b26f46 No.13828579
Fighting games are likely the only non shit form of competitive gaming there is right now. Is there any way to uncuck "esports" or at the very least raise them to standards of normal sports, after all both are enjoyed by mainly normalfags and yet Esports is so much worse.
For example, you don't hear of Football "dumbing down" the sport so fat fucks and idiots can have an easier time playing it and yet Esports is filled with the most casual shit games.
82d869 No.13828600
>>13828579
RTS was alright until it became a Worst Korean APM circlejerk.
69ed78 No.13828606
>>13828579
>fighting games are likely the only non shit form of competitive gaming there is right now
de8484 No.13828611
>>13828579
>For example, you don't hear of Football "dumbing down" the sport so fat fucks and idiots can have an easier time playing it
>Roughing the quarterback meme
>Pass interference being redefined every season to make passing plays easier
b26f46 No.13828612
>>13828600
Yeah but it's unlikely RTS will never be unfucked thanks to Gook click ruining the genre. I hope Spellforce 3 turns out to be good though.
716161 No.13828676
For "esports" you have:
>gookclickers
Will never be good again.
>fighting games
A literal nigger genre.
>assfaggots
Was never good in the first place.
>arena fps
Probably the best contender but sadly dead.
>shmups
My personal favorite.
d5a076 No.13828695
>>13828676
>shmups
>esports
playing for points doesn't count as an esport.
05d7c6 No.13828698
>>13828606
>fightingcucks really believe this
They wake up everyday and trick themselves into thinking their genre isn't dead. It is very sad tbh
b26f46 No.13828700
>>13828676
>>13828606
>I-I could totally be good at fighting games I just don't try
>It's a nigger genre any ways!
Kek.
05d7c6 No.13828701
>>13828695
but real sports play for points
b26f46 No.13828705
>>13828698
>Genre with dozens of new games a year
>IT'S DEAD GUYS
36b979 No.13828707
>>13828695
>points
>he doesn't know about twinkle star sprites
kill yourself casual, probably thinks rts and fps games are good competitive games
d5a076 No.13828709
>>13828701
Okay, I mean playing against the computer and then comparing points doesn't count, it has to be player v player to count.
11d7e8 No.13828727
>>13828705
According to nu/v/, failing to meet wildly optimistic sales projections = ded.
fd36ab No.13828802
>>13828705
We're talking about the industry that displaced hollywood for "I'm gay, bald, have no talent and want to be rich"
d235b4 No.13828818
>Fighting games are likely the only non shit form of competitive gaming there is right now.
>the community that's known for gutting their games and banning 90% of content because muh balance
>non shit
fd36ab No.13828856
>>13828818
If anything they have quality standards.
Except for the part where they go and buy those shitty games anyway.
The games industry needs to take example from sonic autists who staple pieces of paper to street poles telling people not to buy the newest shitty sonic game.
6d6282 No.13828863
Games get casualized to increase sales.
The best we can hope for is that games start having seperate "competative" and "casual" control schemes and game modes so that jew executives can have their mass appeal and cult appeal too.
Guilty Gear did a good job of this with their "stylish" vs "regular" control styles, as did p4 arena with their "mash a single button to do a sick ass combo at the expense of your meter." It really helped teach me sick ass combos in a way similar to rock smith.
TLDR: Tutorials built into playstyles and seperate areas for casuals and competatives will save competative gaming. We have to bridge the gap.
b905a2 No.13828888
>>13828700
Its literally filled with niggers. Go look at a pic from a competition. It looks like a blm protest. I can only imagine the smell.
296635 No.13828930
>>13828818
OP is probably a literal nigger, The only shit that could be called competitive would be Q3 and BW and one is dead and the other created "e-sport" becaquse gooks sucks so much at sport that had to create one., atleast the chinks had the decency of usurping jokes of sports like tabletop tennis and badminton instead of makign video gaming the national sport of their country
65b625 No.13828945
>>13828676
Fighting games are for every race except white people who don't have the reaction time or social skills for fighting games. It's why they don't have arcaded too.
