/v/ - Video Games

You're 27 years late to this console war. Fuck off.

>>13843352

>1991 was 40 years ago

>>13843346

>which games shipped on a medium with really expensive and limited storage capacities.

The system DID start off as a CD/card system. It was probably too late in production to change it once the sony deal fell through.

>>13843346

>But hey at least the system sounds like a tin can. Truly the quality of CD audio

tbh I preferred the SNES' bassy tin can sounds to the Genesis' trebley electric sounds, most Genesis games sound like pure noise

>>13843368

>western issue

elaborate

>>13843368

>>13843362

In all fairness this was back in 1991 and CDs were still pretty new let alone CDs for games. I can image they would've been plagued with issues had it fell through. Maybe some things happen for a reason

>>13843387

A tool is only as bad as the people who use it

>add tbh to filter

>90% of zero effort posts disappear

>>13843512

>he thinks shitty compressed audio encoded at high pitch sounds better than uncompressed FM Synth

>>13843403

Get Mark to run /a/'s bot on /v/.

>>13843355

You say that, but

>Expansion packs

>Plastic dlc

>Buying cheat codes

>Sonic 3 split into 2 games

Sega was truly ahead of the times

>>13843363

>most Genesis games sound like pure noise

Most Snes games sound like pure noise drowned in a swimming pool.

>>13843368

>>13843387

>>13843427

>le western genesis games sound bad

Nigger, fuck off.

>>13843330

>Nintendoes what SEGA don't tbh

Make a shitty slow ass processor where half the library is riddled with slow down?

>All these fags fighting over what sounds best

>Not picking MOD Tracker Music

>>13843705

This

>>13843403

>Filter tbh, fam, famalam, lmao, lmoa, lol

>Thread suddently becomes non cancerous

Every time

SNES was more versatile

Castlevania 4 sounds exactly the way a Castlevania game should sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKVmvVRXXCM

Bloodlines sounds like a Megadrive game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dSn1f-Xz8go

Why not both?

>>13843798

Different sounds for different games. Every Megadrive game sounds like a Megadrive game.

WOW THIS IS SOOOOO COOOL

REALLY BLOWS MY MIND.

What's the final result of this sound chip?

doot doot doot blip blip blip

Oh wow how cool nintendo forever sega btfo.

Go back to playing skyrim on a handheld you childish faggot.

My dad works at nintendo

blast processing

>>13843330

And the genesis could support fully featured Amiga tracker music.

>he likes rompler trash over fm synths

die nigger

>>13843949

fucking flags

Sega had a better sound set up

>>13843940

It took an insane level of programming skill to do that. It was a system of swapping data into and out of memory rapidly, so that the system could play multiple samples simultaneously, by rapidly switching between them. It added a bit of noise to the sound, but was still pretty damn good. Embed related.

also sega did rompler shit better too

>>13843705

>>Plastic dlcI'm pretty sure I've heard about a game that had a cheacode that was basically impossible to manually enter unless you bought their specific controller which had a button that idid it for you.

Not to mention a lot of games baiting you into getting a turbo controller.

>>13843738

>>Not picking MOD Tracker Music

Even amateurs back in the early 90's did some pretty good shit with that.

>>13844059

A lot of distinct names in vidya music got their start with trackers, some deep in the demoscene. Huelsbeck, Brandon and Kaufmann come to mind. All of them still manage to keep some of that Euro sound and focus on melody over all else in what they do. Others didn't really make it too far past the good ol' days, like the Follin brothers.

I still wonder how they got Huelsbeck in on the new Bubsy game.

>>13844115

It's not about the tech, it's about how the composers take advantage of that tech. Honestly, the player would rather hear something clear than something muddled like the SNES. Though, there are some exceptions like Plok's OST, and that's because some of the instruments were just modified or (non-modified) versions of PSG sounds. Having a good sound driver is key to having good video game music, not necessarily samples.

>>13844128 (me)

See what I mean.

>>13844068

Megadrive is like one guy with a guitar. Maybe he's really good with that guitar, but not all music calls for a guitar. What do you do when the game calls for a track like this?

>>13844115

>shitty FM synth in every single game

>reverb heavy muffled midi in every SNES is better

Wrong

>consoles having an iconic sound

>terrible

I know, I hate the same sounding staccato bass and muffled samples in SNES games.

