield that usually a sunny evening in most missions is dark and stormy when you fight Jin Hayabusa.
e69a2b No.13862307
Also, is there a guide or tutorial screen in the game somewhere that lists all of the buff/debuff icons and what they represent? I'm finding some of these hard to interpret.
For example, when I whack a yellow crystal, I get a status effect that's a little armor with a little lightning bolt on it. I can't tell if that means I'm resistant to lightning, or my armor has been reduced versus lightning, or my armor has been "shocked" and thus is weaker versus everything, or what.
>>13862288
So it's just a few set variations, then. That's alright, but I was kind of hoping they'd do some kind of randomizing eventually, just to spice up the visual variety.
918aa6 No.13862323
>>13862307
>Also, is there a guide or tutorial screen in the game somewhere that lists all of the buff/debuff icons and what they represent? I'm finding some of these hard to interpret.
Welcom to hell. Pay attention to the pointy side of each icon border to tell whether it's a buff or debuff.
b404e6 No.13862381
>>13862307
>That's alright, but I was kind of hoping they'd do some kind of randomizing eventually, just to spice up the visual variety.
I feel the same way. At least there some nice variation in some of the sub mission stages like the bathhouse, the mountain shrine, the fox shrine, and the snow shrine. I want to build that bathhouse in real life, it's the comfiest shit.
e69a2b No.13862615
>get Kuro-Garasu hat/mask from some revenant
>looks pretty edgy
>decide to refashion my helmet into that
>it's not on the list
How does this work? I thought I just had to pick things up to add them to the refashion list. Half of the Iga set isn't on the list either, even though I have multiple pieces of each.
c20ca6 No.13862918
>>13862615
Revenant drops don't count unfortunately. You either need to get the drop from a normal enemy or be able to forge it yourself to unlock it for refashion. Go play through the sub mission where you fight Onryoki and Harvey Birdman in the cave a few times and you'll get some regular drops of that armor.
7a55a6 No.13862976
I rushed to Way of the Wise today, should I wrap up all the mission with hair locks in WotD or go to WotW now? I'm thinking WotW so I can get more of a challenge.
568ad5 No.13862994
>>13862976
Keep going and the hair won't matter, at least not samurai hair. I have every samurai skill in the game and another 700 points into damage
e69a2b No.13863022
>Greater Demon Hunting
Fuck this piece of shit. What level do I need to be to not get one-shotted by this thing? His lightest attacks do 2800 damage to me, which is 1000 more than my max hp with 704 defense. I'm guessing I'll need another 1000 defense or so, so maybe come back in 30-50 levels and try again?
I saw some NPC with a hammer in that mission on one of my attempts that was fighting him, but I could never find him again after that. I always get clipped and die within the first 5 seconds of the fight.
>>13862918
That's kind of lame, but I also kind of see why they did that. I'm just glad it's not some glitch or something like that.
568ad5 No.13863226
Getting nothing but connection errors for like the last hour, really annoying it was working fine before that
568ad5 No.13863275
>>13863022
Don't get hit? That's the one against the same demon as the first level boss right, the onryoki? A lightning weapon really helps, and once he's slowed you can easilly just dodge through him
e69a2b No.13863299
>>13863275
Yeah, I'm getting a bit better at it.
He's twice the size and twice the speed of the two onryoki I've fought before, and they never gave me any problems.
This one is on another level.
568ad5 No.13863304
>>13863299
lightning, getting it on him to begin with might be a little tricky but once it's there you can dodge through easily
c20ca6 No.13863340
>>13863022
>I saw some NPC with a hammer in that mission on one of my attempts that was fighting him, but I could never find him again after that.
It's actually an axe and he's a huge bro. The whole trick of that mission is to just out run Onryoki for long enough foe Kintaro to show up. Then after that let him aggro and tank the oni while you chip away at him. You'll have to periodically revive Golden Boy so make sure to draw the big fucker far enough away first.