65b625 No.13828954
>>13828888
Its also filled with asains are well. You are so pathetic its sad. Stay mad though.
296635 No.13828956
>>13828945
You mean nips and niggers, And remember nigger the only reason nips have an arcade and fg culture is because using a pc for gaming is looked down upon and shamed by their society.
5021dd No.13828959
>>13828676
>fighting games
>A literal nigger genre
Except only Asians win on everything relevant that isn't made by NRS.
>Shmups
>Competitive game
Wew lad.
65b625 No.13828961
>>13828930
Fighting Games are much more competive you numale.
65b625 No.13828970
>>13828818
>getting fighting games and smash mixed up
Are we getting invaded by half chan again?
296635 No.13828971
>>13828961
They are not nigger, the execution level is subpar and requires infinitely less intelligence,multitasking and reactions compared to Q3 or bw, is why you see faggots able to play those easy "competitive" fighting games until their late 20s or early 30s while every single q3 player or bw quickly decline after hitting their mid 20s
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6d6282 No.13828995
>>13828930
>"I cant play fighting games because I got beat up by a nigger once" the post
You aren't the "master race" if you refuse to test yourself, untermensch.
a9fbc3 No.13829029
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Theres the mlp fighting is magic game. Too bad it was canceled.
Rainbow Dash's theme was also pretty kickass.
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b26f46 No.13829189
>>13828971
Or because the genre died. But no go ahead and tell me that Star craft takes more execution than 3rd Strike.
Casuals should just admit that they are casual instead of making up this pathetic bullshit.
85ee01 No.13829978
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>>13829029
Oh shit, that project had some kickass music.
64ae57 No.13829993
Quake is the only truly balanced game. Every character moves at the same speed with the same hitbox. Everyone spawns an equal distance from something useful enough to get them the lead and from the word "fight" its all skill. Not just aim but soundwhoring, map knowledge and mindgames.
d43a53 No.13830003
>>13828956
But that's wrong.
926aec No.13830034
>>13829993
>Everyone spawns an equal distance from something useful enough to get them the lead
64ae57 No.13830042
>>13830034
So you don't play it. gotcha.
926aec No.13830066
>>13830042
I've had enough duels on aerowalk where initial spawns have put me in a much better position to get stack than the other guy and just generally start me off stronger at the beginning to know that it isn't completely the case.
Will the match overall be decided by who's the better player? Sure, for the most part that's the case. But there are definitely at the very least slight differences in how advantageous your spawn is at the beginning, which is at least something. And that's to say nothing of spawnfragging, too.
94f755 No.13830112
>>13828676
What's it honestly going to take to make afps relevant again?
64ae57 No.13830132
>>13830066
well that shut me up. kind of. I still maintain it to be far more balanced than anything else itt
b816ce No.13830390
>or at the very least raise them to standards of normal sports
yeah I love worshiping niggers
fuck off
841fd2 No.13830474
>Competitive gaming
People shouldn't take videogames seriously to the point of money-based competitions.
94f755 No.13830504
>>13830474
That autist who goes on about making a game specifically designed to troll speedrunners was doing it all wrong. This is all you need to drive people to insanity, it's genius.
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841fd2 No.13830547
>>13830513
Game is called Getting Over It.
b565ed No.13830550
>>13828818
>the community that's known for gutting their games and banning 90% of content because muh balance
Except that never happened, you retarded fuckwit.
500ae3 No.13830582
>>13828611
Don't forget that the NFL is literally killing their players so they can make more money. The guy who got arrested for murder and killed himself in his prison cell had the worst CTE the medical examiners had ever seen, worse than retired career football players. Team doctors have also been rather fast-and-loose with medications, actively prioritizing getting players back on the field over their health.