>pedo cartoons

>that spacing

Oh you're baiting, my mistake.

>When all your games sound the same it's not iconic; it's bland.

Yeah, like I said, I hate the same-y hollow sound of SNES games too.

>>13844144

>time has not been kind to the bland Genesis FM synth

>been more kind to more sample based systems

>time has been more kind to samples being played in an aquarium instead of clear FM Synth

>The point is every Genesis game ends up sounding very much the same.

No matter how much you parrot this meme, it doesn't make it true.

>When I hear FM synth music I think "late 80s / early 90s arcade" or "Genesis".

And this meme doesn't hold true either. You really sound like die hard Nintencuck,

>>13844165

>What do you do when the game calls for a track like this?

Use synth that doesn't like samples played in a wind tunnel.

>>13844144

Do you even realize that FM is still used today, especially one of its features, LFO? That thing is used a shit ton in dubstep.

>>13844110

>I still wonder how they got Huelsbeck in on the new Bubsy game.

The game was made by the same studio who did that recent Giana Sisters, and Huelsbeck works there as far as i know.

>>13844173

That's a completely different piece of music with a different vibe.

>>13844186

>>13844190

So from gentle and atmospheric, to something that sounds like the soundtrack to Terminator.

>>13844194

>>13844190

>>13844199

So these aren't filtered through actual Genises hardware?

>>13844199

That's better, but it still doesn't produce quite the same vibe. The main melody sounds off.

The fact that you have to resort to remixes made decades after the fact by people who know the hardware inside and out, instead of anything that was actually on the console, kind of hurts your point, don't you think?

>>13843725

The only downside to Sega's FM chip is that dubstep wasn't invented yet in the 90s.

>>13844201

There's nothing wrong with dubstep. Not everyone can enjoy harsh high pitch synths, then again not everyone can enjoy solo piano, blast beat drums or death metal growl vocals.

>>13844180

Hm. That makes sense, I guess.

Didn't like most of the newer Giana Sisters games too much, but the DS one was breddy gud. It has some of that shovelware/Flash game smell to the menus' presentation, but other than that, it was competent.

Not difficult enough for most tastes, though.

>>13844253

I expect you to post music that was on the console. People who've been tinkering with hardware for decades can do crazy shit with it. Big surprise.

>>13844253

>Watsuki scandal

What happened now?

>>13844286

>I expect you to post music that was on the console

>if you don't post music exactly how i want it in a way I didn't specify before, you're wrong

Here you little entitled nigger.

>>13844298

>PEDO 'TISM

>I'll unleash my inner goon that will prove I'm correct

Keep going.

>>13844296

Rurouni Kenshin creator got busted for actual CP possession.

>>13844318

>Rurouni Kenshin creator got busted for actual CP possession.

Oh, I thought it was something to do with goons.

>>13844298

First of all, what the hell is two-step. Second of all, just because you don't like it doesn't makes it bad. Just like rocket science, it has steep learning curve and some aspects of it you'll just find dumb if you're not on the level, however announcing that only goes to reveal your inadequate expertise on the subject.

>>13844318

That's the opposite of what I requested. Megadrive music from Megadrive games. Is this a hard thing to comprehend?

>>13844344

>inb4 hurr durr comparing music genre to rocket science

>>13844333

Yes, you keep showing off that you're goon, as evidenced by thinking animu reaction images pedo shit

>>13844330

There's also the fact this scandal will ignite arguments about sexual content in anime for the billionth time, and will possibly bring in an influx of shit posters like 9ec1ec who think anime = pedo shit

>>13844353

>shit posters like 9ec1ec who think anime = pedo shit

Just report the goons instead of constantly replying to them.

nintendrones are apparently goons too lmao

VGM is the dumping grounds for shitty composers that have a sequencer and a keyboard but no skill.

FM is great for bass, organs, woodwinds, brass, siney leads, bells and epianos.

While its good for FX, good luck getting drums that don't sound aliased and thin.

If you're making "urban" music FM is great, but I can't stand FM used in chip-tune style.

fucking bright/harsh FM leads, they are a disgrace and the sole reason people hate the 80s.

The only problem I have with snes sounds is the obvious looping on sustained notes.