9b6bd0 No.13863355
>>13863340
Really? For me, the trick to that mission was to murder the fuck out of Onryoki and wonder who this asshole was that showed up as finished the fight and said we made a good team.
918aa6 No.13863363
>Been disassebling everything below 150 divine
>Inventory finally starts to fill up with 150 divines
>Want to play the game, not autistically check every piece of equipment for good inheritables
Should I just start dumping shit into storage for now? How to into inventory management? Shit like this is one of the reasons I don't play MMOs.
568ad5 No.13863373
>>13863363
When my inventory hits 400+ I quickly scroll through, put anything with a decent inheritable into storage and then disassemble or sell therest
c20ca6 No.13863379
>>13863363
>Should I just start dumping shit into storage for now?
A lot of it yes. You can access the storehouse from inside the blacksmith shop so you don't have to wander around with everything in you inventory. I Usually just carry around my special helmets and and three or four special armor sets that I have for different purposes.
594ef6 No.13863594
Nioh > Bloodborne > DaS3 > DaS > DaS2 >>> DeS.
This is a fact, anyone who disagrees is a low iq subhuman.
568ad5 No.13863638
>>13863594
I like Nioh, but it's too much gear/stats and not enough skill to rank higher than ANY of those
e69a2b No.13863646
>Hanzo's dad is a frog
This story is fucking weird and makes no sense. Japanese people shouldn't be allowed to have imaginations, as they're clearly not responsible with them.
>>13863594
Nioh's modern videogamey and DaS/DeS are classic videogamey. I never played bloodborne, but I understand the entire game pretty much plays at the speed of Blackflame Friede's boss fight, which sounds pretty fun.
I'd say they're all roughly equivalent with variation accounting for taste, with the exception of DaS2 which honestly just has a lot of quality control issues.
But you didn't want a real answer, you just wanted a (you), you cheeky cunt.
ca3d64 No.13863706
>>13863646
Hanzo's dad is a frog because his father literally came back as a yokai. His father was a harsh trainer and always telling Hanzo what to do.
594ef6 No.13863730
>>13863646
>>13863638
Gameplay is the most important factor and based on gameplay, that ranking is the only objective one.
Nioh has the best core gameplay and combat. You are not forced to grind, exploit and use the best "stats" on weapons and gear, just like with Souls games, you can dictate your own desired difficulty level to a certain degree.
Bloodborne and Dark Souls 3 have great combat and gameplay, but not as good as Nioh. Bloodborne has better combat than Dark Souls 3, but lacks the variety of combat styles (ranged/melee/magic/utility builds) that Dark Souls 3 offers.e
Dark Souls gameplay and combat is mediocre, what made that game special was the amazing interconnected world design, which turned out to be nothing more than a product of luck, since From Software has never been able to reproduce it with their other games.
Dark Souls 2 is a butchered game, but still offers more than Demon's Souls.
Demon's Souls is overrated garbage by nostalgia high morons.
>>13863646
Bloodborne is very fun, but the experience is held back by 25-30fps and long loading times, even post patch the loading times are annoying compared to the 3 sec loading times of DaS3 on an SSD on the PC.
DaS2 is better than DeS. DeS has nothing to offer, it does nothing better than all the other games that came after it. Combat, Graphics, Soundtrack, Atmosphere, Quality of content, Quantity of content, online-play experience… nothing, it excels at nothing.
e69a2b No.13863747
>>13863706
I sort of get that, but the line seems really blurry and I don't really understand how it's supposed to work.
People come back as yokai or get turned into yokai by getting possessed, or getting really really angry, and so on. Suddenly they're a certain kind of demon species identical to all of the others and they have no intellect - except sometimes they do have intellect just because - except they still have to fight like wild animals until they're punched in the dick really hard and then they can talk for a few seconds before they evaporate.
It seems like Japanese folklore is constructed out of plot holes, but maybe it's just me.