>>13830474
>wasted 12 hours
>he couldn't get over it
e7a632 No.13830601
I like competitive Puyo Puyo.
43ac1a No.13830618
>>13828709
Sure it does. The computer is comparable to any single sports event like tripple-jump, where the sportsman's execution is all that counts under given rules.
eSports is a cancer though, ruining vidya.
fb2d93 No.13830620
>>13830547
I appreciate you telling me the name, but you probably shouldn't have. I would have probably been better of not knowing about another streamer bait game.
013e35 No.13830653
>>13830112
The only company that gives a shit about AFPS (id software) is run by a bunch of clowns who are running any chances of success into the ground.
To make it relevant again you would need competent developers with a lot of backing who don't compromise on the game mechanics. In other words, nobody.
43ac1a No.13830667
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>>13829993
>Quake is the only truly balanced game.
3f0d03 No.13830683
>>13828579
>Esports is filled with the most casual shit games
>Dota is still top of the charts for pro e-sports tournament money
>Dota
>casual game
08cb64 No.13830708
>>13828612
AoE2 has recently started rebuilding its community. The Definitive Edition is coming out soon, and AoE4 next year. That might be good enough to save the genre.
296635 No.13831272
>>13829189
It takes more execution you strawmanning nigger, any monkey can have clean inputs on any fighting game after enough practice
and that including 3rd strike, please tell me again how hard is to do down parry when it's all about timing.
>>13828995
>Argues like a nigger because he cant refute the point
You are playing the right genre you doublenigger
>>13830003
Yeah you are right i forgot that wetbacks national sport is KOF
6a725b No.13831309
>>13830683
post 7.00 dota is fucking casual
icefrog is pig
sage
571d62 No.13832309
>>13829978
I want to beat Twilight with a pipe and rape her.
3bd630 No.13833529
>>13828579
The biggest problem with e-sports outside of it being just shit is the fact that the players don't give a shit about the actual games. They'll play anything as long as they're getting paid for it.
6e90c0 No.13834421
>>13830601
I do love competitive fighting but competitive Puyo or Tetris is always worth watching. Catherine, as silly as it is, is also hilarious. I wish someone made a whole game based around that multiplayer with online play.
>>13833529
I find tourneys way more fun when they're not tied to e-sports. AnimeEVO can get away with much crazier commentary and games because it's not held on the standard as the main stage games. For this reason, AnimEVO is way more fun to watch while also having a larger variety of games like Catherine, Puyo, Gundam, and various anime fighters.
0c3d33 No.13834454
>>13828954
>It's also full of the people who ruined the RTS genre
lol
e28ee6 No.13836632
>>13828579
E-sports? I just wanna have fun
7247f0 No.13836645
>>13828579
>Fighting games are likely the only non shit
It's sad that you believe that.
8f7dc0 No.13837307
>>13831309
Yeah, he really dumbed the game down by replacing the generic "+2 to all stats" that every hero had with 800+ new passives (8 per hero) where you have to actually make decisions.
Just because something changed doesn't mean that you should turn your brain off and complain.
Sage.
8f7dc0 No.13837312
>>13833529
>They'll play anything as long as they're getting paid for it.
I don't think there are many players that have been successful in more than one game unless you count sequels and the hand full of Starcraft autists that went to play poker.
afb8c9 No.13837329
>>13828579
>Buying into esports meme in the very first place
Dang, I miss the times where people would only play games for fun or small-time competition, not prize money.
48e8b3 No.13839331
>>13830653
>id software
They haven't made an arena game in years though
841fd2 No.13841810
>>13830620
It's always fun watching meltdowns.
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c3691a No.13846582
>>13830112
I still believe a game can organically grow with word of mouth and a dedicated community, but afps suffers so much misconceptions and subsequent salt.
For example
>>13811089
People who think their aim (with a sniper) is better means they should win, might as well say they should've won in an RTS when their APM or whatever is higher, or that they did one particular thing really well while being shit at everything else.