Also, 99% of game music is quantized, it doesn't matter how realistic the timbre is if its not played by a human.

>>13843362

>The system DID start off as a CD/card system

You are absolutely retarded.

>>13843330

>unheard of for a game console in 1991

Famicom disk system had firmware, as did the master system and megadrive before the SNES.

>>13843368

>Nintendo's hardware design has always been sloppy.

The NES, SNES and N64 were far ahead of everything else at the time. As was the Gamecube but to a lesser extent.

>>13843890

Rubbish game. Nice animation though.

>>13844344

>First of all, what the hell is two-step

It's the parent genre that dubstep came out of in the late 90s early 00s

How fucking nu.ru

>>13843518

>he thinks shitty compressed audio encoded at high pitch sounds better than uncompressed FM Synth

But it does. At least in Genesis x SNES case, that is.

Genesis is no SC-55 that's for sure.

>>13843798

>limited to samples

>versatile

One SNES game could sound completely different from another thanks to the use of samples. Meanwhile every single piece of Genesis music sounded like it was being produced by the same extremely limited set of synth tones. Because they were. The YM2612 always sounded like a YM2612 but the S-SMP could sound like anything you wanted it to.

You literally don't even know what versatility means lel

>>13845141

Here just use this. Sounds better than anything the snes produced.

>>13845192

>The NES, SNES and N64 were far ahead of everything else at the time. As was the Gamecube but to a lesser extent.

I think you are missing the point. All of those systems have rather well known hardware flaws that shouldn't have made it in during the engineering process. The snes has ridiculous levels low level filtering on analog signals and later revisions remove or introduce their own issues with poor capacitance, and lately there's been widespread failure of the systems for no explained reason. The n64 was a constrained by budget limitations and bandwidth which requires programming to be synced between all processors to absurd levels and also has its own filtering issues. The nes too has fundamental issues with its cartridge slot and a degrading voltage regulator in the lock out chip used for anti-piracy thay causes false positives.

This isn't to say other systems haven't had issues, I'd be remiss to neglect NECs notoriously bad capacitor choices, but nintendo systems aren't as well engineered as they should be.

That being said a lot of the directions of nintendos hardware design didn't really give the best results. Many of the megadrives most impressive games have no additional hardware on board for processing. Some do, but lots of games get remarkable results with stock hardware. SNES' got its grunt from add on hardware in cartridges.

>>13845463

>Hey guys check this out

>It sounds like it's being produced by the same set of synth tones as every other Genesis song ever conceived

el oh el

The notes can change but the instrumentation never does. That's the YM2612 for you. Just enjoy your great Sega Genesis music and stop being butthurt that it's so acoustically limited.

>>13845498

The ym2612 is a great piece of hardware. Crisp sound and a wonderfully unique quality to its synthesis. Plenty of variety if you know where to look for it. The only claim to identity snes sound hardware has for itself is it sounds like tinny garbage and every game sounds the same.

>>13845507

>The ym2612 is a great piece of hardware. Crisp sound and a wonderfully unique quality to its synthesis. Plenty of variety if you know where to look for it

>variety

Nope. Variety is the one thing the YM2612 completely lacks. Even Genesis games that should sound completely fucking different from each other sound the same because they're using the same synth.

>The only claim to identity snes sound hardware has for itself is it sounds like tinny garbage

Come on anon, at least try listening to an actual SNES. Don't pretend you know what it sounds like, that's just gay.

>and every game sounds the same.

Absolute projection

>>13843705

In sonic 3's defense it actually was too huge for the one cartridge. It was too big in general really, could have done without Sandopolis.

Something most people here don't realize is that you can sample fm synthesis and use it on the SNES. Obviously having an actual fm synthesis chip is better, but the SNES can do just about everything the Genesis can soundwise. Personally though, I think the Genesis sounds a lot better then the SNES despite the fact that the YM2612 has a bug that mangles the sound a bit. In the end though, both sound chips have issues that reduce the quality of their sound. Although, in the hands of a good developer both systems can sound very good.

YM2151 sounds better than both of them though

>>13845976

I seem to remember watching a few videos with the Genesis, or CD, where if all the program had to do was make sound, it could make really good sounding music since you didn't have to use RAM to do anything else.