>>13863730
>Gameplay is the most important factor
Yeah, that's pretty true. It depends what kind of gameplay you prefer, though. If you like loot'em'ups, then Nioh is going to be your jam. If you like classic bootstrap gameplay, then DeS is where you want to be at. The DaS games fall in the middle, where they're more hectic and less deliberate than DeS, but they're also not lootfarm spreadsheet stat simulators like Nioh.
>Bloodborne is very fun, but
If it's ever out on PC, or when PS4 emulation comes around, I'll be interested to see if these problems can be solved.
918aa6 No.13863847
>>13863730
>DeS does atmosphere, soundtrack, quality of content (nice vague descriptor amidst a bunch of specific ones), and combat worse than DaS II
Wew lad.
594ef6 No.13863914
>>13863847
You misunderstood, it does those things worse than DaS, DaS3, Bloodborne. If you want those things, why play DeS?
If you want quantity of content, then Dark Souls 2 has alot of content.
DeS offers nothing, it excels at absolutely nothing.
e69a2b No.13863959
>>13863914
DeS is by far the most somber and the most slow-paced. It's also the most obtuse and the least friendly in terms of checkpoints. It also has the simplest combat system combined with some very complex crafting systems.
It's not my favorite, but for some people it's pure heaven that has never been replicated, and I can see where they're coming from.
568ad5 No.13863967
>>13863914
>>13863959
DeS has (had) better online than DaS. Because of the level design DaS coop is (was) almost exclusively done at the boss or shortly before the boss. DeS was much better suited to cooping through the level. DeS PVP was also better suited to playing around the level.
DeS also had better bosses than DaS, including one of if not the best in the series, False King Allant. Most of DeS bosses are far more fun to fight, and they also have several that are far more unique both in concept and mechanically, for instance the storm king and the old hero.
d55a5a No.13863991
>>13863967
DeS is also the only Souls game where the lore isn't retarded and self-contradictory and actually tries to explain gameplay mechanics.
DeS: Despite being bereft of reason, enemies try to attack you and not each other because you have souls and they hunger for souls.
DaS: Despite being bereft of reason, enemies try to attack you and not each other because ???
DeS: You carry a small glowing crystal at your belt to provide light. That's why there's an area that's brighter around the player.
DaS: You glow because ???
DeS: Fog gates are an effect of the colorless fog created by the demon.
DaS: Fog gates are ???
594ef6 No.13864005
>>13863967
>DeS also had better bosses than DaS
This is what mentally ill nostalgia high DeS retards actually believe XD.
594ef6 No.13864011
>>13863991
>DeS: Despite being bereft of reason, enemies try to attack you and not each other because you have souls and they hunger for souls.
Why do they attack you if you have 0 souls? LOOOOOOL. Fuck off low IQ nostalgia high son of a whore, DeS is dogshit.
>Despite being bereft of reason, enemies try to attack you and not each other because ???
They attack non-hollows. Chosen Undead never goes hollow during the game. Did you even play DaS?
cab1ee No.13864034
>>13863594
Bloodborne is nowhere near finished and was basically early access before the DLC. And as much as I love Nioh, a lot of its appeal lies in singleplayer MMORPG mechanics, which is amateur design compared to any of the souls games, meaning it basically can't compete in the same category.
I agree with your assessment of the dark souls though.
594ef6 No.13864052
>>13864034
Yes, the sad truth is that non of these games reached the potential they had, both Sony and Bandai Namco are cancerous companies/publishers that ruined the potential of these games.
Now that From Software is free from both Bandai Namco and Sony, we might be pleasently surprised by their new IP dark fantasy action role-playing game, especially because they haven't announced anything for a decent period of time, hopefully they won't announce this game for at least 2-3 more years, so they have more than enough time to deliver a finished dark fantasy arpg game.
The Armored Core reboot is probably coming next year.
665a50 No.13864065
>>13864011
>Why do they attack you if you have 0 souls?
Fuck, what was the term from DeS? Wandering Soul? Vessel-free soul? I don't remember specifically, The point is that the souls you hold aren't actually your soul or a part of you, they're things that just sort of stuck to you. Even without them, you are still ensouled and are not bereft of reason.