>>13845999 (checked)

>>13845938

>implying hipsters give a shit about fm synthesis

numale hipster faggots are more into nintendo shit since its the most entry level shit, specially ""snes style"" music because of earthbound.

>>13846019

There it is.

>>13846051

I must be hanging out with the right hipsters then, never would have thought people would come back to not-ironically liking FM synth.

>>13845999

Same goes for just about everything. The demoscene is a pretty good example of this. You can do a lot with these system if you can dedicate enough resources. For example, you can get pcm audio over the pc speaker if you dedicate enough cpu time to it. The pc speaker is a 1-bit buzzer that's either on or off. There's no volume, but it's possible to change the pitch. Full pcm audio with nothing but a speaker that can only play square waves. There's also stuff like Supernsf that allows you to play amiga .mods on the NES and the fact that it was possible to get sample playback on the C64. The problem with all of these is that they're way too cpu hungry to be used during gameplay. You might see them on a menu, but that's it.

>>13846051

Hipsters don't give a shit about fm synth since despite being leagues ahead of something like NES audio it's infinitely more complex. That's why many genesis developers used GEMS. Actually making your own fm synth patches is hard. Sampling can be done by anyone nowadays, but making your own fm synth instruments still has a high barrier to entry. There's also the fact that most hipsters are not RAD ENOUGH for the sega genesis and that fm synth has always been more popular in the east than the west. Why would they care about a type of music that they didn't grow up on, is hard to make, and isn't popular where they are?

>>13845141

The tone of the Megadrive remix was completely different.

>>13846118

>and the percussion is just so remarkably weak

Speaking of weak percussion...

>>13846193

But the percussion is just as weak in those two. I wouldn't call it rich by any stretch. I'm not saying they're bad as a whole, but to nitpick that particular element of the snes and then post that shit as an example of good percussion doesn't exactly help your case.

>>13846218

>>13846221

If your examples are anything to go by, it's equally prevalent on the MD.

>>13846227

>tinny, canned drums

Anon pls.

>>13846118

>It would sound horrendous.

I linked the exact thing I was talking about and it sounds okay. Even the DS can do it and it tends to sound like dog shit.

The real problem with the SNES isn't the limited room for samples either. The SNES actually forces all samples through a gauss filter which fucks with the quality, but keeps frequencies from getting too high or low.

You need to stop fellating the genesis and realize that the YM2612 is one of the weakest yamaha chips despite useful features like channel 3's special mode. I still like it, but it's not perfect by any means.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yamaha_YM2612

>The DAC in the YM2612 introduces a glitch in the negative edge of waveforms, shifting that side out of place, causing a distinctive form of distortion that becomes more pronounced as tones decay. This has become known among fans as the "ladder effect". Post-YM2612 sound filtering circuitry varied in degree and quality between devices using the YM2612, affecting the sound quality even further.

The YM2151 has a better and cleaner sound than the YM2612, anyways.

>>13846244

Listen to the whole first track rather than the first 10 seconds you faggot.

>>13846250

I skipped around and tried multiple tracks, but while it has rich bass, the actual drums are terrible.

>>13845976

What's your favorite branch? Mine's OPN with the YM2608, because it was all-in-one and Koshiro used it to work on the SOR's OSTs. Also, I think OPL is alright since it was a good start for me to compose FM Music.

>>13846246

Didn't some composers take advantage of that?

>>13846257

>it's just like, an opinion man

Anon here is a direct quote from you:

>It's flat, the bass is muddy, the instruments blend together in fuzzy disappointment and the percussion is just so remarkably weak.

Would you like to rephrase that, or are you going to continue to try and play the "w-well that's just your opinion!" card without holding yourself to the same standard?

>>13846297

Heh, wait, wait. Pointing out inconsistencies in what you're saying and what you're posting is "crying"? Is this really what you want to turn this thread into?

>>13846261

OPN is pretty cool, but I actually really like the sound of the OPL3. It got a bad rep thanks to midi, but it can pull off an impressive sound thanks to its combination of fm synth and wavetable synthesis. It's a shame it's largely ignored.

I want to learn MML and write some PC-9x tracks myself. I wish there was a tracker for it though

>>13846267

Channel 3's special mode or the distortion? I'm not entirely sure if the special mode was used much since it wasn't really documented. I'm sure the distortion was taken advantage of plenty since it's something you have to work around.