>They attack non-hollows.
Blatant lies, unless you're suggesting creatures like crystal golems, hydras, drakes, and snakemen are somehow hollow, despite not being human or undead. They also won't attack non-hollow NPCs. They can damage NPCs regardless if they're hollowed or not, but never choose to attack anyone other than the player, and the NPCs never defend themselves from hollows. In fact, the behavior of enemies does not change regardless of if it's the hollow or human version of any NPC.
Neither of these are true in DeS! Once you free Ostrava he'll wander around exploring instead of sitting in his cell and fight enemies with you. Yet another atmospheric thing that was removed from DaS for no good reason.
>Chosen Undead never goes hollow during the game.
Right, so what about in 2 and 3 where things like soul appease and hollowslayer exist, deal damage to the player character when they're not human, and have in their descriptions "Only works/extra damage on hollows" that deal extra damage to non-human players? Why do NPCs like Lautrec remark on how hollowed you are when you're made of beef jerky? Why does the bonfire tell you "Cannot kindle while hollow" if you try to kindle it while looking like beef jerky? Are you saying that state is not 'hollow,' despite being referred to as such by everything in the game?
c1df3b No.13864084
Just got a few cool as fuck dual sword sets. The prettier set has worse stats than the other one and it doesn't have innate lightning damage like my current set does. I am a bit annoyed tbh.
Anyway are the mystic arts worth it? I got the access to the dual swords, kusarigama and single sword mystic arts. The single sword mystic arts don't seem to be that good but the other two do. Super expensive though.
665a50 No.13864090
>>13864084
I'm running the kusa weight mystic art because the weight-based attacks are the only things I use consistently. Doing twice ki damage on my high stance poke is really nice.
594ef6 No.13864115
>>13864065
>The point is that the souls you hold aren't actually your soul or a part of you, they're things that just sort of stuck to you.
Source: Your ass.
>Blatant lies, unless you're suggesting creatures like crystal golems, hydras, drakes, and snakemen are somehow hollow, despite not being human or undead.
No, it is the truth. Those other creatures attack you because you are in their territory and they are hostile to intruders.
>Once you free Ostrava he'll wander around exploring instead of sitting in his cell and fight enemies with you. Yet another atmospheric thing that was removed from DaS for no good reason.
Lmao, "exploring", he keeps walking the same path and back, like a retard, I've followed him, it is scripted, there is nothing atmospheric about it, it ruins the atmosphere, because it ruins the immersion and reminds you that you are playing a game, when you see him walk back and forward across the same path.
NPC's were handled much better in Dark Souls.
>Right, so what about in 2 and 3 where things like soul appease and hollowslayer exist
Dark Souls 2 and 3 "lore" are non-canon. Dark Souls 2 introduced to many plotholes and if a sequel has even 1 plothole, then it is automatically non-canon.
Dark Souls lore and story ended with Dark Souls.
c1df3b No.13864118
>>13864090
That's what I was thinking. Considering the high attacks are the only ones that don't deflect the regular high light combo might turn into a guard breaker.
e69a2b No.13864145
Giant Frog was a pretty damn fun fight, and the level leading up to him was also pretty dope. It was like a crazy funhouse.
c67b17 No.13864169
I find interesting the moment I start seeing revenants with divine gear most of them went from red demons to kingo's armor, I also finally got a good divine odachi, feels good.
a786fe No.13864180
>>13864115
I like how you ignored both the fact that hollows don't actually attack non-hollow NPCs and the fact that the game constantly refers to beef jerky players as hollowed because those two facts completely destroy every claim you made.
You have no interest in honest discussion so I'm done replying to you.
>>13864145
>try out co-op for the first time
>get summoned to that area
>get to that giant frog
>summoner immediately dies to the frog's first attack
>>13864118
You are correct. It demolishes guards.
568ad5 No.13864198
>>13864180
Kusarigama is shit against guards, it's ki damage is pathetic because it's break value is pathetic.