>>13846330

Glad you asked. See >>13846218

>>13846321

The distortion. Also, wasn't there a Speech Synthesis mode for the YM2612, but went undocumented.

I listen to some of Kulor's tracks before, someone should pick him up for composing.

>>13846337

I actually had no idea it had one. That's really cool.

I like kulor a lot and I wish I could get to the level he's at

>>13846266 (checked)

Here you go.

Also, it's VRC7(YM2413) with 2a03.

>>13846423

That's an opinion, not an argument :^)

>>13846356

Here's a video of the guy showing it work.If you want more information on this, just visit the website:

http://www.alyjameslab.com/alyjameslabfmdrive.html

Then, click on the manual he made.

>>13846447

Anon, that's not an argument.

>>13846484

Want more?

>>13843355

For a second I thought that was a vacuum cleaner.

>>13846459

Yeah I found that video when I searched it. I'm not paying twelve dollarydoos for that shit though.

>>13846588

I am not either, but he has a manual where he explains how it works. You can download the manual for free.

Tried DefleMask, before?

>>13844318

That, actually sounded like shit, was this video trying to prove something?

>>13846658

I've used it quite a bit actually.

>>13846118

>The sheer diversity of the YM2612 is just beautiful. So many different sounding games that have their own unqiue sonic identity

lel. Yeah anon, the thrilling diversity of a synth that can only produce music using the same limited set of noises. The YM2612 and S-SMP both have their own strengths and weaknesses. One is more programmable but has virtually no variety in its sound, while the other is less programmable but has incredible variety in its sound.

>>13844344

>not listening to 2 step garage

DID SOME MOTHERFUCKER JUST SAY SEGA GENESIS MUSIC THREAD?!?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ShmM6VKDR4M

>>13847317

You came pretty late.

>>13847317

>Not even embedding

=Weak.

>>13843512

Why not both midi and synth?

>>13847435

We already settled that there are weaknesses and strengths to these methods of producing sounds, and there are sound chips that do this (YM2608, YM2610, YMF292, etc.).

I don't have much skin in this game. Both systems sound good. They both definitely have different styles of music that each respectively are better at then one another though.

Here have some YM2151 music. The older but slightly more sophisticated and fully featured cousin of the YM2612.

Some more YM2151 pinball music.

>>13843725

Sounds like they recorded it from an emulator with audio filtering disabled.

>>13845498

>>13845693

I kind of feel like Synth and Midi aren't really comparable. when talking about the kinds of "sounds" you get from them.

>Synth is live instruments while the sampled midi obviously, isn't.

>You get a wider range of sounds from samples on the snes but can't quite get the accuracy from things a synth can excel at. (Guitars usually.)

I can get why people dislike Synth/genesis music compared to the snes. But often people seem to assume because it can't match it "range" of the SNES, "it all sounds the same." Which isn't really true.

>>13848116

>I can get why people dislike Synth/genesis music compared to the snes. But often people seem to assume because it can't match it "range" of the SNES, "it all sounds the same." Which isn't really true.

They're both fantastic sound chips but they're different, and faggots just have the attitude that "I like x, but y is different from x, therefore y must be terrible".

>>13848140

>>13848183

Case in point

+>>13843376

>I can image they would've been plagued with issues had it fell through. Maybe some things happen for a reason

Not really? If the fucking turbografx could have CDs in 1990 that still run fine today i don't see why nintendo couldn't.

>>13848623

>If the fucking turbografx could have CDs in 1990 that still run fine today

Except the console is notorious for having a piece that will fuck up over time and was irreplaceable until recently and even then the replacement is inferior and leads to noisier and less smooth playback.

>>13848183

Match the vibe of the music, not the notes. All I'm asking.

>>13849540

>Post X

>Here's X

>NO I WANT Y NOW

Why don't you just admit you're shitposting at this point since nothing satisfies you to stick with what you want

>>13844794

>>13848183

>That shit was post-launch you dumb nigger.

>unreleased products

>prototype controllers

>logo concepts

>post-launch

Alright.

>>13849581

You must have hearing difficulties if you don't see the difference between those tracks. SNES is light, airy, relaxing. The Megadrive remixes sound dark and imposing, or like dance music.

>>13849913

>product never launched in the first place

>product wasen't even finalized

>post launch

Alright.