If you are really dead set on getting through guards with a gama though get the Parry Disabled weapon effect and use low stance. You can spam low quick attacks and EVENTUALLY chip through that ki bar, all while keeping them locked into parry stance forever.
c20ca6 No.13864208
>>13864145
Tengu visor is the patrician's choice.
594ef6 No.13864216
>>13864180
They say "you are practically/almost hollow", you never go full hollow that you lose your sanity as the chosen undead in Dark Souls. The only dishonest one here is you.
Give me an example of hollows not attacking non-hollow NPCs, there is always a context in Dark Souls.
594ef6 No.13864237
>>13864231
That is not true hollowed.
a77b44 No.13864296
>>13864237
Source: Your ass. ;^)
594ef6 No.13864385
>>13864296
Gameplay mechanics and lore concepts are not always connected. The "hollow state" as a game mechanic has little to do with the lore concept of "hollow" a.k.a true hollow, which is explained as beings that lost their sanity and have no free will/self-consciousness.
You probably have a low IQ.
918aa6 No.13864448
>>13864237
>It's not real communism!
a77b44 No.13864496
>>13864385
>Gameplay mechanics and lore concepts are not always connected.
I wonder if you even realized you just agreed with me? You probably forgot, but the thing I originally said was
>>13863991
>DeS is also the only Souls game where the lore […] actually tries to explain gameplay mechanics.
Thank you for being so easy to manipulate into literally posting about how I am completely right in your effort to prove me wrong. You fucking subhuman retard.
a77b44 No.13864533
Gettin' real tired of this screen, game.
568ad5 No.13864563
>>13864533
Make sure your matching area is limited, you get a lot more connection failures when you try to connect to someone halfway around the world.
594ef6 No.13864660
>>13864496
No, that is wrong. You said DeS is the only game that does that, which isn't true, Dark Souls does it too, so does Bloodborne, but as I said "gameplay mechanics and lore concepts are not ALWAYS connected".
So no, you are not completely right at all. How could you come to that conclusion? I think my comment about you having a low IQ was probably accurate, that explains why your comment is so irrational and emotional. You should learn to control yourself and not lash out just because you got confronted with the truth about yourself (having a low IQ).
1e1110 No.13864815
>>13859844
>doing random encounters to try to farm umbracite
>constantly getting summoned to the water level
>the host almost always dies to the boss by falling in the water or getting hit by the laser beam
e388da No.13865135
Is there a teleport into nothing personnel I can do?
e69a2b No.13865161
>>13865135
Spear and Sword have moves that basically teleport you behind your enemy's back. Others might as well.
e69a2b No.13865213
Plant slug lady was the weakest boss so far. She didn't even kill me a single time.
df250c No.13865601
>have yasakani magatama
>try mixing and matching iga ninja with crossed sickles
>already using aya komori so this looks promising
>negligible if any increase in overall damage output on top of lower agility rating compared to a full iga ninja set
>go back to using fill iga ninja set
Mixing and matching is a lie.
b82ff5 No.13865693
>>13865601
Not really, I'm using the red demon set for that sweet ki recovery, with the crossed sickles chest piece that gives me double the base damage reduction than the regular red demon chest piece, extra toughness as well. Plus the set bonus damage reduction, killing strike is a nice bonus. Throw in a kaido axe for another damage reduction and awesome rumbling earth damage, ravenwing rifle for more damage reduction.
I'm practically wearing a whole other piece of armor from the damage reduction bonuses.
I'd use the iga set but it's 7 fucking pieces, and I don't even use ninjitsu that much.
d47db4 No.13865710
Is there a site where I can see all set bonuses? Most lists seem to be incomplete as fuck.
df250c No.13865748
>>13865693
I went full ninja so nothing really outweighs the benefits I get from iga ninja as far as I can tell. Yasakani is just letting me have dual swords on instead of the Onimada katana and still get the AA ninjutsu scaling, so in that way I guess I am sort of mixing and matching. Plus ninjutsu scales with skill as well as dex so dual swords seem like the better investment than katana/heart. My ninjutsu items are almost making my kusarigama redundant. Kunai are putting out anywhere between 3500-5000 damage at lvl 180. I did the Dragon of The North bosses at lvl 147 and could take out the bosses almost entirely with kunai. I try not to use them all the time because I like dodging and weaving more than just standing there throwing shit. But sometimes kunai can just break guard better than the kusarigama can.
a69204 No.13866061
>>13864084
The sword mystic arts are pretty great. First one reduces dodge stamina and increases timely guard window while the second one increases damage done from behind.