>>13849717

>>13849934

It's pretty clear he means post SNES launch. Are you deliberately misunderstanding him?

>>13849940

>no context whatsoever

>obvious

I think you all are just after an argument, I'm just posting images.

>>13849966

Okay fine, I will bite. What does the SNES launch have to do with this? I don't think anyone is trying to argue that the PlayStation came out before the SNES but those images are all obviously pre-launch, with the exclusion of the 1 controller with the final logo. Are you making such a big deal about 1 out of the 10 images?

You people are insufferable, god forbid someone post images on an imageboard that are pertinent to the subject. What a waste of fucking time.

>>13849980

The Playstation didn't even enter engineering until after the SNES's own system design was complete. And bringing that prototype up in a discussion of shit that was actually released is off fucking topic.

>>13849980

You seriously need to improve your reading comprehension m8.

>>13849992

>people talking about it

>post images of it

>off topic

Alright.

>>13843403

Sounds like you hate fun smh tbh fam

>>13849858

Nigger how it "feels" that wasn't being discussed; you mentioned a day ago "what the Genesis would do" when trying to create music like DKC. I gave you examples, and you keep changing what you want. If it doesn't sound good to you, fine. But you kept moving goal posts, or you have reading comprehension as bad as the nigger who can't understand what "post-launch" means. Or both.

>>13852578

SNES music is pretty terrible, to be honest. It always sounds like fourth rate trumpet in a fucking huge chamber that keeps echoing. It's jarring as fuck.

>>13853200

>>13852578

Don't forget the same staccato bass sounds you hear most SNES games.

>>13845192

>The NES, SNES and N64 were far ahead of everything else at the time

That's objectively wrong. Nintendo's consoles have always been about using older technology to beat down production costs. NES was laughed the fuck out for its hardware, SNES was seen just a meager update to the NES compared to the Big Boys gaming devices and, the N64's only saving grace was its terrible stick… for a console that still used cartridges in an era where everyone else had already moved to CD format.

>>13853156

How it feels was the entire point. I never even said the Megadrive sounded bad. Only that it's more limited in the number of sounds it can create. You're so upset that someone might suggest your childhood love isn't the best at everything that you aren't even listening.

>>13847039

Why is the Playstation logo so damn comfy?

>>13854590

>How it feels was the entire point

No, it wasn't:

>>13844165

>What do you do when the game calls for a track like this?

And I tried to provide examples as you shifted goal posts.

>You're so upset that someone might suggest your childhood love isn't the best at everything

Nice projection faggot. Just admit you're a disingenuous nigger.

>>13854728

The entire point of music is to evoke an emotion. I didn't think I should need to explain this. Stop being music autistic.

fm synthesis can do things other than guitars

if you actually believe that the only instrument you can make is a guitar, you might be clinically retarded

>>13854783

>>13854768

You literally don't understand what music is for. All you see is the notes. You have autism.

>>13854789

You literally cannot argue to prove a point, all you you do is beg for shit and change your demands.

>All you see is the notes

Pretty sure seeing notes means someone is musically inclined.

>You have autism.

Constantly missing the point of what someone says is a sign of autism. Please see your doctor.

>>13854801

I'm genuinely kind of shocked that you don't get this. Do you feel nothing when you hear that DKC track? Is it just a series of bleeps and bloops to you?

>>13854847

I didn't dislike the music, and nor do I dislike the Megadrive. The point is it evokes a different emotion. I feel like I'm talking to Commander Data here. I don't think I have any way of getting through to you. You seem to lack basic human emotional responses.

>>13854865

>The point is it evokes a different emotion.

Ok whatever, that's not what you wanted 24 hours ago.

>I feel like I'm talking to Commander Data here

And I feel like I'm talking to nigger Jim here.

>I don't think I have any way of getting through to you.

>he said as the original argument was restated to him over and over and over while while changing what he asked for

>You seem to lack basic human emotional responses.

You seem to lack the ability to fucking read.

>>13854894

>So from gentle and atmospheric, to something that sounds like the soundtrack to Terminator.

I think I made it pretty clear what I was asking for. Not that I should need to. If I ask for something similar to the them to Halloween, most people would correctly assume I wanted spooky music. I feel like you would present me with the same song played on a banjo.

>>13854911

>I think I made it pretty clear what I was asking for. And I tried providing that. You didn't take to it. Fine, whatever. Just quit the pretentious pseudo-intellectual emotional bullshit like that has any bearing on the argument of "what the Genesis would with music like DKC".

>>13848183

>OH GOD YES I'M SUCH A LITTLE ATTENTION SLUT WATCH ME REPLY TO EVERYONE

>BUKKAKE ME IN YOUR THICK SMELLY (YOU)s

For all you Sega fanboys, David Wise done the music for Genesis Snake Rattle 'N' Roll and Genesis Battletoads & Double Dragon, and I liked that.

>>13854904

probably because it's a video game console not a faggy jrpg box like the snes

>>13843765

what are you smoking? castlevania games before 4 were on the nes and they "sounded like a castlevania game". they also made an arcade games that used FM and it "sounded like a castlevania game". what are you implying with "it sounds like a megadrive game" castlevania bloodline is one of the better soundtrack one the genesis and one of the best castlevania ost

>>13844224

Why is this chart upside down

>>13846414

I really enjoyed that. That was nice.

It kind of makes me wonder though of what FM Synth music would sound like if it was used to make music belonging to more modern genres. I felt there was some House here but I don't think House is popular anymore. I mean, I still like it but nonetheless, I think it stopped being mainstream with the end of the '90s.

>>13848729

Which>>13848729

>Except the console is notorious for having a piece that will fuck up over time and was irreplaceable until recently and even then the replacement is inferior and leads to noisier and less smooth playback.

Fuck I just ordered a turbografx from ebay.

Which piece exactly gets broke over time?

Does this happen to the Duo units or the separate CD attachment or both?

>>13854904

>>13862390

>Which piece exactly gets broke over time?

A small plastic gear inside the drive, don't ask me why but the only way to get one of those fuckers until 3D printing was affordable was scavenging it from another unit, they're still really fucking expensive for what they are (5-15 bucks) but that's not that bad

There are other ways to fix the issue iirc but not quite as simple as just getting the part.

>Does this happen to the Duo units or the separate CD attachment or both?

Not a problem on the Duo

>>13846414

It's going to be Coffee Zone by FearOfDark.

>>13863401

It wasn't! You surprised me.

>>13863403

>>13861296

Thanks, anons. That track was supposed to be part of an album I'm releasing by next summer.

>>13848266

When I compose FM Music, I was really surprised with the capabilities it could do even if it has two operators to create an instrument. I've done rock, house, jazz, waltzes, and more with the VRC7 chip. I think House became niche again since the EDM became mainstream.

It's a shame, because I was extremely late to the movement, but I love Underground Resistance's Music to death.

>>13863445

oh god help i've already listened to your song 5 times

>>13863499

I think the song would fit perfectly for a classic beat'em up or shoot'em up title. What do you think? I originally was doing these songs for a friend's video game, but it didn't came through so now I am doing it as a hobby.

>>13863521

YES

i tried making music once using adlib tracker 2 but the interface looked like a bomb defusal kit

>>13863540

I tried, too. I think it is best if that program was used on the original hardware with DOS.

I'm trying to work up to 4 operators with the YM2612 or YM2151 via DefleMask, so far I am still trying to figure out the mathematics behind it with the algorithms and ADSR. If all else fails, I can still rely on FamiTracker to compose on the VRC7 with 2 operators.

>>13863561

i have a pentium pro machine with an awe64 but the cd drive is dead

>>13863581

I don't know about that, but hopefully you find another capable computer or repair that one. Although, I think that machine is capable enough to run DefleMask and/or FamiTracker(vanilla or OCC).

Have those installed? If so, how's composing on one, the other, or both?

There's another tracker by the same guy who did OCC-FamiTracker called SnevenTracker. It's basically FamiTracker, but it emulates the SMS's soundchip(TI-SN76489). Hopefully, he adds YM2612 support with it. The UI on FamiTracker is way better than DefleMask's. That tracker should also be capable to run on your machine, too.

>>13863612

i have actual decent computers to "do like normal computer things" so i could probably run either.

but messing with real hardware fm synths is pretty cool.

(and also, it has winnt4 on another partition with actual network drivers, so i could maybe download what i need.)

>>13863628

Well, good luck with that.