The first one is good on its own but the second one increases your DPS by a lot as both parry counters do back damage and with the skill that places you behind enemies you can do even more damage.
e69a2b No.13866290
So Smithing Texts have a drop rate of about 0%, huh? Cool, cool.
568ad5 No.13866741
>>13865693
>>13865748
I'm using 5 piece Grace of Susano, which gives me 13.7% CCD, 17.6% strong attack, and the base 3.2% damage reduction
4 piece Kigetsu AKA Seven Misfortunes, Eight Hardships, which grants 13.7% CCD, A+ Damage (status ailment suffered), 22.2% damage reduction (status ailment suffered), reduced status ailment duration, and 3.2% damage reductions
3 Piece Tatenashi AKA The God of War looks down, which gives me 3.2% damage reduction, 25.5% firearm damage reduction, and A rank equipment weight damage bonus (about 16% damage bonus multiplicative with CCD)
Overall, that's roughly a 108% increase in damage from set bonuses alone, provided I suffer from 2 status effects (which I use the "tradeoff" buffs to accomplish)
e69a2b No.13867204
>Sekigahara
>holy god damn what the shit is going on jesus fuck run run run
>finally limp into Sakon Shima's royal rumble with 3 elixers remaining
>buff up and go ham
>get completely fucked up almost right away
>no elixers remaining
>start seeing the pattern and playing the bait and wait game
>still shit so get hit and Suzaku auto-activates
>NowYouFuckedUp.midi
>get booty-blasted out of LW just before I can finish off Shiba
>one planck unit of health left on the bar
>panic and pop my quick change buff right as he launches a spear lunge at my throat
>buff activates at the same instant i get hit
>appear in the air above Shibe
>drop on Shin-chan like the fucking batman
>MISSION COMPLETED
I need a drink.
568ad5 No.13867462
>>13867204
I've finished bosses with desperation drop attacks more time than I can count
e69a2b No.13867515
>>13867462
I never should have doubted all of the anons who kept telling me to invest in some ninjutsu. It's clutch in a can.
568ad5 No.13867738
>>13867515
It can be a crutch too. Enemies in Way of the Wise/Nioh have a chance to delete your buffs when they hit you. That means you can have Quick Change ready, get hit, lose quick change and just die.
e69a2b No.13868357
>Giant Skelletor
>break foot
>he gets knocked down at an awkward angle
>none of his vital points are anywhere near any ledges
>have to just sit there staring at him until he stands back up
>break other foot
>same thing can't reach any of his vital points from anywhere
>try baiting his attacks from various ledges
>his hands and arms just clip through the rocks everywhere and are almost impossible to hit
>zero arrows, bullets or cannon rounds
Okay, what the fuck am I supposed to do with this? I can survive indefinitely in here because he's a big slow idiot, but there seems to be no way to actually hit him.
e69a2b No.13868413
Nevermind, I found the right ledge. He died before he could pick his head back up.
Not a very well executed giant boss, as usual in these games.
568ad5 No.13868547
>>13868357
His head always falls down in the same spot, up on the very top platform. There's exactly one way to climb up there so you probably went to the second platform and not all the way.
e69a2b No.13868636
>>13868547
That's exactly what I did wrong, yeah.
918aa6 No.13868797
>>13865601
What the fuck is this amrita shit that keeps spawning amrita fiends and how the fuck do I kill it?
918aa6 No.13868857
>It spawns the four arm fuckers too
Will it run out of juice if I just keep killing shit?
>>13868797
Did not mean to reply